Its just a shame that the gaming community as a whole is plagued with these cheaters who just ruin everyone else's experience. And the worst part is that there's pretty much no solution to the issue. Game devs can upgrade their ant-cheat system and ban as many hackers as they want, but there's always a small group of players who still cheat.
I make scripts and get paid for it. You do realize that even if they have a good anti cheat it will eventually get bypassed by people like me. So when they update after a week or so. So it’s almost impossible for them to completely stop cheating as a whole.
i like how you are blaming the hackers without mentioning that roblox has no anti cheat, i mean it does have one but its so bad a 2 year old baby could bypass it without spending a cent, and on top of that roblox dosent ban exploiters so there arent any consequences for cheating
@@jaythehooper8130 but why you create scripts for games instead of creating something by your own, like a game or idk. It's becouse off guys like you that most of the games are falling apart becouse of the scripts.
This video says exactly what I have been saying for months, there are so many people who use cheats like silent aim, esp, hitbox extender and such, yet very rarely do they get kicked because the average player just does not know what it looks like to use them. I could not be happier to have confirmation that I am not the only one who has noticed this, especially because these people not getting kicked has killed a lot of the enjoyment from the game because of how common they seemingly are. It feels as though every few rounds there's someone using one of the aforementioned exploits, and it's really annoying how people will even defend them.
at the end he says that there are rank 300 out there hacking, I played with a lot of 300's and I call some out for hacking (I don't have chat on so I talk to my self).
I was in lobby with a person using trigger bot and silent aim and I noticed so I started a vote kick then everyone else was just saying “they’re just good stop being mad” The average player really doesn’t know how to tell hacks so that makes it harder to kick a cheater.
From someone who used to be a lowlife hacker, i have a few things to say. For one, we call them "Closet cheaters" and are generally looked down upon. Although the anti cheat isn't great player reports like that of yours in the form of the video usually cause action. (That's how all of my accounts were banned in the past.) Thank you so much for making this video, exposing lowlives, explaining cheats, (and how to spot them), and of course, keeping it cool. Not being a mean person about it.
@@gyrotechnics9766 Ok, so usually there's not much that makes you looked up on, but usually things like using server side exploits on stupid games to do cool things (like, what citizen does), and obvious cheating doesn't make you looked up upon exactly, but being a closet cheater isn't cool. Using scripts overall to get better at games isn't usually looked up on. In some scenarios it doesn't matter but in most you are looked down upon if you are closet cheating.
ESPECIALLY those who try to deny everything, those who don't hold themselves accountable for their actions. Being obvious cheaters isn't exactly looked UP upon but its not as looked down upon as closet cheating/being a script kiddie is. Only exception is if you make your own cheats. Even then, still lame.
@@ViatorsPath Yeah as also a ex lowlife hacker lol, I agree with what you say here, of course I do sometimes want to go back and cheat but a while ago I realised that cheating is technically pointless and ruins the game for many people. I have been banned my fair share. I like typical modders and citizen though even though some people might hate me for it I think their videos are actually somewhat entertaining. Haven't watched them in a while either. Serverside doesn't necessarily make you a "Bad hacker" however.
i agree that there is an overload of hackers recently and it really does suck that there aren’t enough people to properly deal with this. imo i feel like there should be a trusted group (arranged by stylis) who have rank 0 accounts w mod perms and there only purpose is to go around different lobbies and find hackers. Or there should be a hacker report server where people can say there’s a hacker in and more can join this person to get them banned. i feel like there should be more dedication to banning hackers tho
i feed like if they Implemed this it would have to be an AI that does not show on scoreboard because if there is a group of people doing the moderation you might have to be worried about one of them becoming a hacker/cheater and if that becomes a reality, they could hard kick people who sus them out of there hide hole
This is really informative. I've accused hackers in Phantom Forces very recently and the one thing I hate with the community is when someone is obviously hacking and they don't vote kick them. They just let the hacker rampage on the server. I thought high rank players had a responsibility to spot and call out these hackers but they simply ignore and just keep on sweating like hell and don't even care that his/her teammates/enemies are having discomfort with these hackers. We all just wanna play our game fairly, lads. No need to ruin someone's day.
@@toastplud clearly you don't understand my statement. You should read it again and understand what I've said. If you still can't understand then that's your problem.
At 3:42, I'm pretty sure a fitting term for what they are doing is called Projecting the blame, where they call someone out of something they are doing themselves as a way to get heat off of their back.
The amount of work that went into this video is insane, great video Snowy! Also, I really appreciate that you made this video, maybe it'll help people who are less familiar with hackers to learn how to identify them
This is actually really helpful information, earlier today I was playing and someone was silent aiming, I had no clue what silent aiming was and thought he was lagging lol
The other time I ran into one, it went through walls and every time my character respawned, the hacker already knew where I was. I had too many encounters with too many that's why I didn't want to play anymore. but on the other hand , i loved seeing you snowy again !
An strategy I usually do when I identify a hacker is to initiate the votekick immediately. There's a higher chance to get votekicked if it is initated suddenly and without accusing someone from hacking beforehand. If the votekick fails, I start tbagging every time I kill them, until they get mad and start using stronger but more obvious hacks. I call this strategy "annoy them to death"
I hope a lot of people see this video, it can be difficult to explain to someone in chat what silent aim is and how it works, I feel like you explained it very well. It's amazing how many people don't even realize it's a thing.
