BambuLab answer about Tough PLA: "It is reported by lots of users that they did not see big difference of print quality between PLA tough and basic, and considering the cost performance, they prefer PLA basic. Therefore, it's a decision made based on the findings from the dev team, customer service team and the sales team. "
Seems to me that PLA Tough would be about the strongest PLA on the market, so I'm pretty surprised and disappointed that this was discontinued. I would think that properly marketed that would be a very popular filament. If you don't need high heat capability, functional prints would be pretty great with that. From many strength tests I've seen, PLA usually beats the so-called technical filaments like ABS and ASA and even PC, other than its brittleness. If they could overcome the brittleness it would be hard to beat PLA.
So basically they couldn't see the difference in application because the difference wasn't big enough to matter in people's use cases, creating a marketing issue.
I just bought an XC1. Purely a personal question. I’m overwhelmed by the choices. What is your favorite filaments? / must buy? They are currently on special. My only prerequisite is prints that don’t break easily. As I plan to prototype a few things, not super interested in printing junky type toys.
I love it when I can look at someone's Excel sheet and understand it immediately. Your testing and summary tell me you're an engineer (and probably a very good one).
Thank you so much for doing your own scientific testing and showing your process. Now if I run out of basic I will know to NOT switch to matte to build hooks or anything that takes load. This was very helpful!
Temperatures you asked in live chat: they are in excel table, all are default temperatures. The table will be uploaded soon, but you can see it in video too.
I just committed to a 2.5k order of xc1 and filaments. The filament world is overwhelming haha. I wanted CF spools due to their cool finish. Did you see the dark side to carbon fiber filament video on UA-cam. (Found it via a Reddit post). Wow😢
The look of silk filaments can be perfect for some applications, but the layer adhesion I have experienced across manufacturers is SO POOR that I will not use them anymore. I feel like it's better to use a stronger material and then paint it than to deal with the weakness in silk layer adhesion.
I gave those cali-dragons to my 5y old daughter. And guess which one she likes the best? Yep, the silk one, she don't care about the weak layer adhesion ;-)
I find glow in the dark filament is hit or miss when it comes to glowing. If you really want to see them glow use a UV light. I find that regular light from a bulb is just not enough to energize them. You need the sun or a UV light.
This is a comparison test, between these filaments. Minimalistic test models are with a reason: hook will give us info about combination tensile and bending. And I was curious about the layer adhesion with more realistic object with 2 walls and 20% infill, not solid inside. The detailed test will be done with my regular "old" test objects.
Has anyone seen the UA-cam video “the dark side to carbon fiber filament” that’s put me off ever trying it! So bad! 😢 I nearly filled my cart with spools of CF filament as I love the finish. That video converted me to never using it.
Yo dude breaking them with the same direction of the layers Is silly why would you do that? your more testing the adhesion than anything and these tests are inconclusive, any person worth their salt that is designing something for durability is going to use the grain to their advantage. Try again.
BambuLab answer about Tough PLA: "It is reported by lots of users that they did not see big difference of print quality between PLA tough and basic, and considering the cost performance, they prefer PLA basic. Therefore, it's a decision made based on the findings from the dev team, customer service team and the sales team. "
These users are clearly wrong :)
I had better results with pla tough, since it has better layer adhesion than pla basic
Seems to me that PLA Tough would be about the strongest PLA on the market, so I'm pretty surprised and disappointed that this was discontinued. I would think that properly marketed that would be a very popular filament. If you don't need high heat capability, functional prints would be pretty great with that. From many strength tests I've seen, PLA usually beats the so-called technical filaments like ABS and ASA and even PC, other than its brittleness. If they could overcome the brittleness it would be hard to beat PLA.
So basically they couldn't see the difference in application because the difference wasn't big enough to matter in people's use cases, creating a marketing issue.
Of course this happens 3 days after I ordered filament 🙃 Thanks for all the awesome testing you do!!!
I just bought an XC1. Purely a personal question. I’m overwhelmed by the choices. What is your favorite filaments? / must buy? They are currently on special.
My only prerequisite is prints that don’t break easily. As I plan to prototype a few things, not super interested in printing junky type toys.
