Nice Review TrailRecon. Just wanted to chime in and let you know that unlike Rigid, our Flood/Work/Scene pattern is NOT meant for distance performance. This lens is specifically designed to be used as a close range work light. Our Wide Cornering pattern would be much more suitable to compare to Rigid's Flood pattern. The performance in a test like this would demonstrate WILDLY different results as this current comparison is a bit apple to oranges. A better comparison to this Rigid product would be our S2 Sport in Driving Combo or Wide Cornering Patterns. The S2 Sport has an MSRP of $109.95 and puts out 1,130 lumens.
Appreciate your comments and the quality of your products. Let me say for the consumer your light and Rigid are advertised as “Flood” lights. I hope this comparison helped folks to understand that although one manufacture lists a light as a flood or spot light, they may get different results from another company. Manufactures really need to work on defining standards for what constitutes a flood, spot, or driving light so we can review apples to apples.
We can't speak to standardizing terminology across brands. That would be quite the undertaking, though one that we would be open to. However, we do provide a Lighting Zone Chart intended to demonstrate which of our patterns is best suited for each primary lighting zone. Feel free to check it out here: www.bajadesigns.com/Science-of-Lighting/Lighting-Zones.asp
Great Video guys! A couple things I want to help clear up. The RIGID Flood light is 25 Degrees. This is designed so that you get a decent amount of spread but still allows you to have that down the trail light that most expect from an offroad light. This is shown in your Live Demo where you see the RIGID light projecting farther than the 60 Degree Baja light. If you are looking for a wider spread then you want to go with a RIGID Diffused light with a 60 Degree spread. This will give you the same spread that the Baja gives in the Video. The Reason the Baja light has 2,000 Lumens over Rigid's 1,500 Lumens is because the Baja light uses a 10 Watt LED Board. 10 Watt LED boards by design emit more "Raw Power" RIGID uses the 5 Watt LED Board for a reason. It allows them to run a Cooler temp light while pumping up the Amp draw to produce as much power as possible from the Board. Cooler Running lights are more efficient. RIGID is best known for their "Optics" Because of the design of their Optics they are able to take all that energy and direct it exactly where the user needs it with the least amount of "Wasted" Spill light. Which is shown on your Live Action video of 10 feet away. You see the perfect Circle Shape. That is the optic Directing the light.
I have both Rigid and Baja Designs lights on my pickup. I also have Baja on my ATV and former pickup. I prefer the Baja Designs lights myself because of the color they produce. Having blue eyes I see better with a more yellow light. I have also noticed that the Baja's run a little warmer because of the higher wattage LED's and that helps to keep them from icing up in the winter. I have the Baja S2 Pro w/wide cornering pattern on my ATV, Baja Squadron XL Sports on my pickup w/driving combo, Rigid Dually-SS w/flood pattern on my pickup, Rigid A-series standard output for bed lights on my pickup, Baja Rock Light for hitch light on my pickup, and my last pickup had Baja Squadron Pros w/driving lens. I really like messing around with lights. :)
After seeing Baja Designs lights perform at KOH, I have been switching out all my light bars for them. My 30” ONX6 High Output should be in soon. I never thought I’d spend $1,000 on a light bar, but if you want to drive 60mph + at night accross the desert, you want to have a good light.
It really boils down to what your lighting needs are. The rigid throws light further but not as wide. The Baja is more of a work/scene light so it’s meant to surround you with light rather than lighting up distances. I will say though that I really love the coloring with the Baja lights definitely a more natural light color.
I had a rigid backup light crap out on me after less than two years. Fortunately, Rigid has a lifetime warranty and they are replacing both backup lights with their latest model. That's something I appreciate and it makes me want to stick with Rigid despite the problem with the one light. I don't know if Baja has the same lifetime warranty but if they do I would definitely consider trying some of their lights.
I'd put the 2 Baja lights on the outside edges of your roof rack and the 2 Rigid lights in the middle. best of both worlds :-) But all in all a great review Brad as always :-)
The Baja Designs lights are $109 each on their website, and some off road shops sell them for a bit less. I'm a huge lighting fan and have converted almost all the lights on my JKUR inside and out (some exterior lights are still HID).I have a pair of the squadron sports and they were less than $200 including harness. They offer a package with 2 lights and a harness for $209. Love your videos, PS. I cut out the back of my stock taillights and installed 2 MR16 floods for reverse lights, 7 watts each, $5 per light.... it's awesome!
nice! I think the Baja designs would work well in a camp setup where you would want more of a flood pattern for your site. rigid is great to throw light down the trail and see out in the distance
I have been looking for good insight into both light companies, I thank you for taking the time and money to give us this information. I would like to see more reviews and demo videos like these. again, thank you.
