This is the LIGHTEST electric bike I've EVER reviewed | ADO Air Carbon
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- When ADO got in touch to see if I'd like to be one of the first to try their brand new 12.5kg carbon fibre electric bike with GPS tracking, I couldn't resist.
It has a patented folding mechanism and is so light you forget it's an electric bike. That is until you push down on the pedal and experience the smooth electric assist from the Bafang motor that takes you up to 15.5mph in a heartbeat.
Watch my review as I build it from scratch, put it through its paces around Central London and travel to yonder lands for a much anticipated hill test.
🔗 Find out more on the ADO Air Carbon👇🏻
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00:00 Unboxing
00:58 Features
02:22 First ride
03:26 How it feels
04:17 The start of an adventure
04:36 Who's it for
05:38 The pros of a 20 inch
06:10 Analogue vs Ebike
06:24 Comfort and rider size
06:50 In app features
07:36 Eco mode
07:53 Riding without assist
08:36 Carbon vs Steps
08:59 Transporting via car & train
09:38 Hill test
11:10 Pricing and accessories
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A 5.6% grade being considered a ‘hill’ by Londoners is why we ended up with 250w maximum motors. >15% pretty common where I’m from (the rest of the country)! Edit: 15%, not 20%.
Did you make that up yourself or did you read it somewhere?
@@user-sd3ik9rt6dWales. Pretty sure many areas outside the M25 could claim similar.
@@970357ers
15% are you sure?
Here is a summary of the cycling effort based on grade.
0%: A flat road
1-3%: Slightly uphill but not particularly challenging. A bit like riding into the wind.
4-6%: A manageable gradient that can cause fatigue over long periods.
7-9%: Starting to become uncomfortable for seasoned riders, and very challenging for new climbers.
10%-15%: A painful gradient, especially if maintained for any length of time
16%+: Very challenging for riders of all abilities. Maintaining this sort of incline for any length of time is very painful.
@@970357ers
15% are you sure?
Here is a summary of the cycling effort based on grade.
0%: A flat road
1-3%: Slightly uphill but not particularly challenging. A bit like riding into the wind.
4-6%: A manageable gradient that can cause fatigue over long periods.
7-9%: Starting to become uncomfortable for seasoned riders, and very challenging for new climbers.
10%-15%: A painful gradient, especially if maintained for any length of time
16%+: Very challenging for riders of all abilities. Maintaining this sort of incline for any length of time is very painful.
@@970357ers
15% are you sure? That's TDF elevation!
To calculate grade, divide rise by run and multiply by 100. In cycling a 10% grade is considered quite steep.
Here is a summary of the cycling effort based on grade.
0%: A flat road
1-3%: Slightly uphill but not particularly challenging. A bit like riding into the wind.
4-6%: A manageable gradient that can cause fatigue over long periods.
7-9%: Starting to become uncomfortable for seasoned riders, and very challenging for new climbers.
10%-15%: A painful gradient, especially if maintained for any length of time
16%+: Very challenging for riders of all abilities. Maintaining this sort of incline for any length of time is very painful.
ADO just gets better and better.. the colourways and design is just, wowww
Useful review! Amazing eBike ❤
Thank You electroheads for a wonderful video 📷
Very Good review, nice to see how it goes on public transport and the hill climb.
Would also like to see a full range test as thats one area that often falls short of makers claims.
ADO are really making some very interesting bikes for sure.
Thanks for the great review of the new bike! I have the old Ado 20, and I think I'll buy the new one!
Lovely looking bike. I would love one of those.
Oh boy what a cool bike. I‘d love to have it. Hopefully it will be available soon
just ordered mine - cannot wait!
Where did you order? How much is it?
@@brunoramos1920 indiegogo - campaign finishes on the 7th June 2024
@@brunoramos1920 Google search ADO Air Carbon uk
Looks good & a belt drive wow
Sounds awesome, and appears to manage hills with ease. Love to know how it compares to the Gocycle, and Flit.
I've been holding off getting an e-bike for a while but this maybe the one to make me take the plunge. Great looking e-bike.
Wait for the price, it's going to be a lot.
@@g-r-a-e-m-e- The 40% off price with the Indiegogo promo is 1799EU. You can get 100EU off (1699EU) with a Special coupon (100EU coupon x 200EU value). So in theory the bike will cost around 3000EU. A bit pricey unless you buy with the indiegogo discount.
That's a lovely design
This would be the one for my bad lungs, if it is less than 1 rev and the assist is helping. I love the build and the handlebars. A brilliant review much appreciated.
I've just signed up for the early bird, this one has caught my eye. Wait and see what the price is when more info comes in.
