I hear you. Blizzard's reputation is in the gutter. I picked up Diablo 2 on day one and had zero doubts about how awesome it would be, but those days are long gone.
I have always hated the bind on account garbage ever since I first experienced it in world of Warcraft. I understand that they are trying to do this too obstruct D2JSP as well as other sites from changing the game aspects but there has to be a better way. Those sites and other people will always find a way
@@matt80_s definitely agree with that for the current games most likely. I'll be honest though, I think people would enjoy the game much more if they didn't use sources like JSP. Things are always better when you have to work for them. I actually loved the Gold auction house on Diablo 3. I thought that was a great way for them to make use of gold aside from repairs lol
@@shattered-reflection8045 I think D2R would benefit heavily from an official trade website that doesn't utilize real money but Blizzard just can't resist the temptation to monetize their games further. If they made a trade website, it would have a real money option 100%.
This actually sounds pretty cool. I like the balance changes, and that it won't just be like D3 (being someone who started at D2, has enjoyed D3 a lot in the past, but lately has been all about D2R). Very intrigued and hyped about the game after this video! Thank you for posting the review! @Dbrunski125
@@gabenewelltheprotector3548 The significance of this is being free to play your game you bought with your own money OFFLINE without blowshard err blizzard being able to practice tyranny against its players. You people who are condoning online play only are brainwashed and there's no hope for you as far as standing up to blowshard err blizzard to stop this nonsense. If I lose internet I should be able to fully play this game. Tornado bad storms or anything can happen to knock a persons internet out for weeks on end. At that point BLOWZhard err Blizzard is not providing a service to the gamer at all. Making someone pay for something and not providing a service is against the law. Make it happen BLOWSHARD err blizzard. Offline play or lose popularity even more.
@@DeathbringerDrago You are correct. But on the other hand, you agreed to play for a product. YOu accepted the terms. I also preffer to have an offline mode and dont understand why they dont put it. I guess is from greed....... In general, computer games are stupid and not very well craeted with purpose. They are trying to put the new generation in the VR and all that crap. The old games with keyboard and mouse are in its last years, trust me on that. And its made artificially, its not a natural thing.
if the chase items are impactful, like deaths fathom or griffons eye, i'm fine with the loot system. if the chase items are micro upgrades or better rolls on the same item, it's gonna get old quick.
It depends on the way PvP is set up. In D2, the ultra rare items like griffon or DF are rarely used in PvP, but the rare items that do get used tend to be a lot more expensive. In that scenario, I completely agree with you. If, on the other hand, the chase items are best in slot for PvP as well as PvM, then it's going to be a problem. The game will probably focus a lot on PvP, as this is what people will stream and have competitions for and will give blizzard free marketing, so if they just have legendary/unique items as best in slot, it will end again with every player having the same build, which is something they wanted to avoid with that whole legendary essence concept. I personally don't care that much if the rarest item is just a small upgrade from the less rare alternative because that means that they aren't necessary to play the char to it's full capabilities. I'd be pissed if a 1:million drop is essential to my build or boosts my damage so much that it's either boring to play with or not fun at all to play without.
I personally hope that PvP will give you access to unique gear, maybe a point system for wins or kills or however it works. I just dont engage in PvP when the only reward is bragging rights in a loot driven game.
@user-js8bp5dg8t I would really dislike that. It should be cosmetic at the most. Forcing people to play PvP to get items never ends well for the longevity of the game or the trade-economy. I really dislike PvP in diablo games, I just want to level and farm on my own or with some friends. If they had specific gear locked behind PvP, it would take away a lot of my enjoyment of the game.
@@DarkWanderer666 Sure. I mean D3 was also fine financially, right? Even though it rock bottomed almost every user review site. D4 better follow the D2 recipe is all I am saying.
Don't know what it is exactly, but based on all the footage despite it looking dark and gritty it still does not feel grounded. Feels like an mmo with your character flying above the content, in a sense. D1 and D2 feels very grounded, and the pace of this is very much like D3 and the character interacting with the environment feels very arcade-y.
@@maximhebert-gareau4461 Bro i hate dmg numbers so much, copletely destroys immersion and just tell me i play jet another number game with some graphical overlay
To me it still just looks like Diablo 3 with a dark, bloody coat of paint on it and some new systems. Which, sadly, means that I am going to have to give it a hard pass.
If the D2 itemization and free trading was coming, I’d actually be super hyped for this game. That was really what made D2 so amazing. I’ll probably not buy D4 for that reason. It’s just not for me.
Free trading just makes the game pay to win because of sites like jsp. I’ve been playing a lot classic wow pvp and I don’t have to worry about dueling a person who spent 10k$ on forum gold and just wrecked my shit.
@@emmanuelguerrero3071 yes, your right. Solving the bot issue is so simple. Have real GM's. There's a reason boting gets worse when a company doesn't moderate their games. Blizz is the worst example of this
I don’t get it. Why is dropping an item on the floor for others to pick up and use is such a foreign concept for these guys. Forget about trading. How about coop team play, sharing loot, playing the game with your buddies? Would it make sense to share all the stuff you find without ambiguous restrictions? Like Helloooo… Blizzard. Are you making a community experience game or what?
I don't get it, why is any item that drops immediately gets a price value because of 3rd party websites, forums and sale sites. Why do players spend thousands of dollars to win in pvp for a fully decked out character. I don't get why d2 is flooded with spam chats selling items. Hell even the Chaos Sanctuary discord even PROMOTES Chinese bot items shops. See where I'm going with this?
@@scdogg444 because D2 has a thriving economy. All the things you listed exist in the real world too. If you design a game well with good itemization, items will have real world value.
Guys, some people buy, others don’t. Can’t generalize everything based on one aspect. I also said that if you decouple trading - there is no coop/community fun of playing together. You just keep what you find and can’t give your buddy that bow you just found, for example. I would rather have a choice of trading and sharing openly vs doing the holy grail first and then start to enjoy the game building classes.
After Cyberpunk I will never buy a new game. I might pick a game up a year after release and only at a heavy discount. The industry has fallen too far and needs to have the rot removed.
I have said it before and I will say it again, d2r is exactly what d3 and/or d4 should have been. D2 lod is still the best game ever always has been always will be. I don't like the taking the skills off items and putting them on others, maybe I am just old and set in my ways or maybe I love d2lod to much lol
I hate to be this cynical, but this “review” basically told us that Diablo 4 is an ARPG. How is trading NOT figured out yet? Isn’t it theorized to be launching in less than 6 months? Are you kidding me? Shouldn’t they be in the polishing phase? Not still figuring out game systems. If they were confident in Diablo 4 then they’d put the game out there so we can see it, stop restricting all the info and let the people play the beta instead of just basically content creators. My guess is that Diablo 4 is average at best and they know it. Otherwise, why not talk about it at THIS point so close to launch. They want to hide that as long as possible to make as many people as they can buy it full priced at launch. That’s what you think when you present the game like they have.
The more I see from the beta, the more my excitement dies. It seems the only thing they're really getting right is atmosphere and combat, which is great, but the systems and itemization have been looking surface level since the dev blogs and nothing has been shown since to reassure any of it has been changed or improved. I dunno, I know beta isn't the whole picture, and I don't want to shit on people's excitement, but I'm tempering my expectations big time.
Don't worry most vets to diablo I'm sure aren't excited, I'm not at all hyped nor do I have high expectations, I hope people learn to not pre-order just because it's a "diablo" game. We gotta stop that mentality or they will keep stealing our hard earned money. It's been 10 years and this literally looks like a reskinned "darker" d3, so sad...
I wish they brought back the runeword system and crafting system as well (not the one they had in D3), it's super cool imo and makes D2 really stand out.
Just looking at the damage ranges (1300-1500) when attacking monsters is a really bad sign of crazy scope creep. It is so difficult for the player to get a grasp of the normal damage ranges when you start with so high ranges.
They shouldn't even have started actually creating the game before designing and establishing a proper loot system/ itemization. That should have been the first step, but right now it seems like the itemization is not more than an afterthought. Like instead of taking D2 and improving on it, they took D3 and tried improving on it. Why?? When D2 itemization was already miles ahead.
How did u not even talk about the actual itemization / affixes on the gear. Weapon dmg, stats, unique and in-depth affixes, etc.. Prolly cause it’s exactly like d3, which blows.
Just looks like D3 with toned down colours. Still missing the sense of dread from D1 and D2. World is too welcoming, feels like the monsters have just been mopping the floor waiting for the player instead of the hopeless barren wasteland that was D1 and D2. Also where is the music ? These games were defined by the creepy and rustic music constantly playing in the background. D4 is just silent ? Come on Blizzard.
The drops in D2 are way too rare for casuals. In this day and age we cater to the masses, so I wouldn't get your hopes up if you liked D2's loot system.
atmosphere... the map is horrific... like.... lets be honest, they didnt nail it at all. Gameplay... the numbers popping up all over the screen and "dodge"... lame, just lame, and the attack skills dont seem fun at all, the sole reason i picked characters or skills was they way we used them in D2 but, none of these characters look any good tbh. and the menus... jeez they're awful boring squares. trading, is just shocking, im glad drop rates are better than D2 because you can play a whole ladder season and still have crap items its my only gripe about D2R, and that sucked, but the whole game just feels like another D3 disaster, so i may as well play D2R, and not spend any money. they should have just used D2R and built a new story line and acts, maybe add some other characters and that would have been 100000 times better than this d4 hot mess were getting.
It looks horrible. I understand blizzard is a corporation first and money is the only goal. I also understand that Dbunkski also has dumb shirts to buy and hormone treatments to pay for, but the fact that the collaboration between the two is so blatant is insulting. Also, was ruining a great game like diablo2 to corral the idiocritic noobs into playing diablo4 really worth it ?
What Diablo game hasn’t survived? So in other words you will be playing, just a year later. Why not just say that then? Also D2 is not AS great as people make it out to be. It isn’t flawless… Ive played all of it and in hardcore. Its at its best in hardcore classic. Or fresh ladder hardcore expansion. Even then the dsjp community, dupping ruins any real competition. Its a silly game at times with its silly merchant aura meta among other weird things. Im personally over it as you can tell.
Well I guess the respec options are better than D2's at least. I don't know why blizzard and hardcore diablo fans are so fixated on screwing you over for wanting to try different builds out without restrictions but hey, at least you can experiment early game I guess.