I'm a mechanical engineer and I design those connectors that Baja uses and I assure you there is a cable seal on each cable into the back of the connector. why would someone seal the connection but not the cables right on the outside. They appear to be rated for high pressure spray, pretty much what you'd find near splash zones on a car chassis.
I enjoy your reviews man thanks for doing them. You are quick and to the point yet very informative. Your reviews are very unbiased showing no favoritism just facts. Good job.
my opinion, the rigid can be used on regular roads. as the beam is more focused. it will not be glaring to vehicles from the opposite end. while the baja is best for trail or off road as you can see wider, also it is good as working light as the patter is more scattered. it will be great for campsites too.
Nice video. I gotta tell you I was surprised to see the difference in the two lights. It looked to me like the Baja was a flood but the Rigid looked to me like more of a spot light. Just goes to show you need to see before you buy. I liked the light out of the Baja best but I'm too cheap to spend that much money on a light but it did look better to me for a flood light. I bought a bicycle light the other day from Banggood for $5.75, runs off a USB port, and puts out alot of light for a 10W. I didn't by it for my Jeep though it might come in handy around a camp site or hiking.
I agree, the Rigid did seem more of a spot light, but it was listed as a flood. I'll have to check out the Banggood, always good to have extra camp lights. Thanks!
The light I bought is actually built very well (Chinese?) but I hook it up to the USB port on my Jeep Jump-start Battery that I carry with in case my battery goes dead on the Jeep.
Both are good company, Im thinking Rigid 10" for my RSX lower bumper & Baja Designs for my Ram. I think Baja Designs is better because I haven't heard anyone complain about leaks on them so thats a plus.
I chose to run Baja Designs Squadron Pros over the Rigid E2 Series and I'm glad I did. In this comparison though...... those Rigids definitely have better throw. You also say in the description that these are flood style beams but the lenses look to be the spot versions...... which would explain the focused light pattern of those Rigids.
Good review. The tighter focus of the rigid is going to put more light down the road, the much wider beam of the BD is going to really light up the side of the road more. Its difficult to compare. I would kind of like both sets mounted and then choose which to use at that moment based on the current situation.
I hear that. This 4x4 stuff is expensive. From the lights to the traction pads, air compressors, tires, protection, etc, there isn't much cheap in this sport/activity.
If I just needed one light, I'd go with the Baja Designs. Definitely a superior product. If I were putting multiple lights around a roof rack, though, price would drive me to the Rigid.
If you're wallet would allow it you need the RIGID Scene Lights. One Light puts out 115 Degree Spread. The Preferred light for Service Vehicles or anyone who works at night.
I think a person first needs to decide what their need is, and which light pattern will meet your need; either a spot or flood style light. If you need long range illumination, then a spot will work best. If you need lots of light close to the vehicle, then a flood would be best. Also, comparing two different style of lights, spot vs. flood, side by side on the same vehicle at the same time, isn't really the best test in my opinion. I think a better test would be having both spot lights on one vehicle, next to another vehicle with the other flood style lights. Then park the two vehicles next to each other, and alternately turn on the spots vs. the floods. Then you would see the full effect of each light style, next to each other. Of course, this would require a second vehicle... Turning on one light only will give you a different effect than having both lights on. Good Luck! I have a (yellow) TJ with a windshield light mount that positions lights over the windshield. When I first bought the TJ the previous owner had total of two floods on the sides, and two spots on the center two positions of the light bar. When I turned on the lights, I had a lot of light reflect off the hood, back into the cabin. It looked and felt in the drivers seat as if someone had turned on a light in my face. I didn't care for that so I removed the lights from above the windshield and mounted them on the front bumper. The lighting effect from the front bumper was much better in my opinion. How do the 50" and smaller type LED lights perform and do they reflect when mounted above the windshield on a JK?
Although the Rigid appeared to be a spot light, it is listed as a flood light. Lot's of factors to think about when installing lights, thanks for the comments.
That is true well I'm running a auxbeam 12inch 5D lens light bar and Anzo spot pods but looking at it in a way it also matters for the reason your going to use them for. Either for driving in remote trails at night or for camping.
