The Secret Weapon For Your Gaming Setup? - Sonos Ray Review
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I will now tell you the most important thing to do when choosing speakers of any kind. GO TO THE BLOODY STORES AND LISTEN. You will never be able to choose the best for you by reading. The absolutle only way to get the best you can, is to listen. And compare.
Advice of the year I can vouch for this
Exactly what I did, I have a full blown dolby atmos setup 7.2.4and I tested all my speakers in the demo room.
You literally cannot test every speaker you are interested in buying so how is this good advice? What store did you go to?
@@illogik You go to multiple stores, you test as many as you can, you buy the one that you tested that you like best. If you have no hifi experience you will allmost garanteed not buy the absolute best for your money. But thats ok. As long as you are happy, it is good enough. Over time when you get experience. You will have some idea of what brands suit you the best. And after that, there are no speakers you cant listen to that you are intrested in. If the speakers of intrest aint in the store, you can just ask them and they will bring it in.
@@illogik if ur looking for a good speaker that isnt sold on aliexpress then i think u would have pretty good luck going to a best buy or a target even to see what they have on demo
You have such a classy editor my dude. I LOVE the subtlety of his humour. 2:15.
Nice video and a very important topic to me, cheap speakers with poor sound can potentially ruin the gaming experience a bit.
I keep my G560 2.1 system though it's a bit outdated but the audio quality is still superb when connected to a proper sound chip.
Personally, I don't like those big bars blocking my desk, I'm using a wall-attached sound bar for my tv set in the living room where it is fine.
Keep up the good work and greetings from Germany!
came to comment something similar and saw you were 6 months ahead, hahaha
Thinking of getting the g560 but reading issues with firmware and audio dropping out, have you had any issues?
G’Day there,
I’ve become a bit of a SONOS convert and am very keen to get one specifically for PC Gaming as I really don’t love having headphones on all the time.
As soon as I gain approval from the Bank of Wife, I’ll be adding one of these to my “study”. Might even accidentally get the wall mount and a couple of extra ONE SL’s to sit behind my desk for that surroundy soundy-vibe. :)
I started watching your videos 2 months ago from how to build a pc to good pc parts/accessories. I can now say I’m a proud owner of a RTX 3080/i7 11700k that I built myself 2 weeks ago. love all these videos.
Hey! You still using the same pc?
I am old enough to remember when gamers cared about sound. A creative Audigy card was essential, and I went through multiple PC speaker setups like the Creative Gigaworks and Logitech 5500's. Nowadays that all seems to have gone the same way as optical drives. I haven't owned a sound card, a DVD rewriter or Blu Ray drive or PC speakers for at least a decade.
I guess better motherboards, fast internet and computer moving into the front room have completely replaced the need for sound cards, optical drives and PC speakers for the most part.
I mean everyone uses headphones or headsets now and some do a decent job.
Gamers cared about sound cards because on board was terrible.
I have a sound card. Need to drive my sennheiser 700.
To be fair here. At those times most audio stuff was absolutely terrible.
Most mainstream devices blow a ton of the stuff from the days out of the water or come extremely close to it for a fraction of the price.
If you have an iPhone or an iPad, you should try trueplay. Every Sonos speaker I've ever had sounded dramatically better with trueplay.
I much prefer using my Creative GigaWorks T40 Series II speakers over a soundbar, upgraded from a soundbar to these and have 0 complaints. Also half the cost of the Sonos too.
Have read lots of good things about those Creative models.
I use the older version of those still. They are now behind my TV (space issues) and I can recommend them with no hesitation.
Sadly I need something flat for my PC setup so hey..gonna try the Sonos.
Fugitive orchestra?! Yeeesss, Portsmouth represent!!! ❤️
I like how you show us your screw ups! Most folks would have edited that out to look smart and perfect. I don't want perfect, I want normal!
So glad someone finally did a video on PC audio. Please do another one, Logitech has a great THX option that sounds amazing.
