Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: Content Creation & Power Usage
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- The Ryzen 9 7950X3D promises to be the best of both worlds - offering content creation performance almost on par with the 7950X but gaming performance much higher. But does it achieve that? In this video Gordon goes over multiple content creation benchmarks and compares the 7950X3D's results to AMD's Ryzen 9 7950X as well as Intel's Core i9-13900K and 13900KS. He also covers the power usage presented by each chip under all core and single core workloads.
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00:00 - Intro
00:32 - How It Was Tested
01:46 - Cinebench R23 All-Core Results
03:31 - Cinebench R23 Single-Core Results
06:18 - V-Ray Results
07:25 - Blender Results
08:43 - Handbrake Results
10:30 - PugetBench Premiere Pro Results
12:50 - PugetBench Photoshop Results
13:38 - PugetBench Lightroom Classic Results
15:42 - All-Core Power Usage
19:47 - Single-Core Power Usage
21:54 - 7950X3D vs 7950X Thread Scaling
26:08 - 7950X3D vs 13900KS Thread Scaling
28:52 - Conclusion - Наука та технологія
Finally a good review! Others channels thinks we only want to play games with this CPU.
Awesome info, thank you. Just ordered the 7950x. V-ray is what I use daily, and I can use the eco mode if I want the power savings that the X3d has.
These videos are extremely underrated. Very good deep dive into this CPU. My opinion is that these high-end chips are not going to be fully utilized for a couple years.
If simulations (fluid and collision)tests added into this content it will complete the plate 👍👍
7950x owner here.. i am super satisfied with my chip.. whatever i throw at it.. just work.. Undervolt it or not.. and all comes to that... what you focus on with your pc.. Personaly i think no matter which one you take ( x3d variant or not ) you will be satisfied.. I think x3d chips will be worth buying maybe next gen or in 2 gens.. i really think in 2 gens amd will improve it drasticly and i think this gen they just little bit playing with it to see what they can do..Maybe i am wrong, idk.. I am a boomer so i like to see raw performance from the start to the end from all cores.. than to wonder which cores are active, which are not.. and software to dictate me which part of my cpu will be used and which one it will shut down.. but i must admit it's nice concept, glad we have that option with x3d lineups.. In the end of the day, look up the price and ask yourself if is worth it.. because both cpu's in games will give you more or less same thing...For me idc if i will get 150fps or 180fps .. in certain game.. both are super enjoyable.. and let's be honest, if you going for this chip.. you are 4090 or 7900xtx buyer.. so anyway you will have amazing experience.... i care how many things i can run in background while i am gaming... or working... or maybe both... ( lol ) and all to work great... that's the thing 😀
Great videos guys! Thanks for the Photoshop Bench Runs 👍
I wish you guys would also add DaVinci to your benchmarks.
Going into these reviews the thing I'm looking out for is inconsistent frame rates in games.
Leaning towards the 7800x3d right now because 1 CCD should result in no inconsistent frames across multiple CCD's.
With gaming on 7900x3d and 7950x3d AMD software has it setup to run on one CCD specifically for gaming performance
@@FrgottenFrshness It reminds me of the early days when I got my first Phenom CPU and was fiddling with the affinity in task manager.
Watching all these videos say "just update your bios firmware, chipset drivers, and xbox gamebar" made me wince...I just uninstalled and disabled that bit of windows bloat.
@@Starscreamious terrible and tedious idea to manually affinity tasks manually, game bar does a good job
@@itsLuisG It's likely the kind of thing I would do at first...then get tired of after a week or so.
It's a lot like SAM. You gain more performance than you lose so don't worry about it too much. Unless you're a professional esportser...then you can tinker.
I really want to know how RAM speed effect the 7950x3d. If you want to run 128GB of memory you have to run the memory very slow, on both AMD and Intel, and I'm very curious how they'd compete running at JDEC
The power efficiency is crazy, imagine how much a MONTH you would save simply by choosing the x3d version over the regular X version. Especially in Europe. The thing would pay for itself!
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It’s no more power efficient than the non 3d in professional applications. Just reduce clocks a little bit just like the 3d part and it’ll be about the same
@@earnistse4899 This is for gamers though, and with the 7950X3D you get better than 13900KS performance at about half the power consumption. At least when it's maxed out, which it won't always be, but over time the power savings should pay for the slight price difference.
@D S 13900ks with 7600 or 8000 memory would take the gaming crown. Plus it uses way more energy which has its benefits!
@@christianprice9832 "using way more energy" has zero benefits everywhere in PC gaming being more efficient is far more beneficial
congrats guys
Now were talking Grown Ass Man Reviews of the CPU. I'd like to see more adult oriented reviews like this for the people with the cash and credit to get such hardware and use if for work. Like Programming, 3D CAD/Python/3DStudio Max/UE5/UNITY rendering programs.
If you also consider that you don't work 100% cores 100% of the time and in single core and also in idle Intel consumes less, it means at the end of the month you might actually have an equal or lower electricity bill.
