This is definitely my favorite e-bike. Super light, relatively fast, good battery range and unbelievably durable. I've had my Carbo S and X for 3 years and they operate like day one after replacing the battery, which starts to deplete after 3 years or so. I just wish they could make it a class 3 to go 28mph max speed. I need just slightly more speed and power and it would be absolutely perfect for me in NYC.
@@GIedits-vf7re The X is much smoother of a ride thanks to the carbon fiber belt (make sure to get the one with the blue threading on the inside). The carbon fiber belt literally feels like butter, once you use it, you can't go back to a regular metal chain belt. I originally bought the S, but the gear shifting would get misaligned sometimes after changing gears and I just got frustrated with it and bought the X. I live in NYC and we have hills up on the north side of Central Park and the X handles them just as well as the S does, despite the S having all of the gear options. So it was a no brainer for me to switch to the X permanently. You just accommodate for the lack of gears by using the throttle more often when you reach a hill in order to give you the kick start you need to then start pedaling at a fast enough rate to then get the assist from the motor. The largest battery is MANDATORY because it effects the speed. If you get a smaller battery than the max, you can't go as fast. The X is also noticeably lighter on the rear wheel because you don't have all of the gears, so it make it feel faster and more nimble.
Are you serious? Everything on my bike broke and the customer service is all right dude I'm sure you got the bike for free to save this no offense, but I'm still trying to get mine to work after 25 miles on it so
Thanks for this helpful review! A front suspension would be nice but then you wouldn't have a 29-pound bike, would you? That being said, a SUSPENSION post would help greatly. I'm using a Thudbuster on my current ebike and there is no way I would ride a hard tail bike without it. But my bike is well over 60 pounds with a large battery... I see that the new 500 Watt Jackrabbit has an optional suspension post but this has no pedals... It's basically a scooter with a seat. Is it possible to add a suspension post to the Carbo?
Hi you keep mentioning bike weights 29 pound, have you measured or just assuming , I bough the same exact bike with same set up and it weights 35 pound ? Can you double check and update Pkease
i have one, 2 yrs old - biggest drawback is the tiny display readout, barely larger than a postage stamp & nearly unreadable - Carbo says a larger display is due in April '24 - also the frame audibly creaks under pedal load as you can hear in the review
I own a GoCycle GX, Carbo S and X and just got the Velotric Fold 1. I've now officially transitioned to the Fold 1 because at 1/3rd the price it blows my other 3 bikes out of the water with the super powerful 750 watt motor, throttle that goes to 28 mph and 55 mile range. It is a beast at only $1100. That being said, I am not going to be selling my Carbo X because I think there is still value for a lightweight bike. The Fold1 is still pretty massive and heavy in comparison to the Carbo X (twice the weight and much bulkier). But I can completely feel the power/speed and comfort difference. The Fold1 feels like floating on a VERY FAST cloud. I was trying to wait it out and hope that Carbo would release a 500 watt motor at least but to no avail. I think they will start to lose a lot of market share with these much more powerful Velotric bikes coming out at 1/3rd the cost as they aren't making any updates or innovating anymore. It's a no brainer really the Fold 1 just feels WAY more solid, sturdy, powerful, 10x more comfortable due to the thick 3inch wheels on the Fold 1, and way better range. The only disadvantage is the bulkiness and extra weigh it doesn't really impact me when I am riding it, only when I am taking it up stairs really.
Haven't tried the shifter so can't say although would be nice to have some gears for hilly terrain - I'd say if you life in a flat area, get the belt, if not the geared one and as far as the motor, yeah I think the 350 is ok, they're goal is trying to make this light so adding a 500 doesn't make sense, the 350 almost feels like a 500 because it doesn't have a ton a weight to haul around. It all depends on what you're looking for.
The 350w motor and largest battery are mandatory if you want to hit the max speed of 20mph. If you have high tire pressure at like 105, you can actually get up to like 23 mph. A smaller battery or motor will slow things down a lot.
