Hands-On with Delidded AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU
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AMD just formally announced its 4 new CPUs for Zen 4, their prices, and their release date. Now, we're looking at a delidded Ryzen 7000 CPU to learn more about the very unique IHS (Integrated Heat Spreader) design with the "spider leg" shape. In this quick video, we'll talk about why AMD made these design decisions, how CPUs are soldered, why gold is used, and more.
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00:00 - Ryzen 7950X CPU
01:52 - CPU IHS Overview
03:25 - Introducing a New Problem
04:00 - Benefits
04:40 - Talking About the Inside
05:30 - Explaining the Gold Plating
07:15 - Die Layout
07:37 - Challenges for Delidding & Adhesive
09:00 - Conclusion
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This video is one of the reasons why I love your content.
THANK YOU TECH DADDY ❤❤❤
Interesting! I'm eager to see how the mobo socket looks. Curious of pin height and construction. Thanks for sharing!
I'm proud of you & your group, Steve. Phenomenal coverage. It's easy to see the detail & effort you're putting into these video/tutorials. 🇺🇸 😎👍☕
Just curious if you've discussed with DeBauer about the reason why no 3D cache on even the highest 7950 CPU??? :s
These recent AMD announcements got me a crazy deal on a Ryzen 9 5900x, which was only around $320 off of Amazon.
I know its not good to go AM4 for upgradability reasons, but considering I'm going from a Ryzen 7 1700 which I've had for quite a while now, and the fact that the new lineup is gonna be much more expensive on launch, I feel like it was a good choice. The 5900x will hopefully last me a good 5-10 years or so.
Edit: Ok so, that CPU never arrived. I asked for a replacement from the seller, that one also never arrived. The seller is now offering me a refund that I really hope will come through.
Its been two full weeks, I'm just gonna buy the CPU at full price from a reputable seller. Its gonna cost me almost $400, but I just wanna upgrade my system at this point. I couldn't care less that I'm paying that much for this CPU now that I've had to wait this long.
Honestly though, this is was a pretty good learning opportunity for me. Biggest thing to take away from this is even if the price is the lowest, always fully inspect the reseller before you buy to make sure that they can be trusted, especially if its for such an expensive product.
Nothing wrong with that! Enjoy your huge performance uplift!
holy shit dude, that was a steal.
Wow! That's an insane price. Great find. Even with the new stuff, no reason to feel any buyer's remorse with that one.
5900x is definitely worth it if you have the components imo i.e ddr4, Buy in cost for new platform is alot.
Personally those funds are going into the 4080ti bucket for my 1080ti or might even wait another gen lol it's been doing so well
What's funny is 5 years ago we had Ryzen 1 which it and 7700k that was available both would bottleneck current games. Where 1080ti can still drive most games at 1440p 144hz. I ended up upgrading to a 5800x early on and performance lift was huge. So who knows what future holds for CPU bottlenecks in 5-10 years right now but 5900x is a good bet honestly with it's high cache
Yeah unless they launch Windows 12 with no support for Ryzen 5000 in 2026, you'll be good. An even then, you'll be missing little. Here 320 is the price of a 5700X :'( sometimes I hate Italy so much
I’ve had the same Noctua cooler since AMD Bulldozer. They gave me a free adaptor to work on AM4. They fact that it will continue to work on AM5 is nuts.
I still have my OG D14 cooler from my Phenom 1. I had a unlocked x3 chip back then, saved money on the CPU and spent it on the cooler.
They have sent me AM4 and a newer Intel mount too.
Yeah my D14 is from my q9550 :D
I have a Scythe Zipang cooler from 2008 used on my AMD Phenom 4 and it too fits AM4, so it would probably fit AM5.
Have been rocking my corsiar h100i aio since my 8320 days, surprisingly it has held up great and performs just as good as the day i got it.
@Defective Degenerate I have the same water cooling loop since 2010, first on 3xxx Intel CPUs then some 3xxx Ryzen and right now its on a 5800X3D.
The cooler is a still working good and everything else, I replaced the pump so far because of noise. There are brackets for this Aquacomputer cooler for almost any socket so far.
Tech Jesus wields Tech Holy Grail
Bit of a stretch innit? Lol
@@MrReadySetDance how many times are you going to cry under GN videos? Maybe go somewhere else lmao
@@user-mu3vz3hd9m plus nobody was crying 😂
+5 Holy Avenger
@@MrReadySetDance definitely not you right lmao
Edit: anyone curious check my recent comments
I love AMD's new Integrated Heat Spider.