As someone who as used exploits in pf, the reason we hack is to try to see how much reaction we get out of the community. Or testing our hacks like: animation skipping (making bfg no recoil and automatic) aim bot/silent, and esp. and wallbang.
i hope this reaches out to more people men i always point our such things and some people still cant see it and then i find a poor victim believing a closet cheater and they say, “they’re just good”
I’m a rank 125 and whenever I attempt to kick a hacker people say that I’m mad because I’m a high rank kicking a low rank player and the vote kick never gets through. It really annoys me because they are not able to identify people cheating if they are not doing it blatantly. Hopefully people will see this video and will be able to identify these things now.
a friend of mine designed a bot for brazilian servers on PF, it analyses gameplay and when it finds a cheater, the bot will target them and will votekick poll them until they're kicked, sadly it can just protect one server at a time
thank you for making this video, i learned new things about different hacks, and it's crazy to see how many people in games will still not want to kick a hacker, no matter how blatant they are
The quality and the amount of work put into these videos have improved so much, keep up the great content! I feel like there were some cheats that you had missed out on which were important to address such as certain ammo exploits, which you might see in snipers and shotguns etc. But all in all video was great.
A tactic I've noticed is for hackers to play really normal. I usually catch them for just weird plays and try to vk them. It usually doesn't go through, and the second it doesn't, the guy turns his hacks on all the way and we can't kick him for the remainder of the cooldown. Also ran into one with so many other alts on the server we couldn't get enough votes. Also another thing. If a player has no movement, but stupid good aim, they're probably hacking too.
When I feel like someone is cheating or has really unnatural aim, I wait till a match where I’m not teamed with them before using team chat to ask if others feel the same way. If they do, then I say to wait for next round to be teamed up with them before spectating said player for the entire match with squad spawn. If we confirm it, we tell global chat and hopefully vk them.
yes stylis need to do something about the cheating sistuation, its gone bad since after the april fools update, the amount of cheater i encounter to is way more then last year and the bad thing is people seems not be able to recognise they are cheating and when the vk gone off, it just doesnt works, i think stylis really needs to take some action instead of adding new guns into the game. Welp, thats my thought on the current state of the game, if anyone have any other idea, feel free to correct me
Nice video. This is the reason I stopped playing Phantom Forces. I just tried it again after a couple of years, and it instantly feels worse than ever. I really wish this whole issue could be fixed permanently
Back in the days there were once exploiters and hackers who would fight others of their own kind in the name of bringing justice to those who take advantage of us regular players. Sadly not many of these great men and women exist anymore ether due to being banned, stopped playing the game, afraid of getting banned, or fell over to the other side.
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you very much specially to you @snowy for making this video about this investigation and explaining to us what different types of cheating or hacking there are as well as explaining to the public or us what kind of situations or details we have to lookout for when identifying a player, as a person that has been playing phantom forces for a long time I really really appreciate that you’ve done this video for people to know how to determine or acknowledge when someone is hacking, I think for many of us we have been waiting for this types of videos on how to properly identify hackers based on the accurate name of the hacks they’re using. As a suggestion could you make more of this types of educational videos for phantom forces I would really love to know more, but of course keep up the Great Work and do it with time not burning yourself out. A lot of thanks for explaining really good in this video.
whats even worse is that i have noticed in some low rank lobbies, the players are actually voting no towards kicking a hacker, which is so annoying. Anyways, this video helped me learn more types of hacking and how to identify them, nice vid snowy
I find it funny how when you look up Phantom Forces on YT now, the SECOND AND THIRD results are usually "scripts" and "pastebin"... I'm so glad you made this video Snowy. Keep up the good work! I'm so glad you made this video Snowy. I hope you keep making more stuff like this to create conversation within the community-or at least what's left of it.
Finally, someone in the PF community acknowledging and explaining the hacker problem for PF. I've also noticed much more hackers in the game, which has just drivin me more and more away. They have to fix the Vote kick system at the very least.
I completely agree with you bro. Phantom Forces is being really destroyed now a days by these kind of people. I also feel like some Higher ranks are doing this as-well. Why would they be doing this? Well it’s obvious, they won’t get caught because they are well… a high rank. I don’t really play Phantom Forces much now all because of these crazy events happening in the game. Even if most people honestly probably don’t care about this I would keep an eye on any person and any player they see; even if they are a high rank don’t expect them to not being cheating, like Snowy said, some high ranks will cheat and not get caught, this needs to be told out to other players also if you are reading this Snowy I have been going through the same exact thing recently. Edit: sorry for the long sentence but this needs to get out to others playing PF
This is how I found snowy, I am instantly a fan. I've played this game since it went free to play after alpha, the cheaters are more common than you think.
Finally someone who is getting serious in the hacking situation. I appreciate you Snowy, really. You're godly who taking a step forward unlike other youtubers who only talk trash about it and make fun of it. Thank you snowy.
@@toastpludDude, do you literally just go around making the same exact reply on dozens of other people's comments? Wow, you have even less of a life than the rank 300s in this game.
Snowy thank you so much for creating this video. You helped me understand how to undercover cheater. Now 2~ cheaters get banned bc i reported this cheaters. Big thanks
as a past exploiter on pf this is kind of accurate but from my expirence if you just use silent aim with it is not too obvious and you can easily get by, also extended hithoxes do exist but I haven’t heard of a script that lets you individually edit each limb hatbox size. Also with aimbot you can make it so when your crosshair moves to a player it will do it slower/smoother to make it seem legit. Also the anti cheat was horrible, the only thing stopping a hacker is the votekick system.
Why did you stop exploiting, the reason I asked this question is that to see what are the reasons people may stop hacking or cheating after a long enough time
This happens more often in almost every game now. I notice some players would defend those who would hack/insult others without having any prior knowledge about what went down or what took place. Just today after playing a hide & seek game, I had a player harassing me by following me & when I was able to get away from them i decided to get back at them by telling them where did they go, why did they stop chasing me, & to try to catch me. Then outta nowhere some random girl said in the chat, " stop forcing them to chase you." This is just the very tip of it. I have & will probably continue to experience interactions like these.