I have the srq2’s in driving pattern mounted as ditch lights and they are great! I also have a squadron pro on the back of my truck as a work light and it’s super bright! Too bright for a work light lol
I'm assuming you will install two lights and I'll bet when you through up to Baja lights it will give you a pretty darn wide view also,. It may be misleading from not actually seeing it firsthand like you did but the Baja lights looked brighter and more daylight looking. Thanks for the videos they're very helpful and interesting
TrailRecon totally understand that just kind of to me looks like Baja will be best way for me to go as I really like the appearance of cleaner looking light beam.if I make any sense LOL
Great comparison, really appreciate the effort. I have a pair of Rigid D2 driving lights on the front of a John Deere Gator brush guard & another pair of SRQ2s in flood pattern on the rear of the cab, high up. Really like that 6000k color temp. Rigid offers mounts, harness & as an extra, snap on covers to protect the glass more &/ or change color, which is what I did. Rigid's leds are so much better than stock lights on off road vehicles, keep up the great work!
I don't think the poster matched the price with the correct light unless he got an incredible deal that can't be had today. The 2,450 lumens light is the Pro and it's a lot more than $104/light.
I would like to see this with the Rigid diffused flood. I am looking at the SR-Q clear flood for reverse lighting and the SR-M diffused for rack mounted scene light. Thanks.
I'm in the market for a diffused light for a "hitch/back up light". Now I kinda wonder if the Baja has a better spread than Rigid with the diffused lens.
The RIGID Diffused light has a 60 Degree Spread. These are preferred lights for backing up RIGID also has a Back Up Kit with everything you need included.
Thanks Brad, I assume when you filmed this comparison review you were looking to use these as ditch lights? I am looking for a lighting solution to mount on my Yakima rack (Tacoma bed rack) for camp lighting on each side of my rig. Would that change your thinking on which one to use? Thanks in advance for your insight as I research what options are out there for this application.
Baja design for me i have had rigid duallys and 50" light bars but baja designs always out perform and out last yes baja design a little more expensive but you get more warranty out of the baja designs
I have a pair of Black Oak pods in flood, they are 40w each, 4 10watt leds. I sell and install lights and have my hands on everything, and I have to say the build quality of Black Oak is the best I have used yet. I got the two lights, wiring harness with switch, for about 160. You should consider a review
They are brighter than a light bar. I swapped out an 8" Rigid LED bar for 2 Baja Designs squadron Pro's with the combo-driving lenses (same lumen output as the XL80's but in a smaller housing) and they outperform the bar. I am now adding 2 more to my atv that will be spot patterns. Best part is they mount into the factory headlight openings on the Canam's so I don't have to have any extra appendages hanging off my machine.
Awesome. I love these comparison videos you are doing. I subscribed. I want to see more. Based on your presentation of the two lights I would have chosen the Rigid light also. Keep up the good work! Both are great lights.
I'd like to see some HID spot or flood light comparisons... LED lights are no good for winter time as the lenses will get covered in snow/ice and won't melt and greatly reduce light output.
check out Extremeled light bars sometime. out of denver colorado. hands down the best light out there for a very reasonable price along with a lifetime warranty. by far my favorite life company and i won't run anything else
TrailRecon what?! They're one of the top leading LED providers. 95% of their products is made in house at St. Louis, Missouri. They just released their SS LED Bars and they are sweet! Check em out!
Due to the dramatic field of view difference, the lights you tested can't really be compared. Great video, but you compared an apple to an orange. A 20 degree field of view is generally a spot, depending on reflector geometry and lens type. A 60 degree field of view is closer to a flood, depending on reflector geometry and lens type.
Hey boss, my names Jason. I am the warranty/tech support rep for BD. I noticed in this video you used a work scene light to compare. This would not be the proper pattern for this use. Id like to get you a flood light so you can possibly make a new video? Great format. Very informative we just want to be sure we put the best possible information out there for our consumers. The work scene light is better for a bed light or flood around the base of the campsite/truck. The spot light would be a better application for the front of the vehicle as far as auxiliary lights go.
I want to see this video! Only one problem. Rigid had updated their product line up since this video was posted with their “pro series.” Do a BD squadron sport spot @ $119.95 vs Rigid Dually pro spot @ $109.95. Those line up as great contenders. If you stand behind your product, then send those two to brad @trailrecon. :) looking forward to see what you guys come up with.
I follow Bailey on some offroad/ truck forums (awesome dude). It was just posted BD upgraded a wide variety of their lights. I think it is time for a Rigid PRO vs BD +. Make it happen. Thank you. If not, you guys are scared of the truth. Which is, Rigid is cheaper yet throws more light. Just saying.
@@Ram-vt3rm ....... you're psych-analyzing is hilarious. Don't become a shrink..... "If not, you guys are scared of the truth. Which is, Rigid is cheaper yet throws more light. Just saying".
