Quit talking bad about your camera work! You show everything in focus and do a wonderful job explaining what you're talking about. Thank you and keep it up!
Haha - it is pretty old - I used to teach music in a local music store (remember when we had those?) and often I'd watch a piece of gear slowly gather dust for a while, then start on the owner... "How about $100 off? $50? It's just sitting there on your books..." - he'd get annoyed with me and say no, and 1-2 months later... "Just take it for X (usually the amount I asked for off) and get it out of here!" 😂
You’re very creative, thanks for the idea. I have the nitro max. I’ve upgraded to a snare stand, extra tom tom and cymbal, dw 3000 bass pedal. My next upgrade is the bass pad so I have some ideas. I purchased a drum rug as well and it really holds the bass pedal and doesn’t slide😁 Thank you!
Hi. Your videos are really usefull to learn more about surge and nitro mesh kit. In fact, if you want a more realistic view of your basedrum you can buy a gajate mounting (for cowbells and jam blocks) because the form of that clamp have the form exactly for a nitro pad and make a conversion for a bassdrum pad like the surge and command mesh. Greetings.
Great idea. I have seen other videos of other guys trying different solutions but this one is amazing. I will try it as well for sure. Thank you for sharing this.
Hey Kevin. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but innovation is the father of creation. Nice job. I too have just started enjoying your videos and expect to gain much from them. I bought a Strike Pro set a couple of years ago and found it very cumbersome to virtually tear it all apart in order to move it to gigs. After a couple of months I went to the local hardware store and found a few items that allow me to keep the rack intact and carry it in and out of buildings without help. The whole frame folds in thirds without the drums and cymbals. If I was a great cinematographer like you, I would make a video of my innovative retro-fittings and share them. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
Hey! Talk about a flashback to the 90s! The Kevin Williams Killer Rimshot - I think my ears are still ringing from those. Thanks for your instruction back in the Reading Ma marching band and percussion ensembles in the 1992-1994 period of time. Anyway I picked up one of these kits and really hate the kick pad. I set up a mesh drum (the extension tom) exactly like you did here and like the response and feel better. The pad wasn't always registering particularly on doubles. I have the pedal clamped to the back ground plate same as you, but I don't find it is able to keep the pedal from rocking and such. Anyway you look exactly the same as you did 30 years ago!
Years ago I did all kinds of diy e stuff. One way to stabilize this kind of setup is to use a piece of 1/2" ply cut bigger than both the trigger and the pedal. Screw both to this as one piece. If you get creeping make the wood piece long enough to drill a large hole for your front throne foot. I had made one big enough for the whole rack and throne holes drilled for everything and painted black. Nothing moved.
Once again, thanks. I bought a Mapex double on sale for $85 from GC and the small Alesis pad wasn't cutting it. I was trying to figure out what I was going to do. Luckily I had bought an extra frame to reinforce my set. So per your video I decided to use my tom 4 pad and it works great. I just set the tom 3 rim with the voice I was using for the tom 4. Maybe later on I'll replace the tom 4.
That's awesome! I literally just sat down with the camera rolling and figured it out on the fly, so that's great (and kind of funny) that it's working for other people!
@@BustingsticksWithKW Would you recommend the silent strikes over the stock beater? I was thinking they may be a little more forgiving on the mesh than the stock ones.
Probably. Some suggest that the fuzzy beater will wear the mesh faster, but those heads are easily replaced as well. The lighter beater probably reduces the wear from pounding so I’d bet it’s a wash.
That's really cool information. But I read somewhere recently that the felt beaters will destroy mesh heads...you might want to consider the hard rubber or urethane beaters with a much smaller foot print, mine are over 20 years old and have been using as a double kick on a single PD-10 with the newer (1980's LOL) PD-11 (4" wide) trigger custom mounted into it.
Thats really creative! I switched my kick tower to an millenium mps mesh instead, since it was really cheap. I have pads and cymbals from all sorts of other brands and alesis kits. Never had any problem
@@BustingsticksWithKW I dont know about the MPS hi hat, but the MPS kicktower actually works better with alesis nitro than the nitro kicktower does. :D Becuase the original isnt very sensitive, also its loud and will eventually break.
