Bugs Boys: The fur trappers vs the Blackfeet
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2023
- Some of the richest beaver country was in the heart of territory claimed by the Blackfeet Confederacy; a tribe known to the fur trappers as Bug’s Boys, or the Sons of Satan. Needless to say there was no love lost between the American trappers and the Blackfeet, and violence became a given any time the two groups would meet. Mercy was rarely extended by either side. Nevertheless, the mountain men - piloted by Jim Bridger - persisted season after season, staking their fortunes and lives on Blackfeet Beaver. #wildwest #history #western
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I am Salish. I was born in Whitefish, Montana. My Dad hated the Indian culture, renounced his tribal membership, and we moved to California. My cousin was elected tribal chief for three different terms. He died at 56 of damage to his organs caused by alcohol poisoning over years of drinking. Other cousins died of similar causes. Even though they got lots of Government money, their life is one of hopeless desperation. My siblings and I all grew up poor but happy and now have happy children and grandchildren. I’m glad my Dad had the courage to break from the tribe.
Thanks for sharing that
Your research and presentation is beyond parallel. I absolutely enjoy your content on Hickok and we would love it if you come visit us in Deadwood. I grew up in the Bighorns and thoroughly enjoyed your content on the fetterman fight and information about the Battle of LittleBig Horn Greasy Grass. Some of my ancestors are Blackfeet and I can't tell you how special this new episode is to me. I'm downloading it and sharing immediately. Thank you Josh from one of your biggest fans
Ah, thank you! I will def let you know when I make it up there
@@WildWestExtravaganza Back in the summer of 2000, l went to Grant County for a shutdown job at Hickok,KS. staying in Ulysses(sic). About three or four days into the job, we went to do laundry and found a pamphlet of the Cimarron Cutoff of The Santa Fe Trail.
Anyway, the two guys with me were a few years younger and being from North Louisiana were ignert of the history of Kansas & the Santa Fe Trail among other facts.
So we traveled South of Ulysses to a historical marker sign which pointed out past a corral. When l drove across a cattle guard, the white dude started tripping that we were trespassing. Now the black guy just stayed silent, but told the white boy to look at an object l had already seen. We drove up fairly close, and went to read a cemented post planted .
This white boy started yapping about coming out in the middle of nowhere, just to read a message on that post.
I had to explain that we were in the northern range of Comancharia. He popped off that there twernt no Comanche around. I said, "How do you know there aren't"
But some people will never take any advice or learn from someone else's mistakes.
Once there was a mountain man
Who couldn't write his name.
Yet he deserves a front row seat
In history's hall of fame.
He forgot more about the Indians
Then we will ever know.
He spoke the language of the Souix
The Blackfoot and the crow. From the song, " Jim Bridger " sung by Johnny
Horton. Great job Josh. Really enjoy your narration. And ma,enjoys it also. It's one of the few times she gets control of the television remote.
Love me some Johnny Horton!
*than
Yup. I'm that guy. Proofread before publishing anything worth reading.
There was an old man of Madras. Whose balls were made of fine brass.
In stormy weather they’d clang together and sparks shot out of his ass.
-my Grandpa
Time for me to pour a mug of tea and enjoy a master story teller talk about a subject that's fascinated me since I was a kid.
Many thanks, pard!😀
I've been all over that part of America during my Misspent Youth as a Saddle Bum & Itinerant Bronc Stomper, but the One Thing I that I really wanted to do but never found the time to do was ramble around in and just see the Historic Wind River Country. Based on photos I've seen and what I've been told. it has to be one of God's Greatest and Most Beautiful Creations. Whenever I picture it in my mind it's always fall when the Birch trees are covered in Bright Golden Leaves, which stand out from and yet Blend so beautifully with the White Birch Bark, and always located with a stream, creek or River in the background. That's kind of what I figure "The Pretty part of Heaven" must be like, but at nigh on to 74, it's a trip I'll never make, but I've seen a whole lot of country that all but leaves one Speechless in Awe. In All Honesty, The Only Truly Ugly Parts Of America That I have seen Personally, are Most Of The Abominations That People Call "Cities". All the rest of America is just like the Title of that old song, "America The Beautiful". It is truly and Honor and Privilege to call this Wonderfully Beautiful Place, My Home.
Many are the times I'd be traveling Cross Country, and found a road on my map(The Old School Paper Kind) a road that ran off the route I was traveling, and would Loop around and back to that highway. I'd take the time to follow that side road as it left and returned to my original route. The things I saw by taking those Side Roads, were often Lovely, and sometimes Starkly Barren in their Beauty simple. The only thing I regret about that was that I didn't take a lot more Side Roads in my long life.
