I really love it when people humanize Ody’s crew, make them individuals with their own quirks and problems. It makes their deaths all the more heartbreaking.
Ikr?! Epic really under exaggerated Odysseus' crew members, until they became just background characters. It even removed a lot of Odysseus' relationship with them as in the Odyssey the crew were basically like family as they all mourn the deaths of their comrades, everyone who has ever read Homer knows he likes to humanize even the most insignificant characters. Also when Circe freed his men: Odysseus and the remaining crew (who stayed behind on the boat weeping for the unknown fate of their comrades) rejoiced and wept upon seeing them safe and human. It honestly hurts me a little that in the Thunder Saga Odysseus chooses to let them die WHEN Odyssey Odysseus would and had never (Zeus in canon killed only those who participated in killing and eating the sacred cows, there was never a choice for Odysseus)
All the cut songs Jorge releases of them makes me want like a bonus features Crew Saga that happens at the same time as Epic and follows Elpenor, Perimedes, and the other crew. Elpenor and Perimedes' relationship is an obvious thing to touch, but there's also "Everything's changed since Polites" so that would be cool to see how they cope with that, including Odysseus since we don't really get to see him grieve Polites, heck one could miss that he died until Underworld
and it sort of makes the mutiny all the more understandable, a lot of people love to say how Ody was right and whatnot because the crew "deserved" it, but I get annoyed with that because they seem to be placing moralities in black and white, and not understanding and sympathizing more that the crew had their own complex set of motives that brought them to commit mutiny. People are so willing to insert themselves into these situations "I would've done this I would've done that" which just seems to annoy me since they're just so willing to trade human lives. We see that Odysseus still wishes for his crew to live, because these were his men and friends, he was not ready to kill his own friends. And that's what I like about these songs, we see the POV of the crew, and why they would eventually betray Odysseus, because from their POV, Odysseus seems to be unreasonable.
@doctorenvy9650 Exactly, we see the build up where as in the final cut, it's just Eurylochus, and it's overdone with him. There are 3 songs that Eurylochus is in that he is not arguing with Odysseus, and most of them is a minor speaking or singing role, being Polyphemus, Scylla, and Thunder Bringer. And of those 3, Polyphemus is the only one where there isn't tension between them anyways. The way it is makes it easy to antagonize Eurylochus and the crew and see them as whiney, foolish, and at fault
The more songs about Perimedes & Elpenor the more I hope Jorge releases an album of all the cut songs / with all the songs sung from the other crew-mates perspectives.
He’s literally the youngest of ody’s crew yet he’s so much taller and broader. If I were Ody I would be so personally offended by this dude’s existence💀
I kind of love Elpenor’s vibe. He seems like he really cares about Perimedes but doesn’t know what the right thing to do is. I also really like his long lines. I wish we got a Permides/Elpenor side saga
really looked depression in the eye and said “cope harder” srsly though this is amazing, again another obligatory “jorge works fast but the epic community works concerningly faster”
“It’s not my job to make him happy, it’s my job to bring him home” are two sad yet true lines. It really isn’t Ody’s job to make Perimedes happy, it’s his job to get them home. Sad, yet true.
Okay so…Odysseus’ plans aside, this actually brings an interesting topic into the mental health community. If a coping mechanism is proving to be unhealthy but it also seems to be working, do we let them keep doing it or do we intervene?
YES. Making this animatic was very personal for me because of this. As someone struggling with depression and trying to cope by animating my interests (but often overworking myself at a point of hurting my wrist and being sleep and food deprived) this song got me deep
OH MY GOD. THE FLASHES TO ALL OF THE FOES ODDIE HAS/WILL FACE AND PENELOPE AT THE END, 0:22 THIS FRAME IN AHHHH GENERAL, AND HOW UPSET HE IS GETTING AT 1:00. THIS IS AMAZING. Edit, I wonder how Perimedes coped with Elpenor’s death.
@@HafsaAlami-qf4kt Like he said, dude was depressed, and had been gone for a long time, and from the wordage of saying "How do you know he hasn't found it" when talking of home indicates he has no one back in Ithica. Dude had just slain so many for his country and had no one to return to, it makes sense why he drank himself to death (Especially after 500 or so men they left with from Troy died before he died himself)
Okay so I just need to clarify, is everyone in the Epic community silently agreeing that Elpenor and Perimedies were gay for each other? Because I’m all here for it.