Love your content! Love the extra Tom Tom pad for the kick on the Alesis. I have the same kit and live in an NYC apt so would love to use one of the Tom’s for now and I get the mounting part but what wires are you using to make it work. If you have time to answer and thank you for your videos and the time. Have a great day
I've been thinking about trying the first setup. Double bass, with adjusted arms and the regular kick pad. The problem I have is the kick pad is far too low in volume. I've tried blasting every option I could in voice and utility... I SLAM the kick, far harder than I ever would on an acoustic kit and it still isn't as loud as simply pressing the button on the module. I'm quickly giving up on that. Side note: I've noticed with the single pads/"toms", switching the voice to a snare, there is a sweet spot where, if the hit registers, it acts like it is a very hard hit (from the middle, move down, nearing the rim) Moving away from that spot will decrease volume.
You want to check out my video about getting the kit to play musically - I go over all the settings like sensitivity and such. That should take care of most of your issues. Also - tune you mesh heads up a bit - I find it evens out the triggering.
I have one more question...can two bass drum triggers be used by connecting them to the controller via 2 output to 1 input cable ??? Or a one in and two out box ??? 8:30 - Now I'm seeing what looks like a tom trigger pad that you are using as a bass trigger pad? Will that work?
It sure does! There are many options out there for the bass pad, from stock, to a tom pad, to 3rd party triggers, or in my case, a pad from 1985! I don’t think 2 in 1 out would work because of impedance values being split.
i know this video is a bit old, but for the ones who are having trouble with the alesis base drum pad barely receiving input, get a guitar distortion pedal, and connect it between the module and the pedal's input, after tweaking some of the settings on the pedal, the drum pad will receive much more input
Interesting. Basically you are applying electrical gain to the signal. To be clear, I’ve never had an issue with bass drum signal with the original tower or any replacement pad. First look at your settings for the trigger for sensitivity and level. I say have to turn down my bass drum in the mix!
dude.... this is exactly what i was considering doing. i currently have both high hat + kick sound both set to my left footpedal so i can do double bass just fine. it took some adjusting not having the same bounce on the left pedal, but i can actually do some interesting high hat kick combinations with current setup. ideal setup would be more like this though so i can use the high hat more freely without kick, and have that equal bounce for fast double bass work.
hey Kevin, greetings from Costa Rica. Amazing video. I did same as you, however, it looks like I do need a harder beater head or something like that, because I got to kick really hard to make it happen . I am trying to use regular commercial pedal . I saw a video from somebody that actually uses a skateboard wheel as a beater head..... any ideas??? Cheeers!
In the beginning of the video, I noticed the bass drum trigger pad has indentations from the beaters, especially the right side. I want to get this set, but that worries me. Can the pads be replaced and where do you get them? Or do you have to get the whole bass trigger, that is, if you can buy it separately? Also...is that black tennis balls on the beaters of the bass pedals ??? Or is that standard for the Pearl pedals?
I’m sure you can find parts on eBay - that’s where got my extras! As for the beaters, check out the link on my website under the Good Stuff for more info!
I realize this video is two years old, but maybe you’ll respond. I was wondering if you can just put a 1/4 splitter on your bass drum cable and run two pads. I haven’t tried it, but it seems like it would work.
@@BustingsticksWithKW I just split it with the regular (TS ) Y splitter. Both bass drums going into the same port on the module. Not actually splitting a rim or pad trigger. I’ve got them both on the same plug-in port.
i tried doing this, but i have the issue where the snare arm keeps falling out of the plastic joint, and keeps moving all over the place. is there any tips anyone can give on how to perhaps make the arm not fall out every 5 minuets?
@@BustingsticksWithKW what i ended up doing, was i noticed when i tightened the clamp down the plastic would meet in the middle, so i just took a file to it and made sure they didn't touch (maybe took about a 1/16 of an inch or less of material off not much at all) and then as a secondary measure, i brought a small set of ratchet straps and used one to go around the arm. been using this for about 2 days and it hasn't come out once!
I just figured it out literally the night of the video, so unless someone else had the idea before me, not sure how much real world clinical trial data is out there! Given how hard I hit the regular pads with sticks, I'm guessing that if you get the angles right (for example, there were no 90 degree angles to any part of the setup, so the forces generated by the beater were not directed toward a single point of structure or pressure) then it would be no worse than chasing the standard tower across the floor. Just don't overtighten to the point of cracking the connectors, and I think it would hold up pretty well.