I hope Magic and rare items will follow the same path as they do in d2. Being Magic can roll higher than any items in the game (3 to certain skill trees, Jeweler's, 40mf, and affix/prefix like that) and rare items have the ability to roll the best items in the game, even though you will never find a eth rep, cruel, knights, Fools, 40ias, 2os divine scepter with 5 to FoH and 3 to conviction, it was a nice thinking one day it would come. Also a free market is what kept d2 going for 20+ years. So I hope they have plans to keep the game fresh because without free trading it might go flat faster than they think
not free market, but offline playability and modders. 90% people play D2 offline, even after release of D2R. Offline mode will never be a thing for D4.
Rares can now be upgraded to legendaries, so the hunt is gonna be for that perfect Rare base item to trade instead - it's still going to be there (just not exactly how D2 did it)
It looks to me they have no direction at all and they have absolutly no idea what they are doing developing this game. Also it looks like a mobile game.
Thanks for you video mate. And well that's too bad news. As far as i understood from your video there is no ultra-rare uniques like in D2(griffon and etc for example) and there are heavy restricted trade. Let's be fair - it's garbage Diablo 3 system again. There are no excuse for this. Honestly i probably wouldn't even buy this game.
I didn't hear this in the video. I heard that you can play a build from the jump without needing to grind for a specific piece of gear that makes the build 'viable'. I heard in the video that there still will be chase items to grind for.
Nope there is ultra rare chase items in the end game that are very difficult to find and are big power gains for your build. It differs from d2 as in builds aren't locked behind insane to find items to be viable. Like how a javazon requires griffins and infinity merc to be worth using.
@@Dbrunski125 To be fair, Diablo 3 also has those items too. You have to grind for ancient primals which requires you to wade through thousands of legendaries.
@@Dbrunski125 unless things are changed from the close beta, i doubt there are really this super rare power gain gear for endgame, or does they mean the ancestral tier gears, then it is going to be a very boring endgame gear grind, due to the fact that you can get the same uniques from a lower tier, say sacred tier, so i presume what the dev meant is, you will still do fine with your build using this sacred unique but the super rare one is the same unique but an ancestral tier (yes that is super rare from the beta). Just my 2cent
I think if they want a big launch and for people to actually pre-order this in mass they will have to open up trading. Otherwise it’s no different than playing a single player game in a sense. Like on every d2 ladder I hardly find runes but I find good uniques to trade for hrs so I can make my rws if not I’d be stuck with a ton of good uniques for nothing.
Restricted trading is not my ideal choice but it's also not a deal breaker for me. As builds aren't restricted behind ultra rare items to work either. Game still has chase items but you can still make a build work unlike d2 and its massive reliance on infinity for example.
strictly speaking on the end game beta leaks i have read elsewhere on the internet, the trading was way more open than i thought it would be tbh. still not completely open like i would prefer, but better than i thought
@@Dbrunski125 not that it’s a deal breaker but I think more people will be waiting for it to go on sale vs pre order or buy day1. Especially with Microsoft mentioning a increase to 70 dollars on blizzard/activision games. The game has a lot of potential but for me trading will make me wait on it. I’ll probably still buy it though.
@@hotpancakes9814 just so you know, trading in the close beta is not essential at all considering how items drop. Well unless that change the drop rates from the close beta.
@@ethan007 yeah but active trading is a very nice way to keep the game alive and community engaged. being able to trade aspects is a nice way to still have some form of market. magic items seem pretty much useless just like in D3 (there are some magics in D2 that are actually useful). Being able to trade rares is nice, because they are good bases for legendaries, but no reason to take away aspect trading. that was actually a fun way for classes and players to intermingle
Im fine with the gearing goals AS LONG AS THEYRE NEW ITEMS. For example i like playing D2 and having double spirit / Lore / Stealth and the upgrading to fathom / nightwing / COH. What i dont want is having "Homing shoulderpads" which have 100 int and then suddenly i find "homing shoulderpads" that have 200 int... give me unique items
thats what its gonna be. Grinding to find the +15 int shoulders. Then grind for the +20.... Its either endless content scaled like that, or unique items that kind of give a final end game = D2
@@wildwest1832 yeah I sure hope it’s the d2 method… you can still have things like a budget smiter with a 4os p diamond shield + black rune word which can successfully do content AND then super rare vex,ohm,ist for exile endgame. Then just scale your greater rifts so that exile can do gr100 and black runeword does gr50…
@@UnStop4ble I think smart loot generally just means role based. So if crown of ages is considered a strength attribute item (melle) then it won’t drop for sorceress.
There is, actually. But the health bar setting is not working when the enemy is a champion, though. It still shows up over their heads even when it's disabled 🥲
Glad to hear that the action during gameplay is slowed down and not all these insane visuals to where you don't know what's happening on your computer screen. D2 did this well as far as pacing of a fight with the exception of boss mechanics being too simple. The clips that were shown about it being dark as well as the music makes me happy so far. Now I'm mostly worried about item bloat when it comes to sets and legendaries that D3 had to the point where rares and magic items didn't matter all too much it felt in the time I played. Legendaries need to be super limited (like grail limited for the really good ones) even more so than uniques. Power level on them also needs to not be super nuts for the people who acquire legos to the ones that don't have any. Hoping the runes are closer to D2 style but more balanced compared to the other items. Others have stated that it's nice to gamble or find a rare item that can be used for builds like 40MF fortuitous rings you can't find on other item types. Blizzard constantly falls into the trap of not separating pvp itemization and skills with pve. It's impossible to balance monsters with all these abilities and HPs to that of another player's abilities, items, and smaller HP pool. I don't want endless systems like paragon leveling, rifts, or all those Inferno levels. It's normal, nightmare, and hell. Divide areas, dungeons, etc of the map like that would be amazing. I'm super curious how farming is going to go with it being open world compared to resetting games or maps in D2.
I honestly liked how D2 handled character progression. You could get maybe 90% of power out of your chosen build in a reasonable amount of time, faster if you had a good mf build to farm items. This allowed you to explore many different classes and builds, . In D3 they tried to archieve this with the seasonsystem which mostly forces you to start from zero every couple of months. Both has his prs and cons but all in all i do prefer the D2 way.
Honestly, D2 did a buncha stuff right which D3 utterly failed in, first and foremost, a reasonable power ceiling for most of the content. You could play nearly anything in D2 and still manage to beat nightmare and potentially even hell. Sure, you may have required crazy bonkers builds to do uber Andariel and the like, but how many people actually ever did them anyway or even knew about them. D3 items compared to D2 items were too overloaded, oh you didn't have that one unique which boost your dmg by 4-20x your normal dmg? Guess you will not be able to farm this even harder difficulty which by the way is like some perpetual motion machine where if you get strong enough for it, ya won't be strong enough for the next difficulty above it, and this will go on FOREVER. One specific single item never had that number bloating in D2 simply by itself, that was only in D3, seeing some of the items in D4, it seems they may be number bloating here too, making anything subpar feel weak and worthless after the first few hours.
I'll likely play through the story, invest a month or 2, then go back to Diablo 2 for another 20x years or so waiting to see if Diablo 5 is any better. Same thing I did with D3! :D
70€ for a STANDARD edition already killed it for me when it's going to have MTX and battle pass stuff for sure. There is no limits for their greediness
Am I the only that finds very unappealing all those big dmg numbers? In the video we saw transition from 12 dmg (which is fine) to 3000 dmg very quickly in a progression I assume is from lvl 1 to 25
Hopefully they don't follow suit with their tight restrictions on later beta tests since I just watched a Jay Wilson discussion and he said it was a mistake that they only allowed act 1 up to Skeleton King to be seen in D3 since they were trying to keep the story under wraps and it made the game suffer overall.
@mindlesstube agreed. I don't wanna dump most of my gameplay hours into leveling up new chars trying to figure out the best build. And I'm sure the casual player doesn't want to either lol
My biggest concern is that even with Diablo 3, the initial impression was quite good, but it never went beyond the initial introduction to anything really worthwhile. The expansion fixed a few things, but they front loaded a lot of great stuff, and then it sort of petered off quickly into the mundane. I was hoping for more of a challenging and tactical experience mixed in with the action-oriented combat that it was advertising, and never really got it. It didn't help that they had some really bizarre ideas about looting and customization that ended up hurting player expression and engagement. The long term is where it always suffers, and it's something no reviewer ever gets a chance to really engage with, nor do they tend to go back and do a long term analysis, except for the dedicated. I started with Diablo 1, and D2 was a step up, with D3 being a few steps down, and it's expansion being a step and a half back up. My hope is that with the new designers in charge, the design philosophy has also changed. The big thing that kept people coming back to Diablo back in the day was it's addictive replayability, and I really hope they can create that for 4.
Your biggest concern SHOULD be cosmetics and Blizzard's monetisation models. This idea that cosmetic microtransactions are somehow 'OK' is utter idiocy: 1. Item cosmetics are meant to be an indicator of player status and power, cosmetics break this. 2. It encourages devs to prioritise cosmetics as they are the paypig, rather than in-game, achievable item sets. 3. It encourages devs to make the cosmetic items the most attractive, or players will just stick to what's achievable in game. 4. It removes content that should be achievable by PLAYING the game, and places it with a UI feature and real money. Yawn.
@@Grumbledookvid It's a joined concern then, because selling skins removes them from play, or trivializes them if they are part of play, because why play the game if you can just buy the end game outright. Which people will defend because they My post was never about Activision Blizzard's garbage monetization practices, because nothing I say or do will stop the money grubbing behavior of modern video game developers and publishers. Wasn't a fan of it for WoW (which I'd argue is more egregious) or GW2, or how they're using it as an incentive to pre-order and buy the collector's edition (which doesn't even come with the game). Selling skins instead of them being rewards sucks, but if the actual gameplay loop sucks, then it's not even worth playing, with or without the microtransaction model.
My biggest complain with Diablo 3 was linear levels. You had one open area per act, and the rest was one stupid corridor. The rest also felt like 1997, far behind Diablo II. Hope they will make something at least Path of Exile level.
1:50 the second you said this, the footage looks IDENTICAL to d3 lol. You could have told me that was d3 and not d4 and i would have absolutely believed you
I mean yes they are both top down viewpoints on a character casting spells or initiating attacks lol.... but you can't tell a difference in game pace or color palet? idk fair enough
@@Dbrunski125 it really looks like d3 but with a darker color palette. Go compare the graphics to the path of exile 2 footage. Even d2r looks way better than d4 is looking. Very disappointed with their visuals
@@Dbrunski125 im not trying to throw shade or start an overdone flame war between d3 and d2 lol. Honestly just all the huge numbers and stuff flying in this little corridor as hes blitzing through there just gave me major d3 vibes. Its been ages so i could be way off base, just thought it was funny coincidence at the exact second you were saying it thats what i felt
@@d8l835 I respect the difference of opinion. Apologies if I came off as a dick. Been taking a lot of flak for just saying I mostly enjoy the game so far
I just had a mini panic attack. He was talking about the feel of D3 and D4 and when I looked over I saw what looked to be a spitting image of D3 and almost had a melt down. Until I realized IT WAS D3 then he switched to D4. Oh thank god lol
If they screw up D4 as bad as D3 was originally then good riddance. They say fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me 😂. We all just want this to be a good game so bad 😤
@@andrespaz989 D4 feels like a good mix between D2 and D3 in my book. There's two things I disliked, the items are all the same size like in D3 and the boss fights were too easy. Other than that I didn't have any complaints so the game should be good as long as not too much stuff is changed from the last Closed Beta which I was invited to.