@@GIedits-vf7re Good question, i've tried all types of tires, from fat tires to slightly thinner tires and I recommend against it if you are over 200lbs as the rear tube is very sensitive to bursting if the tire doesn't allow for enough space. The schwalbe tires NEVER burst as they are wider than most tires. So if you are heavier than 200 lbs I would not change out those tires. They handle very high tire pressure extremely well and have never had any popped tubes with them. I have several layers of high quality cotton rim tape too for reference. Don't use fat tires as they will crack the rims once you inflate the tubes. If you are under 200 lbs, you might not have any issues with the thinner tires, but you definitely need the rim tape in my opinion, or else you might have issues with the tube bursting still.
If you're 5'11", for a normally-proportioned rider, how short could they be and still fit the bike? There is no info on that at the Carbo website. With the seatpost in the lowest rideable position, it didn't look like you were squished.
For people with strong legs, belt drive isn't a pretty option for this bike. Had a Rider1up ebike belt drive and broke the carbon belt twice within a year of using it. Maybe Carbo might change my mind when it arrives but definitely will convert it to standard chain like I did eith my Rider1up
I have both the S (metal chain) and X (carbon belt) and MUCH prefer the X. The carbon fiber belt feels like butter and is perfectly fitted to the bike dimensions (never falls off ever). I've had mine for 2.5 years and am 240 lbs and put a lot of pressure on the bike and it has has held up perfectly for years. The build of this bike is high quality.
The Carbo Model S, however, has 9 gears and chain driven. Theoretically, with the same motor, shouldn't spinning the pedals on the Model S in the 9th gear be faster than the fixed gear Model X?
No because you get stopped out at 20 mph either way. I have both the S and the X. I much prefer the X just because the carbon fiber belt feels like butter. The S has gear shifting issues after awhile and feels clumsy. Also all of those gears add a lot of weight to the rear wheel and it impacts the speed and performance compared to the very light rear wheel of the X. The X can handle any hill that the S can, you just need to use the throttle to get up to a comfortable pedaling speed, then the assist will kick in.
Yes, they sell an empty seat post with no battery on the Carbo website. I wouldn't want to use it as a regular bike, but you could still technically do it.
Hmmm... 350 watt motor is good but with only 12 miles of range? That's terrible. Dang, the Carbo X was on my shortlist. No more. I'm glad I rewatched this. Thank you.
I have the X with 350w motor and largest battery. I live in NYC and circle the entire island of Manhattan almost everyday on the bike. That is about 3 hours of riding time, which is almost too much range. 12 miles is incorrect with the largest battery. My battery is 2.5 years old too.
The standard bike usually sells for about 2500, it's 3k with the upgraded battery and motor. They do occasionally have sales, probably worth waiting for.
@@ElectricRevolutionI've been looking for data on the peak power of the motor at 250w versus 350 watts. Personally interested in the model s but assuming they're the same. Do you know what the peak power is?
10 miles? I consistently get 30 mile range on mine, but I have the largest battery and the 350w motor. I use the tour mode and typically pedal rather than use the throttle. I have high tire pressure too, which helps a lot (105). For reference, this allows me to completely circle the circumference of Manhattan starting from 79th street on the east side, across to the west side, all the way downtown and back uptown. I can be out for 3 hours constantly pedaling and still have a bar or two of battery when I get back home. 3 hours is plenty of time to cycle on one charge. My ass gets tired of sitting on the bike for that long anyway.
Great video. At $2800, this is literally a richer man's commuting bike because you can get a 38 pound folding ebike with virtually the same specs under $350. I'm sure the components are better on this bike, but for $350, I'd rather just go with the cheaper, than wait for about 3 years when newer technology comes out.
It's worth the money trust me. I've had my X for over 2.5 years and it literally functions like day one still. Absolutely zero issues and I am 240 lbs, live in NYC and absolutely put this bike through hell (bad road conditions, potholes, hills, ice, snow, sleet, speed, getting knocked up by cars and taxis, crashing several times down hills and getting doored several times, flying off of curbs and landing hard on the bike with lots of weight etc). The carbon fiber frame is so strong, belt drive is absolutely butter, motor keeps going like day one after 2.5 years, hydraulic brakes are perfect. It is extremely solid and worth every penny.
