Alesis Nitro Mesh Double Bass, Does it work?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2021
- Look at the comments! I don't think the Yamaha KP-65 works with the nitro any longer!
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Wanted to make this video for anyone interested in looking at an Alesis nitro or who have one and are thinking about investing in a double bass pedal!
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Exactly the video I needed thank you so much, I also loved how well you explained the whole process and what to actually get
We crossed 1k views!!!!!! Thanks to everyone who watched hopefully everyone finds this helpful, please leave a like if you did! 🙏 😍❤
What's the name of another Kick tower? I want to set a double bass pedal Thanks
I'm not sure what you're asking. The tower I use is the yamaha KP65. It's the only aftermarket tower I've used so it's the only one I have any knowledge about or could recommend.
@@WhiskeyDrums thanks!!! Yamaha kp65 👍
Great advice. I want to upgrade my nephews nitro mesh kit. I'll need a double bass pedal AND kick tower. Appreciate your research, time, effort and knowledge, brother
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Sensitivity is set to 16, THR(esh hold) is 0, cross talk 12, CUR(ve) is 6, S-S 9. I use the KP65 and can't speak foe the KP90, but one thing I've notice is that you have to be clean with your feet! If your feet are sloppy, and sometimes mine is, my notes won't register right! Hope this helps and thanks for watching!!!!
Thanks for this! Just what I was looking for
No problem man! Thanks for watching!
Update: I just recieved the Yamaha kick pad and it works perfectly with my mapex armory double pedal! Ty for doing the video!
No problem man! I still haven't had any issues with mine, she's working great!
What pedal do you have?
@@Lorenzo-xf3jq I use a DW 7000
Great tip! I‘m using the KP65, too, and it‘s working great with my MAPEX double bass pedal. 👍
Seems like a lot of people like the Mapex armory. I might have to find one and try it out, seems like the majority of people that have watched this have mentioned it. Thanks for watching Vader, you rock dude!!
@@WhiskeyDrums I really like MAPEX hardware, my drum throne is also MAPEX. Quality at a pretty reasonable price in my opinion. Of course that always depends on personal taste.
Which pedal do you have?
@@Lorenzo-xf3jq Actually, a pretty simple one, but it works great for me: The MAPEX P600 TW.
Great content man. Definitely helpful.
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Just bought the kp65 bass tower so hopefully It'll work thank you for the heads up
Let me know what you think! I think it works great. And someone said they did the same ad me and turned the old bass drum trigger into a bell for their ride!
@@WhiskeyDrums hell yea man ill tell you when it's here. I was thinking about what I could do with my other kick tower so I guess I'll try that
@@jameshopkins972 yeah I've actually got 2 bass triggers setup as cymbals. One is my bell for the ride and the other is a crash cymbal. It's always fun to re-purpose parts lol! Thanks so much for watching and commenting
@@WhiskeyDrums ha that's awesome man. No worries thank you for the informative video mate
@@WhiskeyDrums hey bro finally got the package.... fucking covid. its awesome its way better for doubke bass
Just bought a mapex armory double bass pedal for my nitro kit and was very pissed to find out it is unresponsive to the double pedal. I had iron cobra pedal on my old nitro kit and it work great. Thanks for the tip with the Yamaha tower. I will have to get one now
Yeah its not responsive at all to a double pedal. I wish, in hindsight I would have recorded a video before I started cutting up the old one and took it apart so I could so a side by side comparison. I've had the KP65 for about a month now and no issues out of it.
Hi Vicky. I just did the exact same thing! Can you give feedback on if this worked?
Not Viki Herr but I can say many people have bought the KP65 and are very happy. I'm still going strong with mine!
@@WhiskeyDrums awesome. Mine is being delivered tomorrow. Keen to get my double bass ready for some rolling thunder. Great video. Thank you!
Thanks for the tip, unfortunately I saw this video a little too late, I saw it after I invested in a Alesis Nitro and an Iron cobra double pedal just to find out that the kick tower is really unresponsive, I will buy the kick tower you recommended to see if it works out, thanks a lot!