Bike looks great as does the two color paint job and i would love a test ride
It looks like a strong competitor to Brompton electric. Great!
Thanks for the review.
How much is the brompton?
You had me at 12.5kg
This bike looks amazing! the integrated gps is sweet and 12,5Kg is a huge pro, my M20 is around 48Kg with accessories, not an easy task whenever I have to lift it off the ground 😁
You watch that back of yours!!
Now the regular variant is 16kg with similar gear on it, I wonder if this 12.5kg weight is for the whole bike, or if it is sans the battery seatpost, cause when you ride it around you still need to carry the bike and the battery with a seat to be ridden, and then this potentially interesting weight factor could be really limited once you add the 2kg or so.
@Electroheads do you fancy weight lifting check/verification of this bike?
Frankly, I'd have given up the GPS tracking for a geared rear hub motor from the Pros. Or for added mudguards covering both wheels sufficiently well without any fear of rust creeping in...
WOW! I bought one of the first available E-Bikes here in US. It was a 65# behemoth. Although it was fast, it was also difficult to get going, and at slow speeds, it was VERY easy to lose control and fall over or the need to jump off. Not to mention traffic in many US cities fails to exhibit signs of 'Intelligent Life'. Sure there are bike paths, but bicycles (here) are a poor choice for commutes.
The bike you demoed has many of the features I've longed for. Instant take-off, no chain, ton's of basic features, and the big one, the weight.
Right now I'm saving up for a Tesla, which is now my priority. If the ADO was less than $1000 USD, I'd be on the list.
Your video was super! THANK YOU
I did love the voice tone at 58 seconds, I just play it back 5 times lol
You must write "at 0:58" for a link
Nice looking bike and from the review I can see it selling out fast.
I didn't see any information relating to battery capacity or estimated range in the various modes however that seat post looks very substantial.
I got the ADO Air 20 a few months ago (partly because of the review on this very channel!)
I don't want to say I regret it, because it's been a great bike so far, but if I would have known that a carbon version was coming out, I probably would have waited a little longer.
I’m literally sitting here waiting for mine to be delivered when I saw this. I’m pissed.
that would always happen, anyone buying the carbon version will feel the same a few months down the line when v2 of this is out or similar
The ADO Air 20 Electric Bike is currently £1,199.00 (£1,299.00 =8% for @electroheads sale) . The GoCycle is £5,499 (!!) so this one can be expected to be somewhere in the middle, but when it gets in your hands the best part of 4 large will be required ... would you still have chosen it?
Two Air20 @ 1199 or one Air20 Carbon @ 3599?
That's the thing about e-bikes. Like Teslas, there is always a better, newer model around the corner. The problem too is that the resale values on e-bikes must be abysmal. In a way, it's better to get an analog Brompton, perhaps a T-Line. It will take longer to get to your destination but who's in a rush?
It still potentially boils down to the price. Too high and the weight reduction may not be worth it. Instead the geared and fully equipped Pro variant might have been a stronger problem for regular ADO Air 20 sells since its introduction. The carbon foldable 20-incher has already been offered by a few companies, only in a more limited niches offered by the small manufactures, with typical prices 3 times as high for a 3 kg drop from those aluminium regulars... so anyone could have already spent triple the price of an Air 20 for the carbon construction if one did due diligence... now if ADO decides to release the carbon models for under twice the regular unit pricing and offers 40% or similar price cuts to get pretty close to regulars or Pros, then maybe the feeling could be understandable...
If it can do Wimbledon Hill Road, fair play, that's got a pretty steep gradient on it! Even walking up that can be a bit of an effort!
What do you think of the ADO Air Carbon?
i think carbon fiber makes sense for a folding bike
If it had an internal hub gear, even a 3 speed or derailer at the crank it would be mint!
They better add other additional accessories like a splash/mudguards at least, imo I wouldn't go without a carrier or rack. Maybe that's beyond the carbon fibre's limit...
@@toyotaprius79 nah carbon fibre can handle that it just would weight more and would require more testing and stuff like that. edit:well i think they need to add like aluminum inserts to do it but like same probably applies to things like bottom bracket.
Looks nice. 👍
I like the color.
Hi great video 👍👍 can’t wait to find out when they come out as you said curious on price ?? 👍
Again fab video well done 👍
I really like the idea of a fat seat post that doubles as a battery storage.
My estarli e20 has a seat post battery too. Highly rated on here too.
Love the channel, Do you have any reviews lined up for the Elops ld 500 from decathlon?
Thanks for the review. The seat looks a bit sharp but must have been okay otherwise you would said. Looks like it has the power, range and portability. Pity about the kickstand being an optional extra.
