Now imagine learning Italian for three years in high school so you can finally hold a conversation in Italian with nonna but you forgot she's Sicilian and nothing makes SENSE
Based on the video, Sicilian is not really that far off from Toscana Italian that everyone speaks now. Just a few things, but I think Sicilians can understand that type of Italian since it is used in all media now.
Wow, the comments 🙃😂 My grandparents are from Bari, they speak Barese, a dialect I believe. I love Sicilia and my friend Marco speaks Italian, Arabic, Sicilian and English. When he went over words with me, some Sicilian words were closer to Arabic than Italian. That's all I got 😂 I love Italy and Sicilia 💛
English: "Where ist the bathroom" Sicilian: "Unn'è un bagnu" In Tunisia we say: "weeno el bano" or "weeni beat el bano" A big love to our brothers and sisters from the other side of the sea
After the distruction of Cathago, from the I century a.E.V. to the I century E.V. Romans transferred 300.000 Samnites and Hirpines from Campania (Italian area) to the re-born Carthago (Iunonia Carthago) and to the contiguous territory, now kown as Tunisia. Gaius Sempronius Gracchus, Gaius Iulius Caesar and is adoptive son Gaius Iulius Caesar Octavianus make this. Sicily was arab and berber territory from VIII to X century E.V. a.E.V. = ante Era Vulgaris
@Frosty I'm Italian. If you read what I wrote above, you can understand. All Mediterranean people (populus, Latin language) are descending from Roman citizens (romanae genus). The German aren't so. If your mother language is the English language, think at a fact: All intellectual and spiritual verbal terms owned by English language are derived from Latin or Greek ancient languages. German (or Slavic) languages aren't European, but Barbarian languages. People of Lybia, Tunisia, Maroc, Egypt aren't Arab, only they read the religious texts in Arabic language.
Lot of butthurt italians in the section comments. Italy as a country was created only in 1860. But the whole of the south (from Abruzzo to Sicily) was already united in 1130 (first as political union between the Kingdom of Naples and the Kingdom of Sicily and then as a single entity known as Kingdom of the Two Sicilies). All the local languages you find in these parts of Italy ARE NOT Italian dialects, but are variations of either the NEAPOLITAN or the SICILIAN language. Abruzzese, Molisano, Pugliese, Lucano and Neapolitan itself belong to the first group. Calabrese, Salentino and Sicilian itself belong to the second group. Now, Neapolitan and Sicilian are LANGUAGES, not dialects of Italian. The same way Catalan is a LANGUAGE and not a dialect of Spanish. Some Neapolitan words are more similiar to Spanish and Catalan than they are to standard Italian (a female child in Italian is "bambina", in Neapolitan is "nenna", in Catalan is "nena", in Spanish is niña). The same goes for Sicilian which unlike Neapolitan also had some Arab influence before 1130. So the video is entirely correct. Saying "language differences between Italian and Sicilian" is not an attempt against the "italianess of Sicilians". Today Sicilians are Italians, everybody knows that. It's just comparing two different languages, as you would Spanish and Catalan, without implying that Catalans aren't Spanish. Sure some Sicilians don't feel Italians and some Catalan don't feel Spanish, but that's a political issue, leave it out of this.
Gaetano Piccolo, UNESCO says that ALL local languages from northern and southern Italy aren't dialect of Italian and are minority romance languages. Not only the southern ones. I could write a long list to show you how the northern local languages are more related to French rather than Italian, and there are also German words in them. Just saying...
Gaetano: Correct, not to push my own post, but I posted similar above, as well as Recent DNA academic studies that show Sicily and Southern Italy cluster together, Central Italians cluster together, although closer to Southern Italians, and Northern Italians cluster. all 3 of these cluster right next to each other. Outside of Southern and Central Italy, the closest Cluster are Greeks. Nothern Italians closest cluster are Spaniards and French, not Germans!, and certainly not Nordic Swedes, Danes and Norwegians. I have provided links to the articles. Very well done studies and interesting data.
@@pensatoreseneca Nothing wrong with being a farmer, my great grandparents immigrated from Sicily and were farmers, mill hands, etc. There Great Grandson is now a Tenured Full Professor at a major R1 University in the USA. Oh well. More to the "Who" Sicilians are, I posted a public post that has several academic peer reviewed Genetic Studies of Italian Populations, and how they cluster, and Greeks and who they cluster with. The Evidence is consistent. Sicily and Southern Italians form 1 CLuster. Central Italians form a CLuster, although 1 Region, Aquila clusters with Southern Italians, making Central Italians on average closer to Southern Italians. Northern Italians form another Cluster. Outside of Italy, the Southern Italians-Siclians and Central Italians closest cluster are Greeks. Northern Italians closest cluster are Spaniards and French (Not Germans, and certainly not Nordic Swedes, Danes and Norwegians).
That was a bad example Catalan is not Spanish people they are Catalan their own people otherwise you wouldn’t have a Catalan autonomous region they are not like the same as in Sicily or Napoli which you do consider as Italian people But in Spain you have Spanish, basque and Catalan 3 different people I don’t know much about basque so I won’t talk much about them but Catalan is only in family with the Latin people like Spanish, French Italian and Portuguese etc Portugal was also a part of Spain before but they are not Spanish but Portuguese so they also got their own country from Spain
Man, I’m so amazed how for me, a Brazilian Portuguese speaker, is much easier to understand and even speak the Sicilian language. Didn’t know it was like that.
The sicilian heard in this video is spoken in the west of the island Palermo Trapani. All those "sicilian" sentences would be different in the east of the island like in Catania or Syracuse. There are thousands of variations and the differences are at times noticeable even in between cities or villages that are not far away from each other.
Sure! If I spoke my variety of Sicilian (South-eastern Sicilian), many people from Palermo would be unable to entirely understand what I am saying. They would just get the gist
Puerto Ricans speak Spanish. Hawaiians have Hawaiian language, as well as Pidgin. The Cherokee people speak Tsalagi. They're all part of the United States, but there is still a differentiation between them. Okinawa is a part of Japan, but many of the people there prefer to call themselves Okinawan. Sicily is a part of Italy, but people from Sicily still call themselves Sicilian, and while Italian and Sicilian are of the same linguistic group, they're different enough that someone from, say, Milan will have no idea what a person from Palermo is talking about, when they speak in their Sicilian dialect. Let's not be pretentious.
Exactly I always say Sicily is like the Puerto Rico of Italy there’s many different subcultures and ethnicities that influence the people and the Language they are part of Italy just like Puerto Rico is a territory of the US but they still call themselves Puerto Rican not American like we say Sicilian not Italian. And the language is different. Someone from Piemonte isn’t going to speak like someone from Palermo just like someone from San Juan doesn’t speak like someone from Madrid. Somehow people can’t resolve the distinctions in their minds idk it’s simple to me.
Hell my own grandparents never understood each other which was why I was like what do I take Italian or do I take Spanish and try Sicilian at home idk?
First of all America is a continent not a country anyone born in America is American not need to be born in THE UNITED STATES ! second Puerto Ricans never call themselves “ Americans “ we all know PR is part of of the US just business purposes, is not the same situation as Italy and Sicilia. Good example though. :) oh and nope America is not divided in South and North America just one big continent with a south side and a north side and the Caribbean Region which is in the north of the Americas.
@@DonaldActivo American is usually meant to describe someone from the U.S. in the English language. Rarely is it used to describe what continent someone is from. Usually the context gives this away.
When I was a kid my Sicilian grandma would say "figu bedu" to us. I didn't know what it meant, only that it was an endearment. About 30 years later when I took Italian lessons I realized she'd been saying "figlio bello" or "figlia bella" - beautiful son/daughter.
Sicilian, like Romanian uses "cu" instead of "con", "unn'e" (Rom: "unde" ) instead of "dov'e", "M'a scusari" (Rom: "Ma scuzati") instead of "Mi scusate"
@@mickael1277 apropo, erau mai multe greseli acolo pe care le-am corectat. "unne" era probabil "unni e" deci de-aia se scria "unn'e". Si in romana e "scuzati" nu "scusati". "Educa-te" nu e "educatie" + "tine", ci verbul "a educa" + (pe tine) "te".
Something that must be said is that Sicily is a big island with many cities and the dialect changes from a city to another , for example some words in Palermo have a meaning totally different than in Catania . Or are pronounced and spelled totally differently .
Sicilian (sicilianu; Italian: siciliano), also known as Siculo (sìculu) or Calabro-Sicilian,[4] is a Romance language spoken on the island of Sicily and its satellite islands.[4] It is also spoken in southern Calabria (where it is called Southern Calabro),[4][5] specifically in the Province of Reggio Calabria,[6] whose dialect is viewed as being part of the continuum of the Sicilian language.[7] Central Calabria, the southern parts of Apulia (Salentino dialect) and Campania (Cilentano dialect), on the Italian peninsula, are viewed as being part of the broader Far Southern Italian language group (in Italian italiano meridionale estremo).[8] Ethnologue (see below for more detail) describes Sicilian as being "distinct enough from Standard Italian to be considered a separate language"[4] and is recognized as a "minority language" by UNESCO.[9][10][11][12] It has been referred to as a language by the Sicilian region.[2] It has the oldest literary tradition of the modern Italian languages. The end!