Any of Y'all get the chance, Take That Side Road
You are so damn good at what you do ! It's as if you were hearing this story from someone who was there. Your programs set a standard.thank you.
Too kind!
The young buck in the thumbnail looks like a BAD ASS.
That look in his eyes is timeless and cross-cultural.
"I'm up for it and what the f*ck are you going to do!?"
BOO-YAH!
u lookin at , wipe-hole?
My grandfather was from Idaho and had a some Blackfeet in him. Never so proud to be descended from a true mountain man and be a mountain woman myself. Being from western NC born and raised a country girl. He used to laugh at our mountain's and say they were mole hills compared to his stomping grounds. He said the places he lived in Idaho you could only get to on horseback. Ride for miles without reaching the end of a valley.
Just a side note about infections caused by bullet wounds, especially musket ball wounds pre-antisepsis;
Infections were often caused by fragments of cloth driven into the wound by a musket ball. Officer was during the Napoleonic wars would wear silk shirts because silk was easier to extract from a wound.
Good info! Thank you
@@WildWestExtravaganza you betcha! Keep it rollin' sir, 24 hours at a time.
I wonder how buckskin did with bullets wounds?
@@outdoorloser4340 You know that's a good question. I'm guessing it wasn't too bad because it's a fibrous and heavy substance. But I honestly don't know.
Listened to all of them. Fantastic job on Jim Bridger. Your up there with legends of the old west for me and your storytelling might be better.
I'm just a dummy with a microphone but I thank you
Not only do I enjoy your audios because of your many hours you must spend researching, but I LOVE your humor that you inject at just the right time, every time. In my humble opinion, you are the BEST!
Wow, thank you!
Thanks Josh for this information about Jim Bridger and the time and area he lived in. I knew a little of Bridger but I have enjoyed learning more.
Yeeehaw! Been waiting for this one! Enjoy everyone, we got a new wild west extravaganza to enjoy!
Boom boom
That’s one smooth looking Native American.
My step dad,was half Blackfoot.
I've trucked through the most beautiful country.
The Blackfoot Res. in Montana
I hope to visit that area one day
I totally agree with all your admirers- having grown up in northwestern Nebraska, very familiar with Native culture and events throughout the Dakotas and Wyoming. Well researched and presented.
Yeeeeeeah boyz! Pewpewpewpew!
I’m just a kid that grew up in Klamath Falls, Oregon, was a beautiful place to grow up, the area around the city is a playground for people that like the outdoors.
I bet
Thanks!
Greetings Josh I enjoyed as always. If you compare the pure numbers of killed whites the Blackfoot were not top notch if you take a look at the Cheyenne and of course the Kiowa. The beaver here in Germany were merely exinct for 50 years ,now they're a pest espcecialy for farmers. After millions of bucks later it's allowed to kill some. But it's prosecuted to use the pelt. That's our government. Stay healthy from Northern Germany Ludwig.
Love that you say Blackfeet
I live very close to the Blackfeet Nation in Montana …
Seems as though the tribal members are offended if referred to as he Blackfoot …
Love your work .
Thanks! I don't say Blackfeet in an attempt to combat political correctness or anything - I just only know them by that name. If they'd prefer a different name I would use it.
THE Blackfoot confederacy is of three tribes: Bloods, Piegans, Blackfoot. to group them all under the name Blackfeet is wholly incorrect and offensive to a Blood, Peigan or Blackfoot
Blackfoot people are from Canada, Blackfeet are from Montana
Thanks
I believe the name "big throat" came with drunken insults. it was rumored the man who started the moniker was found suffocated by a piece of 🦬 meat. Someone in the party wrote Keeled by big throte 1832.
While the exact piece of meat was not specified I am confident I know what part was used. Possibly from a rival trapping party?
Most of the towns in the western United States with “Hole” in the name was because they were in a valley surrounded by mountains Jackson’s Hole is surrounded by mountain peaks and is a prime trapping area of mountain man Davey Jackson.
But I played basketball against the Flathead Boys in HighSchool back in the 1980’s they were still at war with us white boys even then they beat the heck out of us every game and after the games more than once there were fist fights but in those days it ended with a hand shake and the better fighter walked away with his head held high.
The Reservation Games were the only time I didn’t wear my glasses because if you wore glasses they were gonna get broke for sure it was elbows and fist flying all over the place it was crazy but as I think back sure was fun especially now I know it was Clark that started the whole thing lol
Very well done as always.I find it interesting the picture you have here is a native with a breast plate made from the side plates of like 15 Hudson bay northwest trade guns lol
I didn't catch that! That makes it even cooler!
Great work man! Thank you for putting it out for us to enjoy.