There seems to be a lot of screen clutter as you're fighting. I hope there's a way to turn that off. Also, let's see if this absolutely requires an internet connection like D3 did. If I can't play without an internet connection then I don't want to play.
1) The "spitting out of enemies" health globes/potions is a big turnoff for me. Not sure how much integrated they are with the game system (skills, buffs etc), but I would prefer something less "flashy" - It takes away from the darkness and grittiness. It feels like Sonic will jump in to collect coins >o< 2) No more inventory tetris - neither cold or hot on this one - probably less trips to town = more time out in the wild 3) The inventory and the item artwork is almost identical to D3 - not a big fun - it always felt a bit lifeless, like an afterthought - I would prefer for them to try something new - it's not like this was a major concept success in D3 4) Did I mention the health globes? >_< 5) The UI seems a bit....small? Not enough gravitas maybe? - can't really put my finger on it 6) Damage numbers are identical to D3 - not a fan - I guess you can just turn them off 7) I do like the environments and the overall atmosphere - at least from what we have seen so far 8) Skill tree looks decent - I think it will work 9) Character customization - I dig it - let people create and live their fantasies! - looks deep enough (but not too complicated to bog you down) 10) No health globes plz - it will hurt my moew-moew :(
Personally i dont like the big flashy 10 million animations which puts out pallet of bright color. Imo, looks like repainted D3 geometry and architecture. Agree with the globes. I bet many of D3's sounds are still front and center. I still can't bring myself to finish D3 but still play modded d2 religiously.
Honestly the game just looks way too simple. 😕 Both in terms of difficulty and how limited (or absent) the character building choices are. I swear Blizzard must think their players are completely braindead and should not get any freedom of choice that might influence how strong their characters become. The skill tree is a joke. Pause at 7:55. That's the skill tree structure. You select Fireball, okay. See how the path branches between two (yes two) different abilities on your Fireball? Can't allow players an intricate skill tree with many options, branching paths and countless different ways to take. How they go with something as dumbed down as this, for the biggest ARPG IP in the world, given a *limitless* budget in the year 2022 (or 2023), is completely beyond me. I'm speechless. If this is what it is, people will be bored by this game within half a year. And all of this is on top of the Diablo Immortal elephant in the room. If this is all it is, there is no way in hell I want to give Blizzard my money.
Why is no content creator acknowledging: Damage numbers: still exponential like D3. Found in broll footage: 6 damage on level 1, 3k damage on lvl 25 (with outlier crits around 20k!!) Art style: it’s a D3 reskin (in the right direction but still, this cartoon style doesn’t fit Diablo IMHO)
If they restrict trade im not playing tbh. I think trade being fully open is one of the things that helped create community in d2. You can't necessarily get all the loot you want on your own. If you want players to interact with each other, then you have to install mechanics that make players interact with each other.
Totally agree. I am afraid Blizzard is focusing too much on self sufficiency and the game will be a single player experience and friends may as well be NPCs.
Trade is good if platforms like d2jsp didn't exist. As it is of now l prefer no trade as wealth accumulated from d2jsp go over to a brand new game in terms of purchase power. And ladders feel bad since not every one is on the same wealth lvl.
@@666TheMetalmaniac666 wealth accumlated anywhere goes into a new game , jsp or not also no trading makes the game less fun . who cares if not everyone on the same wealth level like if you would solve that problem with no trade huh ? ... fcking mental, do you think a lot when you leave a comment like that btw?
For the love of god please remove that glowing effect from dropped legendaries. I absolutely hate it! To me when a legendary drops in D2 your brain can’t really see it at first and for a millisec you kind of have to take a closer look. Is it golden text? IT IS! Oh shit! Is it a “swirling crystal”? Ah fuck it’s yellow xD A couple of hundreds of runs later* OMFG it is golden text this time!!! That’s so much more fun than a completely obvious legendary drop with a ridiculous flashy sound to it.
There is some conflicting information here. In Rhykkers video he said that legendary essences or whatever they're called are NOT tradeable, but that trading will be based heavily on trading great Rare Items that you can then imbue with the Legendary affix that you already have. Also the way the developers said it in the last interview I saw, it is not that it's more work to respec than to start a new char, but just that it won't be possible to respec an endgame build daily because the cost is higher. So it's more like, if you want to respec a high level char, you have to expect that you will play that build for at least a couple of days -> week, before you can respec again. Obviously if you have a char and farm for 4 weeks endgame content, you should have enough resources to respec that char multiple times, they just wanted to stop the D3 version of "i'm doing bounties, click, doing rifts, click, doing GR150, click, going for set-dungeons challenge, click" and play 4 different builds on 1 char in the same hour.
Rhyker is right on the affix trading. And also you’re correct on the gold scaling to respec. It won’t be a flip flop late game. Debrunski stealing content and not doing it well.
If I wanted to play WOW I would renew my subscription. I would not pay for a D4 game that is a carbon copy of WOW. WTF happened Blizzard. Did your developers have a rager and forget what game they were building???
@@nathanielmorben5061 nathan it doesnt matter what shows and what doesn't... bottom scary line : diablo 3 part 2 rather than the NEXT DIABLO 2 BABY BABY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU NOW?
imo diablo4 has already failed before it began. same boring, lame seasonal play. Again making the same DRASTIC mistake diablo3 did with a limited beta. If you think about what the 8 month long diablo3 beta was lvl 1-13 only able to do story upto the skeleton king all for the sake of not spoiling a story written by an amateur writing at middle school level. They could have spent 8 months fixing the game that we ended up hating instead they restricted our play area to save the story and focused more on the stupid auction house then spent a year trying to fix a game which is still broken to this very day since the major flaw with the game is how your weapon is the singular most important thing in the game. And to fix this in the modern game its oh yea lets just boost the damage by THOUSANDS so you do TRILLIONS of damage to make up for having such a garbage foundation. I missing diablo1 where i gave a crap about my character. My character had a name, had history. I wasnt having to delete my character every 3 months. The fact they are taking renown reputation grind and putting it into their 3 month seasonal reset system is also disgusting. Rep grinding and renown in wow is hot garbage and they are adding it to diablo4. I do think the game looks great. While like you said the gameplay seems slower right now thats because of how stupid it got in diablo3. I hated the way diablo3 made you need to play a speedy twitchy gross feeling build. Also the fact that its already pay to win if winning is leveling faster season pass gives you an exp boost. The fact that diablo immortal showed them they have a bunch of whales they can try to milk so they made a $250 collectors edition? buy a box full of physical goods with none of the digital goods then have to buy the digital goods separate... im over blizz. I was on the fence with this game with how bad shadowlands was for a wow expansion. then diablo immortal dropped and that shattered any remaining hope I had for this company. Add to that here we are all these years later and diablo3 still hasnt undone nerfs that were made to spite the players. Traps were so cool when the game launched they would one shot everything. (they still do on console since console build was based off the launch build of diablo3) but the devs decided to give the finger to the fans like the game was so hard people would just kite monsters into the traps to 1 shot them..... so they made traps uselss. traps cant even 1 shot monsters on normal. someone made a joke video about how to farm gold in diablo3. load into act3 open the lore chest in town loot the 100g then exit and restart. blizzard seriously thought this was an issue and nerfed those chests....... wtf
I´m a big fan of the first and second diablo. I played Median XL a ton and played trough 90h of D3 but i have to say that D2/Median Xl were the most fun i had. This D4 looks, to my eye´s, absolutely boring. The animations look like D Immortal. The tree seems uninspireing. The whole concept looks nothing more then Okay to me. I hope the story will be at least amazing to justify that people spend money on this. Personaly i won´t buy it, at least not for the asked price. I really hope i´m wrong but I usually am not.
Blizzard has completely lost me as a player. This game will just be a bunch of currencies that depreciate in value as you level up and can be bought with real world money. I bet unlocking everything costs $100,000 like their last Diablo game.
It sounds like a slowed down version of D3 to me. D4 needs to be forward progression from D3. They cracked open D2r, if they want to do more for that game; its software, no ones stopping them, and they should. Its never too late.
I hope everyone takes all these beta reviews with a huge grain of salt. We heard great things about Diablo 3 beta and we know how that turned out. I'm not saying that you're a shill or anything, but there's a lot of optimism for a game that's a slightly improved Diablo 3 with a cash shop. Maybe that's just the state of gaming now, that even average titles are a big deal because so much crap comes out. What I know for sure is that Blizzard hasn't done a lot of good in such a long time, especially if you factor in that D2R wasn't even done by them, and it's hard to imagine them finding their way all of a sudden.
magic items are essentially useless. it’s nice we can trade rare items because they can be really useful legendary bases for aspects. i read during end game beta you could trade legendary aspects. i thought that was a really nice compromise. i really hope they will bring that back if trading aspects is really gone now
I read somewhere that magic items will have the highest range on affix rolls. If that is true, they might actually have their own little niche (similar to D2, where blues could be very desireable for certain things). No idea if that is true, though.
You said you're not a fan of the trading as it is in the game right now, Voice your opinion TO BLIZZARD about this. They don't listen to the community but they do listen to the streamers. It's up to the streamers to fix D4.
You know what I loved? Diablo 2's version of faceless Tyrael. The voice acting of the Archangel was bang on. I don't know why they had to ruin a good thing in D3.
Is llama the only one of you free marketers that hasn't jumped on the mindless shill wagon? I notice that he's mysteriously absent when every other streamer mindlessly praises D4 (while saying very little about it) all at the same time. This looks like a crappy MMO Diablo 3 and no amount of shilling convinces me otherwise.
*Quick note. You can't trade extracted Legendary affixes at the moment. Would be a cool compromise though for the trading community if you could though. The intention here is you can still salvage a really rare legendary quality even if it drops for a different character. Hope you enjoyed the review and are as excited for D4 as I am !!!* Discord: discord.gg/xy3EynP Support the Stream !! streamelements.com/se-6922588/tip Become a Channel Member !! ua-cam.com/channels/Fc8CBNDUFLc1hN5UayNR8g.htmljoin Twitch: www.twitch.tv/dbrunski125
I think this is good. To be honest it makes high stat GG rares more valuable. Becuase now you can take that GG rare and slam a legendary aspect from a garbage roll legendary you smashed
Not being able to respec will just lead to metas. Asmongold said this and I agree. Everyone is just going to follow the meta cause its a big time sink to restart a new character
IF it would be in spirit of D2 (or D2R) you would roam the open world forever while dealing with harder mobs and finding no healing pots or shrines. Would feel like a survival mode experience with a cool char.
