Howell rolled the dice on himself a few times... I can't fault a man that takes a chance and bets on himself... Unfortunately for him he came up snake eyes... Every time... Some people just have bad luck... In all aspects of their lives... Shout out to Green for not leaving his mate to die alone and afraid amongst the Blackfoot... Rest Easy Howell... Rest Easy...
Your channel has to be my favorite history-based channel, if not my most favorite of all genres! Your thorough research is on display in every offering! To quote Hans Landa, "I say, BRAVO!"
This book was an amazing one. I got the audio book and finished it in a few days. It’s actually the first one I ever tried and it has since hooked me on western and mountain man stories, but especially Native American interactions with the early frontiersman. Your videos put a smile on my face every time I see you uploaded a new one. Thank you!
Wow this was fascinating to me so glad I found this channel! I've subscribed and look forward to doing a binge watching of all your past and future episodes.
2:00 Possibly interesting fact: Beaver pelts today are often stretched on a round hoop. I suppose a large quantity go to the production of Stetson and Restistol and Catalena cowboy hats!🤠
Being a history buff...as I have traveled the mountains since a kid (now retired), I have often wondered.....how many people might be buried up and around there. Trappers, miners, people traveling across etc., burial grounds and such. Look for little mounds ? No use, through time, wind, rain storms, snows etc...their grave sites would be flattened. Headstones ? Very doubtful. If anything, they would have had a wooden cross, or large rock. Even a piece of wood with a name...would not last long in such areas. Did find a big rock one time...just had " A H " on it...always wondered...what if....
Another thought provoking episode H.O.K.C. Giving rise to a burning question: Of all the Beaver killed, did they ever eat them? and if they did, what'd they taste like?
Beaver is VERY pungent and it has an aftertaste that you would never forget. Like the great American Buffalo, most beaver were killed for their fur and nothing else. And like the buffalo, the beaver in N. America was hunted to the brink of extinction. In 1899, the beaver was estimated to be only 500-to 750 within the lower 48.
My step Mom was raised in deep East Texas (2 hours North of Houston) in the 1940’s and 50’s. Her father never had a driver’s license and often hunted for their supper. I have heard her tell of eating several animals we would probably not eat, like possums. I never heard of them eating beaver. There are beaver in those thick woods and creeks because we often saw sign while deer hunting. Trees they had chewed down, etc..
Hi, Great video. To help with pronunciation of the Blackfoot Bands. Siksika - (Six-Six-Ga) Kainai - Common(Kye - Nye) Proper (Gain-uh) North & South Piikani (Bee-Gun-Knee) I tried my best to try recreate the pronunciation in text from. Hope this helps.
@@enemy5971 I’ve never heard another Blackfoot pronounce Piikani with a P because blackfoots pronounce “P” as “B” just like how we pronounce “K” as “G” like Kainai / Kainaiwa (Gain-uh-wa)
it should also be included that beaver are central to Bkackfoot religion ... having gifted many important things to the Blackfoot people ... to hunt them is sacriligous ... to call it offensive is an understatement.
Howdy y'all, first I thought a bit to much sentimental but your'e pushing your weight! Forgot the story nearly myself - congrats! - and know the Blackfoot, Piegan, Siksikow and Blood were not the nicest hosts to not welcome strangers 😅. It's interesting how the whites treated this Tribes after the late 1870 years...keep them coming, God's Blessings from Northern Germany Ludwig.
Howell- "I saved up $200, everything is going fine... than I lost it all in a boating accident" Totally not on a month of prostitutes and whiskey. "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!" Funny how excuses never get old. That's just my 1st thoughts, perhaps he was a Saint, I dunno, I wasn't there.