I'm working daily on my Threadripper 1950x with 2x2080Ti for the last 5 years. Threadripper is still decent in rendering bigger scenes which can't fit in the 22GB VRAM. However that 7950x would absolutely crush 1950x in every scenario. I'm looking mostly for the improvement in a single core performance as most programs I use benefit from that. I think that most 3D/2D graphic designers would find RTX 4090 and 7950x with 128GB DDR5 an ideal setup for their work. Certainly the best bang for their buck.
I wonder why nobody speaks about the audio world of content creation. Having a DAWBench run through every of this CPUs would let me choose which one I would have to buy... This is a huge hole into every review I see online nowadays...
Don't most audio engineers /producers use Apple anyways?
@@Mewzyc Absolutely not, maybe 15 years ago, nowadays the market is divided between the two platforms
@@claudiopalana not the producers I follow. In the EDM world. It looks still pretty Apple based on BTS videos the djs/producers show. You see alot of apple computers and sometimes Logic Pro.
I know deadmau5 uses Windows tho
@@Mewzyc In bigger studios I have seen or windows or a combo, with an Apple as a main machine and a Windows as a slave machine doing all the hard job (like processing VSTs and AD conversion). So in both cases I think it's useful to know how to build a powerful windows machine to be able to compose with the lowest delay possible while using a full virtual orchestra (in my use case)
I want to get this cpu and use it with a multi monitor set up. If I'm gaming on one screen and want monitoring software and random apps going on another screen, will the CPU only use one ccd (8 cores) for those non gaming processes?
core scaling stuff is great, more of that plss!!
Thank you very much for sharing your video. Minute 16:20 7950X3D for me it wins because of the consumption, this is the graph that fully convinced me.
The total average consumption mentioned verbally at 17:31 is wrong compared with the graph. The X3D consumes LESS than 250W and not 328W avg. as it's written!
It's more efficient for over 100W than the normal 7950X!
I wonder if the 7950X3D plot is wrong or the average number. As they said. 7% less performance for 7% less power is maybe more likely than, almost same performance for 40% less power.
@@mikeh6286 In gaming bench it's drawing 120 watts (this number comes from other channels). If it only uses half of the cores in gaming and this is an all-core test, I guess it should just probably be using about 250W, seems logical to me. But it's their explanation of the graph I don't get, I mean if it's just label error their whole explanation did not make sense either.
They probably wrote 328W instead of 228W
Hey did you guys happen to run any Davinci Resolve bench marks? I’m curious how this would pair with my 4090. Thanks
They don't what's good ;p
@@pcworld Is that an issue with the benchmark or is there a stability problem in regard DaVinci and new Ryzen CPU's?
For video editing in apps like adobe premiere , after effects and DaVinci Resolve which CPU is the best for performance? I9 13900K , 13900KS or AMD 7950X or AMD 7950X3D?
Did you ever end up deciding? In the same situation.
@@ActuallySmitty amd 5950x and rtx 3090 runs all video Editing apps
Would like to see production work while gaming at thr same time on 7900X3D
How about a similar test, but for streamers that wish to run a single PC, so a game + OBS. Maybe run a game + OBS (recording) vs a game +OBS(streaming) ??
Do 1080p game + 1080p stream, 1440p game + 1080p stream, 4k game + 1080p stream ??
That won’t be possible, according to gamer nexus while gaming the chip will be disabling non cache CCD with enabled cache CCD. So it seems if you open a game and a productivity program, it’ll dump everything on the cache CCD. Let’s see because AMD is relying on Xbox bar in PC to determine which program need more cache. That is a lot more harder and riskier problem compare to intel’s big core or little core. Intel can use thread director and put small task on small core and big task on big core. But for AMD determining cache dependency of each task is very challenging, it’s a much harder problem to solve. There’s literally an entire field in computer engineering trying to find ways to assign cache to cache dependent tasks right now.😅
@@slimjimjimslim5923 Shoulda showed that example, so if you are in 'gaming mode' everything is thrown at the stacked die. For example, I fired up Cinebench R23 using 4-threads and Chrome running WebXprt 4 and it goes to the stacked die. Generally, as much as possible is thrown to the stacked part. If, however, you run Cinebench R23 using 16 threads, the extra work is thrown onto the second die.
One problem with trying to do multi-tasking benchmarks is can be extremely inconsistent in obtaining reliable results. It's probably easier with say, two fixed workloads Blender+Cinebench or POV-Ray + Blender but gaming+work can be inconsistent from run to run or Tuesday results to Thursday results.
@@FakeGordonMahUng ah thanks Gordon. 👍. To be honest as a gamer I don’t wanna think about all these cores going all over the place, making my head hurt. I would just prefer all 3D cache CCD like 5800x3d or 7800x3d series.
@@slimjimjimslim5923 The vast majority of gamers do not need high-core count CPUs. We've said that for a long, long time. A Ryzen 5 and Core i5 is more than enough. Put your money into GPU and monitor instead. The 7950X3D is, however, a good 'best of both worlds' chip that AMD promised.
