I just stumbled upon your channel. Thank you for this breif lesson. I'm going to watch the others and since I've subscribed with the bell, I will be awaiting more.
Orc is actually Yrch, it's in the Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, I think when Legolas warns Aragorn of Orcs on the Eastern border of the Argonath.
I don't plan on doing more strictly Sindarin videos, but surely I'll do more language learning content. The best resources for further learning have to be some UA-cam videos, especially with really passionate hosts; and online forums, but not the weebly site (there is like a forbidden one 😀 ). And I recommend setting a goal and just going through the whole internet. As I've said, try to find knowledgeable and passionate people, I always tried to learn from those so I wouldn't make a mistake in my videos. Good luck.
Artreii Thanks for the response my friend Your videos really helped me in starting to learn sindarin and inspired me to search more of sindarin Keep up the good work Guren glassui Novaer
Tomas: Have a look at books.google.fi/books?id=IXInDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA358&lpg=PA358 arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-plurals.png arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-numbers.png arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-relative-pronoun.png arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-participles.png academy.realelvish.net/beta/4-future.htm sindarinlessons.weebly.com/13---prepositions-1.html www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names -
I tried to say the"I can say what I wish and you won't understand me." to my friends and I kinda messed up saying it do you have an easy way to remember it?
Hmm, while it's hard for me to find just a quick association to such a long sequence, it always stuck in my head because I heard words like "dog", "quenya" and "thong" in it lol. I'd say... maybe try making up a sequence of English words that would sound similar (basically repeating the Elvish one so much that you create a sentence in English, if that makes sense).
I don't about that one actually, but if it's Sindarin then remember to roll the Rs everywhere and have the accent on the third to last syllable (so the first one in every word here).
Here’s what I want to know: how did the 2nd person suffix change from “-ch” to “-g”? In Two towers when they see Gandalf again Aragorn asks Legolas “Man cenich? (Kenich)” a breathy h like german Ich. And in neo Sindarin it’s changed to “g”. ?
Originally the "-ch" ending was attested in an untranslated text published in the late 1950s called the "Turin Wrapper", within the phrase, "man agorech". As no translation was provided, this phrase was assumed to mean "what have you done", thus giving us the "-ch" suffix for second person singular. But in later years more information was published regarding the pronominal suffixes of Sindarin, and it turns out that "-ch" is really an exclusive first person plural pronoun, with "-g" as the familiar case second person singular pronoun and "-l" as the reverential/formal case. (Tolkien later adapted "-ch" into a second person dual pronoun, but sticking to the publications made closer to the time period that the "Turin Wrapper" was published [i.e. 1950s], "-ch" is an exclusive first person plural pronoun.) Thus with this knowledge, "-ch" was abandoned and replaced with "-g" and "-l" for second person. At the time the Lord of the Rings movies were made, this was not yet known, so "-ch" was used for second person singular.
I love telling my freinds that I can say what I wish and they won't understand me I even taught my 3 year old cousin to say my govonen but he says my gobonin
I'm sorry, but the "You smell like a monster" had be giggling for 3min 😅😂🤣 it's 0100, my ADHD brain won't let me sleep, and I'm trying so hard not to wake up my family and my cat from laughing too loud. 🤭
Or "Dol gin lost" = Tolkien lost, which means he made a joke about himself losing the red thread for his masterpiece while writing! hahaha Who knows...
Check out the whole Elvish playlist!
ua-cam.com/play/PLQHSRyyyJzwkNOZdKkSV4wdsJ1tLjIwjn.html
*Saying swear words without getting trouble in school:*
That's exactly it!
ikr lol
Stonks
I don't know what you're talking about..... *sweats*
Big brain move more like
Fantasy Brain move
I know you said this was the last one of these, but please continue the series, I love it so much
Thank you! For now, there's other (language) stuff coming, but nobody knows what the future holds 😉
Max level politeness of swearing
That's the Elvish way, right? ;)
There will be no swearing here.
Elrond puts down the shoe he was going to throw at you
Haha yeah, I know 😀
Have you read the silmarillion?