Naw, we weren’t there so it could be six or a half dozen. Those were rough people all around. Kinda like every rockumentary I’ve ever seen. They start on the road with a lick and a promise, talent gets them a seat at the banquet, and luck favors them and they have made it. THen comes the bottle and the syringe. Or in this case if they aren’t killed by a cougar or ol’ Mr. Grizz there is a the matter of a very upset group of men who see these newcomers as we would those who break in to our homes and take it as if it’s their right. Y’all know that an argument over a dog between neighbors can become pretty vicious. Pushing up agin the Blackfoot, why, that’s just lunacy. That’s not a very good analogy, but I tried. 22:49
@davidmuir7711 I appreciate it. History is nuts. It's hard to believe anything I wasn't there for. I will add that apparently everyone who knew this Howell character thought pretty poorly of him. Not one, with a kind word to spare. Had to get bailed out of jail to join this group... I bet his 'ol lady would tell a wholly different story. I like the part of the story, where the other guy pounded his ring into an ingot because his fiance was pissed he went on a drunken bender. Dude, perhaps your just an asshole.
Howell shouldn't have listened to the direction of his mule. I know animals are smart, but to bet your future on the direction an animal wants to walk in is crazy. But I know people way back then had little options. Thank you for this very interesting video. I love learning about the interactions between the white and the Indian people.
I get that it's a shiny new toy, but I dont care for the AI art as much as the old paintings and drawings. Just my opinion. I more here for the stories, anyway.
AI in general need to be HIGHLY regulated, it's not regulated because it's a military weapon soon to be deployed wholesale against the American people. Enslavement: it's on the menu
The Blackfoot were powerfull before the Comanche but 75 percent died of disease.Great channel love all your videos, you guys are right up there with Chris Wimmer Black Barrel media * Wild West Extravaganza. T.C.B. 🤟
They are a strong group of warriors for sure but they not THE strongest, The Comanches are more powerful and The Stoney Nakoda defeated them for the Cochrane area in Alberta
@@sirblank2384 although true, there were also times the Stoney Nakoda and Blackfoot fought one another and were evenly matched basically, both tribes have won and lost battles to one another, one battle for example both tribes fought over the region of Cochrane and which the Stoney Nakoda won that battle. So basically both tribes fought each other but there were also allegiances between the tribes
@thegamingnomad1 im not saying there wasnt battles i mean heck look at the irish clans they fought just as much....if not more and it ended in stalemates
:48 ,the guy on the right is a man named Kingdom Isambard Brunel. One of the best engineers this planet had ever known. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel
thank you for this post. it failed to mention that beaver are central to Blackfoot history and spirituality ... the mountain men, as much as I might have aspired to be one if born back then, were not only trespassers and poachers ... but also incredibly offensive to the Blackfeet Confederacy.
And the Blackfoot were trespassing when they moved there from the east. Every group in history has been a colonizer at one point or another. Colonialism has been a staple of humanity for its entire existence, until recently. Funny how the people who changed that staple are now considered the only people who can be blamed for it. Same goes for slavery.
The story is the same, native people fought amongst themselves, they never band together. Nowadays descendants of natives cry over the crimes committed against them. But had they band together history would be written differently
Would Blackfoot hostility be accounted for by willingness to make deals with the fur traders? Or willingness to aid fur traders by hostility of the Blackfoot towards other native groups (looking for allies)?
4:40 That would be a great title for a mountain man/western movie… “Dead Porcupines” Imagine if you will, our protagonist cautiously walks into the scene, gripping his lever action rifle. See’s a camp full of his mutilated friends. The camp torn to pieces and stolen goods, gone. As the protagonist takes in the scene of carnage and notices bodies full of arrows. His companion who is watching his back says, “They all look like dead porcupines.” Boom! Title of the movie! I see Chris Pine or Pratt as the lead for the movie. Directed by Kevin Costner.
Minus the lever-action rifles. Replaced with the Pennsylvania and later the Hawken and Creamer-type rifles. Single-shot, muzzleloading, flint lock rifles. The lever action didn't see wide production until the late 1860s
@@tudyk21 Oh right! Thanks for putting on the right track. The proper firearm for a period piece movie. This script was about to go down Hollywood style.