I actually I have the lg gaming sound bar and I love it!
@PcCentric that is the whole concept of the whole SONOS name, the designer designed it that way so you can read it upside down and it says @SONOS as well. It is genius!
I tried this with my system, I had the Panasonic SoundSlayer sound bar which was fine for gaming but my wife and I like to listen to music on my PC and Alexa. The SoundSlayer just wasn't up to the level we wanted for music. We found the Sonos Ray was even worse for both gaming and music, It just didn't have the power we wanted and the lack of inputs (only Wi-Fi and Optical) was unacceptable. I ended up paying a bit more for Polk MagniFi Mini AX Sound Bar and we love it. If you want to go with a sound bar and want better sound than any PC speakers can produce then Polk MagniFi Mini AX Sound Bar is the way to go. I also compared these to the Bose 600 sound bar which was in the same price ranged and the Polk MagniFi Mini AX Sound Bar blew the Bose 600 out of the water it wasn't even close enough to consider the Bose. The Polk MagniFi Mini AX Sound Bar also has a nice verity of input options including Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, HDMI eARC/ARC, optical, and AUX-in.
Hiya, just wondering if the Polk good for gaming?
I have the Creative Katana v2 which has a sound bar(rgb) and subwoofer and for the price of $329.99 usd vs this for $279.99 usd I have to say unless ur a Sonos enthusiast I dont feel this is the best choice.
Yeah, I have the v1 katana and am pretty happy for the price. I'm used to full sized HiFi stereo speakers and didnt want to take upall the space on my desk. I honestly don't feel like Ive made a huge compromise. 1 minute of frequency tuning and shes humming. I got it for around $230 NZD and this sonos is $450 NZD without a sub. Probably wont be upgrading
Well, its not entirely a good comparison.
The Sonos seems to be designed with space savings in mind.
Its physically a good amount smaller and doesnt come with an extra subwoover.
I looked at the Katana a while ago and almost bought it. Except its too large and I dont want to have to bother with a big black bassy box.
My Edifier 350db Speakers blow away my Katana V2 but I use it for my PS5.
Fugitive Orchestra, nice!
Saw them at a showcase gig with 8 people the other month in Hampshire!
Have the beam, may try the ray eventually…the front forward facing speakers make this tempting for a pc for video calls. The beam radiates sound quite a bit so even with dynamic mics it can be. A challenge
The reason why it sounds overly bassy or muddy is that you have it flat on your desk. Elevate it or mount it on the wall, preferably above your monitor, and it will sound a whole lot better.
Nope, I have a sound bar on my desk and I set it at an angle and the difference is barely noticeable. I also have another sound bar wall mounted under my tv and the bass is just bad. Good bass is not easy to find in a sound bar as you need to have real bass drivers that are correctly set to pull air in and push it out.
£50 will get you a LG Z333 you get 2 speakers and a subwoofer best pc speakers ive ever had they sound perfect! claims to be only 80w but still has the potential to annoy the neighbors.
As soon as you said, "create an account," that made the soundbar a useless non starter. It's a friggin' speaker. It does not require an account, it does not require Internet access, it does not require drivers, or anything else. All it needs is power and an input. Anything beyond that means you need to return it as defective.
Agree, it should work basic outside the box.
I just set mine up today. Didn't need to do any of that
I think it's overkill for PC gaming. But looks like a good option for TV watching
Nah its underkill. You should spend as much money on audio as you do visuals. 5.1 surround is preferable and a good set of cans with a DAC/Amp is a must. None of those "gaming headsets" they practically all suck in terms of audio quality and if you need a mic then there are ways to have both. Many people think they dont need good sound but they are usually the people that haven't heard genuinely good audio.
@@alyx4436 for me it's overkill. For audiophiles, yeah I agree, they think otherwise. Everybody has different priorities
@@remyd8767 I have a 1200€ audio setup here (dac, amp, graphical eq, multiple headphones etc blabla) And guess what...
