Chino Moreno Vocal Analysis - My Own Summer - Deftones - Isolated Vocals - Singing & Production Tips

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    Using the original isolated vocal recordings, you get to hear Chino's performances and recording techniques used in a whole new way.
    The vocal production effects including dynamics processing and not-so-subtle mixing tricks coupled with Chino's priceless "whisper to shriek" make for one of the most recognizable sounds of the heavy 90s.
    Explore custom created vocal effects chains that emulate what's in the original recording and learn how to interact with your voice (singing and screaming) to get the most out of the whole sound and experience!

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  • @Indrid-Cold
    @Indrid-Cold 3 роки тому +746

    Some CRAZY anecdotes on the real production/recording of these vocals:
    1. Chino used an SM58, handheld, in the live room, without headphones. Instead of HP’s, The producer, Terry, set up NS10’s on floor stands in The room with Chino. That’s where you get the crazy and inconsistent bleed. He was always facing the monitors, so there was plenty of off axis rejection, but he would Pace around as he sang and even kneel. Terry said that, at that time, Chino was very shy with recording vocals, and would do his best to move into a corner somewhere where he couldn’t be seen easily through the divider window 😂 Anyhow...Not sure if it was one NS10 or two for Chino, But Terry used the SM58/NS10 combo trick with several vocalists, on several huge albums. Terry was just famous for allowing vocalists to do whatever they were comfortable with to get the best performance. That included cupping the microphone. He did have to intervene with Chino, however, and show him how to cup the mic more mildly, and how to change his grip up more effectively and consistently when he wanted to create different sounds, like the whispers and boxed sound effects. So many recording faux pas, but it totally worked.
    2. It WAS recorded with Protools.
    “I’d walk into a studio and they were charging me huge amounts of money to rent a ProTools rig, I just went out and I bought one. It was actually when we were doing “Around The Fur”. I had my assistant, a guy named Ulrich Wild who has gone on to do pretty good stuff himself. I said, “Okay, Ulrich, your job for the next two weeks is to figure out how to fucking run this thing because I’m not going to. I’m too old for that shit.” -Terry Date
    3. Terry preferred Neve 1081’s over 1073’s.
    4. “I love my Neve modules, some API modules, an 1176 - I use those a lot for vocals. But that’s kind of my “comfort zone” compressor. The bus compressor used was an Alan Smart C2.”
    5. Lastly, other than hitting the compressor hard, the only tape saturation/distortion effect used was hilariously LO-FI... “It was a Casio four-track cassette. And we plug the microphone into the preamp on that thing and just turned it up - and that was the distortion on that vocal. Problem is, that was like an MCI tape deck and I think an MCI 500 console. The tape deck was so old I’d have to clean the heads after every time I stopped tape because the tape was just shedding.”
    ***This is the most insane detail for me. He plugged the microphone into the shitty Casio😂🤣???!?! Come on, Terry! At least I have the common decency to plug the Casio in like an outboard piece of gear, and assign it to a send, so you can blend the effect later! Nevertheless, I admire his low-fi balls.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому +127

      Comment pinned. This is awesome. Had so much fun reading this. Thank you!!

    • @petermunters4578
      @petermunters4578 3 роки тому +16

      Terry Date get it done!!! Wow!

    • @blaythessteuer
      @blaythessteuer 3 роки тому +14

      you rock for this. thanks for the insight!

    • @yawns3004
      @yawns3004 3 роки тому +23

      This is really cool and I don't understand half of it

    • @motusproductions3012
      @motusproductions3012 3 роки тому +8

      This is the best comment on UA-cam. Period. Thanks for the sharing.

  • @MalevoSuave
    @MalevoSuave 3 роки тому +631

    After listening to this I came to the conclusion that Chino Moreno's voice is the precursor of the ASMR 🔥🖤

    • @lucianof84
      @lucianof84 3 роки тому +2

      Hahahah

    • @goctagonrecovery3270
      @goctagonrecovery3270 3 роки тому +20

      Yess he definetly has some asmr vibes in his vocals. I thought that before I even knew what asmr was haha

    • @tommj4365
      @tommj4365 3 роки тому +11

      Bob ross also kinda did the asmr thing on tv

    • @EnragedSephiroth
      @EnragedSephiroth 3 роки тому +3

      It most definitely is.

    • @tb5674
      @tb5674 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂 Thought the same! Good call!

  • @OGM_OriginalGameMusic
    @OGM_OriginalGameMusic 3 роки тому +199

    His voice, man. Its just so... abstract.
    People can say he's not a good "singer" but thats not really the point. His voice is the equivalent of a dissonant metal guitar. He's an amazing vocalist, using his voice as an instrument more than the people who claim "they use their vocals as an instrument"

    • @jlopez1017d
      @jlopez1017d 2 роки тому +13

      I always tell people getting into Deftones to not look too much into the lyrics. His voice is as you said more of an instrument and a vibe, at least to me. Half the time I don’t even know what he’s singing and the Deftones are in my Mt. Rushmore of artists.