@@michaelmaiwka4674 I'm using a bicycle quick release I guess bolt you would call it and it grips that post pretty good I haven't had to tighten it up at all it hasn't gone anywhere
you shouldnt use felt beaters on a mesh head, the felt will cause friction that will deteriorate the pad. Plastic or wood beaters will not damage the pad.
Possibly, but they are replaceable, and usually a bass drum beater does not slide across the head like a stick would, but it's a point to consider - thanks!
Thanks for the uploads! I received one if these from a band member so I don't have a manual at all. So I have the bass tower and a double pedal and my question is are there any settings for the pad to make it more sensitive to feel both beaters?
I’m not sure settings will help - more importantly is if you can get your beaters as close together so they both hit as close to the center as possible. I’m pretty sure my settings are pretty close to stock.
1:38 I buy all my music gear myself too. Weird, huh? Maybe someone would like to donate to me too. LOL! You have some pretty good, creative ideas. I’m using a Mapex 400 pedal. It works on my Nitro Max, but it’s not adjustable as far as the separation of beaters. They both hit the pad and trigger the sound, but I wish I couldn’t move the beaters closer together. Perhaps, my concern is baseless, but I worry that the edge of the kick pad may not tolerate repeated hits like the center can. These beaters are separated just enough that the left one strikes closer to the left edge than the center. Maybe it’s not an issue. Time will tell. The Nitro Max kick pad is 5 inches. I feel it’s just a bit small.
To be clear, the standard bass tower works just fine, but if you want to explore other options, I just started clamping things together - or dug out one from 1981.
Quit talking bad about your camera work! You show everything in focus and do a wonderful job explaining what you're talking about. Thank you and keep it up!
Haha thanks!
That retro UP pad is cool! That should be in a museum!
There may be one in a museum somewhere. I’m glad he’s sharing his here.
Haha - it is pretty old - I used to teach music in a local music store (remember when we had those?) and often I'd watch a piece of gear slowly gather dust for a while, then start on the owner... "How about $100 off? $50? It's just sitting there on your books..." - he'd get annoyed with me and say no, and 1-2 months later... "Just take it for X (usually the amount I asked for off) and get it out of here!" 😂
Was planning on doing this to my set. Nice to see how it works before I do it myself. Love the uploads!
Thank you for your support!
That was actually an ingenious idea for the bass pedal and pad!
Thanks! I do have a skill of taking a look around and seeing how parts and pieces might fit together - just one of those things!
You’re very creative, thanks for the idea. I have the nitro max. I’ve upgraded to a snare stand, extra tom tom and cymbal, dw 3000 bass pedal. My next upgrade is the bass pad so I have some ideas. I purchased a drum rug as well and it really holds the bass pedal and doesn’t slide😁 Thank you!
Thank you!
Hi. Your videos are really usefull to learn more about surge and nitro mesh kit. In fact, if you want a more realistic view of your basedrum you can buy a gajate mounting (for cowbells and jam blocks) because the form of that clamp have the form exactly for a nitro pad and make a conversion for a bassdrum pad like the surge and command mesh. Greetings.
That’s a fantastic idea! I was just trying to use what might be handy but that’s a great option too!
Great idea. I have seen other videos of other guys trying different solutions but this one is amazing. I will try it as well for sure. Thank you for sharing this.
Awesome - I literally sat down and said - how can I get this thing down there?
Kevin, I have hardwood floors in my cabin and I used 1.5 inch wide velcro for the hat and bass pedal and pad 😅 working excellent 👌 👍
That sounds like a lovely place to play!
Hey Kevin. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but innovation is the father of creation. Nice job. I too have just started enjoying your videos and expect to gain much from them. I bought a Strike Pro set a couple of years ago and found it very cumbersome to virtually tear it all apart in order to move it to gigs. After a couple of months I went to the local hardware store and found a few items that allow me to keep the rack intact and carry it in and out of buildings without help. The whole frame folds in thirds without the drums and cymbals. If I was a great cinematographer like you, I would make a video of my innovative retro-fittings and share them. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
Thank you, and it’s great to be handy, isn’t it?! 🤩
This is exactly what I was thinking about doing. Awesome. Thanks. Now to make sure they don't raise the price back up again before I buy one
They were just on sale a few weeks ago, and some great 4th of July (in the US) coupons or sales happening!
