What If Japan Was Never Hit By Nuclear Bombs

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  • @brianengland8948
    @brianengland8948 2 роки тому +1643

    There was one guy who was in Hiroshima, survived, went to Nagasaki, got nuked again, and survived that. Oh, and it gets better: he was in the middle of explaining why he was covered in bandages when the bomb went off.

    • @M_H_H
      @M_H_H 2 роки тому +300

      I read that he worked for mitsubishi. And he hold world record of surviving most nuclear attack

    • @brianengland8948
      @brianengland8948 2 роки тому +25

      @@M_H_H 😂

    • @techgeneralgaming7279
      @techgeneralgaming7279 2 роки тому +72

      Man just said, not today , never

    • @digimonlover1632
      @digimonlover1632 2 роки тому +53

      @@M_H_H What a f*cked up record. Why does that exist?

    • @M_H_H
      @M_H_H 2 роки тому +28

      @@digimonlover1632 ask guiness

  • @EmC5133
    @EmC5133 2 роки тому +4300

    Next what if episode: *What if art schools in the 1900s were more forgiving?*

    • @yesmhm1396
      @yesmhm1396 2 роки тому +126

      Oh no

    • @Rob774
      @Rob774 2 роки тому +171

      Cleverly worded.

    • @emperorsponge9208
      @emperorsponge9208 2 роки тому +89

      World would still be colonized

    • @caaryancr3094
      @caaryancr3094 2 роки тому +77

      Then it would be ww2 of USA vs Russia

    • @dinamosflams
      @dinamosflams 2 роки тому +23

      Forgiving?
      Their top art was modernist trash

  • @calebcostrini
    @calebcostrini 2 роки тому +1091

    Moral of the story is that once you get into a in war, there are no good options. There are only the ones that seem the least terrible at the time.

    • @tomjjackson21
      @tomjjackson21 2 роки тому +29

      Moral of the story is don't fk with the assumed caretaker for the chaotic good.

    • @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL
      @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL 2 роки тому +8

      ,,🤕🤥🗽🤮🤒👿☠️👺👹🩸🩸🩸😮🛑🔪🐽💔🐑🐖🐂🐓👹😲😮🔪☠️👎

    • @Basedapple
      @Basedapple 2 роки тому +23

      @@dantesinferno9circlesofHELL what kind of drugs were you taking when you made that comment?

    • @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL
      @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL 2 роки тому +3

      @@Basedapple another sheep, wow.... you really told me off ......SASMF

    • @Basedapple
      @Basedapple 2 роки тому +17

      @@dantesinferno9circlesofHELL I’m a sheep? , for calling you out on your emoji made comment..wow, you really are on drugs .

  • @redstonehero7944
    @redstonehero7944 2 роки тому +957

    To be fair, some Japanese officers already saw the futility of the war and wanted to surrender much earlier than the dropping of the nukes, but because of how strong japanese spirit was, those officers couldn’t actually do much.

    • @TrinityDestroyer
      @TrinityDestroyer 2 роки тому +123

      Even though Japan had offered to surrender by that point, before the bombs dropped, their terms were much more inline with a ceasefire. They wanted to continue their war in China, they wanted to keep all the territory they conquered, they wanted to keep their generals, they basically just wanted to stop fighting the US, and with documents obtained after the war, it was very apparent that they were planning to attack the US again after rebuilding their army. Conditional surrender was just not an option, and sadly the bombs were really the best choice to officially bring such a horrible conflict to an end.

    • @spinning_ice1487
      @spinning_ice1487 2 роки тому +62

      This is why having too much courage and confidence is actually bad

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 2 роки тому +28

      It’s weird to think the Japanese government during ww2 was kind of like how North Korea is portrayed. Or killing all politicians who disagreed with the army and being fantasists. The army not cooperating with the navy. The Japanese citizen’s future or well-being being way way low in the list of priorities.

    • @bradthebreadstick
      @bradthebreadstick 2 роки тому +6

      cause they were scared of the russians, better to surrender to the americans

    • @kataloganz
      @kataloganz 2 роки тому +4

      @@spinning_ice1487 nah

  • @damianhand2364
    @damianhand2364 2 роки тому +121

    The bombings over Tokyo went up to 400,000, vs the nukes at 255,000, yes singularly the nukes did more damage but the first bombing talked about did a lot more and nobody talks about that. Or the fact it had to have been a lot slower than a nuke

    • @Emilechen
      @Emilechen 2 роки тому +4

      ans how many people remember that Chinese capital during war, Chonqing, get bombed by the Japanese for 6 or 7 years?

    • @thenorthstarsamurai
      @thenorthstarsamurai 2 роки тому +3

      @@Emilechen ahh yes because they did it means we are allowed to do it

    • @cluster4583
      @cluster4583 2 роки тому

      Wth why would they attack tokyo where emperor lives when they want them to surender

    • @thenorthstarsamurai
      @thenorthstarsamurai 2 роки тому +1

      @@cluster4583 Tokyo as in the city not specifically in the Imperial Palace

    • @bad_covfefe
      @bad_covfefe 2 роки тому +3

      If someone is doing a terrible thing, doing a terrible rhing by necessity to stop them is okay if they would otherwise continue.

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 роки тому +818

    It's amazing how changing just one tiny thing in history can completely alter the future drastically.

    • @eatchildhood6919
      @eatchildhood6919 2 роки тому +13

      @BeansAreGood L + Ratio

    • @AD-ui6sk
      @AD-ui6sk 2 роки тому +91

      @@eatchildhood6919 cringe

    • @miguelalvesmiguel7688
      @miguelalvesmiguel7688 2 роки тому +9

      @BeansAreGood true but he's right

    • @Datníggascrazy
      @Datníggascrazy 2 роки тому +18

      Tbh they still would have surrendered. As said in the video, the fire bombings killed as many people and the picture appears to shows equal amounts of damage as a nuke. A firebombing every other day would be like dropping a nuke every week or so.

    • @kaedence____
      @kaedence____ 2 роки тому +14

      Idiotic comment to think dropping not one but two nukes on civilians is a tiny thing in history.

  • @nathanseper8738
    @nathanseper8738 2 роки тому +544

    Sometimes in life, you don't have good options. In a world where Operation Downfall happened, people would criticize Truman for the massive loss of both American and Japanese lives.

    • @freddiemercury2075
      @freddiemercury2075 2 роки тому +74

      The 2 atomic bombs actually saved more lives. It's sad but it's the only way.

    • @dildobaggins6348
      @dildobaggins6348 2 роки тому +22

      @@BlueEthereal ye but we delivered 2 instead and it wasnt there favourite

    • @yesyesyesyes1600
      @yesyesyesyes1600 2 роки тому +17

      no right no wrong just history
      imagine a world were the Allies used Germany to destroy communism

    • @digimonlover1632
      @digimonlover1632 2 роки тому +33

      @@BlueEthereal Pearl Harbor and the atomic bombs aren’t comparable at all lol.

    • @turbografxx
      @turbografxx 2 роки тому +11

      @@freddiemercury2075 you know that the Japanese were ready to surrender BEFORE the bombs, right?

  • @alexlevinson8629
    @alexlevinson8629 2 роки тому +456

    As we know, history is ‘tweaked’ in the favor of the winners, good or bad. Imagine what there is in history that we don’t know about that has changed how we live every day.

    • @zerocool497
      @zerocool497 2 роки тому +17

      Just watch “the man in the high castle”

    • @alifr4088
      @alifr4088 2 роки тому +8

      Parallel universe

    • @justdanie7613
      @justdanie7613 2 роки тому

      @@zerocool497 will do. Never heard of it

    • @bursegsardaukar
      @bursegsardaukar 2 роки тому +20

      History is written by the winners

    • @shuruyoshi
      @shuruyoshi 2 роки тому +2

      Can u explain more to what u mean ? Its kinda interesting

  • @thomaswaldron5215
    @thomaswaldron5215 Рік тому +4

    Frequently overlooked, over 100k Chinese, 50k East Indians ( modern Indonesia), and tens of thousands in SE Asia, died every month as summer of 45 dragged on. By the time Operation Downfall (11/45), perhaps 3/4 to 1 million civilians likely would have died.