    • @kdakan
      @kdakan Рік тому +2

      There's always a balance to creating sound effects and noises vs. creating melodies and harmonies, vs. creating rhythm and groove with the voice and with the instruments as well. Some people tend more towards the other end but it's a preference, not a sign of being better or worse.

    • @kalreynolds5829
      @kalreynolds5829 Рік тому +7

      I don't know anyone with sense who would say he's not a "good" singer. He's clearly a genius singer and composer, technique wise he's just idiosyncratic. I wouldn't call it using vocals as an instrument either, he's literally just putting the same sort of effort into the vocal lines that you'd do writing for a lounge diva, which absolutely kills in the context of the music.
      Too many metal and hard rock people figure the riff is complicated enough, so they make the vocal line simple and repetitive and melodically uninteresting as a result. Chino will literally bend the pitch to do his vocal runs, and fit that into a single syllable, he'll sing in a different key if needbe. It's great.

    • @v.xien.
      @v.xien. 3 місяці тому +1

      I usually pay attention to lyrics the most but when it comes to deftones and nirvana that shit goes out the window and I just focus on the voice. Plus it’s hard to tell what tf Kurt and chino are saying 💀 even if I know the song for years I still be like “what did he say?” sometimes 😭

  • @AlxRo66
    @AlxRo66 3 роки тому +180

    Chino is such a unique and expressive singer. It can be very emotional listening to his performances.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому +9

      I agree!

    • @marcuschavez8411
      @marcuschavez8411 2 роки тому +1

      @@chrisliepe I heard smile for the first time recently and it's one of my favorite songs, but I was like damnit deftones, bout to make me tear up and shit over here

  • @chipmcdip8629
    @chipmcdip8629 3 роки тому +211

    Around the Fur is a brilliant album

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 3 роки тому +322

    What makes Chino amazing, in my opinion, is not so much his singing but his melody writing. He might legitimately write the most interesting melodies in rock music. He's constantly singing notes outside the chord. You can hear it just a couple measures in on the word "over." He sings the flat 5th (I think) and then sort of bends up to the 5th but doesn't quite get there. He always inspires me to be more creative with my note choices as well as sing the microtones in between notes. You can get away with anything as long as there is intentionality behind it.

    • @IDontLikePplPlayinOnMyPhone
      @IDontLikePplPlayinOnMyPhone 3 роки тому +11

      I’ve always acutely been aware of that myself! Made me wonder VERY early on in the bands existence, if it was actually one of the most central concepts to their sound and approach to music generally...anyhow, this paradox approach toward chino’s vocal melodies was very successful in the results of course....and his “anti-melodic” approach lead to the writing of some very beautiful sounding vocal, ironically known for standing out in the heavy music of that time for being uniquely far more melodic then their counterparts in the scene and time! And anyhow, in my thoughts since this first occurred to me, I can’t help but wonder if that very concept might have been the motivation for them deciding to take on the moniker, “The Deftones”; both referring to the condition of being Tone-Deaf as the vocals rarely were in key in a traditional sense, as well is the use of double entendre...not only a subversion of musical norms by defying status quo, but it’s like, “f you established scene AND music in general! Call us tone deaf if you want but we are democratically proven to be “def” because of it! For anyone to old or young, “def” was one of the positive transient terms for “hip” in the late 80’s to mid 90’s (ie; the labels Def Jam, Def Jux, then Definitive Jux after lawsuit lol). So it’s kinda like what sounds like a simple and easily dated brag, was really a pretty clever original idea and I dunno, like 25 years or so later, Deftones are still a stand out band who has never really lost their cool factor, or their ability to bring in new and super dedicated fans because of the way the stand out and emotionally connect, even in ways music theory says, shouldn’t have any emotional merit among the common listener (meaning non-art music, pretentious snobby listener who listens to the most minimalist John Cage performance art in their car as if it were enjoyable). Everyone who gives probably White Pony more than the rest, the time and open mind for a full active listen almost always seems to “get it” rather quickly and fall in love with the way chino can connect on a kinda subconscious human level. Not to mention it seems to me like lots of teen girls (and other prob) dig his effeminate yet Masculine approach with all the whispering and what not lol
      TL;DR does the bands name, I’ve always wondered, come from his anti-academy approach to melodies and doing the very opposite of what’s considered “melodic” by western music theory in pop music to this day...therefore branding themselves as “tone deaf” and yet “def”, aka ill/hip/fucking cool whatever u prefer, because of it making them, Deftones!

