I disagree. The curl was our way of trying to get a "mixed" look. We did not verbalize it but that is what we wanted. We liked them best when freshly done. It looked more natural cause lack of new growth caused the same uniform look and easily combable. In fact, when they were dry, they looked like an afro (which was undesirable) Edmund sylvers did not have a curl. It was his natural hair not brushed and blown out to a fro There have always been wigs. In the fifties, everyday black women wore wigs. Most of the black women in movies and TV had a wig or fall. This continued into the seventies. They even had afro wigs. Entertainers and everyday black women wore weaves and wigs. Weaves we're big for even short haired styles. In the 90s, we wore weaves that looked natural. It amazes me in comment sections that even women can't tell that we wore weaves. The difference between them and today is that many of us tried to make them look like they grew from our scalp. My hair blended in with the tracks. In the eighties and nineties, we used glue. I got my first weave in the nineties. The first two times, bonded it. Afterwards, got them seen in. The natural hair movement never died. I would see women and girls wear their hair in their natural state in the eighties. I went natural in nineties while in college at an hbcu. It was popular in NYC, DMV, atl, and black colleges in the 90s. If you look at music videos in the eighties and nineties, you will see natural models. Asian peoples come from the Khoisan people of South Africa thousands of yrs ago. Also, during the transatlantic slave trade, people were taken from west and south Africa then taken to the Americas. The khoi people are from south Africa. There are many black Americans that have slanted/monolid eyes. They may also have a serious hourglass figure. Maybe lightskin. Short stature. These are phenotypes of khoi women. Khoi women do not have Asian DNA. It is thought that khoi and Madagascan people migrated to Asia and Melanesia
Thank you for the correction. I could not find a lot of proper articles/ journalism when looking up this topic. Unfortunately, there is not a lot of resources when looking into the history of black hair in The United States, and those that I did find implied what I stated in this video. This often leaves 1st and 2nd generation African Americans like myself to have to rely on information provided by mainstream media and large corporations. I will pin this comment to use as a resource.
@@DynamicTouch I understand fully. Sis, your humbleness has me in awe of you. I also wanted to inform you that there were a number of girls and ladies that were natural but got their hair pressed. At one time, I got silk presses. It looked like a relaxer but was very bouncy. There were many naturals like that. We would get our hair done every two months.
@@ertfgghhhh Thanks so much! I always feel as though I can learn from others. Thanks for the insight! I kind of felt that this was the case (Concerning silk presses) when looking at photos from that time, but I wasn't sure. Now I know for sure. I really feel as though we keep repeating the hair wheel. History is definitely repeating itself.
@@DynamicTouch *if meant to say we would get our hair pressed every 2 weeks. That was the thing if u could afford it. U are right about how we keep repeating ourselves. It is because we do not change the core of our problem-self hate. We hate ourselves. We hate our african hair. We would do anything to make it "straighter'(less kinky, more curly or wavy) . we want the mixed look. Plz look into the new $800 "jerri curls" they have. They have to get it every 2-3 months. Smh. They could buy homes and real estate at those prices
@LIONESS PROUD untrue we coined the phrase "creamy crack" referring to relaxers in the 80s. Because it harmed our scalps and strands. You will see various artists in 90s- Shane, brandy, rage, Badu, Lauryn hill, Jill Scott and many more tout natural hairstyles and solely braids. There were also songs talking about our hair, skin, and self love. It sparked a whole movement and genre- neo soul.... There were also natural salons in the 90s. How do I know? Cause I went to them and I'm in nc- which was slower than Cali, dmv, Hampton roads, atl, and up north. If you are my age, maybe you didn't catch on. I have only lived in areas with hbcus. There were MANY adults who did not have a relaxer. And there were many afrocentric ados who along with their family, that were natural. And we rocked daishikis and African fabrics in the 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s. It is not a fad for us Maybe you or your family/assoc did not catch on or pay attention to us. I was in no way a natural unicorn...
I grew up in a mostly asian neighborhood and I think a lot of non asian folks don't get that yes some Asian people do indeed have curly hair, they just straighten it and heat train it to the point where you usually don't actually see their curls until they get older and like a lot of women when they age, cut their hair and do less to it. I see black women inspiring people of all races who have natural hair to wear their natural hair as a positive.
Yes well, those Asian women in the video instead of saying that they were inspired by black women they keep using the word foreign. Which really pissed me the hell off. Only one said she was inspired by an African-American woman that cut her hair off
@@aanyamallick7747 exactly...they're the same people to make money off of black women (from hairstyles) and treat us like trash by accusing us of stealing and being rude. They don't respect or like us for the most part. Can't even pay homage properly even when its BLATANT who they are trying to imitate. this is why I don't support things like k-pop because k-pop stars do the exact same thing...
In summary, Black women, y’all don done it again! Look at your beautiful selves inspiring even people that tried to make you hate yourselves to love themselves. You are the true blue print and here are the long overdue flowers they refused to give you💐💐🌹🌺
Tbh some of them are natural but most of them are perms. I remember going to school with a Asian girl who permed her hair and tried to pass it off as her own. She was one of those Filipinos that imitated everything about black culture, until one day she stopped and it was because her mom didn't want to pay for them anymore. Eventually she confessed that she wanted black people hair.
Sandra Oh proudly wears her hair in its curly state. If you think she’s the only Asian woman with a curl pattern you’re mistaken. A lot of Asian women are hiding their natural hair texture, just like black women have and still do. Curly hair, darker skin and dark eyes are dominant traits but that fact alone isn’t enough for millions of people to love themselves.
I think a lot of Asian women just legitimately don’t know their hair is textured. I see a lot of Asian women with big frizzy hair that looks “straight”, but it’s probably curly or wavy. I’m white and Asian and I thought that my hair texture must’ve come from my white side because it’s not straight, but then I looked closer at my own Asian mom’s hair lol.
@@gummy5862 yall are not like us though. Being half white half black, the hair is textured regardless. No offense but asians and whites have very basic hair, it isnt like ours
I hate these comments about curly perms. As someone whose lived in Korea, the amount of my Korean friends who have openly told me that they have really curly hair but hide it with straight perms is A LOT. Korean people have straight up told me that many of them actually have curly hair but hide it really well. I’ve seen relaxed looking hair so many times while out and about too.
@@liisamazingayye6710 they're not lying in the comments. Most people in Korea have naturally straight hair. That is just a fact and I find it weird that black women keep trying to force curly hair on to them. I live in korea too and some women/girls do have hair that looks like black women with a relaxer and their hair is definitely curly but it's just a fact that the vast majority of people here have straight hair. Some have wavy hair which they don't distinguish from curly.
@@LethalLemonLime bruh wtf are you talking about waying black women are forcing curly hair on them. I said PERMS. everyone knows that most Koreans have straight hair naturally but the fact that some get it to mimick black hair is a problem. you're weird
Okay so I'm half Korean, and I'm going to add what i know. There are Koreans with curly hair, my Grandfather my Uncle and mother have curly hair but it's nothing like African hair. And a lot of people have perms. Korean people tend to have some unusual phenotypes as compared to other east Asian people. You see folks with green and grey eyes people with dark brown hair dark skin(but not as dark as some of us, more like philipino dark or Mexican dark) and you see curly and wavy hair that looks permed though it's natural. But they don't have a a 3b to 4c hair type unless their are African ancestors in the bloodline. Korean natural hair movement is a whole stunt and show. Because the natural traditional hair that was used before western products were introduced is well documented and the Chinese knew Korean women as having very thick lustrous hair. I can even describe the the haircare of women during that time. First there was no shampoo or conditioner s. Koreans used a plaster made of mung beans as they have saponins and the solids acted as an exfoliant, Chinese and Arabian soaps were imported, and common people used water and most people used rivers to bathe in. Women who were of status bathed in wooden tubs and they cleaned their hair that way. Perfumes were usually flowers, cinnamon, star anise , imported perfumes and exotic oils and women during that last kingdom perfumed the water they bathed in as well as the oil they put in their hair. They also bathed often fully clothed, but commoners many times were nude. Their hair was parted in the middle and girls wore a ponytail and women wore a low bun with a hair pin. Camelia oil was the popular oil to use but i do know other oils were used. Because Joseon the last kingdom was so conservative women did not much more than this. The entertainers usually wore wigs and the royals did too, until a ban was implemented. So women regardless of texture or class usually just cleansed or rinsed with green tea or other types of teas, oiled the hair, used a comb almost like a flea comb, parted it and put it in a pony tail or bun, and left it alone. And that's how it would grow. Also many women didn't wash their hair deeply except for once a year or unless they just really need to clean up. Such as when the queen has a night planned with the king. This is why I'm rolling my eyes at Korean Women trying to adopt African methods when a whole traditional system works and is in place. It's one thing to modify, or utilize the wisdom of another culture but it's giving me black fishing vibes. Makes no damned sense. It's like us trying to use European methods and standards to keep our hair healthy. It won't work. No matter what these people try they will never be Black. But hey if it makes them happy oh well.
@@rutho.6282 All of it! I'm sitting here dying! I mean i guess if they see our beauty....but I'm just like why the lies? If they want to use our products, they don't need to do all this. It's crazy a f. Kinda of creepy actually.
🎀Despite this, none of them could utter the word,”Black.” That the curly hair tips they were getting to master their hair was from,”black creators.” Instead they used the word,”foreign.” 😤 Not one of them can credit where they got help and inspiration from. How hard can it be?🎀
It's called a curly perm aswell........thier trying to make a statement if bw can where thier perm to make it straight then we can where a curly perm to make thiers curly...majority of naturally straight hair ppl with curly hair it's a curly perm...but the tension is on bw hair
I don't care just give black women their flowers. We're the ones that have been kicked down, mocked, insulted because of our type 4 hair by the world. Which can range from kinks, coils and thick thick afros. The world did not see the beauty and lied to us about it and we have had to support each other and see the beauty in our God given natural hair. Ppl want our rhythm but never our blues. KMT.
So Korean women weren’t? This beauty standard was probably strongly enforced by colonial influence. I find solace in the fact we’ve been through the same things
@@sillycheese301 Fr I’m black and I am disappointed in this, we should stand together not think it’s a competition. You’re just an embarrassment to black women, you should help and uplift others who want to get to their roots like us. We were both robbed of our roots so why not help each other, not have pride make your decision, if we were mocked, insulted, and kicked down, and we still wear our hair naturally out, just imagine their country’s? It must be hard for them not having a support to wear their hair out, we should help them not hold a grudge! I don’t know who told you to make our race higher than others but it sounds a whole lot like the ones who “mocked, insulted, and kicked us down”. You should check yourself before commenting something like that, it’s just sad.
@ spuf lober Hello! This video was made with the purpose to show how the Natural Hair Movement (created by Black Americans) inspired modern-day Natural Hair Movements (there are now Natural Hair Movements across Eurasia, the Americas, Africa, and Australia). Yes, many of these techniques are based off of Black American techniques. They were molded and changed a bit to fit those who have looser or wavier hair types. There is nothing wrong with giving credit where credit is due. Black Americans also created Hip Hop, R and B, B-Boying, Beat Boxing, and so many other things that has affected many worldwide. At the same time, I am sure your country has also inspired and sparked creativity in others as well. I am sure If someone took from your culture, you would like to be credited. Also, it's not all black people, it was Black Americans who created this movement and these techniques. As someone of African descent, I have also learned the importance of giving Black Americans credit where credit is due. Thanks for stopping by our channel! What is something about your country or culture that has inspired others around the world, I would love to know since I like learning about other cultures.
why should we credit them? we do our hair for ourselves and our self care. i don’t think black creators doing their hair is crediting others. it’s because everyone’s hair has a diffrent routine
@@jalo7289 Hi! I don't think this is a proper analogy. If I went to India and started using their hair routine (from the various cultural groups) but made a new brand that claimed that I invented these techniques, I am sure Indian people would be offended. If I take from Indian traditional haircare, I always make sure to mention it. Why? Because it is wrong to steal from others without stating the root of my inspiration. I would state "My routine is inspired by Indian traditional haircare that was tweaked and molded to fit kinky, coily curly hair". I do not think adding a sentence like this to your product description/or website is an unreasonable request. It literally can be resolved with one or two sentences.