  • @Trip_koLng
    @Trip_koLng 2 роки тому +25

    Soldiers at the Philippines meanwhile:
    "Hey, they're not leaving"
    "Isn't your president gonna drop a bomb in Japan?"
    "He cancelled it"
    "Bruh"

    • @thenorthstarsamurai
      @thenorthstarsamurai 2 роки тому +2

      Why would a normal soldier from the Philippines would know about the atomic bomb

    • @Typhoon457
      @Typhoon457 2 роки тому +1

      @@thenorthstarsamurai maybe because Philippines was a US colony

    • @thenorthstarsamurai
      @thenorthstarsamurai 2 роки тому +1

      @@Typhoon457 that doesn't make sense since the atomic bomb was literally a secret weapon

  • @eskhawk
    @eskhawk 2 роки тому +240

    "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" were not cynical nicknames...The nicknames were given by members of the Manhattan Project in reference to General Groves (Fat Man) and Robert Oppenheimmer (Little Boy)...In addition to DOWNFALL an operation named STARVATION was being conducted...Smaller warships were clearing the Sea of Japan of all fishing boats and food coming from mainland Asia...Also herbicides were being dropped on rice paddies and grain fields of people already operating on starvation rations...When Americans began occupying Japan thousand of tons of food were rushed monthly to feed civilians every month...Had DOWNFALL gone forward, it is likely over 20 million Japanese would have died before surrender...Even after the surrender the Japanese would be in the midst of terrible famine likely causing another 5-10 million deaths until enough food aid could be delivered...

    • @reeeeeeeman8792
      @reeeeeeeman8792 2 роки тому +27

      I actually learn more in comments then in the actual video

    • @sapporoichiban3612
      @sapporoichiban3612 2 роки тому +3

      Cannon Merryweather. I agree, there are a lot of inaccurate details in this video that are stated as fact.

    • @randomvideos136
      @randomvideos136 2 роки тому +2

      I have one question for you where are your resources for that information

    • @randomvideos136
      @randomvideos136 2 роки тому +2

      @@sapporoichiban3612 I want to know where your resources are to prove that

    • @randomvideos136
      @randomvideos136 2 роки тому +3

      @@sapporoichiban3612 do any of those comments list where they got that information from no but you want to know who does the infographic show

  • @guestb8389
    @guestb8389 2 роки тому +127

    For starters, we wouldn't have Japan's amazing Anime "Plot."

    • @cowby6264
      @cowby6264 2 роки тому +2

      It ain't amazing

    • @stealthpilot5207
      @stealthpilot5207 2 роки тому

      If japan wins*

    • @brianzhang1695
      @brianzhang1695 2 роки тому +1

      This is why we should never play with nukes

    • @stealthpilot5207
      @stealthpilot5207 2 роки тому +8

      @T Jain oh you never heard of Japanese war crimes?

    • @josephsheranda
      @josephsheranda 2 роки тому +1

      @T Jain
      I don't think he's being disrespectful at all. You should watch Barefoot Gen; it's an anime about the Hiroshima bombing.

  • @cowby6264
    @cowby6264 2 роки тому +65

    Something that was ironic was that a US Priest blessed the atom bombs with Holy Water and one of them destroyed a Convent.

    • @bigdick4090ti
      @bigdick4090ti 2 роки тому +3

      xD

    • @fairlysustained6625
      @fairlysustained6625 2 роки тому

      I mean....

    • @lukeshaul820
      @lukeshaul820 2 роки тому

      Catholics call their clergy priests not all American Christians or others.

    • @armandoruiz8758
      @armandoruiz8758 2 роки тому

      @@lukeshaul820 Mexico and Canada and 32 other countries is America too.

    • @armandoruiz8758
      @armandoruiz8758 2 роки тому

      @@lukeshaul820 The United States is actually using a name of a continent. We are U.S. citizens. Citizens of the United States. The United States is a country but America its not a country America its a continent. The whole entire continent was already named America 269 years way before the United States of America became a nation or even existed.

  • @Blutroth
    @Blutroth 2 роки тому +137

    Imagine how much ancient japanese cultural artifacts were wiped out because of this. Of course the loss of lives is tragic... but as someone who studied art, history and archeology i can tell you this is tragic on a different sphere. Not just japan...it happens and happened all around the globe because of war.

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 2 роки тому +29

      Like many areas in modern day Syria. Or places flooded for filing dams. Or the cultural revolution. I wonder if there was any old cultural stuff left in North Korea after the Korean War

    • @jamestonbellajo
      @jamestonbellajo 2 роки тому +36

      I’m glad you included that last sentence because Japan literally did this to the countries it conquered during this time period.

    • @lorelei4468
      @lorelei4468 2 роки тому +12

      yk the Americans originally wanted to nuke kyoto but they saw the historical value of the city and believed that they shouldnt destroy it so they set up to nuke a different city. Unfortunately, that city had bad cloud cover so they dropped fat man in Nagasaki

    • @scambutterboi3988
      @scambutterboi3988 2 роки тому +1

      the Dark ages says alot
      alot of missing historic records.

    • @armandoruiz8758
      @armandoruiz8758 2 роки тому +2

      @@lorelei4468 Mexico and Canada and 32 other countries is America too.

  • @PhillyFaithful93
    @PhillyFaithful93 2 роки тому +20

    It was 100% the right decision. The U.S gave Japan ample opportunities to surrender without getting nuked, and they responded by stating they’d sacrifice their entire population fighting the U.S off. We saved millions of lives by dropping the nukes and forcing Japan to the table, while also giving the world a lesson to the capabilities of such a bomb, which is why none have been used since.

    • @Elwood128
      @Elwood128 Рік тому

      Japan were masochists who are proud to be the only nation being nuked. If 2 nukes weren't enough to end an empire, then they must not be as powerful as they want us to believe.

    • @nicholasbrowning4558
      @nicholasbrowning4558 Місяць тому

      The japanese response was no occupation of their country and the soldiers would disarm on their own.

  • @CheeseburgerLee
    @CheeseburgerLee 2 роки тому +92

    Can we just appreciate how they can teach us this much in such a short time

    • @normal_person4879
      @normal_person4879 2 роки тому +6

      How to grind likes?

    • @JohnDoe-jk2do
      @JohnDoe-jk2do 2 роки тому +5

      generic copypaste comment

    • @CheeseburgerLee
      @CheeseburgerLee 2 роки тому +1

      @@normal_person4879 I didn’t even notice how much I had

    • @kimstone8532
      @kimstone8532 2 роки тому +3

      I appreciate the fact that it shows how bad the public education system is. People should have learned this at school not from a short UA-cam video.

    • @kimstone8532
      @kimstone8532 2 роки тому +2

      @@10tailedbijuu that doesn't change the fact that people should have learned this in school. Teachers can present the information exactly like that.

  • @jarcher7768
    @jarcher7768 2 роки тому +180

    Amazing to see such an unbiased and accurate take from a giant UA-cam channel. Never thought I’d see anyone touch this topic due to how upset people get when you point out the realities of the bombs.

    • @sapporoichiban3612
      @sapporoichiban3612 2 роки тому +11

      @Jarcher. Except that some of the things mentioned are up for debate among war historians.

    • @jarcher7768
      @jarcher7768 2 роки тому +6

      @@sapporoichiban3612 Cocos in Yokosuka is better than Sapporos, aho

    • @izabelreis5274
      @izabelreis5274 2 роки тому +10

      Unbiased?

    • @waynejacksonofficial
      @waynejacksonofficial 2 роки тому +11

      The Victors write History.

    • @koharumi1
      @koharumi1 2 роки тому +8

      Lol like it unbiased.
      The one where they speculate about America fighting the world ends with America winning.
      So some of the videos are very biased.

  • @aresef
    @aresef 2 роки тому +52

    Had the bombs never been dropped, Japan likely still would have surrendered. The Soviets' entry into the Pacific theater played more of a role in ending the war. That entry happened days after the bombs dropped. Faced with the Russians from the North and the Americans from the South, Japan had no choice but to surrender.
    Dropping the bombs was less about Japan and more a geopolitical move by the U.S. against the USSR.

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 2 роки тому +8

      A Nation that was extremely loyal, had a warriors culture and wasn't afraid of death, was afraid of comunisum makes no sense as an argument mate....
      What were they afraid of?
      They would all be dead and the comunist are putting there feet on there soil that was there's but now isn't.... How horrific... hahaha!
      They called for the death of 100million Japanese to the last man woman and child to fight, the bombs took away their ability to fight, all the soviets did was just adding more meat to the grinder, and obviously shorter campaign for the allies.
      A nation like the soviet wasn't in a good place after Germany surrendered they had lost 27million to 40million people of a population of 170 or so, and of that only 110million were ethnic Russians, they only had some 20,000 tank's left when the Japanese surrender and 30,000 aircraft, that was after a few months of no losses.
      The soviets joining the war was a factor but it was in no way shape or from the causes of the Japanese surrender, the allies or America said it would be unconditional surrender yet they didn't keep that, they made concessions that's why the Japanese surrendered and face a completely different approach then the German's did, look at the war crimes in comparison to Germany The Japanese got of with a fraction of what Germany did and most importantly to the Japanese they keeped there emperor.