My friend, by chance, are you aware of migration links between Sicily (Messina) and Firenze?? My great-great grandparents were Sicilian, however it is believed their son, my great grandfather, was born in Firenze! Our surnames are GIGLIA and SMIROLDO. Thank you for the help :) Kind of a family mystery.
Where the demonstration failed was what part of Sicily was she from? I would say that 6 of the 9 Sicilian provinces might not agree with her exact phrasing.
Scots is like that. I am lowland Scots but struggle with Doric up in the north east but am fascinated by the variation in the form of languages nonetheless. I lived in Sicily for 12 years BTW!!
this is too funny..... I am 2nd generation Sicilian American but learned proper Italian in college and my grandparents speak a Sicilian dialect to each other.... and therefore cannot understand me... to further confuse everyone here
My Great-Grandmother was from Palermo, Sicily. She was the last generation to know the Italian language. (My Grandfather and his siblings knew a little, but never became fluent.) I so badly want to start picking up the language (Sicilian) and not only carry on the traditions which I've heard from my Grandaunts, but also be able to read the love letters which my Great-Gma wrote to my Great-Gpa (they're in Italian)
Buongiorno DUB! The first step to learning Italian, is to start! (we know your grandparents would be proud) Take a look to learn more here: mangolanguages.com/available-languages/learn-italian/
Sicilian dialect comes (together with old Greek language) straight from hellenic, ancient time. Sicilians should be Proud of this amazing heritage, they should learn and care to keep the dialect alive! To me Sicily is the most beautiful place on Earth and I share my best feelings about the place with all my friends (I am from Poland).
Italian standard exists because it's the language of italian state, but Sicilian hasn't a standard version so there's tens of different ways to tell the same concept, with several inflection, noun and phrasal structure.
@@Lunacki1 no. Tuscan Dolce Stil Novo, who informed Tuscan literature and then Italian literature, is derived from mediaeval Sicilian poetry but vulgar Sicilian evolved indipendently for 7 centuries, so current form of Sicilian and Italian language are very different.
@@calogerohuygens4430 i Never told that that the actual Sicilian is the same of old Sicilian but I am telling you that old toscan (and thus Italian) comes from Sicily
English: I can't find anything in this mess! Italian: Non posso/riesco a trovare niente in questo bordello! Sicilian: Unn pozzu/ci rinesciu a truvari nenti na stu bordellu!
I’m Sicilian but I just wanted to say Italian and Sicilian dialect/language (whatever you wanna call it) is different. Italian is more Latin and Sicilian is from many different languages and Latin but very similar but different to italian. Sicilian nationality wise are italian ,but my family tells people that they are Sicilian not “I’m italian” ,but yes both are italian ,but culture is a little different. genetically though Sicilians are somewhat different from Italians. :)
um brooke, there isn't such thing as ''Italian culture and Sicilian culture''. There are 20 different Italian cultures (each one for every region of Italy), and Sicilians resemble other southern Italians. Moreover there are many other Italians who don't feel Italian, for example some people from Veneto, Valle d'Aosta, Trentino Alto Adige, Sardinia, and there's nothing like ''genetically Italian'' as Italians from Trieste, for example, have historical ties with Istria and Slovenia and different culture from, say, Sardinians, Marchigiani, Pugliesi...there are some Sicilians who get very offended if you don't consider them to be Italian.
@P'lartevi პლართევი Sicilian actually influenced Tuscan Italian as the Sicilian School of Poets, formed by Roger, made sure all the ancient writings of Sicily were preserved and it turned into really the first Italian Literature. Dante and Petrarch borrowed heavily from the Sicilian School. In terms of words, Sicilian is a Romance language, only 1% of the words are from Arabic, and that mostly relates to Foods the Saracens introduced. Sicilian words are 56% from Latin, 15% from Greek and 13 from Spanish (Latin language), 6% French (Latin Language) [Spain and the Bourbons(French) have control over Sicily after the Normans), Provencal, which I think is a Northern Italian Dialect about 1.6% and Catalan, another Spanish language about 1.6% per a 1989 work by Salvatore Giarrizzo entitled Dizionario etimoogico Siciliano. So definitely good chunk of Greek, a little Arab, but not really much.
This is really nice, videos like this help the general public realize that, though closely related, Sicilian and other regional languages of Italy are indeed independent languages and not dialects of official Italian! Congrats for your educational vid, grazie/grazi and saluti dal Brasile.
@@potita24 I'm sorry but where in my comment did you read anything about Sicilian language being similar to Spanish (i.e. Castilian, since in Spain itself there are several regional languages as well)? Either you replied to the wrong comment or you didn't understand mine.
In almost all Sicily the D consonant becomes R-sound when before and after there is a vowel (or nothing). Di unni si = Ri unni si. After an N, the G consonant is not pronounced (as in english ring, sing, king), Bagnu, Benvenuta e Ti amo are modern expressions , all italianisms. A Sicilian says "ti vogghiu" as in Spanish "te quiero".
The offical standard version of Italian is from Florence. From Great Britain its RP English. From Spain its Castilian. From China its Mandarin, etc. Lots of variations, idioms , slang, accents and dialects live around the standard versions. Even in little Denmark there are definite variations of language depending upon which part of the country you live in. The USA is no exception and Americans do have a something called "Standard English"except everyone in the USA thinks that they do speak Standard English. In this video, if they had spoken with a woman from Sardinia or Italian Tyrol she would probably sound more or less different from both of the women in the video. "Italian" and "Sicilian" are not 2 different languages, in the same sense that Russian is a different language from Spanish., for example.
Only partly true. Neapolitan and Sicilian (from which all Southern Italian dialects from Abruzzo to Sicily come from) are in fact languages. Sometimes these languages are more similar to Spanish, Catalan, French and Greek than they are to standard Italian (which as you rightly say is based on the Tuscan language). For example to say "female child" in Neapolitan you say "nenna", which is very similar to the Catalan "nena". But in Italian you say "bambina". To say "down" in Neapolitan you say "abbasc" which is close to the Spanish "abajo". But in Italian you say "sotto". To say "vase" in Neapolitan you say "cantaro" which is very close to the Greek "kantharos". But in Italian is "vaso". Don't mix political borders with language. Italy as a country has existed only since 1860, just 78 years before the start of World War II. But the Kingdom of Naples and the Kingdom of Sicily have existed since 1130 (sometimes under foreign influence such as Spanish or French, sometimes as indipendent kingdoms in a political union with each other). These nations were basically invaded by the Northern Italian state of Piedmont (sponsored by the Brits) in 1860, they were economicall impoverished (Southern Italian emigration to the Americas began only after this period) and they were made to forget that they were nations. Thus they were told that Neapolitan ans Sicilian are Italian dialects. But that was a political move.
My dad came to the USA from Sicily in his 20's. To his family & friend's surprise, he married an American woman of non-Sicilian/Italian descent. This has nothing to do with the language, but I found it interesting when I had once referred to us as Italian, and my dad seemed miffed & let me know we were Sicilian, NOT Italian ! lol
Comunque anche "l'italiana" come la "siciliana" proviene da una qualche regione di Italia, anche lei avrà un dialetto, se etichetti una come "siciliana" dovresti quantomeno specificare la provenienza dell'altra..
In Italy what is typically referred to as "dialect" is in fact generally speaking regional or minority languages. Italy has an unusual political history when it comes to its linguistic diversity and treats its romance languages differently than the rest of Europe and mainstream linguistics.
Puoi qualcuno quando parla Italiano con una persona chi parla Sicillana? O ci sono troppo differenze? E non solo un dialetto non mai una lingua diverso? Per favore, qualcuno aiutami e dimmi una riposta chiara.
anyway the sicilian accent of this girl was very "italian from an english" And yes Sicily is part of Italy but with a different story behind, different blood, different language as well, but in sicily we also speak italian....
American of Sicilian Italian ancestry. Actually, Sicily and Southern Italy cluster together DNA wise, Central Italy forms a cluster, and Northern Italy forms a cluster. All 3 cluster right next to each other (see my post above that provided academic peer reviewed DNA studies). Outside of Italy, Sicily-Southern Italy and Central Italians cluster closest to Greeks. Northern Italians closest cluster are Spaniards and French.
Italy is an artificial creation of a nation. At one point not too long ago, Italy was made up of many different nations with different cultures and dialects that some would argue are different languages from one another. So for those who are so ignorant as to insist that all Italians are “Italian”, and that Italian is one language, pick up a history book and come back later. I say this as a half Sicilian whose family comes from Ragusa. I was brought up around Sicilians who are almost foreign compared to mainland Italians.