@@DynamicTouch but it works for their hair. no hair care routine is the same. everyone’s hair is diffrent even black womens hair. i never see blk women crediting another for a hair care routine. they just do it. or do the most trending styles.
Your absolutely correct! The natural hair community has grown so much in influence and has become a blessing to so many, even those from other walks of life.
@Mimi mixed race people of color who identify as black have always existed in America. 😕 What, we know that already. Most of y'all are in our families...just like in mine. So, we know that. I really don't get what your message is. 🤔 Right now, the summation of it is coming off kind of like: "black women created the natural hair movement, but biracials, mixed, and non-black women are doing it better than bw. Plus, black women left it anyway, while we're still here killing it. So, haha 😸 , take that black women." That is how your comment came off, sounding rather rude, and kind of implying that all of those different groups of women you listed are superior to bw because they are doing what bw created better. No one would say something like that to other groups of women about something that they created. Imagine someone saying to Asian women; Asians created kimonos, but biracials, mixed and non-asian women came along wearing them and are killing it. We wearing it better than them, plus Asian women left it. We are still here wearing them. Most people would not think that is okay. However, it's deemed more than okay to do this to black women. Also, biracials are biracials. They aren't black, white or whatever else they are combined with. They are just biracial.
@Mimi I know that biracials are in a different category than mixed people. That's why I separated them before, biracials, mixed & non-bw. I know that there are generational mixed people too. Although, if you are all of those things you named, why not just call yourself mixed? Why Identify with black at all? If more mixed race people did that, it would force society to put them in their own category. They would no longer just be classified as just black. About the jealousy of bw with type4 hair towards black identified mixed race women with type3 hair, it's not just the bw with type4 who are jealous of them. There are plenty of mixed race women who also have type 4 hair, with even some biracials having type 4 hair too...like doja cat for example. A lot of those women(with tighter curl patterns)are jealous of women who have looser curl patterns as well, despite the race of the woman. So, that has less to do with them being mixed race than it does the hair texture itself. Especially, since there are non mixed bw who also have type 3 hair. The whole mixed race thing is a rabbit hole though. If you ask 100 people what is a mixed race person, you will probably get nearly 100 different answers. Likewise, if you ask 100 people (specifically black people) what a black person is, you will still get nearly 100 different answers. Honestly, a lot of bw(AA) could technically be put in the mixed race category since so many of us have different things in our lineage...a lot of us don't even know what all is there. I guess that's why an African lady in the comments once said: some people in Africa refer to AA women as mixed. You mentioned bw overlooking type 3 hair in other communities, umm why would they not? If the movement was created for women(bw) with kinkier tighter curled hair, why would they be thinking about looser curls. So, Yeah that is why they get overlooked. That, and the fact that although they also had to deal with pressures to conform by straightening their hair, and they also struggled to love what naturally grew out their heads, there is one difference. The difference is that now that they have learned these methods, their hair types are slowly starting to be accepted. 4c hair....short 4c hair with no curl pattern, not so much, which is also a part of the jealousy you mentioned. Another reason for the jealousy you spoke of, I forgot to mention this before, is because women with tighter curls & kinks do not seem to benefit from a movement for tighter curl patterns as much as looser curl patterns; the women with looser curl patterns are becoming the face of the movement that was created for women with tighter curl patterns. That typically tends to upset people, when someone becomes the face or gets credit for something that they created, and then they get pushed to the wayside concerning their own creation. It is also probably why a good portion of them didn't really want others, or certain curl types, in the natural hair movement. They knew that is what would happen. It happens pretty much every time bp create something.
Sometimes it’s really just an Afro wig they have on. Saw a Thai lady here in Thailand with one but sis liked the culture just not when a real Black woman walked in 😂
When my daughter started wearing her hair natural, we lived in Southern Africa. Her hair was a large afro and she is light skinned and people would laugh and stare at her. I would get so angry because her hair straight, was down her back while the folks there were either in wigs or using relaxer that was so strong it couldn't help but break your hair as it was all super strength and it was hard to find neutralizer. We have been brainwashed to hair anything that isn't white, meanwhile person after person on social media engages in Blackfishing!
There's a YT video of a BWoman who lives in Asia and she visited a salon where Amen using perms to accomplish an *afro* they had the nerve to ask her how did _SHE get her hair like THEIRS_ 😒 she replied "mine grows out my head this way" the (fake) shook look on their faces😳 🤦🏽♀️
The case got thrown out because they thought an African American woman was copying Bo Derek, a Caucasian woman wearing an African hairstyle?? Please do a video on this whole Bo Derek situation! 13:15
A lot of people say they didn't know Asian people could have curly hair and to be honest, I can't really blame them because I didn't know that I had curly hair myself. I'm South Asian and my parents are from Sri Lanka and we live in Northern Europe. Here the air is incredibly dry and gets really cold in the winter which is not ideal for a curly hair type. My hair was wavy when younger, but it's close to being completely straight now. I went to Sri Lanka and stayed there for 2 and a half weeks during the hottest months of the year which was March and April that would have temperatures reaching 40℃ and more, but most importantly, be incredibly humid. I noticed something surprising to me. Before going there, it was winter where I live and it was -4℃ and my hair was type 1A. But during the first week in Sri Lanka my hair changed drastically, going from 1A to 3A. During the latter part of my stay, the hair change didn't get as drastic and only went from 3A to 3B. After getting home I washed my hair and blow dried it and went straight back to 1A within 2 days only. I wonder how much curlier my hair would've gotten if I stayed there longer. Who knows? Maybe I could've had 3C or even 4A type hair if stayed there for like a half a year to a year. A lot of South Asians have been so desensitized to media portrayal of us around the world that we have forgotten how we all actually look like and now struggle to find our way back. Either way, I won't live in Sri Lanka since I'm only biologically native and not native to it culturally. I was born and raised in a very different country and I plan om living hear which means I probably won't have my actual natural biological hair. So my regular hair type is 1A, but it's actually 3A/B.
Hey you're probably overtyping your curlier hair. You're probably a wavy (like 2B/2C). I'm saying this because my hair behaved the same way in extremely cold climates when it was damaged. I'd suggest you look into styling products that can trap water in your hair in cold climates, like a leave in or mousse.
Yeah I've faced this too. My hair is a 2b/2c/3a mix. When Im in colder temp, my hair looks close to a flawless blowout. When the climate becomes highly humid, it turns more curly with a bit of Frizz
@@psi9899 Midway through the first 2 weeks it was already 2B/2C. My hair started to get curlier even after that. Just like the comment below you, I had a mix between 3 hair types. It was 2C/3A and a little bit of 3B. I do use moisturizer gel and sometimes oil to keep the gel in, but even then, it's not as effective as in being in the natural environment for my hair.
Curly and kinky hair are rarity if we're talking east asian. In the past few years there's ALSO been an increase in them getting perms to mimic an even tighter kinkier texture.... and some of them claiming as their own. 👀 Sure there are a few who have the texture, but the vast majority... js.
Exactly! Curly hair is a rarity for Asians just as naturally straight hair is rare for black people. It does happen but let's not pretend it is the norm. I'm even noticing that now in historical dramas, non black directors are incorporating box braids as though they been wearing them when we know that's not true. I've seen some Chinese films and films with Vikings suddenly with box braids.....what ever happened to being proud of who you are and where you come from?
Yooo like? If naturally curly hair was that common here (South Korea) people would not be getting curly perms on the reg. I honestly think curly perms are performed more than magic straights. And magic straights are usually done on wavy hair (which is still called 곱슬머리 regardless of how loosely or tightly the hair is curled. Which gives even more insight to how rare curly hair is that they only had one word for it and if you naver it, it shows koreans with loosely wavy hair).
I remember watching a documentary when I was into Gal subculture in the 2000-2010s in Japan which should still be on UA-cam. They really inspired by African American culture which was marketed to them. A lot of them don’t discover their curls until they hit puberty.
So non mixed Asian people can have curly/kinky hair??? I... feel so ignorant 😂😂 I honestly thought they could only have straight to wavy hair, not actual coils and curls.
@@American_negroid_woman Yes, I've heard about curly perms! But there seems to be a section of non mixed Asian people that have naturally curly hair that they use a permanent straightener to hide and 'fit in'. And I'm genuinely shocked. Asians (aside from Indians) are very much a minority where in my country, and I don't even know any in real life. So all the Asians I've ever seen have straight hair (not even wavy).
As a person who was raised by Indian women. So many Indian women have fuzzy, long, thick and cruly hair. They straighten it to hide their true hair pattern. I guess this is the same for East Asian people as well.
One thing I didn't hear any of the Asian girls say is watching BLACK WOMEN using the curly girl method, big chop/ movement etc. thought them how to care for their curly hair. Unless I missed something there, please correct me if I'm wrong, I heard ZERO mention of Black hair/ Black WOMEN at all from their "journey." Another example of something we created but given ZERO CREDIT. It's as if the CGM fell into their lap out of nowhere.
Correct. And I heard zero black women talk about how they are using Asian technology. If you want entitlement, stop using our technology then. Because without Asians, there would be no one like you to complain about black culture.
Girl they said “foreigners” and to them black ppl are foreigners like it’s not that deep. Not to mention they also never disregard the fact that black women created this method nor said that it was created by a white woman. Stop with this cattiness why can’t we just be happy that other ppl are inspired and are using something that black women created!
@@itssosicktwisted3506 I can tell you’re white🤣 we are tired of hearing why don’t you just sit back and let people take from you and take again, don’t get upset because they are inspired by you. We have been demonized and ostracized for our hair, and now when other people do it and don’t give credit for someone thing that we sufferer hate from for so long is a smack in the face. Take several seats
@@itssosicktwisted3506 you had to bring white woman in there always inserting yourselves when nobody was even talking about y’all. Go “girl” somebody else
The slave trade in Indonesia did not involve African slaves but indigenous dark-skinned Asian peoples possibly trafficked from other parts of Asia, like the Philippines, in the trans-pacific slave trade. So all the Indonesians with curly hair are 100% Asian, unless they have known African or European history. Indigenous black Asians are as ancient a people as African peoples. I also found out recently that some black Americans may actually have indigenous Asian DNA from these people, and not just African DNA. Thanks for sharing. Wonderful presentation!
Wrong! The Adaman Island people left Africa 100k years ago and their descendants are the people in the Philippines Malaysia Australia and Japan, those dark skinned people were Africans who arrived in those lands and later mixed with Neanderthal/Dravidians and other humanoids .
@@SweetUareDesi you cant be that stupid. Just because someone is darkskinned doesnt mean they are black.would you call a darkskinned Indian black? or asian?
This puzzle is slowly coming together. I am a Zulu woman from South Africa and I am learning Korean because my boyfriend is korean and I want to be able to speak to his parents fluently. Now when I tell people that we share similar words and expressions and almost identical cultural practices, people look at me like I'm crazy. Sometimes my boyfriend and I say a Zulu or Korean term and translate it to English and we immediately understand what it means. Even though it makes no sense in English. Even the ideology is very african. Sometimes I'll look at a girl on the street in Korea and her features will remind me of a friend back at home. So far it makes no sense but I keep telling this to people.
Idk much about Zulu, BUT I do know I remember seeing a paper about the similarities between Shona (ZW) and Asian languages. As far features though, I will say the only explanation I can think of is the migration of Southeast Asians (Austronesian in particular) from Indonesia/PH/Malaysia to Madagascar.