    • @idontknowwhatmypfpis1918
      @idontknowwhatmypfpis1918 2 роки тому +1

      @@brianlong2334 what?

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 2 роки тому +6

      @@idontknowwhatmypfpis1918 Just pointing out the problem with this assumption that the Japanese would have surrendered without the bombs getting dropped, and it was more about the soviet entry into the war which makes no sense as an argument.
      No nation today or before was like the Japanese in ww2, about 2 to 3million Japanese military personnel died in ww2 and only some 20,000 to 50,000 were taken as POWs befor the war ended.
      A nation like America lost some 400,000 men in ww2 and over 120,000 were taken as POWs.
      The Japanese fought for a peace deal they got one so they made peace, the soviet entry into the war was a consideration but it was in no way shape or form the reason they did, even if the Russians invaded one of the Japanese home islands like they planed with American lend-lease ships it only had a population of 3million, it was the lest important home island, not to mention the lend-lease ship's hadn't been delivered only about half were available.

    • @isaiah5851
      @isaiah5851 2 роки тому +2

      nah I woulda stopped it

    • @wilberwhateley7569
      @wilberwhateley7569 2 роки тому +4

      Bingo! All this talk about how the U.S. “had no choice” is merely a post facto justification for the demonstration of a weapon - one intended to intimidate the Soviets. With the Japanese largely cut off from industrial resources and their war machine was running on fumes: a simple blockade would have been sufficient to counter the Japanese fleet (what’s left of it, anyway…) and deprive them of the means to launch any new offensives - no invasions or atom bombs required.

  • @-WorldatWar
    @-WorldatWar 2 роки тому +25

    Ok I would just like to note that at this point in time most japanese civilians where gearing up with make shift weapons and a land invasion would have been devestating for all sides. And they didn't surrender because of the bombs. The surrinderd because of the Russians. They thought that if they didn't surrender to amarica the Russians would come in and crush them. In their minds they were choosing the lesser of two evils.

    • @-WorldatWar
      @-WorldatWar 2 роки тому +7

      @@emmw7794 no. the Russians had just taken all of the japanese Teratory on mainland aisa and were well with in range of sending ships to invade Japan. The japanese dident fear an American invasion. They saw that as survivable but that thought the Russians would invade them first and force communism on them.

    • @autarchyan5426
      @autarchyan5426 2 роки тому

      Russia was the real reason Japan surrendered. Only (ignorant) americans think nukes were the reason lol

    • @-WorldatWar
      @-WorldatWar 2 роки тому

      @@autarchyan5426 Hey. I am an American

    • @autarchyan5426
      @autarchyan5426 2 роки тому

      @@-WorldatWar I said "ignorant" americans indeed. I did not say every american is ignorant. There are ignorants in every country. Pay attention to words bro

    • @-WorldatWar
      @-WorldatWar 2 роки тому

      sorry

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 2 роки тому +40

    I've read the translated transcript of the last Imperial General Staff meeting before the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. Japan was literally prepared to fight to the death of every last Japanese. God knows how many millions would have died. Truman did the right thing as hard as it is to see it 75+ years later.

    • @chandrakantsingh5605
      @chandrakantsingh5605 2 роки тому +2

      How ironic it is that USA braggs about world peace and at the same time want dictatorship for themselves in the world

    • @gallaugal9099
      @gallaugal9099 2 роки тому +8

      @@chandrakantsingh5605 ? Dictatorship? Tell me why you’re on an American platform with your own functioning government. Tell me why the UN is a thing. And tell me how China was communist for a quarter century when they held no threat to the US.

    • @chandrakantsingh5605
      @chandrakantsingh5605 2 роки тому +1

      @@gallaugal9099 firstly sir please check how "us platform" created this monopoly and secondly we are talking about this bombing and it is being justified.
      About china sir it's people choice weather they like communism or not neither I nor u have this right

    • @Romanov117
      @Romanov117 2 роки тому +6

      @@chandrakantsingh5605 It’s interesting to see that you learned kind revisionism in history.
      If you were Japanese who live in the Mid-1930’s and enlisted to the IJA, you were transferred to your unit in Nanjing, do you accept the orders from your superior officer?

    • @chandrakantsingh5605
      @chandrakantsingh5605 2 роки тому +1

      @@Romanov117 Brother please understand what I am saying and about whom I am saying please

  • @Stxrmyyyy
    @Stxrmyyyy 2 роки тому +39

    Knocked some sense into them literally

    • @Kyuubey0406
      @Kyuubey0406 2 роки тому +12

      bombed some sense into em

    • @stung39
      @stung39 2 роки тому +4

      they finally came back to reality

    • @varadsawant8870
      @varadsawant8870 2 роки тому +4

      @@briondalion oh there goes rabbit, he choked

    • @MisterGoodDad
      @MisterGoodDad 2 роки тому +2

      @@varadsawant8870 He's so mad but he WON'T

    • @varadsawant8870
      @varadsawant8870 2 роки тому +2

      @@MisterGoodDad give up that easy, no

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 роки тому +38

    To really understand this you can just start watching before the 9 minute mark. The atom bombs were dropped on Japan but primarily aimed at Stalin; the USA wanted to the USSR to know we wouldn't allow them to spread communism around the world. American leaders also weren't willing to allow Stalin to occupy or partition Japan.

    • @healermusic4734
      @healermusic4734 2 роки тому +1

      Don't make things up

    • @wumps-gaming
      @wumps-gaming 2 роки тому +11

      @@healermusic4734 what's wrong little girl? Reality doesn't fit into your opinion?

    • @ricefarmerjawsh7653
      @ricefarmerjawsh7653 2 роки тому

      @@wumps-gaming that's completely false the bombs had nothing to do with Stalin

    • @wumps-gaming
      @wumps-gaming 2 роки тому +1

      @@ricefarmerjawsh7653 they were to show Stalin what we were Capable of. So yeah in a way they were aimed at Stalin

    • @cuba129
      @cuba129 2 роки тому

      @@ricefarmerjawsh7653 im pretty sure thats true

  • @ThePikminCaptain
    @ThePikminCaptain 2 роки тому +3

    0:33 Japan did send terms of conditional surrender that term was the emperor would stay however the Allies rejected it

  • @MAsadullah4
    @MAsadullah4 2 роки тому +17

    How you are trying to justify those nuclear attacks is just so amazing. I love you for the talent that you posses! Amazed.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 2 роки тому +5

      what you mean trying to ?? the only alternative was a ground invasion of Japan that would have cost 1 million US Soldiers and probably 5-15 million Japanese people and another bad thing is you probably have Russia invading the North of Japan then you would have Russian Occupied Japan

    • @nitro2525k
      @nitro2525k 2 роки тому +4

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 Japan's surrender was determined by the Soviet invasion of Japan before dawn on August 9. The Soviet Union has a treaty with Japan, and Japan has requested the Soviet Union to mediate peace, but with the participation of the Soviet Union, that possibility has disappeared.
      The historical fact is that the surrender of Japan was decided in a place unrelated to the atomic bomb.

  • @redheadedpsycho4566
    @redheadedpsycho4566 2 роки тому +26

    7:43 it's not about winning the war or whose weapons are the strongest. it's about standing up for your country

  • @gratefuldead4605
    @gratefuldead4605 Рік тому +4

    My grandfather worked in the motorpool in WW2 and he thought he had an easy job until after picking up bodies after the firebombings and he always asked why had to drop the nukes but he could have never had known all of this.

  • @donaldgrant9067
    @donaldgrant9067 2 роки тому +18

    So if you think about it if the bomb hadn't been invented and dropped on Japan, but was built by Russia and the US, they would have most likely been used on both countries. Interesting thought.

  • @gpd6760
    @gpd6760 2 роки тому +15

    I wrote an essay about this years ago. Basically agreeing with the use of the bomb for those exact reasons you stated. Very sad and unfortunate circumstances that took place during those years.