I stumbled upon your channel by chance....couldn't be happier about this!!! Your videos are absolutely awesome!!!👍👍👍
Awesome! Thank you!
New to social media , have read everything could get hands on about this history , now new subscriber . Thanks glad algorithm lead me here
Welcome aboard!
Well road apples I double comment on the last video. Wouldn't ya know it one belongs here
Love listening to
Thank you
Keep up the great work. Cant wait to hear more
Thank you, sir. Enjoyed your nickel plating video yesterday
Thank you Josh. Glade you enjoyed it.
Great story telling. I enjoyed hearing the drainage by drainage account. I lived in Green River WY for 10 years and visited the places you mention. Congratulations on getting pronunciation of Gros Venture correct but Popo Aggie is pronounced pa P.O ja
Love all your stuff. I haven’t missed one yet. Keep all the awesome content coming!
Thank you
Love this.. and Thank you.. Home Skillet
Thank you!
Thanks for this great history!
My pleasure!
Just good, good stuff. Many thinks !
Thank you
@@WildWestExtravaganza Many thanks for the many 'Thinks' you've set other followrs as wel as myself off on. Love 'Time-Traveling'.
Wow ! Josh you tell good stories ! Please keep up the good work !
Glad you like them!
@@WildWestExtravaganza i been subscriber for a little while ! I am impressed ! Definitely gonna keep listening !
Im from Pomo Tribe in California . i would like a story about Pomo . just an idea . thank you very much for your stories .
That fella on the cover pic has side oats gramma in his hair! Texas state grass... keep up the good work
Another great episode man
Thanks Chris
I may of been born 100+ years later but man I love and know how to find the beaver
Been listening to the audiobook of Jim Beckwourth's autobiography.
The man was clearly not encumbered by a crippling degree of humility. Very enjoyable, though.
Ha!
I love Beckworth's autobiography. I've read it twice, once for me and once to my kids (we homeschool). It certainly gives a flavor of the Old West that isn't easily forgotten. And my 12 year old son really loved Pine Leaf! 😁
I too would LOVE to hear all of these stories from the Indian women point of view.
Congratulations on 15000 subscribers!! 🎉
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I really enjoy your channel. I can't understand why you don't have a million subscribers. Yet. But you will. Great job on the content and research and especially the humor.
Hell Yeah it’s Wednesday
My great grandma had a goiter. She never did want it removed for some reason. I guess people who were born before penicillin just couldn't shake their fear of the knife. Having watched so many die from surgery.
Wow, that might be
@@WildWestExtravaganza Sarcasm? Yeah that was a pretty obvious statement on my part. I do that sometimes.
@@robertalpy no, not at all! I meant that I can see how that fear could have stopped someone from getting it removed.
@WildWestExtravaganza lol. Yeah right. You were like duh. Obvious guy. Hehe
Four minutes in I had to stop like and subscribe. Can tell this is an awesome find.
Thanks Chuck!
Thank you for these casts.
As an aside the Popo Aggie is pronounced Poposia -with the “s” sounding like the “s” in Persia.
You are such a great story teller, especially when injecting your own humor and observations. Have you ever thought of or tried to. Be a professional narrator or story teller for Hollywood, colleges, animation and so on. Love your channel .
Many thanks
Good Morning . You continue to amaze. Please look into the story of Sam Steele when you have chance. Thank you, W
I will, he looks to have led an interesting life
Dude, awesome content for us history freaks 😂😂
Skeliwhu, damn good episode. Enrolled Bitterroot Salish and Peigan decendent.
Thank you!
From Northern British Columbia
Great stuff. Thanks. Always read it as Sir William Drummond Stewart. Not Walter.
I had Walter Noble Burns on the mind
You do a veery good podcast😂 love the show bud 👍
Much appreciated
@@WildWestExtravaganza I listen almost every day while running a 1300 ton forge press helps get me through the day you're doing a good thing
Seems like these writers man crushing quite a bit
Beaver great job I got Catch up on Bridger episodes. You going to do the battle of the bighorn or custer think we all like to hear ya cover that
They were trapping Beaver by day and Eating Beaver by the moonlight at night !!!!
Sadly two foot beaver was even more scarce than 4 foot beaver.
Not salt; Iodine deficiency. Iodine was added to table salt to prevent the thyroid weakness. Morton marketed it as "Iodized; when it rains it pours!".
"I don't know what it means, but it sounds kinda uppity."
More bangers than the UK in this bitch. Keep em coming friend.
Bangers and mash, lol.
Hope all is well sir.
Bout time! Zheesh.
(Subscribed to newsletter. I'll give the $ but I won't "pledge" a cent. That kind of rhetoric is for those preachers who see we their congregants as but merchandise. II Peter 2:3)
Word.