Worst bike I ever got in my life. I'm trying to let everyone know don't buy this bike. It broke down. I still can't get it to work customer services garbage they keep sending you parts that no one in the electric bike shop is willing to touch and the customer service has no clue what they're doing and it's so rude. I could show you all the emails if anyone's interested and good luck finding a review on them you have to go on car to get it, do not buy do not buy this bike do not buy this bike. I'm warning you. It is not worth the money the headache and time I'm $2500 in the hole and no one is even trying to buy this piece of garbage.
⚡🤙🏼 *We need more light eBikes!* 🤙🏼⚡
Belt drive is also 🤩
Excellent, intelligent review with great production quality! Thanks
Thanks! I appreciate it
Okay that battery design and placement is just sick. What a handsome little bike!
This is definitely my favorite e-bike. Super light, relatively fast, good battery range and unbelievably durable. I've had my Carbo S and X for 3 years and they operate like day one after replacing the battery, which starts to deplete after 3 years or so. I just wish they could make it a class 3 to go 28mph max speed. I need just slightly more speed and power and it would be absolutely perfect for me in NYC.
How do you like the S vs the X? Is the extra large battery worth while
@@GIedits-vf7re The X is much smoother of a ride thanks to the carbon fiber belt (make sure to get the one with the blue threading on the inside). The carbon fiber belt literally feels like butter, once you use it, you can't go back to a regular metal chain belt. I originally bought the S, but the gear shifting would get misaligned sometimes after changing gears and I just got frustrated with it and bought the X. I live in NYC and we have hills up on the north side of Central Park and the X handles them just as well as the S does, despite the S having all of the gear options. So it was a no brainer for me to switch to the X permanently. You just accommodate for the lack of gears by using the throttle more often when you reach a hill in order to give you the kick start you need to then start pedaling at a fast enough rate to then get the assist from the motor. The largest battery is MANDATORY because it effects the speed. If you get a smaller battery than the max, you can't go as fast. The X is also noticeably lighter on the rear wheel because you don't have all of the gears, so it make it feel faster and more nimble.
Are you serious? Everything on my bike broke and the customer service is all right dude I'm sure you got the bike for free to save this no offense, but I'm still trying to get mine to work after 25 miles on it so
@@BaranDanny What broke on it? I've had no problems in 3 years and put the bike through hell in NYC.
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Can you note bike specs? Is it 6.7 or 10Ah battery? 250 or 350W motor?
I have a link in the description that will take you to their site, you can find all the specs there. I like to show you what you can't find online
A note from the company: 65Km/h is with a 10.5Ah battery and not a 7Ah battery by using LEVEL 1 (ECO assist on flat surface).
Thanks for this helpful review! A front suspension would be nice but then you wouldn't have a 29-pound bike, would you? That being said, a SUSPENSION post would help greatly. I'm using a Thudbuster on my current ebike and there is no way I would ride a hard tail bike without it. But my bike is well over 60 pounds with a large battery... I see that the new 500 Watt Jackrabbit has an optional suspension post but this has no pedals... It's basically a scooter with a seat. Is it possible to add a suspension post to the Carbo?
Hi you keep mentioning bike weights 29 pound, have you measured or just assuming , I bough the same exact bike with same set up and it weights 35 pound ?