What type of heat do they produce, my auto electrician friend said heat is an important consideration when putting any flood light on a car, as the heat can damage paint, racking, plastic (if placed in a grill) etc , how easy is it to change the LED's?
TrailRecon I came to the same conclusion as you even though I really do like the Baja Designs light you could almost get 4 of the rigid Industries for the price of 2 Baja designs.
It's also worth noting that the lights are sold in a single or a pair. If you buy the pair, they are even less expensive. MSRP for the SRQ-Flood is currently $119.99 each or $227.99/pair. It's very difficult to judge light intensity via a video camera's interpretation. You can see in this video (especially of the garage door) that the video cam is auto-adjusting its aperture to try to keep the video from over or under exposing. To compare brightness you need to set your video camera to manual and keep the same settings. However, the lux meter was a really nice surprise! Don't believe Lumen ratings as they are often WAY off. Too many variables in the design for Lumens to mean much.
I know I'm late here but IMO these lights are not comparable. The Baja produces a soft diffused beam, and the Rigid is clearly more focused for road use. The difference in your lux reading is not because of the color temperature, it's because more light is being diffused to the side rather than focused on your lux meter. You also state that both lights are 20W, but then you shared figures which show the Baja is 20W and the Rigid is 17.2W. I think the Rigid looks pretty bad in your video, lots of blue/green cast and inconsistent beam. The beam quality and warmer color of the Baja is way better for outdoor use.
I would like to add a pair of tgr baja designs lights shown here as a reverse on my rear bumper wired to my switchpros. Anyone tried these lights as extra reverse lights?
Nice Review TrailRecon. Just wanted to chime in and let you know that unlike Rigid, our Flood/Work/Scene pattern is NOT meant for distance performance. This lens is specifically designed to be used as a close range work light. Our Wide Cornering pattern would be much more suitable to compare to Rigid's Flood pattern. The performance in a test like this would demonstrate WILDLY different results as this current comparison is a bit apple to oranges. A better comparison to this Rigid product would be our S2 Sport in Driving Combo or Wide Cornering Patterns. The S2 Sport has an MSRP of $109.95 and puts out 1,130 lumens.
Appreciate your comments and the quality of your products. Let me say for the consumer your light and Rigid are advertised as “Flood” lights. I hope this comparison helped folks to understand that although one manufacture lists a light as a flood or spot light, they may get different results from another company. Manufactures really need to work on defining standards for what constitutes a flood, spot, or driving light so we can review apples to apples.
We can't speak to standardizing terminology across brands. That would be quite the undertaking, though one that we would be open to. However, we do provide a Lighting Zone Chart intended to demonstrate which of our patterns is best suited for each primary lighting zone.
Feel free to check it out here: www.bajadesigns.com/Science-of-Lighting/Lighting-Zones.asp
Another video comparison with the Wide Cornering lens on the Baja Designs light would be great.
After watching this video I bought S2 Pro Combo. Baja Designs appears to be a superior Light.
i have both rigid and bd lights. the bd are far superior and well worth the additional cost.
Great Video guys!
A couple things I want to help clear up. The RIGID Flood light is 25 Degrees. This is designed so that you get a decent amount of spread but still allows you to have that down the trail light that most expect from an offroad light. This is shown in your Live Demo where you see the RIGID light projecting farther than the 60 Degree Baja light. If you are looking for a wider spread then you want to go with a RIGID Diffused light with a 60 Degree spread. This will give you the same spread that the Baja gives in the Video.
The Reason the Baja light has 2,000 Lumens over Rigid's 1,500 Lumens is because the Baja light uses a 10 Watt LED Board. 10 Watt LED boards by design emit more "Raw Power" RIGID uses the 5 Watt LED Board for a reason. It allows them to run a Cooler temp light while pumping up the Amp draw to produce as much power as possible from the Board. Cooler Running lights are more efficient. RIGID is best known for their "Optics" Because of the design of their Optics they are able to take all that energy and direct it exactly where the user needs it with the least amount of "Wasted" Spill light. Which is shown on your Live Action video of 10 feet away. You see the perfect Circle Shape. That is the optic Directing the light.
Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.
I have both Rigid and Baja Designs lights on my pickup. I also have Baja on my ATV and former pickup. I prefer the Baja Designs lights myself because of the color they produce. Having blue eyes I see better with a more yellow light. I have also noticed that the Baja's run a little warmer because of the higher wattage LED's and that helps to keep them from icing up in the winter. I have the Baja S2 Pro w/wide cornering pattern on my ATV, Baja Squadron XL Sports on my pickup w/driving combo, Rigid Dually-SS w/flood pattern on my pickup, Rigid A-series standard output for bed lights on my pickup, Baja Rock Light for hitch light on my pickup, and my last pickup had Baja Squadron Pros w/driving lens.