That wouldn't be the spirit of D2, though lol That is nothing like D2 and more like V Rising. Don't get me wrong, V Rising is a fun, cool game for what it is, but it is not a Diablo game.
A true spirit of D2 would be having 4 inventory space and having to go back to town every 2 seconds to sell or stop everything you're doing to play Tetris in your bag menu.
@@justincampbell3132 Yeah I hate that with D2, I know people are licking D2's ass but let's be honest it have a lot of flaws with todays standard. Like no real end-game, sparse stash room, need for half inventory filled with potions and stupid charms. All that could have their own smaller belt or stash slot and most likely would in modern games. The stop motion of spells and such is not really that great either considering the flow Diablo 3 got with the rifts which was a nice thing in it's own way. And even though D2 have a lot of great and iconic sounds that are top notch a lot of the sounds are also crappy and makes no sense to what is happening on screen. Spells and skills GFX for some characters are a bit underwheling as well even if I do enjoy the less glow and sparks and so on that fly in overload in D3 even from arrows and melee heroes. The bigger skills still need to have some meat to them and they don't always in D2 which makes your pretty high leveled character still feel like a level 1. So a nicer progression of getting stronger and looking more badass with more and more great looking skills is a must to engage me these days. More blood, teeth and sweat flying from enemies when hit and less sparks and japanese inspired anime effects in my opinion.
lets be honest here guys on diablo 3 they droped the ball .. and POE too the crown .. if D4 wants to compete with POE they had better make a stunning game right out of the gate or there gonna fail... POE has an awsome amount of content for a free game and its fun to play ... so if blizz are gonna charge like 60 bucks for d4 it better be dam good
as long as I don't need to kill diablo 200 times to try and get a rare drop or rune then it's fine. D3 had loot too easily, but D2 was ridiculous with some items being so rare they are next to impossible to get for anyone who is not completely committed. The runes needed for some "mandatory" items were ridiculous.
Diablo 2 blew up and continued to be relevant for decades because of the free market. Not solely, but in large part. If they really want to make a game for the "diablo fan base" and not the new fanbase they created with diablo 3, they should just stop trying to control the market.
On the topic of trading, I remember an early discussion where it was mentioned that magics and rares to be valuable. So, being able to trade affixes makes sense. You can "build" a really good rare out of them. This takes in account a crafting discussion in the quartlilies as well. I like this. I hate in d3 that magic and rares suck after leveling. I like in D2R farming bases and having useful magic and rare items that you can use, even after completing all the acts and are farming higher content. You can do ubers and clone with these. You only need "end game gear" if you want to farm faster, which really means "farming p8 efficiently". Just a thought.
I recall the same that the best items are going to be from a godly rolled rares and magics as a base, upgraded in quality, and having a legendary power imbued. Trading will likely revolve around trading good bases. Restricting trading ancients and beyond prevents people just making trading the best finished items and going from zero to hero without any effort. If this turns out to be true, it’ll make for healthy trading that requires understanding of what you want to make.
Unlimited customization with little cost is a catastrophic design choice for a RPG. If I don’t have weight behind my character decisions I stop caring.
I was on the beta as well. Not at all interested in the game. Didn't even make it past level 20. Got bored of the usual grind and there's nothing compelling about the gameplay or content that would make me invest my time playing it.
Yeah…….. what makes d2 and d2r so special are runes, jewels, and charms. If they don’t have that I’m not paying or playing. The grind in d2 to finally see a ber drop or Jah rune or a 3/20/20 small charm is what makes d2 so much better. And the skill tree. But mostly the items.
I really hated the drop on level unique with cringy effects instead of d2 specific level uniques with awesome stats as anchor point for your build. Really missed that, the rush you get from dropping an anchor point is kinda gone now.
This time i will definitely wait and observe the game for at least a month after it is released before i purchase it. Won't make the same mistake as i did with D3 ten years ago. I have been playing D2 (now D2R) for 20 years and if D4 turns out like D3 then it is D2 forever for me.
highly doubt the game will be good or have anywhere near the replicability as Diablo 2 had. Guarantee they will oversimplify the game & add in a dumb pay store for people to get skins or something else Blizzard can't make good games anymore & they don't hire staff based on merit, they hire based on diversity.
Hey, I remember watching you 2018, early 2019 when I living in a shelter and playing d2 plugY on a laptop, nice to see that your channel has grown! Unfortunately I accidentally formatted the USB drive where I had my singleplayer self-found characters and lost my Necro with 325% infinity merc, enigma etc. I've been on the D4 closed beta but I havn't been playing much lately because of the new WoW expansion and Starcraft. I think D4 needs alot of more dev time though as it is, the gameplay and content is kinda lacking to my tastes. Wish you all the best!
when D3 had a level restriction for Beta , that's because they have done nothing for end game then . If they have this restriction again for D4 ... then that would mean they don't have any good end game
Totally agree with you on respeccing your character and allowing your class to do everything. That's one thing I didn't like about Diablo 3. I liked having a dedicated character for a build in D2, like two Druids one for Werewolf the other for Wind. It makes the characters feel like they have more of an identity as opposed to it being a class that you can put different armor sets on and then respec easily to play another build.
@@PistokoTheComeBack it leads to people just making the same cookie cutter builds. Look at everyone using the same exact skills with the same exact rune words in Diablo 2. Wow so much creativity and learning going on there. So great.
On progression and loot/gear: Good. class/build viability throughout the game is so important. I hated, and still hate trying to find 5/6 1-in-a-billion items in hopes that you can SOMEDAY MAYBE play a build. Love the chase, hate the abysmal play without god tier items.
One thing I learned from playing a awesome diablo 2 mod that few people know of (Eastern Sun) is that having TONS of different items constantly dropping that are all useful in different ways creates a Addictive and fun as well as rewarding feel. Its not quite there in the base game. I can't do wow because all you do after you max lvl is case items from dungeons and raids to get a tiny upgrade in stats... if players do not feel rewarded they won't play.
This was once a fantastic comment, hence the amount of comments and thumbs up, but I am now sick of the notifications and want them to stop.
Pre order tomorrow.. the hype is real… trust me
its on game pass day one, if the deal goes through, try it for 1$ if thats the case
Have faith. Just don't pre order.
I hear you. Blizzard's reputation is in the gutter. I picked up Diablo 2 on day one and had zero doubts about how awesome it would be, but those days are long gone.
Having heavily played the beta, I'm not pre-ordering but will buy the game after release.
I have always hated the bind on account garbage ever since I first experienced it in world of Warcraft. I understand that they are trying to do this too obstruct D2JSP as well as other sites from changing the game aspects but there has to be a better way. Those sites and other people will always find a way
It's funny they did that because d2jsp is the only thing breathing life Into the franchise.
@@matt80_s definitely agree with that for the current games most likely. I'll be honest though, I think people would enjoy the game much more if they didn't use sources like JSP. Things are always better when you have to work for them. I actually loved the Gold auction house on Diablo 3. I thought that was a great way for them to make use of gold aside from repairs lol
@@shattered-reflection8045 I think D2R would benefit heavily from an official trade website that doesn't utilize real money but Blizzard just can't resist the temptation to monetize their games further. If they made a trade website, it would have a real money option 100%.
@Shattered-Reflection most definitely but the trade stytem in d2 resulted in jsp becoming huge.
@@FoodDipFan i think d2r would benefit heavily from a chat that does work propercly and game descriptions that actually show up.
I admire you guys who still have so much time to spend endless hours playing complex games 🙂
because they are youtubers and dropouts, they don't have to work in corporate world, their work is to just play all day everyday.
This actually sounds pretty cool. I like the balance changes, and that it won't just be like D3 (being someone who started at D2, has enjoyed D3 a lot in the past, but lately has been all about D2R). Very intrigued and hyped about the game after this video! Thank you for posting the review! @Dbrunski125
Everyone needs to spek out about LAN PLAY Or OFFLINE P:LAY with NO internet.
@@DeathbringerDrago Serious question. But what is significance of this? Just so you can host a LAN party and not have to deal with outside servers?
@@gabenewelltheprotector3548 The significance of this is being free to play your game you bought with your own money OFFLINE without blowshard err blizzard being able to practice tyranny against its players. You people who are condoning online play only are brainwashed and there's no hope for you as far as standing up to blowshard err blizzard to stop this nonsense. If I lose internet I should be able to fully play this game. Tornado bad storms or anything can happen to knock a persons internet out for weeks on end. At that point BLOWZhard err Blizzard is not providing a service to the gamer at all. Making someone pay for something and not providing a service is against the law. Make it happen BLOWSHARD err blizzard. Offline play or lose popularity even more.
Let the trolling begin.
@@DeathbringerDrago You are correct. But on the other hand, you agreed to play for a product. YOu accepted the terms.
I also preffer to have an offline mode and dont understand why they dont put it. I guess is from greed.......
In general, computer games are stupid and not very well craeted with purpose. They are trying to put the new generation in the VR and all that crap.
The old games with keyboard and mouse are in its last years, trust me on that. And its made artificially, its not a natural thing.
Blizzard/Activision won't have me pre-order anything anymore. Lets see how the game is in 6 monts
If trading isn't unrestricted i won't be playing unfortunately. Will stick with d2r
if the chase items are impactful, like deaths fathom or griffons eye, i'm fine with the loot system. if the chase items are micro upgrades or better rolls on the same item, it's gonna get old quick.
It depends on the way PvP is set up. In D2, the ultra rare items like griffon or DF are rarely used in PvP, but the rare items that do get used tend to be a lot more expensive. In that scenario, I completely agree with you. If, on the other hand, the chase items are best in slot for PvP as well as PvM, then it's going to be a problem. The game will probably focus a lot on PvP, as this is what people will stream and have competitions for and will give blizzard free marketing, so if they just have legendary/unique items as best in slot, it will end again with every player having the same build, which is something they wanted to avoid with that whole legendary essence concept. I personally don't care that much if the rarest item is just a small upgrade from the less rare alternative because that means that they aren't necessary to play the char to it's full capabilities. I'd be pissed if a 1:million drop is essential to my build or boosts my damage so much that it's either boring to play with or not fun at all to play without.
yup, really hope the chase isnt like current d3 lol or poe is still gonna be king.