  • @hoffenwurdig1356
    @hoffenwurdig1356 10 місяців тому +1

    "If your arms are broken, fight with your feet.
    If your feet are broken, fight with your teeth.
    And if there is no breath left in your body, fight with your ghost.”
    Sakurai Tokutarō
    Major General, Imperial Japanese Army, Burma

  • @ProfPoindexter1968
    @ProfPoindexter1968 2 роки тому +15

    Every discussion of nuclear warfare ignores the true extent of the so-called "Cold" War. As a soldier in 1969-1970, I personally pushed the firing button to launch missiles with "tactical" thermonuclear warheads at Soviet bombers three times, later aborting each launch sequence with mere seconds to spare. These were neither training simulations, war games, nor accidents, but actual nuclear launches, approved under orders of US presidents Johnson and Nixon. These launches were done to stop Soviet strategic bombers that were making real bombing runs on American bases, using tactics only appropriate for nuclear bombs. Every time, the Soviet pilots only broke off their attacks when they saw our missiles preparing to launch. Other soldiers have told me of similar experiences. The "Cold" War was the most badly-named war in history. Citizens of all nations deserve to know the truth.

  • @notrichaf9071
    @notrichaf9071 2 роки тому +81

    only 1 in 9 kamikaze pilots ever reach their target. while they were very destructive they were losing a lot of pilots further losing air power after those suicide attacks.

    • @zackfox5222
      @zackfox5222 2 роки тому +5

      The main reason Japan ended up losing air superiority was because all of their veteran pilots were dying in those kamikaze attacks. It's hard to argue the "zero's" effectiveness against the much slower and heavier allied aircraft. In a lot of weird ways, WWII ended because of miscalculations made by Axis powers...not to say had they not made those mistakes that the Allies wouldn't have still won, but the war would have went on for much longer and caused way more destruction globally.

    • @phillip7731
      @phillip7731 2 роки тому +9

      Japan had almost no fuel left and Kamikaze attacks usually lost less men with more destruction than regular attacks. The statement that they were horrible but effective is definitively correct.

    • @theenclave4981
      @theenclave4981 2 роки тому +4

      Your average kamikaze pilot was barely trained to fly an aircraft, a lot of them were volunteers with no previous military experience. The veteran Japanese pilots were typically used as escorts for the kamikazes.

    • @jektopi
      @jektopi 2 роки тому +3

      @@zackfox5222 By the time the Kamikaze tactics were employed, the Japanese pretty much were running out of use for their experienced pilots anyway. They were very low on fuel and raw material to make and run those planes. Experienced pilots or rookies, it mattered very little.

    • @user-pn3im5sm7k
      @user-pn3im5sm7k 2 роки тому

      Is there proof of this figure?

  • @IvMaxixvI
    @IvMaxixvI 2 роки тому +5

    I love how good the animations look ☺

  • @paulrouth5997
    @paulrouth5997 2 роки тому +12

    When I was going to Santa Ana College (community college) the first time (late 70's) Dr. Christian was teaching Philosophy class and had put together a compendium of philosophies shown in varied ways. One was a letter written home by a young kamikaze pilot to his parents; two lines in the letter I will never forget, understanding an universally shared human archetype. 'Cherry blossoms glisten as they open and fall'. Amen.

    • @meetbarkade1389
      @meetbarkade1389 2 роки тому

      China 15 Billion
      Japan 15 Billion
      Korea 15 Billion
      Manchu 15 Billion
      Cantonese 15 Billion
      Taiwanese 15 Billion
      Mongol 15 Billion
      British 15 Billion
      French 15 Billion
      German 15 Billion
      Spainsh 15 Billion
      Portuguese 15 Billion
      Russian 15 Billion

    • @saccorhytus
      @saccorhytus 7 місяців тому

      @@meetbarkade1389huh?

  • @paras11sharma
    @paras11sharma Рік тому

    Brilliant commentary on the happenings in the world War, hope these destructive wars never happen

  • @cmndrkool321
    @cmndrkool321 2 роки тому +3

    Japan would have still lost the war, but they would have fought to the last standing soldier backed into a corner. They were truly the most formidable force America has faced.

  • @ibot2157
    @ibot2157 2 роки тому +3

    Basically to win a war against some type of enemies you need to be willing to be ruthless .

  • @Echo4Sierra4160
    @Echo4Sierra4160 2 роки тому +10

    We'd have invaded mainland Japan... Operation Downfall. We're still awarding purple hearts we ordered for that invasion but the end result would've been the same.
    And we actually did send a threat to Japan before dropping the bombs... "We call upon the government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional surrender of all Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate assurances of their good faith in such action. The alternative for Japan is prompt and utter destruction."

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 2 роки тому +3

      That's the really scary thing is how 76 years after the Atomic Bombings America is still using the Purple Hearts that were prepared for a ground invasion of Japan one of those Purple Hearts was awarded to a Nam veteran my father used to work for

    • @Echo4Sierra4160
      @Echo4Sierra4160 2 роки тому

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 We knew how the Japanese fought at that point. We'd be fighting all the civilians too

  • @hayseed5467
    @hayseed5467 2 роки тому +19

    Two ways to end a war: Win it or lose it. When you're drawn into war, you set out to win, i.e. destroy the enemy's ability or will to fight. You do it as quickly as possible, so you use every tool at your disposal. It saves lives on both sides. At least that's the way it used to be. Now, we negotiate. And the wars never end.

    • @ardtob
      @ardtob 2 роки тому +2

      Duh. Thing is, there's this thing called weapons of mass destruction that literally could end our world civilization. The option of "all in gamble" is forbidden. Unless you want mankind to extinct.

    • @stephengrinkley9889
      @stephengrinkley9889 2 роки тому

      Exactly!

    • @banjo3960
      @banjo3960 2 роки тому

      what about if its a tie? no land exchange, no war reparations, just a simple white peace, like the war of 1812

    • @MetaKnight964
      @MetaKnight964 Рік тому

      Wars end all the time, educate yourself.

    • @hayseed5467
      @hayseed5467 Рік тому

      @@MetaKnight964 Indeed. In fact, some of them end more than once.

  • @thomasesser856
    @thomasesser856 2 роки тому +12

    What they don't tell you is a week before the atomic bomb was dropped, one of the last aircrews that were shot down were cut up live as a scientific experiment in front of people with no pain killers for hours until they were dead. So yes the bomb needed to be dropped.

    • @apax2901
      @apax2901 2 роки тому +2

      So you really weight lives of a "couple" soliders over the lives of 100.000 Civilians?
      That's messed up my guy

    • @daveythekid
      @daveythekid 2 роки тому +3

      @@apax2901 torturing US troops is a war crime. winning the war is not a crime and they saved 100,000s more lives in doing so. the end absolutely justified the means, my guy.

    • @rarescevei8268
      @rarescevei8268 2 роки тому

      @@daveythekid Just because it is a war crime does not mean it is better.

  • @nchiley
    @nchiley 2 роки тому +21

    Japan's military was aware of the possibility of a nuclear weapon, understood the monumental effort it would take to create, and if it were created, how few there would be because of the difficulty of enrichment. this was all considered before Pearl Harbor. Don't make out like Japan had no idea what was in store for them. They had considered it, and were not deterred.

    • @panzerkiller4847
      @panzerkiller4847 2 роки тому +5

      Not to mention that the Soviets had declared war on Japan and had completely overrun Manchuria. The Japanese feared one thing the most above all else; the Communists. They knew that should the Communist land on the Japanese mainland, they would inflect a terrible cost on the Japanese and would have certainly destroyed Japanese society. The Soviets would have killed the Emperor, would have destroyed the old societal systems and the Japanese also knew that the Soviets would not be deterred by the losses they would suffer.

    • @stefchris859
      @stefchris859 2 роки тому +3

      @@panzerkiller4847 the that no naval power to cross the sea, only usa could land in the mainland and would still suffer million loses

    • @archravenineteenseventeen
      @archravenineteenseventeen Рік тому

      @@stefchris859 *laughs in Korea hopping*

  • @emceehamma3693
    @emceehamma3693 2 роки тому +23

    If you like this topic, check out the bat bomb (bomb that literally carried bats), and pigeon guided bombs that we were working on. Crazy stuff

  • @pckkaboo6800
    @pckkaboo6800 2 роки тому +21

    Dropping the bombs = Japan we have today
    Not dropping the bombs = probably result in 50/50 japanese mainland territory split between Soviet & Americans

    • @axeldashaar
      @axeldashaar 2 роки тому +2

      Till today? unlikely. Look at Germany.

    • @pckkaboo6800
      @pckkaboo6800 2 роки тому +2

      @@axeldashaar Yeah~ who would've thought the Soviet Union Bloc collapsed 😂 perhaps should say.. eventually will collapse..

    • @Emigdiosback
      @Emigdiosback 2 роки тому +2

      @@axeldashaar Look at Korea.