Hopefully it does man! It's been working well for me so far. Can't complain about the performance of it at all.
I have the Iron Cobras as well. If you didn't go through with the upgrade, try setting the Utility menu for the kick SEN 16, THR 0, CUR 6. Most of my kits have the kick volume maxed. I have my Iron Cobra beaters as close to center as possible.
It will work. Here’s what I did. I bought 2 new beaters and put kinks in the shafts so the beaters were just missing each other. Been using this for 3 years no mis triggers. Cost me $60 Australian for 2 new beaters.
thanks for the info !
No Problem!
I have an Axis longboard. I angle the adjustable beaters to point in towards the center of the surface. It works.
Your saying axis longboard with the stock nitro tower works just fine? And play pretty fast doubles and it picks em all up?????? You must have got a really really really good nitro bass tower or beaters can get extremely close together
The stock axis beaters are adjustable so I turn my beaters slightly inward and adjust the pad angle to square up to the bass tower surface.
Thanx for the advice!!!!
Anytime!
Insert a clean boost or overdrive guitar pedal between the kick pad and the module to increase the signal level. Trust me.
thank you!
Thanks for the suggestion. I have ordered the kp65. Also thomann has a mesh 8” kick pad for $70 as well. Also did you paint your cymbals orange?
Hopefully it works well for you, drop back by and let me know! Yes I painted my part of my cymbals orange, it's a fluorescent orange, the same as my sticks and when I use a black light they pop! I had the black light set up for my Halloween videos
That is so true I tried it on my Yamaha DD-75 it's not all good
The best way to make it sound good, is for me to get another Yamaha KP-65 and a splitter
thanks for the info,, im learning now that my double bass pedal isnt working with the stock nitro tower,, ill look into the yamaha kp65,, will i need any special wires or anything?? or will the wire i use now for the stock tower work?? appreciate your feedback
Hello, do you know if it is possible to connect the Alessis single drum pad with this Yamaha Kp65 so I have TWO separate bass drum pads with separate kick pedals? Or in the case if not possible Alessis and yamaha combination, will Two yamaha single pads work connected together?
Thanks for 12k plus views everyone!! Love the support, so great full! Please subscribe to help the channel!!!! Keep rockin mother truckers! Also I have know deal for the KP65, it just what I found that's cheap and works for me!!
I literally just went out and bought a pearl eliminator double kick and found out that the alesis kick tower is garbage! haha! thanks for making this video man!! i'm going to order myself a new kick tower right now!
Yup it sure is, I found this out the same way you did. Ordered a new DW pedal and it was useless on the alesis tower!
That's what I'm planning on going to do to my Yamaha DD-75 but I need to get a quarter inch splitter so I can play double bass on my Yamaha DD-75. I'm using a Yamaha KP-65 tower kick pad on my Yamaha DD-75
Did you ever get your y splitter? How did it work out?
I have a 2nd Nitro Mesh kick pad tower & pedal on the way (off eBay). I hear that it & a mono Y splitter will work for "true" double bass. If not, there's other options, I believe, such as hooking the 2nd kick tower into Tom 4 and setting it as a kick.
Yeah that seems like a viable option 🤔, one that I considered when I bought my double pedal and figured out it wouldn't work. I chose to go with a tower that can handle a double pedal that way I can use the tom and crash expansion ports for other inputs. Good luck and with the second tower, let us know how it works out!
@@WhiskeyDrums - Others that have bought a 2nd kick tower off this guy on eBay praised it, and said it works. The seller is named drumsrus. (Alesis Electronic Kick/Bass Drum Pad DM6 Nitro with Pedal). Several good reviews.
Just know that if you go with hooking it up via Y splitter, make sure its 'mono" & not stereo.
The double pedal didn't work for me either. Trigger pad on kick is too small.
@@FreeRPGer Yeah I was never a true double bass guy, I played kits with 2 bass drums when I was younger and just never liked the feel it. I always preferred to have a double pedal. But to each their own style! Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment man!