Hi there, a former exploiter here. Me and my friends mostly used exploits to get to top tier level stuff faster, so we wont have to grind 500 hours to get something we wanted, because we could get it in 5. Some pepole might critiscise me and my friends for not playing the game fair, and thats true, and i agree with your oppinion, but let me ask you this: if you could shorten the grind for that sweet gun/item you want by 95% with little to no drawbacks, would you do it? And dont tell me pepole ruin the fun in games (its kinda true but still) as most pepole i know who actually use the exploits/cheats are actually quite chill and just want to save time, mess around or just chill as the coolest dude on the server that gives free stuff to pepole. i remember playing a game that was very very popular back then, and i used exploits to give me 2.5 bilion credits, but scince i didnt even know what to do with them i just gave everyone free items, cash and other fun stuff. There are alot of bad exploiters, cheaters and other pepole like that wich set a stereotype for preety much all of us, wich i think is unfair. As i said before, a big portion of exploiters and cheaters just want to have fun, and skip most of the grind. i hope this clears up things a bit. Cya!
With such an amount of very hard to-detect cheaters on Roblox, any "competitive scene" on the platform is just ruined as anyone could be running an ESP/silent aim cheat and get away with it.
The only people who get caught cheating in PF are the people who aren't smart with them. I made an alt and tried out some scripts. The only times where I've been called out for cheating on my alt was when I was walling. This makes sense because it's hard to die when you always know where an enemy is and overall its hard to be subtle with it. When I'm running around with no spread, no recoil, and instant reload on, no one bats an eye. I still have to aim and I can still be caught off guard and die because I had walls turned off. With silent aim on, a circle pops up where your crosshair is, whatever enemy is in that circle will get hit. Situations like 2:30 only happen if the circle was made too large and the visibility check was turned off. The visibility check makes it so that the silent aim only works when an enemy is actually visible and not behind any cover. You can still wallbang people, you just have to actually aim at them. Silent aim was also something else that I was never called out on since the aimbot circle was small enough where I needed a small bit of effort to actually land shots. I also had my headshot percentage with it hover around 15-20 percent. An extra measure that I took to not get caught was to purposefully die and keep my KD in an acceptable range if I was going too hot with my scripts. The whole point of the alt was to try and get the alt up to a decent rank, around 70 or 80 and see how much I can get away with before I get banned. If I bought some rank 250 account and started mowing down lobbies with cheats I doubt I would ever be called out unless I was doing some stupid blatant stuff.
I only just got back to the game after a few month break from playing and I can confidently say that it seems way better than it was back at the start of the year. I've been back to playing for about a week now and I haven't run into nearly as many hackers. Just hoping it will stay that way; keep doing the lord's work Snowy! On a side note: It's really disappointing that there are people who think this stuff is funny, who defend hackers, and who abuse the votekick system simply because they want to use it to get revenge on people they don't like. I really hope that it gets better, even though I know it probably won't, its never bad to hold out some hope that the trolls in the community would wisen up and try to have a fair round for once. And yes, it is just a game, but for those of us who have been playing this game for six or seven years, a lot of us grew up playing it and we want others to be able to enjoy it like we did.
This actually helps as I do wonder how the hell 70% of the time do people kill me as I am a rank 130 and very experienced and yet a rank 30 guy some how kills me and the rest of my team when I'm with them so... Yezs thanks for the help of analysing hackers better
From my experience it’s a lucky game if there is even one cheater, had matches with two or three a lot lately. People getting only headshots 95% of the time and no one cares.
Thank you for making this video, it really educated me a lot about spotting cheaters. :) And it would be really nice if Stylis made a tutorial in the main game to guide players how to spot cheaters, anyways have a good day Snowy.
good video man. i feel like so many legit cheaters go unchecked because they still cant preform above a 5 kd even with cheats. hopefully this vid opens up people's eyes
this is also an issue on roblox's end. Roblox should hardware / IP ban people who are banned for cheating. They should also bring back the old account making system of having to put in an email so making alt accounts will be a bit harder to do
Roblox already doesn’t ban hackers, for Roblox a lot of kids play so a hardware or ip ban could do a lot of damage, also Roblox can’t even detect some executors so you could be hacking and Roblox couldn’t tell.
There is hope though, from my experience playing arsenal, Bad Business, and PF... You can mass report a hackers account through the official roblox repoting system and 8 times out of 10 they'll get temporarily banned or even some cases terminated.
this is sad and one of the reasons i do not play much anymore, when you try kick a high rank for obvious hacks, people just say "oh he's just a good player" and other things like that, Great video tho
Not as annoyed as the low ranks who watched too many Spirals videos just to say "They're just good." These individuals annoy me more than the cheaters.
excellent job explaining everything in the vid, people really need to learn the different types of cheats and learn what they look like/function. (not bc i get false votekicked 98% of my games)
ty for this video ive found so many cheaters but no one wants to kick them bc they cant tell whether or not they are cheating and these can be subtle to the untrained eye.
I really love PF recently, people flying around going like 500/0 very very obviously using aimbot, flyhack and whatever else its all called but the server just doesnt kick them
Coming from cheating experience in other games, having esp definitely makes it easy to see closet cheaters. With esp you can see if theyre pausing or engaging at the perfect moments, scoping in right when they need to, hiding in corners when they know people are coming. Definitely makes it easier for them to find other potential cheaters and get them removed in order to save themselves.
I'm gonna help you here, theres some information in the video that you would really need to know how to hack and the types of scripts people use to know (yes i have experience with hacking but no i dont hack). Hackers basically use 'executors' that attach to the game once it is opened and they use these executors to run scripts. Higher qaulity scripts hackers use tend to have setting where you can change how amplified the effects of the hack are. For example, you can change the radius of your silent aim, as you said, but you can also change the speed that the aim switches from player to player. You can also change the the size of hitboxes when using extended hitboxes. You can even change the percentage chance that each shot you take is a headshot, limb shot, or torso shot. Experienced hackers usually used settings that are just believable where it seem passable that the person is simply a high skill player. This is why so many hackers can go completely undetected, however, as of recently many hackers have been struggling due to roblox's updates in anti cheat software. Yes i know im late to the video but im just spreading some infoirmation.