I'm sure it's going to become very iconic.
YMMV, I would never want one near my owl hive.
It comes with a spider!?
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X with AMD Integrated Heat Spider Technology
@@Lishtenbird owls are more accepting if you draw two eyes onto the IHS that look slightly angry with a bit of intrigue
@@Lishtenbird +1
Amd: announces new processor
Steve: You guys wanna see what's inside?
There's an "Intel inside" joke there somewhere.
he is acting like a drug dealer....hey, have noticed you are interested in this new stuff, want to take a quick look inside ( standing in a dark corner with a trench coat...)
ye ye u can see inside this time, next time you gotta pay tho
@@georgwarhead2801 Lmao why am I now imagining Steve rocking up in a black van to a street corner at midnight, asking "pssst hey kids, wanna buy some cpus?"
The backwards compatible cooling was such a great QOL feature when they announced it. It seems so little but that saves me a couple hundred dollars right there.
Technically it's forwards compatible right? Because you are using a cooler meant for the old design on the new one not a new one on an old one.
@@TLM-Nathan I figure since the cooler is dependent upon the socket for compatibility, the socket supporting it means it is backwards compatible.
Except they don't include coolers anymore
While dimensions are identical with AM4, you need to get mounting upgrade kit if your cooler uses a custom backplate. On AM5 the socket frame is screwed to backplate through PCB, you can't switch to custom backplate. And often mounting screws are different too so standard AM5 backplate is incompatible.
Coolers using standard AM4 backplate are compatible with AM5.
@@TLM-Nathan In this situation it would be both, wouldn't it?
Hands down the best coverage, I’m glad GN made the trip, and I hope other journalists follow in your steps to get behind the scenes of these in person events in a return to the normal pre Covid days.
@The Night dude Covid killed large events in every industry for a good year plus. That was my point.
I love the ihs and smd design! Can’t wait to see all the benchmarks from you guys and othe techtubers over the next month
Ah, so they aren't reservoirs for keeping your extra thermal paste. Well, at least not intentionally.
Hahahaha
You know GN has great coverage when a short video is still 10 mins.
And it's a good 10 minutes, not repeating or over-doing stuff like some UA-camrs who desperately get over 10 minutes by a second to get the ad money.
thank you for displaying details like not getting paid or you qualification in a subject. you are the go to for un biased reviews anyway, but this is a great addition !
Killing it with the quality of your content. Rock on!
It's what I've been waiting for! Planning to use LM in the future and all those exposed SMD elements seem thirsty for it
Also can see overclocking gimmick potential that might prove popular, pumping thermal paste under IHS for better overall conductivity, wouldn't hurt I think
you can just give them some protective coats tho right?
@@tatooine_dream nail polish is quick and easy. You should be costing the substrate even if it didn't have SMD because the liquid metal can seep into the vias.
@@tatooine_dream Depends what you plan to do, I'll probably pump GD900 under the lid for fun, no intent of delidding soldered CPU, but aircooler to IHS will have LM, and foam barrier... can't find aanything locally under 2mm here tho
I wasn't expecting to see delidded so fast, but super excited to see what this 7000 series does as far as performance does. But even more exciting DerBaur is making a delid tool thats amazing because that process terrifies me lol.
So exciting! Enjoy the rest of the trip!
Fantastic content as usual Steve, cheers from Scotland!
The fact GN pays for all is travel is huge for us. Keeps big companies from being able to influence reviews
Since it is already that thick, AMD could just make a special version for liquid cooling so you could cool IHS directly with water.
THAT would be a neat solution
I like it when GN content comes out at lunch time.
Great video, as always. It's time for me to upgrade to a new computer and this channel is one of the most useful sources of information on youtube to catch up with the current tech.
7000 hype!
I cant wait for dell to make the 7xxx series as hot as the FX series :D
FX wasn't that bad actually if you didn't have a 9000 series chip.
I kind of love how the IHS looks. I'd also be somewhat terrified to try and use something conductive like Conductonaut with it.
Thermal grizzly also has a product that's a paint to insulate the SMD's from LM
thats why we use silicone modified conformal coating
2 gn videos in a day!!
It must be a good day today
Solid tech journalism as always.
Thanks, Steve!
"Going to be a short video"
sees 10 minutes
hehe classic GN. Love the review
I just got myself an i5 12400 so im not looking to upgrade for a while, but its still really cool to look at this stuff! Thank you GN
Same. I got a 5900X and 6900XT. I'm good for the foreseeable future. Def won't consider upgrading until Zen 5 and even then I'll have to really think about it.