Y’all wanna know what’s crazy? Andre Walker’s brother’s name is Bernard Walker and he is a Philosophy professor at Howard. He was my prof a while back and he used his brothers typing system to talk about perceptions of race. It was really enlightening
although i’m half asian and half white, i still got my wavy hair from my asian side (my great grandma). i had very light, straight and thin hair up until puberty, then suddenly i have these waves and incredibly thick hair. my hair was so dead, brittle, and puffy because there was no one to teach me how to care for it. since i’m mixed race, i often dealt with not “belonging” to either half- but i gravitate to my asian side. with that comes the beauty standards across asia. fair skin, big eyes, thin figure, and long straight black hair. i have NONE of these standards, but i wanted to conform to them so badly so i continued to straighten my hair with heat and perming for years. when visiting, my asian family would give me so many compliments over my “straight hair”. over quarantine i realized i needed to stop killing my hair. i tried so many products (that never gave good results) and my mom thought my hair was crazy. i still struggle with finding the right methods and products since asian hair doesn’t react well with curly products marketed online and in stores. after finding other asian influencers with wavy/curly hair, i feel ready again to embrace my wavy hair.
I’m so tired of black women not getting the credit we deserve and continuously being disrespected. To this day, black women are discriminated for our natural hair.
And y’all were wigs and gets perms to have bone straight hair like Asian ppl and white ppl plus just because they have curly hair they don’t need to credit black ppl for THEIR hair
I had no clue until I started investigating this story. I learned a lot. It goes to show how truly diverse the world is. Due to this video, I am always questioning how much do we really know about hair and how it pertains to race? I would definitely love to study this more.
SOMEPLACE DOWN THE LINE THEY WERE MIXED WITH AFRO BLOOD. THEY ARE JUST CLUELESS BECAUSE IT WAS A FEW GENERATIONS BACK! ITS NO ACCIDENTAL GENETIC PHENOMENON, GENETICALLY ASIANS HAVE THE MOST STAIGHT HAIR ON EARTH. ONLY COMBINING THE AFRO GENETICS CAN GET THAT TEXTURE. DO A GENETIC TEST AND I BET U 1000 DOLLARS THE BLACK HERITAGE SHOWS UP. ALSO, THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT, THEIR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS MAY BE FULLY AWARE, AND THEY CHOSE TO OMIT IT SO THEY CAN PASS!
Oh yes, Asian can have alls sorts of hair textures, but because the beauty standard is straight or permed hair most will opt for this instead of embracing their natural hair. I live in a mostly Asian community and I’ve seen them have pretty much every hair type. Yes, even type 4.
We're the only group of people who don't recognize how beautiful we truly are in our natural state. Wonder what the psychology is behind why we're trolled the most in the media but copied the most? Jealousy and Envy!!
So...the thing is, that most Asians actually do have curly hair naturally, but they straighten it. We, the people outside of their culture, weren't privy to that bit of info, so we just assumed that the way it was presented to us, was the way it grew out of their heads.
No, most Asians don't have curly hair. There are some but it's rare. You are seeing curly perms which started out being mostly popular among older people in Asia as a way to hide thinning hair but now it's more popular with younger people due to r&b/hip hop music and culture gaining more traction. All you need to do is to go some of these folks insta and look at pics from a year ago. They literally have curly tutorials on how to get it without perms, like the rubberband method. Look it up!
@@shanchan8247 thats simply not true. you can’t just make a false statement and present it as a fact. how are you going to generalize the entire asian continent and say that curly hair is rare when it is known that asians commonly use chemical treatments to get rid of curly/wavy hair…. when you get specific and look at certain regions curly/wavy hair becomes more prominent or more rare, but that isn’t always the case.
It's really inspiring to see that the natural hair movement was able to inspire non-black peoples to embrace their own natural hair. Usually when aspects of black culture are adopted by non-black people's it's of a degraded form, so it's really cool to see that the embracememt of one's natural selves has been spread from our own traditions.
I love seeing all of the women around the world embracing their natural hair whether as rebellion or self discovery as those of us in the United States. Love to all the curly girls around the globe.
Sooo, Asian women felt pressure to keep their curls & coils straightened. Well since that is the case, people need to stop giving black women guff about straightening their hair. As it is being shown here with Asian women, and what we(or i) have already known about white & Hispanic women, is that a lot of them with curly hair typically straighten it....just like black women do and have done. There have been certain pressures on all of us with curly hair to make it straight.
Loved this video! It is interesting to see comments from people of all different backgrounds who did not know Asian people could have wavy to curly hair. I think it goes to show that no group is a monolith and there is always diversity in the world. I am Chinese, born in Guangxi and adopted by white parents, so I assumed I always had straight hair and was stereotyped to have it. However, into puberty my hair became wavy. Many people think that East Asian people can only have straight hair, and that is certainly not true. There are so many ethnic groups in China that it is just ignorant to think everyone will look the same. South Asians, Southeast Asians, East Asians, and many more groups can have wavy and curly hair. In the Asian community there is a pressure to have straight silky hair, so it is no surprise that many people will have their hair chemically straightened and so forth. I wish the Asians who did get their hair permed gave credit to black people and not just some foreign influence on why they want their hair that way. I think we can all learn from each other. I am so grateful to the black curly hair community for educating me on how to better take care of my waves otherwise I would be walking around with a birds nest on my head! 😍
I am half Korean and half American. I grew up with hair different from everyone else in my family (my 3 sisters &mom). My sister's and mother all have the standard straight course thick black Asian hair.. growing up I didn't know anything about hair types and textures but I did feel the pressure to straighten my hair and it was obviously noticeable. People would ask me if I had a different dad than my sister's. Or ask why I permed my hair. Now that I am 30 I know my hair and it is 3a-3b. It is natural and it is not normal I don't think. My hair also changed and my curls got way tighter after I gave birth to my son..
American isn’t a race or ethnicity lol, what type of American are you? There’s Haitian Americans, African Americans, Mexican Americans, white Americans, native Americans, etc.
Black natural hair movement started with us because none of the hair care product was design for our hair…. Our hair is totally different why means we want our own
Key thing the female said in her IG post: “If you look back far enough” in regards to the connection of Africa and Asia. And this was before slavery. Historians, especially Europeans, tend to always start every African off at slavery because that’s the narrative they want to keep portraying when Africans have always been around the world particularly in Africa, Asia, and the Americas. Also, if you look back far enough, Asians were very much melanated people even as recent as the late 1800s and early 1900s (there’s a photo out there, amongst many others, of a mother, her newborn and two nurses and they were as dark as me but had the typical Chinese look). And if you look at the ancient caves, particularly in Dunhuang, China, the paintings on the walls show Chinese people that are dark skinned. One of China’s leading Geneticist, Prof. Li Jin was attempting to prove that Chinese people evolved independently BUT changed his stance once he realized that all Chinese people can trace their lineage back to Africa. My theory, Africans came first, then Asians, and lastly Europeans. Then Africans and Asians populated the so-called New World of the West together before colonization of Europeans which coincidentally took place in Africa (hit the hardest), Asia, and the Americas. People don’t realize this but the Suez Canal was built and created to divide Africa and Asia (and to control the trade route). And also people don’t know that there are Chinese accounts of Africans and Asians making their way over to the Americas for trade (likely bc they were dealing with familiar people) before the colonizing of the land.
I currently cut my hair mad short. I look at these pixie/ taper short hair trends and see the almost overwhelming use of relaxers for these short cuts. We still have an issue with the hair that grows out of our heads.
The jheri curls for regular black folks was created by Comer Cottrell, a black guy. It might be invented at first by a white guy, but it is perfectioned for black hair by Comer.
People of African descent migrated to Asia long before the times of the Portugese slave trade. I really loved hearing her family history though. I can't imagine how it was for her great great grand parents.
some people do but it's only those who are obsessed with hip hop and other aspects of black cultures. anybody else going for a..."softer" aesthetic wouldn't want to get it. it would "ruin" their look otherwise. that's what happens when you treat ppl's natural features like an aesthetic...😒
The "Natural hair movement " is a Black thing! Black hair has been despised in the United States because of Chattel slavery! When the Black is beautiful revolution began in the US in the 1960's it was to teach Black people to embrace their authentic selves. The Korean woman in this video looks like she has a perm. Anyway. We Black people need to stop inviting everyone to the Cookout and be ok with the natural hair movement being for us by us.
South Koreans are an interesting case, and will either help challenge the "white is right" cultural dynamic worldwide or cause heartburn for African Americans/black folks. Koreans consume more global pop culture than any other Asians. They are very dynamic with their own local trends but also adaptive with foreign trends. Here are some interesting cultural observations I've made over the years: -- Koreans have the highest percentage of Christians in Asia proper (not counting middle east etc) -- Korea produced the only globally known Asian "rapper" (PSY - before you laugh, he went quad platinum) -- Koreans created the first contemporary music sound from Asia (K-Pop) -- Koreans have trafficked in black culture (for good and bad (blackface)) -- Korea has a black person from Ghana as one of its most popular bonafide media celebrities (Okyere) -- Koreans are now doing Afrobeats (I was at a Burna Boy concert and met a whole crew of non-English speaking Koreans) -- And now, Koreans are "going natural" Make of it what you will
You know the reason i had to stop relaxing my hair is because i had a daughter she has the softest prettiest light brown blond curls and all she has to do is spray water on it. When she saw my hair relaxed she started saying mom i want my hair just like you. I dropped the relaxer so fast.
I have two Asian friends. One is Taiwanese. She straightens her curly roots because she hates them. The other friend is Chinese, she loves her curly hair. Growing up, my family was very close to a Chinese family. The three little girls had bone straight hair.
This is so interesting when people of other race are mimicking our hair because to them it’s stylist… not understanding it’s our own and heritage.. They want the black hair styles, culture when it’s convenient to them
It was nice to see a timeline of our collective Black hair journey! I thought it was interesting to see what the Latin and Asian women said, and how some Latinas tried to say race, skin color, and hair texture didn’t matter in their culture, while giving examples of how it did. 😂 I wish the women had credited Black women for TCG Method. It’s clear that this vid took a lot of work. I appreciate you.
Curly perms are indeed popular among Asian women, but I also learned that some Asian people have naturally curly hair. They perm/relax it in order to blend into society and avoid being judged. Please check out the links in my description box to view the resources I used make the claims in the video. Unfortunately, I could not place them in the video due to copyright. Thank you for commenting and sharing this information. I love learning and discussing things with commenters on UA-cam.
This is another fact that needs to be understood, Korea has always been a crossroads on the silk road. People from as far as Europe Iran and Africa have come to Korea to Settle. In my Mom's family alone she has ancestors from India and china. And i do know that there are families that have ancestors from west china or central Asia, Japan, India, Iran, Vietnam Mongolia and i am sure there were people from Africa that arrived in Korea, especially during the times when Korea was controlled by Mongolia. And this has been a thing for thousands of years. Koreans being racist and not mixing is actually the behavior that is bizarre and is something that is more brought in from the neighboring nations.
Earth Kitt, was the PERFECT, Cat woman! But the only problem is that she was Black, sexy and beautiful. So beautiful, that white women by the thousands! called in or wrote the head of the TV station Bat Man was shown, that they didn't want a "N" being Cat Woman! They soon replaced Miss Kitt, with a Whyte woman, who came no where near! what Eartha Kitt brought to that character! Can anybody say, " jealousy is a beast!"
I’m Korean with hella curly hair. I don’t look Korean either. I had double eyelids and a tall nose. Growing up my whole family said I was either adopted or my mom had some explaining to do. It hurt for awhile then I realized the whole world is a mix whatever.
Same 😂😂 as a Malaysian lady, having curly hair is very rare and whenever I go outside the old aunty on the street always thought I pay to do my hair and didn't believe me when I said it's natural.. even the hairdresser was shocked when they saw my hair cause they thought I perm it
They were doing this decades ago in Japan. I saw one dude get his hair kinked up to get dreads and another dude did the same and had a nice fade. There was also a “black lifestyle” trend in Japan and the women were making their hair kinky too.
I appreciated learning about people around the world learning to appreciate their curls. I didn't know about the slave trade in the country that you mentioned and never realized that Asians had curly hair. Thank you for the information. As a Black woman I learned to appreciate my curls years ago and stopped using perms and coloring to change my hair. I have salt and pepper curls now and get quite a few compliments on my hair. I wore my hair in a natural in the 60s and used UA-cam to relearn how to care for my hair. I am so appreciative of the girls who consistently show how to care for the curly hair. Some of them make it way too involved with the different products they use, but I have learned to simplify my hair care.; this saves me money and time.