Your videos are such a great source of information for us in the the 3D printing community. Thanks so much for doing this 🙌
Thank you, pity that YT algorithm don't share your opinion, this video will stuck on 2-3k views :-(
I love it when I can look at someone's Excel sheet and understand it immediately. Your testing and summary tell me you're an engineer (and probably a very good one).
Thank you so much for doing your own scientific testing and showing your process. Now if I run out of basic I will know to NOT switch to matte to build hooks or anything that takes load. This was very helpful!
I'm looking forward to the PETG tests and comparison. Thanks
thank you for your hard work and good science!
Thanks. Great comparison of how the different filaments look and behave in the real world.
Very interesting. Thanks!
1st comment! 😄 I am super interested to know more about the BambuLab filaments - soon I'll have a Bambu myself 🥰
Temperatures you asked in live chat: they are in excel table, all are default temperatures. The table will be uploaded soon, but you can see it in video too.
Thanks for this detailed video. It looks like the marble filament is even better at hiding layer lines than the galaxy filament.
About to take the dive into 3d printing. Looking at filaments and this video helped a lot! Thanks for the detailed video!!
I just committed to a 2.5k order of xc1 and filaments. The filament world is overwhelming haha. I wanted CF spools due to their cool finish. Did you see the dark side to carbon fiber filament video on UA-cam. (Found it via a Reddit post). Wow😢
that CF looks really good
Thank you very much for the testing! Now Bambulab just have to restock filaments, so we can really buy them ;-)
The tough will not be restocked 😞
The look of silk filaments can be perfect for some applications, but the layer adhesion I have experienced across manufacturers is SO POOR that I will not use them anymore. I feel like it's better to use a stronger material and then paint it than to deal with the weakness in silk layer adhesion.
I gave those cali-dragons to my 5y old daughter. And guess which one she likes the best? Yep, the silk one, she don't care about the weak layer adhesion ;-)
I find glow in the dark filament is hit or miss when it comes to glowing. If you really want to see them glow use a UV light. I find that regular light from a bulb is just not enough to energize them. You need the sun or a UV light.
Don't forget too that led bulbs and florescent tubes can be low/nil UV output these days too so might explain the lack of output.
I'm new to 3D Printing. (BambuLab P1S with AMS). I find this video very helpful. Thank you !!!
I'd love to see some izod impact testing but to be honest i was only interested in the pla tough and marble, crazy for them to discontinue it.
Put a Black Light on the glow… it really shines…😂
BL's PLA Tough is now priced at $19.99 for what it's worth. Five colors left as of now: Lavender Blue, Orange, Yellow, Light Blue, & Pine Green.
Depend of the warehouse (US, EU..). Yes, I bought 5 spools too :-)
Why did you changed the test 3d models? Now we can’t compare them to the older test.
This is a comparison test, between these filaments. Minimalistic test models are with a reason: hook will give us info about combination tensile and bending. And I was curious about the layer adhesion with more realistic object with 2 walls and 20% infill, not solid inside. The detailed test will be done with my regular "old" test objects.
very well done you got a new subscriber =)
this was very helpful, thank you!
Has anyone seen the UA-cam video “the dark side to carbon fiber filament” that’s put me off ever trying it! So bad! 😢 I nearly filled my cart with spools of CF filament as I love the finish. That video converted me to never using it.
I assume this PLA has carbon powder and not carbon fiber. Filaments with fiber are much much more expensive.
But there is a bigger risk of clogging too (like in this video ua-cam.com/video/MjllKSVLY1s/v-deo.html )
Time to stop using PLA Matte and start just using Marble and Sparkle
So I see this after buying 3 rolls of matte play smh...
Crap I have 3 spools of matte pla, and I pretty much only print parts that need to be strong. 3 Useless filament rolls.
Whohoow black Betty….
Testing method is too scientific for a youtube video... 🤣
Yo dude breaking them with the same direction of the layers Is silly why would you do that? your more testing the adhesion than anything and these tests are inconclusive, any person worth their salt that is designing something for durability is going to use the grain to their advantage. Try again.