Somehow this makes me a lot sadder than the story we do have.. I fear this broke my heart a little The penelope melody at 'look at how hes smiling' is fucking crazy
I need you to know that I routinely watch this animatic again and again everytime I see it (and I have started to LOOK for it sometimes) simply because I LOVE Elpenor's parts and that little breath Perimedes has.
Do you think Odysseus wishes he let him stay with the lotus eaters? Do you think he stays up at night thinking if he gave in at least one of his crew would be alive?
Brooo this is soooo good!!!! Elperimedes supremacy!!! Also like remember how Elpenor died in the Circe saga? I like to think that Perimedes kept telling everyone that Elpenor was missing but everyone just ignored him
I really hate this, I mean the fact that when two people are very close and worry about each other, when two people are very good friends, no matter male or female, everyone jumps to call them "gay" or "lesbian" for each other, because this is a trend nowadays, now it isn't only that two people of opposite sexes can't be very good friends and worry about each other deeply but platonically, but now two people of the same sex can't do that either, Elpenor and Perimedes are only shown in this songs to care deeply about each other like any good friend would care about their close friend, wouldn't you care and worry about your best friend like this and more so if they were suffering so much and normally in silence to top it all off? I most definitely would, it's only natural to care and worry so deeply about someone else that you love and to search and want what's best for them even when it's not in a romantical way, but it's still love, and love in its core is the same and it's always pure and never selfish and you always want what's best for the other even if you might make mistakes sometimes, there exist more types of love, like true friendship, fraternal love (we also could call friendship fraternal love) and paternal love, and of course romantic love, which is very intense, but you don't only show deep care, worry and affection to the person you romantically love, you also show deep care, worry and affection to your best friend, definitely more so when they really need it and you see that they are suffering, it hurts you too and you want to see them okay, not every two people of the same or opposite sex that are very close and care for each other have romantic feelings for each other or are already together, the majority don't but still care deeply for each other like true good friends care and stick for each other, people can still be and definitely are still simply good friends that like good friends they love and worry a lot for each other but platonically, but that doesn't mean that they don't love and care for each other
@doloresgronenberg5882 Realest. Not that I'm homophobic or anything, but for real, people should know that deeply caring doesn't always mean that they're "gay for eachother"
...I wonder if there is a possible AU where Oddie (maybe Athena as well?) reaches a somewhat hilarious compromise that only crewmates who have literally nothing to come back to at home should stay in the Land of Lotus Eaters. After all Oddie is only one that made it home alive. **Shrugs**
A part of me hopes that if we ever get a cut content version of the album where the songs involving the other members of Odysseus' Crew are included, there's the inclusion a similar version of this song where Perimedes demands Ody turn back from the Underworld to Circe's Island so they can give Elpenor a proper burial - something that's included in some versions of Homer's Odyssey - so his soul won't be trapped in the River Styx but Ody refuses. Because that'd give Perimedes being the one to stab Odysseus in Mutiny a lot more emotional weight to it.
Hey y’all I was informed about this in a different cope with that animatic but if you listen closely at the start of the video you can hear Penelope’s viola [0:11] It’s very soft and hard to hear so take any implications as you will (Saw one commenter compare how Odysseus cares for Penelope the same way that Elpenor cares for Peremides)
I love this! You did a fantastic job and have cemented my absolute love of this pairing. Peri not noticing Elpenor's missing until after underworld is a story I'm sad we won't get in the actual musical. Now. For the love of all things good! Take a break! We don't need another Alexander/Odysseus out here not sleeping for a week. 😂
I think people, especially Peri, *did* notice Elpenor's death, but he says that no one noticed in his Underworld clip because his insecurities caused him to think that no one would care if he died, which is what he died believing
LYRICS [Elpenor] 0:00 Maybe we shoud leave him Look at how he sleeps Look at how he's smiling Its the first real one in weeks You don't know him like I do Which is why you'd be perplexed If you knew how he would hide the truth Deep down he was depressed [Athena] 0:38 Don't let him convince the other men [Odysseus] 0:40 So what Are we supposed to abandon Those who are hurt and desert them Leave them out to burn when words are not working [Elpenor] 0:47 No, we support them However they need We let them be happy and free [Odysseus] 0:51 Its not my job to make him happy Its my job to bring him home [Elpenor] 0:56 How do you know he hasn't found it We shouldn't make him have to go [Odysseus] 1:00 Well maybe Im a monster Maybe I'm in the wrong Maybe I'm the problem That's been hiding all along [Odysseus] 1:10 Im a slave to my ambition A prisoner of my drive And I have got this mission And I cannot compromise And you'll just have to cope with that
GUYS! The only reason Odysseus didn’t want to leave Perimedes is because he’s the biggest Elpimedes shipper! Odysseus just didn’t want Elpenor to be sad about Perimedes!