    • @axeldashaar
      @axeldashaar 2 роки тому

      @@Emigdiosback Korea is still divided because North Korea invaded South Korea. Which is largely due to the fact that Korea was not a separate country but a colony long before World War II. Which finally makes the country's efforts more vigorous, but also makes it more difficult because there was no general consensus in the country at the time. This was admittedly encouraged by the occupier's imposed ideals, but the aggression came from Kim Il-Sung. Kim Il-Sung urged Stalin to allow and support the incursion. Another point is the return of ethnic Koreans from the Soviet Union to North Korea, which further strengthened communism there and thus widened the gap between the partial countries. Overall, Japan's theoretical situation would be more comparable to Germany than to its colony of Korea, also because it was an initial force in the war. The end of the Soviet Union at the latest would probably have led to agreement. On the one hand, because Japan was less inclined to the USA and the western world than to the Soviet Union, China and the Eastern bloc and on the other hand, because in the event of a war after the fall of the Soviet Union, the former occupied area of ​​the West would have been vastly superior due to its support .

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 2 роки тому +1

      Soviets didn't have the proper equipment to invade Japan. Even the Japanese by the time of surrender had a better navy than the Soviers.

  • @BigZ-il5hg
    @BigZ-il5hg 2 роки тому +4

    So you telling me that millions of civilians were killed by the bombing is okay but the kamakazie way is awful 😂

  • @--46200
    @--46200 2 роки тому +1

    We had to have an entire debate on this exact topic in history class today and then you upload this 4 hours later

  • @DUHLAZYKIDZ
    @DUHLAZYKIDZ 2 роки тому +1

    The end was good. Great job 👏🏽

  • @nitro2525k
    @nitro2525k 2 роки тому +35

    Japan's surrender was determined by the Soviet invasion of Japan before dawn on August 9. The Soviet Union has a treaty with Japan, and Japan has requested the Soviet Union to mediate peace, but with the participation of the Soviet Union, that possibility has disappeared.
    The historical fact is that the surrender of Japan was decided in a place unrelated to the atomic bomb.

    • @pspsppsps8660
      @pspsppsps8660 2 роки тому +2

      you're correct that the Japanese surrendered to the soviets and that's when the war fully ended but that's not the full story after the first bomb was dropped on Nagasaki a few of the officers we're already thinking about surrendering and when the 2nd one dropped is when the emperor announced its defeat saying that the war hasn't necessarily shifted to Japan's favor but some of the officers still wanted to keep fighting saying that they already had more destruction thrown at them by air raids and fire bombings and that the nukes were just the same as those and then after the first bomb took place Russia declared war on Japan and invaded Japanese held manchuria in an effort to convince the officers who were still fighting the emperor said instead that they are no surrendering due to soviet involvement in the war in an effort to convince those officers to stop fighting and it worked.

    • @nitro2525k
      @nitro2525k 2 роки тому +6

      @@pspsppsps8660 I don't understand what you mean.
      What I'm saying is that there is no causal link between the atomic bomb and Japan's surrender to the Allies.

    • @maximaldinotrap
      @maximaldinotrap 2 роки тому +1

      @@nitro2525k The bombs sure helped. Would you want to continue fighting a force with that capability?

    • @nitro2525k
      @nitro2525k 2 роки тому +2

      @@maximaldinotrap t was after the end of the war that Japan understood the cruelty of the atomic bomb. It took time to understand the tragedy after the A-bomb survivors and the aftereffects of the A-bomb survivors, and Japan surrendered before understanding the demonic nature of the bomb.

    • @averagejoe112
      @averagejoe112 2 роки тому +2

      Russian bots working overtime

  • @affy5337
    @affy5337 2 роки тому +23

    Always remember, there is a world where "Never gonna give you up" was the national anthem.

  • @OneEyedSnakes
    @OneEyedSnakes 2 роки тому +18

    I think dropping the atomic bombs back then was the best time to do it, we got to see the effects and they probably weren’t as strong as they could be now. I remember seeing the Beirut explosion that happened not too long ago and man I couldn’t imagine the footage we would see on the ground today.

    • @mirak3050
      @mirak3050 2 роки тому +2

      beirut explosion was not an atomic bomb.

    • @OneEyedSnakes
      @OneEyedSnakes 2 роки тому

      @@mirak3050 I know I’m saying I personally have seen the Beirut explosion and couldn’t imagine what an atomic bomb would do and the destruction we would see since we have Cameras everywhere now

  • @BlueDreamGaming
    @BlueDreamGaming Рік тому +1

    Small correction - Only about 18.6 percent of these suicide planes hit their targets or caused damaging near misses. This doesn't mean they were not dangerous and highly effective - rather it highlights the sadness ever more - these pilots went to their deaths and didn't even achieve any objective in most cases - how futile and depressing. I think it is fair to say that with the combined effort of the two superpowers on their doorstep another alternative could have been reached that did not result in more bloodshed. In my opinion it does seem that the US wanted to underscore some point to their 'ally' the USSR.

  • @brad3628
    @brad3628 6 місяців тому

    It's "conscience", not "conscious"
    And yet, "intransigent" was spot-on

  • @jf6095
    @jf6095 2 роки тому +5

    If this happened then I wouldn't had discovered anime.

    • @spiritmatter1553
      @spiritmatter1553 2 роки тому +1

      Which is the important thing.

    • @apiy2462
      @apiy2462 2 роки тому

      @@spiritmatter1553 Yea

    • @apiy2462
      @apiy2462 2 роки тому

      @@spiritmatter1553 anime suc

  • @sakamotoverge3194
    @sakamotoverge3194 2 роки тому +4

    Short answer : No anime would be made.

  • @juker5375
    @juker5375 2 роки тому +12

    Japan is pretty cool

    • @GCeara-mh5it
      @GCeara-mh5it 2 роки тому +1

      Now it is, but certainly not in the 1940s.

    • @juker5375
      @juker5375 2 роки тому

      @@GCeara-mh5it yeah

  • @kerwinbrown4180
    @kerwinbrown4180 2 роки тому +1

    No Godzilla! That is not acceptable.😁

  • @emancoy
    @emancoy 2 роки тому +1

    Those nukes created the first post apocalyptic country that produced Nintendo, anime and Godzilla

  • @antilm1
    @antilm1 2 роки тому +4

    If this man would be our history teacher we would be the second Einsteins……………..

  • @Furytear
    @Furytear 2 роки тому +7

    Here's an even better "what if" for ya: what if Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbor and the Axis Powers had tried to win against Russia and the UK first?
    It's an interesting hypothetical about how the war actually would have played out, would the Russians and the Brits have held out? Or would they have fallen? How would the axis powers have conducted a war against an isolated but distant US mainland?
    THAT would be an interesting hypothetical.

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 2 роки тому +1

      I would argue that Russians would have collapsed from a two front war.
      The Japanese planed invasion of Siberia and part's of Mongolia was cancelled on the 9th of August 1941, the usa oil embargo was on the 1st of August, the Japanese had been building up its forces in Manchuria for quite some time the Russians had actually seen the Japanese build up and responded with there own.
      The problem is the reality was the Japanese were extremely exposed if they when to war with Russia they didn't have the oil to fight alone, hence the Japanese whent to the Dutch East Indies, the attack on pearl harbour was to keep America away for as long as possible, the Japanese thought worst cases the American would be back in 6 months after such an attack but more realistic was 1 year, this would give the Japanese time to prepare however this didn't happen.
      The reality was that the Japanese were in contact with the USA leading up to the war the USA threatening the Japanese, that If they whent after the British and or dutch then America would declare war, the Japanese took it seriously, there were multiple messages sent between the Japanese government and the Americans before the Japanese attack pearl harbour, the American last reply was basically that the Japanese would have to give up all of it's territories out side the 4 main islands, the Japanese, counter offer was to leave China however excluding Manchuria and Korea, even so far as to hand over the other parts to America in exchange basically for oil, they also ask for a non-aggression pack with the USA and basically to hlep them get one with the British and Dutch, yet the Americans reply with, they could not guarantee that the USA wouldn't be at war with that Japanese in the future so no non-aggression could be signed, the Japanese navy left for pearl harbour the same day as this reply.
      There is also the discussion the American government had about cutting of Japanese oil in 1940 but it was voted against as they thought the Japanese would react in a declaration of war, this was why pearl harbour was such a big deal they believe that the Japanese would declare war not surprise attack, however it had a better effect this way as the American public went from overwhelming to keep out of the war to the opposite.