I tend to use my wireless gaming headset the most.
I disagree with most audiophiles when it comes to gaming. It doesnt sound better. It often just sounds different. Everyone has different ears and interprets audio in their own way. Also a headset needs one cable.
An audio setup needs a ton. Mine needs 3 power bricks, one USB cable, 8 RCA cables and one headphone cable. And it pulls 200-250W from the wall.
Lol over kill I have a dolby atmos ready sonos beam gen 2 a gen 3 subwoofer and two sonos 1s as rears 1500£ I have it calibrated to the room and play pc pcm 7.1 5.1 and pc dolby atmos games with it how is great suround sound with hifi qaukity speakers over kill its standard today or openback sinnhiser headphones with a amp dac
Tempted to use a Ray for a clean setup. I know this is an old post but did you use the trueplay tuning feature?
Bought one of these due to this video and was utterly dissapointed for gaming pc. However, ive now moved it to my tv for movies and turning it all into full surround with the sonos ones, so happy ending, but overal, for gaming i hated the sound just limited in front of me rather than speakers at the side. I now use my 30 pound budget ones and they sound better due to the positioning.
Another banger vid Marcus!
I just bought a Sonos Beam Gen 2 for my TV and I've been wondering about whether I should get another beam or a ray for my computer. I think you've convinced me that I should start saving up for a new sound bar. Thank you for making this video!
for 600 you can buy speakers that will ish on that beam, if you find it to bassy its because you have no business having a sub on your desk !
@@johnmcafee9663 While what you said is true I'm not sure it's the best advice for your average PC gamer. I personally have the fives from Klipsch with one of their 8 inch subwoofers all connected to my PC. The sound is fantastic.
However it can sometimes be overkill, especially at night. And if I'm ever playing multiplayer with friends I end up using my headset anyways. So a budget Soundbar isn't the worst idea in the world.
@@Sircinus3005 sounds to me like youve more money than sense, but gimmicks sell with those types so nothing out of the ordinary here right ;)
a nice set of stereo studio moniters and a dedicated sub (not on desk) would be much better and at the same price or cheaper
@@johnmcafee9663 I spent around 660 ish American. It's not about dollars and sense(cents heh) if your alternative is roughly 600. It's about lifestyle. If op has a family that complains about noise, lives in an apartment with neighbors who complain or has young kids they're better off with a budget soundbar.
@@Sircinus3005 hey, it isnt my money
Nice video I was wondering what dac and amp you are using also try reviewing the razer nommo pro against your bw speakers
hello my name is macai im new to pc gaming im 13 turning 14 in december i am getting a new pc that i have to build can you give me some tips to help
My logitec g560 speakers are great. It comes with a sub and two powerful speakers. There is a app to fine tune the sound.
I'll stick to my setup. Akai SW137 3 way speakers, harman kardon hk380i reciever, Scarlett Solo interface. Blows this out of the water and I have about the same amount of money in it all.
I have been using soundblaster x katana gaming soundbar for almoust 2 years now and really like to sound quality and that it looks cool under the monitor. So I could really recommend getting soundbars for gaming
This is the one I use as well, freaking love it. Discreet RGB, great sound, auto switching. Huge fan.
Creative Soundblaster V2. Sounds great, has multiple inputs with 6 presets on the remote and smaller and neater than the Sonos. BUt you do need roon for it’s subwoofer. I looked at the Sonos beam at the time but the Soundblaster is made for computer and just offers much more. Plus has front side headphone jack.
Am looking at soundbar for new build
Was in store listning to sonos ray, think sound was good. Any reason not to buy it? Will use with desktop computer for gaming/ listen music on computer
Would you recommend buying a separate anti-virus program or will windows defender do the job for my laptop? Have been using a antivirus program for a while, but I don’t know how much of a difference it makes.
One thing I would really like to know, how does this work with the extras speakers when connected to a computer? Does it give you true surround, or does it just play the same thing out of all the speakers?