    • @svenskafester
      @svenskafester 3 роки тому +7

      @@IDontLikePplPlayinOnMyPhone about their name:
      "Carpenter created the band's name by combining the hip hop slang term "def" (which was used by artists such as LL Cool J and Public Enemy) with the suffix "-tones," (which was popular among 1950s bands such as Dick Dale and the Del-Tones, The Quin-Tones, The Delltones, The Monotones, The Cleftones and The Harptones)"

    • @malcolmadams2105
      @malcolmadams2105 3 роки тому

      Nice

    • @jesseg6890
      @jesseg6890 2 роки тому +4

      he’ll literally go a 16th of a step up & down from a note in key it’s insane not even a guitar can replicate his vocal movements unless it’s like a slide guitar or somethin’

    • @acidgoosemusic
      @acidgoosemusic 2 роки тому +1

      @@jesseg6890 guitars can bend strings, and pre bend

  • @DannyGrc
    @DannyGrc 3 роки тому +313

    His screams on Hexagram are honestly pretty brutal lol

    • @Kcdavis79
      @Kcdavis79 2 роки тому +4

      Great song!

    • @jauws4200
      @jauws4200 2 роки тому +1

      @@Kcdavis79 fax

    • @cx2865
      @cx2865 Рік тому

      yup, thats actually the song that brought me here tbh

    • @JamminWithJer
      @JamminWithJer Рік тому +1

      That song makes me wanna drive fast

    • @Papabandana
      @Papabandana 11 місяців тому

      I’d say Needles & Pins is what takes the cake off the self titled.
      Second is WGTB and then Hexagram.
      That inhaling scream he does near the end of Needles and Pins always makes me levitate.

  • @spiderboris79
    @spiderboris79 3 роки тому +62

    So it's been 20 years but I never realized he was saying 'cloud' until now

  • @theyounggreg4602
    @theyounggreg4602 3 роки тому +49

    That last little scream is absolutely Chi. Love love. #oneloveforchi

  • @cropcircle5693
    @cropcircle5693 3 роки тому +79

    His vocal recording style is born directly from late 80's early 90's industrial music. An astounding amount of the vocals from this era were marked by the tight slappy delay detailed here. It was often referred to as "100 millisecond delay" as a general starting point fairly prominent in the mix, everybody did it. NIN, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, Ministry, FLA, Filter and on and on all did this. Chino loves that shit!
    This video is a great breakdown for getting this sound quickly!

  • @arrik1337
    @arrik1337 3 роки тому +59

    Best band. Totally unbiased btw.

  • @shatteredsquare
    @shatteredsquare 3 роки тому +20

    that first CLOUD scream on chorus 1 is the best metal scream I've ever heard on anything

  • @antonigumua6548
    @antonigumua6548 3 роки тому +110

    That's INSANE how much knowledge you have on production too. You made it sound so symilar holy

  • @yankeeclipper28
    @yankeeclipper28 3 роки тому +10

    Such a Morrisey/Robert Smith/Sade style with pure aggression while making it all his own trademark.

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 3 роки тому +33

    One of my favourite vocalists. Never too polished, great versatility and always authentic

  • @FiletMyYawn
    @FiletMyYawn 3 роки тому +13

    The mysterious scream at the very end is from Chi, who used to do the "shove it" parts for Chino during live shows.

  • @rowanb4395
    @rowanb4395 3 роки тому +6

    Read this quote about the vocal sound once upon a time :
    The Chino vocal sound is usually based on a healthy amount of quick
    compression and patch #23 on the SPX 90... a doubler effect with the left side 5-10 cents flat, and the right side 5-10 cents sharp. Also swimmy delays. Terry and I are both fans of the Zoom 9030 box, originally made for guitars (and it's not great on guitars) but perfect for nutty vocal and drum effects.

  • @AltMetalVocalCovers
    @AltMetalVocalCovers 7 місяців тому +5

    I’m so grateful you made this video Chris. Your callout of the yell vs the screech is whats fascinated me about Chino for over 20 years. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve replayed the chorus of this song.

  • @andrewhemmer7933
    @andrewhemmer7933 3 роки тому +33

    As an old school fan of the deftones and as an audio engineer, this is spot on and awesome!

  • @benjigates
    @benjigates 3 роки тому +16

    I’m going to add this effect to all my phone calls. “Hello, is this the bank? I’d like to check my DEPOSIT!”

  • @ghostgirl11
    @ghostgirl11 11 місяців тому +3

    12:10 omgg this gave me chills

  • @arnodesogus3540
    @arnodesogus3540 3 роки тому +28

    That sounded so creepy. Very inspiring video and fun to watch. Makes me wanna experiment with extraordinary sounds.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому +5

      YES! I love the exploration aspect of this kind of thing.