He can throw a rock if you like
@Amelia High (STUDENT) don't make an oath infont of Elrond because he has seen and experienced first hand what it is to lose loved ones to them
I think it would be better if elrond said I foresee a short being thrown at you and then throwing it and saying see I told you
@@bushveldwizard be he foe or friend...
“Dôl gîn lost” to the four people who took the time to dislike this video
I said all of this to my teacher
She searched it u on google
My funeral is tomorrow
May you rest in peace
Absolute madladery exists
😁😁😁👍👋epic
Avaro naeth
Novaer, mellon.
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I just stumbled upon your channel. Thank you for this breif lesson. I'm going to watch the others and since I've subscribed with the bell, I will be awaiting more.
Oh, thank you so much. There is more to come, just need some time ;)
"Oh no we lost the boring gin"
Yeah, that Photoshop took a while ;)
@@Artreii We appreciate you for doing it
Bruh
If someone just made me mad at school I would say “Imrid amrad ursul” and they would be like “what?”
Ay, that's better than normal insults, right?
@@Artreii Yeah I think it means go die of flames, or something like that (Thorin said that in the Hobbit series).
@@Emo_YAN Yeah, yeah, it does!
Orc is actually Yrch, it's in the Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, I think when Legolas warns Aragorn of Orcs on the Eastern border of the Argonath.
Oh yeah that might be the case, thanks ;)
I always thought that yrch was plural…
@@twusssister8567 Yrch is plural, orch is singular.
because they took my my memory
A "G" in Sindarin is always pronounced as a hard "G", as in "goat".
Sees this
*cackles evilly
Thaat's right 😁
Ok now am I interested in Elvish, where tf was I 3 years ago!?
Anyway at least I can learn now
Dude, you are precious
Mr. Tolkien's books (and The Ring) are precious, I just really like them, but thanks! ;)
Will there be more in the future or is this the end ? If it is the end than do you know any other way I can continue to learn Sindarin ?
I don't plan on doing more strictly Sindarin videos, but surely I'll do more language learning content. The best resources for further learning have to be some UA-cam videos, especially with really passionate hosts; and online forums, but not the weebly site (there is like a forbidden one 😀 ). And I recommend setting a goal and just going through the whole internet. As I've said, try to find knowledgeable and passionate people, I always tried to learn from those so I wouldn't make a mistake in my videos. Good luck.
Artreii Thanks for the response my friend
Your videos really helped me in starting to learn sindarin and inspired me to search more of sindarin
Keep up the good work
Guren glassui
Novaer
Thank you so much! It means the world to me
Tomas: Have a look at
books.google.fi/books?id=IXInDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA358&lpg=PA358
arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-plurals.png
arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-numbers.png
arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-relative-pronoun.png
arcanaverba.neocities.org/sindarin-participles.png
academy.realelvish.net/beta/4-future.htm
sindarinlessons.weebly.com/13---prepositions-1.html
www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names
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They sound like compliments, great video by the way
That's why you can use them in your everyday life lol ^^ And thanks!
Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Great
Thanks a lot!
Hannon le! Tíriath ammaer! Melannen! S2
Melannen i phith lîn vin edhellen! Mae carnen, mellon ammell nîn! Le erui na gaer menig!
@@andre3497 Elooooooooo, ha dol!!! Geliannen go istannor rovaer nîn!! Ech erui na gaer menig, mellon rovae ah ammell nîn!
Ingach sa heniatha? KKKKKK
@@sssamuka_desss Ú-iston han! Hahaha! Ingaid heniatha ben vaw... Ach û illad!
@@sssamuka_desss A! Hannon le a pheth ammaer anim! Ui garthathon le eithro! 💙
@@andre3497 Thannas! Ingon sa istathanc han vaud. Hehehe!
I tried to say the"I can say what I wish and you won't understand me." to my friends and I kinda messed up saying it do you have an easy way to remember it?
Hmm, while it's hard for me to find just a quick association to such a long sequence, it always stuck in my head because I heard words like "dog", "quenya" and "thong" in it lol. I'd say... maybe try making up a sequence of English words that would sound similar (basically repeating the Elvish one so much that you create a sentence in English, if that makes sense).
What about “auto miqula orqu” that also mean to kiss an orc
How do you pronounce that?