Is that cost effective over buying a bigger bass tower and saving the module input?
Oh, I never updated this. Yes, a 2nd Alesis kick tower pad *DOES* work with a mono Y splitter. It works MUCH better than a double pedal on the small kick pad (plus I prefer 2 kicks). And it was only 70-ish bucks for a 2nd bass drum pad, and 10 bucks for the Y splitter. 80 bucks total can get true double bass. & since it's through a mono Y splitter, it's sharing 1 input for the kick pads -- if you change the sound of one, the other changes with it exactly.
I got cobra 301 pedals as an Xmas present for myself and when I went to hook it up to my nitro I can barely get even one pedal sounding good. Now I gotta get my self another early Xmas present lol
Yeah that's kind of what happened to me, exactly why i made this video! Good luck man
@@WhiskeyDrums I’m ordering the kick tower :)
Great! I just ordered Yamaha kp65 after watching this video Thanks for the info! also with the new Alesis nitro mesh (I got today with on sale price 324.99$), it seems that for about 200bpmx4 the original kick-tower might work(I didn't test midi yet to see if ther is note-dropping), but this kick-tower is small so after connected with Yamaha DFP double-pedal it is not quite stable. just my testing as reference.
also I change the threshold-value from 6 to 0(at beginning it is 6, and I can see some kicking didn't trigger, so I set it as 0)
The KP65 isn't much bigger, the 65 refers to kick pad being 6.5 inches across. But the tower as a whole is much beefier and well built than the alesis. You're going to like it! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment
@@WhiskeyDrums Yes I received the KP65 now, it is much better than the original Nitro' kick-pad(it is all rubber and no frame so the actual-area is bigger, and also it is heavier and more stable) Thanks for the recommendation!
@@minoustudio Yes sir the pad is all rubber and doesn't have the big metal frame encasing the pad and trigger. The stand on the back is definitely more well constructed and is very nice! Glad this video helped my friend, it is exactly why I made it!!
Would it be possible to instead use an extra Tom accessory and fix it on the ground somehow, so 2 strikers would fit easily?
Possibly? But it's not a fitment issue that is the problem, it's the responsiveness and ability to register accurate hits. The stock trigger is not good enough. After I order the aftermarket tower I took my trigger out of the stock kicktower and played fast single strokes on it with my hands and they would not register properly.
Hello, I have the Yamaha kp65 as kick pad for my Alesis Turbo mesh. It works great with sensitivity volume set at the minimum level, except when used as a usb midi input in DAW. When piloting midi drums, it generates random kicks even when not playing. Have you got the same issue ?
No man I haven't ever experienced that before. I use Steven slade drums free edition and my DAW is either cakewalk or Komplete Kontrol. I also don't know that I have my volume adjusted on the tower all the way up. I will check when I get home later!
@@WhiskeyDrums I have the volume on the tower all way down, at min
OCTOBER 2022 UPDATE! The KP65 may not be compatible anymore. I've had 2 comments in the last couple months saying the module wouldn't recognize the kickpad. Mine still works great but something could have changed on the manufacturers side or they got a faulty Kickpad!
Bought a KP65 for my Nitro Mesh, but it is not picking up any input. I plugged it in using the snake cable that comes with the kit labeled 'kick' in the output port. Is it just a faulty KP65?
Sounds like it could be! Sorry for the delayed response, idk why my notifications stopped. Yeah I have the kick cable from the module plugged into mine and never had an issue
Did you ever get yours working? I just had a 2nd person say theirs wasn't working either.
@@WhiskeyDrums I gave up trying to get mine to work. There was nothing online on potential fixes :/
@@averybyars3464 Ahh damn that sucks! Stupid question, you did plug it into the pad out on the KP65? I assume you probably tried both the ports? How new is your nitro kit?
@@WhiskeyDrums Yeah, I tried both ports.
I bought the Yamaha tower. Works great on my nitro!