I personally hope that PvP will give you access to unique gear, maybe a point system for wins or kills or however it works. I just dont engage in PvP when the only reward is bragging rights in a loot driven game.
@user-js8bp5dg8t I would really dislike that. It should be cosmetic at the most. Forcing people to play PvP to get items never ends well for the longevity of the game or the trade-economy. I really dislike PvP in diablo games, I just want to level and farm on my own or with some friends. If they had specific gear locked behind PvP, it would take away a lot of my enjoyment of the game.
@@EtTuBrutalizer D3 loot system is booty. I hate so much about D3.
Looks like a cool game... to play while waiting for the new D2R ladder to start.
My thoughts exactly! haha
reality of it is going to be alternating between poe leagues and d2r ladders xD
This guy gets it
D4 will be fine without your support. Just don't buy the game 😃
@@DarkWanderer666 Sure. I mean D3 was also fine financially, right? Even though it rock bottomed almost every user review site. D4 better follow the D2 recipe is all I am saying.
Don't know what it is exactly, but based on all the footage despite it looking dark and gritty it still does not feel grounded. Feels like an mmo with your character flying above the content, in a sense. D1 and D2 feels very grounded, and the pace of this is very much like D3 and the character interacting with the environment feels very arcade-y.
@@dissociate_d Thanks, will gladly go back to D2r 👋
Yup. Everything looks so weightless.
Yep I totally agree. I also don’t like all these UI elements for “dungeon complete” or level up, damage number, healtbar, …
@@maximhebert-gareau4461 Bro i hate dmg numbers so much, copletely destroys immersion and just tell me i play jet another number game with some graphical overlay
To me it still just looks like Diablo 3 with a dark, bloody coat of paint on it and some new systems.
Which, sadly, means that I am going to have to give it a hard pass.
If the D2 itemization and free trading was coming, I’d actually be super hyped for this game. That was really what made D2 so amazing. I’ll probably not buy D4 for that reason. It’s just not for me.
Agree 100%. The itemization and economy is what makes Diablo fun. If they don’t get the core stuff right, the rest of it just falls apart.
It's not Diablo game. They just named it so.
Free trading just makes the game pay to win because of sites like jsp. I’ve been playing a lot classic wow pvp and I don’t have to worry about dueling a person who spent 10k$ on forum gold and just wrecked my shit.
@@abrahammartinez3642 not everyone play diablo for pvp
@@ethan007 most people are not in it for pvp. But pvp was what drove the market for Diablo 2
No trading? No thanks.
"We are limiting trading due to our own incompetence of preventing bots and RMT"-blizzard
who cares about rmt , just stop bots xD
All games with open trade have bots and rmt, so I guess all game companies are incompetent. FF
@@emmanuelguerrero3071 you never gonna stop rmt thats what secretly make or break games belive it or not xD , as for bots fuck em
@@Resouler blizz cares about RMT. That's the whole reason the D3 auction house was invented, to cut out the RMT websites.
@@emmanuelguerrero3071 yes, your right. Solving the bot issue is so simple. Have real GM's. There's a reason boting gets worse when a company doesn't moderate their games. Blizz is the worst example of this
I don’t get it. Why is dropping an item on the floor for others to pick up and use is such a foreign concept for these guys. Forget about trading. How about coop team play, sharing loot, playing the game with your buddies? Would it make sense to share all the stuff you find without ambiguous restrictions? Like Helloooo… Blizzard. Are you making a community experience game or what?
I don't get it, why is any item that drops immediately gets a price value because of 3rd party websites, forums and sale sites. Why do players spend thousands of dollars to win in pvp for a fully decked out character.
I don't get why d2 is flooded with spam chats selling items. Hell even the Chaos Sanctuary discord even PROMOTES Chinese bot items shops.
See where I'm going with this?
@@scdogg444 because D2 has a thriving economy.
All the things you listed exist in the real world too. If you design a game well with good itemization, items will have real world value.
@@FunFunFun120 thriving economy??? You're funny. The market is so flooded by the time I even FIND and Ist or a Vex rune it's worthless.
@@scdogg444 Exactly! I get why people want it, but it will clearly allow third party people to ruin the game. It's time we accepted this.
Guys, some people buy, others don’t.
Can’t generalize everything based on one aspect.
I also said that if you decouple trading - there is no coop/community fun of playing together. You just keep what you find and can’t give your buddy that bow you just found, for example.
I would rather have a choice of trading and sharing openly vs doing the holy grail first and then start to enjoy the game building classes.
Remember cyberpunk guys, wait for full release, check reviews and in depth analysis
Value your money
After Cyberpunk I will never buy a new game. I might pick a game up a year after release and only at a heavy discount. The industry has fallen too far and needs to have the rot removed.
If you can’t trade the best items you basically can’t trade.
disappointing to say the least. I really wanted free trade like D2.
Free in today's Actiblizz world. Oh, sweet summer child.
@@HighLanderPonyYT I don't think "free" means what you think it means in this context.
@@KatoKrazy You might be right.
Haha this comes off as a review from a prison held at gunpoint reading a cue card, but appreciate you saying what you could say about it! :)
That means they will be selling those items you can’t trade for. Without a doubt
So the the question that I have is, are we going to be playing this for 3/4 months and going back to D2 or will it be able to stand on its own?
I think we already know the answer to that lol
I have said it before and I will say it again, d2r is exactly what d3 and/or d4 should have been. D2 lod is still the best game ever always has been always will be. I don't like the taking the skills off items and putting them on others, maybe I am just old and set in my ways or maybe I love d2lod to much lol
I hate to be this cynical, but this “review” basically told us that Diablo 4 is an ARPG. How is trading NOT figured out yet? Isn’t it theorized to be launching in less than 6 months? Are you kidding me? Shouldn’t they be in the polishing phase? Not still figuring out game systems. If they were confident in Diablo 4 then they’d put the game out there so we can see it, stop restricting all the info and let the people play the beta instead of just basically content creators. My guess is that Diablo 4 is average at best and they know it. Otherwise, why not talk about it at THIS point so close to launch. They want to hide that as long as possible to make as many people as they can buy it full priced at launch. That’s what you think when you present the game like they have.
Its 2023. Polish on a video game stopped in the early to mid 2000s. Also, its a blizzard game
They don’t want everyone to realize it’s a D3 reskin 🥲
Fuck em I wont buy
OF COURSE THEY WANT PROFIR THIS IS CALLED BUSINESS
@@jfeist6205 except elden ring
The more I see from the beta, the more my excitement dies. It seems the only thing they're really getting right is atmosphere and combat, which is great, but the systems and itemization have been looking surface level since the dev blogs and nothing has been shown since to reassure any of it has been changed or improved.
I dunno, I know beta isn't the whole picture, and I don't want to shit on people's excitement, but I'm tempering my expectations big time.
JUST LIKE D3 :() :() :()
Don't worry most vets to diablo I'm sure aren't excited, I'm not at all hyped nor do I have high expectations, I hope people learn to not pre-order just because it's a "diablo" game. We gotta stop that mentality or they will keep stealing our hard earned money. It's been 10 years and this literally looks like a reskinned "darker" d3, so sad...
I wish they brought back the runeword system and crafting system as well (not the one they had in D3), it's super cool imo and makes D2 really stand out.
Just looking at the damage ranges (1300-1500) when attacking monsters is a really bad sign of crazy scope creep. It is so difficult for the player to get a grasp of the normal damage ranges when you start with so high ranges.
They shouldn't even have started actually creating the game before designing and establishing a proper loot system/ itemization. That should have been the first step, but right now it seems like the itemization is not more than an afterthought. Like instead of taking D2 and improving on it, they took D3 and tried improving on it. Why?? When D2 itemization was already miles ahead.
How did u not even talk about the actual itemization / affixes on the gear. Weapon dmg, stats, unique and in-depth affixes, etc.. Prolly cause it’s exactly like d3, which blows.
Just looks like D3 with toned down colours. Still missing the sense of dread from D1 and D2. World is too welcoming, feels like the monsters have just been mopping the floor waiting for the player instead of the hopeless barren wasteland that was D1 and D2. Also where is the music ? These games were defined by the creepy and rustic music constantly playing in the background. D4 is just silent ? Come on Blizzard.
Is there the option to disable the damage numbers popping up on screen during attacks? It ruins the immersion for me.
Agreed.
Is there an option to remove health bars above enemies and players, also remove damage numbers on screen? I just want the bar at the top of the screen
i was thinking the same, hate to see so many information on the screen, i want to see the monsters
he doesnt even care if the game sucks or not he just want to customize it i love it :D:D
After playing POE for just a few hours you can tell this isn't looking very good.
Guess it will be another 10 years of D2 for me!
If that’s true, i might buy d3 again and finally play it on pc.
Lol what a surprise
Cant jsp all your gear, gotta work for it. How terrible.
Whats wrong with that? lol. sheesh just play what you like
@@marshamatters9583 I hate jsp too but d4 is just d3 loot and you find all your gear in 2-3 days lol… (yes I played the beta)
Diablo 2 and Resurrected forever❤
just fix chat and descriptions :@
The loot system in Diablo 2 is the heart and soul of the game removing it in Diablo 4 will ruin it
The drops in D2 are way too rare for casuals. In this day and age we cater to the masses, so I wouldn't get your hopes up if you liked D2's loot system.
Thanks DB, appreciate the review!
atmosphere... the map is horrific... like.... lets be honest, they didnt nail it at all.
Gameplay... the numbers popping up all over the screen and "dodge"... lame, just lame, and the attack skills dont seem fun at all, the sole reason i picked characters or skills was they way we used them in D2 but, none of these characters look any good tbh.
and the menus... jeez they're awful boring squares.
trading, is just shocking, im glad drop rates are better than D2 because you can play a whole ladder season and still have crap items its my only gripe about D2R, and that sucked, but the whole game just feels like another D3 disaster, so i may as well play D2R, and not spend any money.
they should have just used D2R and built a new story line and acts, maybe add some other characters and that would have been 100000 times better than this d4 hot mess were getting.
It looks horrible. I understand blizzard is a corporation first and money is the only goal. I also understand that Dbunkski also has dumb shirts to buy and hormone treatments to pay for, but the fact that the collaboration between the two is so blatant is insulting. Also, was ruining a great game like diablo2 to corral the idiocritic noobs into playing diablo4 really worth it ?
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no expectations here, if it survives a year might try it but not gonna get suckered into another diablo again that can't beat d2
What Diablo game hasn’t survived? So in other words you will be playing, just a year later. Why not just say that then?