    • @arnodesogus3540
      @arnodesogus3540 3 роки тому +2

      @@chrisliepe Yeah, and it feels even better when you succeed in it. I once tried to recreate a certain bass sound, I was very happy with the end result even though it was a little different. It's about trying new things and adding flexibility and new tools to your skill set. And I think you do a great job in describing the details in all these topics :)

  • @tommj4365
    @tommj4365 3 роки тому +28

    I made the mistake of listening to this in the restroom too loudly and only realized it as I walked out and everyone is staring at me concerned

  • @DeAguaMusic
    @DeAguaMusic 3 роки тому +20

    Best ASMR on UA-cam

  • @camillegriot4299
    @camillegriot4299 3 роки тому +40

    The “Shove it” part is not sung by Chino Morreno but by Chi Cheng the late Deftones’ bassist

    • @guitaristssuck8979
      @guitaristssuck8979 3 роки тому +39

      Live was sung by Chi, but I think it's Chino on the record

    • @imyourpapi261
      @imyourpapi261 3 роки тому +26

      Live was chi but on the record it's definitely Chino

    • @XViTNg
      @XViTNg 3 роки тому +7

      As the other comments say I can say with 100 percent certainty chino did all the vocals on the record. And Chi did it live

    • @kolosse
      @kolosse Рік тому +1

      ​@@XViTNg But I'm pretty sure that's Chi we hear on the hidden track Damone.

  • @SirHiggalot
    @SirHiggalot 3 роки тому +22

    Holy shit when you yelled into the mic with that tape saturation and all those other effects that sounded amazing. I love that nasty sound. Like you're just screaming your lungs out (even though you're not).

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому +9

      It's a super fun experience to build a chain like that and just let loose. I had to cut out so much screaming in editing to keep the video moving cause I'd just get lost in it haha.

  • @SimoneVolpin
    @SimoneVolpin 3 роки тому +12

    I'm in love with the voice of Chino Moreno 🎤🤘🏻

  • @ollyoliver4527
    @ollyoliver4527 3 роки тому +46

    If I recall, Chino has recorded several Deftones albums holding the mic rather than singing into a mic on a stand, so that cupping sound is probably him literally just cupping the mic.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому +10

      It definitely sounds like it!

    • @junkyardwillie8320
      @junkyardwillie8320 3 роки тому +4

      In some songs, you can even hear him kind of tossing the mic around. There are some fun stories about how he used to destroy microphones. I hear a lot about his mic cupping, and how sometimes he even incorporates it as an instrument in the song. The song hexagram is a great example of that

    • @Indrid-Cold
      @Indrid-Cold 3 роки тому +4

      @@chrisliepe -Some CRAZY anecdotes on the real production/recording of these vocals:
      1. Chino used an SM58, handheld, in the live room, without headphones. Instead of HP’s, The producer, Terry, set up NS10’s on floor stands in The room with Chino. That’s where you get the crazy and inconsistent bleed. He was always facing the monitors, so there was plenty of off axis rejection, but he would Pace around as he sang and even kneel. Terry said that, at that time, Chino was very shy with recording vocals, and would do his best to move into a corner somewhere where he couldn’t be seen easily through the divider window 😂 Anyhow...Not sure if it was one NS10 or two for Chino, But Terry used the SM58/NS10 combo trick with several vocalists, on several huge albums. Terry was just famous for allowing vocalists to do whatever they were comfortable with to get the best performance. That included cupping the microphone. He did have to intervene with Chino, however, and show him how to cup the mic more mildly, and how to change his grip up more effectively and consistently when he wanted to create different sounds, like the whispers and boxed sound effects. So many recording faux pas, but it totally worked.
      2. It WAS recorded with Protools.
      “I’d walk into a studio and they were charging me huge amounts of money to rent a ProTools rig, I just went out and I bought one. It was actually when we were doing “Around The Fur”. I had my assistant, a guy named Ulrich Wild who has gone on to do pretty good stuff himself. I said, “Okay, Ulrich, your job for the next two weeks is to figure out how to fucking run this thing because I’m not going to. I’m too old for that shit.” -Terry Date
      3. Terry preferred Neve 1081’s over 1073’s.
      4. “I love my Neve modules, some API modules, an 1176 - I use those a lot for vocals. But that’s kind of my “comfort zone” compressor. The bus compressor used was an Alan Smart C2.”
      5. Lastly, other than hitting the compressor hard, the only tape saturation/distortion effect used was hilariously LO-FI... “It was a Casio four-track cassette. And we plug the microphone into the preamp on that thing and just turned it up - and that was the distortion on that vocal. Problem is, that was like an MCI tape deck and I think an MCI 500 console. The tape deck was so old I’d have to clean the heads after every time I stopped tape because the tape was just shedding.”
      ***This is the most insane detail for me. He plugged the microphone into the shitty Casio😂🤣???!?! Come on, Terry! At least I have the common decency to plug the Casio in like an outboard piece of gear, and assign it to a send, so you can blend the effect later! Nevertheless, I admire his low-fi balls.