That’s so creative! I never thought to use a pad for the bass drum. It’s a lot cheaper then buying a mesh one that’s for sure
Thanks!
I would recommend a protective patch on any mesh bass drum head. Just replaced my worn out one and the head still looks like new.
That’s a great tip!!
What protective patch did you use?
@@tylerwilson8270 That's what I want to know too.
What did you use?
Does it affect the sensitivity on the kick pad at all ???
Hey! Talk about a flashback to the 90s! The Kevin Williams Killer Rimshot - I think my ears are still ringing from those. Thanks for your instruction back in the Reading Ma marching band and percussion ensembles in the 1992-1994 period of time. Anyway I picked up one of these kits and really hate the kick pad. I set up a mesh drum (the extension tom) exactly like you did here and like the response and feel better. The pad wasn't always registering particularly on doubles. I have the pedal clamped to the back ground plate same as you, but I don't find it is able to keep the pedal from rocking and such. Anyway you look exactly the same as you did 30 years ago!
Glad you found me - hope you’ll get some ideas here, and glad you’re still playing!!
Years ago I did all kinds of diy e stuff. One way to stabilize this kind of setup is to use a piece of 1/2" ply cut bigger than both the trigger and the pedal. Screw both to this as one piece. If you get creeping make the wood piece long enough to drill a large hole for your front throne foot.
I had made one big enough for the whole rack and throne holes drilled for everything and painted black. Nothing moved.
Brilliant!
Once again, thanks. I bought a Mapex double on sale for $85 from GC and the small Alesis pad wasn't cutting it. I was trying to figure out what I was going to do. Luckily I had bought an extra frame to reinforce my set. So per your video I decided to use my tom 4 pad and it works great. I just set the tom 3 rim with the voice I was using for the tom 4. Maybe later on I'll replace the tom 4.
That's awesome! I literally just sat down with the camera rolling and figured it out on the fly, so that's great (and kind of funny) that it's working for other people!
@@BustingsticksWithKW Would you recommend the silent strikes over the stock beater? I was thinking they may be a little more forgiving on the mesh than the stock ones.
Probably. Some suggest that the fuzzy beater will wear the mesh faster, but those heads are easily replaced as well. The lighter beater probably reduces the wear from pounding so I’d bet it’s a wash.
@@BustingsticksWithKW thanks for the reply, Kevin.
Very good! I'll be trying both! Thanks a lot!
Let us know how it goes!!
That's really cool information. But I read somewhere recently that the felt beaters will destroy mesh heads...you might want to consider the hard rubber or urethane beaters with a much smaller foot print, mine are over 20 years old and have been using as a double kick on a single PD-10 with the newer (1980's LOL) PD-11 (4" wide) trigger custom mounted into it.
I use the silent stroke beaters on my bass - link on my website.
@@BustingsticksWithKW okay, they looked like felt on video
Thats really creative! I switched my kick tower to an millenium mps mesh instead, since it was really cheap. I have pads and cymbals from all sorts of other brands and alesis kits. Never had any problem
That’s awesome! I’m curious about that MPS unit - looking for some parts to try!
@@BustingsticksWithKW I dont know about the MPS hi hat, but the MPS kicktower actually works better with alesis nitro than the nitro kicktower does. :D Becuase the original isnt very sensitive, also its loud and will eventually break.
Really needed to hear the double bass…😝
Check out my Instamatic cover video - lots and lots there!
Fantastic idea! Thanks!!
Thanks! Literally came to me as I set up the cay and started talking!
Love your content! Love the extra Tom Tom pad for the kick on the Alesis. I have the same kit and live in an NYC apt so would love to use one of the Tom’s for now and I get the mounting part but what wires are you using to make it work. If you have time to answer and thank you for your videos and the time. Have a great day
Pretty sure I just used the bass drum cable. Maybe I needed a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter but I can’t look right now!
I’ll throw a like up to help how ever I can.😝
Thanks - it does help!
Thanks man for the tip, appreciate.
Any time - just a bit of creative tinkering!
Love your videos !!
Thank you so much!