I really like messing around with lights. :)
That's good to know about the Baja's running warmer for this in cold climates. Admittedly, I really enjoy messing with lights myself! Thanks!
After seeing Baja Designs lights perform at KOH, I have been switching out all my light bars for them. My 30” ONX6 High Output should be in soon. I never thought I’d spend $1,000 on a light bar, but if you want to drive 60mph + at night accross the desert, you want to have a good light.
It really boils down to what your lighting needs are. The rigid throws light further but not as wide. The Baja is more of a work/scene light so it’s meant to surround you with light rather than lighting up distances. I will say though that I really love the coloring with the Baja lights definitely a more natural light color.
Yea I personally refer the rigid
Those drone shots are awesome for the comparisons, way to take product reviews to the next level!
Thanks, always fun to find and excuse to fly it!
I really like the look of the Baja, but I like the color and performance of the Rigid.
The small size of the Baja is tough to beat with the amount of light it puts out... but $$$$!
Rocky X TV k
You covered all angles 👍🏼 coming back to this video when it's time for lights
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
Baha design is definatly the best, less eyes fatigue and better clarity, rigid is too bring imagine on snow
I had a rigid backup light crap out on me after less than two years. Fortunately, Rigid has a lifetime warranty and they are replacing both backup lights with their latest model. That's something I appreciate and it makes me want to stick with Rigid despite the problem with the one light. I don't know if Baja has the same lifetime warranty but if they do I would definitely consider trying some of their lights.
I'd put the 2 Baja lights on the outside edges of your roof rack and the 2 Rigid lights in the middle. best of both worlds :-) But all in all a great review Brad as always :-)
I like your way of thinking!
I like how compact that Baja Designs light is. Less likely to get damaged on the trail.
The Baja Designs lights are $109 each on their website, and some off road shops sell them for a bit less. I'm a huge lighting fan and have converted almost all the lights on my JKUR inside and out (some exterior lights are still HID).I have a pair of the squadron sports and they were less than $200 including harness. They offer a package with 2 lights and a harness for $209. Love your videos, PS. I cut out the back of my stock taillights and installed 2 MR16 floods for reverse lights, 7 watts each, $5 per light.... it's awesome!
I kind of liked when both were on. It was a good combo.
nice! I think the Baja designs would work well in a camp setup where you would want more of a flood pattern for your site. rigid is great to throw light down the trail and see out in the distance
Agree, the Baja would make a better camp light. Thanks!
I have been looking for good insight into both light companies, I thank you for taking the time and money to give us this information. I would like to see more reviews and demo videos like these. again, thank you.
Glad it was helpful. Thank you!
Rigid light output looked better to me.
I'm a mechanical engineer and I design those connectors that Baja uses and I assure you there is a cable seal on each cable into the back of the connector. why would someone seal the connection but not the cables right on the outside. They appear to be rated for high pressure spray, pretty much what you'd find near splash zones on a car chassis.
This was the most useful and meaningful review/comparison i've seen to date.
great comparison...I think I'd go with the rigid also..price wise.. and for what I'd use it for... reverse/rear auxiliary situations...
Thanks!
I enjoy your reviews man thanks for doing them. You are quick and to the point yet very informative. Your reviews are very unbiased showing no favoritism just facts. Good job.
Thank you, appreciate it!
Seems like a lot of folks like the Baja. Great review.
Can't go wrong with either in my opinion. Thanks!
my opinion, the rigid can be used on regular roads. as the beam is more focused. it will not be glaring to vehicles from the opposite end. while the baja is best for trail or off road as you can see wider, also it is good as working light as the patter is more scattered. it will be great for campsites too.
You should also look at the kc flex series I see alot of people using those
Will have to check them out, thanks!
Nice video. I gotta tell you I was surprised to see the difference in the two lights. It looked to me like the Baja was a flood but the Rigid looked to me like more of a spot light. Just goes to show you need to see before you buy. I liked the light out of the Baja best but I'm too cheap to spend that much money on a light but it did look better to me for a flood light. I bought a bicycle light the other day from Banggood for $5.75, runs off a USB port, and puts out alot of light for a 10W. I didn't by it for my Jeep though it might come in handy around a camp site or hiking.
I agree, the Rigid did seem more of a spot light, but it was listed as a flood. I'll have to check out the Banggood, always good to have extra camp lights. Thanks!
The light I bought is actually built very well (Chinese?) but I hook it up to the USB port on my Jeep Jump-start Battery that I carry with in case my battery goes dead on the Jeep.