    • @Oryyyt
      @Oryyyt 3 роки тому +5

      yeah cupping is not uncommon in extreme music no matter how much it's not recommended by most producers.

    • @emyserozzi8088
      @emyserozzi8088 3 роки тому +1

      Another singer who use the same technique as Chino (but for his screams) is Aaron Lewis of Staind.
      If you listen to Staind first three albums, you can definitely hear Aaron Lewis cupping the Mic during the screaming parts of some heavier songs. Raw, Spleen, Crawl, Can't Believe as well Send In The Clowns with COLD all were recorded with Aaron cupping his Mic.

  • @TarunMusicTv
    @TarunMusicTv 3 роки тому +14

    Chino has been my favorite vocalist for the last 2 years! His very intimate singing style, brutal screams, soaring highs and whispers are just out of this world. Did I mention his amazing lyric writing?
    Also, with his vocals, he adds to the musical aura rather than being the centerpiece, and he does that like only a few others can. His vocals add a whole different meaning to all the songs that he has done with all his bands (Deftones, Palms, Team Sleep, Crosses etc.) and in collaborations with many other famous artists spanning multiple genres! Love him!

  • @coolestreviews5315
    @coolestreviews5315 3 роки тому +6

    Chino Mereno is one of my favorite singers.

  • @knelson1180
    @knelson1180 3 роки тому +7

    7:23 - Gawd Damn that was terrifyingly awesome!

  • @shredofmalarchi
    @shredofmalarchi 2 роки тому +40

    Please do this for "Knife Party" from White Pony. The vocal solo in that song is beyond stunning.

    • @Trillionphoenix
      @Trillionphoenix Рік тому

      I concur!....please dissect h8s white pony vocals. There is so much going on there.

  • @andrewmiller9265
    @andrewmiller9265 Рік тому +4

    Chris, you've got quite the scream!

  • @user-wv5gv3dw5u
    @user-wv5gv3dw5u 3 роки тому +13

    I'd love to hear your breakdown of his inhale screaming

  • @TemperedLion
    @TemperedLion 3 роки тому +19

    You recreated the signal chain and vocal techniques perfectly! Ranging from whispers to rage screams. Awesome breakdown of production stuff as well \m/

  • @Jewpacca
    @Jewpacca 3 роки тому +14

    "ASMR Vocal Tutorial with Chris Liepe"

  • @bigfan3788
    @bigfan3788 3 роки тому +5

    So neat to see how the mix brings out the textures of his voice! Love your stuff Chris

  • @bradylasserre9320
    @bradylasserre9320 3 роки тому +6

    The super wide slapback/chorus effect is from the SPX90 digital effects processor. With that said, you did a marvelous job of emulating it!

  • @lilysera7960
    @lilysera7960 Рік тому +1

    Yeah you're the greatest teacher to ever do it

  • @enriqueplanas
    @enriqueplanas 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing work Chris!!! Addicted to this analysis!

  • @thecarfires
    @thecarfires Рік тому

    hugs Crhis! im now in this video!! so amazin analysis!! grettings from Colombia, south america!

  • @ZanderJesusiaDay
    @ZanderJesusiaDay 3 роки тому +2

    This was excellent. Really great hearing you demo the effect with your own voice too. Great work

  • @blakeh946
    @blakeh946 3 роки тому +4

    That very final extra scream on the end was Chi! Never realized it before . This was an awesome experience and dude you are a very talented person.

  • @philippebedroom4665
    @philippebedroom4665 3 роки тому +3

    this is great Chris, it sounds extremely detailed

  • @GarrettKemp
    @GarrettKemp 3 роки тому +3

    the lords work. extremely accurate

  • @samchoate1719
    @samchoate1719 3 роки тому +1

    This is an amazing video. Thank you, Chris.

  • @taminem90
    @taminem90 7 місяців тому +1

    Very impressive breakdown Chris. You really know your stuff!

  • @andyarkgleger
    @andyarkgleger 3 роки тому +1

    I enjoy so much this Chris. Thank you

  • @jamiegunn
    @jamiegunn 3 роки тому +2

    This is very informative as far as recording vocals. Thanks again Chris for providing great content.