dunno if anyone noticed, but whenever the backround goes black (like when he says, "Maybe I'm the monster") you can ser polties' headband on odysseus just something cool I noticed, I love this animtic!
YT ALGORITHM DOING IT'S JOB AND RECOMMENDING THIS TO ME 40 MINUTES AFTER IT WAS POSTED!! This is so good!!! I love how you've drawn literally everyone, and I like the detail of Ody/his bg changing with his past/future decisions with the "what if I'm the monster" etc part. Brb gonna go share this with all my friends immediately 💖
I love how Elpenor is fully aware Oddyseus is being manipulative. He knows the captain is not saying "are we supposed to abandon the ones who are hurting" because he actually cares, but because he needs every man he can get to get *himself* back home. That's why he gets so annoyed and challenges him, until Oddyseus admits the truth- it is not about Perimedes's well-being, but his own.
I love that Ody in the moment doesn't have his headband, and can be seen as "just a man". But when he reflects on the choices he's made/will make, you drew him w/ the headband that would signify him as royalty. It shows how Odysseus bears the brunt of the responsibility for his men, and therefore all the consequences and guilt for his actions, since he's their captain & king
Ody: “My mission is to get back with my wife which I love!” Elpenor:”My mission is to let peri be happy which I Lo-.. appreciate if you did the same..” Ody: 0.o “what..?” Peri: “I heard that!!”
Amazing animatic! The way you show how Perimedes was depressed is really good! And those flashes of Ody's future when the ensemble comes in on his part are so good! And it almost loops lol
Ok so i have two theories/headcannons for what happens with these two. Either perimedies dies during ruthlessness, and Elpenor drinks himself to death trying to forget the pain and the reason why noone remembered him is because perimedes was the only one who really cared about him, or elpenor was just drinking for the hell of it and after he falls from the balcony perimides is borderline suicidal (especially after seeing elpenor in the afterlife thinking that no one cared that he died), so when when odysseus choses the crew to die in thunder bringer he just sits down in a corner of the boat and crys tears of joy at the fact that he would be reunited with his beloved soon. God, i should write a fanfic-
God I love this!!! You guys are so fast with your art turn outs!! This one is so soff spoken it. The transitions with the echos of how this song is resung in the canon songs breaks my heart so well when you show the flickers. Great work!!!
Never thought I'd crave Elpenor x Perimedes angst but here we are
@@gigi2820 GIGI??? YOU'RE HERE?! AAAAAAA *dies* HI
Btw I need to admit that perimedes's design is taken from your mutiny animatic ☝️
@@GoodForWho LMAO thank you I'm very flattered :D
Both of your Animatics are amazing!!!❤
😮😮😮😮no way😮😮😮😮😮😮
I really love it when people humanize Ody’s crew, make them individuals with their own quirks and problems. It makes their deaths all the more heartbreaking.
Ikr?! Epic really under exaggerated Odysseus' crew members, until they became just background characters. It even removed a lot of Odysseus' relationship with them as in the Odyssey the crew were basically like family as they all mourn the deaths of their comrades, everyone who has ever read Homer knows he likes to humanize even the most insignificant characters. Also when Circe freed his men: Odysseus and the remaining crew (who stayed behind on the boat weeping for the unknown fate of their comrades) rejoiced and wept upon seeing them safe and human.