Good to hear! I don't think I've had one person say it sucked or didn't work. Definitely an upgrade over the alesis tower
@@WhiskeyDrums yessir and I made a bell trigger out of the one that came out of the old tower 😎
That's how I started my slow customization and now I have a monster nitro kit! Not sure how you made your bell but I I used some get foam to isolate it for no double triggering and then used a 4 inch grinding plate to glue the trigger on, and put a thin piece of rubber over the trigger. It has decent rebound. The other option is to go to Walmart in the crafts isle and get a piece of circular wood like 5 or 7 inches which I think would have better rebound
@@WhiskeyDrums awesome! I finally have all of my inputs taken up with cymbals and the way I made my bell by gluing the trigger to the bottom side of an old flat practice pad and mounted it just to the side and above my ride since the Yamaha ride is a 3 zone and no inputs on these kits will support that but it’s cool having a separate bell actually 🤘🏽. I like the way you have upgraded your snare a lot.
how did u configurate kp? mine isnt recognized
Hey man, really helpful video. Looking to find a kp 65 - but before I do, is this still working for you? Contemplating just picking up another alesis tower, but would rather not mess with a splitter and Two different brand of single pedals.
Thanks!
Yes sire my KP65 is still going strong! And my trigger from my alesis pedal gave out finally being used as a crash cymbal
Awesome, great to hear! Kp65 it is.
Too funny, I've been eying the expansion kit (coming from a 6 cymbal setup is tough) but a working kick tower is a bit more appealing. Maybe for Father's day🤷🏻♂️
Glad I found your channel, you've got another sub!
Thanks man much appreciated! Yeah I had kind of built my own expansion kit, I'm gonna have to buy some actual equipment now that my trigger went bad. Thanks for watching and subbing!
Your video is making me want to pull the trigger on a Yamaha pad rather than getting rid of my Iron Cobra double pedal. I read stuff online that made it sound like this kick pad wouldnt be a great solution as it doesnt pick up on fast hits very well. But your video seems pretty good. Have you found any drawbacks in functionality with that pad?
I don't have insane speed with my feet, but I'm still pretty quick and haven't had any issues with this pad whatsoever. I thought for a while it was really noisy but figured out I had my spikes out to far and it was causing the pad to lift slightly and slam back down. I took some turns out of it to get it closer to my rug and now it's pretty quiet. More quiet than my alesis tower ever was. Thanks watching and the comment man!!
@@WhiskeyDrums thanks man
@@DadRockProject No problem man, this is why I made the video. Any questions you might have just leave me a comment, I reply to every single last one of them!
I bought a kp90, and it still doesn't pickup all the nots. adjusting sensitivity and threshold..still same problem. can u share setting on ur kick pad plz?
Sensitivity is set to 16, THR(esh hold) is 0, cross talk 12, CUR(ve) is 6, S-S 9. I use the KP65 and can't speak foe the KP90, but one thing I've notice is that you have to be clean with your feet! If your feet are sloppy, and sometimes mine is, my notes won't register right! Hope this helps and thanks for watching!!!!
@@WhiskeyDrums thanks for the video! I actually replaced the yamahakp90 with an alesis kick tower Fort he dm10 and it works absolutely perfect. So stoked. Cheers!
@Hourglass Media Okay good shit man! Just got home and ate and remembered your comment so I figured I'd get back to you I've also heard the DM10 was a good pad. 👍If anything changes update the comments so other people will know how it turns out! Thanks for watching and hopefully it was of some value to you
So you’re sayin that the Yamaha KP65 works perfect for fast double bass on Alesis Nitro? No Modifications or fine tuning needed? Just wondering cause Im looking to buy this set but I can’t find a double bass replacement anywhere
Yeah i did nothing fancy in the settings or anything to make it work. Just plugged it in and started playing
Kp 65s can be had fairly cheaply too.
Would it work if you had 2 complete Alesis kick pedal assemblies, and plug them into a 1/4 inch splitter and basically run them both into the kick input into the controller?
I believe someone in the comment section said they actually did this and it does work fairly well. I prefer a double pedal over 2 separate pedals. Even if the Y adapter didn't work you should be able to plug into the extra Tom or Cymbal jack on the module
@@WhiskeyDrums The real question is; Can you get replacement parts like this or would you have to buy 2 sets?