@@amata415 Costner and Co. made the same error with “Dances with Wolves” Those lever action, cartridge rifles appear to be 1873-1877 models but the movie is set around 1866 or so. They also depict the Sioux as mostly affectionate, lovable, fastidiously clean, gentle, peace-loving people who are repeatedly attacked while sitting around camp, minding their own business. Please. They were some of the most formidable, ruthless and fiercest of Indians, like Comanches, Apaches, Cheyenne, Kiowa. Not friendly and lovable. Tough, mean, aggressive and fierce. Edit:I can’t remember the exact story in the movie about the white woman being “adopted” into the tribe, but I believe it was something like some “bad” indians or someone had killed her family and these nice people found her orphaned and took her in. Well, here in Texas it was quite common for children to be kidnapped, especially by the Comanches. They needed people to keep their numbers up. The famous Comanche chief Quanah Parker was the son of Cynthia Ann Parker and a chief. She had been kidnapped at 9 years old and became one of them. 2nd Edit:Winchester started producing the very first lever action rifles in 1867. So, it would have been a POSSIBILITY that he could have received a shipment of them far out west by 1868, maybe. Doubtful because it was so remote and reconstruction was the big thing going on so I’m not sure when the Army even officially adopted lever action Winchesters. Also, I still think the replicas used in the movie were later styled models. Those are big mistakes because it made a vast difference in the outcome of battles in the West. Paterson Colt 5 shot revolvers were first used by the Texas (Republic) Navy and Texas Rangers in the early/mid 1840’s and made it possible for 8-10 Rangers to fight 20-25 Comanches without all getting slaughtered as before. Some still got killed, but it helped a lot.
First-there is a section in ‘1873’ depicting such an attack on a wagon train that mortally wounds the daughter of the Dutton’s, her parents are portrayed by Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, whom I felt rendered an Oscar worthy performance. I cannot at the moment remember the name of the actress that played their daughter, but she was great. Second- there were several notable lever action firearms before Oliver Winchester bought the patent rights for the Tyler Henry brass framed lever action rifle in caliber .44 rimfire. Henry had working examples when the War Between The States erupted in 1860-1861. The U.S. military ranking officers had rejected adoption of repeating arms then for a number of reasons, not the least of which was concerns over rank&file troops wasting valuable ammunition in battle. However, as many regiments/battalions were frequently raised by officers in their local areas, said officers of social status and wealth were free to arm their units with whatever weapons they chose to pay for, which resulted in a couple of units having Henry’s supplied to them, as long as the ammunition procured was purchased by those officers. Therefore a couple of units from Wisconsin and (as best I recall) a couple from Minnesota were outfitted with Henry’s, a certain game changer when most units were armed with single shot muzzleloaders. Another lever carbine that saw use on the northern side were Spencer’s, it’s maker drew inspiration from the patent of the Volcanic lever action pistol, whose patent rights were owned by Smith&Wesson. I believe the Spencer Carbine used a .40 caliber rimfire cartridge, but I would have to look it up to be certain, so don’t bite me if I am incorrect. After Winchester bought the Henry rights, the rifle used a spring loaded pivoting tubular magazine to hold fresh rounds of ammo and it didn’t have a wooden handguard, work was started on a later version that employed the King’s Patent side loading gate to push fresh cartridges through into the magazine; as well as a wooden fore grip to aide the shooter in not making contact with a hot barrel under repeated firing. John Moses Browning and his brothers subsequently designed the more modern lever rifles utilizing center fire cartridges and a couple of lever action shotguns that Oliver Winchester purchased the patent rights to and history was forged forever. I hope this bit of information helps to explain the ascension of lever rifles that helped tame the West.