Also D2 is not AS great as people make it out to be. It isn’t flawless… Ive played all of it and in hardcore. Its at its best in hardcore classic. Or fresh ladder hardcore expansion. Even then the dsjp community, dupping ruins any real competition. Its a silly game at times with its silly merchant aura meta among other weird things. Im personally over it as you can tell.
God just let players trade like in D2. Stop trying to control the players, let the players determine the market. THATS THE FUN.
Never clicked on a video so fast
Well I guess the respec options are better than D2's at least. I don't know why blizzard and hardcore diablo fans are so fixated on screwing you over for wanting to try different builds out without restrictions but hey, at least you can experiment early game I guess.
I hope Magic and rare items will follow the same path as they do in d2. Being Magic can roll higher than any items in the game (3 to certain skill trees, Jeweler's, 40mf, and affix/prefix like that) and rare items have the ability to roll the best items in the game, even though you will never find a eth rep, cruel, knights, Fools, 40ias, 2os divine scepter with 5 to FoH and 3 to conviction, it was a nice thinking one day it would come.
Also a free market is what kept d2 going for 20+ years. So I hope they have plans to keep the game fresh because without free trading it might go flat faster than they think
not free market, but offline playability and modders. 90% people play D2 offline, even after release of D2R. Offline mode will never be a thing for D4.
Rares can now be upgraded to legendaries, so the hunt is gonna be for that perfect Rare base item to trade instead - it's still going to be there (just not exactly how D2 did it)
@@mapron1 I e been playing Diablo 2 since 8th grade I'm in my mid 30's, I have never played D2 in offline mode. I have always had internet....
@@freshandsaltyjohnny I got access to the internet maybe 5 years ago. Probably you live in the rich country.
@@mapron1 90%? Nah. Most people play online for the trading aspect. Probably 70%online
It looks to me they have no direction at all and they have absolutly no idea what they are doing developing this game.
Also it looks like a mobile game.
Thanks for you video mate.
And well that's too bad news.
As far as i understood from your video there is no ultra-rare uniques like in D2(griffon and etc for example) and there are heavy restricted trade.
Let's be fair - it's garbage Diablo 3 system again. There are no excuse for this. Honestly i probably wouldn't even buy this game.
I didn't hear this in the video. I heard that you can play a build from the jump without needing to grind for a specific piece of gear that makes the build 'viable'.
I heard in the video that there still will be chase items to grind for.
Nope there is ultra rare chase items in the end game that are very difficult to find and are big power gains for your build.
It differs from d2 as in builds aren't locked behind insane to find items to be viable. Like how a javazon requires griffins and infinity merc to be worth using.
@@Dbrunski125 To be fair, Diablo 3 also has those items too. You have to grind for ancient primals which requires you to wade through thousands of legendaries.
@@FoodDipFan yup that is accurate
@@Dbrunski125 unless things are changed from the close beta, i doubt there are really this super rare power gain gear for endgame, or does they mean the ancestral tier gears, then it is going to be a very boring endgame gear grind, due to the fact that you can get the same uniques from a lower tier, say sacred tier, so i presume what the dev meant is, you will still do fine with your build using this sacred unique but the super rare one is the same unique but an ancestral tier (yes that is super rare from the beta). Just my 2cent
To be honest doesnt look promising. Itemization is so bad to begin with. This looks so much like d3
I think if they want a big launch and for people to actually pre-order this in mass they will have to open up trading. Otherwise it’s no different than playing a single player game in a sense. Like on every d2 ladder I hardly find runes but I find good uniques to trade for hrs so I can make my rws if not I’d be stuck with a ton of good uniques for nothing.
Restricted trading is not my ideal choice but it's also not a deal breaker for me. As builds aren't restricted behind ultra rare items to work either. Game still has chase items but you can still make a build work unlike d2 and its massive reliance on infinity for example.
strictly speaking on the end game beta leaks i have read elsewhere on the internet, the trading was way more open than i thought it would be tbh. still not completely open like i would prefer, but better than i thought
@@Dbrunski125 not that it’s a deal breaker but I think more people will be waiting for it to go on sale vs pre order or buy day1. Especially with Microsoft mentioning a increase to 70 dollars on blizzard/activision games. The game has a lot of potential but for me trading will make me wait on it. I’ll probably still buy it though.
@@hotpancakes9814 just so you know, trading in the close beta is not essential at all considering how items drop. Well unless that change the drop rates from the close beta.
@@ethan007 yeah but active trading is a very nice way to keep the game alive and community engaged. being able to trade aspects is a nice way to still have some form of market. magic items seem pretty much useless just like in D3 (there are some magics in D2 that are actually useful). Being able to trade rares is nice, because they are good bases for legendaries, but no reason to take away aspect trading. that was actually a fun way for classes and players to intermingle
If you can have a viable tri-spec character then that will be a welcome change. Tired of specialising in 1 type.. it's dull and cookie cutter.
Im fine with the gearing goals AS LONG AS THEYRE NEW ITEMS. For example i like playing D2 and having double spirit / Lore / Stealth and the upgrading to fathom / nightwing / COH. What i dont want is having "Homing shoulderpads" which have 100 int and then suddenly i find "homing shoulderpads" that have 200 int... give me unique items
thats what its gonna be. Grinding to find the +15 int shoulders. Then grind for the +20.... Its either endless content scaled like that, or unique items that kind of give a final end game = D2
@@wildwest1832 yeah I sure hope it’s the d2 method… you can still have things like a budget smiter with a 4os p diamond shield + black rune word which can successfully do content AND then super rare vex,ohm,ist for exile endgame. Then just scale your greater rifts so that exile can do gr100 and black runeword does gr50…
I got some bad news for ya bro...
isnt it already confirmed that it has "smart loot" or is smart loot something else?
@@UnStop4ble I think smart loot generally just means role based. So if crown of ages is considered a strength attribute item (melle) then it won’t drop for sorceress.
lol, acting like you're forced to get Infinity to make a fire sorc "viable" 😂
is there a setting to not show damage numbers?
There is, actually. But the health bar setting is not working when the enemy is a champion, though. It still shows up over their heads even when it's disabled 🥲
2:12 Combat sounds *exactly* like D3 combat, lol.
Just call it d3r , that's what it is nearly
Glad to hear that the action during gameplay is slowed down and not all these insane visuals to where you don't know what's happening on your computer screen. D2 did this well as far as pacing of a fight with the exception of boss mechanics being too simple. The clips that were shown about it being dark as well as the music makes me happy so far.
Now I'm mostly worried about item bloat when it comes to sets and legendaries that D3 had to the point where rares and magic items didn't matter all too much it felt in the time I played. Legendaries need to be super limited (like grail limited for the really good ones) even more so than uniques. Power level on them also needs to not be super nuts for the people who acquire legos to the ones that don't have any. Hoping the runes are closer to D2 style but more balanced compared to the other items. Others have stated that it's nice to gamble or find a rare item that can be used for builds like 40MF fortuitous rings you can't find on other item types. Blizzard constantly falls into the trap of not separating pvp itemization and skills with pve. It's impossible to balance monsters with all these abilities and HPs to that of another player's abilities, items, and smaller HP pool.
I don't want endless systems like paragon leveling, rifts, or all those Inferno levels. It's normal, nightmare, and hell. Divide areas, dungeons, etc of the map like that would be amazing. I'm super curious how farming is going to go with it being open world compared to resetting games or maps in D2.
I honestly liked how D2 handled character progression. You could get maybe 90% of power out of your chosen build in a reasonable amount of time, faster if you had a good mf build to farm items. This allowed you to explore many different classes and builds, . In D3 they tried to archieve this with the seasonsystem which mostly forces you to start from zero every couple of months. Both has his prs and cons but all in all i do prefer the D2 way.
Honestly, D2 did a buncha stuff right which D3 utterly failed in, first and foremost, a reasonable power ceiling for most of the content. You could play nearly anything in D2 and still manage to beat nightmare and potentially even hell. Sure, you may have required crazy bonkers builds to do uber Andariel and the like, but how many people actually ever did them anyway or even knew about them. D3 items compared to D2 items were too overloaded, oh you didn't have that one unique which boost your dmg by 4-20x your normal dmg? Guess you will not be able to farm this even harder difficulty which by the way is like some perpetual motion machine where if you get strong enough for it, ya won't be strong enough for the next difficulty above it, and this will go on FOREVER.
One specific single item never had that number bloating in D2 simply by itself, that was only in D3, seeing some of the items in D4, it seems they may be number bloating here too, making anything subpar feel weak and worthless after the first few hours.
No free trade == RIP. We'll play PoE2, thanks.
I'll likely play through the story, invest a month or 2, then go back to Diablo 2 for another 20x years or so waiting to see if Diablo 5 is any better. Same thing I did with D3! :D
^^
70€ for a STANDARD edition already killed it for me when it's going to have MTX and battle pass stuff for sure. There is no limits for their greediness
6:53 - I hope they make the item icons bigger than this, so you can actually see what the item looks like.
this - the item art looks so garbage and cartoony in these tiny slots - D2 and D2R items look infinitely better
Agreed looks aweful.
Am I the only that finds very unappealing all those big dmg numbers? In the video we saw transition from 12 dmg (which is fine) to 3000 dmg very quickly in a progression I assume is from lvl 1 to 25
I didn't like it. Hopefully there is an option to turn it off..
Hopefully they don't follow suit with their tight restrictions on later beta tests since I just watched a Jay Wilson discussion and he said it was a mistake that they only allowed act 1 up to Skeleton King to be seen in D3 since they were trying to keep the story under wraps and it made the game suffer overall.
I was surprised this recent beta was so restricted. I played the closed beat and revealed every inch of the map. It's huge!
I agree 100% about choices being meaningful with the limited respect. Unlimited respect is just meh...
Nah leveling new characters is so boring, i rather be able to respec.
@mindlesstube agreed. I don't wanna dump most of my gameplay hours into leveling up new chars trying to figure out the best build. And I'm sure the casual player doesn't want to either lol
Put a huge in-game coin $ cost on it after the first batch of respecs. That'll balance it out.
My biggest concern is that even with Diablo 3, the initial impression was quite good, but it never went beyond the initial introduction to anything really worthwhile. The expansion fixed a few things, but they front loaded a lot of great stuff, and then it sort of petered off quickly into the mundane. I was hoping for more of a challenging and tactical experience mixed in with the action-oriented combat that it was advertising, and never really got it. It didn't help that they had some really bizarre ideas about looting and customization that ended up hurting player expression and engagement.
The long term is where it always suffers, and it's something no reviewer ever gets a chance to really engage with, nor do they tend to go back and do a long term analysis, except for the dedicated. I started with Diablo 1, and D2 was a step up, with D3 being a few steps down, and it's expansion being a step and a half back up. My hope is that with the new designers in charge, the design philosophy has also changed. The big thing that kept people coming back to Diablo back in the day was it's addictive replayability, and I really hope they can create that for 4.