I'm pretty sure you can get replacement parts, but they can be hard to find. It seems Alesis doesn't take exception to things beaking and sometimes spare parts are hard to come by. Yet another reason why I chose to upgrade my tower
Mh I do not own an electronic drum kit but I'm looking into buying one, I am wondering now, could I eventually add a second bass pad with its own pedal?
Yes you can do that! On this module you have 2 1/4 inch TRS jacks, made to add an extra crash and tom but could be used as an extra kick input
Hmmmm...
I have 2 single bass pedals. If I bought a second bass tower and a 1/4” “Y” adaptor, would it work? I wanted to just buy a DB pedal and be done with it but I’m glad I found your video. Thanks!
Don't hold me to this one, but yes I believe that would work. It's not the drum module where you control voices and change kit numbers and what not, it's the actual trigger inside the kick tower that is the issue.
@@WhiskeyDrums That was exactly my thought. Might have an issue if both hit at the same time but...who does that? Lol.
I found a video of someone using a Mapex DB pedal with the stock Alesis Drum Tower, and it was working pretty well. For how I use a DB, more about fills and little things like that. I’ll go find the video, do you mind telling me what you think? Appreciate you, homie.
@@WhiskeyDrums Here’s that video:
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I’m wondering if his pedal allows the beaters to be closer together? I’d love to know that measurement lol.
@@F3PIZZA yeah but he's still playing pretty slow sixteenth notes, if you try to play 32nds at the speed it wouldn't register. At least not with my pedals....I actually just measured mine and from the insides of my beaters there a 1 1/4 inch gap to the felts, and maybe 1/2 inch between the plastic outside of the beaters, hard to be much closer than that!
@@WhiskeyDrums hey thanks for the measurement! Well for me I will need a double pedal AND a better tower, so I’m thinking I’ll buy a second tower first and try the Y connector. I actual haven’t checked prices on towers, maybe they aren’t as cheap as I thought.
think it will work with the turbo kit?
Damn, I was hoping there was something I was able to do to get it to work, but I guess I've just gotta buy a new drum tower. Little disappointing, but I guess I gotta do what I gotta do
honestly aside from the bass tower thats really my only complaint.
Yeah its really not a bad kit for the price. It works great for what I use it for! Thanks watching and dropping a comment man!
I just got the yamaha kick tower in the mail today, plugged it it and it does nothing. Am i missing something?
Unfortunately, I doubt it. It seems Yamaha or Alesis have changed something, and them not working together has been a point of discussion in the comments here recently.
@@WhiskeyDrums is there anyway i could make it work?
Not that I've seen yet
Hi, FYI I bought a used Nitro kit and a used Dixon 9290D double pedal. Double kick works great just by adjusting the kick sample of course but also the height of the hammers and direction of the heads (so that the inside edge of each head hit the pad as close to the middle as possible). No need to tweak, bend, buy or swap anything. Your video almost cost me 200$+ for a used bigger kick pad, please be mindful before using the word ''impossible'' in public. Thank you and happy testing.
No I still standby impossible. If you're playing with any real speed it doesn't register the hits. After I got my yamaha kick pad I took the alesis tower apart to where I had just to trigger in front of me. It's couldn't even keep up with my hand speed. I'd like to see a video of what speed your playing at. If the trigger can keep up there is a chance they use a different trigger now. I bought my nitro like 3-4 years ago so this could be the case as well.
@@WhiskeyDrums Yep its true. Nearly 2 hours of tweaking the sound, volume, beaters hight/angle/, and this is nowhere to be "good enough". The trigger in the oryginal Alesis Nitro Mesh kick tower is only catching signal in the small middle point, so there's no way to set it up properly for double pedal. Im also looking forward to buy KP65.
Yeah I feel pretty confident in saying that if I still had the original kick tower I wouldn't have been able to play some of my reason covets. He'll my stock kick tower I pulled the trigger out and used it as in a custom crash and the trigger died on me!