Apparently ado upgrading beast too. On my one to buy later in year .
Are you planning to review the ADO Air 28 Pro? Really interested how the new gearbox on that works.
Great review. Would love to see how this and other folding ebikes such as estarli e20.8 cope with Swains Lane, Highgate. Any chance you'd be prepared to take it and some others up there so we can see how they would cope with a max incline of 20%?
Torque sensors are the way to go! I think ADO should make 14-inch and 16-inch versions of this e-bike.
Sparkling video, again, Eilis, how do you do it? Soon as you said CARBON, I think, Eeek... then, stand, = extra, magnets= extra, muddies= extra, I am thinking megabucks... As for hills, you make it look breathtakingly easy with those joyously fit legs of yours, the hill didnt stand a chance. Love the latte look, classic and smart. I am in the queue waiting for the sequel, hope it is a sunny day for you...
that is true re: the optional extras, but for once there is a decent spec as standard with torque sensor, hydraulic brakes, GPS, seatpost lock etc; would usually be on a 'pro' version
It should have a center stand that can also function as a stand when folded, now it rests on the drive belt wheel, just like my ADO Air 20 Pro. Also I miss mudguards. Apart from that it's a beautiful design and much lighter than my bike, which is too heavy to take with you in public transport.
Yeah, mudguards are an essential for any commuter bike. Don't understand why they wouldn't be included as standard.
They should release it with proper mudguards covering the wheels sufficiently, just not the metal ones from the regular's options or Pro's equipment. Maybe plastic and carbon light one to not bump the weight and still promote riding/commuting regardless of weather and road conditions.
But they might just add the basic useless plastic ones from the regular's. Only they'd still increase the weight from the inspiring 12 kilograms they can now use in the product promotion key points.
A kickstand to keep your carbon frame standing in folded and ride-ready positions would have a great option. Instead we need to use the battery seatpost bottom as a stand when folded, and basically lean the bike on something when prepped for travel...
Have you done a comparison between the estarli 20 and the eovolt afternoon 20? I like both not sure which to go for. Any thoughts?
Nice!😊
Will you be reviewing the new ADO 20 Pro version? .. It has a new motor with 3 speed with inbuilt gears in the motor, been hoping for someone to review this new Pro version?
Oh no price , at least it’s a good start with the belt drive, did you mention the gears or did I miss it .
I loved the surprise "Whow", as a spectator I can see the reaction was authentic!
How does the rigidity translate in road use? There is no compliance at all, no flexion in the fork, you didn't mention the seat post being suspended -- I know rigidity makes it more efficient in translating the push on the pedals into movement, but how does it work on London abrasive roads?
I really want to see a comparison between this one and the original Air
I got the air 20 and it is a good ride. The motor kicks in very fast and smooth but you sure have to peddle quite fast to keep it as 25km. It is not hard but still pretty tiring. The new PRO model has a geared motor which looks great and it is too bad that this carbon bike doesn't have it. Also for now missing fenders and a kickstand to be able to use it normally. And I am not sure about not able to adjust the height of the sterring wheel.
Price is around 1700 euro I believe with a voucher
It is suitable for me because my apartment is on the second floor and I want this light weight.Oh, the issue of climbing the hill remains the decisive factor in the matter of purchase, because I live on a hill
Very Cool! :-)
Hi Loving the video's and really like this bike! i currently have a Analog bike. Im hoping to switch to something like this for local stuff and when on holiday, but i currently have a tag along bike for my eldest daughter who has a disability. she is currently 10 and cant see her riding solo for a while do you know if its possible to tow a tag along on an electric bike like this?
Aw, what a cute hill!
LOL. I used to live in Santa Barbara, Calif. There's a hill called Cabrillo Hill". It's a little over 1mile to the top. When I was in superb cycling condition, and had a 20# bike, I'd put the bike into 'Granny', and muscle up the hill. My guess is it was about 10% grade at some spots. Got clocked doing over 50mph going down hill. eeeek
The PVY Libon has two integrated batteries and is also carbon belt drive, I'd love to see you review it together, will you reviewing it?
Hey! Did you happen to weigh the ebike - curious if it really is 12.5 kg with the seat, battery and all. :) Thanks!
That's an interesting question... Fiido Air started its life as a 12.5kg bike, by the time it was actually added to preorders this was bumped to 13.8kg. And ADO did promote the Air 20 as 16kg until they were weighted to actually be 18+ once you factor seatpost with battery and plastic mudguards... maybe this isn't really sub 13 kilos, but closer to 15 when ready to be ridden...