Your biggest concern SHOULD be cosmetics and Blizzard's monetisation models. This idea that cosmetic microtransactions are somehow 'OK' is utter idiocy:
1. Item cosmetics are meant to be an indicator of player status and power, cosmetics break this.
2. It encourages devs to prioritise cosmetics as they are the paypig, rather than in-game, achievable item sets.
3. It encourages devs to make the cosmetic items the most attractive, or players will just stick to what's achievable in game.
4. It removes content that should be achievable by PLAYING the game, and places it with a UI feature and real money. Yawn.
@@Grumbledookvid It's a joined concern then, because selling skins removes them from play, or trivializes them if they are part of play, because why play the game if you can just buy the end game outright. Which people will defend because they
My post was never about Activision Blizzard's garbage monetization practices, because nothing I say or do will stop the money grubbing behavior of modern video game developers and publishers. Wasn't a fan of it for WoW (which I'd argue is more egregious) or GW2, or how they're using it as an incentive to pre-order and buy the collector's edition (which doesn't even come with the game).
Selling skins instead of them being rewards sucks, but if the actual gameplay loop sucks, then it's not even worth playing, with or without the microtransaction model.
My biggest complain with Diablo 3 was linear levels. You had one open area per act, and the rest was one stupid corridor. The rest also felt like 1997, far behind Diablo II.
Hope they will make something at least Path of Exile level.
I just installed a 3070 ti, makes d2r look phenomenal. Not sure if I want a d4. But that lillith bro
1:50 the second you said this, the footage looks IDENTICAL to d3 lol. You could have told me that was d3 and not d4 and i would have absolutely believed you
I mean yes they are both top down viewpoints on a character casting spells or initiating attacks lol.... but you can't tell a difference in game pace or color palet? idk fair enough
@@Dbrunski125 it really looks like d3 but with a darker color palette. Go compare the graphics to the path of exile 2 footage. Even d2r looks way better than d4 is looking. Very disappointed with their visuals
I thibk the game looks better than d2r. To each is own
@@Dbrunski125 im not trying to throw shade or start an overdone flame war between d3 and d2 lol. Honestly just all the huge numbers and stuff flying in this little corridor as hes blitzing through there just gave me major d3 vibes. Its been ages so i could be way off base, just thought it was funny coincidence at the exact second you were saying it thats what i felt
@@d8l835 I respect the difference of opinion. Apologies if I came off as a dick. Been taking a lot of flak for just saying I mostly enjoy the game so far
Man the game will never be the same without the original team and developers.
I just had a mini panic attack. He was talking about the feel of D3 and D4 and when I looked over I saw what looked to be a spitting image of D3 and almost had a melt down. Until I realized IT WAS D3 then he switched to D4. Oh thank god lol
Lol I understand that part in my soul lol loved the lore hated the gameplay
If they screw up D4 as bad as D3 was originally then good riddance. They say fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me 😂. We all just want this to be a good game so bad 😤
@@andrespaz989 D4 feels like a good mix between D2 and D3 in my book. There's two things I disliked, the items are all the same size like in D3 and the boss fights were too easy. Other than that I didn't have any complaints so the game should be good as long as not too much stuff is changed from the last Closed Beta which I was invited to.
@@LilGamingYes have any opinions on tier 1 and tier2 difficulties?
@@Edwinstewart88 Haven't played T1, T2 was easy, T3 was rough at first but I got to it 10 levels early.
There seems to be a lot of screen clutter as you're fighting. I hope there's a way to turn that off. Also, let's see if this absolutely requires an internet connection like D3 did. If I can't play without an internet connection then I don't want to play.
1) The "spitting out of enemies" health globes/potions is a big turnoff for me. Not sure how much integrated they are with the game system (skills, buffs etc), but I would prefer something less "flashy" - It takes away from the darkness and grittiness. It feels like Sonic will jump in to collect coins >o<
2) No more inventory tetris - neither cold or hot on this one - probably less trips to town = more time out in the wild
3) The inventory and the item artwork is almost identical to D3 - not a big fun - it always felt a bit lifeless, like an afterthought - I would prefer for them to try something new - it's not like this was a major concept success in D3
4) Did I mention the health globes? >_<
5) The UI seems a bit....small? Not enough gravitas maybe? - can't really put my finger on it
6) Damage numbers are identical to D3 - not a fan - I guess you can just turn them off
7) I do like the environments and the overall atmosphere - at least from what we have seen so far
8) Skill tree looks decent - I think it will work
9) Character customization - I dig it - let people create and live their fantasies! - looks deep enough (but not too complicated to bog you down)
10) No health globes plz - it will hurt my moew-moew :(
Personally i dont like the big flashy 10 million animations which puts out pallet of bright color. Imo, looks like repainted D3 geometry and architecture. Agree with the globes. I bet many of D3's sounds are still front and center. I still can't bring myself to finish D3 but still play modded d2 religiously.
Honestly the game just looks way too simple. 😕
Both in terms of difficulty and how limited (or absent) the character building choices are. I swear Blizzard must think their players are completely braindead and should not get any freedom of choice that might influence how strong their characters become.
The skill tree is a joke. Pause at 7:55. That's the skill tree structure. You select Fireball, okay. See how the path branches between two (yes two) different abilities on your Fireball? Can't allow players an intricate skill tree with many options, branching paths and countless different ways to take. How they go with something as dumbed down as this, for the biggest ARPG IP in the world, given a *limitless* budget in the year 2022 (or 2023), is completely beyond me. I'm speechless.
If this is what it is, people will be bored by this game within half a year.
And all of this is on top of the Diablo Immortal elephant in the room. If this is all it is, there is no way in hell I want to give Blizzard my money.
Why is no content creator acknowledging:
Damage numbers: still exponential like D3. Found in broll footage: 6 damage on level 1, 3k damage on lvl 25 (with outlier crits around 20k!!)
Art style: it’s a D3 reskin (in the right direction but still, this cartoon style doesn’t fit Diablo IMHO)
If they restrict trade im not playing tbh. I think trade being fully open is one of the things that helped create community in d2. You can't necessarily get all the loot you want on your own. If you want players to interact with each other, then you have to install mechanics that make players interact with each other.
Totally agree. I am afraid Blizzard is focusing too much on self sufficiency and the game will be a single player experience and friends may as well be NPCs.
but hey the point here is to sell you another diablo that doesn't come close to d2
@@Blob_Marley i dont play singleplayer games, they can mask it as multiplayer , still not gonna play it.
Trade is good if platforms like d2jsp didn't exist. As it is of now l prefer no trade as wealth accumulated from d2jsp go over to a brand new game in terms of purchase power. And ladders feel bad since not every one is on the same wealth lvl.
@@666TheMetalmaniac666 wealth accumlated anywhere goes into a new game , jsp or not also no trading makes the game less fun . who cares if not everyone on the same wealth level like if you would solve that problem with no trade huh ? ... fcking mental, do you think a lot when you leave a comment like that btw?
For the love of god please remove that glowing effect from dropped legendaries. I absolutely hate it!
To me when a legendary drops in D2 your brain can’t really see it at first and for a millisec you kind of have to take a closer look. Is it golden text? IT IS! Oh shit! Is it a “swirling crystal”? Ah fuck it’s yellow xD
A couple of hundreds of runs later* OMFG it is golden text this time!!!
That’s so much more fun than a completely obvious legendary drop with a ridiculous flashy sound to it.
There is some conflicting information here. In Rhykkers video he said that legendary essences or whatever they're called are NOT tradeable, but that trading will be based heavily on trading great Rare Items that you can then imbue with the Legendary affix that you already have.
Also the way the developers said it in the last interview I saw, it is not that it's more work to respec than to start a new char, but just that it won't be possible to respec an endgame build daily because the cost is higher. So it's more like, if you want to respec a high level char, you have to expect that you will play that build for at least a couple of days -> week, before you can respec again. Obviously if you have a char and farm for 4 weeks endgame content, you should have enough resources to respec that char multiple times, they just wanted to stop the D3 version of "i'm doing bounties, click, doing rifts, click, doing GR150, click, going for set-dungeons challenge, click" and play 4 different builds on 1 char in the same hour.
Rhyker is right on the affix trading. And also you’re correct on the gold scaling to respec. It won’t be a flip flop late game. Debrunski stealing content and not doing it well.
If I wanted to play WOW I would renew my subscription. I would not pay for a D4 game that is a carbon copy of WOW. WTF happened Blizzard. Did your developers have a rager and forget what game they were building???
honestly this looks like diablo 3 PART 2....which in reality is the biggest scariest fail based nightmare in the works lurking
You’ve never played the games and it shows💀
Completely different than d3. This one is open world with multiplayer instances for big boss fights
How?
@@nathanielmorben5061 nathan it doesnt matter what shows and what doesn't... bottom scary line : diablo 3 part 2 rather than the NEXT DIABLO 2 BABY BABY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU NOW?
@@fishermancounty777 your on crack
imo diablo4 has already failed before it began. same boring, lame seasonal play. Again making the same DRASTIC mistake diablo3 did with a limited beta. If you think about what the 8 month long diablo3 beta was lvl 1-13 only able to do story upto the skeleton king all for the sake of not spoiling a story written by an amateur writing at middle school level. They could have spent 8 months fixing the game that we ended up hating instead they restricted our play area to save the story and focused more on the stupid auction house then spent a year trying to fix a game which is still broken to this very day since the major flaw with the game is how your weapon is the singular most important thing in the game. And to fix this in the modern game its oh yea lets just boost the damage by THOUSANDS so you do TRILLIONS of damage to make up for having such a garbage foundation.
I missing diablo1 where i gave a crap about my character. My character had a name, had history. I wasnt having to delete my character every 3 months. The fact they are taking renown reputation grind and putting it into their 3 month seasonal reset system is also disgusting. Rep grinding and renown in wow is hot garbage and they are adding it to diablo4.
I do think the game looks great. While like you said the gameplay seems slower right now thats because of how stupid it got in diablo3. I hated the way diablo3 made you need to play a speedy twitchy gross feeling build. Also the fact that its already pay to win if winning is leveling faster season pass gives you an exp boost. The fact that diablo immortal showed them they have a bunch of whales they can try to milk so they made a $250 collectors edition? buy a box full of physical goods with none of the digital goods then have to buy the digital goods separate... im over blizz. I was on the fence with this game with how bad shadowlands was for a wow expansion. then diablo immortal dropped and that shattered any remaining hope I had for this company.