Well now i know not to get the alesis nitro mesh thanks for the tip whiskey appreciate the review bud
I knew you'd appreciate the information disseminated in this video!
Overall would you say this is a good starter kit? I am possibly getting a damn near brand new one on offer up for 300 and im a beginner
Yeah its a good little kit man. The internal sounds from the drum module aren't great but you can hook it up to a computer and use MIDI triggering into a DAW with a VST plug in like SSD.5 Free or MT drums. I've had mine since the end of 2018 and nothing had broken or failed yet!
@@WhiskeyDrums sweet! Thanks a ton man makes my decision easier I was worried about the double bass because I heard on another video about the bass pad being too small and this video helped also thanks for the tip ok using a daw I'm definitely doing that!🤙
Thank you for checking out the video! A double pedal will fit, but it's tight. Like I said in the video the kick tower that it comes with, the actual trigger pad is only 4.5 inches. The biggest thing is that the trigger itself isn't sensitive and responsive enough to quick successive hits. So you would do 2 quick hits, and only one would be picked up. Whereas if you get the Aquariun kickzone trigger or the KP65 by yamaha they will work great and pick up every note!
I just started playing 2 months ago. I got the Nitro Mesh kit because it had some decent reviews on Amazon. For just starting out, I've got no big issues.
@@jakelairdify I've had mine over 2 years now and stream and record covers with it, have had 0 issues except when I bought my DW double pedal
70$ is a piece of cake. This kit is good enough for spending some money on upgrades.
Playing classical metal songs with a double bass on the stock tower works for me tho. Messhuggah stuff - nopes!
Yeah it definitely works great for what I do, recording covers and live streaming. It's definitely a good little kit for the price, I've had no issues out of it besides wanting to play double bass. Slower double bass can definitely be done but when you try and play messhugah, LoG, or anything with speed or technically intricate double bass it falls on its face. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment man, I appreciate so much!!!
@@WhiskeyDrums Exactly. Some say it works great with a double bass pedal and some say it does not work at all. I think its mainly about playstyle. Anyway im gonna get a kickdrum like you recommended. :) I gave you a sub!
Appreciate you much, thanks a bunch
@@WhiskeyDrums I took your advice, its like night and day. Do you have any video of the bell you made from the kick tower?:) I wanna use the old one as an trigger too
hey bro do uou play drum covers snd how fo u do it legalie?
To record my covers I have my drumset hooked to my computer and use the MIDI outputs to run SSD drums
@@WhiskeyDrums i get that part i mean how do you pik any cover song to play on your channel without copy right issues
@@gcp3339 sorry just now seen this my man. There is basically no way around it, I get copy right strikes on every stream and video. I'm just here to have fun, not make any money
Will the surge kit be a better option
Honestly couldn't tell you man. I know the snare is slightly bigger at 10 inches but tom pads are still 8 inches. And it depends how you're going to use it. The internal sounds from the module suck on the nitro but I only use the module for a MIDI output into my VST program
Thanks for this video mang! Ive been looking at this kit really hard. I want to get back into playing but looking for an e kit that can handle double bass. Any suggestions?
I really wouldn't feel comfortable recommending and entire kit to someone lol. It's the only e-kit I've ever owned and bought for the same reason you are looking to buy one. I wanted to get back into playing, at least have something to beat on when I had the urge. I've had this kit for 3 years and haven't had any issues except when I bought a double pedal
Ran into this issue too. I just got a kick tower from an alesis Surge kit which is an 8" mesh pad, but it's still dropping notes.
Can I ask what settings you have on the module for your kick? I've tried messing with the threshold and cross-talk settings with no luck and yours sounds perfect!
Yeah by tomorrow evening I'll look at it and tell you, but again remember I'm using a Yamaha kick pad. Best of luck with it and thanks for watching!
I'm way behind on comments but I have a pinned comment on my pad settings for the kick tower!
Which double bass pedal works with the kp65?