I've been thinking about trying the first setup. Double bass, with adjusted arms and the regular kick pad. The problem I have is the kick pad is far too low in volume. I've tried blasting every option I could in voice and utility... I SLAM the kick, far harder than I ever would on an acoustic kit and it still isn't as loud as simply pressing the button on the module. I'm quickly giving up on that. Side note: I've noticed with the single pads/"toms", switching the voice to a snare, there is a sweet spot where, if the hit registers, it acts like it is a very hard hit (from the middle, move down, nearing the rim)
Moving away from that spot will decrease volume.
You want to check out my video about getting the kit to play musically - I go over all the settings like sensitivity and such. That should take care of most of your issues. Also - tune you mesh heads up a bit - I find it evens out the triggering.
@@BustingsticksWithKW Cool, ty. I'll check out the vid. I didn't know adjusting the heads would do anything for triggering.
Dude I really appreciate you sharing
You’re welcome - this one was fun to figure out!
@@BustingsticksWithKW i used the old kick trigger to make a bell trigger for my ride cymbal. Amazing what you can do with these inexpensive kits
Ha I love that! Clever!
I noticed the Moving Pictures Album in the background! We can be friends now!
And that’s an original! No reissues there!
I have one more question...can two bass drum triggers be used by connecting them to the controller via 2 output to 1 input cable ??? Or a one in and two out box ???
8:30 - Now I'm seeing what looks like a tom trigger pad that you are using as a bass trigger pad? Will that work?
It sure does! There are many options out there for the bass pad, from stock, to a tom pad, to 3rd party triggers, or in my case, a pad from 1985! I don’t think 2 in 1 out would work because of impedance values being split.
i know this video is a bit old, but for the ones who are having trouble with the alesis base drum pad barely receiving input, get a guitar distortion pedal, and connect it between the module and the pedal's input, after tweaking some of the settings on the pedal, the drum pad will receive much more input
Interesting. Basically you are applying electrical gain to the signal. To be clear, I’ve never had an issue with bass drum signal with the original tower or any replacement pad. First look at your settings for the trigger for sensitivity and level. I say have to turn down my bass drum in the mix!
dude.... this is exactly what i was considering doing. i currently have both high hat + kick sound both set to my left footpedal so i can do double bass just fine. it took some adjusting not having the same bounce on the left pedal, but i can actually do some interesting high hat kick combinations with current setup. ideal setup would be more like this though so i can use the high hat more freely without kick, and have that equal bounce for fast double bass work.
That’s an interesting idea with the hi hat! My double pedal fit on the standard bass tower so it was never something I thought of.
I do the same thing...just got my Nitro a couple of weeks ago and by accident discovered this...lol. Bought my first Alesis back in the mid 90s..SR16.
hey Kevin, greetings from Costa Rica. Amazing video. I did same as you, however, it looks like I do need a harder beater head or something like that, because I got to kick really hard to make it happen . I am trying to use regular commercial pedal . I saw a video from somebody that actually uses a skateboard wheel as a beater head..... any ideas??? Cheeers!
That’s just a sensitivity setting or something, because my beaters are the silent type made out of basically a tennis ball!
In the beginning of the video, I noticed the bass drum trigger pad has indentations from the beaters, especially the right side. I want to get this set, but that worries me. Can the pads be replaced and where do you get them? Or do you have to get the whole bass trigger, that is, if you can buy it separately?
Also...is that black tennis balls on the beaters of the bass pedals ??? Or is that standard for the Pearl pedals?
I’m sure you can find parts on eBay - that’s where got my extras! As for the beaters, check out the link on my website under the Good Stuff for more info!
I realize this video is two years old, but maybe you’ll respond. I was wondering if you can just put a 1/4 splitter on your bass drum cable and run two pads. I haven’t tried it, but it seems like it would work.
It works, just tried it. Running two bass drums through the kick port on the nitro mesh !!!
As long as it’s a “stereo” cable on the system you can split!!
@@BustingsticksWithKW I just split it with the regular (TS ) Y splitter. Both bass drums going into the same port on the module. Not actually splitting a rim or pad trigger. I’ve got them both on the same plug-in port.
Do you have a link for that computer stand?
I built it!
Wow.. will hook this up today, just genius. LOL
Ha thanks! I have a knack for finding the obvious, but odd, solution to mechanical problems! Years of experience owning an old house will do that! 😂
I managed to snap the actual kickpad off the tower. This is gonna help save me $85 for a replacement
Ha - well I’m glad I could help!
I did the same thing, was not fun. Now the snare pad crapped out on me.
hi can i plug the extra bass pad to tom on the module?
