I'm 75 and have been playing for 25 years. I like to study technique but I've never come across these ideas. This could be huge for me because I'm not very flexible and am sure that my backswing has the movements that you point out as mistaken. Thank you so much.
This video was made for me - thanks! I have been struggling with low point and compression, and my lower back is killing me. Booom, your first few minutes describing how the left (leading) leg comes forward and what that causes describes me. Great explanation!
Excellent work… have been struggling with the low point control. This has been very helpful. I look forward to seeing more videos and thank you for sharing. 😊
I really like the clear explanation of how a collapsing lead knee causes all sorts of problems in the golf swing. Like collapsing the whole of the left side moving the left / lead shoulder tipping down rather than around to the right side. So in essence tilting without doing the rotation. I like the clear example of the consequences needing to do an early upward tilt / extension of lead shoulder causing the early release fat shot. I don’t like the advice to bend your lead arm. That’s fixing one fault & creating another. Soft arm yes but not to fold your lead arm.
I'm sorry, but I think allowing the average golfer to bend their lead arm some is very helpful. Most people also collapse their lead side due to having the left side locked out which doesn't allow for the proper rotation of the upper body. All the best.
This video is my golf swing in a nutshell. My left knee has always moved towards the ball in the backswing with a big increase in flex while my right leg straightens which shoots my rip hip way back. This causes my head to get closer to the ball in the backswing. To compensate, I have to back out of the golf shot to make room. I'm pretty good at doing it most of the time as I am a +2 but some days its like I don't even know how to hit a golf ball. Will definitely be working with the band to work on the proper lead knee movement.
Can I say something: if you protract your scapula and your posture will get more neutral and athletic, there will be no reverse pivot in your backswing. Otherwise yes, you are right But the problem is not a lead elbow, the problem is posture
Posture is the reason for 99% of the problems golfers think they have. With that said, I am not trying to make a generalized statement and am talking about specific issues. All the best, but i don’t think your comment applies to the video.
you make a difficult thing to understand easier to understand.... good stuff. because I Hit on the wrong side of the ball I always try to suggest to folks to talk lead / trail and fade / draw as opposed to right left. its better for coaches as well because they will never have to think about it or change when they are coaching evil leftys like me:) ha ha! grateful for you sir!
Interesting. But what do you say to golf coaches like Mike Adams, Terry Rowles, and Dr. Scoot Lynn (just to name a few biodynamic gurus) who think this action is necessary for front post/lead leg dominant golfers?
I would say what I always do, thank you. I have been learning from Mr. Adams and Terry since 2018, and have been fortunate enough to learn a great deal from both of them and they definitely put me on the path to who I am today. I have also presented with and worked alongside Dr. Lynn (The only actual biomechanist that you mentioned) due to my relationship with Swing Catalyst, and continue to learn from the research that he is doing in the background in regards to GRF's and application. With that said, and to answer your question without claiming that anyone else is wrong, when Mr. Adams is referencing posting styles, he is referencing the pressure shift, not how much the center of the body moves. Pressure and Mass are not the same thing. If we assume that a centered pressure shift is 85% into the trail side, which I can assure you is commonly accepted, than a front post style player would have a pressure shift between 70-80%, and rear post style player would have close to or more than 90% in their trail leg at maximum pressure back during the backswing. Collapsing your lead knee and lead side towards the ball in the backswing isn't a front post, it is a reverse pivot with a spine pointing at the target. In addition to the geometric consequences that this creates with the arms, it also keeps the pressure on the lead side and is a sure way to not be able to shift your pressure into your trail side enough to have anything to push with towards the ball, hence the early extension that "front post" players suffer from. All the best.
Golf is inherently rotary and torque is confused for turn. With that said, if you tilt at the pelvis instead of with the shoulders, then torque is no longer an option. All the best.
@@measuredgolf I am not clear on what you are claiming…the pelvis isn’t a perfect circle but rather a stretched out and elongated circle…when loading into the trail hip, it must tilt otherwise your head will be pulled too far off the ball. The pelvis tilts for the most effective usage. See Sam Snead’s swing.