    • @Furytear
      @Furytear 2 роки тому

      @@brianlong2334 Thank you for the well thought out analysis. So if the Axis Powers had defeated Russia then it would only have been a matter of time before they would have had control over the entire continent.
      One has to wonder if the United States would have been agreeable to some sort of treaty with them as they had a population who war was not a popular option for. Even if they still would not agree to any kind of treaties it's an interesting hypothetical thinking about how a war between the axis powers and an isolated USA would have been waged. Attacking the far away territories is logistically completely different than attacking the mainland US. I mean they could have attempted to launch an attack out of Alaska but they'd either need the cooperation of Canada or they'd end up fighting them first and the US population would probably not be as staunchly opposed to war once it began right next door instead of across the world from them.

    • @aquatic4760
      @aquatic4760 2 роки тому

      The thing is. Logic plays in. Germany would have to divide up Russia rather quickly into their own soverign states at that point. Afterall, Germany wanted to control the entire contient of Europe but couldn't realize how horrible of an idea it was. You cannot control the Russian people with ease.
      There's also the fact that a mainland invasion of the North American continent is very impractical. German bombers couldn't reach there and the US Navy would've still been a powerhouse if Pearl Harbor didn't happen. Well, even then their Navy was a powerhouse.

    • @hiheyxd
      @hiheyxd Рік тому

      Regardless the US will end up in war with Soviets
      The Capitalism vs Communism

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 2 роки тому +27

    Hiroshima was chosen because it was a major industrial production location even that late in the war. Nagasaki was a secondary target on the day of the second bombing, and it, along with the primary target which was canceled due to weather, were still major industrial production sites. So, no: It WASN'T all about, "killing women, children, and old people".

    • @Sakura-jf3ll
      @Sakura-jf3ll 2 роки тому +6

      There were still men, women, and children but I see your point. The US was trying to hit Japan where it would hurt them the most. Unfortunately, innocent bystanders were just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    • @MoS910
      @MoS910 2 роки тому +8

      Not enough reason even to drop those bomb, people are not idiot and know what exactly in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
      Killing civilians still a crime.

    • @cr33d4
      @cr33d4 2 роки тому +11

      That was WWII from start to finish... On ALL sides. Japan also had a habit of putting their military and industrial targets in the middle of population centers, even in the middle of neighborhoods in an attempt to use the civilians as human shields.@@MoS910

    • @Rhyghar
      @Rhyghar 2 роки тому +4

      America has more blood on their hands than any other nation. Blood of innocent Japanese, Arabs, Vietnamese, Afghans

    • @Cirithungul
      @Cirithungul 2 роки тому +4

      They were civilian targets...coward targets. Unlike the military target japan hit.

  • @herpagondaderpalice
    @herpagondaderpalice 2 роки тому

    It’s amazing how many historical inaccuracies are in this video

  • @odinisgod4577
    @odinisgod4577 2 роки тому +1

    💪USA!!!!!! those bombs were beautiful.

  • @Loki-Fenrir
    @Loki-Fenrir 2 роки тому +4

    Can you do next: When Germany had Japan and Russia fight in the Russo-Japanese war, if Russia won instead of Japan, then would Germany had Russia join the Axis and Japan join the Allies.

    • @rarescevei8268
      @rarescevei8268 2 роки тому

      Russia offered to join the axis a few days before barbarossa so no

  • @nathanhough8156
    @nathanhough8156 2 роки тому +8

    An accurate and unbiased video on the atomic bombings
    Mostly accurate art
    A few things I didn't know about
    Great work guys

  • @iamaloafofbread8926
    @iamaloafofbread8926 2 роки тому +7

    Well, 2,000,000 - 10,000,000 Japanese and atleast 500,000 American soilders would die just on an estimate.

    • @thegodfather768
      @thegodfather768 2 роки тому +2

      Half a million Americans doubt it under 100

    • @user-pn3im5sm7k
      @user-pn3im5sm7k 2 роки тому

      Nah Japan was defeating Americans and British with far inferior numbers while being on the offensive. Even when the Americans invaded Iwo Jima with 120,000 Marines, hundreds of ships and planes just to displace an Island of 20,000 Japanese troops - Americans lost more personnel: 24,000.
      Thats with zero support from air and sea for Japan by the way. Mainland Japan had heavy tanks and plenty aircraft.
      Estimates of casualties are clearly bias and in favor of allies, from Allied historians. It would more than likely be a war of attrition and guerilla, which the Japanese were experts at, and none of the allies were.
      It'd be a 10x more deadly Vietnam. Allied casualties would for sure exceed those of the entrenched Japanese.

    • @donavanrupard6219
      @donavanrupard6219 2 роки тому

      @@user-pn3im5sm7k that’s because defending a position is going to be easier than attacking and in open naval warfare even outnumbered the United States crippled the Japanese ability to carry out offensive operations in the pacific so no it’s not Japanese superiority it’s purely just fanaticism and defending till your last breath instead of being rational

    • @donavanrupard6219
      @donavanrupard6219 2 роки тому

      @@user-pn3im5sm7k also mainland japan couldn’t fuel their tanks and didn’t have enough fuel for their planes which is how the US had total air superiority over the Japanese homeland

    • @user-pn3im5sm7k
      @user-pn3im5sm7k 2 роки тому

      @@donavanrupard6219 If I'm not mistaken, they had reserves in place for the jets, planes, and tanks on the mainland for the impending invasion. Keep in mind they didn't need much of it, as many would serve as artillery or kamikaze units.

  • @Fungryblockman
    @Fungryblockman 2 роки тому +2

    I’m sad how many people died but the bomb is the only reason Japan is not violent and now a very healthy country back then Japan had a sever lack of food and stuff. Japan made very bad decision back then and I really think they should’ve just surrendered instead of getting many killed .

  • @phantomraul801
    @phantomraul801 2 роки тому +2

    “What if Japan was never hit by nuclear bombs?”
    Me: “We wouldn’t have the birthplace of anime...”

  • @norliegh
    @norliegh 2 роки тому +8

    I admire the courage & sheer will of the people in Japan.

    • @Donald_Here
      @Donald_Here 2 роки тому +2

      I think the Chinese's witnesses of japan's atrocities with babies, kids, teens, adults, elder, has something to comment about that.

  • @ivankuzmanovic9922
    @ivankuzmanovic9922 2 роки тому +3

    Thats my friends how homeland is defended, to the last man, women, and Child, and with pride while doing so, all of us could learn few good things from imperial Japan, but we can still learn more things on terrible side of scale...

  • @droth1031
    @droth1031 2 роки тому +24

    There's an author, Harry Turtledove, who writes a lot of historical fiction novels, sort of a "What If?..." for our world. One of his series was about Japan successfully attacking Pearl Harbor and overthrowing the American forces stationed there.
    He also has a series about the Confederacy seceding from the United States. Interesting author, regardless of which book you read first!

    • @stevetheheadcrab7110
      @stevetheheadcrab7110 2 роки тому

      I agree with interesting.
      But not necessarily good.
      I have read a few of his books and I swear to god most of them are mind mumblingly boring outside of short sums up.

    • @yodorob
      @yodorob Рік тому +1

      He shares the same birthday (June 14) as me, as well as a love of alternate history.

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard 2 роки тому

    The victors of a war are always the good guys, and never commit war crimes.

  • @calmcalamity9456
    @calmcalamity9456 2 роки тому +1

    Best thumbnail

  • @mustafaescobar9376
    @mustafaescobar9376 2 роки тому +5

    What would happen if the earth was uninhabited for a million years

  • @coolnegative
    @coolnegative 2 роки тому +63

    So weird! I was literally wondering about this over the last several days. Things like, would Japan have ever become so prosperous if we hadn't bombed them? Something else that is rarely mentioned is the fact that warning pamphlets were dropped in a blanket effort to warn citizens to leave the cities before the nukes were dropped.

    • @bigdick4090ti
      @bigdick4090ti 2 роки тому +2

      Probably yeah

    • @Iodotoluene
      @Iodotoluene 2 роки тому +14

      But they weren’t believed. Nobody thought a single bomb would destroy an entire city. It was unfathomable

    • @ferbiously
      @ferbiously 2 роки тому +4

      Its like people saying aliens would come take their home,no one believes such bllsht

    • @coolnegative
      @coolnegative 2 роки тому +18

      @@Iodotoluene true, but that doesn't negate the fact that America tried. Even though it was a terrible thing, people act like we were heartless.......its no less than other powers would have done to us, and by the sounds of it, Japan would not have blinked if they could have hit us with the same first.

    • @coolnegative
      @coolnegative 2 роки тому +6

      @@ferbiously I just wish that more people would acknowledge that we tried and did not care about the collateral damage.