This video helps me A LOT cause I got kicked at rank 234 -_- for being sus and since you made this video now I should look at death cams and look to see if they are hacking this video helps me alot thx 😀
Basically they are called closet cheaters or just legit cheats. They use silent aim which is just a circle you can make it small or big. 2:43 Like snowy said there is a stud limit on how far your silent aim notices people. You can add Wallbang, Hitchance, Color of the Circle, Make the circle invisible OR they use just plain old aimlock but its smooth so it looks like they just have really good tracing. Most of the time they use ESP which lets you see throw walls. Ive seen a lot of high ranked cheaters no higher than 300 though. They are so much more easier to kill than blatant cheaters. A blatant cheater normally autokills everyone with wallbang and spinbot+C Frame (Speed) and they dont care if they get votekicked because they have auto join. So basically auto join activates when you get votekicked and it forces you into a new server or into the same server. Snowy explained it better than i did but i just wanted to cut what he said down into typing
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSS someone that understands that you can be a hackr with a low kd its so annoying when theyre like "his kd isnt even that good. Are you trying to false vk?"
I really enjoyed this video, very interesting and i would love to see you make another one like this one. Im currently rank 107 in game and i’ve gained some experience that im now able to spot hackers earlier than most people in a lobby sometimes, which can be unfortunate because votekicking early can lead to non kick from other because they didn’t have time to see what’s going on and i most of the time waste my votekick and enable the countdown, allowing the hacker to go crazy for a minute and waste people experience Im watching this video late but if you read this comment, thank you and please i would like to see another investigation like this one, really loved it.
It’s so annoying when the other team just acknowledges it and doesn’t care pf is truley in a horrible state with cheaters they really don’t care I saw a dude with a auto BFG just going ham like the bfg was a damn ak and it took 3 tries to get him out
i had a similar situation to the dudes from game 10 who were defending a hacker and the person who was hacking literally said " im not hacking anymore " he continued to defend this dude for another 10 minutes
I have to honest, the biggest problem in Phantom Forces is the damage registering and people killing you without looking at you. Cheaters are kicked very quickly when they are caught.
I remember having a 120 kill game pace - being en route for my first 100, and even exceeding it by 20 kills, then a silent aimer joined, whole lobby defended him, ended up with a trash KDR and 98 kills. I never even got a 100 kill game pace again.
The worst ones of them are the ones who then start to go on about YOU being "mad cuz bad" or how you have to "git gud" or shit like that when THEY are the ones hacking. Absolutely disgusting, I despise everyone who thinks that hacking in a game like Phantom Forces is cool, or is being toxic whilst blatantly cheating.
People like them is which I wished in the past the worst possible and the death too. I wanted Doxx they tbh and make their life terrible until they quit cheating. But now I just face they and see who have brain (to discuss with him) or not (leave him)
@@deam6329 Same. I just try to zip them to prove them wrong, and then spin on them once I get a kill... im at Rank 78 now, and I've seen so many hackers that it was enough for over 600 kills on the zip.
AMAZING VIDEO!! alot of pf content is just kind of copy paste. find gun use gun say gun is the best. This was actually interesting. I like how you went undercover and gave a spy feel to the whole video. Major props. please continue making good vids
Its just a shame that the gaming community as a whole is plagued with these cheaters who just ruin everyone else's experience. And the worst part is that there's pretty much no solution to the issue. Game devs can upgrade their ant-cheat system and ban as many hackers as they want, but there's always a small group of players who still cheat.
I make scripts and get paid for it. You do realize that even if they have a good anti cheat it will eventually get bypassed by people like me. So when they update after a week or so. So it’s almost impossible for them to completely stop cheating as a whole.
i like how you are blaming the hackers without mentioning that roblox has no anti cheat, i mean it does have one but its so bad a 2 year old baby could bypass it without spending a cent, and on top of that roblox dosent ban exploiters so there arent any consequences for cheating
only roblox can fix this but since they are incompetent they don’t
@@jaythehooper8130 but why you create scripts for games instead of creating something by your own, like a game or idk. It's becouse off guys like you that most of the games are falling apart becouse of the scripts.
It is our objective to ruin every 9 year old's saturday
This video says exactly what I have been saying for months, there are so many people who use cheats like silent aim, esp, hitbox extender and such, yet very rarely do they get kicked because the average player just does not know what it looks like to use them. I could not be happier to have confirmation that I am not the only one who has noticed this, especially because these people not getting kicked has killed a lot of the enjoyment from the game because of how common they seemingly are. It feels as though every few rounds there's someone using one of the aforementioned exploits, and it's really annoying how people will even defend them.
Sometimes I feel like I see a hacker but I 2nd doubt myself that someone’s using silent aim or extended hitboxes
at the end he says that there are rank 300 out there hacking, I played with a lot of 300's and I call some out for hacking (I don't have chat on so I talk to my self).
I was in lobby with a person using trigger bot and silent aim and I noticed so I started a vote kick then everyone else was just saying “they’re just good stop being mad”
The average player really doesn’t know how to tell hacks so that makes it harder to kick a cheater.
This reason exactly is pretty much why I’ve stopped playing the game
@@unstoppblekid not all of them are hacking.
From someone who used to be a lowlife hacker, i have a few things to say.
For one, we call them "Closet cheaters" and are generally looked down upon.
Although the anti cheat isn't great player reports like that of yours in the form of the video usually cause action. (That's how all of my accounts were banned in the past.)
Thank you so much for making this video, exposing lowlives, explaining cheats, (and how to spot them), and of course, keeping it cool. Not being a mean person about it.
Can you elaborate a little more i would like to know more about the hacker community. And also how one can be "good" and one "bad".
@@gyrotechnics9766 Elaborate on what you are asking?