This video was made with the wrong light, the Baja designs light in use is a "work scene" light not a flood.
Both are good company, Im thinking Rigid 10" for my RSX lower bumper & Baja Designs for my Ram. I think Baja Designs is better because I haven't heard anyone complain about leaks on them so thats a plus.
I now realize Rigid is top quality. Especially the build quality.
Baja and rigid work great together. Should equip two of each to get the perfect overkill of light output.
I chose to run Baja Designs Squadron Pros over the Rigid E2 Series and I'm glad I did. In this comparison though...... those Rigids definitely have better throw. You also say in the description that these are flood style beams but the lenses look to be the spot versions...... which would explain the focused light pattern of those Rigids.
Good review. The tighter focus of the rigid is going to put more light down the road, the much wider beam of the BD is going to really light up the side of the road more. Its difficult to compare. I would kind of like both sets mounted and then choose which to use at that moment based on the current situation.
Ya, if my wallet would allow I would have had a set of each for the review. Thanks!
I hear that. This 4x4 stuff is expensive. From the lights to the traction pads, air compressors, tires, protection, etc, there isn't much cheap in this sport/activity.
I have two corner versions of the S2 on the back of my truck. They are so [incredibly] bright.
If I just needed one light, I'd go with the Baja Designs. Definitely a superior product. If I were putting multiple lights around a roof rack, though, price would drive me to the Rigid.
I think if my wallet could afford it, I'd put Baja's all the way around my roof rack.
If you're wallet would allow it you need the RIGID Scene Lights. One Light puts out 115 Degree Spread. The Preferred light for Service Vehicles or anyone who works at night.
Hands down Baja Designs period!
I think a person first needs to decide what their need is, and which light pattern will meet your need; either a spot or flood style light. If you need long range illumination, then a spot will work best. If you need lots of light close to the vehicle, then a flood would be best. Also, comparing two different style of lights, spot vs. flood, side by side on the same vehicle at the same time, isn't really the best test in my opinion. I think a better test would be having both spot lights on one vehicle, next to another vehicle with the other flood style lights. Then park the two vehicles next to each other, and alternately turn on the spots vs. the floods. Then you would see the full effect of each light style, next to each other. Of course, this would require a second vehicle... Turning on one light only will give you a different effect than having both lights on.
Good Luck!
I have a (yellow) TJ with a windshield light mount that positions lights over the windshield. When I first bought the TJ the previous owner had total of two floods on the sides, and two spots on the center two positions of the light bar. When I turned on the lights, I had a lot of light reflect off the hood, back into the cabin. It looked and felt in the drivers seat as if someone had turned on a light in my face. I didn't care for that so I removed the lights from above the windshield and mounted them on the front bumper. The lighting effect from the front bumper was much better in my opinion.
How do the 50" and smaller type LED lights perform and do they reflect when mounted above the windshield on a JK?
Although the Rigid appeared to be a spot light, it is listed as a flood light. Lot's of factors to think about when installing lights, thanks for the comments.
Yep I'll consider a rigid too but I would also try auxbeam they're great lights for the best price
You can't be the price of the auxbeams, but in my experience they just don't have the same quality as either of these lights.
That is true well I'm running a auxbeam 12inch 5D lens light bar and Anzo spot pods but looking at it in a way it also matters for the reason your going to use them for. Either for driving in remote trails at night or for camping.
I have the srq2’s in driving pattern mounted as ditch lights and they are great! I also have a squadron pro on the back of my truck as a work light and it’s super bright! Too bright for a work light lol
They work really good together. I would take both and work them together.
I'm assuming you will install two lights and I'll bet when you through up to Baja lights it will give you a pretty darn wide view also,. It may be misleading from not actually seeing it firsthand like you did but the Baja lights looked brighter and more daylight looking.
Thanks for the videos they're very helpful and interesting
Agree, having 2 of each light would have been nice, but someone would need to help me explain spending all that $$$$ to my wife!
TrailRecon totally understand that just kind of to me looks like Baja will be best way for me to go as I really like the appearance of cleaner looking light beam.if I make any sense LOL
Great comparison, really appreciate the effort. I have a pair of Rigid D2 driving lights on the front of a John Deere Gator brush guard & another pair of SRQ2s in flood pattern on the rear of the cab, high up. Really like that 6000k color temp. Rigid offers mounts, harness & as an extra, snap on covers to protect the glass more &/ or change color, which is what I did. Rigid's leds are so much better than stock lights on off road vehicles, keep up the great work!