  • @XRL7official
    @XRL7official 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome video, Chris! Chino has such a unique voice

  • @wake_and_jake
    @wake_and_jake 3 роки тому +5

    Bro this is perfect I've always wondered how chinos vocals were processed thank you so much

  • @sinaardalan1823
    @sinaardalan1823 3 роки тому +3

    This song hits so hard! One of my all time favorites.

  • @acidgoosemusic
    @acidgoosemusic 2 роки тому +1

    I just really love the fact you sang and performed your way through all the instructions to the plug-ins. I learned it so much better this way.

  • @WinItReigns
    @WinItReigns Рік тому +1

    Ya know what Bro. You're great at what you bring to the Production table. You are real, your interest and passion are real too.
    You seem like a pretty cool dude.

  • @BrettTalleyMusic
    @BrettTalleyMusic Рік тому +2

    This is so spot-on. Kudos, sir.

  • @MichaelLeeMetalProject
    @MichaelLeeMetalProject 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome track! One of my fav of all times, great breakdown!

  • @ricardonikolac8524
    @ricardonikolac8524 3 роки тому +1

    SAVAGE!!!! great video as allways!! chris liepe for president!

  • @bobbyt4578
    @bobbyt4578 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for these videos brother, I finally bought myself an interface and recording equipment recently and these videos are just so helpful for ways to experiment with vocals.

  • @avoiceofyourown9652
    @avoiceofyourown9652 3 роки тому

    this is a fantastic video... Thanks for running with this one Chris

  • @killerkraken3674
    @killerkraken3674 2 роки тому

    so glad to see you've done more about chino

  • @walwin
    @walwin 3 роки тому +3

    Mate, you NAILED those chains. Like....wow 🤯

  • @fenderfox5080
    @fenderfox5080 3 роки тому +2

    Great job Chris!!! I think this is your best video yet, as far as figuring out how to get the effect of his voice. All your videos are gold, I bet I'm not the only one who would benefit from a video like this breaking down how to sound like Chino, awesome dude!!

  • @iletaMarchita
    @iletaMarchita 3 роки тому +89

    is insane, he completely destroyed his vocal chords in this record, damn. He never was the same afterwards, no technique, he gave everything on dis shit

    • @joetones86
      @joetones86 3 роки тому +31

      Yeah, it caught up during White Pony touring years, recovered a little during self titled, then completely destroyed by Saturday Night Wrist. That’s when he could only do those like yelps. I watch live videos before 2000 - absolutely mind blowing. Sounding just like the record. I honestly think he shouldn’t bother screaming anymore, just have the music be heavy and he sing on top.

    • @hounsdjentlow3074
      @hounsdjentlow3074 3 роки тому +4

      @@joetones86 yeah i saw him at download 2016 with the rest of the band and hes vocals killed the show for me and stopped me from looking deftones up for years

    • @movimentodoscacos
      @movimentodoscacos 3 роки тому +8

      @@joetones86 Lately his vocals seem to be a little better, given he's relegating more of the vocal work to Sergio (who's not the greatest vocalist but helps Chino a lot) and just not overdoing it anymore. He definitely should work with a coach tho.

    • @arsenije_wav8620
      @arsenije_wav8620 3 роки тому +10

      What is it with famous vocalists and becoming lazy and fat? A few months of professional lessons, which a musician of his caliber can surely afford, and he could get his technique back. Listening to newer deftones live shows is just sad...

    • @sv4940
      @sv4940 2 роки тому

      @@hounsdjentlow3074 just saw them like last week in seattle and he sounded great tbh

  • @AlexiKaruna
    @AlexiKaruna 3 роки тому +3

    What's really cool is seeing the range of dynamics and qualities that Chino used here... Looking forward to playing with my signal chain more and seeing what I can get out of my own voice, inspired by this

  • @Jerkcurb1
    @Jerkcurb1 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating. Great in depth analysis. Subscribed

  • @chogall2
    @chogall2 2 роки тому

    Nice! Thanks for making this!

  • @Polyruidoso
    @Polyruidoso 3 роки тому

    Chris your videos are awesome. I´ve not only improve my musical production knowledge but also my screams (a bit) so A LOT of thnks for sharing this with us.
    Saludos desde Argentina

  • @phoac
    @phoac 3 роки тому +1

    Oh wow thank you so much for this!

  • @deweypauljr7089
    @deweypauljr7089 3 роки тому +3

    What an incredible video. And the responses below, are full of amazing musical insight. As a producer, I find imperfect music from a theory stand point, especially for vocals, breaking all the rules, the most interesting and beautiful art, around. I am currently producing an up and coming artist, Curt Ryun, from the band Multnomah Drive, who emulates Chino to a perfection. The first time I heard the Deftone's personally, I thought it was Curt on the radio. He breaks all the rules, in every aspect of his song writing, production and performances. Imperfect, perfection. Man, I love this stuff.