@@gyrotechnics9766 Ok, so usually there's not much that makes you looked up on, but usually things like using server side exploits on stupid games to do cool things (like, what citizen does), and obvious cheating doesn't make you looked up upon exactly, but being a closet cheater isn't cool. Using scripts overall to get better at games isn't usually looked up on. In some scenarios it doesn't matter but in most you are looked down upon if you are closet cheating.
ESPECIALLY those who try to deny everything, those who don't hold themselves accountable for their actions. Being obvious cheaters isn't exactly looked UP upon but its not as looked down upon as closet cheating/being a script kiddie is. Only exception is if you make your own cheats. Even then, still lame.
@@ViatorsPath Yeah as also a ex lowlife hacker lol, I agree with what you say here, of course I do sometimes want to go back and cheat but a while ago I realised that cheating is technically pointless and ruins the game for many people. I have been banned my fair share. I like typical modders and citizen though even though some people might hate me for it I think their videos are actually somewhat entertaining. Haven't watched them in a while either. Serverside doesn't necessarily make you a "Bad hacker" however.
i agree that there is an overload of hackers recently and it really does suck that there aren’t enough people to properly deal with this. imo i feel like there should be a trusted group (arranged by stylis) who have rank 0 accounts w mod perms and there only purpose is to go around different lobbies and find hackers. Or there should be a hacker report server where people can say there’s a hacker in and more can join this person to get them banned. i feel like there should be more dedication to banning hackers tho
i feed like if they Implemed this it would have to be an AI that does not show on scoreboard because if there is a group of people doing the moderation you might have to be worried about one of them becoming a hacker/cheater and if that becomes a reality, they could hard kick people who sus them out of there hide hole
yea that’s very true
@@zos_131 yea but the others can tell stylis about the rat
@@figshw yea but hear me out... they dont know
They'd just make accounts bro
This is really informative. I've accused hackers in Phantom Forces very recently and the one thing I hate with the community is when someone is obviously hacking and they don't vote kick them. They just let the hacker rampage on the server. I thought high rank players had a responsibility to spot and call out these hackers but they simply ignore and just keep on sweating like hell and don't even care that his/her teammates/enemies are having discomfort with these hackers. We all just wanna play our game fairly, lads. No need to ruin someone's day.
get better
@@toastplud clearly you don't understand my statement. You should read it again and understand what I've said. If you still can't understand then that's your problem.
@@someordinaryguy4004 cope with it
Also community: falsely kicks a good player
@@someordinaryguy4004 cry
At 3:42, I'm pretty sure a fitting term for what they are doing is called Projecting the blame, where they call someone out of something they are doing themselves as a way to get heat off of their back.
most definitely
The amount of work that went into this video is insane, great video Snowy!
Also, I really appreciate that you made this video, maybe it'll help people who are less familiar with hackers to learn how to identify them
that dude hit a triple crossmap all headshots effortlessly was the funniest thing i've seen all day 🤣
This is actually really helpful information, earlier today I was playing and someone was silent aiming, I had no clue what silent aiming was and thought he was lagging lol
Thank you for this well thought out and edited video snowy!!
U havent even watched it yet 🤦
@@user-yd6hr4zj9m real asf
@@user-yd6hr4zj9m I only watched about a minute, sure but you can just tell that he took a lot of time on it
The other time I ran into one, it went through walls and every time my character respawned, the hacker already knew where I was. I had too many encounters with too many that's why I didn't want to play anymore. but on the other hand , i loved seeing you snowy again !
An strategy I usually do when I identify a hacker is to initiate the votekick immediately. There's a higher chance to get votekicked if it is initated suddenly and without accusing someone from hacking beforehand.
If the votekick fails, I start tbagging every time I kill them, until they get mad and start using stronger but more obvious hacks.
I call this strategy "annoy them to death"
I hope a lot of people see this video, it can be difficult to explain to someone in chat what silent aim is and how it works, I feel like you explained it very well. It's amazing how many people don't even realize it's a thing.
get better
bro you are REALLY a good investigator lol imagine snowy becomes detective
Thank you snowy, for interesting content that breaks the mold of other pf content
As someone who as used exploits in pf, the reason we hack is to try to see how much reaction we get out of the community. Or testing our hacks like: animation skipping (making bfg no recoil and automatic) aim bot/silent, and esp. and wallbang.
i hope this reaches out to more people men i always point our such things and some people still cant see it and then i find a poor victim believing a closet cheater and they say, “they’re just good”
This was really helpful. I didn't know what half of these hacks were till I saw this video today.
I’m a rank 125 and whenever I attempt to kick a hacker people say that I’m mad because I’m a high rank kicking a low rank player and the vote kick never gets through. It really annoys me because they are not able to identify people cheating if they are not doing it blatantly. Hopefully people will see this video and will be able to identify these things now.
Well made video, I hope people can finally get hackers kicked 🙏
a friend of mine designed a bot for brazilian servers on PF, it analyses gameplay and when it finds a cheater, the bot will target them and will votekick poll them until they're kicked, sadly it can just protect one server at a time
yo thats sick, o7 to your brother
How the hell does that work
thank you for making this video, i learned new things about different hacks, and it's crazy to see how many people in games will still not want to kick a hacker, no matter how blatant they are
The quality and the amount of work put into these videos have improved so much, keep up the great content!
I feel like there were some cheats that you had missed out on which were important to address such as certain ammo exploits, which you might see in snipers and shotguns etc. But all in all video was great.
Yo snowy you on some narduar type shit this is crazy im amazed also awesome video love your content its very very enjoyable 👌
A tactic I've noticed is for hackers to play really normal. I usually catch them for just weird plays and try to vk them. It usually doesn't go through, and the second it doesn't, the guy turns his hacks on all the way and we can't kick him for the remainder of the cooldown. Also ran into one with so many other alts on the server we couldn't get enough votes. Also another thing. If a player has no movement, but stupid good aim, they're probably hacking too.
i found a guy called kaiky or smth like that, he got godlike aim but he didnt knew how to slide or superjump lol
I can’t tell if it’s actually happening, but it seems they also try to turn off the hacks whenever attention is brought to them
@@Kodaiva yea, like if someone tries to votekick them, they instantly disable or maybe they get more blatant
Those hackers suck at hiding
When I feel like someone is cheating or has really unnatural aim, I wait till a match where I’m not teamed with them before using team chat to ask if others feel the same way.