I live in south korea....it is VERY RARE to actually see a korean with curly hair...the ones i have seen are very unnatural looking. I dont doubt there are some that have naturally curly hair but i have rarely ever saw a natural one...the other ones i've seen try to mimic 4c hair...which is not naturally occurring in asian women
From what I've seen in videos Koreans with anything but straight hair get something called a magic perms that makes their hair straight. Alot of Koreans are deciding to stop using it but there is no representation until recently so they are just now trying to learn how to upkeep hair that is not part of the beauty standards.
The movement was supposed to be about black women. Then all these other women want to come in and steal what we’ve started. We can’t have nothing for ourselves without other groups of people making it about themselves.
Huh? Envy who? No one is envying Europeans, at least I know this as a black woman. If you're talking about people using extensions because they can't manage their hair or to protect their hairstyles, I'll agree with you.
lol everyone in the comments crying that Black ppl arent getting credit for Asian hair…and at the same time clearly using the word Asian to describe one type of person, i.e. east Asian. im south asian and i have curly hair and honestly fully erasing some of us Asians from the discussion seems racist, whereas expecting an asian woman with curly kinky hair to give you credit for the hair that grows out of her head? sometimes you all do too much.
There is a blasian clay artist on Instagram who wore her hair straight and wasn’t getting views. She switched to wearing her fro and bam her views and followers grew damn near overnight. She must have been called on it because she deleted a handful of her straight hair photos.
To all the people complaining that they aren’t “giving black women credit”, you need a reality check: What do you expect them to do? List off the history every time they make content where they just explain how they take care of THEIR hair? Black women aren’t the only ones with curly hair, and they certainly didn’t become the only people making curly hair content. On the Internet, trends start and before you know it there will be loads of content on various issues. These women most likely saw other creators embrace their curls and they decided to give it a try. These people could have been ANY RACE. Because guess what? Black women aren’t the only ones who have been put down their whole lives for a different hair texture. Stop treating races like a collective entity where each one needs to “pay respects” and “give credit” to the other for basic things. It’s unrealistic, it’s childish, and in the case of where these ladies got their routines from, it’s most likely not even black women. Get over yourselves.
@Layla Caudle Other races can have type 4 hair I have no idea why you would think that. It’s unrealistic to have every person who isn’t black go on about the history of the movement when it’s just people trying to share how they take care of their hair. It’s not complicated, and races aren’t hiveminds who need to give each other anything. Stop looking at people for their race, just let people enjoy the process of learning about their hair, because at the end of the day, it’s not just black people who have been put down. It’s people with curly hair period.
this is kinda crazy considering how much black women and black ppl in general were bullied for their hair types but all of the sudden everybody wanna have curly hair like ours…
@@katarak4742 “she said curly hair like ours”??? 😂😂😂 if it grows out of their scalp, that’s their OWN hair. You weirdos.. man, that inferiority complex has you all so delusional
Honestly, I'm all for everyone around the world discovering and loving their natural hair. Diversity of textures in representation is good. I didn't even know it was possible for Asians to have hair like this. But think, there were people that didn't know black women chemically straightened their hair too, at some point. As long as we don't get erased, and people realize we have been fighting for this freedom for yearsss.
I see a lot of ppl in the comments talking about them saying “foreign” instead of “black” and them not giving credit but if I were to guess I’d say they don’t see the importance in giving black ppl credit bc they don’t understand that things are often stolen from us and that we are protective of the things we create. In Korea, anyone that isn’t Korean is called a foreigner so to them it’s not “black hair tips” it’s just “foreign hair tips” I’m not saying that they shouldn’t give credit bc of course after years of having everything we make stolen from us for the benefit of ppl other than us, they should respect our community and give credit. At the same time I feel like we should also understand that there’s a cultural difference here and Koreans don’t learn or understand all of the same things we do bc a lot of our ideals are foreign to them
i dont think that they don’t understand the importance of giving credit. i just think its the simple fact that they use foriegner and thats that. its not anything personal against black people and to them, they are giving credit, they just dont use the same terms we do.
@@YoYo-pi6sk The best hair on earth. Head lice/ parasites bugs, hates our hair and our hair texture protects our scalp from the hot sun/uv rays. Thank the God for kinky hair.
Sorry to shout it out loud but us, black people (African...) aren't the only ones to have curly yet coily hair and for God sake stop generalise things and assume that all Asians are the same. It isn't their fault if some of them are racist as well as we are sometimes. I beg cut the crap. Culture appreciation do exist
Yep there are lots of Asians with naturally curly hair. I’d say most have straight hair but there are LOTS with curly or wavy hair, they just keep it straight to assimilate.
This kinda reminds me of how TT went ape shit over BW with monolids and upturned eyes. A lot of races/ethnicities share common phenotypes idk why it’s hard to understand. One thing I will say is Koreans be studying AAs like no other, take it as a compliment lol.
A lot of ppl don't realize that asian and black culture are very close and alot of Asian countries are going through things now that black ppl faced centuries ago due to yt people. Things like Japanese straightening treatments are prominent in asian society today much like perms back then bc asian society is still conforming to the ideal "asian" woman who is very similar to yt'ness. We only see lightskinned Asians in media so much we forget about darskinned asian countries nd we assume things based on what we see when in reality many mainland and other Asians are curly haired (3a-4a usually )tanned and using bleaching products getting surgery ect and Asians who find it harder to conform are forgot about like pinoy, Cambodian, Indian, middle eastern.
Just so you know Asia have been doing stuff like hair straightening and skin lightening to fit their standards. White skin was praised because it meant you didn’t have to work in the fields which is where poor people got darker due to being out in the sun all’s at eb sue they had to work. Yes, Eurocentric beauty standards do play a part, but the desire for straight hair, large eyes, and white skin has been documented in Asian countries since before white people even set foot in Asia. It wasn’t until white people came along that they had a physical reference to compare their standards to. So while there are similarities between our situations, Asians are still pretty different than us.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 I am aware of this that's why I used the phrase "similar to yt'ness" as even though the base for the "ideal asian" woman in mainland asia is based on history, the modern day "ideal" woman around all of asia has many features based on yt people that weren't present back then in history Along with the constant advertising of yt women to want their "likeness". Like I said East asian women aren't the only asian women nd the appearance of them in the media is what most people think of Asia as a whole but their history is not everyones history and plays a small part in asia overall vs colonization as many asian countries outside of mainland asia share these ideals based on their colonial experience alone.
As this movement becomes mainstream, I feel like the beauty standard for hair will change, and black women with 4c hair will still be the less admired, because ppl will start view loos curly and wavy hair as the ideal hair beauty standard
I agree, hair too straight is thin and easly damaged and falls out and hair too thick is too kinky grows up and not down and is hard to manage, everyone is looking for that medium Type 2 and Type 3 hair.
Gotta stop speaking evil girl..if you want change speak change...it's like saying my big lips will never be beautiful but let a KK put it on her and it's gorg and trendy!
Asian women using curly styles is not being natural. They’re being UNnatural. The natural hair among most Asian women is Type 1 a very few Type 2a. They’re doing today what we type 1 and 2 did back in the eighties. I’m a type 2b and remember in the 1980s the perms (to get abundant curly hair) were very famous. Look at the movie “Working Girl” with Melanie Griffith. In my case I just needed to wash it and let it dry in the air to get the style but my friends with type 1 and 2a spent hours in the salon with a bunch of mini rollups and spray 😂. Then the 90s reversed to everybody with flat ironed hair.
I disagree. The curl was our way of trying to get a "mixed" look. We did not verbalize it but that is what we wanted. We liked them best when freshly done. It looked more natural cause lack of new growth caused the same uniform look and easily combable. In fact, when they were dry, they looked like an afro (which was undesirable)
Edmund sylvers did not have a curl. It was his natural hair not brushed and blown out to a fro
There have always been wigs. In the fifties, everyday black women wore wigs. Most of the black women in movies and TV had a wig or fall. This continued into the seventies. They even had afro wigs. Entertainers and everyday black women wore weaves and wigs. Weaves we're big for even short haired styles. In the 90s, we wore weaves that looked natural. It amazes me in comment sections that even women can't tell that we wore weaves. The difference between them and today is that many of us tried to make them look like they grew from our scalp. My hair blended in with the tracks. In the eighties and nineties, we used glue. I got my first weave in the nineties. The first two times, bonded it. Afterwards, got them seen in.
The natural hair movement never died. I would see women and girls wear their hair in their natural state in the eighties. I went natural in nineties while in college at an hbcu. It was popular in NYC, DMV, atl, and black colleges in the 90s. If you look at music videos in the eighties and nineties, you will see natural models.
Asian peoples come from the Khoisan people of South Africa thousands of yrs ago. Also, during the transatlantic slave trade, people were taken from west and south Africa then taken to the Americas. The khoi people are from south Africa. There are many black Americans that have slanted/monolid eyes. They may also have a serious hourglass figure. Maybe lightskin. Short stature. These are phenotypes of khoi women. Khoi women do not have Asian DNA. It is thought that khoi and Madagascan people migrated to Asia and Melanesia
Thank you for the correction. I could not find a lot of proper articles/ journalism when looking up this topic. Unfortunately, there is not a lot of resources when looking into the history of black hair in The United States, and those that I did find implied what I stated in this video. This often leaves 1st and 2nd generation African Americans like myself to have to rely on information provided by mainstream media and large corporations. I will pin this comment to use as a resource.
@@DynamicTouch I understand fully. Sis, your humbleness has me in awe of you.
I also wanted to inform you that there were a number of girls and ladies that were natural but got their hair pressed. At one time, I got silk presses. It looked like a relaxer but was very bouncy. There were many naturals like that. We would get our hair done every two months.
@@ertfgghhhh Thanks so much! I always feel as though I can learn from others.
Thanks for the insight! I kind of felt that this was the case (Concerning silk presses) when looking at photos from that time, but I wasn't sure. Now I know for sure. I really feel as though we keep repeating the hair wheel. History is definitely repeating itself.
@@DynamicTouch *if meant to say we would get our hair pressed every 2 weeks. That was the thing if u could afford it.
U are right about how we keep repeating ourselves. It is because we do not change the core of our problem-self hate. We hate ourselves. We hate our african hair. We would do anything to make it "straighter'(less kinky, more curly or wavy) . we want the mixed look. Plz look into the new $800 "jerri curls" they have. They have to get it every 2-3 months. Smh. They could buy homes and real estate at those prices
@LIONESS PROUD untrue we coined the phrase "creamy crack" referring to relaxers in the 80s. Because it harmed our scalps and strands. You will see various artists in 90s- Shane, brandy, rage, Badu, Lauryn hill, Jill Scott and many more tout natural hairstyles and solely braids. There were also songs talking about our hair, skin, and self love. It sparked a whole movement and genre- neo soul....
There were also natural salons in the 90s. How do I know? Cause I went to them and I'm in nc- which was slower than Cali, dmv, Hampton roads, atl, and up north. If you are my age, maybe you didn't catch on. I have only lived in areas with hbcus. There were MANY adults who did not have a relaxer. And there were many afrocentric ados who along with their family, that were natural. And we rocked daishikis and African fabrics in the 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s. It is not a fad for us
Maybe you or your family/assoc did not catch on or pay attention to us. I was in no way a natural unicorn...
I grew up in a mostly asian neighborhood and I think a lot of non asian folks don't get that yes some Asian people do indeed have curly hair, they just straighten it and heat train it to the point where you usually don't actually see their curls until they get older and like a lot of women when they age, cut their hair and do less to it. I see black women inspiring people of all races who have natural hair to wear their natural hair as a positive.
Yes well, those Asian women in the video instead of saying that they were inspired by black women they keep using the word foreign. Which really pissed me the hell off. Only one said she was inspired by an African-American woman that cut her hair off
@@aanyamallick7747 exactly...they're the same people to make money off of black women (from hairstyles) and treat us like trash by accusing us of stealing and being rude. They don't respect or like us for the most part. Can't even pay homage properly even when its BLATANT who they are trying to imitate.
this is why I don't support things like k-pop because k-pop stars do the exact same thing...