  • @sheppymcshep
    @sheppymcshep 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Chris thanks for sharing this!

  • @dalekay9ine
    @dalekay9ine 3 роки тому +10

    The end of this is terrifying....truly creepy as fuck. Unsettling is an understatement...

  • @jeremycogar4576
    @jeremycogar4576 Рік тому +2

    You had to much fun making this 🤣

  • @littlemissscares666
    @littlemissscares666 2 роки тому +1

    I love ur video’s!!!! So cool to watch🤟🏻🖤I love Deftones !!

  • @johnnysguitarcorner5510
    @johnnysguitarcorner5510 3 роки тому +1

    OMG and I am already struggling playing just the guitar parts. It is crazy how much went in the production and mixing of all the bits and pieces of this fantastic song/album. This analyse is awesome, great job man.

  • @jamesbanks7313
    @jamesbanks7313 3 роки тому +30

    Chris, I'd LOVE to see you take a look at Daryl Palumbo from Glassjaw/Head Automatica/various other projects. I think he has some stuff in common with Chino but he sounds so unique and cool in his own way. His voice has also changed in a few interesting ways over the years so it'd be so so cool for you to take a look at him.

    • @movimentodoscacos
      @movimentodoscacos 3 роки тому +4

      Palumbo is an amazing vocalist. Always thought his vocals remind me of Chino in some aspects as well.

    • @batangdugo8113
      @batangdugo8113 3 роки тому +4

      Totally. Initial reason I bought Glassjaw's songs was because of Palumbo's Chino-esque vocal style. But on their newer tracks, I realized immediately how undeserved that is. No. He's actually catchy in his own way. He managed to sound as intense as Chino without that much mic effects, resulting to something more audibly primal as compared to Chino's more ethereal aura. Where Chino reaches straight to your subconscious like he's always singing some kind of chant meant for ayahuasca sessions, Dave gently assaults your actual senses as if his voice somehow materializes into a wild invisible entity born from the accumulated frustrations of you and all your ancestors, that could start throwing you around at any moment like it's some kind of a sadomasochistic Zen ritual or something required to help relieve you of all your negative thoughts and feelings.
      Chino's is more spiritual while Dave's is more well . . . physical, if that makes sense, is what I'm saying. Hahaha!

    • @jamesbanks7313
      @jamesbanks7313 3 роки тому +1

      @@batangdugo8113 I feel exactly what you mean. Chino is quite subversive and i always pictured his voice to be kind of like smoke or something floaty even when he's screaming, Palumbo is a battering ram in both senses imo

    • @Spacegeezer
      @Spacegeezer 7 місяців тому

      I was just gonna suggest that

  • @petermunters4578
    @petermunters4578 3 роки тому +3

    Revelatory. This song is ridiculous. Thank you Chris!!!

  • @adele_m43
    @adele_m43 Рік тому +1

    You have a divine voice ❤

  • @lalitasavardekar8192
    @lalitasavardekar8192 3 роки тому +2

    Chris - an expert, amazing learning 👍👍👍

  • @mikakettunen7939
    @mikakettunen7939 3 роки тому +1

    you are pure gold!

  • @isasecret
    @isasecret 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful vid legend🤘🏻

  • @lisalegato0109
    @lisalegato0109 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for doing Chino

  • @Lyanneone
    @Lyanneone 3 роки тому +1

    omg I need all his songs just with his voice 🖤🔥

  • @ferrenberg
    @ferrenberg 3 роки тому +1

    Now this what I'm living for

  • @cartoonvillains7080
    @cartoonvillains7080 3 роки тому +37

    It amazes me how you can hear so much band/headphone bleed and tape cuts. I think I’m being far too picky about my editing 🤣