I'm building myself a brand new pc right now and I'm planning on getting a pair of Samsung SS-CS5s to go with it.
Buying this for my partner and this was really helpful for someone who isn’t a gamer but dates a gamer.
Thank you for all your continuous tips
I have Creative Gigaworks T40 Series II speakers and they are pretty good. Decent bass.
and there was me thinking the headset was the most crucial 🤣
When you build your pcs, do you use any antistatic stuff? or do you just use a wood table?
I found it amazing how no one apart from people into sims talks about bass shakers.
Great video as always! I would recommend a bit more premium specific gaming sound, Razer Nommo Pro. Just bought it, awsome for gaming in every way, not hifi sound music listening like your B&W speakers.
Dose the sound from the bar is better than the edifier speakers?
Would love it if there was an optical switcher listed in the comments...as mentioned in the video?
The most crucial part of any setup for me is the mouse surface. you're gonna want something that makes the mouse glide easily, feels flat and gives you precise control
audio always seems to be put on the back burner with most gamers
@@outerheaven1000 I use monitor speakers. Audio is nothing to worry about as long as its clear and no hissing
@@Ladioz i beg to differ lol
If you want to optimize your sound quality, you need a sound card that offers balanced outputs so your audio signal will totally reject magnetic noise. It's also a good idea to power your audio system on an isolated circuit that isn't share with any other systems or devices. Proper grounding is essential.
Balanced interconnects are only really necessary if you're in a very noisy environment or have long distances. Also, it's an optical interconnect, it's completely immune to any form of EMI. And you're right about grounding, and the absolute worst thing you could do is put it on an isolated circuit as this would inevitably cause a big old ground loop.
You do realize that the Sonos is using an optical cable...right?
Just one question does a speakers magnet affect the monitor in the long term ?
I have quite a few Sonos products including the beam, Sonos ones, three's etc.. and every one has shielded double magnets, this is actually designed to sit under a TV so would be fine with any PC monitor as that's what it is designed to do. My only reservation is it is supposed to throw sound out in to the average lounge, so not sure how well it would sound sitting right next to it, or in a very small room.
What “optical switcher” are you using?
Very cool Marcus!
Can confirm my Rog Strix B550-A with Optical out is HOT TRASH it’s only Digital Audio, needs Dolby Digital… I ordered an eARC extractor for 25$ idk if my motherboard will produce DTS probably not, It might produce 5.1 but definitely not 7.1 I have the Beam+SubMini+Era100’s
I am gunna upgrade my motherboard soon. The Beam is a bit overkill for a PC desk, since it has ATMOS I will probably move it to our Bedroom and Get a ray. We got an ARC+SubGen3 downstairs 😏 SONOS IS AMAZING.
Edit: I move the Beam Gen 2/Mini/Era100's to my master bedroom much better when me and my wife are watching movies. Downstairs I added Era300's to our ARC/Gen3 set up, and let me tell you THOSE are AMAZING speakers.
I may do a Sonos Ray for my PC set up, but not until after I get a motherboard that will support Dolby Digital.
What about delay, i heard Sonos Products have a 75ms delay on sound inputs?
Great Review man!!! 😎👍
Can you go through Drivers troubleshooting? (I cant get the camera in my monitor to work with my new PC build) Also after installing drivers my computer refused to connect to 5G internet... I did a ton of reading online but I am really confused...
for my first pc should I build a ryzen 5 5600x and 6600 xt
that’s cool
depends, what resolution r u using to game or work on?
@@arzan6871 using to game
I'd say if you can shell out a bit more, 6700xt would be great.
@@maxhayesx you playing at 1080p monitor or 1440p monitor? If you had 1440p monitor 6700xt is better option i guess.
Does this have an annoying energy saving feature where the soundbar turns itself off or mutes itself if no signal is coming into it for a short period of time?