I don't about that one actually, but if it's Sindarin then remember to roll the Rs everywhere and have the accent on the third to last syllable (so the first one in every word here).
Ok thanks
Uin edhel!
Next time someone is mean to me imma just use these. The best part is they don’t know what I would be saying
That's why I made this video ;)
how do you type on keyboard that < on i, u...
Here’s what I want to know: how did the 2nd person suffix change from “-ch” to “-g”? In Two towers when they see Gandalf again Aragorn asks Legolas “Man cenich? (Kenich)” a breathy h like german Ich. And in neo Sindarin it’s changed to “g”. ?
Originally the "-ch" ending was attested in an untranslated text published in the late 1950s called the "Turin Wrapper", within the phrase, "man agorech". As no translation was provided, this phrase was assumed to mean "what have you done", thus giving us the "-ch" suffix for second person singular. But in later years more information was published regarding the pronominal suffixes of Sindarin, and it turns out that "-ch" is really an exclusive first person plural pronoun, with "-g" as the familiar case second person singular pronoun and "-l" as the reverential/formal case. (Tolkien later adapted "-ch" into a second person dual pronoun, but sticking to the publications made closer to the time period that the "Turin Wrapper" was published [i.e. 1950s], "-ch" is an exclusive first person plural pronoun.) Thus with this knowledge, "-ch" was abandoned and replaced with "-g" and "-l" for second person. At the time the Lord of the Rings movies were made, this was not yet known, so "-ch" was used for second person singular.
@@cestlavie3572 so is -ch then a relic suffix like the discarded Doriathrin endings for dual?
@@jackwooten2374 Yes, it is currently considered to be archaic, and is generally avoided in Neo-Sindarin.
Hello, I am looking for help to translate a text into Sindarin. Can you help me?
I would suggest trying different translators, but yeah, it's a difficult task, too difficult for me for sure :)
I love telling my freinds that I can say what I wish and they won't understand me I even taught my 3 year old cousin to say my govonen but he says my gobonin
That's so cute and so wholesome, love it!
:) Cool!
Thank you!
Lolll I can say what I wish and you won't understand me 😂 I will remember this one for sure
I'm sorry, but the "You smell like a monster" had be giggling for 3min 😅😂🤣 it's 0100, my ADHD brain won't let me sleep, and I'm trying so hard not to wake up my family and my cat from laughing too loud. 🤭
just leaving a timestamp lol
3:41
My poor friends have no idea what I'm saying to them
That's the whole purpose of Elvish isn't it ^^
@@Artreii Well not exactly saying stuff that bad to them, nice vid
Oh of course, I'm just joking ;) But I also have other episodes! And thanks btw
@@Artreii Lol, No Problem. I'm enjoying your videos!!
Does he have an Elvish accent when he speaks English?
Legolas? That's a good question... I think he would have just a tiny bit ;)
That was fun hehehe :)
Thank you, now go use them! ;)
@@Artreii I will try hehehe do you get your material from a book or is one of the online translators?
where did you learn this?
There are actually many resources on the internet, which I always put in the description ;)
@@Artreii thx you are amazing man
No need to thank me, it would be even better to insult me in Elvish 😁
@@Artreii Well ego, mibo orch then
Edhellen nîn ù-mae, dan thelin pedo edhellen....
New video please please please
I'll think about it ;)
Ok I’m waiting bro.
@@eghostb9016 It's done ;)
ch is spoken like the german ch
Oh yeah, that's true too
Elvish sounds slightly Scandinavian
Oh yeah, definitely based on Northern European languages
I think I read somewhere its a mixture of Finnish, celtic and old norse
Celtic for sure, Tolkien was a fan ;)
What about “tark” it’s a racial slur from orcs to gondorian men
go kiss an orc is something along the lines of mibo bado orch (with some accent marks). Ego is equivalent to f*ck off
Or "Dol gin lost" = Tolkien lost, which means he made a joke about himself losing the red thread for his masterpiece while writing! hahaha Who knows...
Yeah yeah good thinking!
Hail the german raich
Interessant...
@@ObiWanKenobi420 ah oui oui
Oh please don't even mix the Elves and LOTR with the verkackte"Reich" .
Well I have not studied for my math test tmrw but at least I know how to insult the math problems in elvish