Actually, if you go back in history, that is not accurate. The Roman empire dates to the 8th century BC and was pretty much in Lazio and modern Umbria, by the late 4th century BC, Campania and other areas of Central Italy were part of it, by 275 BC Puglia, and by 265 BC before the first punic war, everything South of the Po Valley to the straights of Messina were part of Rome. By 250 BC, Sicily was part of Rome and by about 220 BC, Sardinia and by the end of the 3rd Century BC, all of modern Northern Italy. So all modern Italy was united as part of Rome till the 5th century BC, when the German tribes came crashing down from North of the Alps. The Byzantines kept it pretty much till about 650 AD, and it split into various kingdoms. For the next 500 years, much of Italy was City-states with the Church of Rome, the Papal states controlling Central Italy. However, starting with the Norman liberation of sicily in about 1061, everything South of Rome (along with Abruzzo) was unified under the Kingdom of Sicily/Kingdom of Naples/Kingdom of Two Sicilies. Culturally, the Catholic faith being the integral part of not only religion, but cultural, art, archtecture, etc has tied Southern Italy with Rome at least since the 3rd century BC. With the exception of the Saracen rule from 965 (when Messina finally fell) to 1061, when the Normans came in, and the about 50-70 year period when the Saracens had control over parts of Puglia around Bari, Sicily, Calabria, Campania, Puglia, Basilicata and Abbruzzo have been unified. So I reject your thesis 100%
Italy is like Spain. The difference is that in Spain other languages are recognized while in Italy they are called dialects to be considered some kind of inferior things, even if they are actual different languages. Only in central Italy there are dialects of Italian language. In the South and North there are different linguistic areas. Italy has dozens of languages, inclunding a variant of Catalan spoken in Alghero.
But you can still speak Italian to sicilians as we r bilingual. Just like you can speak Spanish to Catalans. However in Catalonia Catalan is considered an official language, but in Sicily sicilian is not considered official, only Italian is.
Italians adopted the dialect of Tuscany. The Sicilans kept their original dialect. If I offend anyone; I'm sorry but I have to tell it like it is. There were many dialects in Italy but Northern Italy chose to adapt the Tuscan traditions and dialect.
I'm not offended but your comment isn't correct. It's not true that ''Northern Italy chose to adapt the Tuscan traditions and dialect.''. The Tuscan dialect is the Italian language. Italian is mandatory in every school of Italy, from north to south. Northern Italy never chose to adapt the Tuscan traditions...only the Tuscan people. Other northern Italians still keep alive their own traditions, cuisine, habits, music, and our original dialects. You can compare the region Veneto to the south for its very high percentage of dialect speakers, there are many people who still care and speak their dialect all over the north though. Trust me, I'm from northern Italy, I know what I'm talking about.
Travelling through Italy through the languages and dialects map, you will discover that the further North of Rome you go, the more the Italian dialects reassemble French. But,the further South you go, they resemble Spanish. Infact entire phrases and words of some Southern dialects are identical to the Spanish ones. If you come from certain regions of Central an Northern Italy, it is virtually impossible to understand southern dialects, like Sicilian or Calabrian because these are even worse than dialects to understand. They are like a completely different language. The words for certain objects will be totally different and you could not guess their meaning. A dialect, like say American or Australian or Scottish English might have a weird accent and the odd strange words eg the American "fall" being "autumn" in Aussie English. But, in southern Italian dialects, like Sicilian, there will be many such words, place weird pronunciations and accents and, also it will affect the grammatical structures in the language. I am not Sicilian or Calabrian so I can't understand them but I tried to teach some Sicilian friends how to speaker Italian. We ended up having arguments over the correct words to denote certain objects eg eye glasses. My Sicilian friends argued they were correct and I was wrong because "that's what they say in Palermo". My parents told me to tell them that what I say is how they say it in Florence and the Florentine language or dialect was the one that eventually became the official Italian language. I tried that but it didn't work. They insisted that what they say in Palermo is the correct Italian word and they even quoted ancient Latin roots of their form of a particular noun eg the word for reading glasses. The Sicilian form relates to the Latin form denoting a lense, whereas the Italian form relates to a Latin form that describes something worn on the eyes and has the "eye" root mentioned in the noun. I had to finally give up arguing about it. I was so mad about it that I told my parents who just shrugged it off and said "What do you expect? They are nice people but they are not really Italians, so you can't expect them to speak Italian. They speak Sicilian in their land." But, even so, I found their unusual customs, music traditions, folklore etc interesting, even if it was virtually impossible to understand what they were talking about. Sometimes Sicilian women would visit us and start talking in Sicilian. I knew neither my mother nor I could understand them but mum would put on an act like she understood them because they seemed like nice people and they came with gifts for friendship. When I asked mum what these Sicilians had said, she'd hold her hands out and just say, in her flat,deadpan style "Beh... I dunno... Ma we must be polite, even if we can't un derstand them..." That made no sense to me. Either we learn their language or they should learn to speak Italian. Speaking in dialect was forbidden in my home because it makes one seem so rough and vulgar, a bit like English or Aussie street guttertalk. There was no way they would ever agree to let me learn Sicilian if I wasn't even allowed to speak own dialect.But, fortunately, my Sicilian friends and could both communicate in English. That solved the problem.It didn't feel natural discussing things Italian in English but it was easier this way than trying to speak our native tongues.
Untrue. The more North you go, the more they resemble BOTH French and Spanish. The more you go South, the least they do. The only (few) similarities between Southern Italian and Sicilian dialects and Spanish is because of Spanish/Aragonese colonization. In the end you have to remember that both French, Catalan, Spanish and Portuguese are all part of the same family (Western Romance languages or Gallo-Romance) that’s not the same as the Italo-Dalmatian family. Sardinian language, on the other hand, is actually very similar to Spanish to the point of sounding almost like a mix of the two languages + ancient Roman Latin.
I would like to say something: we Italians all speak Italian but EVERY REGION OF ITALY HAS HIS DIALECT! For example I am Italian and Sicilian (because I live in Sicily, one of the Italian regions) In the video they also had to write the region of origin of the lady on the left. And also for those who write 'this is not Sicilian' I would like to specify that the Sicilian changes depending on whether you live in eastern or western Sicily
I'm Sicilian. There are differences in the language, but they are not major. Each can understand the other. After WWII, the new Italian government gradually eliminated the numerous dialects. While some do still exist, basically one language spoken throughout the country. The last time I was in Sicily was 1977. The Fiorentino was spoken by nearly everyone. Those born and raised before WWII knew Sicilian, but most people spoke the modern Italian. Venetian, Sicilian, Florentine, Molisano - they are all Italian.
@@mets23q the words are quite similar. If i read a tale in sicilian i ubderstand 80%. Without knowing it. Of course some of the words in the video are selected on purpose to make sicilian seem totally ununderstandble.
If you're going to study italian you're going to study what is known as "standard italian" which is the language taught in schools in italy. There's no such difference as north and south italian but rather various dialects (although it would be more correct calling them regional languages) spoken all over the peninsula and sicilian is one of those.
Funny how even though I've never spoken a lick of Italian or Sicilan in my life my knowledge as a Spanish speaking Puerto Rican/Mexican helped me understand some of what they were saying without the translatuon like "Ti amo" is Te Amo in Spanish for example
I know this is an old video but my grandmother is Sicilian but born in the USA. Her parents immigrated from Sicily when she was one. English is her second language and the Sicilian that she grew up speaking is different than the Sicilian that they speak now does anybody know where I can go about learning the old Sicilian language that she speaks?
My great grandmother Maria Portela is from Sicily and grew up in Cuba. I wish to learn Sicilian language. She has Spanish blood in her from her ancestors but i already know Spanish. Every aspect of my family and my mom are literally that one common among Italians and Sicilians which is that hand thing they do.
You actually did the right thing my friend! Finally! I met a lot of Americans who come to Sicily and start to speak sicilian, the problem?... Well, sometimes they spoke "ancient sicilian", the one their great-grandparents spoke, every language and dialect evolves, and sometimes it was so hard to understand them, I had to switch to my broken English to communicate with them. Learning Italian is the right choice, we all speak Italian in sicily (at least the younger generations), If you speak Italian we will be able to communicate with you and help you if you need something. You did the right thing learning Italian 👍✅
So. I am a Polish person who lives in Sicily, and start learning Italian. My A2 dropped to 0 when I Encounter first Italian Grandma who asks me about something and I didn't have clue what she is saying to me xD
we're all italians and thats it .even if you are italian from brazil or argentina or france or canada or america or switzerland or uruguay germany we are all italians ,have some pride
@Aj00098 Hey, learning the basis of Italian will help you go far! We're glad this video helped highlight just some of the differences between regions, dialects, and languages :)
Taha Hasan Thats unlikely since no other basic word in sicilian is derived from arabic. The only sicilian words derived from Arabic are specialized vocabulary from specific categories like agriculture and some cuisine words. All basic words are from Latin. Just like munnu (world) is from Latin mundus. Note the ND to NN similar to unde-unni.
Saying "She's Italian" without mentioning her region was like saying that Sicilians are not Italians... Imagine if you were watching a video about American accents and they wrote "She's from the US/American" next to one participant and "She's from Texas" next to other one, as if Texas was a different country or something. I'm not even from Sicily, but this kind of mistakes pisses me off to some extent 'cause they spread wrong information all around the globe, under the pretext of "educating" people
Do we have a lot incommon. In spanish i work: yo trabajo in sicilian: ju/iu/jo or eu travagghiu and i italian: io lavoro. Sicilian language/dialect had a lot of taken words from the spanish language and from aragon now catalonia.