I'm still on my 9700K and at first I wanted to upgrade, but I realised it wasn't needed after finding out how much work can be offloaded to the GPU like rendering and video editing.
this is very cool to see so quickly after launch!
Didn't expect a video that short
I'm gonna wait until 8000 since I really like my 5700x right now. But I'm definitely going to try and not worry about thermal paste between the feet. Paste in those spaces probably won't matter at all and you won't even see it with a cooler attached.
Will these CPUs benefit from offset kits again then I assume? And is the offset the same orientation as previous generations with the mounting direction?
Great question! The benefit previously was pretty noticeable with some coolers. It will likely help again. As for direction, won't be sure until we get a motherboard!
yeah probably
@@GamersNexus thanks for letting me know. Yeah I have a older supremacy evo I use the offset kit with on my 5000 series since cooler was originally only got Ryzen 1000. I'd love to use same hardware again for AM5
Yoooooooo, Let’s gooooo. Can’t wait for all the new CPU content.
This was so freakin educational. Love it! I feel like my brain was de-lided. LOL. Respect bro, you paid for your own room? Damn them uncooperative sponsors! Long live AMD!
I assume with these exposed SMDs and seemingly a gap between the IHS and substrate, using a non-conductive thermal compound would now be mandatory, right?
(I know, pretty much every solution on the market should already be non-conductive)
Basically. Or you'd need to coat the SMDs.
@@GamersNexus time to bust out the nail polish!
@@ionstorm66 I mean, all the good stuff (other than liquid metal) isn't conductive anyways
@@KPalmTheWise you just know some idiot is going to liquid metal one without thinking
@@KPalmTheWise Arctic silver thermal paste does have some silver in it but they say it is not conductive but might be capacitive, so they warn not to spread it on any open components or trace paths.
Thanks Steve
Finally an upgrade to my i5-9600k. Just started uploading some action camera footage and my render times are brutal. Can't wait for this!
Nice! Looking forward to getting myself on of these.
I wonder how over excessive thermal paste might affect these, would getting it on the open components in the indents make it worse or better? I feel like I want a removeable frame for the IHS while applying paste..
Wouldn't affect much, but you'd need to be careful of electrically conductive paste.
Ask The Verge
@@GamersNexus Steve and Roman up a tree....
since i am using carbonout im not worryd about it
@@malachaicarter4338 Probably some super cheap garbage that is, because money.
There is a big electrical benefit for having the caps on the same side of the substrate as the ICs. The effectiveness of the power supply bypass capacitors is limited by the amount of inductance between the capacitor and the chip. The via that goes from top to bottom is the biggest portion of this inductance, so moving from bottom to top comes with a huge benefit.
Great content, as usual. Thank you Steve!
Can I just say THANK YOU AMD for putting a nice, big, obvious triangle on the CPU? No idea what the socket is going to have … but these things have gotten harder and harder to see, which means it's harder and harder to explain to a noob what to look for.
Intel is put a very obvious triangle on the corner for a very long time
It looks exactly like Intel's triangle so idk what you're on about
there are also indents on the side of the substrate so you can only put it in the correct way
@@sneedsneed460 they'be been doing them smaller and smaller as the years go by, look at a 12900k and the triangle is tiny
to make matters worse, they add 3 dots the same size as the triangle on the other 3 corners, so you really have to look hard at it
these AM5 chips just have the 1 great big triangle on the corner and that's it
As someone who worked assembling computers for years, haven't seen big triangles for a while. Even with my glasses on I had trouble spotting Intel's triangle from the dot things.
will be interesting to see the pressure map for this thing. I suspect that ILM with just 2 contact points will not be great.
Thank you for teaching me computer science for free I truly appreciate the way in which you conduct business and the causes you support that I get to support vicariously. Stay awesome Tech Jesus.
Moving from 3900X to a 7950X, very excited. I do mostly video production work and Adobe is finally taking advantage of multi CPU rendering. Plus can’t wait to go all out on DDR5
This guy is such a hard worker man makes me question what I'm doing with my life
just remember, you will NEVER hear anyone say this on their death bed "oh wow...man I wish I could have spent more time at work...."
@@psycronizer yeah but I'm here eating a peanut butter sandwich for breakfast
@@psycronizer Lol I always say the same. Life is not a rehearsal, ensure you're happy with what you're doing and you'll have no regrets.