I’m sorry, but I haven’t seen 3D data on Mr. Snead. In golf we stand beside the ball which makes it a rotary action, not above the ball which would make it a tilting action. Also, a tilted pelvis doesn’t allow for the lower lumbar spine to load properly which creates a lot of other issues in power creation. I understand that a golf swing looks a certain way, but I can promise that every current tour player is playing with a tucked pelvis otherwise their lower back wouldn’t survive the season with the speed they need to compete. All the best.
@@measuredgolf ua-cam.com/video/4yDwImZnpIU/v-deo.htmlsi=qBiZ7pct6xqvo31A Mike Austin, still the longest driver ever, as he holds the world record for the longest drive in a sanctioned professional tournament in 1974 at the age of 64 with a balata ball and persimmon wood steal shafted driver of 515 yards. Mike advocated a tilt of the pelvis and a turn of the torso. I was fortunate enough to meet Mike about 2 years before he passed away. Even though I am almost 70 years old, my driver routinely carriers 250+ yards and my 8 iron 150+ yards using his methodology. Most professional players today do not use the MA swing but they still hit way short of him with far superior equipment. I’ve seen great players power the swing differently. It has also occurred to me that there are far more injuries on tour than there used to be as well.
@@TheOnlyStonemason I appreciate your insights, but I am not talking from an observational standpoint. I also know that the pelvis naturally orientates tipped forward and current atheltes are using their glutes and core to tuck this pelvis during the entire swing. I have both measured this and observed it. All the best moving forward.
I'm 75 and have been playing for 25 years. I like to study technique but I've never come across these ideas. This could be huge for me because I'm not very flexible and am sure that my backswing has the movements that you point out as mistaken. Thank you so much.
Super hard to twist away if you are falling towards at the same time. Hope it helps and all the best.
This video was made for me - thanks! I have been struggling with low point and compression, and my lower back is killing me. Booom, your first few minutes describing how the left (leading) leg comes forward and what that causes describes me. Great explanation!
Glad you found the video helpful. Golf is a lot more enjoyable pain free. All the best.
Me too!
Excellent work… have been struggling with the low point control. This has been very helpful. I look forward to seeing more videos and thank you for sharing. 😊
Thank you, glad the video has helped. All the best.
I really like the clear explanation of how a collapsing lead knee causes all sorts of problems in the golf swing. Like collapsing the whole of the left side moving the left / lead shoulder tipping down rather than around to the right side. So in essence tilting without doing the rotation. I like the clear example of the consequences needing to do an early upward tilt / extension of lead shoulder causing the early release fat shot. I don’t like the advice to bend your lead arm. That’s fixing one fault & creating another. Soft arm yes but not to fold your lead arm.
I'm sorry, but I think allowing the average golfer to bend their lead arm some is very helpful. Most people also collapse their lead side due to having the left side locked out which doesn't allow for the proper rotation of the upper body. All the best.
Thanks very helpful.
Happy to help. All the best.
Super advice👍👍👍
Thanks. All the best.
This video is my golf swing in a nutshell. My left knee has always moved towards the ball in the backswing with a big increase in flex while my right leg straightens which shoots my rip hip way back. This causes my head to get closer to the ball in the backswing. To compensate, I have to back out of the golf shot to make room. I'm pretty good at doing it most of the time as I am a +2 but some days its like I don't even know how to hit a golf ball. Will definitely be working with the band to work on the proper lead knee movement.
Glad this video was helpful for you. Best of luck with the band and be sure to keep the shoulders feeling more in front of you. All the best.
Me too!
Excellent vid as alwaya !! Congrafs on 2k subs!🎉🎉🎉
Thanks amigo, appreciate the support as always! Hope all is well.
Ace!