I'll write it in capital letters because lu looks identical to Iu (iu) in this lower case font. " NUN LU CAPISCIU " (Noon Lou Kah-PEE-shoe) depending on the area it could be condensed in conversation to: NU' LU CAPISCIU , NU' 'U CAPISCIU or 'UN 'U CAPISCIU I'm sure there are other examples in different Sicilian towns' dialects.
I‘m half sicilian (mother‘s side) and half tunisian (fathers side) i really want to learn the sicilian accent because it‘s very hard for me to understand my nonna when we visit her in palermo
i visited sisilia before i'm Moroccan i speak 4 language arabic french spanish english i heard that italy language easy some words and you will be nice tourist but in sicily people there makes me feels like i'm from mars the real problem is people there they don't speak any other language except Sicilian :)
Is anyone aware of migration links between Sicily and Firenze?? My great-great grandparents were Sicilian, however it is believed their son, my great grandfather, was born in Firenze! Our surnames are GIGLIA and SMIROLDO. Thank you for the help :)
There were some key mistakes. She said *u bagnu and not un bagnu. Also, “benvenuta” is absolutely not Sicilian. In Sicilian it’s either Bummegna or Bumminuta. Also, Sicilian is T’amu, not Ti amo. It’s important to understand that, due to Italian influence, there is a wide spectrum that goes from Sicilian Language on one end to Italian Language on the other. In the middle is a regional Sicilian dialect of Italian, which, unfortunately, is what most people speak nowadays. It’s not fully Sicilian, and it’s not fully Italian, but it’s a mixture. Beware of the difference!
I went to wikepedia, not as the source, but to find sources on the Sicilian language. It is part of the Central Italian-Southern Italian languages and of course it is a Romance language, maybe the oldest. The article references the book by Italian linguist Salvatore Giarrizzo (published in 2004 and available at Amazon) and examining 5,000 Sicilian words, only 83 are from Arabic (1.06%) and these mostly deal with Food and cuisine for the most part. Latin by far dominates, with 55.84% from it. Greek is 2nd with 14.66%. Spanish and Catalan are 13.28% and 2.14%, respectively. French Dialects account for 6.36%. So the Norman influence is much more dominate and was adapted by Sicilians into their language than Arabic. Provencal is 1.66%, this being the dialect of Italian spoken in the NW of Italy and it too is related to French. In Total, excluding Greek, 14.66% and Arabic 1.06%, over 84% of the Sicilian language is based on languages either directly or indirectly based on Latin, the language of the Romans.
@@palermotrapani9067 Arabic was official language in Sicily untill late 14th century. After 14th Century Arabic become extinct in Sicily and in Malta developed into Maltese langauage. Please try to search Siculo arabic. Arabic culture remained in Sicily to the present day.
@@robleyusuf2566 Arabic was not the official language of Sicily. It was the official when the Abbasids ruled it, that is imposed on it. It may have persisted in use as a language after the Normans liberated Sicily. It was the dialect of Arabic that the Abbasids spoke. Modern Sicilian has very little influence from Siculo Arabic in it as I already documented. The Sicilian School of Poets that the Normans put together to restore and keep in tact Sicilies cultural history before the Abbassids invaded it quickly restored the language or to its Latin and Greek Roots and you can say standardized the basis for what would become Sicilian. As I said, Siculo-Arabic today only accounts for about 1% of the modern Sicilian language, maybe 300 or so words.
@@palermotrapani9067 Under the Norman King Roger Siculo Arabic was official language in Sicily. Sicily was inhabited by Arabs, Normans, Greeks. Norman invasion was not liberating Sicily but It was replacement of occupiers by another occupiers. Before Normans Sicily was inhabited by Arab Muslims and Christians who followed Greek Orthodoxy. Sicily used to be Greek majority followed by Arab minority who later ruled the Island before the Norman invasion. Later Norman Kings forced the inhabitants to convert latin Christianity and the mosques and the Orthodox churches were shutdown and sametime Siculo Arabic ceased to exist although the Arab culture remained in the Island to this present day. I have been many European cities but nothing like the cities in Sicily. I advice you to visit Arab countries espicially the gulf countries. Sicilians are not muslims but culturally are Arabs. The restrictions imposed on women are same although the Sicilians do not have the dress code Arab Muslims have but it is not easy for Sicilian women to have sex before mariage otherwise she will be either killed or she will become an outcast. The mafia family system in Sicily is quite similar to Arab clan system. In Yemen each city and village is run by a clan and the central government can not do anything because if the clan reject you then you can not open any business. The rich Saudi Arabia and other gulf states have Kafala system run by clans. Read Arab clan system
Ohmygod only half knowing the language I genuinely thought my nonno saying cin cin to me before clinking glasses was just a weird thing only my family did - cool to see its not lmao
MrBegliocchi I know, my family are not from Sicily; hence my added comment that I thought the dialect was odd (simply because it’s foreign to me), that was completely unrelated to saying cin cin
I'm still learning Italian but the sentence "Would you like to dance with me?" Shouldn't it be Ti piacerebbe or vorresti? instead of Vuoi? just curious
czure94 you can say “Ti piacerebbe/Vorresti ballare con me” but it’s too formal. Usually this expression is asked informally so you should definitely say “vuoi ballare con me?”
@@TommyTLC Yep, This is how Italian is taught in the US. Out dated formal phrases or English grammatical structure. However, Academics in Italy will still use these formal forms when addressing a topic, not in casual speech so they're good to know.
A lot of people on here seem to be, angry at Americans but we did not make this video. And we do understand the importance of knowing the difference between location, language, and ethnicity.
you have to understand that Italy and Sicily are the same thing, Sicily is an Italian region. Sicilian is a dialect, our first language is Italian of course. IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT?
American of Sicilian-Italian ancestry here. All this pseudo Science about Sicilians, Southern Italians, Central Italians, Northern Italians, etc, etc. Politically, many older Sicilians felt they got screwed over when they first joined Girabaldi's arm to liberate Italy from France. He was from Genoa, or actually in Nice, which was then Italy. The Piedmont region Italians wanted to control Italy so they cut a deal with Germany to attack France and then to end the conflict. The Piedmont faction ceded Nice to France under the condition they leave Italy. I don't remember what deal the Piedmont Italians cut with the Germans so by the time Garibaldi and Southern Italian forces got to Rome, the French were gone and Piedmont and the King congratulated him but they already took power. In the immediate Reunited Italy, the South was seen as a source of Labor the Piedmont leaders did not give the South any autonomy, that is where the Political issues started. Today, they are not as bad Sicily is 5% [8th of the 21 regions) of the total GDP, but it is also home to 5 million people, many of them farmers, so per capita not as high. Now in terms of Ethnicity This first paper looks at the DNA of Greeks today vs. Greeks from medeival times (Byzantine civilization). They find continuity. In addition, Figure 2 documents in the lower right, Peoples from the Levant in a Cluster (Syria, Jordan, Lebanese, etc), then a break, then Greeks Cluster, Sicilians cluster next to Greeks and 2 Italian mainland populations, Tuscans and Venetians cluster right next to Sicilians. Moving left, the Mainland Italian samples next closest Cluster are Spainards and French, not Germans, and certainly not Nordic Swedes, Danes and Norwegians. Antiquity www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718 Related to the post above, here is a peer reviewed academic study indicating modern Greeks are in continuity (DNA wise) with ancient Greeks. www.nature.com/articles/nature23310 Finally for all individuals of Italian descent, wherever you come from, here is the most comprehensive study I have read on Genetics of Italian populations. Figures 1 and 2 provide key findings. They are 1) Sicily and Southern Italy form a Cluster, 2)Central Italy forms a cluster, but actually is the most diverse Cluster because one Central Italian Province, Aquila clusters with Southern Italy and Sicily, 3)Northern Italy form a Cluster. Sardinia clusters by itself next to Southern and Central Italy. For those of you who read Genetic Studies, Sardinians are almost exclusively from the Early European Farmers who spread into Southern Europe, then rest of Europe maybe 10,000 years ago from the Levant. Outside of Italy, again Greeks cluster next to Sicily-Southern Italians and Central Italians. Consistent with the paper above, Northern Italians closest cluster outside of Italy are Spaniards and French. As you move left from Southern Italians-Sicily, you see a break then you See Cypriots, then another break before you see a cluster of peoples from the Levant. Starting with Northern Italian cluster, as you move Right you see where other European Populations cluster. www.nature.com/articles/nature23310 So Sicilians, like all other Italians are genetically Southern European. Northern Italians may be a little closer to Western Europeans, while Southern Italians and even Central cluster close with Greeks. With all that said, I am an American of Sicilian-Italian ancestry. DNA wise, 89% Italian, 7% Caucus region (unassigned) and trace regions of 2% Scottish_Irish (likely due to Normans bringing forces down from Northern France and British Isles to liberate Sicily from the Saracens, and 2% Middle East (unassigned), probably from the Levant.
Alfredo Vinci, you Sicilians should stop writing everywhere such thing, as it's not true that Sicilan formed the basis for modern Italian, Italian language just comes from the Florentine dialect, and after 150 years it has been influenced by all local Italian languages, for example the word ''ciao'' comes from the Venetian language as well as many other Italian words of Venetian origin.