Can you double check and update Pkease
i have one, 2 yrs old - biggest drawback is the tiny display readout, barely larger than a postage stamp & nearly unreadable - Carbo says a larger display is due in April '24 - also the frame audibly creaks under pedal load as you can hear in the review
I agree with the readout and the cracking, it's a good idea but needs some tweaking
I own a GoCycle GX, Carbo S and X and just got the Velotric Fold 1. I've now officially transitioned to the Fold 1 because at 1/3rd the price it blows my other 3 bikes out of the water with the super powerful 750 watt motor, throttle that goes to 28 mph and 55 mile range. It is a beast at only $1100. That being said, I am not going to be selling my Carbo X because I think there is still value for a lightweight bike. The Fold1 is still pretty massive and heavy in comparison to the Carbo X (twice the weight and much bulkier). But I can completely feel the power/speed and comfort difference. The Fold1 feels like floating on a VERY FAST cloud. I was trying to wait it out and hope that Carbo would release a 500 watt motor at least but to no avail. I think they will start to lose a lot of market share with these much more powerful Velotric bikes coming out at 1/3rd the cost as they aren't making any updates or innovating anymore. It's a no brainer really the Fold 1 just feels WAY more solid, sturdy, powerful, 10x more comfortable due to the thick 3inch wheels on the Fold 1, and way better range. The only disadvantage is the bulkiness and extra weigh it doesn't really impact me when I am riding it, only when I am taking it up stairs really.
Thoughts on the model S with a proper chain and shifter? Also, is the 350w motor worth it in your opinion? Thanks!
Haven't tried the shifter so can't say although would be nice to have some gears for hilly terrain - I'd say if you life in a flat area, get the belt, if not the geared one and as far as the motor, yeah I think the 350 is ok, they're goal is trying to make this light so adding a 500 doesn't make sense, the 350 almost feels like a 500 because it doesn't have a ton a weight to haul around. It all depends on what you're looking for.
@@ElectricRevolution I haven't found any reviews of the model s. Any plans to test one? We have some pretty serious hills where I live
The 350w motor and largest battery are mandatory if you want to hit the max speed of 20mph. If you have high tire pressure at like 105, you can actually get up to like 23 mph. A smaller battery or motor will slow things down a lot.
@@FunkyChild718would switching to a smaller 47-406 (20x 1.76 inch) tire affect performance?
@@GIedits-vf7re Good question, i've tried all types of tires, from fat tires to slightly thinner tires and I recommend against it if you are over 200lbs as the rear tube is very sensitive to bursting if the tire doesn't allow for enough space. The schwalbe tires NEVER burst as they are wider than most tires. So if you are heavier than 200 lbs I would not change out those tires. They handle very high tire pressure extremely well and have never had any popped tubes with them. I have several layers of high quality cotton rim tape too for reference. Don't use fat tires as they will crack the rims once you inflate the tubes. If you are under 200 lbs, you might not have any issues with the thinner tires, but you definitely need the rim tape in my opinion, or else you might have issues with the tube bursting still.
What's that creaking noise coming from? For a bike that cost 4 grand (CAD), that creaking noise would annoy the heck out of me!
It's from where the handlebars fold
@@ElectricRevolution A common issue with folding bikes.
Can you get this bike repaired and maintained at your local bike shop?
If you're 5'11", for a normally-proportioned rider, how short could they be and still fit the bike? There is no info on that at the Carbo website. With the seatpost in the lowest rideable position, it didn't look like you were squished.
The saddle lowers a lot, so much where it can fit a rider 5'2 or 3 if not smaller. I felt big on it
For people with strong legs, belt drive isn't a pretty option for this bike. Had a Rider1up ebike belt drive and broke the carbon belt twice within a year of using it. Maybe Carbo might change my mind when it arrives but definitely will convert it to standard chain like I did eith my Rider1up
I have both the S (metal chain) and X (carbon belt) and MUCH prefer the X. The carbon fiber belt feels like butter and is perfectly fitted to the bike dimensions (never falls off ever). I've had mine for 2.5 years and am 240 lbs and put a lot of pressure on the bike and it has has held up perfectly for years. The build of this bike is high quality.
I wonder how the upcoming ADO Air 20 Carbon will compare to the Carbo Model X? On paper, they seem very similar.
We shall see
The Carbo Model S, however, has 9 gears and chain driven. Theoretically, with the same motor, shouldn't spinning the pedals on the Model S in the 9th gear be faster than the fixed gear Model X?