Can I say something: if you protract your scapula and your posture will get more neutral and athletic, there will be no reverse pivot in your backswing. Otherwise yes, you are right
But the problem is not a lead elbow, the problem is posture
Posture is the reason for 99% of the problems golfers think they have. With that said, I am not trying to make a generalized statement and am talking about specific issues. All the best, but i don’t think your comment applies to the video.
you make a difficult thing to understand easier to understand.... good stuff. because I Hit on the wrong side of the ball I always try to suggest to folks to talk lead / trail and fade / draw as opposed to right left. its better for coaches as well because they will never have to think about it or change when they are coaching evil leftys like me:) ha ha! grateful for you sir!
Agreed, too many hockey players around for me not to switch to lead/trail. All the best.
Let the left arm bend a little? That's new. I'll try it! And no knee bend. Got it.
Not sure where the no knee bend came from, but the knees need to be over the toes and the pelvis behind the knees. All the best.
Interesting. But what do you say to golf coaches like Mike Adams, Terry Rowles, and Dr. Scoot Lynn (just to name a few biodynamic gurus) who think this action is necessary for front post/lead leg dominant golfers?
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I would say what I always do, thank you. I have been learning from Mr. Adams and Terry since 2018, and have been fortunate enough to learn a great deal from both of them and they definitely put me on the path to who I am today. I have also presented with and worked alongside Dr. Lynn (The only actual biomechanist that you mentioned) due to my relationship with Swing Catalyst, and continue to learn from the research that he is doing in the background in regards to GRF's and application. With that said, and to answer your question without claiming that anyone else is wrong, when Mr. Adams is referencing posting styles, he is referencing the pressure shift, not how much the center of the body moves. Pressure and Mass are not the same thing. If we assume that a centered pressure shift is 85% into the trail side, which I can assure you is commonly accepted, than a front post style player would have a pressure shift between 70-80%, and rear post style player would have close to or more than 90% in their trail leg at maximum pressure back during the backswing. Collapsing your lead knee and lead side towards the ball in the backswing isn't a front post, it is a reverse pivot with a spine pointing at the target. In addition to the geometric consequences that this creates with the arms, it also keeps the pressure on the lead side and is a sure way to not be able to shift your pressure into your trail side enough to have anything to push with towards the ball, hence the early extension that "front post" players suffer from. All the best.
The swing is more of a tilt than a turn…you can see this clearly with Sam Snead. Much better for the avg golfer IMO
Golf is inherently rotary and torque is confused for turn. With that said, if you tilt at the pelvis instead of with the shoulders, then torque is no longer an option. All the best.
@@measuredgolf I am not clear on what you are claiming…the pelvis isn’t a perfect circle but rather a stretched out and elongated circle…when loading into the trail hip, it must tilt otherwise your head will be pulled too far off the ball. The pelvis tilts for the most effective usage. See Sam Snead’s swing.
I’m sorry, but I haven’t seen 3D data on Mr. Snead. In golf we stand beside the ball which makes it a rotary action, not above the ball which would make it a tilting action. Also, a tilted pelvis doesn’t allow for the lower lumbar spine to load properly which creates a lot of other issues in power creation. I understand that a golf swing looks a certain way, but I can promise that every current tour player is playing with a tucked pelvis otherwise their lower back wouldn’t survive the season with the speed they need to compete. All the best.
@@measuredgolf ua-cam.com/video/4yDwImZnpIU/v-deo.htmlsi=qBiZ7pct6xqvo31A Mike Austin, still the longest driver ever, as he holds the world record for the longest drive in a sanctioned professional tournament in 1974 at the age of 64 with a balata ball and persimmon wood steal shafted driver of 515 yards. Mike advocated a tilt of the pelvis and a turn of the torso. I was fortunate enough to meet Mike about 2 years before he passed away. Even though I am almost 70 years old, my driver routinely carriers 250+ yards and my 8 iron 150+ yards using his methodology. Most professional players today do not use the MA swing but they still hit way short of him with far superior equipment. I’ve seen great players power the swing differently. It has also occurred to me that there are far more injuries on tour than there used to be as well.
@@TheOnlyStonemason I appreciate your insights, but I am not talking from an observational standpoint. I also know that the pelvis naturally orientates tipped forward and current atheltes are using their glutes and core to tuck this pelvis during the entire swing. I have both measured this and observed it. All the best moving forward.