Looks adequate for flattish terrain, though for my area your "hill" is more of a bump in the road. 😉🙂
Nice one. I like this colour.
Do you know how the GPS tracking works? Is it using some internal eSIM to update the location?
Also the bafang motor is not the same as on the Air Pro version with auto gear shift right?
GPS doesn't require a sim. The Air Pro carbon doesn't have gears so this is different than the Air Pro which DOES have auto gears.
@@leewoodford I mean GPS Tracking not just GPS. If this is safety feature how would I know someone nicked my bike if the bike itself does not have connectivity.
@@Marco1271Polo Yes because it has a GPS signal that doesn't require a sim that can be picked up by the app. Think about like an Apple Air Tag (or equivalent) built into the bike that doesn't require a SIM on the Air Tag itself, just an internet connection on the device you are tracking it on.
@@leewoodfordSee AirTags relay on other Apple devices that connect to it via Bluetooth and relay it's location to apple cloud - then the owner can find it's location. They don't even need GPS. If this bike has GPS to track it's location in case the bike is stolen or tempered with how will it's location data be sent back to you? It need's internet connection of some sort.
@@Marco1271Polo Apologies, you are correct, the AirTag is a bad example. The bike has a GPS tracker on it that has a GPS signal
Very good video, I have to say I would love to buy it,
But I weigh 130kg and this bike looks only suitable for "small people".
And too many things missing and requiring extra payment (fenders, rear rack, magnetic buckles),
The price is really not friendly.
Will you test PVY Libon? It has two integrated batteries, providing more value at the same price.
I think I will choose between ADO AIR 20 and PVY Libon.
It appears to be the same frame as the Carbo which has been out for quite a while. I'm looking forward to seeing the pricing.
I live in an older apartment building which only has a fire escape type metal staircase out front. I have to haul my bikes up and down that death trap. I need a super light bike before i break my neck.
Eilis, you should get Q for your shed to organize it.
Super review. Can I ask if anyone knows about their Customer Support? Being a Chinese company I fell a bit wary to order from them in case something goes wrong or need attention...
Still waiting to see a review of the ADO DECE 300C
It really is the perfect commuter bike, very little maintenance and wear because of the single speed belt, very light bike, powerful even with steep hills, since it's a foldable bike it take very little space in a flat, only downside maybe no front fork and its pricey
Did you weigh the bike? As they have been off with the weights of some of their previous bikes.
Kickstand, wheel magnets, fenders, handlebars, seat and frame are "Optional Extras" 49999999 each.
i wish Ride1Up would sell the CF-racer1 in the UK, 13kg full sized carbon road e-bike
you could use a forward shipping service toget it from usa to UK
i think small cargo e-bike is the future
Ive got a ADO beast and i love it. The only downside is the weight. It goes up steep hills no problem. Love the air in black, shame no kickstand at the moment. The world of e-bikes is going to get lighter over the next few years.
Apparently beast is getting upgraded too. It's on my to buy in November (best month for income ) . Did you buy UK or Europe version.. one has throttle sng goes faster than UK limit.
@@simonsaysrewind I bought the UK one. It's my cruising bike, so I like to chill out on it.
range, throttle only versus assist?
I want 1
I've been thinking about the ADO Carbon. In NYC, however, all electric bikes must be UL Certified. The ADO is not, unfortunately. Also, not related, I would love for you to test the Hummingbird E-bike. It weighs a featherlight 10.4kg!
*Amazin how light it is!*
😂⚡️🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽⚡️
Is the carbon frame safe? Shock proof?
I was really impressed by this bike from the review and just found it’s got an Indiegogo campaign where you can get one for about £1,550 at current exchange rates. Sorely tempted but it says it’s only designed for people up to 190cm tall and the seat height maxes out at 100cm. I’m 196cm tall so I’m not sure how well it will work for me. ☹️
5:35 you talking about stability…
meanwhile your smartphone… 😂
I wonder if one could get a stand mounted to the rear wheel hub plugs. I saw such in a few cheaper older designs from other Chinese manufacturers... maybe such an option could be the answer to this need. If ADO releases a stand that is separate from the bike to be used at bike's storage spot, it'd be useless for on the go stops where kickstand serves its purpose best.
Furthermore, I wonder if one could mount some plastic more-coverage mud guards, front and rear, as the metal units sold by ADO with the rear rack typically went for €100-150+ and that's pretty steep... yet for a lot of the areas such a feature is a must, not an option. It's weird they do not come with at least the plastic ones regular Air 20 came with (useless how the rear one was in proper wet conditions)...
Where we can buy it?