    • @Indrid-Cold
      @Indrid-Cold 3 роки тому +7

      Some CRAZY anecdotes on the real production/recording of these vocals:
      1. Chino used an SM58, handheld, in the live room, without headphones. Instead of HP’s, The producer, Terry, set up NS10’s on floor stands in The room with Chino. That’s where you get the crazy and inconsistent bleed. He was always facing the monitors, so there was plenty of off axis rejection, but he would Pace around as he sang and even kneel. Terry said that, at that time, Chino was very shy with recording vocals, and would do his best to move into a corner somewhere where he couldn’t be seen easily through the divider window 😂 Anyhow...Not sure if it was one NS10 or two for Chino, But Terry used the SM58/NS10 combo trick with several vocalists, on several huge albums. Terry was just famous for allowing vocalists to do whatever they were comfortable with to get the best performance. That included cupping the microphone. He did have to intervene with Chino, however, and show him how to cup the mic more mildly, and how to change his grip up more effectively and consistently when he wanted to create different sounds, like the whispers and boxed sound effects. So many recording faux pas, but it totally worked.
      2. It WAS recorded with Protools.
      “I’d walk into a studio and they were charging me huge amounts of money to rent a ProTools rig, I just went out and I bought one. It was actually when we were doing “Around The Fur”. I had my assistant, a guy named Ulrich Wild who has gone on to do pretty good stuff himself. I said, “Okay, Ulrich, your job for the next two weeks is to figure out how to fucking run this thing because I’m not going to. I’m too old for that shit.” -Terry Date
      3. Terry preferred Neve 1081’s over 1073’s.
      4. “I love my Neve modules, some API modules, an 1176 - I use those a lot for vocals. But that’s kind of my “comfort zone” compressor. The bus compressor used was an Alan Smart C2.”
      5. Lastly, other than hitting the compressor hard, the only tape saturation/distortion effect used was hilariously LO-FI... “It was a Casio four-track cassette. And we plug the microphone into the preamp on that thing and just turned it up - and that was the distortion on that vocal. Problem is, that was like an MCI tape deck and I think an MCI 500 console. The tape deck was so old I’d have to clean the heads after every time I stopped tape because the tape was just shedding.”
      ***This is the most insane detail for me. He plugged the microphone into the shitty Casio😂🤣???!?! Come on, Terry! At least I have the common decency to plug the Casio in like an outboard piece of gear, and assign it to a send, so you can blend the effect later! Nevertheless, I admire his low-fi balls.

    • @jaymzOG
      @jaymzOG 3 роки тому

      I think as long as you pick a sound you like and commit to it, that's all that matters.

  • @virgosuicida07
    @virgosuicida07 3 роки тому

    This Is amazing Man, thanks 🖤💯🎧

  • @djmessina9278
    @djmessina9278 2 місяці тому

    Chino and Deftones got me through the 90’s!! lol.. And the combination of his warm, whispering vocals with the blood curdling screams? Opened up the door for me to so much other music, even though, in my opinion, everything else pales in comparison to Deftones. And Chino is such a cool guy too.

  • @DoctorFr0st
    @DoctorFr0st 3 роки тому +5

    I was waiting for this!!! The Deftones are one of the most interesting bands ever. I want to sing like Chino one day. Thank you so much, Chris. Greetings from Germany :)

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @DoctorFr0st
      @DoctorFr0st 3 роки тому +2

      @@chrisliepe It's so cool, that this video came out right after my birthday. I've been listening to Deftones the whole day and was singing along to it :)

  • @zoranpavlovic9540
    @zoranpavlovic9540 3 роки тому +2

    What I love in your videos is teaching to be oneself and even you do analysis of many different singers you encourage ppl to find their voice without clicheé. I freakin' love Dio but why should someone tell 'hey, that guy sounds like Dio'. That analysis is great even I am not into that kind of vocals. Keep on rockin'!!! 🤘👊

  • @destroy_you
    @destroy_you 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video, nice tips!

  • @wetsand7379
    @wetsand7379 3 роки тому +1

    this is so cool!

  • @FytchMusic
    @FytchMusic 3 роки тому +2

    Chris, this is money!!

  • @Hiroshima_Sunset
    @Hiroshima_Sunset 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome! Thanks Chris.

  • @malcolmadams2105
    @malcolmadams2105 3 роки тому

    I used to cover this song. And I think you’ve nailed it. That plate reverb hits

  • @originalvonster
    @originalvonster 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you. I feel like I need to rewatch this a few times. So much to learn.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching (multiple times). So glad you enjoyed!

  • @regaudieguillaume
    @regaudieguillaume 3 роки тому +2

    Oooh!!!! What a privilege !

  • @MadkeimMusic
    @MadkeimMusic 3 роки тому +1

    Super interesting, thanks!

  • @philippebedroom4665
    @philippebedroom4665 3 роки тому +1

    amazing !

  • @junkyardwillie8320
    @junkyardwillie8320 3 роки тому +2

    Yyeeesss!After your first Deftones video, I was thinking how there were actually still some things that you didn’t cover that I would’ve liked to hear you talk about, and even in this video, there are still some things that have not been addressed. It’s no fault of your own, it’s just that he’s got a wide range of techniques, some of them that I’ve never heard anybody else do before that I would be very interested to hear you talk about. I’d love to hear you analyze a song like cherry waves. I think that has some interesting stuff in it, filled with lots of emotion. I think his most interesting performances are the ones where he is really really feeling it, translating that raw emotion into his vocals

  • @SkeeterMcBeater
    @SkeeterMcBeater 3 роки тому +7

    All those effects would sound good on guitar too. Especially all that mid boost.

  • @cassl7001
    @cassl7001 3 роки тому

    amazing vid