@DRR M Yes, that's a fact! Sicilian poetry school is the first known not latin language factory in the whole Italian peninsula. (I don't say Italy because this wouldn't be accurate).
Please read a history book, my family is from Sicily and we are all half Italian and half Iranian (persian) due to invasions. There are many ethnic influences due to the amount of invasions that Sicily has undergone.
Italian is not an ethnicity, someone from Tyrol (German Land) or Northern Italy (Cisalpine Gaul) has very little, if nothing, to do with a Sicilian-Calabrian-Neapolitan. Genetically, Linguistically, and historically there's no such thing as Italian people.
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david alford , What confuses people is "an Italian dialect" versus "a dialect of Italian". Sicilian is not a dialect of Italian. But both Sicilian and Florentine (which is the basis of the standard Italian) are Italian dialects, that is, dialects spoken in Italy. Most Italian dialects, as well as all other Romance languages are actually dialects derived from Vulgar Latin, which during Roman times replaced older local languages and became the daily spoken language in most regions of the empire.
david alford. Sicilian is a dialect of italian. All local idioms in italy except the languages of linguistic minorities are dialects of italian. Otherwise if you say they are languages because they are not mutually intelligible with standard italian you should say the same thibgs for german dialects,french dialects, danish dialects,dutch dialects and chinese ones.
@@libertaslibertas5923 you're very wrong, all the local languages from northern and southern Italy aren't dialects of Italian, actually they're older than Italian. This is history, and you need to study the history of Italian local languages instead of saying such wrong comments.
@@pinky6789 yes, they are older than standard italian. But it is the same for every language: every dialect is older than a standard language. Bavarian is older than standard german and is considered a dialect of german. Andalusian is older than standard spanish.
Dead Ass Uncle That's fucking because your grandpa was born when the Italian language wasn't spoken in the whole country because of the language barriers from one region to another. Italian, derived from the Toscano, started to be spoken by everyone thanks to the TV, in the early 50s. Sicilians struggled a lot, mainly because of their appearence, the stereotype of them being mafiosi and their dialect(s), and weren't accepted aside from Sicily. Heck, people would even label them as "brown people". So Sicilians started to think themselves as "Sicilians, not Italians". Remember also that the union of Italy was hella recent (1871) so you'd think that people, separated by language and traditions, would suddenly start to label themselves as Italians? But now it's the 21st century, and please Americans, please stop calling South Italians "not italian", because now we Central Italians(yes, we do exist) and North Italians have accepted them as Italians. Y'all Americans fucking better stop with labeling everyone slightly different from the white people stereotype.
Now all sicilians speak italian as a native language, although most speak both natively. Extremely few sicilians only speak sicilian. Sicilian is only spoken informally with family. Italian is the language taught in sicilian schools and the language sicilians speak in formal situations.
This is not a Sicilian Language, but palermitan dialect or similar. A Catania si parla con un accento diverso e termini differenti. 1) "di dove sei?", si dice : Ri unni cali? 2) "dov'è il bagno?", si dice : unn'è u cessu? 3) "una sola lingua non basta mai", si dice : na parrata è picca 4) "cin cin" , si dice : a saluti ri sta schizza
Now imagine learning Italian for three years in high school so you can finally hold a conversation in Italian with nonna but you forgot she's Sicilian and nothing makes SENSE
Sicilians understand also normal Italian
@@erdbeerchan idk about that lmao
I'm Italian and from experience I get to say this.
Me but with my grandad lol
Based on the video, Sicilian is not really that far off from Toscana Italian that everyone speaks now. Just a few things, but I think Sicilians can understand that type of Italian since it is used in all media now.
Useless phrases. How would you say “I’m gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse” ?
Put a horse's head inside his blanket
Lol but really they should of done more
Italian: "Gli faremo un'offerta che non potrà rifiutare"
Sicilian: "Ci facemu na proposta ca non ppo arrefutari".
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Exactly, good one.
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My grandparents are from Bari, they speak Barese, a dialect I believe.
I love Sicilia and my friend Marco speaks Italian, Arabic, Sicilian and English.
When he went over words with me, some Sicilian words were closer to Arabic than Italian.
That's all I got 😂
I love Italy and Sicilia 💛
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English: "Where ist the bathroom"
Sicilian: "Unn'è un bagnu"
In Tunisia we say: "weeno el bano" or "weeni beat el bano"
A big love to our brothers and sisters from the other side of the sea
toonsi10 French sound in Sicilian language
not french ;)
The word Unné comes from the Arabic word "ayna" , ween In dialects and it means where
After the distruction of Cathago, from the I century a.E.V. to the I century E.V. Romans transferred 300.000 Samnites and Hirpines from Campania (Italian area) to the re-born Carthago (Iunonia Carthago) and to the contiguous territory, now kown as Tunisia. Gaius Sempronius Gracchus, Gaius Iulius Caesar and is adoptive son Gaius Iulius Caesar Octavianus make this. Sicily was arab and berber territory from VIII to X century E.V.
a.E.V. = ante Era Vulgaris
@Frosty I'm Italian. If you read what I wrote above, you can understand. All Mediterranean people (populus, Latin language) are descending from Roman citizens (romanae genus). The German aren't so.
If your mother language is the English language, think at a fact: All intellectual and spiritual verbal terms owned by English language are derived from Latin or Greek ancient languages. German (or Slavic) languages aren't European, but Barbarian languages.
People of Lybia, Tunisia, Maroc, Egypt aren't Arab, only they read the religious texts in Arabic language.
Lot of butthurt italians in the section comments. Italy as a country was created only in 1860. But the whole of the south (from Abruzzo to Sicily) was already united in 1130 (first as political union between the Kingdom of Naples and the Kingdom of Sicily and then as a single entity known as Kingdom of the Two Sicilies). All the local languages you find in these parts of Italy ARE NOT Italian dialects, but are variations of either the NEAPOLITAN or the SICILIAN language. Abruzzese, Molisano, Pugliese, Lucano and Neapolitan itself belong to the first group. Calabrese, Salentino and Sicilian itself belong to the second group. Now, Neapolitan and Sicilian are LANGUAGES, not dialects of Italian. The same way Catalan is a LANGUAGE and not a dialect of Spanish. Some Neapolitan words are more similiar to Spanish and Catalan than they are to standard Italian (a female child in Italian is "bambina", in Neapolitan is "nenna", in Catalan is "nena", in Spanish is niña). The same goes for Sicilian which unlike Neapolitan also had some Arab influence before 1130. So the video is entirely correct. Saying "language differences between Italian and Sicilian" is not an attempt against the "italianess of Sicilians". Today Sicilians are Italians, everybody knows that. It's just comparing two different languages, as you would Spanish and Catalan, without implying that Catalans aren't Spanish. Sure some Sicilians don't feel Italians and some Catalan don't feel Spanish, but that's a political issue, leave it out of this.
Thanks for the good info!
Gaetano Piccolo, UNESCO says that ALL local languages from northern and southern Italy aren't dialect of Italian and are minority romance languages. Not only the southern ones. I could write a long list to show you how the northern local languages are more related to French rather than Italian, and there are also German words in them. Just saying...
Gaetano: Correct, not to push my own post, but I posted similar above, as well as Recent DNA academic studies that show Sicily and Southern Italy cluster together, Central Italians cluster together, although closer to Southern Italians, and Northern Italians cluster. all 3 of these cluster right next to each other. Outside of Southern and Central Italy, the closest Cluster are Greeks. Nothern Italians closest cluster are Spaniards and French, not Germans!, and certainly not Nordic Swedes, Danes and Norwegians. I have provided links to the articles. Very well done studies and interesting data.
@@pensatoreseneca Nothing wrong with being a farmer, my great grandparents immigrated from Sicily and were farmers, mill hands, etc. There Great Grandson is now a Tenured Full Professor at a major R1 University in the USA. Oh well. More to the "Who" Sicilians are, I posted a public post that has several academic peer reviewed Genetic Studies of Italian Populations, and how they cluster, and Greeks and who they cluster with. The Evidence is consistent. Sicily and Southern Italians form 1 CLuster. Central Italians form a CLuster, although 1 Region, Aquila clusters with Southern Italians, making Central Italians on average closer to Southern Italians. Northern Italians form another Cluster. Outside of Italy, the Southern Italians-Siclians and Central Italians closest cluster are Greeks. Northern Italians closest cluster are Spaniards and French (Not Germans, and certainly not Nordic Swedes, Danes and Norwegians).
That was a bad example
Catalan is not Spanish people they are Catalan their own people otherwise you wouldn’t have a Catalan autonomous region they are not like the same as in Sicily or Napoli which you do consider as Italian people
But in Spain you have Spanish, basque and Catalan 3 different people I don’t know much about basque so I won’t talk much about them but Catalan is only in family with the Latin people like Spanish, French Italian and Portuguese etc
Portugal was also a part of Spain before but they are not Spanish but Portuguese so they also got their own country from Spain
Man, I’m so amazed how for me, a Brazilian Portuguese speaker, is much easier to understand and even speak the Sicilian language. Didn’t know it was like that.