The new Fiido Air is 13.5kg and isn’t a folding bike. I’d be really keen to see your review that! Will you be reviewing it?
Fiido Air, albeit light, is a somewhat big wheeled city bike with 70+ cm of step-over height and seat post at 92+ cm at the least with about 10 cm range up, and non-removable battery... so a light, but very different animal...
Perhaps this should be better juxtaposed or compared with the regular or Ado Air 20 Pro... the cost per kg saved could be very crucial.
Still, Fiido Air could potentially be interesting if the pricing is kept close to eg. Tenways and their also battery non-removable CGO600...
According to their website, it will be from £1,473, can be ordered now.
The weight is amazing tho
I own the predecessor made in aluminum. it was supposed to be lightweight as well. but when you add mudguards and rear rack plus a thick chain lock. then it was really a massive hassle getting up stairs. sadly.... So I am really considering getting this one, but hearing that the 12.5 kg is withoutl kickstand, guards, rack, lock... I'm afrid this will be same story all over again.
Further more, they release a pro version of the ado air 20 alu, which is not single speed. and one thing i wish was different about the non pro, is that it could go just a bit higher gear, I don't like pedaling like a crazy just to go 25. and seeing that this new carbon version is also single speed is putting me a bit off
It's 30lbs. My XL moutain bike (with 160mm front shock/130mm rear shock and 2.3 knobby tires - weights 27lbs)....
It has a 2kg engine and at least a 2 kg battery attached to it? If not? Your bike would be above 18 kg..
My old G-Tech e-bike was only 14kg… belt drive… didn’t fold though
If they did it for £2000, it would be a no-brainer purchase option
Looks great. BTW, what's wrong with calling human-powered bikes what they have always been called: pushbikes.
someone needs to manufacture a lightweight folding bike with dual motors. many people live with hills and grades and not in a town that is completely level.
dual suspensions and the battery elsewhere would be nice because you could replace the seat with a suspension post and a seat of your choice. sure these may add a bit of weight but is justified in towns with bad roads.
1 motor is at least 2kg...i think the functionality of being lightweight will be influenced a lot
Does anyone know what the real, not the claimed weight is?
We want to know how much? Make it a fair price and occupy the market with this. Thank you
What's 're Max rider weight?
120kg
I built a ebike my self it weight about 16 kg and it's a carrera
Can you fit a dog carrier on
When's the Pedibal Cite review???
There are some updates being made to the Cite, so once that's all done I'll be right on it!
@@Electroheads Well, I bought one anyway
On batteries and transport the greatest success so far has been electric bikes, scooters and micro cars. Batteries need to get a lot better to succeed in the rest of transport. Perhaps in the next year or three? At 82 with balance and health problems I'm for public transport--never fly.
Do you know if we can add a luggage rack and mudguards ?
i would say no given what they say about the kickstand.
You don’t feel guilty at all for leaving that non-e-bike guy in the dust. Shame! I like the removable seatpost/battery feature, and the weight, but I’m leery of the carbon fiber.
I thought they banned E-bikes on the trains ? 😊
Think I’ll stick to my Mycle Compact for now ….i’m not expecting this to be cheap and as i got mine almost new for less than £500..its going to be nowhere near that
For me kick stands have become such a convenience, this is a big drawback on this bike
There should be 3 modes, Eco Mode, Sports Mode & BEAST MODE 😂.. Will defo buy it, if it comes with throttle !!
It is a shame that most of your folding e-bikes seem to be sold out every time I look.
Are you interested to test our ebike?
6:13 i usually do the opposite. i smoke most of the ebikes with my analog bike and it isn't even good bike. i just put out so much more power than regular ebike.😀
There’s this one guy who I commute alongside quite regularly and he is a rocket on his analogue bike! It’s truly awesome to see. You must share some legs of steel
My analogue bike is faster than my ebike on the flat and going downhill. But my ebike is definitely faster going uphill and pulling away from traffic lights! (And requires a lot less effort.)
@@barrymiller3385 for me the biggest issue when pulling away from traffic light is that my rear casette is too dense. it is so dense that i gotta spam the shifter so much that sometimes even the chain gets tangled but to be fair my legs output similar amount of peak power to pro cyclists so it's not that surprising that ebikes have worse acceleration than me. 😀
Wait a second. I thought you are not allowed with ebikes on public transport aka train.
love it😂🇬🇧🇩🇿🏴☠️🇦🇼🇺🇸🇰🇵🇯🇵🇦🇲🇦🇲
No suspension
1800 euros early bird price i think
would also be better if it had an unlockable speed up to around 20mph and of course an optional throttle