@@OrganicStuff1 As an occasional thing that's fine but good diet is important your body is the life support system for your brain. You are your brain and the memories it contains 😉
@@psycronizer Unless they're really passionate about it like Steve
We know from the past that the infinity fabric will basically make dual chiplets seamless when communicating and depending on each other. However having everything on one chiplet will have its benefit and that's why I'm getting a 7700X unless they release a 7800X (which they already registered the name of). I am not a content creator and I do not need 12 or more cores. 8 cores are MORE than enough for gamers.
Dual CCD chips effectively double your memory bandwidth though, can be useful in certain situations. Historically dual CCD are just a little more difficult to OC
Since AMD will be doing the 3D V-cache, I believe that the 7800x will be in this version (7800x3d), but the 7700x for gaming is the best one by far. The same TDP of the Ryzen 5 but with 8/16 and better clock speed.
Thank you for everything you do!
Learnt a lot of new things today thanks to you and AMD
Putting liquid metal on this is gonna get my adrenaline pumping
DON'T MISS! haha, great point. Conductive interfaces will definitely be riskier on this without a conformal or similar coating.
Be careful with those SMD's so close!😬
@@GamersNexus Someone will have a 3d printable guard for this kind of thing soon I'm sure.
@@TheAtomicSpoon Maybe not a great idea to have a plastic guard if these things run HOT
I think the extra Z height is for accommodation of 3D-V Cache.
Neat to see. Great video!
The new chips looks so nice - no pins and the IHS' design is awesome, showing the capacitors on the sides. It's a shame it won't be visible under the cooler.
The gold cpu cores look so cool. I love it.
I think I'm over delidding, we'll see what the performance benefits are but, this one looks really hard, it's not like 3rd to 8th gen Intel where it wasn't soldered, for soldered, I'm not sure the performance benefit is worth the risk.
5-8 gen Intel
And I believe the difference for 12gen Intel is ~2°C so unless AMD has a worse solder connection which I doubt, delidding won't be worth it.
Exactly. Certainly not worth possibly destroying an expensive part. Reminds me of people destroying AMD Durons back in the day.
Yeah, non soldered CPUS are pretty straight forward but this is way more complex. I more than likely won't try it since a 7950X costs almost 3 times what my 4790K did and I know I won't see a 15C drop like I did with Devil's Canyon.
The difference is apparently about 20C, which brings the temp down from ~90C at high load to ~70C
@@ArtificialDjDAGX that's if you do direct die cooling, the IHS is the problem.
Although delidding might still be worthwhile considering the thermal design of Ryzen 7000.
I wonder what challenges the open areas around the SMDs will create for XOC. Also if there may be some small extra benefit to down draft air flow around the processor did to these gaps.
As tight as it already is, it has me worried for multiple generation support though.
One nice thing about the 8 leg IHS design is that it has contact ledges all around the perimeter to allow for better flatness if a thermal grizzly type mounting flange is used.
I've not actually seen a delidded CPU before, but now i'm curious why need to delid it at all (when Steve mentioned the tool being developed by Der Bauer)?
some add liquid metal between the cpu die itself and the IHS to improve heat transfer, some use cpu´s even withour the IHS and mount the cooler directly to the cpu die ( all of this is just used for extreme high overclocking
Cooling the die directly without the IHS can save a few degrees but that's mainly for people who do crazy overclocking. If the leaks are true then these CPUs will be plenty fast out of the box. The SMDs on top adds another level of risk with delidding and the risk outweighs the reward for the vast vast majority of us.
@@georgwarhead2801 wouldn't like to use liquid metal on this with those exposed smds under the IHS
Very few people will do it especially for this CPU(Used to be a huge benefit to performance on Intel), but we're all nerdy and watching these videos anyway because that's what we do.
Now I'm struggling whether I should build with a 5800x or wait for a 7600x.....5800x is on sale on Amazon
What do you need it to do? Buy the thing that does that and will at least last you for a year or two.
Don’t get the 5800x wait a bit and get the 5800x3d when it price drops
Liking the new set design ;) hehe
The IHS looks like it requires a lot more machining than previous generations.
It's probably mostly, or entirely, stamped.
2:24 i very much like how this layout is done. Should be very easy to make a custom direct to chip cooler. Neat stuff GN.