If they do, then I say to wait for next round to be teamed up with them before spectating said player for the entire match with squad spawn. If we confirm it, we tell global chat and hopefully vk them.
Thank you, for trying to investigate the hackers. Now everyone playing phantom forces will understand AND figure out if someone is hacking. Thank you.
yes stylis need to do something about the cheating sistuation, its gone bad since after the april fools update, the amount of cheater i encounter to is way more then last year and the bad thing is people seems not be able to recognise they are cheating and when the vk gone off, it just doesnt works, i think stylis really needs to take some action instead of adding new guns into the game. Welp, thats my thought on the current state of the game, if anyone have any other idea, feel free to correct me
Nice video. This is the reason I stopped playing Phantom Forces. I just tried it again after a couple of years, and it instantly feels worse than ever. I really wish this whole issue could be fixed permanently
Back in the days there were once exploiters and hackers who would fight others of their own kind in the name of bringing justice to those who take advantage of us regular players. Sadly not many of these great men and women exist anymore ether due to being banned, stopped playing the game, afraid of getting banned, or fell over to the other side.
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you very much specially to you @snowy for making this video about this investigation and explaining to us what different types of cheating or hacking there are as well as explaining to the public or us what kind of situations or details we have to lookout for when identifying a player, as a person that has been playing phantom forces for a long time I really really appreciate that you’ve done this video for people to know how to determine or acknowledge when someone is hacking, I think for many of us we have been waiting for this types of videos on how to properly identify hackers based on the accurate name of the hacks they’re using. As a suggestion could you make more of this types of educational videos for phantom forces I would really love to know more, but of course keep up the Great Work and do it with time not burning yourself out. A lot of thanks for explaining really good in this video.
whats even worse is that i have noticed in some low rank lobbies, the players are actually voting no towards kicking a hacker, which is so annoying. Anyways, this video helped me learn more types of hacking and how to identify them, nice vid snowy
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@@toastplud what’s ur problem why are you commenting this on lots of other comments
This is the biggest self esteem boost I've ever had In my time alive. thank you!
I find it funny how when you look up Phantom Forces on YT now, the SECOND AND THIRD results are usually "scripts" and "pastebin"... I'm so glad you made this video Snowy. Keep up the good work! I'm so glad you made this video Snowy. I hope you keep making more stuff like this to create conversation within the community-or at least what's left of it.
This really shows us how we can identify hackers and take matters into our own hands. Thx.
love the editing style, please keep making content :)
the visuals you have made during the silent sim explanation was absolutely amazing.
Finally, someone in the PF community acknowledging and explaining the hacker problem for PF. I've also noticed much more hackers in the game, which has just drivin me more and more away. They have to fix the Vote kick system at the very least.
Thanks for this. I will look closer into people’s gameplay now that I know what silent aim and extended hitboxes
Really high quality video man, shame that people really have to ruin the game for everyone else
One of your best vids yet 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I completely agree with you bro. Phantom Forces is being really destroyed now a days by these kind of people. I also feel like some Higher ranks are doing this as-well. Why would they be doing this? Well it’s obvious, they won’t get caught because they are well… a high rank. I don’t really play Phantom Forces much now all because of these crazy events happening in the game. Even if most people honestly probably don’t care about this I would keep an eye on any person and any player they see; even if they are a high rank don’t expect them to not being cheating, like Snowy said, some high ranks will cheat and not get caught, this needs to be told out to other players also if you are reading this Snowy I have been going through the same exact thing recently.
Edit: sorry for the long sentence but this needs to get out to others playing PF
I love the effort you are putting into these videos keep it up man
This is how I found snowy, I am instantly a fan. I've played this game since it went free to play after alpha, the cheaters are more common than you think.
Finally someone who is getting serious in the hacking situation. I appreciate you Snowy, really. You're godly who taking a step forward unlike other youtubers who only talk trash about it and make fun of it. Thank you snowy.
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@@toastpludDude, do you literally just go around making the same exact reply on dozens of other people's comments?
Wow, you have even less of a life than the rank 300s in this game.
Snowy thank you so much for creating this video. You helped me understand how to undercover cheater. Now 2~ cheaters get banned bc i reported this cheaters. Big thanks
as a past exploiter on pf this is kind of accurate but from my expirence if you just use silent aim with it is not too obvious and you can easily get by, also extended hithoxes do exist but I haven’t heard of a script that lets you individually edit each limb hatbox size. Also with aimbot you can make it so when your crosshair moves to a player it will do it slower/smoother to make it seem legit. Also the anti cheat was horrible, the only thing stopping a hacker is the votekick system.
Why did you stop exploiting, the reason I asked this question is that to see what are the reasons people may stop hacking or cheating after a long enough time
yeah theres also a thing where you can disable wallbang
@@Cyan_Scug it gets boring hacking I’m guessing
@@australium7374 ok
@@Cyan_Scug gets boring, almost quit roblox
Great video dude, I really like how you managed to make hackers in pf a subject worth talking about
again, great job with this one:)
the most impressive thing in this video is how they didn't turn off their joins.
joins come by default closed to everyone but your friends
its like a horror story but with hackers. i give you my full support on being a journalist too btw.
This happens more often in almost every game now. I notice some players would defend those who would hack/insult others without having any prior knowledge about what went down or what took place. Just today after playing a hide & seek game, I had a player harassing me by following me & when I was able to get away from them i decided to get back at them by telling them where did they go, why did they stop chasing me, & to try to catch me. Then outta nowhere some random girl said in the chat, " stop forcing them to chase you." This is just the very tip of it. I have & will probably continue to experience interactions like these.