  • @willys2747
    @willys2747 2 роки тому +14

    Japan wasn’t afraid of the A-bomb. It was the Soviet entry into the war which convinced them to surrender.

    • @nwigchert10
      @nwigchert10 2 роки тому +1

      Not really, sure it contributed but by that time it was borderline irrelevant.

    • @MikeHit619
      @MikeHit619 2 роки тому

      Nice try Aussie

    • @nitro2525k
      @nitro2525k 2 роки тому +1

      @@nwigchert10 Japan's surrender was determined by the Soviet invasion of Japan before dawn on August 9. The Soviet Union has a treaty with Japan, and Japan has requested the Soviet Union to mediate peace, but with the participation of the Soviet Union, that possibility has disappeared.
      The historical fact is that the surrender of Japan was decided in a place unrelated to the atomic bomb.

    • @pspsppsps8660
      @pspsppsps8660 2 роки тому

      @@nitro2525k just because they surrendered to the soviets dosen't mean that the bombs are unrelated to it

  • @mantra2333
    @mantra2333 2 роки тому

    Awesome stuff

  • @Elysin_Youtube
    @Elysin_Youtube 2 роки тому +1

    If only the Emperor had more power, all he was just a ceremonial Emperor who didn't had any power as the General and admiral ruled Japan while telling the soldiers to die for the emperor who didn't wanted his people to die. Ironic

  • @DMDonahue
    @DMDonahue 2 роки тому +8

    We didn't do enough to the Japanese for their crimes against humanity. People see modern Japan and see them as some horrendous evil on innocent Japanese people, failing to acknowledge or perhaps even knowing about Nanking, or Unit 731, or the 25 million Chinese civilians. I see NO SHAME to be had in ending the war that way.

    • @GCeara-mh5it
      @GCeara-mh5it 2 роки тому +2

      Well said, many people haven't studied the history and only see the world through present eyes.

    • @georgeousthegorgeous
      @georgeousthegorgeous 2 роки тому +1

      it could've ended without bombs. japanese civilians didn't take part in it, but tbh I would execute whole japanese army after the war because they have shown inhuman cruelty. Ordinary japanese and navy didn't deserve all these bombings

    • @GCeara-mh5it
      @GCeara-mh5it 2 роки тому +2

      @@georgeousthegorgeous
      Japan was ready to drop the ultimate biological weapon onto Russian and American civilians.
      From their experiments from Unit 731, they developed bio weapons filled with infected fleas and plagues.
      With their plan of world conquest, it would have eventually ended up with the complete destruction of mankind.
      They were evil in a way mankind has never witnessed before.
      Sometimes war is necessary, for a better outcome.
      Now japan is one of the most civilised, developed, and financially successful country in the world.
      If they hadn't taken such a beating, we probably wouldn't be alive right now.

    • @freshfrozen7612
      @freshfrozen7612 2 роки тому +2

      @@georgeousthegorgeous if there was no bombs dropped, my country and several other asian country will still suffer under their colonization

  • @HoytJolly
    @HoytJolly 2 роки тому +3

    5:36 Hardly any more industrial targets to destroy? These cities were targeted in part because of their industrial capabilities. You should consider removing this inaccuracy.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 2 роки тому +16

    Interesting thing about the myth of the atomic bomb attacks ending the war...Because it is a myth. The deciding factor for Japanese really was the declaration of war against them by the Soviet Union and the threatened invasion of the Japanese home islands by Soviet troops, and their finite supplies of oil and petroleum. The Japanese knew that, unlike the Americans, who might lose the stomach for invasion if the casualties were high enough, Stalin would throw millions of Soviet lives away to conquer Japan, and it would cost him nothing.
    Now, as far as the atomic bomb attacks, the Japanese imperial command was singularly unimpressed by the destruction of a city by a single plane with a single bomb. They had seen the destruction of their cities by bombing from the air, and tactically, it made little difference to them how such devastation was accomplished, whether it came from one plane or from hundreds.
    However, in the end, the truly decisive factor was their dwindling supplies of oil and petroleum. They were soon going to be unable to fuel either their military or their production lines. The had hidden much of their industrial production in caves in the mountains, but their fuel reserves were not going to last long, and they had no way of obtaining more, since their sphere of influence was now limited to the home islands, and they were cut off from overseas imports of oil from Southeast Asia. It was only a matter of time.
    One more thing: The Kamikaze pilots were an enormous waste of men and material, with a success rate on average of less than 20% hitting their targets, far lower than the success rate of conventional attacks by Japanese pilots earlier in the war. It was a desperation move that, like most Hail Mary passes, failed miserably.

    • @testname2166
      @testname2166 2 роки тому +2

      Also WHAT A WASTE OF PLANES AND MEN

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 2 роки тому +1

    There’s a parallel universe where the bombs were never dropped and Japan still surrender.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 2 роки тому +1

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

  • @GThe-su9kl
    @GThe-su9kl 2 роки тому +14

    Except the nukes were "pretty useless" (if we except their role in the Cold War). Japan wanted to surrended for months before them, and their conditions were the same that the U.S. and U.K. asked, but they did not want to accept them right away because they thought that it would make them look politically weak in a reelection campaign. And Japan's surrender had much more to do with the U.S.S.R.'s entry in the war and their much greater success than expected (Japan had built a kind of "eastern Maginot" to block them, but it was barely a roadbump to the Red Army). As shown with the fact that the country was already destroyed from previous bombardments, the nukes did not have a real impact militarily. Meanwhile, the U.S.S.R.'s entry in the war made it clear to Japan that they could not hope to achieve a better peace deal by using them as intermediary (that was the plan Japan had pursued for months before their surrender).

    • @indokid2718
      @indokid2718 2 роки тому

      Considering the japanese military are super aggresive, they'll probably start a coup against the gov and not surrender

    • @GThe-su9kl
      @GThe-su9kl 2 роки тому

      @@indokid2718 1) It's pretty unlikely, considering that the Emperor had a status similar to that of a god, and thus the military would have been isolated in their own home; 2) even if the military did a coup, the country was destroyed and did not have any military capacity left. The Allies could simply sit around the island and wait for it to starve. This was the original plan, but it was not carried out because the new President of the U.S. felt that he should not collaborate more than necessary with the U.S.S.R.

    • @GThe-su9kl
      @GThe-su9kl 2 роки тому

      @@indokid2718 Besides, the nukes did nothing to "prevent a coup from the military", since it struck civilians, not military cibles.

    • @aquatic4760
      @aquatic4760 2 роки тому

      Rather not exactly. The nukes were another nail in the Rising Sun's coffin, the war from the USSR was the final nail. Japan was already extremely demoralized and the nuclear bombs certainly helped bringing their morale down even more. The fact that the USSR declared was showing the fact that if they did not surrender, they'd be facing both the USSR and the USA.

  • @RobertGreenwald
    @RobertGreenwald 2 роки тому +12

    Well said. I hate nuclear weapons and the fact that mankind can annihilate the world over petty squabbles. However, I do think it was better off for everyone that those two bombs were used, if not to prevent the deaths of millions more, then to show the world what those bombs could do so that no country would be tempted to use them as just another piece of their arsenal.

    • @GHOSBABYMARI22
      @GHOSBABYMARI22 2 роки тому +2

      If you start a war with a country they not gonna back down they gonna go all in maximum destruction they could have use the third bomb but they gave them a chance to surrender

    • @Shobbob894
      @Shobbob894 2 роки тому

      But you will look weak as a country and an easy target

    • @kimtv4437
      @kimtv4437 2 роки тому +1

      Dont hate nuclear weapons, its the only thing that make the world peacefull. Imagine a world with.out nuclear weapon?? Anytime a country can declare war because theyre not afraid of any weapon.

    • @RobertGreenwald
      @RobertGreenwald 2 роки тому

      I agree that the threat of mutually assured destruction has created a strange peace. In that way nuclear weapons have performed the only good they are capable of being. I thank God that Truman had enough sense to not allow MacArthur access to them in Korea as it would have set a precedent for casual wartime use.