The sicilian heard in this video is spoken in the west of the island Palermo Trapani. All those "sicilian" sentences would be different in the east of the island like in Catania or Syracuse. There are thousands of variations and the differences are at times noticeable even in between cities or villages that are not far away from each other.
Sure! If I spoke my variety of Sicilian (South-eastern Sicilian), many people from Palermo would be unable to entirely understand what I am saying. They would just get the gist
Puerto Ricans speak Spanish. Hawaiians have Hawaiian language, as well as Pidgin. The Cherokee people speak Tsalagi. They're all part of the United States, but there is still a differentiation between them.
Okinawa is a part of Japan, but many of the people there prefer to call themselves Okinawan. Sicily is a part of Italy, but people from Sicily still call themselves Sicilian, and while Italian and Sicilian are of the same linguistic group, they're different enough that someone from, say, Milan will have no idea what a person from Palermo is talking about, when they speak in their Sicilian dialect. Let's not be pretentious.
Exactly I always say Sicily is like the Puerto Rico of Italy there’s many different subcultures and ethnicities that influence the people and the Language they are part of Italy just like Puerto Rico is a territory of the US but they still call themselves Puerto Rican not American like we say Sicilian not Italian. And the language is different. Someone from Piemonte isn’t going to speak like someone from Palermo just like someone from San Juan doesn’t speak like someone from Madrid. Somehow people can’t resolve the distinctions in their minds idk it’s simple to me.
Hell my own grandparents never understood each other which was why I was like what do I take Italian or do I take Spanish and try Sicilian at home idk?
First of all America is a continent not a country anyone born in America is American not need to be born in THE UNITED STATES ! second Puerto Ricans never call themselves “ Americans “ we all know PR is part of of the US just business purposes, is not the same situation as Italy and Sicilia. Good example though. :) oh and nope America is not divided in South and North America just one big continent with a south side and a north side and the Caribbean Region which is in the north of the Americas.
@@DonaldActivo American is usually meant to describe someone from the U.S. in the English language. Rarely is it used to describe what continent someone is from. Usually the context gives this away.
Michael Valeriano yeah sure whatever you say
When I was a kid my Sicilian grandma would say "figu bedu" to us. I didn't know what it meant, only that it was an endearment. About 30 years later when I took Italian lessons I realized she'd been saying "figlio bello" or "figlia bella" - beautiful son/daughter.
I think u mean fígghiu béddu?
......o fígghia bèdda.....
Sicilian, like Romanian uses "cu" instead of "con",
"unn'e" (Rom: "unde" ) instead of "dov'e",
"M'a scusari" (Rom: "Ma scuzati") instead of "Mi scusate"
Ma* . Cratima "-" nu este folosita corect gramatical de tine aici. Educa-te ! = Educatie +tine (Asa se foloseste cratima).
@@mickael1277 "m-a" luat graba, "ma" face sa scriu gresit.
@@mickael1277 apropo, erau mai multe greseli acolo pe care le-am corectat. "unne" era probabil "unni e" deci de-aia se scria "unn'e". Si in romana e "scuzati" nu "scusati".
"Educa-te" nu e "educatie" + "tine", ci verbul "a educa" + (pe tine) "te".
unde comes from Latin, it means from where or whence
In Sicilian, you can also say "voi ballari cu mia", similar to "vuoi ballare con me".
Pero'Suona molto Calabrese!Vvoi ballari cu!mmia!
Anche in Calabria lo diciamo così
Something that must be said is that Sicily is a big island with many cities and the dialect changes from a city to another , for example some words in Palermo have a meaning totally different than in Catania . Or are pronounced and spelled totally differently .
Sicilian (sicilianu; Italian: siciliano), also known as Siculo (sìculu) or Calabro-Sicilian,[4] is a Romance language spoken on the island of Sicily and its satellite islands.[4] It is also spoken in southern Calabria (where it is called Southern Calabro),[4][5] specifically in the Province of Reggio Calabria,[6] whose dialect is viewed as being part of the continuum of the Sicilian language.[7] Central Calabria, the southern parts of Apulia (Salentino dialect) and Campania (Cilentano dialect), on the Italian peninsula, are viewed as being part of the broader Far Southern Italian language group (in Italian italiano meridionale estremo).[8]
Ethnologue (see below for more detail) describes Sicilian as being "distinct enough from Standard Italian to be considered a separate language"[4] and is recognized as a "minority language" by UNESCO.[9][10][11][12] It has been referred to as a language by the Sicilian region.[2] It has the oldest literary tradition of the modern Italian languages. The end!
My friend,
by chance, are you aware of migration links between Sicily (Messina) and Firenze?? My great-great grandparents were Sicilian, however it is believed their son, my great grandfather, was born in Firenze! Our surnames are GIGLIA and SMIROLDO.
Thank you for the help :) Kind of a family mystery.
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Where the demonstration failed was what part of Sicily was she from?
I would say that 6 of the 9 Sicilian provinces might not agree with her exact phrasing.
Scots is like that. I am lowland Scots but struggle with Doric up in the north east but am fascinated by the variation in the form of languages nonetheless. I lived in Sicily for 12 years BTW!!
this is too funny..... I am 2nd generation Sicilian American but learned proper Italian in college and my grandparents speak a Sicilian dialect to each other.... and therefore cannot understand me... to further confuse everyone here
My Great-Grandmother was from Palermo, Sicily. She was the last generation to know the Italian language. (My Grandfather and his siblings knew a little, but never became fluent.) I so badly want to start picking up the language (Sicilian) and not only carry on the traditions which I've heard from my Grandaunts, but also be able to read the love letters which my Great-Gma wrote to my Great-Gpa (they're in Italian)
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Sicilian dialect comes (together with old Greek language) straight from hellenic, ancient time. Sicilians should be Proud of this amazing heritage, they should learn and care to keep the dialect alive! To me Sicily is the most beautiful place on Earth and I share my best feelings about the place with all my friends (I am from Poland).
Language, not dialect.
Italian standard exists because it's the language of italian state, but Sicilian hasn't a standard version so there's tens of different ways to tell the same concept, with several inflection, noun and phrasal structure.
Italian comes from Sicilian (Check your history)
@@Lunacki1 no. Tuscan Dolce Stil Novo, who informed Tuscan literature and then Italian literature, is derived from mediaeval Sicilian poetry but vulgar Sicilian evolved indipendently for 7 centuries, so current form of Sicilian and Italian language are very different.
@@calogerohuygens4430 i Never told that that the actual Sicilian is the same of old Sicilian but I am telling you that old toscan (and thus Italian) comes from Sicily
@@Lunacki1 ancora....none...
@@calogerohuygens4430”E pur si muove!”
Very cool! My mom’s side is from Sicily. I was always told that Sicilian is a bit different than Italian. Unfortunately I never learned.
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Wow Romanian is even more similar to Sicilian. I guess they are closer to vulgar latin
Yes it is...we say ni videmu as romania speak we see us
It is said that Romanian is more similar to the languages of the south of Italy than of the north of the italy
English: I can't find anything in this mess!
Italian: Non posso/riesco a trovare niente in questo bordello!
Sicilian: Unn pozzu/ci rinesciu a truvari nenti na stu bordellu!
I’m Sicilian but I just wanted to say Italian and Sicilian dialect/language (whatever you wanna call it) is different. Italian is more Latin and Sicilian is from many different languages and Latin but very similar but different to italian. Sicilian nationality wise are italian ,but my family tells people that they are Sicilian not “I’m italian” ,but yes both are italian ,but culture is a little different. genetically though Sicilians are somewhat different from Italians. :)
um brooke, there isn't such thing as ''Italian culture and Sicilian culture''. There are 20 different Italian cultures (each one for every region of Italy), and Sicilians resemble other southern Italians. Moreover there are many other Italians who don't feel Italian, for example some people from Veneto, Valle d'Aosta, Trentino Alto Adige, Sardinia, and there's nothing like ''genetically Italian'' as Italians from Trieste, for example, have historical ties with Istria and Slovenia and different culture from, say, Sardinians, Marchigiani, Pugliesi...there are some Sicilians who get very offended if you don't consider them to be Italian.
Pinky678 perfectly said
Not true. I was born in Sicily. There 20 different regions and they are all different.
@P'lartevi პლართევი Sicilian actually influenced Tuscan Italian as the Sicilian School of Poets, formed by Roger, made sure all the ancient writings of Sicily were preserved and it turned into really the first Italian Literature. Dante and Petrarch borrowed heavily from the Sicilian School. In terms of words, Sicilian is a Romance language, only 1% of the words are from Arabic, and that mostly relates to Foods the Saracens introduced. Sicilian words are 56% from Latin, 15% from Greek and 13 from Spanish (Latin language), 6% French (Latin Language) [Spain and the Bourbons(French) have control over Sicily after the Normans), Provencal, which I think is a Northern Italian Dialect about 1.6% and Catalan, another Spanish language about 1.6% per a 1989 work by Salvatore Giarrizzo entitled Dizionario etimoogico Siciliano. So definitely good chunk of Greek, a little Arab, but not really much.