They attacked the mountain men because in Blackfoot culture beavers are held to a high regard. Also they were hostile because these random white people were killing them and treating them so horribly. Maybe if the mountain men weren’t sneaking around their territory they wouldn’t have attacked them.
love the channel, however, the AI graphics are a big negative. Unless you have some actual pics, you might as well use flintstones to represent the characters. Both are useless and needlessly distracting.
when me and my friends would watch ur videos we'd always hear the miss pronunciation of the 4 bands in the blackfoot tribe. first ima say Peigan are the band that was split by the border in Alberta. and south peigan are the ones on the other side of the border, but they are the same people basically. to pronounce peigan and south peigan it is, Piikani (BEE GUN KNEE), aamsskaapipiikani (UMM SGAA BEE BEE GUN KNEE), and The bloods is, kainaa, (GAA NAAH), the most north band Siksika (SEH TS SA GAA) i tried to make the sounds of the word so u can understand it better. try pronounce the word fast then it'll sound good
Mister Howell sounded like a capable man and if not for his terrible luck he would have lived quite a steady life in the city. Surprised he didn’t find more opportunity in the city after his final fire fiasco that compelled him to sign up with the trappers , did those expeditions really have that much opportunity to pay so much? Tragic story and I need to hear more like it 🫡
What's with the pretty boy cowboy pctures? People didn't look like that back then. People didn't procreate for looks back then, therefore people weren't very attractIve. Just image search 1800's people and you will see.
Everyone was just trying to survive in those days. Even the beaver had to worry about being turned into a top hat
The cliffhangers are almost too brutal to bear. Me and these mountain share the same pain.
More coming ASAP!
Your narrator is fantastic. Keep up the great work.
Man, these are so good. The storytelling is phenomenal. Great job.
Thanks a ton!
Howell rolled the dice on himself a few times...
I can't fault a man that takes a chance and bets on himself...
Unfortunately for him he came up snake eyes... Every time...
Some people just have bad luck... In all aspects of their lives...
Shout out to Green for not leaving his mate to die alone and afraid amongst the Blackfoot...
Rest Easy Howell... Rest Easy...
2:44 Now that is good info! I knew of all those tribal names, but didn't know that they all fell under the "Blackfoot umbrella ".
Damn it i was rooting for Howell. Poor guy had terrible luck. Hopefully he at least got one night to share with his love before he set off to his end.
Your channel has to be my favorite history-based channel, if not my most favorite of all genres! Your thorough research is on display in every offering!
To quote Hans Landa, "I say, BRAVO!"
Good on Smith. I was glad to hear he was true to his word.
This book was an amazing one. I got the audio book and finished it in a few days. It’s actually the first one I ever tried and it has since hooked me on western and mountain man stories, but especially Native American interactions with the early frontiersman.
Your videos put a smile on my face every time I see you uploaded a new one. Thank you!
I do have a question where do you get all of these stories from? They are very informative, educational, great channel you have going on :)
cool thank you 😊
Great story, brings back old war time memories.
Keep up the great videos! I’ve become an avid fan over the past few weeks
Another wonderful story, cannot wait for the sequel: Revenge of the Mountain Men
Great video and love when they are this long. Keep it up your talents are under-appreciated!
One of the best ones yet 🫡
Love this channel 👍🏻
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Wow this was fascinating to me so glad I found this channel! I've subscribed and look forward to doing a binge watching of all your past and future episodes.
Good stuff. Especially enjoy the Texas Rangers vs. Comanches videos.
More to come!
Amazing work brother thank you
Thank you!
Great lesson in history and great story with a freeeee subscription to thanks...
You should really do an episode of the modoc war, I think many would really enjoy it.
The best narration and story telling by far. Thank you sir.
Happy Father's Day Shout Out from Detroit...
Amped up to listen to the new episode...
9:50 (approximate time stamp)
Sounds like Smith is projecting his own faults, failures and should-have-beens onto Howell. 😣
2:00 Possibly interesting fact: Beaver pelts today are often stretched on a round hoop.
I suppose a large quantity go to the production of Stetson and Restistol and Catalena cowboy hats!🤠
An old roomate of mine did this to a raccoon...It works!