Add to that here we are all these years later and diablo3 still hasnt undone nerfs that were made to spite the players. Traps were so cool when the game launched they would one shot everything. (they still do on console since console build was based off the launch build of diablo3) but the devs decided to give the finger to the fans like the game was so hard people would just kite monsters into the traps to 1 shot them..... so they made traps uselss. traps cant even 1 shot monsters on normal. someone made a joke video about how to farm gold in diablo3. load into act3 open the lore chest in town loot the 100g then exit and restart. blizzard seriously thought this was an issue and nerfed those chests....... wtf
Yeah you cant trade legendarys im out
I´m a big fan of the first and second diablo. I played Median XL a ton and played trough 90h of D3 but i have to say that D2/Median Xl were the most fun i had.
This D4 looks, to my eye´s, absolutely boring. The animations look like D Immortal. The tree seems uninspireing. The whole concept looks nothing more then Okay to me.
I hope the story will be at least amazing to justify that people spend money on this.
Personaly i won´t buy it, at least not for the asked price.
I really hope i´m wrong but I usually am not.
The title should be "restricted review"
Blizzard has completely lost me as a player. This game will just be a bunch of currencies that depreciate in value as you level up and can be bought with real world money. I bet unlocking everything costs $100,000 like their last Diablo game.
It sounds like a slowed down version of D3 to me. D4 needs to be forward progression from D3. They cracked open D2r, if they want to do more for that game; its software, no ones stopping them, and they should. Its never too late.
I hope everyone takes all these beta reviews with a huge grain of salt. We heard great things about Diablo 3 beta and we know how that turned out. I'm not saying that you're a shill or anything, but there's a lot of optimism for a game that's a slightly improved Diablo 3 with a cash shop. Maybe that's just the state of gaming now, that even average titles are a big deal because so much crap comes out. What I know for sure is that Blizzard hasn't done a lot of good in such a long time, especially if you factor in that D2R wasn't even done by them, and it's hard to imagine them finding their way all of a sudden.
magic items are essentially useless. it’s nice we can trade rare items because they can be really useful legendary bases for aspects. i read during end game beta you could trade legendary aspects. i thought that was a really nice compromise. i really hope they will bring that back if trading aspects is really gone now
I read somewhere that magic items will have the highest range on affix rolls. If that is true, they might actually have their own little niche (similar to D2, where blues could be very desireable for certain things). No idea if that is true, though.
@@FzNd in d2 they had a niche for magic find, but i think there is no such thing in d4
You said you're not a fan of the trading as it is in the game right now, Voice your opinion TO BLIZZARD about this. They don't listen to the community but they do listen to the streamers. It's up to the streamers to fix D4.
You know what I loved? Diablo 2's version of faceless Tyrael. The voice acting of the Archangel was bang on. I don't know why they had to ruin a good thing in D3.
because blizzard a rtards :D and they make crap games
Is llama the only one of you free marketers that hasn't jumped on the mindless shill wagon? I notice that he's mysteriously absent when every other streamer mindlessly praises D4 (while saying very little about it) all at the same time. This looks like a crappy MMO Diablo 3 and no amount of shilling convinces me otherwise.
*Quick note. You can't trade extracted Legendary affixes at the moment. Would be a cool compromise though for the trading community if you could though. The intention here is you can still salvage a really rare legendary quality even if it drops for a different character. Hope you enjoyed the review and are as excited for D4 as I am !!!*
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wow that’s weird, from what i read about the end game beta you could trade extracted legendary affixes. that’s a disappointing change if true
I think this is good. To be honest it makes high stat GG rares more valuable. Becuase now you can take that GG rare and slam a legendary aspect from a garbage roll legendary you smashed
Not being able to respec will just lead to metas. Asmongold said this and I agree. Everyone is just going to follow the meta cause its a big time sink to restart a new character
You can respec anytime you want .. gold is easy to accumulate.. asmon has no idea what he’s talking about
IF it would be in spirit of D2 (or D2R) you would roam the open world forever while dealing with harder mobs and finding no healing pots or shrines. Would feel like a survival mode experience with a cool char.
That wouldn't be the spirit of D2, though lol That is nothing like D2 and more like V Rising. Don't get me wrong, V Rising is a fun, cool game for what it is, but it is not a Diablo game.
A true spirit of D2 would be having 4 inventory space and having to go back to town every 2 seconds to sell or stop everything you're doing to play Tetris in your bag menu.
@@justincampbell3132 Yeah I hate that with D2, I know people are licking D2's ass but let's be honest it have a lot of flaws with todays standard. Like no real end-game, sparse stash room, need for half inventory filled with potions and stupid charms. All that could have their own smaller belt or stash slot and most likely would in modern games. The stop motion of spells and such is not really that great either considering the flow Diablo 3 got with the rifts which was a nice thing in it's own way. And even though D2 have a lot of great and iconic sounds that are top notch a lot of the sounds are also crappy and makes no sense to what is happening on screen. Spells and skills GFX for some characters are a bit underwheling as well even if I do enjoy the less glow and sparks and so on that fly in overload in D3 even from arrows and melee heroes. The bigger skills still need to have some meat to them and they don't always in D2 which makes your pretty high leveled character still feel like a level 1. So a nicer progression of getting stronger and looking more badass with more and more great looking skills is a must to engage me these days. More blood, teeth and sweat flying from enemies when hit and less sparks and japanese inspired anime effects in my opinion.
@@justincampbell3132 that too ))
lets be honest here guys on diablo 3 they droped the ball .. and POE too the crown .. if D4 wants to compete with POE they had better make a stunning game right out of the gate or there gonna fail... POE has an awsome amount of content for a free game and its fun to play ... so if blizz are gonna charge like 60 bucks for d4 it better be dam good
as long as I don't need to kill diablo 200 times to try and get a rare drop or rune then it's fine. D3 had loot too easily, but D2 was ridiculous with some items being so rare they are next to impossible to get for anyone who is not completely committed. The runes needed for some "mandatory" items were ridiculous.
Diablo 2 blew up and continued to be relevant for decades because of the free market. Not solely, but in large part. If they really want to make a game for the "diablo fan base" and not the new fanbase they created with diablo 3, they should just stop trying to control the market.
On the topic of trading, I remember an early discussion where it was mentioned that magics and rares to be valuable. So, being able to trade affixes makes sense. You can "build" a really good rare out of them. This takes in account a crafting discussion in the quartlilies as well. I like this. I hate in d3 that magic and rares suck after leveling. I like in D2R farming bases and having useful magic and rare items that you can use, even after completing all the acts and are farming higher content. You can do ubers and clone with these. You only need "end game gear" if you want to farm faster, which really means "farming p8 efficiently". Just a thought.
I recall the same that the best items are going to be from a godly rolled rares and magics as a base, upgraded in quality, and having a legendary power imbued. Trading will likely revolve around trading good bases. Restricting trading ancients and beyond prevents people just making trading the best finished items and going from zero to hero without any effort. If this turns out to be true, it’ll make for healthy trading that requires understanding of what you want to make.
that's why I liked Release d3, yellows were really good and even blues could be good neck/rings particularly
Unlimited customization with little cost is a catastrophic design choice for a RPG. If I don’t have weight behind my character decisions I stop caring.
I was on the beta as well. Not at all interested in the game. Didn't even make it past level 20. Got bored of the usual grind and there's nothing compelling about the gameplay or content that would make me invest my time playing it.
Yeah…….. what makes d2 and d2r so special are runes, jewels, and charms. If they don’t have that I’m not paying or playing. The grind in d2 to finally see a ber drop or Jah rune or a 3/20/20 small charm is what makes d2 so much better. And the skill tree. But mostly the items.
I really hated the drop on level unique with cringy effects instead of d2 specific level uniques with awesome stats as anchor point for your build. Really missed that, the rush you get from dropping an anchor point is kinda gone now.
I'm not buying or playing if trading is restricted. Maybe if it has hardcore permadeath open world pvp/pk zones i would play
This time i will definitely wait and observe the game for at least a month after it is released before i purchase it. Won't make the same mistake as i did with D3 ten years ago. I have been playing D2 (now D2R) for 20 years and if D4 turns out like D3 then it is D2 forever for me.
Smart decision. People must stop giving money for half baked products.
highly doubt the game will be good or have anywhere near the replicability as Diablo 2 had.
Guarantee they will oversimplify the game & add in a dumb pay store for people to get skins or something else
Blizzard can't make good games anymore & they don't hire staff based on merit, they hire based on diversity.
Hey, I remember watching you 2018, early 2019 when I living in a shelter and playing d2 plugY on a laptop, nice to see that your channel has grown!
Unfortunately I accidentally formatted the USB drive where I had my singleplayer self-found characters and lost my Necro with 325% infinity merc, enigma etc.
I've been on the D4 closed beta but I havn't been playing much lately because of the new WoW expansion and Starcraft.
I think D4 needs alot of more dev time though as it is, the gameplay and content is kinda lacking to my tastes.
Wish you all the best!
when D3 had a level restriction for Beta , that's because they have done nothing for end game then . If they have this restriction again for D4 ... then that would mean they don't have any good end game
Totally agree with you on respeccing your character and allowing your class to do everything. That's one thing I didn't like about Diablo 3. I liked having a dedicated character for a build in D2, like two Druids one for Werewolf the other for Wind. It makes the characters feel like they have more of an identity as opposed to it being a class that you can put different armor sets on and then respec easily to play another build.
Blizz has moved further and further into convenience. A respec in WoW takes ten seconds and is free. This always comes at the expense of an identity.
I disagree. Allows us to experiment with builds instead of starting over and having to grind it out all over again just to try something different.
@@mr.m42 You must learn.
@@PistokoTheComeBack it leads to people just making the same cookie cutter builds. Look at everyone using the same exact skills with the same exact rune words in Diablo 2. Wow so much creativity and learning going on there. So great.
All that does is wasting your time, requiring to build up characters.
When loot drops will it be like D2 and ANYONE can grab it or D3 where its my char only loot? Haven't heard anyone talk on that point?
On progression and loot/gear: Good. class/build viability throughout the game is so important. I hated, and still hate trying to find 5/6 1-in-a-billion items in hopes that you can SOMEDAY MAYBE play a build.
Love the chase, hate the abysmal play without god tier items.
One thing I learned from playing a awesome diablo 2 mod that few people know of (Eastern Sun) is that having TONS of different items constantly dropping that are all useful in different ways creates a Addictive and fun as well as rewarding feel. Its not quite there in the base game. I can't do wow because all you do after you max lvl is case items from dungeons and raids to get a tiny upgrade in stats... if players do not feel rewarded they won't play.
bro, its a 6 button game again... ITS BAD. All you need to know is u only have 6 skills, after that the rest doesnt matter....