I hate this I really do am afro Asian and I have curly hair everyone in my family that is asian has curly hair 😭😭
@@aanyamallick7747 are you aware that there are afro asians??
@@Snookyboo am sorry you went through this but hell am an afro asian and still didn't like me 🤣😂🤣🤣😂
In summary, Black women, y’all don done it again! Look at your beautiful selves inspiring even people that tried to make you hate yourselves to love themselves. You are the true blue print and here are the long overdue flowers they refused to give you💐💐🌹🌺
Mixed women , black women rarely have curly hair
@@Angel.50 stupid assumption and irrelevant opinion.
Sincerely,
Black woman with curly hair that knows other non-mixed black women with curly hair.
The Original Woman yessss!!
AMEN!!!!
@@Angel.50 b!tch you under every mf comment with this bs. Go some damn where 🙄
Tbh some of them are natural but most of them are perms. I remember going to school with a Asian girl who permed her hair and tried to pass it off as her own. She was one of those Filipinos that imitated everything about black culture, until one day she stopped and it was because her mom didn't want to pay for them anymore. Eventually she confessed that she wanted black people hair.
😭😭😭🤣🤣
@@worthytv7718 😂😂😂 she got roasted
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"Not funny ha ha, funny weird" lmaooo
@@stripedsweater520 lmao 😂😂
Sandra Oh proudly wears her hair in its curly state. If you think she’s the only Asian woman with a curl pattern you’re mistaken. A lot of Asian women are hiding their natural hair texture, just like black women have and still do. Curly hair, darker skin and dark eyes are dominant traits but that fact alone isn’t enough for millions of people to love themselves.
Black women don’t hide their texture. It’s just versatile
I think a lot of Asian women just legitimately don’t know their hair is textured. I see a lot of Asian women with big frizzy hair that looks “straight”, but it’s probably curly or wavy. I’m white and Asian and I thought that my hair texture must’ve come from my white side because it’s not straight, but then I looked closer at my own Asian mom’s hair lol.
The fact that there are still aboriginal tribes of African types throughout Asia can account for a deeper lineage than the slave trade story.
@@gummy5862 yall are not like us though. Being half white half black, the hair is textured regardless. No offense but asians and whites have very basic hair, it isnt like ours
@@trxphywaifalt what are you talking about
I hate these comments about curly perms. As someone whose lived in Korea, the amount of my Korean friends who have openly told me that they have really curly hair but hide it with straight perms is A LOT.
Korean people have straight up told me that many of them actually have curly hair but hide it really well. I’ve seen relaxed looking hair so many times while out and about too.
Yea right
Mhmm...
It's not like ppl are lying about curly perms in the grommets because most of this is actually true, well at least where I am in the U.S
@@liisamazingayye6710 they're not lying in the comments. Most people in Korea have naturally straight hair. That is just a fact and I find it weird that black women keep trying to force curly hair on to them. I live in korea too and some women/girls do have hair that looks like black women with a relaxer and their hair is definitely curly but it's just a fact that the vast majority of people here have straight hair. Some have wavy hair which they don't distinguish from curly.
@@LethalLemonLime bruh wtf are you talking about waying black women are forcing curly hair on them. I said PERMS. everyone knows that most Koreans have straight hair naturally but the fact that some get it to mimick black hair is a problem. you're weird
Okay so I'm half Korean, and I'm going to add what i know. There are Koreans with curly hair, my Grandfather my Uncle and mother have curly hair but it's nothing like African hair. And a lot of people have perms. Korean people tend to have some unusual phenotypes as compared to other east Asian people. You see folks with green and grey eyes people with dark brown hair dark skin(but not as dark as some of us, more like philipino dark or Mexican dark) and you see curly and wavy hair that looks permed though it's natural. But they don't have a a 3b to 4c hair type unless their are African ancestors in the bloodline. Korean natural hair movement is a whole stunt and show. Because the natural traditional hair that was used before western products were introduced is well documented and the Chinese knew Korean women as having very thick lustrous hair. I can even describe the the haircare of women during that time. First there was no shampoo or conditioner s. Koreans used a plaster made of mung beans as they have saponins and the solids acted as an exfoliant, Chinese and Arabian soaps were imported, and common people used water and most people used rivers to bathe in. Women who were of status bathed in wooden tubs and they cleaned their hair that way. Perfumes were usually flowers, cinnamon, star anise , imported perfumes and exotic oils and women during that last kingdom perfumed the water they bathed in as well as the oil they put in their hair. They also bathed often fully clothed, but commoners many times were nude. Their hair was parted in the middle and girls wore a ponytail and women wore a low bun with a hair pin. Camelia oil was the popular oil to use but i do know other oils were used. Because Joseon the last kingdom was so conservative women did not much more than this. The entertainers usually wore wigs and the royals did too, until a ban was implemented. So women regardless of texture or class usually just cleansed or rinsed with green tea or other types of teas, oiled the hair, used a comb almost like a flea comb, parted it and put it in a pony tail or bun, and left it alone. And that's how it would grow. Also many women didn't wash their hair deeply except for once a year or unless they just really need to clean up. Such as when the queen has a night planned with the king. This is why I'm rolling my eyes at Korean Women trying to adopt African methods when a whole traditional system works and is in place. It's one thing to modify, or utilize the wisdom of another culture but it's giving me black fishing vibes. Makes no damned sense. It's like us trying to use European methods and standards to keep our hair healthy. It won't work. No matter what these people try they will never be Black. But hey if it makes them happy oh well.
thanks for coming through with the info 💕
This
@@ameera.abubakr hots to! I put my people first my BLACK people!
@@rutho.6282 All of it! I'm sitting here dying! I mean i guess if they see our beauty....but I'm just like why the lies? If they want to use our products, they don't need to do all this. It's crazy a f. Kinda of creepy actually.
Thanks for the info , I didn't know many of these
🎀Despite this, none of them could utter the word,”Black.” That the curly hair tips they were getting to master their hair was from,”black creators.” Instead they used the word,”foreign.” 😤 Not one of them can credit where they got help and inspiration from. How hard can it be?🎀
That was a bit annoying
One of the lady did talk about bing inspired to shave her hair because she saw an African American lady do it.
It's called jealously
It's called a curly perm aswell........thier trying to make a statement if bw can where thier perm to make it straight then we can where a curly perm to make thiers curly...majority of naturally straight hair ppl with curly hair it's a curly perm...but the tension is on bw hair
That’s because in asia anyone who isn’t Asian is called a foreigner. That’s just how they talk, so it’s nothing personal.
I don't care just give black women their flowers. We're the ones that have been kicked down, mocked, insulted because of our type 4 hair by the world. Which can range from kinks, coils and thick thick afros. The world did not see the beauty and lied to us about it and we have had to support each other and see the beauty in our God given natural hair. Ppl want our rhythm but never our blues. KMT.
So Korean women weren’t? This beauty standard was probably strongly enforced by colonial influence. I find solace in the fact we’ve been through the same things
some of yall are such weirdos. did u know u can support multiple things 😂
Thank you, I was looking for this comment.
@@amphoteric they act like it's a competition or something😭
@@sillycheese301 Fr I’m black and I am disappointed in this, we should stand together not think it’s a competition. You’re just an embarrassment to black women, you should help and uplift others who want to get to their roots like us. We were both robbed of our roots so why not help each other, not have pride make your decision, if we were mocked, insulted, and kicked down, and we still wear our hair naturally out, just imagine their country’s? It must be hard for them not having a support to wear their hair out, we should help them not hold a grudge! I don’t know who told you to make our race higher than others but it sounds a whole lot like the ones who “mocked, insulted, and kicked us down”. You should check yourself before commenting something like that, it’s just sad.
The thing that bothers me is that they are not crediting black the creators they are learning from.
Curly hair isn't only for black people and they didn't invent all the methods there are
@ spuf lober Hello! This video was made with the purpose to show how the Natural Hair Movement (created by Black Americans) inspired modern-day Natural Hair Movements (there are now Natural Hair Movements across Eurasia, the Americas, Africa, and Australia). Yes, many of these techniques are based off of Black American techniques. They were molded and changed a bit to fit those who have looser or wavier hair types. There is nothing wrong with giving credit where credit is due. Black Americans also created Hip Hop, R and B, B-Boying, Beat Boxing, and so many other things that has affected many worldwide. At the same time, I am sure your country has also inspired and sparked creativity in others as well. I am sure If someone took from your culture, you would like to be credited. Also, it's not all black people, it was Black Americans who created this movement and these techniques. As someone of African descent, I have also learned the importance of giving Black Americans credit where credit is due. Thanks for stopping by our channel! What is something about your country or culture that has inspired others around the world, I would love to know since I like learning about other cultures.
why should we credit them? we do our hair for ourselves and our self care. i don’t think black creators doing their hair is crediting others. it’s because everyone’s hair has a diffrent routine
@@jalo7289 Hi! I don't think this is a proper analogy. If I went to India and started using their hair routine (from the various cultural groups) but made a new brand that claimed that I invented these techniques, I am sure Indian people would be offended. If I take from Indian traditional haircare, I always make sure to mention it. Why? Because it is wrong to steal from others without stating the root of my inspiration. I would state "My routine is inspired by Indian traditional haircare that was tweaked and molded to fit kinky, coily curly hair". I do not think adding a sentence like this to your product description/or website is an unreasonable request. It literally can be resolved with one or two sentences.
@@DynamicTouch
but it works for their hair. no hair care routine is the same. everyone’s hair is diffrent even black womens hair. i never see blk women crediting another for a hair care routine. they just do it. or do the most trending styles.
This is sooo cool! Especially to see how we as BW influence people around the world. Their hair is beautiful.
Your absolutely correct! The natural hair community has grown so much in influence and has become a blessing to so many, even those from other walks of life.
@Mimi Gurl shut yo azz up. How are you hating from outside the club? 😭
@Mimi mixed race people of color who identify as black have always existed in America. 😕 What, we know that already. Most of y'all are in our families...just like in mine. So, we know that.
I really don't get what your message is. 🤔
Right now, the summation of it is coming off kind of like: "black women created the natural hair movement, but biracials, mixed, and non-black women are doing it better than bw. Plus, black women left it anyway, while we're still here killing it.
So, haha 😸 , take that black women."
That is how your comment came off, sounding rather rude, and kind of implying that all of those different groups of women you listed are superior to bw because they are doing what bw created better.
No one would say something like that to other groups of women about something that they created.
Imagine someone saying to Asian women; Asians created kimonos, but biracials, mixed and non-asian women came along wearing them and are killing it. We wearing it better than them, plus Asian women left it. We are still here wearing them.
Most people would not think that is okay. However, it's deemed more than okay to do this to black women.
Also, biracials are biracials. They aren't black, white or whatever else they are combined with. They are just biracial.
@Mimi I know that biracials are in a different category than mixed people. That's why I separated them before, biracials, mixed & non-bw.
I know that there are generational mixed people too. Although, if you are all of those things you named, why not just call yourself mixed? Why Identify with black at all?
If more mixed race people did that, it would force society to put them in their own category. They would no longer just be classified as just black.
About the jealousy of bw with type4 hair towards black identified mixed race women with type3 hair, it's not just the bw with type4 who are jealous of them.
There are plenty of mixed race women who also have type 4 hair, with even some biracials having type 4 hair too...like doja cat for example.
A lot of those women(with tighter curl patterns)are jealous of women who have looser curl patterns as well, despite the race of the woman.
So, that has less to do with them being mixed race than it does the hair texture itself. Especially, since there are non mixed bw who also have type 3 hair.
The whole mixed race thing is a rabbit hole though. If you ask 100 people what is a mixed race person, you will probably get nearly 100 different answers. Likewise, if you ask 100 people (specifically black people) what a black person is, you will still get nearly 100 different answers.
Honestly, a lot of bw(AA) could technically be put in the mixed race category since so many of us have different things in our lineage...a lot of us don't even know what all is there.
I guess that's why an African lady in the comments once said: some people in Africa refer to AA women as mixed.
You mentioned bw overlooking type 3 hair in other communities, umm why would they not?