This video quality is amazing. Your editing and commentary and everything man. They are just beautiful man don’t stop.
It's sad because even if they get banned, they can still create new accounts 😔
Roblox should make a limit with alting. Maximum 3
Roblox has been upgrading to ip bans depending on the circumstances
So no alts
@@EaW-Enjoyer vpn
@@deam6329 Alts have MANY MANY MANY other uses than hacking and restricting alts is stupid
Hi there, a former exploiter here. Me and my friends mostly used exploits to get to top tier level stuff faster, so we wont have to grind 500 hours to get something we wanted, because we could get it in 5. Some pepole might critiscise me and my friends for not playing the game fair, and thats true, and i agree with your oppinion, but let me ask you this: if you could shorten the grind for that sweet gun/item you want by 95% with little to no drawbacks, would you do it? And dont tell me pepole ruin the fun in games (its kinda true but still) as most pepole i know who actually use the exploits/cheats are actually quite chill and just want to save time, mess around or just chill as the coolest dude on the server that gives free stuff to pepole. i remember playing a game that was very very popular back then, and i used exploits to give me 2.5 bilion credits, but scince i didnt even know what to do with them i just gave everyone free items, cash and other fun stuff. There are alot of bad exploiters, cheaters and other pepole like that wich set a stereotype for preety much all of us, wich i think is unfair. As i said before, a big portion of exploiters and cheaters just want to have fun, and skip most of the grind. i hope this clears up things a bit. Cya!
With such an amount of very hard to-detect cheaters on Roblox, any "competitive scene" on the platform is just ruined as anyone could be running an ESP/silent aim cheat and get away with it.
The only people who get caught cheating in PF are the people who aren't smart with them. I made an alt and tried out some scripts.
The only times where I've been called out for cheating on my alt was when I was walling. This makes sense because it's hard to die when you always know where an enemy is and overall its hard to be subtle with it.
When I'm running around with no spread, no recoil, and instant reload on, no one bats an eye. I still have to aim and I can still be caught off guard and die because I had walls turned off.
With silent aim on, a circle pops up where your crosshair is, whatever enemy is in that circle will get hit. Situations like 2:30 only happen if the circle was made too large and the visibility check was turned off. The visibility check makes it so that the silent aim only works when an enemy is actually visible and not behind any cover. You can still wallbang people, you just have to actually aim at them.
Silent aim was also something else that I was never called out on since the aimbot circle was small enough where I needed a small bit of effort to actually land shots. I also had my headshot percentage with it hover around 15-20 percent.
An extra measure that I took to not get caught was to purposefully die and keep my KD in an acceptable range if I was going too hot with my scripts.
The whole point of the alt was to try and get the alt up to a decent rank, around 70 or 80 and see how much I can get away with before I get banned. If I bought some rank 250 account and started mowing down lobbies with cheats I doubt I would ever be called out unless I was doing some stupid blatant stuff.
the worst part about that is there could be 5 people like you in my lobby and i would have probably no idea
Well, I play on console, so I never experience hackers. But it really seems that hackers are at a all-time high on pc.
Im glad you made a video on this! Great job snowy
I only just got back to the game after a few month break from playing and I can confidently say that it seems way better than it was back at the start of the year. I've been back to playing for about a week now and I haven't run into nearly as many hackers. Just hoping it will stay that way; keep doing the lord's work Snowy!
On a side note:
It's really disappointing that there are people who think this stuff is funny, who defend hackers, and who abuse the votekick system simply because they want to use it to get revenge on people they don't like. I really hope that it gets better, even though I know it probably won't, its never bad to hold out some hope that the trolls in the community would wisen up and try to have a fair round for once. And yes, it is just a game, but for those of us who have been playing this game for six or seven years, a lot of us grew up playing it and we want others to be able to enjoy it like we did.
This actually helps as I do wonder how the hell 70% of the time do people kill me as I am a rank 130 and very experienced and yet a rank 30 guy some how kills me and the rest of my team when I'm with them so... Yezs thanks for the help of analysing hackers better
From my experience it’s a lucky game if there is even one cheater, had matches with two or three a lot lately.
People getting only headshots 95% of the time and no one cares.
great job, you made it so that hackers can now use this information to their advantage :)
Thank you for making this video, it really educated me a lot about spotting cheaters. :)
And it would be really nice if Stylis made a tutorial in the main game to guide players how to spot cheaters, anyways have a good day Snowy.
good video man. i feel like so many legit cheaters go unchecked because they still cant preform above a 5 kd even with cheats. hopefully this vid opens up people's eyes
this is also an issue on roblox's end. Roblox should hardware / IP ban people who are banned for cheating. They should also bring back the old account making system of having to put in an email so making alt accounts will be a bit harder to do
Roblox already doesn’t ban hackers, for Roblox a lot of kids play so a hardware or ip ban could do a lot of damage, also Roblox can’t even detect some executors so you could be hacking and Roblox couldn’t tell.
There is hope though, from my experience playing arsenal, Bad Business, and PF... You can mass report a hackers account through the official roblox repoting system and 8 times out of 10 they'll get temporarily banned or even some cases terminated.
roblox makes money from cheaters, so they do not care sadly
@@102days Most times roblox gets an update they try to stop some executors, but they get fixed in a day or less.
this is sad and one of the reasons i do not play much anymore, when you try kick a high rank for obvious hacks, people just say "oh he's just a good player" and other things like that, Great video tho
Not as annoyed as the low ranks who watched too many Spirals videos just to say "They're just good." These individuals annoy me more than the cheaters.
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excellent job explaining everything in the vid, people really need to learn the different types of cheats and learn what they look like/function. (not bc i get false votekicked 98% of my games)
ty for this video ive found so many cheaters but no one wants to kick them bc they cant tell whether or not they are cheating and these can be subtle to the untrained eye.