I don't think the poster matched the price with the correct light unless he got an incredible deal that can't be had today. The 2,450 lumens light is the Pro and it's a lot more than $104/light.
I would like to see this with the Rigid diffused flood. I am looking at the SR-Q clear flood for reverse lighting and the SR-M diffused for rack mounted scene light. Thanks.
I have two BAJA Designs light bars on my jeep they out perform everything on the market period.
I think I'd like the Baja better for trail use as a flood. Interesting because I was thinking about buying the Rigid.
Agree, the Baja is more of a true flood light than the Rigid.
I'm in the market for a diffused light for a "hitch/back up light". Now I kinda wonder if the Baja has a better spread than Rigid with the diffused lens.
The RIGID Diffused light has a 60 Degree Spread. These are preferred lights for backing up RIGID also has a Back Up Kit with everything you need included.
im thinking about the rigid srq pro flood diffused for side and rear scene lights, what you think?
Thanks Brad, I assume when you filmed this comparison review you were looking to use these as ditch lights? I am looking for a lighting solution to mount on my Yakima rack (Tacoma bed rack) for camp lighting on each side of my rig. Would that change your thinking on which one to use? Thanks in advance for your insight as I research what options are out there for this application.
Baja design for me i have had rigid duallys and 50" light bars but baja designs always out perform and out last yes baja design a little more expensive but you get more warranty out of the baja designs
I like Baja's 30 day money back guarantee, but both offer limited lifetime warranties.
I think when there used together is the best
I think that was a good honest review. Thank you.
Thank you, try to keep it honest.
I like the combination of both of them
I have a pair of Black Oak pods in flood, they are 40w each, 4 10watt leds. I sell and install lights and have my hands on everything, and I have to say the build quality of Black Oak is the best I have used yet. I got the two lights, wiring harness with switch, for about 160. You should consider a review
Ben Simmons --apparently you haven’t used Rigid products.
@@2003evodave more like he sells Black Oak and is trying to pedal them here.
Great vid! Can the rigid be mounted to a vertical surface? How flexible is the mount?
Very informative vid! Please review more lights... 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks, will try and do more in the future.
you should really review the baja designs xl80 !!! i keep hearing the 2 pods are brighter then a light bar
Would love to, but they are pricey. I've heard good things as well.
They are brighter than a light bar. I swapped out an 8" Rigid LED bar for 2 Baja Designs squadron Pro's with the combo-driving lenses (same lumen output as the XL80's but in a smaller housing) and they outperform the bar. I am now adding 2 more to my atv that will be spot patterns. Best part is they mount into the factory headlight openings on the Canam's so I don't have to have any extra appendages hanging off my machine.
Awesome. I love these comparison videos you are doing. I subscribed. I want to see more. Based on your presentation of the two lights I would have chosen the Rigid light also. Keep up the good work! Both are great lights.
They are in my opinion to different to be compared, but its a nice review.
Great comparison, I have 2 of the rigid cube style lights in the grille of my truck and work great for nice flood lighting.
I'd like to see some HID spot or flood light comparisons... LED lights are no good for winter time as the lenses will get covered in snow/ice and won't melt and greatly reduce light output.
Ok would consider rigid in a heartbeat! Baja is just priced
It would be great if you made a comparison of mid led light bars like auxbeam vs nilight vs mictuning etc. So we can know the best of them. Plssssss
check out Extremeled light bars sometime. out of denver colorado. hands down the best light out there for a very reasonable price along with a lifetime warranty. by far my favorite life company and i won't run anything else
Have you tried the Diode Dynamics LED Bars? might want to look into those a bit!
Never heard of them, but will have to check them out. Thanks!
TrailRecon what?! They're one of the top leading LED providers. 95% of their products is made in house at St. Louis, Missouri. They just released their SS LED Bars and they are sweet! Check em out!
comparing a 20* vs a 60* is not a solid comparison.
@Your moms HITACHI But the BD was a flood and the Rigid a SPOT light. Apples vs oranges.
Can you do a comparison using a similar beam angle?
+trailrecon you need to do a test on Baja design OnX6, 40" Hi-Power Driving/Combo please please!!
Think I'll go with Rigid also.
Great video ! Thanks man !
Thank you!
Due to the dramatic field of view difference, the lights you tested can't really be compared. Great video, but you compared an apple to an orange. A 20 degree field of view is generally a spot, depending on reflector geometry and lens type. A 60 degree field of view is closer to a flood, depending on reflector geometry and lens type.
Would you still pick the ridged after this many years of use
going Baja like the light pattern and color.
Excellent!