One thing i never understood regarding these modern units (with old ones it was understandable) is why aren't the SMDs built in the actual CPU. I know this is possible, this is not common, but done by some of the laboratory equipment manufacturers with direct to board calibration (laser etc). It would result in an extremely compact package. I assume one reason is that users might over tighten the chip in place and thus affect how it works, but... it's kind of a slim issue. The board itself could be made thicker to accommodate. In terms of board design, these days, the sky is the limit.
Recently i've seen multi layer boards with gaps in the layers to allow for controlled expansion due to heat so that the traces always remain exactly as they were designed on paper.
simply because die space is way to expensive to do it and in the case of cpu´s, there is no benefit for doing it. they are already outsourcing everything that dont need to be on a expensive note to a more cheap one, adding the smd´s even just to the 6nm IO die would just be contra productive for reducing production cost
@@georgwarhead2801 Die, yes, but not the board. You can directly put the SMDs into the board itself as part of the lamination process. China's already doing it for mid-range consumers. I find it hard to believe that mega-corporations of the rank and file of AMD/Intel, the lot aren't doing it.
@@aserta and what would be the benefit for them to do it, i dont think integrating them would make them cheaper to produce or have any other benefit for them
Those coasters are indeed very high quality, I even take my favorite one with me when I travel.
Proper journalism. Keep going Steve, keep going.
I wonder how this will stack up against raptor lake in terms of content creation.
Vertically i would imagine
content creation is intel territory, they uplifted zen4 by ~20% ( i think it was 20% or something like that, they showed the uplift in one of there slides ) in adobe but intel will still have the lead
Seems much better than intel's toothpaste™ thermal solution. I've always found it kind of insane you could see 20-30c temp drops from liquid metal on the kaby lake series chips. It was just a horrible thermal design.
Thanks for this well made and informative video.
I've had thermal paste end up on SMD's and I've had small amounts spill over into the socket. Unless the paste is Arctic Silver 5 which not many people use anymore, the CPU will be fine. Also, when I've delidded lga2066 Skylake-X processors, there has always been a bit of thermal paste on the SMD's that are under the IHS.
There is a pretty heated discussion on reddit about the prices for the 7000 prices vs the 12th gen parts. I can't help but agree that I think the prices should be 100 dollars cheaper.
I don't think we can really say that without benchmarks
100 dollars cheaper is probably unreasonable, $50 would absolutely be doable though
@Husha563 yeah, like derbaur said that intel's efficient cores are useless, it's the pcores that are the true core of the cpu.
The 7600X almost certainly doesn’t beat the 12600K in multicore, so it really should be $199.
@@reinhardtwilhelm5415 you aren't buying an -600 class cpu for multicore now are you? You are buying it for cheap gaming. And 7600x most assuredly beats the 12600 by 10-15% in games.
I suspect that the IHS is going to be a bitch to clean once there's a significant amount of thermal paste on it. Thermal paste loves to squidge into small spaces and stay there, and cleaning between each leg on the "octopus" IHS would be a real pain.
stop using paste,... problem solved... ;)
@@user-vs9kv4pd1i Do you know any thermal pads have any metal in it? Thermally conductive and electrically conductive are two different things btw.
@@sniekerd What would you recommend instead?
@@DaveGamesVT I kinda love butter,... not sure why but the smell of it on my ihs is a thing to behold... ;)
What do you think the potential is for more cores on AM5 in the future? It sure doesn't look like there's room for any more chiplets on there. Perhaps if they increased the number of cores per chiplet...?
I'm excited about AM5 due to my Noctua NH-C14 cooler for AM4. It's huge but shouldn't have any problems pushing a 7950 to over 6Ghz if the chip can handle the thermals.
With those announcement, I can finally upgrade to 5900x with a reasonable price from a 3600
someone else here in the comments just got one for $320ish on amazon
What are you doing that makes 3600 feel too slow?
@@rzul if they have a good graphics card it’s not unlikely to be throttled by a 3600
"Has anyone seen are display 7950x? I swear it was right here." AMD employee probably.
I think AMD would know the difference between "are" and "our". Probably.
@@Anvilshock haha. Yeah. Probably.
Hey Steve, quick question about the GN coasters. Can they be used for hot beverages as well, such as coffee? I only ask as I noticed it recommends not to 'heat dry' them after washing, so I wasn't sure if heat period was an issue.
That chip on the new Aya Neo Next Pro 2. Dope!
delidding was already stressful and a challenge. AMD just made the dark souls of delids.
its gonna be so much easyer with this as so little contact surface for glue. You could probably do it by hand with a heat gun and a razor blade easy.