Being a history buff...as I have traveled the mountains since a kid (now retired), I have often wondered.....how many people might be buried up and around there. Trappers, miners, people traveling across etc., burial grounds and such. Look for little mounds ? No use, through time, wind, rain storms, snows etc...their grave sites would be flattened. Headstones ? Very doubtful. If anything, they would have had a wooden cross, or large rock. Even a piece of wood with a name...would not last long in such areas. Did find a big rock one time...just had " A H " on it...always wondered...what if....
Another thought provoking episode H.O.K.C. Giving rise to a burning question: Of all the Beaver killed, did they ever eat them? and if they did, what'd they taste like?
The tail was considered a great delicacy
Beaver is VERY pungent and it has an aftertaste that you would never forget. Like the great American Buffalo, most beaver were killed for their fur and nothing else. And like the buffalo, the beaver in N. America was hunted to the brink of extinction. In 1899, the beaver was estimated to be only 500-to 750 within the lower 48.
My step Mom was raised in deep East Texas (2 hours North of Houston) in the 1940’s and 50’s. Her father never had a driver’s license and often hunted for their supper. I have heard her tell of eating several animals we would probably not eat, like possums. I never heard of them eating beaver. There are beaver in those thick woods and creeks because we often saw sign while deer hunting. Trees they had chewed down, etc..
Thank you for using Blackfoot, and not Blackfeet! Too many use the wrong name.
Hi, Great video. To help with pronunciation of the Blackfoot Bands.
Siksika - (Six-Six-Ga)
Kainai - Common(Kye - Nye) Proper (Gain-uh)
North & South Piikani (Bee-Gun-Knee)
I tried my best to try recreate the pronunciation in text from. Hope this helps.
@@enemy5971 I did get it right. Its how you pronounce them.
@@enemy5971 I’ve never heard another Blackfoot pronounce Piikani with a P because blackfoots pronounce “P” as “B” just like how we pronounce “K” as “G” like Kainai / Kainaiwa (Gain-uh-wa)
it should also be included that beaver are central to Bkackfoot religion ... having gifted many important things to the Blackfoot people ... to hunt them is sacriligous ... to call it offensive is an understatement.
Looking forward to hearing the next encounter!
Damn good storytelling. I like your style.
Howdy y'all, first I thought a bit to much sentimental but your'e pushing your weight! Forgot the story nearly myself - congrats! - and know the Blackfoot, Piegan, Siksikow and Blood were not the nicest hosts to not welcome strangers 😅. It's interesting how the whites treated this Tribes after the late 1870 years...keep them coming, God's Blessings from Northern Germany Ludwig.
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Pulling.
Howell- "I saved up $200, everything is going fine... than I lost it all in a boating accident"
Totally not on a month of prostitutes and whiskey.
"That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!"
Funny how excuses never get old.
That's just my 1st thoughts, perhaps he was a Saint, I dunno, I wasn't there.
Naw, we weren’t there so it could be six or a half dozen. Those were rough people all around. Kinda like every rockumentary I’ve ever seen. They start on the road with a lick and a promise, talent gets them a seat at the banquet, and luck favors them and they have made it. THen comes the bottle and the syringe. Or in this case if they aren’t killed by a cougar or ol’ Mr. Grizz there is a the matter of a very upset group of men who see these newcomers as we would those who break in to our homes and take it as if it’s their right. Y’all know that an argument over a dog between neighbors can become pretty vicious. Pushing up agin the Blackfoot, why, that’s just lunacy. That’s not a very good analogy, but I tried. 22:49
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@davidmuir7711 I appreciate it. History is nuts. It's hard to believe anything I wasn't there for. I will add that apparently everyone who knew this Howell character thought pretty poorly of him. Not one, with a kind word to spare. Had to get bailed out of jail to join this group... I bet his 'ol lady would tell a wholly different story. I like the part of the story, where the other guy pounded his ring into an ingot because his fiance was pissed he went on a drunken bender. Dude, perhaps your just an asshole.