With 5800X3D, it was generally good for gaming (not always) but would actually be slower than 5800X due to lower clocks and when cache didn't matter. It was also significantly slower than a 5950X in multi-core performance. There are indeed people who need/want more core performance with Vcache for gaming. 7950X3D largely does that.
But no, a 95% gamer does not need to pay a premium for more cores. They also don't need to pay for high-end motherboard, RGB, or super fancy case either. Need isn't the same as want though so people should build around their own parameters and be happy with it.
17:00 Sheesh the power efficiency of how much power it draws
You can achieve the same efficiency if you reduce clocks on the non 3d part as well .
@@earnistse4899 Only in content creation. The point of the Vcache version is gaming though, and in gaming the performance per watt is nuts compared to a 13900KS.
7950x 3d is Fantastic gammning CPU. A must-buy CPU for gamers.
Code compilation tests please!
Good idea. Any recommendations?
-Adam
@@pcworld I'd be happy to collaborate to help create a benchmark suite that has easily reproducible compilations for a good benchmark if you're interested. Kinda hard to do that over YT comments.
But off the top of my head, we have the basic use cases of:
- Web development
- Most often this is single threaded bound
- Compile React source code
- Maybe find a big-ish web project and build that
- Run serial/parallel browser integration tests
- Rust builds
- Shows off parallel compilation performance
- Common builds
- large open source projects make for good benefits because they are non trivial
- build the Linux kernel
- build Firefox or Chrome
- build nginx
Would probably be worth doing these builds on Linux and using a RAM drive to avoid I/O bottle necks
Then comparing that data to other compiling monsters. No one seems to include the M1/M2, which a lot of companies are forcing engineers to use because Apple says they are fast and no one disputes it haha
I'd imagine software engineers are a target for this top end CPU segment but no one gives us love 😂
Idle power is particularly interesting because we sit at idle for 30 minutes before running a 5+ minute 100% all core build, rinse and repeat. No point in using 100w at idle if all you're doing is messing with a text editor.
Wow, the power consumption on the Intel was nuts!
Nuts in a good way?
For what most people use most of the time, which is single core, Intel is better. Better idle, also.
@@FlorinArjocu If Intel's single cores are better, why does the 7950X3D outperform it in most gaming benchmarks? It has 16 performance cores whereas the 13900k has 8
@@thavrisco1632 we are talking about idle consumption which seems to be terrible on x3d.
isn't average 7950X3D power consumption at 16:16 about 238W instead of the 328W?
yes that seems like a big mistake from them, X3D is hugely more efficient than the other CPUs
Geekbench is better for giving an overall picture. Cinebench is good for extending the conversation about one being better than the other.
*!!!ATTENTION, GAMERS!!!*
7800X3D = 1080p
7900X3D = 1080p/1440p
7950X3D = 1440p/4K
*X3D only benefits most from >1080p< then 1440p and the least in 4K..*
So if you're buying 7800X3D/7900X3D for 4K you're wasting your money!
From 7950X to 7950X3D is rarely 1-5% difference in FPS which is not worth it (for 4K).
I was looking for Frame Chaser's comment below
7950x3d + A380 make it like a glove, just destroing 14900k. Same for blender, why are you renxering on it? Just do simulation, blender dont update cycles for cpu for years.
Ps: please put driver version, for 7950x3d is very important
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16:27 Do you mean "228"Watt for 7950X3D?😂
Reaper?
what about idle power, someone set its significantly higher…
opened right up name dropping the wrong processor.. "Ryzen 9 7900X3D"
Gaming benchmarks?
They could strech this video to 1.5 h
Electricity is not free! Lol
PBO could fix it
So, to sum it up, the KS wins in productivity, and it ties in gaming. Intel still on top as long as you don't care about efficiency! Who really cares about efficiency as long as you're on top!
And if you also consider that ypu don't work 100% cores 100% of the time and in single core and also in idle Intel consumes less, it means at the end of the month you might actually have an equal or lower electricity bill.
@@FlorinArjocu and the added benefit for people who live in cold climates is that I can use my 13900ks and my 7900xtx to heat my office, which leads to a lower monthly bill!
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7950X3D is a scam
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nope lol
DOA CPU from AMD, this cpu cost more than already overpriced R9 7950X, it even worse because AMD need premium Mobo and premium DDR5 to be able to competes with i9-13900K. What a flop LOL.
Premium ddr5? What box are u living on intel fanboy.
@@OrjonZ Lol cope Amd fanboy. Go watch hardware unboxed and you will see how it performs with DDR5 5200 like on most Intel build. Amd zen 4 performance is total joke for its price.
DOA is like someone wants to look at a Porsche/Lamborghini, etc. Over priced. Know how that sounds?
(edit: it's different markets)
@@runninginthe90s75 ddr5 6000 is not premium lol… ddr5 6400+ is.
@@OrjonZ Whatever to help you sleep at night Amd fanboy 🤡