If the movement was created for women(bw) with kinkier tighter curled hair, why would they be thinking about looser curls.
So, Yeah that is why they get overlooked.
That, and the fact that although they also had to deal with pressures to conform by straightening their hair, and they also struggled to love what naturally grew out their heads, there is one difference.
The difference is that now that they have learned these methods, their hair types are slowly starting to be accepted.
4c hair....short 4c hair with no curl pattern, not so much, which is also a part of the jealousy you mentioned.
Another reason for the jealousy you spoke of, I forgot to mention this before, is because women with tighter curls & kinks do not seem to benefit from a movement for tighter curl patterns as much as looser curl patterns; the
women with looser curl patterns are becoming the face of the movement that was created for women with tighter curl patterns.
That typically tends to upset people, when someone becomes the face or gets credit for something that they created, and then they get pushed to the wayside concerning their own creation.
It is also probably why a good portion of them didn't really want others, or certain curl types, in the natural hair movement.
They knew that is what would happen. It happens pretty much every time bp create something.
Sometimes it’s really just an Afro wig they have on. Saw a Thai lady here in Thailand with one but sis liked the culture just not when a real Black woman walked in 😂
When my daughter started wearing her hair natural, we lived in Southern Africa. Her hair was a large afro and she is light skinned and people would laugh and stare at her. I would get so angry because her hair straight, was down her back while the folks there were either in wigs or using relaxer that was so strong it couldn't help but break your hair as it was all super strength and it was hard to find neutralizer. We have been brainwashed to hair anything that isn't white, meanwhile person after person on social media engages in Blackfishing!
I mean it would look a little funny seeing someone who looks white in an afro...
@@annabambamjerky its not funny, a lighter skinned black person doesn't look white. You exposed your bad thinking.
Where in southern Africa?
In South Africa we have white people with 4c hair so it's quite normal
@@pridentandane1080 white people cannot have 4c hair, stop it! Genetically its impossible.
@@annabambamjerky a lightskin doesn’t look
White. If they look white then they are wiener majority white or half white, which is not Lightskin.
There's a YT video of a BWoman who lives in Asia and she visited a salon where Amen using perms to accomplish an *afro* they had the nerve to ask her how did _SHE get her hair like THEIRS_ 😒 she replied "mine grows out my head this way" the (fake) shook look on their faces😳 🤦🏽♀️
Were can I watch that video
where is this video?
^?
The case got thrown out because they thought an African American woman was copying Bo Derek, a Caucasian woman wearing an African hairstyle?? Please do a video on this whole Bo Derek situation! 13:15
A lot of people say they didn't know Asian people could have curly hair and to be honest, I can't really blame them because I didn't know that I had curly hair myself. I'm South Asian and my parents are from Sri Lanka and we live in Northern Europe. Here the air is incredibly dry and gets really cold in the winter which is not ideal for a curly hair type. My hair was wavy when younger, but it's close to being completely straight now. I went to Sri Lanka and stayed there for 2 and a half weeks during the hottest months of the year which was March and April that would have temperatures reaching 40℃ and more, but most importantly, be incredibly humid. I noticed something surprising to me. Before going there, it was winter where I live and it was -4℃ and my hair was type 1A. But during the first week in Sri Lanka my hair changed drastically, going from 1A to 3A. During the latter part of my stay, the hair change didn't get as drastic and only went from 3A to 3B. After getting home I washed my hair and blow dried it and went straight back to 1A within 2 days only. I wonder how much curlier my hair would've gotten if I stayed there longer. Who knows? Maybe I could've had 3C or even 4A type hair if stayed there for like a half a year to a year. A lot of South Asians have been so desensitized to media portrayal of us around the world that we have forgotten how we all actually look like and now struggle to find our way back. Either way, I won't live in Sri Lanka since I'm only biologically native and not native to it culturally. I was born and raised in a very different country and I plan om living hear which means I probably won't have my actual natural biological hair. So my regular hair type is 1A, but it's actually 3A/B.
Hey you're probably overtyping your curlier hair. You're probably a wavy (like 2B/2C). I'm saying this because my hair behaved the same way in extremely cold climates when it was damaged. I'd suggest you look into styling products that can trap water in your hair in cold climates, like a leave in or mousse.
Yeah I've faced this too. My hair is a 2b/2c/3a mix. When Im in colder temp, my hair looks close to a flawless blowout. When the climate becomes highly humid, it turns more curly with a bit of Frizz
@@psi9899 Midway through the first 2 weeks it was already 2B/2C. My hair started to get curlier even after that. Just like the comment below you, I had a mix between 3 hair types. It was 2C/3A and a little bit of 3B. I do use moisturizer gel and sometimes oil to keep the gel in, but even then, it's not as effective as in being in the natural environment for my hair.
I think this is great for the naturally curly girlies. It shows how we've influenced hair so much☺️
South Korea is full of foreigners from the African diaspora so it make sense for her to learn more about her natural hair. I'm happy for her.
South Korea is full of foreigners from the African diaspora? I was not aware. Was this pre or post trans Atlantic slave trade?
Black women are the BLUEPRINT!!!
We should feel so much pride that we sparked a wave of people being themselves!!! #Goblackwomen!!!!
Foreal!😂 #WeAreTheBlueprint 💁🏾♀️💃🏾
Amazing! Yep so sad all people of color have this hidden mind condition standard of Europe beauty standards!
Literally 👏🏾💯
@@GiGi-Bee we always are 😌
💯💯
Curly and kinky hair are rarity if we're talking east asian. In the past few years there's ALSO been an increase in them getting perms to mimic an even tighter kinkier texture.... and some of them claiming as their own. 👀 Sure there are a few who have the texture, but the vast majority... js.
I agree girl lol
Exactly! Curly hair is a rarity for Asians just as naturally straight hair is rare for black people. It does happen but let's not pretend it is the norm. I'm even noticing that now in historical dramas, non black directors are incorporating box braids as though they been wearing them when we know that's not true. I've seen some Chinese films and films with Vikings suddenly with box braids.....what ever happened to being proud of who you are and where you come from?
@@shanchan8247 I’ve noticed these things in non-black historical dramas
Yooo like? If naturally curly hair was that common here (South Korea) people would not be getting curly perms on the reg. I honestly think curly perms are performed more than magic straights. And magic straights are usually done on wavy hair (which is still called 곱슬머리 regardless of how loosely or tightly the hair is curled. Which gives even more insight to how rare curly hair is that they only had one word for it and if you naver it, it shows koreans with loosely wavy hair).
I remember watching a documentary when I was into Gal subculture in the 2000-2010s in Japan which should still be on UA-cam. They really inspired by African American culture which was marketed to them. A lot of them don’t discover their curls until they hit puberty.
Can you link me to that documentary? I'm writing an article on Gal subculture and I’ve noticed how influenced they were by black culture too.
@@jiminstinyhands7776 I would also like to know the documentary
@@jiminstinyhands7776 @Adetomi Akinitan It might get deleted so look up “Black Lifestyle in Japan.”
@@Ash2theB thanks much!
We are NOT Afr Americans. We were ALWAYS here. And thats been proven many times. Research n stop letting them LIE to you....
So non mixed Asian people can have curly/kinky hair??? I... feel so ignorant 😂😂
I honestly thought they could only have straight to wavy hair, not actual coils and curls.
I live in a mostly Asian city and I’ve seen them have all sorts of hair textures. Some even had hair kinkier than mine and they are full Asian.
Keep in mind they also have curly perms like white people because afro textures is an aesthetic to them that makes them stand out.
@@American_negroid_woman Yes, I've heard about curly perms! But there seems to be a section of non mixed Asian people that have naturally curly hair that they use a permanent straightener to hide and 'fit in'. And I'm genuinely shocked. Asians (aside from Indians) are very much a minority where in my country, and I don't even know any in real life. So all the Asians I've ever seen have straight hair (not even wavy).
@@American_negroid_woman yea, I've met enough Korean people that assume that black hair is a perm lol
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 mmm I don't know. They have perms to match 4c hair
As a person who was raised by Indian women. So many Indian women have fuzzy, long, thick and cruly hair. They straighten it to hide their true hair pattern.
I guess this is the same for East Asian people as well.
One thing I didn't hear any of the Asian girls say is watching BLACK WOMEN using the curly girl method, big chop/ movement etc. thought them how to care for their curly hair. Unless I missed something there, please correct me if I'm wrong, I heard ZERO mention of Black hair/ Black WOMEN at all from their "journey." Another example of something we created but given ZERO CREDIT. It's as if the CGM fell into their lap out of nowhere.
Correct. And I heard zero black women talk about how they are using Asian technology. If you want entitlement, stop using our technology then. Because without Asians, there would be no one like you to complain about black culture.
Girl they said “foreigners” and to them black ppl are foreigners like it’s not that deep. Not to mention they also never disregard the fact that black women created this method nor said that it was created by a white woman. Stop with this cattiness why can’t we just be happy that other ppl are inspired and are using something that black women created!
@@itssosicktwisted3506 I can tell you’re white🤣 we are tired of hearing why don’t you just sit back and let people take from you and take again, don’t get upset because they are inspired by you. We have been demonized and ostracized for our hair, and now when other people do it and don’t give credit for someone thing that we sufferer hate from for so long is a smack in the face. Take several seats
@@itssosicktwisted3506 you had to bring white woman in there always inserting yourselves when nobody was even talking about y’all. Go “girl” somebody else
@@yellowgecko2772 who said im white?
The slave trade in Indonesia did not involve African slaves but indigenous dark-skinned Asian peoples possibly trafficked from other parts of Asia, like the Philippines, in the trans-pacific slave trade. So all the Indonesians with curly hair are 100% Asian, unless they have known African or European history. Indigenous black Asians are as ancient a people as African peoples. I also found out recently that some black Americans may actually have indigenous Asian DNA from these people, and not just African DNA. Thanks for sharing. Wonderful presentation!
You are black/brown if your complexion isn’t white. Your comment doesn’t make sense
@@SweetUareDesi no not every darkskinned person is black or brown
@@zannys5133 you must be slow. So how many races are there? Lmao TF
Wrong! The Adaman Island people left Africa 100k years ago and their descendants are the people in the Philippines Malaysia Australia and Japan, those dark skinned people were Africans who arrived in those lands and later mixed with Neanderthal/Dravidians and other humanoids .
@@SweetUareDesi you cant be that stupid. Just because someone is darkskinned doesnt mean they are black.would you call a darkskinned Indian black? or asian?
This puzzle is slowly coming together. I am a Zulu woman from South Africa and I am learning Korean because my boyfriend is korean and I want to be able to speak to his parents fluently. Now when I tell people that we share similar words and expressions and almost identical cultural practices, people look at me like I'm crazy. Sometimes my boyfriend and I say a Zulu or Korean term and translate it to English and we immediately understand what it means. Even though it makes no sense in English. Even the ideology is very african. Sometimes I'll look at a girl on the street in Korea and her features will remind me of a friend back at home. So far it makes no sense but I keep telling this to people.
This is absolutely true…there are alot of similarities in SA features and Asian features. Even alot of Nigerians have those “asian” eyes.
Idk much about Zulu, BUT I do know I remember seeing a paper about the similarities between Shona (ZW) and Asian languages. As far features though, I will say the only explanation I can think of is the migration of Southeast Asians (Austronesian in particular) from Indonesia/PH/Malaysia to Madagascar.
@@rosepetals6895 it’s not asian but african. Anyway y’all really are self hating.