I tried a cheaper Vizio 20" soundbar for my computer and I LOVED the sound for the price, but it would 'power down' if no sound came to it, and when sound did come back to it, it would take a second for it to register and hear it. I tried turning the Energy saving off but it didn't help with the Vizio.
Is that a problem with this speaker?
For gaming, you need headsets really, yes for communications, but mainly to hear where your enemies are around you. I’ve noticed this more than ever playing Apex, where, let’s face it, the sound can be pretty buggy at times.
At some point, I probably should replace my Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System I bought more than a decade ago. Because the wires I deal with, is definitely an issue. But they still sound solid and other than the wires, I can't find a legitimate reason to replace them while they are still solid speakers.
You dont need to spend a ton on a good audio setup for a PC (not counting the desk). My speakers Dac and Amp cost me about $300 and if my PC had a decent sound card (Using an old dell workstation at the moment, in the process of building my new PC) I could have skipped the DAC. I'd take my setup any day over a sound bar but I guess I'm old school as I also still prefer wired headphones over wireless etc etc.
Plz make a video on what apps do you have
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It looks cool but without being their to hear as hearing it on you tube is totally different, but i love my surround sound 5 speaker plus sub logitech system. Roughly 2oo to 300 bucks but never tried anything else. And of course i have the 500 rig headset love them for ps5 gaming and pc.
Sonos beam gen 2 gen 3 sub and 1s as rears 5.1 7.1 dolby pcm atmos stereo pc and switch amazing sound or openback sinnhieser headphones
What happened to the Steam Deck is Disappointing video - That I had a notification for but is now private ??
I have the Arc love it
is there anyway to use this for gaming? cant seem to get the sound working
Sorry how do u connect to your PC again? Is a HDMI cable enough? It can’t work for me! :((
he used optical
My speakers cost $10. That thing costs $280. Not high on my priority list.
With so many good and cheap speakers around, I'll never understand why people completely go over the top in that department.
@N7Andy Thanks for clarifying. I'm thinking about hooking my PC up to the TV to see how games look on it. A friend of mine sold me one of his 55" TV's for $100. Have a great day.
Took me 2 hours to connect my beam gen 2 to my pc and I had to reinstall the audio drivers. The optical cable is extremely loose in the spdif port partly due to the weight on the HDMI optical adapter and my audio keeps buzzing randomly. Kinda sad actually.
Where's that Steam Deck video?
I didnt understand how did you make it make some sounds I am using this for my pc but I dont get any sound.. I have the same cable and the same connection points on my mainboard… HELP
Oh Marcus... 🤣
So I bought a ray and can't use it with my gaming laptop as it has no optical out... how the hell do I use it with my laptop? I bought an external sound card off of amazon to send sound from there through optical but there's no sound... any ideas?
What would you recommend for decent speakers for pc?
Creative T20 2 or T40 2, as others said here as well.
Affordable and they just do sound very very good.
how to connect to a monitor without a dac external audio ?
Honestly at that price point you can just pick up razer or lg speakers and they will sound miles better than a small soundbar
Trust me nothing that razer produces will sound anywhere near a Sonos speaker.
@@danrooster5783 then go for logitech g560 speakers. Those will blow this little bar out of the water. Come with a subwoofer and you can set em to right and left for better immersion
@@44magdeagle The G560 also take up a lot more space and need extra wiring. The point of a soundbar is clean looks and a small footprint.
@@Waldherz youre playing on a desktop ... you wont be moving your set up every 5 minutes. Quality over gimmicks but to each of their own i guess. Personally I wold not get it nor would i reccomend this to anyone
@@44magdeagle I still literally and physically dont have the space for a subwoover and speakers.
it was sonos trust me the setup issues are unreal sometimes with these speakers
Anyone here can give me a hand? I bought this but I realize my motherbored did not have a optical place to put it in, I bought an adapter and pluged it in and there is still no sound? any tips?
Me who has a semi decent headset which still works after 5 years
Can I pair Sonos One SLs to Ray as surround speakers for PC?