It honestly hurts me a little that in the Thunder Saga Odysseus chooses to let them die WHEN Odyssey Odysseus would and had never (Zeus in canon killed only those who participated in killing and eating the sacred cows, there was never a choice for Odysseus)
All the cut songs Jorge releases of them makes me want like a bonus features Crew Saga that happens at the same time as Epic and follows Elpenor, Perimedes, and the other crew. Elpenor and Perimedes' relationship is an obvious thing to touch, but there's also "Everything's changed since Polites" so that would be cool to see how they cope with that, including Odysseus since we don't really get to see him grieve Polites, heck one could miss that he died until Underworld
@@izurukamukura6653Ditto
and it sort of makes the mutiny all the more understandable, a lot of people love to say how Ody was right and whatnot because the crew "deserved" it, but I get annoyed with that because they seem to be placing moralities in black and white, and not understanding and sympathizing more that the crew had their own complex set of motives that brought them to commit mutiny.
People are so willing to insert themselves into these situations "I would've done this I would've done that" which just seems to annoy me since they're just so willing to trade human lives. We see that Odysseus still wishes for his crew to live, because these were his men and friends, he was not ready to kill his own friends. And that's what I like about these songs, we see the POV of the crew, and why they would eventually betray Odysseus, because from their POV, Odysseus seems to be unreasonable.
@doctorenvy9650 Exactly, we see the build up where as in the final cut, it's just Eurylochus, and it's overdone with him. There are 3 songs that Eurylochus is in that he is not arguing with Odysseus, and most of them is a minor speaking or singing role, being Polyphemus, Scylla, and Thunder Bringer. And of those 3, Polyphemus is the only one where there isn't tension between them anyways. The way it is makes it easy to antagonize Eurylochus and the crew and see them as whiney, foolish, and at fault
" It's not my job to make him happy, it's my job to bring him home" my favorite lines
"my job is to bring all of them home, which I will fulfill quickly and successfully"
@@Nisselak”quickly and succesfully” :)
immideatl when i heard that i was like: damn, he serious
It really is devastating
Don't put it like that , it seems he failed at both...
I like to think that peri saying he would toss a child off a building is a way of acting tough to cope with his depression which rlly sad tbh
Same, i feel bad for him 😢
Or he really is just built like that.
I think he is depressed but he gets happy whenever he gets to chuck babies off of walls
i believe he said he would “yeet” a child
..sorry 😭
Lying through his teeth.
me vibing once odysseus starts rapping like alexander hamilton-
That was the first thing I thought too jaja
Omg u should listen to another cut epic song, Ismarus, it gives a lot of Hamilton vibes
Omg i thought he started rapping like Alexander Hamilton too
NO BC REALL as soon as he started singing I was like.. 🙀🙀
😂😂
gotta love how polites's headband reappears every time the visions of odysseus's hardships appear
And every time his hair changes to fit the time passed
FREAKING OUCH YOUR RIGHT- his mistake follows him in all he’s done, through life and death
The more songs about Perimedes & Elpenor the more I hope Jorge releases an album of all the cut songs / with all the songs sung from the other crew-mates perspectives.
Ditto
Ele já lançou um álbum a mais?
Me too!!
I fully agree!
Probably in the "What?!" Saga
Your design for Elpenor is so funny to me cuz he’s just this buff himbo who loves wine (and Perimedes). Bro would be besties with Dionysus
He’s literally the youngest of ody’s crew yet he’s so much taller and broader. If I were Ody I would be so personally offended by this dude’s existence💀
@@tsutomumybeloved7411Ody should already be used at this point. Everyone is taller than him. By the time he gets home Telemachus will be too
Always perimedes
Even Perimedes is taller than Ody, everyone is. Love it
Edit: I meant Elpenor but like, everyone is taller than him so it still works :D
Ody is 3 cm tall
@@GoodForWhowe love a short king
@@feathered_turtle quite literally lol
@@GoodForWhohe is three winions tall 😊
@@HafsaAlami-qf4kthahah so canon
I kind of love Elpenor’s vibe. He seems like he really cares about Perimedes but doesn’t know what the right thing to do is. I also really like his long lines. I wish we got a Permides/Elpenor side saga
THE FORESHADOWING
Did you like it? :3
@@GoodForWhoYES, it looks really cool tho show what action will bring him to turn on his "monster" side
@@GoodForWho Oh most certainly. It's also cool to see more of Elpenor, knowing how he ends up. Poor guy.