No because you get stopped out at 20 mph either way. I have both the S and the X. I much prefer the X just because the carbon fiber belt feels like butter. The S has gear shifting issues after awhile and feels clumsy. Also all of those gears add a lot of weight to the rear wheel and it impacts the speed and performance compared to the very light rear wheel of the X. The X can handle any hill that the S can, you just need to use the throttle to get up to a comfortable pedaling speed, then the assist will kick in.
@@FunkyChild718 Great information. Thank you!
What app are you using on your iPhone that shows speed in the video?
It's called speedometer
Do you know the size when it is folded up? I need measurements for storing in a small rv
Not off the top of my head but I have a link over to the company in the description that should give you that info
is there an option to make it a normal bike if you want to bring it on plane?
I don't think so, you can't remove the battery
Yes, they sell an empty seat post with no battery on the Carbo website. I wouldn't want to use it as a regular bike, but you could still technically do it.
Looks like the ultimate bike, but why on earth did they put in a silly THUMB drive? This is what keeps me from a purchase.
I agree
Hmmm... 350 watt motor is good but with only 12 miles of range? That's terrible. Dang, the Carbo X was on my shortlist. No more. I'm glad I rewatched this. Thank you.
I have the X with 350w motor and largest battery. I live in NYC and circle the entire island of Manhattan almost everyday on the bike. That is about 3 hours of riding time, which is almost too much range. 12 miles is incorrect with the largest battery. My battery is 2.5 years old too.
Scott Addict is 24-25 lbs.
Throttle makes it completely illegal on UK roads
10 mile range is a no, especially spending $3000
What you're paying for is the lightweight and how portable it is, not so much range, this is more of a crowded city type of bike
@@ElectricRevolution you think this is the best bike for putting in a small airplane? size and weight are biggies
The standard bike usually sells for about 2500, it's 3k with the upgraded battery and motor. They do occasionally have sales, probably worth waiting for.
@@ElectricRevolutionI've been looking for data on the peak power of the motor at 250w versus 350 watts. Personally interested in the model s but assuming they're the same. Do you know what the peak power is?
10 miles? I consistently get 30 mile range on mine, but I have the largest battery and the 350w motor. I use the tour mode and typically pedal rather than use the throttle. I have high tire pressure too, which helps a lot (105). For reference, this allows me to completely circle the circumference of Manhattan starting from 79th street on the east side, across to the west side, all the way downtown and back uptown. I can be out for 3 hours constantly pedaling and still have a bar or two of battery when I get back home. 3 hours is plenty of time to cycle on one charge. My ass gets tired of sitting on the bike for that long anyway.
Great video. At $2800, this is literally a richer man's commuting bike because you can get a 38 pound folding ebike with virtually the same specs under $350. I'm sure the components are better on this bike, but for $350, I'd rather just go with the cheaper, than wait for about 3 years when newer technology comes out.
Do you have an example of a bike with similar specs at that price?
It's worth the money trust me. I've had my X for over 2.5 years and it literally functions like day one still. Absolutely zero issues and I am 240 lbs, live in NYC and absolutely put this bike through hell (bad road conditions, potholes, hills, ice, snow, sleet, speed, getting knocked up by cars and taxis, crashing several times down hills and getting doored several times, flying off of curbs and landing hard on the bike with lots of weight etc). The carbon fiber frame is so strong, belt drive is absolutely butter, motor keeps going like day one after 2.5 years, hydraulic brakes are perfect. It is extremely solid and worth every penny.
price is totally unreasonable
Those creaks tho…
Worst bike I ever got in my life. I'm trying to let everyone know don't buy this bike. It broke down. I still can't get it to work customer services garbage they keep sending you parts that no one in the electric bike shop is willing to touch and the customer service has no clue what they're doing and it's so rude. I could show you all the emails if anyone's interested and good luck finding a review on them you have to go on car to get it, do not buy do not buy this bike do not buy this bike. I'm warning you. It is not worth the money the headache and time I'm $2500 in the hole and no one is even trying to buy this piece of garbage.
Only good if you’re short