I like to metal detect the rendevu places
Find anything cool?
@@WildWestExtravaganza lol. I said I would LIKE too..
@danieljones1981
No you didn't
I'm not sure you can call them blackfeet anymore, and be socially correct 💯💪
NO! U CALL EM AFIRCAN AMERICANS!
@@shermancomer4295 get a clue
I love this shit dude.. thank you
Thanks Jake
The term "flat head" indians is not a derogatory term. They were called such because of the practice of flattening the skulls at young age because of course it was very much attractive in their culture.
That's a common misconception. It was a bad translation with French trappers via sign. The trappers misinterpreted what they were saying.
Reminds me of The Revenant
Enjoyed the video with one exception a brief mention of a common misunderstanding which is pervasive in the saga of pioneers vs Indians. That is , the pioneers went around deliberately spreading disease to the Indians as some evil power they possessed .
The diseases of tue pioneers were as just as devastating to the pioneers as the Indians , none of them wanted to contract small pox or consumption (tuberculosis) or any other devastating and or fatal disease
It was an unfortunate part of life for the pioneers as well as the Indians they contacted.
Thank you! One thing, though...I never said that pioneers went around deliberately spreading diseases.
Kenny McIntosh is the first American in the 21st century to bag as many beavers as Jim Bridger.
Liked.and Subbed,Max Liverpool England
Interesting economics of the fur trading companies.
Wasn’t it the Zuni that threw the in Willa Cathers “ death comes to the archbishop.
How about a video about Ben Wright and the northern California rangers and the modoc
Check out the recent video on Captain Jack & the Modoc.
@WildWestExtravaganza I did my family grew hay for the cavalry horses at Ft Bidwell where he was hanged. Also Massacre lake 1894 would be good and a nice example of Indians deciding to live in peace rather than fighting was the paiute chief leading his people from the Klamath reservation where they were attacked to live by the military outpost in Ft. Bidwell so they could not be accused of attacking wagon trains
@WildWestExtravaganza though it's politically sensitive there's the round valley wars. I personally believe that it was 50/50 settler native confrontation not the "massacre" portrayed by DEI is and an episode about land swindlers like McConaughey and the MC ranch he personally swindled my family
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Did you say Pagan? As in People Against Good And Normalcy?
I seriously doubt anyone under 40 gets that reference and also really doubt anyone over 40 does either.
I did! In this case, though, it's spelled Piegan
@@WildWestExtravaganza People Intensely and Energetically Against Good And Normalcy?
Wait, that didn’t work. I added an extra A. Let me think about this and try again later.
Is that a "Naked Gun" reference? The goat leggings crew?
@@jimmylight4866 it’s from the Tom Hank/Dan Ackroyd movie Dragnet. They did a rap video. It is really bad.
I'll go rhythm
Semper Fly
"He knew prime beaver and he knew how to find it." 🫵😉👏👏👏
That should be a t-shirt
🦫 😂
2 minutes in and hit the subscribe button. 🤠
Little known fact that mountain men were also known as "Furbies" back in the day.
My personal experience was that the Blackfeet are pretty damned mean. They jumped me for speaking to a girl. I had no problem with her brother swinging on me, but the others were real assholes.
I thought the show Dawson Creek sucked
Flat heads… flat head lake, one of the most beautiful places in Montana.
Yes indeed
Been in Flathead county since 2003…
Beautiful Place
Blackfeet beaver,I'll pass...😂😂
Joshua…
I know this is not the episode where you mentioned that the Mormons / Joseph Smith did not like Jim Bridger ….
Very curious as to why .
Why didn't they like each other?
I don’t know …
Forgive me if I was mistaken..
Thought I heard it on one of your programs …
Which I listen to a lot .
Thanks! I think it's on the next episode in the series titled Mormons, the one with porter Rockwell's face on the thumbnail
Thank You
I’ll definitely be giving it a listen .
😎
Piegan is spelled correctly
Are you referring to the captions?
I’m Piegan and you spelled it wrong
Where is it spelled wrong?
There's five sides to every story.
Agreed
After listening to all you post, I feel that all these tribes were unjustly portrayed unfairly. They were living before us and only fought back to protect there family's. May I say please except my sorry on what we did to your great nations.
Im only asking this out of curiosity but you sound like your black? Not that I really care about those things but if you are it's just unusual to see this sort of topic covered especially in such intricate and eloquent detail.. regardless of who you are I can tell your both highly intelligent and well read/learned and I give you great props👏👏also I'd love to point out I love the jokes you crack by referencing them rather than actually cracking them and the way you pull it off is comic brilliance..so glad this video was recommended..btw I'm not even 8 mins into the video yet
Nah, I'm a blue eyed white boy