High quality video. I really like the editing style too. Keep it up! :)
I really love PF recently, people flying around going like 500/0 very very obviously using aimbot, flyhack and whatever else its all called but the server just doesnt kick them
Coming from cheating experience in other games, having esp definitely makes it easy to see closet cheaters. With esp you can see if theyre pausing or engaging at the perfect moments, scoping in right when they need to, hiding in corners when they know people are coming. Definitely makes it easier for them to find other potential cheaters and get them removed in order to save themselves.
I'm gonna help you here, theres some information in the video that you would really need to know how to hack and the types of scripts people use to know (yes i have experience with hacking but no i dont hack). Hackers basically use 'executors' that attach to the game once it is opened and they use these executors to run scripts. Higher qaulity scripts hackers use tend to have setting where you can change how amplified the effects of the hack are. For example, you can change the radius of your silent aim, as you said, but you can also change the speed that the aim switches from player to player. You can also change the the size of hitboxes when using extended hitboxes. You can even change the percentage chance that each shot you take is a headshot, limb shot, or torso shot. Experienced hackers usually used settings that are just believable where it seem passable that the person is simply a high skill player. This is why so many hackers can go completely undetected, however, as of recently many hackers have been struggling due to roblox's updates in anti cheat software. Yes i know im late to the video but im just spreading some infoirmation.
bro why did you write an essay in the comment section 💀
snowy, i have not watched u in over a year: your editing has improved a LOT! good work
This video helps me A LOT cause I got kicked at rank 234 -_- for being sus and since you made this video now I should look at death cams and look to see if they are hacking this video helps me alot thx 😀
greatest video ive seen in ages
Basically they are called closet cheaters or just legit cheats. They use silent aim which is just a circle you can make it small or big. 2:43 Like snowy said there is a stud limit on how far your silent aim notices people. You can add Wallbang, Hitchance, Color of the Circle, Make the circle invisible OR they use just plain old aimlock but its smooth so it looks like they just have really good tracing. Most of the time they use ESP which lets you see throw walls. Ive seen a lot of high ranked cheaters no higher than 300 though. They are so much more easier to kill than blatant cheaters. A blatant cheater normally autokills everyone with wallbang and spinbot+C Frame (Speed) and they dont care if they get votekicked because they have auto join. So basically auto join activates when you get votekicked and it forces you into a new server or into the same server. Snowy explained it better than i did but i just wanted to cut what he said down into typing
love the idea, the editing, it’s genuinely really good! well done snowy :)
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSS someone that understands that you can be a hackr with a low kd its so annoying when theyre like "his kd isnt even that good. Are you trying to false vk?"
Dude the edits on this video is REALLY a step up. Keep treating us good snowy lol
great video, really in depth and great quality!
Finally! The video that I was waiting for is finally here! And it didn’t disappoint either!
I really enjoyed this video, very interesting and i would love to see you make another one like this one.
Im currently rank 107 in game and i’ve gained some experience that im now able to spot hackers earlier than most people in a lobby sometimes, which can be unfortunate because votekicking early can lead to non kick from other because they didn’t have time to see what’s going on and i most of the time waste my votekick and enable the countdown, allowing the hacker to go crazy for a minute and waste people experience
Im watching this video late but if you read this comment, thank you and please i would like to see another investigation like this one, really loved it.
It’s so annoying when the other team just acknowledges it and doesn’t care pf is truley in a horrible state with cheaters they really don’t care I saw a dude with a auto BFG just going ham like the bfg was a damn ak and it took 3 tries to get him out
I loved watching this video ngl I’d love to see you make videos of just drama happening in servers
Good video man, loved it start to finish
that Paradox I Dont Speak pfp got me laughing for what felt like hours
mister white in the thumbnail 😳
Be me: wishing I was a mod/admin to help stylis
Snowy: Doing gods work
i had a similar situation to the dudes from game 10 who were defending a hacker and the person who was hacking literally said " im not hacking anymore " he continued to defend this dude for another 10 minutes
I’m enjoying this video so much. You earned a new subscriber
phantom forces is never gonna be se same ever again.. 2020 was its glory year
@Анамє іnside ꑭ i remember when people didn't have all the same setup :( that were the days
11:21 that guy was bhoping
I have to honest, the biggest problem in Phantom Forces is the damage registering and people killing you without looking at you. Cheaters are kicked very quickly when they are caught.
I remember having a 120 kill game pace - being en route for my first 100, and even exceeding it by 20 kills, then a silent aimer joined, whole lobby defended him, ended up with a trash KDR and 98 kills. I never even got a 100 kill game pace again.
The worst ones of them are the ones who then start to go on about YOU being "mad cuz bad" or how you have to "git gud" or shit like that when THEY are the ones hacking.
Absolutely disgusting, I despise everyone who thinks that hacking in a game like Phantom Forces is cool, or is being toxic whilst blatantly cheating.
People like them is which I wished in the past the worst possible and the death too. I wanted Doxx they tbh and make their life terrible until they quit cheating. But now I just face they and see who have brain (to discuss with him) or not (leave him)
@@deam6329 Same. I just try to zip them to prove them wrong, and then spin on them once I get a kill... im at Rank 78 now, and I've seen so many hackers that it was enough for over 600 kills on the zip.
@@deam6329 I might actually apply for game mod, so I can ban these kids...
AMAZING VIDEO!! alot of pf content is just kind of copy paste. find gun use gun say gun is the best. This was actually interesting. I like how you went undercover and gave a spy feel to the whole video. Major props. please continue making good vids
This is one of the best of videos I’ve ever seen
I was never able to recognize the extended hitbox since my internet is bad. But now I will look after for it
You need to do this more, hell i'd be willing to share my input on this topic.
the exploiters accusing others is very common even with the most subtle ones as someone who used to use them sometimes when i was bored