Sicilian people have much Arabic north African blood. Be proud
This is really nice, videos like this help the general public realize that, though closely related, Sicilian and other regional languages of Italy are indeed independent languages and not dialects of official Italian! Congrats for your educational vid, grazie/grazi and saluti dal Brasile.
Siciliano don’t resemble Spanish at all
@@potita24 I'm sorry but where in my comment did you read anything about Sicilian language being similar to Spanish (i.e. Castilian, since in Spain itself there are several regional languages as well)? Either you replied to the wrong comment or you didn't understand mine.
In almost all Sicily the D consonant becomes R-sound when before and after there is a vowel (or nothing). Di unni si = Ri unni si.
After an N, the G consonant is not pronounced (as in english ring, sing, king),
Bagnu, Benvenuta e Ti amo are modern expressions , all italianisms.
A Sicilian says "ti vogghiu" as in Spanish "te quiero".
U picciottu ca si sbarìa taliannu i stiddi arrassu a
Rita Palmeri Che significa:Vogliarda?
@@petera618 What drives me crazy is when people pick up bad Italian from gangster movies and TV and think it's Sicilian. e.g. "malto" for "molto."
What?? The D sounds ??? I didnt understand anything you said! Sorry I'm Sicilian😄
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italy is so diverse (optimistic thinking), and divided (pessimistic thinking), in their economics, culture, language, income, etc.
When will you have Sicilian on the app?
The offical standard version of Italian is from Florence. From Great Britain its RP English. From Spain its Castilian. From China its Mandarin, etc. Lots of variations, idioms , slang, accents and dialects live around the standard versions. Even in little Denmark there are definite variations of language depending upon which part of the country you live in. The USA is no exception and Americans do have a something called "Standard English"except everyone in the USA thinks that they do speak Standard English. In this video, if they had spoken with a woman from Sardinia or Italian Tyrol she would probably sound more or less different from both of the women in the video. "Italian" and "Sicilian" are not 2 different languages, in the same sense that Russian is a different language from Spanish., for example.
Only partly true. Neapolitan and Sicilian (from which all Southern Italian dialects from Abruzzo to Sicily come from) are in fact languages. Sometimes these languages are more similar to Spanish, Catalan, French and Greek than they are to standard Italian (which as you rightly say is based on the Tuscan language). For example to say "female child" in Neapolitan you say "nenna", which is very similar to the Catalan "nena". But in Italian you say "bambina". To say "down" in Neapolitan you say "abbasc" which is close to the Spanish "abajo". But in Italian you say "sotto". To say "vase" in Neapolitan you say "cantaro" which is very close to the Greek "kantharos". But in Italian is "vaso". Don't mix political borders with language. Italy as a country has existed only since 1860, just 78 years before the start of World War II. But the Kingdom of Naples and the Kingdom of Sicily have existed since 1130 (sometimes under foreign influence such as Spanish or French, sometimes as indipendent kingdoms in a political union with each other). These nations were basically invaded by the Northern Italian state of Piedmont (sponsored by the Brits) in 1860, they were economicall impoverished (Southern Italian emigration to the Americas began only after this period) and they were made to forget that they were nations. Thus they were told that Neapolitan ans Sicilian are Italian dialects. But that was a political move.
I think it probably is " 'u bagnu" and not "un bagnu", since _'u_ should be the shortening of lu (wich in italian is il, infact)
Is it bad that i was expecting them to say Salut!
My dad came to the USA from Sicily in his 20's. To his family & friend's surprise, he married an American woman of non-Sicilian/Italian descent. This has nothing to do with the language, but I found it interesting when I had once referred to us as Italian, and my dad seemed miffed & let me know we were Sicilian, NOT Italian ! lol
My wife is from Calabria. I'm from rural Kentucky....its a party trick of ours to confuse people with our accents dialects
when i heard "cin cin" the only thing i could think of is "Ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo"
Which one of those is the consigliari ?
Mango, when will you offer Sicilian language?
George Widmer They probably don’t offer it because sicilian is not an official language anywhere in the world not even in sicily
Comunque anche "l'italiana" come la "siciliana" proviene da una qualche regione di Italia, anche lei avrà un dialetto, se etichetti una come "siciliana" dovresti quantomeno specificare la provenienza dell'altra..
In Italy what is typically referred to as "dialect" is in fact generally speaking regional or minority languages. Italy has an unusual political history when it comes to its linguistic diversity and treats its romance languages differently than the rest of Europe and mainstream linguistics.
Puoi qualcuno quando parla Italiano con una persona chi parla Sicillana? O ci sono troppo differenze? E non solo un dialetto non mai una lingua diverso? Per favore, qualcuno aiutami e dimmi una riposta chiara.
Parlano facilmente tra di loro. Ora lo capisco. Grazie per la tua precisazione!@Gaia Nicolosi
Il vero italiano è il toscano, gli altri sono solo derivati
@@agrifanzhaha8644 non proprio
‘Na lingua n’abbasta mai’ would be pretty similar in Italian;
‘Una lingua non basta mai’.
It depends how you phrase it
Half Sicilian and I love the dialect
I love minority languages !!!! Long live
Are you chechen
anyway the sicilian accent of this girl was very "italian from an english"
And yes Sicily is part of Italy but with a different story behind, different blood, different language as well, but in sicily we also speak italian....
American of Sicilian Italian ancestry. Actually, Sicily and Southern Italy cluster together DNA wise, Central Italy forms a cluster, and Northern Italy forms a cluster. All 3 cluster right next to each other (see my post above that provided academic peer reviewed DNA studies). Outside of Italy, Sicily-Southern Italy and Central Italians cluster closest to Greeks. Northern Italians closest cluster are Spaniards and French.
@@palermotrapani9067 yes but one thing in common all these languages including french and spanish come from latin which comes from central italy
Italy is an artificial creation of a nation.
At one point not too long ago, Italy was made up of many different nations with different cultures and dialects that some would argue are different languages from one another.
So for those who are so ignorant as to insist that all Italians are “Italian”, and that Italian is one language, pick up a history book and come back later.
I say this as a half Sicilian whose family comes from Ragusa. I was brought up around Sicilians who are almost foreign compared to mainland Italians.
Actually, if you go back in history, that is not accurate. The Roman empire dates to the 8th century BC and was pretty much in Lazio and modern Umbria, by the late 4th century BC, Campania and other areas of Central Italy were part of it, by 275 BC Puglia, and by 265 BC before the first punic war, everything South of the Po Valley to the straights of Messina were part of Rome. By 250 BC, Sicily was part of Rome and by about 220 BC, Sardinia and by the end of the 3rd Century BC, all of modern Northern Italy. So all modern Italy was united as part of Rome till the 5th century BC, when the German tribes came crashing down from North of the Alps. The Byzantines kept it pretty much till about 650 AD, and it split into various kingdoms. For the next 500 years, much of Italy was City-states with the Church of Rome, the Papal states controlling Central Italy. However, starting with the Norman liberation of sicily in about 1061, everything South of Rome (along with Abruzzo) was unified under the Kingdom of Sicily/Kingdom of Naples/Kingdom of Two Sicilies. Culturally, the Catholic faith being the integral part of not only religion, but cultural, art, archtecture, etc has tied Southern Italy with Rome at least since the 3rd century BC. With the exception of the Saracen rule from 965 (when Messina finally fell) to 1061, when the Normans came in, and the about 50-70 year period when the Saracens had control over parts of Puglia around Bari, Sicily, Calabria, Campania, Puglia, Basilicata and Abbruzzo have been unified.
So I reject your thesis 100%
Very great, interesting video!!
Are very differents!! I am from Spain and I didn't know than silician was a lenguage, or more or less
Within Italy exist tens of languages! They're less relative than Arabian from different countries.
Italy is like Spain. The difference is that in Spain other languages are recognized while in Italy they are called dialects to be considered some kind of inferior things, even if they are actual different languages.
Only in central Italy there are dialects of Italian language. In the South and North there are different linguistic areas.
Italy has dozens of languages, inclunding a variant of Catalan spoken in Alghero.
But you can still speak Italian to sicilians as we r bilingual. Just like you can speak Spanish to Catalans. However in Catalonia Catalan is considered an official language, but in Sicily sicilian is not considered official, only Italian is.
It seems the words of Sicilian come from different dialects of Latin, not the same dialects of Latin that Standard Italian derive.
But isnt salute!Instead of cin cin mostly in the south?
Italians adopted the dialect of Tuscany. The Sicilans kept their original dialect. If I offend anyone; I'm sorry but I have to tell it like it is. There were many dialects in Italy but Northern Italy chose to adapt the Tuscan traditions and dialect.
I'm not offended but your comment isn't correct. It's not true that ''Northern Italy chose to adapt the Tuscan traditions and dialect.''. The Tuscan dialect is the Italian language. Italian is mandatory in every school of Italy, from north to south. Northern Italy never chose to adapt the Tuscan traditions...only the Tuscan people. Other northern Italians still keep alive their own traditions, cuisine, habits, music, and our original dialects. You can compare the region Veneto to the south for its very high percentage of dialect speakers, there are many people who still care and speak their dialect all over the north though. Trust me, I'm from northern Italy, I know what I'm talking about.