I've got a DW 7000 and most people tend to agree the Mapex armory works well with the KP65
I bought a Nitro a year ago and play really fast death metal and yeah no way did the stock Nitro work for that. I bought another Nitro kick tower and a cable splitter and that worked ok but still was never 100% accurate. Also when playing really fast the module would start missing hits from other drums as well, I assume because it just didn't have enough processing power to handle a lot of inputs in quick succession from multiple pads or if you play several of them at once quickly. I just bought an Alesis Crimson II SE and it works perfectly with no issues for double bass and fast playing.
Yeah I was considering going to the crimson II but I've seen so many terrible videos about the quality of the cymbals and how quickly they go bad and break that I couldn't pull the trigger on it. My left wrist is to messed up from an injury when I was younger, so as much as I enjoy metal, it's hard for me to play anything crazy fast with my hands. Thanks for leaving a comment and sharing your experience with it man, I appreciate it very much!
Did you ever plug the two bass towers into their own inputs, rather than using the splitter? I’m researching one of these kits now and would like a good double bass experience.
I seen online To use the stock bass drum tower with double kick pedal you got to adjust the threshold !!! Has anyone else heard about this ???
Thanks ... GOD BLESS !!!
I wouldn't bet on it man. I've had this kit for like 3 years, I'm very aware of all the little settings in it. If you planning on buying a double pedal, I'd budget for a new kicktower as well.
By bending a kink in each beater so they just pass each other and adjusting sensitivity it will work just fine. Been using mine for 3 years no mis triggers.
If I had a cheaper set of pedals, or maybe bought a second set of beaters I would have tried this. 1 I've gutted my nitro tower and 2 I'm not bending anything on my DW pedals lol
use your high hat program it for double bass the floor pedal it works but on alesis command mesh it works i play it ill make a video
I just have to reference you to this exact conversation I just had in the comments a couple days ago. I say in the video it can be mapped, but for an acoustic player, there's enough nuisances that it just isn't the same as having a real double pedal! And this video was to be more about the nitro bass drum trigger not being responsive enough for a double pedal
I’ve seen other videos of people doing double bass song covers with the alesis nitro (stock tower). I saw a slipknot and avenged sevenfold cover and these people said it works but they had to adjust the sensitivity 🤔 🤷🏻♂️
It didn't matter what I did to my settings, it couldn't keep up with the speed I was trying to play. 16th notes at 60 bpm yeah that works fine. But if you're trying to place surfacing or disasterpieces you'd be SOL!!! Thanks for watching and the comment
What pedals are you using
DW 7000 series!
Could you please show the setup????
What exactly are you wanting to see about it? Let me know and I'll put something together
What setting is that at?
Which settings? For the trigger pad such as sensitivity and curve?
@@WhiskeyDrums no I mean for the drums how they sound because on mine they are the normal sound
@Karson Gushue Gotcha! So I utilize the MIDI output from the drum module and have that connected to my PC. On my PC I have 2 programs, one called cakewalk that is a free recording software. I use a VST plug in called SSD which is Steven slade drums and that runs inside of cakewalk.
damnit i was thinking to get this to practise death/trash/metalcore... what else is affordable i can get to play double bass properly
It's hard to say honestly bud. This is the only electronic kit I have experience with, I can only imagine most low end kits like this will suffer from the same problem. I mentioned it briefly but the aquarian kickzone trigger is only like $30 if you can find them in stock and it worked really well for me. It's just a trigger and i put it on my alesis kick tower.
I replaced the kick tower for a 10" mesh pad from Thomann. Not that expensive and works perfectly.
@@rayzerd77 Glad you found another alternative man, gotta have one for this kit! Thanks watching and leaving a comment I seriously appreciate it!!!
Can you buy a component ?
Hey sorry I missed this, what do you mean exactly by component?
Hahaha great video I bought a alesis nitro mesh kit and I have to say I'm very disappointed.the hi hat sounds suck and by default they are louder than any other part of the kit.Also there's no half way open hi hat control it's either open or closed
Halfway open is like pressing the pedal a 1/4 inch from being all the way closed, it is difficult to find at first. I agree the sounds suck, but that's why I use a VST plugin!