There's also foreshadowing in the sing at the start with the "danger motif" that Jay hides soo many songs
0:16 the happy little snuggle head shake means everything to me. look at this happy man, how could you tear him away from that Odysseus
This is actually my favorite part and I'm so glad someone pointed it out
Obligatory jorge works fast but the epic community works concerningly faster comment, also I love this, it looks great! Keep it up!
All of the little details too like like elpenor putting his hand on peri and the future flashing in front of ody as he sings, I love it
0:06 Why did you make Ody serve so much there? Like honestly slay, it's giving too hard
this fandom is great because I can hear a snippet form a cut song and get a really good animatic for it like, a day later
GAAAAAAAAAH THE PAIN OVER THESE CHARACTERS THAT ARE HARDLY IN THE ACTUAL MUSICAL
This is beautiful 😭
really looked depression in the eye and said “cope harder”
srsly though this is amazing, again another obligatory “jorge works fast but the epic community works concerningly faster”
I love how the entire epic community all agree that everyone is taller then odysseus 😭
“It’s not my job to make him happy, it’s my job to bring him home” are two sad yet true lines. It really isn’t Ody’s job to make Perimedes happy, it’s his job to get them home. Sad, yet true.
Okay so…Odysseus’ plans aside, this actually brings an interesting topic into the mental health community. If a coping mechanism is proving to be unhealthy but it also seems to be working, do we let them keep doing it or do we intervene?
YES. Making this animatic was very personal for me because of this. As someone struggling with depression and trying to cope by animating my interests (but often overworking myself at a point of hurting my wrist and being sleep and food deprived) this song got me deep
You help them find ways of replacing it with something healthier or you find professional input/support
OH MY GOD. THE FLASHES TO ALL OF THE FOES ODDIE HAS/WILL FACE AND PENELOPE AT THE END, 0:22 THIS FRAME IN AHHHH GENERAL, AND HOW UPSET HE IS GETTING AT 1:00. THIS IS AMAZING.
Edit, I wonder how Perimedes coped with Elpenor’s death.
I mean perimedes was the one who stabbed ody in mutiny so I guess not very well lol
@@GoodForWho
Not perimedes waiting 7 songs to make his already traumatised captain pay for his friend’s alcoholism’s consequences
@@HafsaAlami-qf4kt Like he said, dude was depressed, and had been gone for a long time, and from the wordage of saying "How do you know he hasn't found it" when talking of home indicates he has no one back in Ithica. Dude had just slain so many for his country and had no one to return to, it makes sense why he drank himself to death (Especially after 500 or so men they left with from Troy died before he died himself)
That question left me crying like a wretch at 2 AM after analyzing the fragment X'D
@KnittingTinker But it's Elpenor who drunk himself to death, not Perimedes :/
Depression and yeeting babies, my favorite combo
THE LITTLE FLASHES OF PREVIEWS OF THE SAGAS AS ODY RAPS IM GOING INSANEEE
My poor baby 😭 Perimedes is so cute and poor Elpenor. Elpenor is clearly hurting but knows it's for the best
Okay so I just need to clarify, is everyone in the Epic community silently agreeing that Elpenor and Perimedies were gay for each other?
Because I’m all here for it.
@@buggymah yes we are and I'll make sure of it.
100%, it makes this like 10 times sadder, it’s great.
Yep
Of course, absolutely
They were tent mates
Somehow this makes me a lot sadder than the story we do have..
I fear this broke my heart a little
The penelope melody at 'look at how hes smiling' is fucking crazy
Looove the choice to make “ambition” flash with Scylla! That’s so cool and I haven’t seen anyone do that before!
1:01 i love how every character is taller than Ody sjsjsjsj
He's a short king
...
Literally-
GAHHH I LOVE YOUR EPIC ANIMATICS PERIMEDES AND ELPENOR ARE EVERYTHING TO ME RN
I need you to know that I routinely watch this animatic again and again everytime I see it (and I have started to LOOK for it sometimes) simply because I LOVE Elpenor's parts and that little breath Perimedes has.