Hey boss, my names Jason. I am the warranty/tech support rep for BD. I noticed in this video you used a work scene light to compare. This would not be the proper pattern for this use. Id like to get you a flood light so you can possibly make a new video? Great format. Very informative we just want to be sure we put the best possible information out there for our consumers. The work scene light is better for a bed light or flood around the base of the campsite/truck. The spot light would be a better application for the front of the vehicle as far as auxiliary lights go.
I want to see this video! Only one problem. Rigid had updated their product line up since this video was posted with their “pro series.” Do a BD squadron sport spot @ $119.95 vs Rigid Dually pro spot @ $109.95. Those line up as great contenders. If you stand behind your product, then send those two to brad @trailrecon. :) looking forward to see what you guys come up with.
I follow Bailey on some offroad/ truck forums (awesome dude). It was just posted BD upgraded a wide variety of their lights. I think it is time for a Rigid PRO vs BD +. Make it happen. Thank you. If not, you guys are scared of the truth. Which is, Rigid is cheaper yet throws more light. Just saying.
@@Ram-vt3rm ....... you're psych-analyzing is hilarious. Don't become a shrink..... "If not, you guys are scared of the truth. Which is, Rigid is cheaper yet throws more light. Just saying".
Go back under your rock troll *pokes trolls eye with stick*
Ram 1500 you’re a squid
What type of heat do they produce, my auto electrician friend said heat is an important consideration when putting any flood light on a car, as the heat can damage paint, racking, plastic (if placed in a grill) etc , how easy is it to change the LED's?
1st time watching your channel. Great Video. I'm going with rigid on my truck too..:)
Thanks for checking out the channel! Can't go wrong with the rigids.
Awesome comparación 💪🏽
As always great review. Keep up the great work
Thank you!
Baja designs set with wire harness and switch is selling for $188. And baja designs is the ONLY brand that is waterproof. Pressure washer approved!
And lifetime warranty
What about KC Hilites? Any chance you'll be review one of their products?
KC makes some great stuff, something I may take a look at down the road.
Another great video!
Thank you!
Did you install these above the windshield or at the base of the windshield?
I figured it out. You put them on your rack.
Is baja s2 dot approved to be used as motorcycle headlight?
Great review Brad
Thank you!
That drone needs a Rigid an great vid
Do you recall whether the baja designs were the work/scene lens? or where they the wide cornering lens?
Probably should have compared to bajaha in the spot or one spot one flood to be more simular to that ridged.
I honestly didn't realize there was going to be such a difference in their flood patterns.... I found it pretty interesting.
Great comparison. I like the rigid Better. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
I'm with you the Rigid Industries would work just fine for me plus the savings=no brainer....
Right on, thank you!
TrailRecon I came to the same conclusion as you even though I really do like the Baja Designs light you could almost get 4 of the rigid Industries for the price of 2 Baja designs.
It's also worth noting that the lights are sold in a single or a pair. If you buy the pair, they are even less expensive. MSRP for the SRQ-Flood is currently $119.99 each or $227.99/pair.
It's very difficult to judge light intensity via a video camera's interpretation. You can see in this video (especially of the garage door) that the video cam is auto-adjusting its aperture to try to keep the video from over or under exposing. To compare brightness you need to set your video camera to manual and keep the same settings. However, the lux meter was a really nice surprise! Don't believe Lumen ratings as they are often WAY off. Too many variables in the design for Lumens to mean much.
Baja Design EVERYTHING!! :-) Great review though!
I LIKE BOTH BUT THIS TIME I,M TRYING RIDGID ..
Gimme' Black Oak any day!
Hi... Ridge gives more distance brighter...
Baja' would be perfect for reverse lamps. But 305 bucks is insane. Must be a Jeep thing.
can the baha desigh can be install on motorcycle
Rigid Ind all the way !
Great video and comparison.
Rigid nation!
Id choose the d series pro instead of either of these lights.
I know I'm late here but IMO these lights are not comparable. The Baja produces a soft diffused beam, and the Rigid is clearly more focused for road use. The difference in your lux reading is not because of the color temperature, it's because more light is being diffused to the side rather than focused on your lux meter.
You also state that both lights are 20W, but then you shared figures which show the Baja is 20W and the Rigid is 17.2W.
I think the Rigid looks pretty bad in your video, lots of blue/green cast and inconsistent beam. The beam quality and warmer color of the Baja is way better for outdoor use.
Thanks for the information.
I would like to add a pair of tgr baja designs lights shown here as a reverse on my rear bumper wired to my switchpros. Anyone tried these lights as extra reverse lights?
Better buy both and stack them together.......
The rigid shines further with less power and less lumens. Also looks better.