Lol good stuff!🤣
Howell shouldn't have listened to the direction of his mule. I know animals are smart, but to bet your future on the direction an animal wants to walk in is crazy. But I know people way back then had little options. Thank you for this very interesting video. I love learning about the interactions between the white and the Indian people.
It wasn't Howell, it was another guy.
Amska-pi-pikunii
And no we didn't migrate to the back bone of the world. Napi gave us that land since the beginning.
Explain your post, if you please.
@@tudyk21 they took it "fair and square" like all groups did.
I get that it's a shiny new toy, but I dont care for the AI art as much as the old paintings and drawings.
Just my opinion. I more here for the stories, anyway.
AI in general need to be HIGHLY regulated, it's not regulated because it's a military weapon soon to be deployed wholesale against the American people. Enslavement: it's on the menu
Perhaps missing the forest for the trees?
Great story!
Love this channel. Hate when the story ends
Absolutely fantastic 👏👏👏
Great stories love history
The Blackfoot were powerfull before the Comanche but 75 percent died of disease.Great channel love all your videos, you guys are right up there with Chris Wimmer Black Barrel media * Wild West Extravaganza. T.C.B. 🤟
The blackfoot were referred to as the most powerful plains native because of their fighting style and their numbers
Great content!
Excellent video 😊
Is there a video on the revenge attack by the mountain men on the Blackfoot??
Coming soon!
@@historyattheokcorral 👍 cool! Thanks!!
The blackfoot are known as the most powerful plains Indians clan because of the fighting styles and the numbers
They are a strong group of warriors for sure but they not THE strongest, The Comanches are more powerful and The Stoney Nakoda defeated them for the Cochrane area in Alberta
@thegamingnomad1 Stoney Nakoda was allies of the blackfoot along with the cree and they expelled the shoshone and kootenai
@@sirblank2384 although true, there were also times the Stoney Nakoda and Blackfoot fought one another and were evenly matched basically, both tribes have won and lost battles to one another, one battle for example both tribes fought over the region of Cochrane and which the Stoney Nakoda won that battle. So basically both tribes fought each other but there were also allegiances between the tribes
@thegamingnomad1 im not saying there wasnt battles i mean heck look at the irish clans they fought just as much....if not more and it ended in stalemates
@@sirblank2384 basically both tribes fought to a stalemate but there was also alliances between the tribes
7:09 In other words, they asked: '
"What's your problem, bro?"
This is a great account😎
:48 ,the guy on the right is a man named Kingdom Isambard Brunel. One of the best engineers this planet had ever known.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel
Like the movie quote says : “Man’s gotta know his limitations”
The keel boats keep changing shape
thank you for this post. it failed to mention that beaver are central to Blackfoot history and spirituality ... the mountain men, as much as I might have aspired to be one if born back then, were not only trespassers and poachers ... but also incredibly offensive to the Blackfeet Confederacy.
And the Blackfoot were trespassing when they moved there from the east. Every group in history has been a colonizer at one point or another. Colonialism has been a staple of humanity for its entire existence, until recently. Funny how the people who changed that staple are now considered the only people who can be blamed for it. Same goes for slavery.
The story is the same, native people fought amongst themselves, they never band together. Nowadays descendants of natives cry over the crimes committed against them. But had they band together history would be written differently
wheres the next videos to this?
Can't wait for the rest of the story.........
this seems like a good one sorry for missing the stream
Beaver was worth more than gold in the 1820s, easier to get as natives would trade beaver but did not consider gold panning.
Would Blackfoot hostility be accounted for by willingness to make deals with the fur traders? Or willingness to aid fur traders by hostility of the Blackfoot towards other native groups (looking for allies)?
One of those guys in the top hats designed and build the largest ships of the time like the great eastern
Aw man!
Round like the full moon. I like that one 😂
You seem to REALLY like melancholy Lol
history to real for the woke
The power of imagination can move mountains 🌈⛰️💪
A groups of strangers keeps coming to your town and camps there and takes your food and clothing, and eventually land and home, you allow it?