So are u basically saying they’re African or what
@@wildearth3992 they’re not self hating they’re just staring their similarities
Y’all wanna know what’s crazy? Andre Walker’s brother’s name is Bernard Walker and he is a Philosophy professor at Howard. He was my prof a while back and he used his brothers typing system to talk about perceptions of race. It was really enlightening
although i’m half asian and half white, i still got my wavy hair from my asian side (my great grandma). i had very light, straight and thin hair up until puberty, then suddenly i have these waves and incredibly thick hair. my hair was so dead, brittle, and puffy because there was no one to teach me how to care for it. since i’m mixed race, i often dealt with not “belonging” to either half- but i gravitate to my asian side. with that comes the beauty standards across asia. fair skin, big eyes, thin figure, and long straight black hair. i have NONE of these standards, but i wanted to conform to them so badly so i continued to straighten my hair with heat and perming for years. when visiting, my asian family would give me so many compliments over my “straight hair”. over quarantine i realized i needed to stop killing my hair. i tried so many products (that never gave good results) and my mom thought my hair was crazy. i still struggle with finding the right methods and products since asian hair doesn’t react well with curly products marketed online and in stores. after finding other asian influencers with wavy/curly hair, i feel ready again to embrace my wavy hair.
We taught them how to fry chicken and now we’re teaching them to do their natural curly hair
No, asians have been frying food since before they even knew us black folks existed. Let’s not spread misinformation now.
I’m so tired of black women not getting the credit we deserve and continuously being disrespected. To this day, black women are discriminated for our natural hair.
And y’all were wigs and gets perms to have bone straight hair like Asian ppl and white ppl plus just because they have curly hair they don’t need to credit black ppl for THEIR hair
WHY DID I NOT KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR NONMIXED ASIANS TO HAVE CURLY HAIR?!
I had no clue until I started investigating this story. I learned a lot. It goes to show how truly diverse the world is. Due to this video, I am always questioning how much do we really know about hair and how it pertains to race? I would definitely love to study this more.
SOMEPLACE DOWN THE LINE THEY WERE MIXED WITH AFRO BLOOD. THEY ARE JUST CLUELESS BECAUSE IT WAS A FEW GENERATIONS BACK! ITS NO ACCIDENTAL GENETIC PHENOMENON, GENETICALLY ASIANS HAVE THE MOST STAIGHT HAIR ON EARTH. ONLY COMBINING THE AFRO GENETICS CAN GET THAT TEXTURE. DO A GENETIC TEST AND I BET U 1000 DOLLARS THE BLACK HERITAGE SHOWS UP. ALSO, THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT, THEIR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS MAY BE FULLY AWARE, AND THEY CHOSE TO OMIT IT SO THEY CAN PASS!
I didn't know until I married my husband his father's side has curly hair. I always jokingly ask "you sure your dad ain't mixed"😂
Oh yes, Asian can have alls sorts of hair textures, but because the beauty standard is straight or permed hair most will opt for this instead of embracing their natural hair. I live in a mostly Asian community and I’ve seen them have pretty much every hair type. Yes, even type 4.
.. I also saw a vid of a guy with bone straight hair “get an Afro” .. they are learning 😢
We're the only group of people who don't recognize how beautiful we truly are in our natural state. Wonder what the psychology is behind why we're trolled the most in the media but copied the most? Jealousy and Envy!!
So...the thing is, that most Asians actually do have curly hair naturally, but they straighten it. We, the people outside of their culture, weren't privy to that bit of info, so we just assumed that the way it was presented to us, was the way it grew out of their heads.
No, most Asians don't have curly hair. There are some but it's rare. You are seeing curly perms which started out being mostly popular among older people in Asia as a way to hide thinning hair but now it's more popular with younger people due to r&b/hip hop music and culture gaining more traction. All you need to do is to go some of these folks insta and look at pics from a year ago. They literally have curly tutorials on how to get it without perms, like the rubberband method. Look it up!
Asians dont have 3bc hair tf most curly they can have is wavy 2abc hair
@@shanchan8247 thats simply not true. you can’t just make a false statement and present it as a fact. how are you going to generalize the entire asian continent and say that curly hair is rare when it is known that asians commonly use chemical treatments to get rid of curly/wavy hair…. when you get specific and look at certain regions curly/wavy hair becomes more prominent or more rare, but that isn’t always the case.
@@koo-core7274 seems like everyone in this comment section is doing that
It’s beautiful that all women and men are enjoying their natural hair
The aforementioned Chaeso did a DNA test and is 100% East Asian. She's somewhere around 50% Korean, 28% Chinese, 20% Japanese and 2% Mongolian.
Michele and i read the Afromentioned lol!
They are finally accepting themselves, I see.
It's really inspiring to see that the natural hair movement was able to inspire non-black peoples to embrace their own natural hair. Usually when aspects of black culture are adopted by non-black people's it's of a degraded form, so it's really cool to see that the embracememt of one's natural selves has been spread from our own traditions.
I love seeing all of the women around the world embracing their natural hair whether as rebellion or self discovery as those of us in the United States. Love to all the curly girls around the globe.
Sooo, Asian women felt pressure to keep their curls & coils straightened.
Well since that is the case, people need to stop giving black women guff about straightening their hair.
As it is being shown here with Asian women, and what we(or i) have already known about white & Hispanic women, is that a lot of them with curly hair typically straighten it....just like black women do and have done.
There have been certain pressures on all of us with curly hair to make it straight.
Loved this video! It is interesting to see comments from people of all different backgrounds who did not know Asian people could have wavy to curly hair. I think it goes to show that no group is a monolith and there is always diversity in the world. I am Chinese, born in Guangxi and adopted by white parents, so I assumed I always had straight hair and was stereotyped to have it. However, into puberty my hair became wavy. Many people think that East Asian people can only have straight hair, and that is certainly not true. There are so many ethnic groups in China that it is just ignorant to think everyone will look the same. South Asians, Southeast Asians, East Asians, and many more groups can have wavy and curly hair.
In the Asian community there is a pressure to have straight silky hair, so it is no surprise that many people will have their hair chemically straightened and so forth. I wish the Asians who did get their hair permed gave credit to black people and not just some foreign influence on why they want their hair that way. I think we can all learn from each other. I am so grateful to the black curly hair community for educating me on how to better take care of my waves otherwise I would be walking around with a birds nest on my head! 😍
"Bird nest"😂😂😂😂😂 You're so funny 😂😂😂
I am half Korean and half American. I grew up with hair different from everyone else in my family (my 3 sisters &mom). My sister's and mother all have the standard straight course thick black Asian hair.. growing up I didn't know anything about hair types and textures but I did feel the pressure to straighten my hair and it was obviously noticeable. People would ask me if I had a different dad than my sister's. Or ask why I permed my hair. Now that I am 30 I know my hair and it is 3a-3b. It is natural and it is not normal I don't think. My hair also changed and my curls got way tighter after I gave birth to my son..
American isn’t a race or ethnicity lol, what type of American are you? There’s Haitian Americans, African Americans, Mexican Americans, white Americans, native Americans, etc.
Black natural hair movement started with us because none of the hair care product was design for our hair…. Our hair is totally different why means we want our own
Key thing the female said in her IG post: “If you look back far enough” in regards to the connection of Africa and Asia. And this was before slavery. Historians, especially Europeans, tend to always start every African off at slavery because that’s the narrative they want to keep portraying when Africans have always been around the world particularly in Africa, Asia, and the Americas. Also, if you look back far enough, Asians were very much melanated people even as recent as the late 1800s and early 1900s (there’s a photo out there, amongst many others, of a mother, her newborn and two nurses and they were as dark as me but had the typical Chinese look). And if you look at the ancient caves, particularly in Dunhuang, China, the paintings on the walls show Chinese people that are dark skinned. One of China’s leading Geneticist, Prof. Li Jin was attempting to prove that Chinese people evolved independently BUT changed his stance once he realized that all Chinese people can trace their lineage back to Africa. My theory, Africans came first, then Asians, and lastly Europeans. Then Africans and Asians populated the so-called New World of the West together before colonization of Europeans which coincidentally took place in Africa (hit the hardest), Asia, and the Americas. People don’t realize this but the Suez Canal was built and created to divide Africa and Asia (and to control the trade route). And also people don’t know that there are Chinese accounts of Africans and Asians making their way over to the Americas for trade (likely bc they were dealing with familiar people) before the colonizing of the land.
I’m Black & mixed (unknown heritage) and Park Chaeso has hair just like mine! Same color, texture, density, curl pattern ‼️ whoa 😲
What a well put together documentary. I love this! I learned a lot. Thank you!
I currently cut my hair mad short. I look at these pixie/ taper short hair trends and see the almost overwhelming use of relaxers for these short cuts. We still have an issue with the hair that grows out of our heads.
The Korean dark ginger NATURALLY one LOL is so beautiful 😍😍😍❤️
The jheri curls for regular black folks was created by Comer Cottrell, a black guy. It might be invented at first by a white guy, but it is perfectioned for black hair by Comer.
I wish we would understand that slavery is NOT what put Black people all over the globe, we were indigenous to this planet! The WHOLE planet!
People of African descent migrated to Asia long before the times of the Portugese slave trade. I really loved hearing her family history though. I can't imagine how it was for her great great grand parents.
Don't they get afro perms?? I'm pretty sure it's the new thing
some people do but it's only those who are obsessed with hip hop and other aspects of black cultures.
anybody else going for a..."softer" aesthetic wouldn't want to get it. it would "ruin" their look otherwise.
that's what happens when you treat ppl's natural features like an aesthetic...😒
Literally 👏🏾💯
Some do, but most truly are Jaír trying to embrace their natural hair.
It's usually the men that want them. More asian men, white men and Latino men want that curly hair look
Definitely can relate to this, I Asian with Afro-American bloodlines. ( South Asian, Oceanic. )
Grew up natural then had a jheri curl me and my mama! Been natural now for over 10 years. Wore my hair big in the 80’s.
The "Natural hair movement " is a Black thing! Black hair has been despised in the United States because of Chattel slavery! When the Black is beautiful revolution began in the US in the 1960's it was to teach Black people to embrace their authentic selves. The Korean woman in this video looks like she has a perm. Anyway. We Black people need to stop inviting everyone to the Cookout and be ok with the natural hair movement being for us by us.
South Koreans are an interesting case, and will either help challenge the "white is right" cultural dynamic worldwide or cause heartburn for African Americans/black folks. Koreans consume more global pop culture than any other Asians. They are very dynamic with their own local trends but also adaptive with foreign trends. Here are some interesting cultural observations I've made over the years:
-- Koreans have the highest percentage of Christians in Asia proper (not counting middle east etc)
-- Korea produced the only globally known Asian "rapper" (PSY - before you laugh, he went quad platinum)
-- Koreans created the first contemporary music sound from Asia (K-Pop)
-- Koreans have trafficked in black culture (for good and bad (blackface))
-- Korea has a black person from Ghana as one of its most popular bonafide media celebrities (Okyere)
-- Koreans are now doing Afrobeats (I was at a Burna Boy concert and met a whole crew of non-English speaking Koreans)
-- And now, Koreans are "going natural"
Make of it what you will
This video is very educative and natural. Very well made too❤️❤️❤️
You know the reason i had to stop relaxing my hair is because i had a daughter she has the softest prettiest light brown blond curls and all she has to do is spray water on it. When she saw my hair relaxed she started saying mom i want my hair just like you. I dropped the relaxer so fast.
My husband who is Japanese, has wavy hair he’s 100% Asian. In his baby pics it look like a curly Afro.
Super interesting. It's really great for people to start loving their own textured hair.
I have two Asian friends. One is Taiwanese. She straightens her curly roots because she hates them. The other friend is Chinese, she loves her curly hair. Growing up, my family was very close to a Chinese family. The three little girls had bone straight hair.
Hair texture is regional. its so in Asia, in Africa in the Americas in Australia in Polynesia ; and all the other places I did not write down.
These women look stunning with their curly hair
This is so interesting when people of other race are mimicking our hair because to them it’s stylist… not understanding it’s our own and heritage.. They want the black hair styles, culture when it’s convenient to them
It was nice to see a timeline of our collective Black hair journey! I thought it was interesting to see what the Latin and Asian women said, and how some Latinas tried to say race, skin color, and hair texture didn’t matter in their culture, while giving examples of how it did. 😂 I wish the women had credited Black women for TCG Method. It’s clear that this vid took a lot of work. I appreciate you.
I went to Aveda and Asian women would get perms for texture. I guess everyone get tired of their natural curl patterns and want to change it.
Curly perms are indeed popular among Asian women, but I also learned that some Asian people have naturally curly hair. They perm/relax it in order to blend into society and avoid being judged.