No. Stop. Please…
Please Don’t make me do this… don’t make me do this... 😢
Don’t make my waterspout breakkkkk… 👊😭
“It's the will of Pibi!!” ⚡️⚡️
@@HafsaAlami-qf4ktI'M CRYING.
@@GoodForWho
“That's the point”
- Pibi
Omg y’all are hilarious-
I might need to make a cover for that XD
@@greeniestudios8207 PLEASE DO AND SEND IT TO ME
Do you think Odysseus wishes he let him stay with the lotus eaters? Do you think he stays up at night thinking if he gave in at least one of his crew would be alive?
Perimedes was the one who stabbed Odysseus in the back during his fight with Eurylochus.
If he'd given in, he might have saved the last 41.
@@falconstudios146damn
@@falconstudios146 If Perimedes hadn't intervened, Odysseus probably would've killed Eurylochus, and then _everything_ would be ruined.
"You took an L like your name's prince hector " THAT WAS FOUL 💀💀😭😭
I LOVE YOUR ANIMATICS SO MUCH I LOVE ELPENOR AND PERIMEDES AND YOURE MAKING ME COMBUST WITH HAPPINESS
i absolutely love it when side characters get attention 😭🙏
and i also love perimedes and elpenor so much omgg
Brooo this is soooo good!!!! Elperimedes supremacy!!! Also like remember how Elpenor died in the Circe saga? I like to think that Perimedes kept telling everyone that Elpenor was missing but everyone just ignored him
Imagine him literally going to Circe demanding to know where he was and she just explains what happened
Oh *that's* how you do the shipname, many thanks
“You don’t know him like I do” damn thats pretty fruity
1:01 i love this part it kinda fireee
btw lovely animatic
Elpenor is so gay for Perimedes holy crap
EDIT: I DID NOTICE THAT IT LOOPS PERFECTLY THAT IS SO COOL
I really hate this, I mean the fact that when two people are very close and worry about each other, when two people are very good friends, no matter male or female, everyone jumps to call them "gay" or "lesbian" for each other, because this is a trend nowadays, now it isn't only that two people of opposite sexes can't be very good friends and worry about each other deeply but platonically, but now two people of the same sex can't do that either, Elpenor and Perimedes are only shown in this songs to care deeply about each other like any good friend would care about their close friend, wouldn't you care and worry about your best friend like this and more so if they were suffering so much and normally in silence to top it all off? I most definitely would, it's only natural to care and worry so deeply about someone else that you love and to search and want what's best for them even when it's not in a romantical way, but it's still love, and love in its core is the same and it's always pure and never selfish and you always want what's best for the other even if you might make mistakes sometimes, there exist more types of love, like true friendship, fraternal love (we also could call friendship fraternal love) and paternal love, and of course romantic love, which is very intense, but you don't only show deep care, worry and affection to the person you romantically love, you also show deep care, worry and affection to your best friend, definitely more so when they really need it and you see that they are suffering, it hurts you too and you want to see them okay, not every two people of the same or opposite sex that are very close and care for each other have romantic feelings for each other or are already together, the majority don't but still care deeply for each other like true good friends care and stick for each other, people can still be and definitely are still simply good friends that like good friends they love and worry a lot for each other but platonically, but that doesn't mean that they don't love and care for each other
@doloresgronenberg5882 Realest. Not that I'm homophobic or anything, but for real, people should know that deeply caring doesn't always mean that they're "gay for eachother"
@@doloresgronenberg5882 okay but on my animatic they are, indeed, very gay for each other
@GoodForWho Oh hey, didn't expect you here! Great job on the animatic! You did *such* a good job
@@JustEm22 always! Take care
I like how every instance of foreshadowing, we see him with Polities' headband, keeping it within his person the rest of the main arcs.
The fandom is make a lot of Elpenor x Perimedes stuff and I'm here for it
...I wonder if there is a possible AU where Oddie (maybe Athena as well?) reaches a somewhat hilarious compromise that only crewmates who have literally nothing to come back to at home should stay in the Land of Lotus Eaters. After all Oddie is only one that made it home alive. **Shrugs**
I can’t stop coming back and rewatching this, the way you portray them as “cabin mates” melts my heart 😭🩵
A part of me hopes that if we ever get a cut content version of the album where the songs involving the other members of Odysseus' Crew are included, there's the inclusion a similar version of this song where Perimedes demands Ody turn back from the Underworld to Circe's Island so they can give Elpenor a proper burial - something that's included in some versions of Homer's Odyssey - so his soul won't be trapped in the River Styx but Ody refuses. Because that'd give Perimedes being the one to stab Odysseus in Mutiny a lot more emotional weight to it.