@leonpse You are correct that's why the Cherokee slaughter the Apache.
@leonpse And when they slaughter settlers hate returns to them.
Conservative displays diminishing testosterone levels in six words.
What’s sad is that nobody seems to pay any attention to the fact that those beavers were living their lives and raising their families
Lol.
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Lol I hope your just joking
Hunting and merciless war.
Has anything changed except the weapons and size of wars?
Cantle not canter of saddle.
Smith colul not have held a revolver to Howe's head as the revolver had not been invented.
Isn't history exciting? So much to learn, things never taught in schools
Where can I find the background music?
"Waltz For Zaccariah" is the title
@@historyattheokcorral thanks man. Appreciate the work you do!
And part 2…"?
I bet the Blackfoot ate the beaver and used the pelts also as no one would ever have noticed them otherwise
Is this another White guy Fact?
Respect from Ireland 🇮🇪 👏
4:40 That would be a great title for a mountain man/western movie… “Dead Porcupines” Imagine if you will, our protagonist cautiously walks into the scene, gripping his lever action rifle. See’s a camp full of his mutilated friends. The camp torn to pieces and stolen goods, gone. As the protagonist takes in the scene of carnage and notices bodies full of arrows. His companion who is watching his back says, “They all look like dead porcupines.” Boom! Title of the movie! I see Chris Pine or Pratt as the lead for the movie. Directed by Kevin Costner.
Minus the lever-action rifles. Replaced with the Pennsylvania and later the Hawken and Creamer-type rifles. Single-shot, muzzleloading, flint lock rifles.
The lever action didn't see wide production until the late 1860s
@@tudyk21 Oh right! Thanks for putting on the right track. The proper firearm for a period piece movie. This script was about to go down Hollywood style.
@@amata415 Costner and Co. made the same error with “Dances with Wolves” Those lever action, cartridge rifles appear to be 1873-1877 models but the movie is set around 1866 or so. They also depict the Sioux as mostly affectionate, lovable, fastidiously clean, gentle, peace-loving people who are repeatedly attacked while sitting around camp, minding their own business. Please. They were some of the most formidable, ruthless and fiercest of Indians, like Comanches, Apaches, Cheyenne, Kiowa. Not friendly and lovable. Tough, mean, aggressive and fierce.
Edit:I can’t remember the exact story in the movie about the white woman being “adopted” into the tribe, but I believe it was something like some “bad” indians or someone had killed her family and these nice people found her orphaned and took her in. Well, here in Texas it was quite common for children to be kidnapped, especially by the Comanches. They needed people to keep their numbers up. The famous Comanche chief Quanah Parker was the son of Cynthia Ann Parker and a chief. She had been kidnapped at 9 years old and became one of them.
2nd Edit:Winchester started producing the very first lever action rifles in 1867. So, it would have been a POSSIBILITY that he could have received a shipment of them far out west by 1868, maybe. Doubtful because it was so remote and reconstruction was the big thing going on so I’m not sure when the Army even officially adopted lever action Winchesters. Also, I still think the replicas used in the movie were later styled models. Those are big mistakes because it made a vast difference in the outcome of battles in the West. Paterson Colt 5 shot revolvers were first used by the Texas (Republic) Navy and Texas Rangers in the early/mid 1840’s and made it possible for 8-10 Rangers to fight 20-25 Comanches without all getting slaughtered as before. Some still got killed, but it helped a lot.
Their single shot musket you meant?
First-there is a section in ‘1873’ depicting such an attack on a wagon train that mortally wounds the daughter of the Dutton’s, her parents are portrayed by Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, whom I felt rendered an Oscar worthy performance. I cannot at the moment remember the name of the actress that played their daughter, but she was great.