    • @pspsppsps8660
      @pspsppsps8660 2 роки тому

      @@kimtv4437 i mean it's working out so far the threat of nukes from either side makes no one wanna risk being the first strike due to the opposing enemy retaliating, it's strange but with nukes we somehow didn't have a single world war for over 50 years

  • @fxfabric
    @fxfabric 2 роки тому +16

    The US indeed made a point by droping those bombs. Even knowing the scope of their destruction, they went a head to use it. So on what grounds does the US stand today to preach to Iran and North Korea not to attain nuclear weapons? You shouldnt have used it in the first place. Perhaps Russia too should use it and give the same excuse, that there would have been more casualties if it were not used.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 2 роки тому +3

      problem being at the time of the Atomic bombings the US was the only country who possessed such weapons now there is many countries i might miss some but this list includes
      America
      Russia
      China
      India
      Pakistan
      France
      UK
      North Korea
      Israel

    • @amilcarsafeca7629
      @amilcarsafeca7629 2 роки тому +4

      Typical of a warmonger to preach Nuclear possession during a time of peace as opposed to a time of world war.

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 2 роки тому +1

      Because today if somone drops a bomb the rule is everyone does, the term mutually assured destruction came out in the early 50s when there was basically only the USA and Soviet Union that had them or should I say had them in large numbers.
      The difference is less then 1million people died due to the two bombing yet tens of millions would have died at the lest in an invasion
      The USA was very reluctant to use it witch compared to other nations is actually a rarity, the Russians, Germans and even the British would have used such weapons on there enemy captain cities almost as soon as available, the USA didn't it thought about appropriate targets, even had a plan were they were to nuke the beaches on Japan before they invaded to save civilian population, back before they new about nuclear radiation.
      Most nations today don't use there bombs due to the fact the USA wouldn't just destroyers there nation it would wipe it out, only Russian and the USA have the ability to destroy the world, the rest of the world nuclear powers only really have enough for one nation or multiple smaller nation's.

    • @fxfabric
      @fxfabric 2 роки тому

      @@amilcarsafeca7629 I dont support war, I detest hypocricy manifested by the US. Whe the US kills civilians through its bombings, let it be Japan, or Syria, or Iraq or Lybia, it calls it collateral damage unintended. When other nations do the same while fighting terrorists, its called a genocide by the cnn and other western media. How is that fair? Oh, by the way just google for the number of civialian killed during the war against Ghadafi in Libya in 2011. the Pentagon officially says there were 0 civilian casualts, but did you know they droped 17000 bombs during the campagn? And there were no civillian casualties?😁 I call that hypocricy. Libya today droped from the richest nations in Africa to one of the poorest in the world. And then you call me war mongerer🤔

    • @fxfabric
      @fxfabric 2 роки тому

      @@brianlong2334 "They wanted to drop bombs on Japanese beaches😄😄😄" Do you even listen to yourself? Or did you know there was a third bomb planned to be droped on Tokyo if the govt didnt surrender? Bro, I aint against, you but You need to look at the world without bias. Why think Russia or Britain or France would drop that bomb? Stop justifying a war crime. You have been brain washed by western media that only the US and its allies wish peace for the world and other countries like Russia and China wish war. But you should use yr head sometimes. Believe me, apart from the US who takes war as a bussiness, spending 750 billion dollars on the millitary, no other country on earth will ever wish to go to war if everything can be solved through diplomacy. Take an example of the current crisis between Ukrain and Russia. Russia has the ability to wipe out Ukraine from the face of the Earth within 2 days without using nuclear weapons, but decided to continue in dialogue till they iron out their differences. Trust me, if it was the US in that position it would have attaked already. Take examples from Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yougoslavia, Afghanstan, and many more, dont even mention Vietnam and Korea, the list is long😁😁

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 2 роки тому

    I love your channel

  • @robertharris6092
    @robertharris6092 2 роки тому +2

    The japanese military literaly attempeted a coup after the emporer surrendered. If people think japan would surrender before an invasion theyre insane.

  • @agyakwakuananse4655
    @agyakwakuananse4655 2 роки тому +4

    There would've been more Allies casualties caused by the Japanese and almost every citizen in Japan would've probably been killed by the allies and the Western world. History of the WW2 would've been different from the one we know now.

  • @MrMike6519
    @MrMike6519 2 роки тому +3

    The Japanese officials were aware of the potential destructive force as they had their own atomic program although it was far behind the USA's program!

  • @Malouco
    @Malouco 2 роки тому +5

    Or…what if we targeted them better?
    A more strategic placement where military was affected while minimizing civilian deaths 🤔

  • @JiTiAr35
    @JiTiAr35 2 роки тому

    Thumbnail is amazing

  • @4evermilkman
    @4evermilkman 2 роки тому +1

    There wouldn't have been an infographical episode about man surviving 2 nuclear bombs :P

  • @Antonio-wc1db
    @Antonio-wc1db 2 роки тому +6

    3:45 you said the Japanese rarely missed their targets when conducting kamikaze attacks, but they actually hit their targets less than 20 percent of the time, not so accurate if ya ask me, but great vid besides that

    • @pspsppsps8660
      @pspsppsps8660 2 роки тому

      i think they just rounded it up to make it simpler since the actual number was 14% since while many ships sunk it was mostly due to the sheer number of pilots they sent most of the planes we're being shot down and the few lucky to hit a target sometimes didn't even sink the ship since they couldn't hit a vital part

  • @ccllrr424
    @ccllrr424 2 роки тому +9

    My Grandfather, who fought in the Pacific, stated that his best day in life was the dropping of those bombs. That saved him from having to do beach landing onto Japan. Realize that the sounds bad, but human mind set during war is completely different than future review of past events. It is impossible to take a persons feelings from the past and measure them in todays mentality and social settings.

    • @Rebel-cd6gc
      @Rebel-cd6gc 2 роки тому

      You my friend are correct. Who are we to possibly judge, when we didn't go through what your grandfather did?

    • @kaneidareyue7715
      @kaneidareyue7715 2 роки тому +1

      Millions more Chinese were also saved because of the bomb. My Grandfather lived because the Japanese gave up after the nuclear blast.

  • @danishmahfoz2988
    @danishmahfoz2988 2 роки тому +3

    ENOLA WHAT ?

  • @GrilledCheeseObamaSandwichMMMM
    @GrilledCheeseObamaSandwichMMMM 2 роки тому +1

    i just watched an anime clip yesterday on reddit about a normal day in japan, suddenly a very bright light appeared, it was a nuke that was dropped. the clip was so disturbing, it showed kids, dogs, old people, mothers, babies turning into black skeleton. it was so detailed that i almost puked.

  • @rsbandbj1
    @rsbandbj1 2 роки тому +1

    fun fact, US expected so many soldiers to be wounded we created tons of purple hearts. We are still using those supplies and still have tons left.

  • @jguest8609
    @jguest8609 2 роки тому +6

    Even numerous US officials like Eisenhower questioned how dropping nukes on Nagasaki and Hiroshima would end the war.
    Issues have been raised such as the timing which seems to out into question the validity of the claim. Like it was too short a time to give Japan time to surrender based on the atomic bombs.

    • @nitro2525k
      @nitro2525k 2 роки тому

      The historical fact is that the surrender of Japan was decided in a place unrelated to the atomic bomb.Participation in the Soviet Union decided to surrender.
      The atomic bomb only slaughtered girls and children.

    • @kh.sudipsingha8406
      @kh.sudipsingha8406 2 роки тому

      @@nitro2525k bro not atomic bomb you are telling nuclear bomb

    • @benprickett8894
      @benprickett8894 2 роки тому

      @@nitro2525k Do you actually believe that we dropped those bombs on purely civilian targets? If you do then you are severely misinformed. Hiroshima held the second army's headquarters which oversaw the defense of all of southern Japan. It had factories that proved their military with all manner of arms and provisions. This is all easily accessible information. Nagasaki was a major port and produced ordinance, ships and other military equipment. Please educate yourself further on this topic. And this is probably going to rub you the wrong way but in times of total war every single man woman and child is doing something to further aid the military of the nation they are a part of. They produce food, clothes, weapons and other arms. Their deaths while brutal and sad stop the further production of goods for the military.

    • @nitro2525k
      @nitro2525k 2 роки тому

      @@benprickett8894 As you say, the justification for dropping the atomic bomb is often heard, but the reality is nothing more than a slaughter aimed at women and children.

  • @VENKATESH1095
    @VENKATESH1095 2 роки тому +6

    Please do what if Germany won the war

  • @cmndblst8014
    @cmndblst8014 2 роки тому +4

    its not a mistake ✨ITS A MASTERPIECE✨

  • @nwigchert10
    @nwigchert10 2 роки тому

    Humanity can only be grateful that they were used to END a war, not START one.

  • @somestormcloakwithanarrowo4671
    @somestormcloakwithanarrowo4671 2 роки тому +2

    Japan in 1945:
    Emperor Hirohito: "How many teachers/generals/trainers do we still have left?"
    That's one thing a true leader would say