Hey y’all I was informed about this in a different cope with that animatic but if you listen closely at the start of the video you can hear Penelope’s viola [0:11]
It’s very soft and hard to hear so take any implications as you will
(Saw one commenter compare how Odysseus cares for Penelope the same way that Elpenor cares for Peremides)
That's amazing /srs
I need more of these two in my life.
0:36 turn on captions dude😭 (edit - It's fine now cause it used to say "daddy was depressed...")
Help lol
I love how every time the flashes occur Odysseus is wearing his headband (signalling the open arms philosophy)
I love this! You did a fantastic job and have cemented my absolute love of this pairing. Peri not noticing Elpenor's missing until after underworld is a story I'm sad we won't get in the actual musical. Now. For the love of all things good! Take a break! We don't need another Alexander/Odysseus out here not sleeping for a week. 😂
TOO BAD SLEEP IS OFF THE CHARTS I NEED TO DO THE ELPENOR'S BALLAD TO FINISH THE HOLY TRINITY
@@GoodForWho We will mourn you like Polites and appreciate your contributions as a true Winnion.
I think people, especially Peri, *did* notice Elpenor's death, but he says that no one noticed in his Underworld clip because his insecurities caused him to think that no one would care if he died, which is what he died believing
I love how literally everyone is taller than Ody in your style A+
LYRICS
[Elpenor] 0:00
Maybe we shoud leave him
Look at how he sleeps
Look at how he's smiling
Its the first real one in weeks
You don't know him like I do
Which is why you'd be perplexed
If you knew how he would hide the truth
Deep down he was depressed
[Athena] 0:38
Don't let him convince the other men
[Odysseus] 0:40
So what
Are we supposed to abandon
Those who are hurt and desert them
Leave them out to burn
when words are not working
[Elpenor] 0:47
No, we support them
However they need
We let them be happy and free
[Odysseus] 0:51
Its not my job to make him happy
Its my job to bring him home
[Elpenor] 0:56
How do you know he hasn't found it
We shouldn't make him have to go
[Odysseus] 1:00
Well maybe Im a monster
Maybe I'm in the wrong
Maybe I'm the problem
That's been hiding all along
[Odysseus] 1:10
Im a slave to my ambition
A prisoner of my drive
And I have got this mission
And I cannot compromise
And you'll just have to cope with that
OMG THANK YOU!!!!
Aw crap I thought it was “prisoner of my tribe”
GUYS! The only reason Odysseus didn’t want to leave Perimedes is because he’s the biggest Elpimedes shipper! Odysseus just didn’t want Elpenor to be sad about Perimedes!
I’ve listened to this an unhealthy amount of times
I somewhat wish Jorge included this in song the musical as well as Perimedes - I need more elpenor x perimedes angst
when he said "give me that baby and i'd yeet it off a tower" maybe the baby isn't literal
Ironically, Elpenor would have been much safer on the island than with Ody
I love the detail of Odysseus having the bandana in the flashes but not in current time
I'm glad I found someone who makes animatics for cut epic songs 😭😭
dunno if anyone noticed, but whenever the backround goes black (like when he says, "Maybe I'm the monster") you can ser polties' headband on odysseus
just something cool I noticed, I love this animtic!
YES YES YES YES
YT ALGORITHM DOING IT'S JOB AND RECOMMENDING THIS TO ME 40 MINUTES AFTER IT WAS POSTED!!
This is so good!!! I love how you've drawn literally everyone, and I like the detail of Ody/his bg changing with his past/future decisions with the "what if I'm the monster" etc part. Brb gonna go share this with all my friends immediately 💖
Perimides might say he doesnt want any friends. But he has Elpenor.
That little blush for, "You don't know him like I do..."