No as it doesn't allow pcm multi channel imputs you need beam gen 2 for that Ray only does dolby 5.1 beam gen 2 does dolby 5.1 dolby atmos and pcm 5.1 7.1
that's cool but i think quite a few ppl just use headphones/iems
Klipsh The Fives. Never have to upgrade again.
Cool you keep this and I'll take your 685s lol
hello! my asus rog strix f-gaming b560 does not have optical, but what if i use a cable optical to toslink 3,5mm? is that ok? ty
Pretty sure that's only for if your port has a mini optical port, like chromecast audio
@@PcCentric thank you so much for your answer!
Very exceptional video 📹 Markus! When building a new PC 🖥 😀 setup, it is always 😀 a good idea 💡 to invest in some quality sound products that will make your listening experience that much better 😀!
Crucial (The Company) might copyright you for that 🤣🤣🤣
8:04. I disagree, and think this is poor advice, that it would be hard pushed to get better for the money.
Google desktop speakers or active desktop speakers, and there are lots of alternatives. Speakers will give stereo for enemy location too.
A soundbar is a stereo device as well. Its not like its a single speaker.
@@Waldherz Yeah but I was talking about speaker stereo for enemy location. I know some if not all soundbars are in stereo.
However if you are going to get sound, speakers will be better all around. Better for music, and streaming, DVDs, blu-ray, etc.
Like some time ago now, I bought the Q Acoustics BT3. The What HiFi review said of them, the BT3 knock any similarly priced sounbar into a cocked hat.
Just by physics and acoustics alone, speakers will be superior in every way. Plus you get much more choice and way better sound per pound at any price range. In fact active speakers offer better sound quality over amplifier and speakers, when on a budget. That's widely considered correct.
BT3 or Audioengine, or Dynaudio. Plenty of excellent options. Google desktop active speakers, or active speakers.
@@greenbow7888 I fully agree with you here.
Oh and btw, I got my Sonos Ray. You also need an apple account and turn on apple car play in the Sonos app. The speaker wont accept a cable signal if you dont do this.
24 bit 48 khz. I guess its fine...but eh.
I dont like this soundbar at all but its the only speaker that fits into my setup.
@@Waldherz Yeah if you have no choice they why not go soundbar?
By conicidence I am looking at an article on the Sonos Ray, in the latest edition of Maximum PC. (August 2022.)
FYI Your link goes to Bose instead of Sonos.
Don’t waste money on it , buy Edifier G5000 Gaming instead it’s incredible for 349 euro with immersive sound
me using a AVR with tower speakers for front a central and 4 satelites connected to pc with a sound blaster x3 using dolby digital live and sometimes audio from hdmi and dolby atmos
a soundbar 🤣
I stick with my Razer Nommo Pro
I think separate speakers are better for gaming and music. Sonos at that price range are ok ,but their is better out there.
those 2 stereo speaakers you have will sound much better than that thing, and if the bass is too much its because you shouldnt have a sub on your desk , that thing is a rip off
I thought this was a Crucial Storage sponsored video.
I saw your video, and then bought the Sonos Ray, plug it on the optical out of my mother board... and ouch what an horrible sound far worse than what this bar can do with my iPhone...
can't understand why.
There is no power, did I miss something? maybe a dedicated audio card?
I bought that for UA-cam video, and the voice is so off. nothing like yours test.
only sonos radio sounds very good, but I tried with Netflix on my computer and it's nearly impossible to hear the voices on the film.
299€ for a little bassy soundbar with no sub? No thanks! That's pretty f***ing expensive. Just grab any Edifier or Swans system and you'll be golden.
Do a video on gaming chairs lol
Can someone explain to me why you would spend extra on speakers when you can just use your headset for audio?
Preference. Some people prefer speakers for the open sound.
Also a ton of people sweat under headphones during summer a lot.
Hey
I thought you said affordable 🤣