Just program your hi hat to the second kick
Nah I wouldn't do that, it's a bad idea trying to play Amy serious double bass. There's not enough spring tension to be like a double pedal. The other problem is that if a song requires double bass and eighth notes on the hi hat what do you do? Program another cymbal to the hi hat, and the hi hat to a crash? It's just not worth it man! Which I do say in the video that you can program the hi hat pedal as a bass sound, just not worth it in my opinion 😉
i have that on my kit and less than satisfactory. Especially when my control module will trigger stuff with my hi hat. So like, eventhough that pedal is set to a kick voice, it will stick open or close my hi-hat and makes an open hi hat beat with double bass impossible. I have an Alesis Forge.
yes u can but it is weird, turn the high hat pedal into a bass drum sound number 005 in voice, but yea it is a weak pedal but if u know the limits, of the high hat pedal, and are a seasoned drummer, that knows, electronic drums are a totally different feeling then acoustic drums, so playing double base on a Eds vs a Acoustic, it takes more practice to sound better, with a electronic kit its kinda cheating IMO
sorry you are right about the tower, but the pedal method does work, and if you need or really want a double base and KNOW how t play, its ok, if u know the limits of ur pedal
Nope, wrong my man. If you do that then you're left with a bass drum hit if you wanna open the high hat and still use it as a controller. I did this for a while but it is so shitty sounding like this.
@@Hellview_LN yeah the problem with mine is that if you're trying to play double bass with the hi hat pedal, you don't have much flexibility when it comes to hi hat sounds. What happens when you need to play straight 16ths but you want to have a closed hi hat hat sound? Yeah you could reconfigure a bunch a sounds but it would be so far from the feeling of an acoustic kit. And I really meant for this video to be about the kick tower with a double pedal on it. And my trigger out of bass drum I was using as a cymbal just went bad. Fuck their stock tower lol
@@WhiskeyDrums yea i tried it yesterday. And the bassdrum works. But if u hold the hh pedal down. I kept the closed hi hat sound . So i agree with you. And it's not ideal. But if ur broke af and need or really want a double pedal sound just to try. It works but as u said ideally its not good for that hh edk nitro pedal itslef unless ur careful in the longrun
@@WhiskeyDrums also i have played electronic drums only at guitar center . The last time was probably 2007 lol. But all i do is acoustic. I just got the guitar center colored i guess "saw it on musicians friend for 299 :(" i paid 327.99. Its better then the 379 but still heh could of saved 100 bucks with shipping instead of 60 bucks but the red and black is cool. Just wish i had a bigger snare. I'm 6 ft 3 so i had to do work on this to make it feel good at least as best on me as i could. I'm happy just to practice and record demos with it. Thx for the replies. I only recently started posting stuff streaming and stuff like 8 months ago. I have known how to build pcs. Cheap set ups. Really mickey moused recording setups for years.
I'm sure u know how it is to do with what u got... if u ever want. Id like to have a small discussion with anyone about not reading music opposed to learning theory and to read it. Cause I've been a ear drummer since i was 10 and can play pretty much anything i hear loosely
I'm the 100th comment, that is all
Woot woot 100th comment, even though a ton are my replies! Thanks for watching man!
@@WhiskeyDrums I turned my old kick drum into a bell as well and plugged it into tom 4. I wouldn't have bothered trying that without this video
@@TrentonOn0ne he'll yeah man it's perfect for that! Glad you got something useful out of the video!!!
@Trentononone I wanted to update you since you tried my suggestion for making your own ride bell pad, all the Tom inputs have dual zone capabilities just like the snare, they just don't come with a second zone. So you can buy 3 more cymbals and split it with the stock inputs for the Tom's. You then go in and assign the rim a different MIDI note. I think in all you can run like 15 or 16 triggers on this kit!!!!
Yes it will you are totally wrong. Set your high hat peddle to a kick drum also. Lol. Your wrong bro
Great comment. The best. So well articulated and concise.