0:24 AWEEE MY HEART
I love how Elpenor is fully aware Oddyseus is being manipulative. He knows the captain is not saying "are we supposed to abandon the ones who are hurting" because he actually cares, but because he needs every man he can get to get *himself* back home. That's why he gets so annoyed and challenges him, until Oddyseus admits the truth- it is not about Perimedes's well-being, but his own.
Peri is just sleepin while he’s high and Ody and Elenor are beefing (in song form)
"Is not my job to make them happy, is my job to bring you home" the way he did neither lmao
I love Ody rapping
ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE
We need Epic: the crews version
The emotions are so well shown! And the pain in both of their eyes is so AUGGHHHH
I love that Ody in the moment doesn't have his headband, and can be seen as "just a man". But when he reflects on the choices he's made/will make, you drew him w/ the headband that would signify him as royalty. It shows how Odysseus bears the brunt of the responsibility for his men, and therefore all the consequences and guilt for his actions, since he's their captain & king
TY FOR SHOWING HOW CONFLICTED ODY IS!!!
I assume Odysseus' hair is supposed to represent the time that passes.
Love this, especially the Zeus bit.
My gay little heart can't handle this 😭
Ody: “My mission is to get back with my wife which I love!”
Elpenor:”My mission is to let peri be happy which I Lo-.. appreciate if you did the same..”
Ody: 0.o “what..?”
Peri: “I heard that!!”
I certainly can't cope with this! It hurts!
My heart was truly _suffering_ while I listened to this song
i’m choosing to believe elpenor and perimedes stayed behind and got married yall stay safe tho
yo the monster section was sooo satisfying; i'm obsessed with all the timings and references 😩🙌
OMG I LOVE THIS SOOO MUCH!! i'm going to cry in a corner now
AAAA, THIS IS WAS SO GOOD, OH MY GOSH, AHD PERIMEDES FACE WHEN YOU SHOWING HIS TRUE EMOTIONS
I JUST...😭
BRILLIANT WORK!
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ALL NIGHT ❤❤❤
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was him yeeting a baby
I need a full version of this so bad
The interesting part is that he would still be alive if Odysseus left him there
1:12
WHY MUST YOU HURT ME THIS WAY 😭
Wait it just took me many rewatches to realize how this kinda loops, this is perfect.
OOOOHH THAT'S FANTASTIC!! Great job, the animatic is gorgeous!!!
This animation is so good and so cute I probably watched this 10 times now ❤❤❤❤
I love how you included all the horrible things Odysseus had been through in the sagas
This is so beautifully made!
YES I LOVE THIS!!
Okay but I wasn’t ready for the crying scene….ow… good job mate :’)
I HEAR THAT PENELOPE MOTIF BACK THERE there is no way these two weren't supposed to be a couple or something along those lines
Amazing animatic! The way you show how Perimedes was depressed is really good! And those flashes of Ody's future when the ensemble comes in on his part are so good! And it almost loops lol
AHHH HE LOOKS SO ADORABLE IN HIS GRADUATION UNIFORM AGHHHH WHY DID YOU MAKE HIM ADORABLE?!
I know this is about the crew but since it’s all one voice it almost sounds like an internal monologue about depression
SHORT KING ODY IS MY FAVE
Ok so i have two theories/headcannons for what happens with these two. Either perimedies dies during ruthlessness, and Elpenor drinks himself to death trying to forget the pain and the reason why noone remembered him is because perimedes was the only one who really cared about him, or elpenor was just drinking for the hell of it and after he falls from the balcony perimides is borderline suicidal (especially after seeing elpenor in the afterlife thinking that no one cared that he died), so when when odysseus choses the crew to die in thunder bringer he just sits down in a corner of the boat and crys tears of joy at the fact that he would be reunited with his beloved soon.
God, i should write a fanfic-
@@anisasahai4922 actually,,, canonically perimedes dies by zeus lighting bolt in thunder bringer
But I would read a fanfic with your premises
1:02 THE CYCLOPS
1:05 ZEUS
1:07 CIRCE
1:10 TIRESIAS
1:12 SCYLLA
1:15 THUNDER BRINGER
1:19 PENELOPE!!!!
God I love this!!! You guys are so fast with your art turn outs!! This one is so soff spoken it.
The transitions with the echos of how this song is resung in the canon songs breaks my heart so well when you show the flickers. Great work!!!