THANKS!
You sure can! Nothing magic about where you plug them in!
@@BustingsticksWithKW Great i was thinkin about selling beacouse i got a new pad but it has a use now!
Is it possible to connect a second bass drum pad? Like two of the alesis nitro stock bass drum pads?
I’m guessing a mono splitter could pull it off on the bass cable. Or, you can sacrifice a pad input and send the same midi note
@@BustingsticksWithKW rad! if I buy it where would I plug the cable?
whats the link for the beaters?
Check under the Good Stuff section of my website - bustingsticks.con
i tried doing this, but i have the issue where the snare arm keeps falling out of the plastic joint, and keeps moving all over the place. is there any tips anyone can give on how to perhaps make the arm not fall out every 5 minuets?
Not really - make sure it’s seated well? I’m pretty rough on it and I don’t have that issue. Maybe you mixed up a clamp when you assembled it?
@@BustingsticksWithKW what i ended up doing, was i noticed when i tightened the clamp down the plastic would meet in the middle, so i just took a file to it and made sure they didn't touch (maybe took about a 1/16 of an inch or less of material off not much at all) and then as a secondary measure, i brought a small set of ratchet straps and used one to go around the arm. been using this for about 2 days and it hasn't come out once!
what cord did you plug into the extra bass drum pad
It’s not really extra - just replacement, so it’s the standard bass cable.
@@BustingsticksWithKW I did this on my turbo and it didn’t work
I had to do this as the stock kick tower broke. Using a normal pad is WAY better than the kick tower
That’s awesome that it worked well for you!
Has anyone tried this set up for long periods of time ?? How does it hold up ?
I just figured it out literally the night of the video, so unless someone else had the idea before me, not sure how much real world clinical trial data is out there! Given how hard I hit the regular pads with sticks, I'm guessing that if you get the angles right (for example, there were no 90 degree angles to any part of the setup, so the forces generated by the beater were not directed toward a single point of structure or pressure) then it would be no worse than chasing the standard tower across the floor. Just don't overtighten to the point of cracking the connectors, and I think it would hold up pretty well.
@@BustingsticksWithKW awesome man thank you very much Kevin !
I've been playing with it like this for a couple months now seems to be working great holds up no problems at all thank you again Kevin
@@Drummer777zr I’ve been doing it like this for the last few months too and it works great, just have to tighten it up sometimes
@@michaelmaiwka4674 I'm using a bicycle quick release I guess bolt you would call it and it grips that post pretty good I haven't had to tighten it up at all it hasn't gone anywhere
you shouldnt use felt beaters on a mesh head, the felt will cause friction that will deteriorate the pad. Plastic or wood beaters will not damage the pad.
Possibly, but they are replaceable, and usually a bass drum beater does not slide across the head like a stick would, but it's a point to consider - thanks!
Thanks for the uploads! I received one if these from a band member so I don't have a manual at all. So I have the bass tower and a double pedal and my question is are there any settings for the pad to make it more sensitive to feel both beaters?
I’m not sure settings will help - more importantly is if you can get your beaters as close together so they both hit as close to the center as possible. I’m pretty sure my settings are pretty close to stock.
Subbed.
Thank you - please share if it will help a fellow drummer!
I thought so hard about doing this. I ended up buying a new Kick tower instead.
It’s good to have options!!
1:38 I buy all my music gear myself too. Weird, huh? Maybe someone would like to donate to me too. LOL!
You have some pretty good, creative ideas. I’m using a Mapex 400 pedal. It works on my Nitro Max, but it’s not adjustable as far as the separation of beaters. They both hit the pad and trigger the sound, but I wish I couldn’t move the beaters closer together. Perhaps, my concern is baseless, but I worry that the edge of the kick pad may not tolerate repeated hits like the center can. These beaters are separated just enough that the left one strikes closer to the left edge than the center. Maybe it’s not an issue. Time will tell. The Nitro Max kick pad is 5 inches. I feel it’s just a bit small.
So far, so good here - there are lots of 3rd party options out there to try for sure.
Or just buy a surge 😳
True, but the Surge starts at $599 - the Nitro is routinely $349.
Very disappointed with Alesis. This should just work.
To be clear, the standard bass tower works just fine, but if you want to explore other options, I just started clamping things together - or dug out one from 1981.