@@Six_Gorillion I shall wait for the easy tutorial on your channel ;)
As nice as these new 7000 series look, I'll be waiting for a price drop on the 5800X3D to replace my 5800X to upgrade my B550 board so I can wait for a presumably upcoming 7800X3D release and some of the inevitable 1st gen chipset and DDR5 bugs to get worked out in a year or two and start fresh with a completely new system. I'll reuse my 5800X in my second PC running a B450 which has a 3700X right now.
If you game at over 1080p this is a complete waste of time and money, even at 1080p I still wouldn't do it. Whatever makes you happy. Hopefully you dont stare at your PC everyday saying "Was it really worth it???...."
pointless
I'd agree with that. Such a marginal upgrade without even having AM5 and DDR5 support seems like a waste to me, and a bad way to go about doing things on a budget. I'd just keep that money and save up toward a 7000 series with an X670 board (the board remaining viable for about 5-6 years). If he primarily does gaming, that's a lot of money that could go toward a 40-series Nvidia or 7000-series Radeon GPU.
This is cool and all (bit of an under exaggeration) but I wanna know more about that spalted maple desk you're working on! lol thing looks gorgeous.
Hate LGA. Bought 4 Intel motherboards ever, 2 came with pin problems in the socket. Unfixable. Bought 4 AMD motherboards in my life. Never a single socket problema. Once dropped the processor and some pins bent. Bent them back straight with no issue. The processor worked flawlessly until the day I sold it. Worked flawlessly after by the buyers' opinion.
4th.
Also can you leak real performance, also I need to hear about 7950x3D
That's not how it works
@@afriendofafriend5766 noooooooo
i love the way the IHS looks
Any chance you guys are doing any fan meetups while in austin
As electronic engineer, I concern on the extra distance between those SMD Capacitor and the die itself. It is way longer than put those cap at the other side. But since it is a factory design. I think they know what they are doing
Looking good Steve, Thanks Steve.
That IHS actually looks dope
Cool, now lets see the benchmarks.
Delidding a soldered CPU is always painful for me to watch, so much can go wrong for virtually no gain. Still good video and glad to see this was already "pre-lidded". :)
I think the real news not being reported is the change in Steve's hair conditioner 😆
For what its worth, I'd like to explain what the SMD components are that surround the dies on the CPU.
From the b-roll, it appears that nearly all of the components are what's called feedthrough capacitors. These components are, essentially, a capacitor and inductor filter built into a single device. Capacitors and inductors are very commonly used on power lines for sensitive electronics. They create an LC filter that, when designed correctly of course, is very good at filtering out high frequency noise on the power and signal lines in circuits. I imagine that a lot of these are used to filter the power lines for the dies due to the extremely high frequency communication protocols that are used in CPUs. A noise free power line is a happy power line :)
I went big on Ryzen5000\RTX3000 so not planning on a new system anytime soon, but I'm still super excited to see what Ryzen7000 and Intel13th Gen brings to the table (and RTX4000 for that matter). Going to be an awesome end to the year with tons of good content. Cant wait to see 6GHz+ when you go for the XOC\LN2 runs. With fast DDR5 in the mix now - very interested to see what these things can do maxed out.
Big questions I've been thinking about. What if thermal paste gets into the 8 gaps? Why couldn't they make it a flat square?
They walked into into a corner by deciding early that the new socket to be compatible with AM4 coolers. With the sheer size of three dies and LGA pads covering the underside, it is just not feasible to cover the entire substrate with IHS. Intel was right to make the socket and heatsink holes larger but dropped the ball with the mounting mechanism.
he explained it realy well why they designed it that way and a comment from GN: "Wouldn't affect much, but you'd need to be careful of electrically conductive paste"
Even better, do some sort of thick 'balcony' to cover the little chips.
Add a magnetic to substrate to ihs to help hold in place during firing the solder
When is the review embargo ending? When are the full reviews for the 7000 line coming out?
THANKS Steve!
the rug really ties the cpu together
cant wait the GN lab test , woot, safe trip yáll
Wonder if the IHS will have the same issues as the Intel 1700 with bending and mounting pressure. Seems to be much thicker. Also curious how cooling looks with smaller dies that are even further from center than Zen3.
Perhaps another reason the SMD's are on top is because that makes it easier to derive a BGA version meant for laptops.
Thanks Steve!
im consired about the coldplate not touching these aswell can we get a detialed video on that btw? im heavly concerned its gonna have the same issue has the 12th gen LGA sockets