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This is another fact that needs to be understood, Korea has always been a crossroads on the silk road. People from as far as Europe Iran and Africa have come to Korea to Settle. In my Mom's family alone she has ancestors from India and china. And i do know that there are families that have ancestors from west china or central Asia, Japan, India, Iran, Vietnam Mongolia and i am sure there were people from Africa that arrived in Korea, especially during the times when Korea was controlled by Mongolia. And this has been a thing for thousands of years. Koreans being racist and not mixing is actually the behavior that is bizarre and is something that is more brought in from the neighboring nations.
Earth Kitt, was the PERFECT, Cat woman! But the only problem is that she was Black, sexy and beautiful. So beautiful, that white women by the thousands! called in or wrote the head of the TV station Bat Man was shown, that they didn't want a "N" being Cat Woman! They soon replaced Miss Kitt, with a Whyte woman, who came no where near! what Eartha Kitt brought to that character! Can anybody say, " jealousy is a beast!"
I’m Korean with hella curly hair. I don’t look Korean either. I had double eyelids and a tall nose. Growing up my whole family said I was either adopted or my mom had some explaining to do. It hurt for awhile then I realized the whole world is a mix whatever.
Same 😂😂 as a Malaysian lady, having curly hair is very rare and whenever I go outside the old aunty on the street always thought I pay to do my hair and didn't believe me when I said it's natural.. even the hairdresser was shocked when they saw my hair cause they thought I perm it
They were doing this decades ago in Japan. I saw one dude get his hair kinked up to get dreads and another dude did the same and had a nice fade. There was also a “black lifestyle” trend in Japan and the women were making their hair kinky too.
So basically just stealing black culture and making it profitable for them 😭
Wow…
I appreciated learning about people around the world learning to appreciate their curls. I didn't know about the slave trade in the country that you mentioned and never realized that Asians had curly hair. Thank you for the information. As a Black woman I learned to appreciate my curls years ago and stopped using perms and coloring to change my hair. I have salt and pepper curls now and get quite a few compliments on my hair. I wore my hair in a natural in the 60s and used UA-cam to relearn how to care for my hair. I am so appreciative of the girls who consistently show how to care for the curly hair. Some of them make it way too involved with the different products they use, but I have learned to simplify my hair care.; this saves me money and time.
I live in south korea....it is VERY RARE to actually see a korean with curly hair...the ones i have seen are very unnatural looking. I dont doubt there are some that have naturally curly hair but i have rarely ever saw a natural one...the other ones i've seen try to mimic 4c hair...which is not naturally occurring in asian women
From what I've seen in videos Koreans with anything but straight hair get something called a magic perms that makes their hair straight. Alot of Koreans are deciding to stop using it but there is no representation until recently so they are just now trying to learn how to upkeep hair that is not part of the beauty standards.
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This made me uncomfortable
Thought I was the only one lol. I can’t pint my finger on why it’s uncomfortable to watch.
The movement was supposed to be about black women. Then all these other women want to come in and steal what we’ve started. We can’t have nothing for ourselves without other groups of people making it about themselves.
Yup. They can claim up and down that natural hair comes in ALL ethnicities but it’s only normalized once non black women like it.
It was the white Latinas claiming to be Afro-Latina for me. Because your hair is curly?? Oh, okay...
Did, I am a new sub. I enjoy your vids. I hope in the future, all noneuropeans embrace their natural hair and stop envying other races' texture.
Huh? Envy who? No one is envying Europeans, at least I know this as a black woman. If you're talking about people using extensions because they can't manage their hair or to protect their hairstyles, I'll agree with you.
lol everyone in the comments crying that Black ppl arent getting credit for Asian hair…and at the same time clearly using the word Asian to describe one type of person, i.e. east Asian. im south asian and i have curly hair and honestly fully erasing some of us Asians from the discussion seems racist, whereas expecting an asian woman with curly kinky hair to give you credit for the hair that grows out of her head? sometimes you all do too much.
Wow. I’m so emotional right now. This was interesting
There is a blasian clay artist on Instagram who wore her hair straight and wasn’t getting views. She switched to wearing her fro and bam her views and followers grew damn near overnight. She must have been called on it because she deleted a handful of her straight hair photos.
To all the people complaining that they aren’t “giving black women credit”, you need a reality check:
What do you expect them to do? List off the history every time they make content where they just explain how they take care of THEIR hair? Black women aren’t the only ones with curly hair, and they certainly didn’t become the only people making curly hair content. On the Internet, trends start and before you know it there will be loads of content on various issues. These women most likely saw other creators embrace their curls and they decided to give it a try. These people could have been ANY RACE. Because guess what? Black women aren’t the only ones who have been put down their whole lives for a different hair texture.
Stop treating races like a collective entity where each one needs to “pay respects” and “give credit” to the other for basic things. It’s unrealistic, it’s childish, and in the case of where these ladies got their routines from, it’s most likely not even black women. Get over yourselves.
@Layla Caudle Other races can have type 4 hair I have no idea why you would think that. It’s unrealistic to have every person who isn’t black go on about the history of the movement when it’s just people trying to share how they take care of their hair. It’s not complicated, and races aren’t hiveminds who need to give each other anything. Stop looking at people for their race, just let people enjoy the process of learning about their hair, because at the end of the day, it’s not just black people who have been put down. It’s people with curly hair period.
@@leaddust5539other races can’t have 4c hair. They can have type 3 hair but nothing in the 4 unless they are mixed with black
@@Anisa-wi5zj That is just not true
Now we can even have CURLY HAIR!!!!!! AS SOON AS WE PERFECT AND LIVE SOMETHING ABOUT OURSELVES HERE YALL COME!!!!! HOW BOUT YAL DO IT FIRST!!!!!!;
We are the blue print period
Thank you, this was an amazing video and great to see other women learning to love their beautiful nature curls…❤️👩🏽🦱👩🏻🦱👩🏼🦱
this is kinda crazy considering how much black women and black ppl in general were bullied for their hair types but all of the sudden everybody wanna have curly hair like ours…
They have curly hair not kinky hair
@@YoYo-pi6sk we have curly and kinky hair, stop running through the comments trying to prove black women wrong when we right
@@katarak4742 “she said curly hair like ours”??? 😂😂😂 if it grows out of their scalp, that’s their OWN hair. You weirdos.. man, that inferiority complex has you all so delusional
Honestly, I'm all for everyone around the world discovering and loving their natural hair. Diversity of textures in representation is good. I didn't even know it was possible for Asians to have hair like this. But think, there were people that didn't know black women chemically straightened their hair too, at some point. As long as we don't get erased, and people realize we have been fighting for this freedom for yearsss.
I see a lot of ppl in the comments talking about them saying “foreign” instead of “black” and them not giving credit but if I were to guess I’d say they don’t see the importance in giving black ppl credit bc they don’t understand that things are often stolen from us and that we are protective of the things we create. In Korea, anyone that isn’t Korean is called a foreigner so to them it’s not “black hair tips” it’s just “foreign hair tips” I’m not saying that they shouldn’t give credit bc of course after years of having everything we make stolen from us for the benefit of ppl other than us, they should respect our community and give credit. At the same time I feel like we should also understand that there’s a cultural difference here and Koreans don’t learn or understand all of the same things we do bc a lot of our ideals are foreign to them
i dont think that they don’t understand the importance of giving credit. i just think its the simple fact that they use foriegner and thats that. its not anything personal against black people and to them, they are giving credit, they just dont use the same terms we do.
No some of them be getting that nappy perm thing done so you got to be careful with this.
Other cultures are embracing our hair ! I think that’s great 😀
Your hair is kinky not curly
@@YoYo-pi6sk and we love it
@@YoYo-pi6sk
The best hair on earth. Head lice/ parasites bugs, hates our hair and our hair texture protects our scalp from the hot sun/uv rays. Thank the God for kinky hair.
@@YoYo-pi6skkinky hair is just tighter curls. So yes it is curly
Like i knew they had curly hair because iv seen before and after the salon …hair looked almost type 4 before straightening 😂😂
Sorry to shout it out loud but us, black people (African...) aren't the only ones to have curly yet coily hair and for God sake stop generalise things and assume that all Asians are the same. It isn't their fault if some of them are racist as well as we are sometimes. I beg cut the crap. Culture appreciation do exist
This video was well done. Thank you for creating and sharing it.
Yep there are lots of Asians with naturally curly hair. I’d say most have straight hair but there are LOTS with curly or wavy hair, they just keep it straight to assimilate.
This kinda reminds me of how TT went ape shit over BW with monolids and upturned eyes. A lot of races/ethnicities share common phenotypes idk why it’s hard to understand. One thing I will say is Koreans be studying AAs like no other, take it as a compliment lol.
Same thing happened with WW who had textured/curly hair. That’s why the natural hair movement was really the 2b-3c curl appreciation lol
A lot of ppl don't realize that asian and black culture are very close and alot of Asian countries are going through things now that black ppl faced centuries ago due to yt people. Things like Japanese straightening treatments are prominent in asian society today much like perms back then bc asian society is still conforming to the ideal "asian" woman who is very similar to yt'ness. We only see lightskinned Asians in media so much we forget about darskinned asian countries nd we assume things based on what we see
when in reality many mainland and other Asians are curly haired (3a-4a usually )tanned and using bleaching products getting surgery ect and Asians who find it harder to conform are forgot about like pinoy, Cambodian, Indian, middle eastern.
Just so you know Asia have been doing stuff like hair straightening and skin lightening to fit their standards. White skin was praised because it meant you didn’t have to work in the fields which is where poor people got darker due to being out in the sun all’s at eb sue they had to work. Yes, Eurocentric beauty standards do play a part, but the desire for straight hair, large eyes, and white skin has been documented in Asian countries since before white people even set foot in Asia. It wasn’t until white people came along that they had a physical reference to compare their standards to. So while there are similarities between our situations, Asians are still pretty different than us.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 I am aware of this that's why I used the phrase "similar to yt'ness" as even though the base for the "ideal asian" woman in mainland asia is based on history, the modern day "ideal" woman around all of asia has many features based on yt people that weren't present back then in history
Along with the constant advertising of yt women to want their "likeness".
Like I said East asian women aren't the only asian women nd the appearance of them in the media is what most people think of Asia as a whole but their history is not everyones history and plays a small part in asia overall vs colonization as many asian countries outside of mainland asia share these ideals based on their colonial experience alone.
@JE exactly it's a standards that was made by them lmao so basically they're not trying to look "white "
asians cant have 4a hair only up to 3a
Black people were the start of civilization and we were everywhere.
As this movement becomes mainstream, I feel like the beauty standard for hair will change, and black women with 4c hair will still be the less admired, because ppl will start view loos curly and wavy hair as the ideal hair beauty standard
And we stay beautiful we are our own standard 💅🏿 black women paved the way
I agree, hair too straight is thin and easly damaged and falls out and hair too thick is too kinky grows up and not down and is hard to manage, everyone is looking for that medium Type 2 and Type 3 hair.
Gotta stop speaking evil girl..if you want change speak change...it's like saying my big lips will never be beautiful but let a KK put it on her and it's gorg and trendy!
Very succinctly described, the Black American hair journey. I said side eye because this Korean embrasure of, "natural hair."
Cornrow hairstyle originated in Africa. Hair braiding is thousands of years old and originated in Africa.
I'm loving this trend!!!!!!!!
There where also african American soldiers in SK during the Korean War as well.
I’m blasian thank you making this video because there is a lot of people who don’t know this info😢
Asian women using curly styles is not being natural. They’re being UNnatural. The natural hair among most Asian women is Type 1 a very few Type 2a. They’re doing today what we type 1 and 2 did back in the eighties.
I’m a type 2b and remember in the 1980s the perms (to get abundant curly hair) were very famous. Look at the movie “Working Girl” with Melanie Griffith. In my case I just needed to wash it and let it dry in the air to get the style but my friends with type 1 and 2a spent hours in the salon with a bunch of mini rollups and spray 😂. Then the 90s reversed to everybody with flat ironed hair.