Second- there were several notable lever action firearms before Oliver Winchester bought the patent rights for the Tyler Henry brass framed lever action rifle in caliber .44 rimfire. Henry had working examples when the War Between The States erupted in 1860-1861. The U.S. military ranking officers had rejected adoption of repeating arms then for a number of reasons, not the least of which was concerns over rank&file troops wasting valuable ammunition in battle. However, as many regiments/battalions were frequently raised by officers in their local areas, said officers of social status and wealth were free to arm their units with whatever weapons they chose to pay for, which resulted in a couple of units having Henry’s supplied to them, as long as the ammunition procured was purchased by those officers. Therefore a couple of units from Wisconsin and (as best I recall) a couple from Minnesota were outfitted with Henry’s, a certain game changer when most units were armed with single shot muzzleloaders.
Another lever carbine that saw use on the northern side were Spencer’s, it’s maker drew inspiration from the patent of the Volcanic lever action pistol, whose patent rights were owned by Smith&Wesson. I believe the Spencer Carbine used a .40 caliber rimfire cartridge, but I would have to look it up to be certain, so don’t bite me if I am incorrect.
After Winchester bought the Henry rights, the rifle used a spring loaded pivoting tubular magazine to hold fresh rounds of ammo and it didn’t have a wooden handguard, work was started on a later version that employed the King’s Patent side loading gate to push fresh cartridges through into the magazine; as well as a wooden fore grip to aide the shooter in not making contact with a hot barrel under repeated firing.
John Moses Browning and his brothers subsequently designed the more modern lever rifles utilizing center fire cartridges and a couple of lever action shotguns that Oliver Winchester purchased the patent rights to and history was forged forever. I hope this bit of information helps to explain the ascension of lever rifles that helped tame the West.
Not a big fan of the AI art but stil great story and performance
Human narrators are irreplaceable, AI can not do it justice.
This is a human
🔥🎸🔥
Semper fi
…*or* about the
Blackfoot, Apache, Comanche and more, were like the Hamas, Hisbollah, Al Shabab of today...
They attacked the mountain men because in Blackfoot culture beavers are held to a high regard. Also they were hostile because these random white people were killing them and treating them so horribly. Maybe if the mountain men weren’t sneaking around their territory they wouldn’t have attacked them.
Get the fug in here bois
Is this fiction?
No less dangerous that the big cities on the east at the time.
Much more dangerous.
I don't like Howell
guy was a coward
love the channel, however, the AI graphics are a big negative. Unless you have some actual pics, you might as well use flintstones to represent the characters. Both are useless and needlessly distracting.
Awwww come on
Capitalism
Good to see you not engagingnwith the 4chan crowd this time around.
why?
bro can you pronounce the words right.😭
Nobody else has complained bro. 😭
when me and my friends would watch ur videos we'd always hear the miss pronunciation of the 4 bands in the blackfoot tribe. first ima say Peigan are the band that was split by the border in Alberta. and south peigan are the ones on the other side of the border, but they are the same people basically. to pronounce peigan and south peigan it is, Piikani (BEE GUN KNEE), aamsskaapipiikani (UMM SGAA BEE BEE GUN KNEE), and The bloods is, kainaa, (GAA NAAH), the most north band Siksika (SEH TS SA GAA) i tried to make the sounds of the word so u can understand it better. try pronounce the word fast then it'll sound good
Mister Howell sounded like a capable man and if not for his terrible luck he would have lived quite a steady life in the city. Surprised he didn’t find more opportunity in the city after his final fire fiasco that compelled him to sign up with the trappers , did those expeditions really have that much opportunity to pay so much? Tragic story and I need to hear more like it 🫡
I bet they played soggy biscuit stinky finger.
Is this all made up?
Absolutely not. All sources linked in description. Nice name btw, we're big fans.
@@historyattheokcorral thank you!
What's with the pretty boy cowboy pctures? People didn't look like that back then. People didn't procreate for looks back then, therefore people weren't very attractIve. Just image search 1800's people and you will see.
Oh ok geez never thought of that