I salute you, Mediterranean brother.
Travelling through Italy through the languages and dialects map, you will discover that the further North of Rome you go, the more the Italian dialects reassemble French. But,the further South you go, they resemble Spanish. Infact entire phrases and words of some Southern dialects are identical to the Spanish ones. If you come from certain regions of Central an Northern Italy, it is virtually impossible to understand southern dialects, like Sicilian or Calabrian because these are even worse than dialects to understand. They are like a completely different language. The words for certain objects will be totally different and you could not guess their meaning. A dialect, like say American or Australian or Scottish English might have a weird accent and the odd strange words eg the American "fall" being "autumn" in Aussie English. But, in southern Italian dialects, like Sicilian, there will be many such words, place weird pronunciations and accents and, also it will affect the grammatical structures in the language. I am not Sicilian or Calabrian so I can't understand them but I tried to teach some Sicilian friends how to speaker Italian. We ended up having arguments over the correct words to denote certain objects eg eye glasses. My Sicilian friends argued they were correct and I was wrong because "that's what they say in Palermo". My parents told me to tell them that what I say is how they say it in Florence and the Florentine language or dialect was the one that eventually became the official Italian language. I tried that but it didn't work. They insisted that what they say in Palermo is the correct Italian word and they even quoted ancient Latin roots of their form of a particular noun eg the word for reading glasses. The Sicilian form relates to the Latin form denoting a lense, whereas the Italian form relates to a Latin form that describes something worn on the eyes and has the "eye" root mentioned in the noun. I had to finally give up arguing about it. I was so mad about it that I told my parents who just shrugged it off and said "What do you expect? They are nice people but they are not really Italians, so you can't expect them to speak Italian. They speak Sicilian in their land." But, even so, I found their unusual customs, music traditions, folklore etc interesting, even if it was virtually impossible to understand what they were talking about. Sometimes Sicilian women would visit us and start talking in Sicilian. I knew neither my mother nor I could understand them but mum would put on an act like she understood them because they seemed like nice people and they came with gifts for friendship. When I asked mum what these Sicilians had said, she'd hold her hands out and just say, in her flat,deadpan style "Beh... I dunno... Ma we must be polite, even if we can't un derstand them..." That made no sense to me. Either we learn their language or they should learn to speak Italian. Speaking in dialect was forbidden in my home because it makes one seem so rough and vulgar, a bit like English or Aussie street guttertalk. There was no way they would ever agree to let me learn Sicilian if I wasn't even allowed to speak own dialect.But, fortunately, my Sicilian friends and could both communicate in English. That solved the problem.It didn't feel natural discussing things Italian in English but it was easier this way than trying to speak our native tongues.
Untrue. The more North you go, the more they resemble BOTH French and Spanish.
The more you go South, the least they do.
The only (few) similarities between Southern Italian and Sicilian dialects and Spanish is because of Spanish/Aragonese colonization.
In the end you have to remember that both French, Catalan, Spanish and Portuguese are all part of the same family (Western Romance languages or Gallo-Romance) that’s not the same as the Italo-Dalmatian family.
Sardinian language, on the other hand, is actually very similar to Spanish to the point of sounding almost like a mix of the two languages + ancient Roman Latin.
I would like to say something: we Italians all speak Italian but EVERY REGION OF ITALY HAS HIS DIALECT! For example I am Italian and Sicilian (because I live in Sicily, one of the Italian regions) In the video they also had to write the region of origin of the lady on the left. And also for those who write 'this is not Sicilian' I would like to specify that the Sicilian changes depending on whether you live in eastern or western Sicily
I'm Sicilian. There are differences in the language, but they are not major. Each can understand the other. After WWII, the new Italian government gradually eliminated the numerous dialects. While some do still exist, basically one language spoken throughout the country. The last time I was in Sicily was 1977. The Fiorentino was spoken by nearly everyone. Those born and raised before WWII knew Sicilian, but most people spoke the modern Italian. Venetian, Sicilian, Florentine, Molisano - they are all Italian.
spideraxis the last time i was in sicily i noticed they all indeed speak italian to some degree but their language/dialects was still sicilian.
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@@theodorospadelidis6537 My UA-cam account?
@@spideraxis discord account
@@theodorospadelidis6537 Don't have.
I never knew they were totally different languages till now
Metz But sicilians also speak Italian. Italian is the only language sicilians learn in school.
They are not. And sicilians is very inteligible.
@@bacascionebacascioni897 well if the words dont sound the same how can it be sound language
@@mets23q the words are quite similar. If i read a tale in sicilian i ubderstand 80%. Without knowing it.
Of course some of the words in the video are selected on purpose to make sicilian seem totally ununderstandble.
Crqzy watching this because i thought i learnt italian from my friend from palermo but its totally dofferent!
Pronunce siciliane molto "artificiali" direi
hai ragione forse dovevano prendere uno della guadagna
è normale è una italoamericana sicuramente
Very similar in many ways.
I want to learn italian. Should i focus on north or south?
If you're going to study italian you're going to study what is known as "standard italian" which is the language taught in schools in italy. There's no such difference as north and south italian but rather various dialects (although it would be more correct calling them regional languages) spoken all over the peninsula and sicilian is one of those.
Funny how even though I've never spoken a lick of Italian or Sicilan in my life my knowledge as a Spanish speaking Puerto Rican/Mexican helped me understand some of what they were saying without the translatuon like "Ti amo" is Te Amo in Spanish for example
Well yeah cuz they're all Latin languages.
I know this is an old video but my grandmother is Sicilian but born in the USA. Her parents immigrated from Sicily when she was one. English is her second language and the Sicilian that she grew up speaking is different than the Sicilian that they speak now does anybody know where I can go about learning the old Sicilian language that she speaks?
My great grandmother Maria Portela is from Sicily and grew up in Cuba. I wish to learn Sicilian language. She has Spanish blood in her from her ancestors but i already know Spanish. Every aspect of my family and my mom are literally that one common among Italians and Sicilians which is that hand thing they do.
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did you live in cuba??? and how did you survive? o.O
@@marvinsilverman4394 by getting out of Cuba 🇨🇺
@@theodorospadelidis6537 I don't have a account, I don't care much for most apps
I have the mango app but I don’t see Sicilian as a language option 🙁
My great grandmother uses to say "beddu mage" (spelling?) Which means pretty face but in Italian it's "Bella viso". Our family originates from Alcomo.
When I was in college I took Italian to honor my mother’s Sicilian heritage... guess that’s another two years of my life I wasted lmao.
You actually did the right thing my friend! Finally! I met a lot of Americans who come to Sicily and start to speak sicilian, the problem?... Well, sometimes they spoke "ancient sicilian", the one their great-grandparents spoke, every language and dialect evolves, and sometimes it was so hard to understand them, I had to switch to my broken English to communicate with them. Learning Italian is the right choice, we all speak Italian in sicily (at least the younger generations), If you speak Italian we will be able to communicate with you and help you if you need something. You did the right thing learning Italian 👍✅
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So. I am a Polish person who lives in Sicily, and start learning Italian. My A2 dropped to 0 when I Encounter first Italian Grandma who asks me about something and I didn't have clue what she is saying to me xD
What about Neapolitan
we're all italians and thats it .even if you are italian from brazil or argentina or france or canada or america or switzerland or uruguay germany we are all italians ,have some pride
where's the bathroom; un ne' u gabinetto! that's real sicilian.
Many ways of saying it.
unn'è u bagnu
Locride aunde' u bagnu!
Hey... you're Kirk Angel!!! Or at least you were. Thanks for all the great Ron and Fez uploads!
@@AirBuddDwyer my pleasure 👍
And here I was learning Italian for the trip😂
@Aj00098 Hey, learning the basis of Italian will help you go far! We're glad this video helped highlight just some of the differences between regions, dialects, and languages :)
This Unni (where) in sicilian is from Arabic word Uenn for where
Kazzamatazz no. Its from Latin unde.
@@MrBegliocchi No it's from arabic, it's pretty much how Tunisians say it.
Taha Hasan Thats unlikely since no other basic word in sicilian is derived from arabic. The only sicilian words derived from Arabic are specialized vocabulary from specific categories like agriculture and some cuisine words. All basic words are from Latin. Just like munnu (world) is from Latin mundus. Note the ND to NN similar to unde-unni.
Saying "She's Italian" without mentioning her region was like saying that Sicilians are not Italians...
Imagine if you were watching a video about American accents and they wrote "She's from the US/American" next to one participant and "She's from Texas" next to other one, as if Texas was a different country or something. I'm not even from Sicily, but this kind of mistakes pisses me off to some extent 'cause they spread wrong information all around the globe, under the pretext of "educating" people
As an american from the us (Texas) with Italian ancestors..............I can say Texas is its own country.
@@stevelira52524 Ok, maybe I didn't pick the right state then XD
As a Spanish and French speaker I understand Italian a lot more than I understand Sicilian and/or other dialects.
Do we have a lot incommon. In spanish i work: yo trabajo in sicilian: ju/iu/jo or eu travagghiu and i italian: io lavoro. Sicilian language/dialect had a lot of taken words from the spanish language and from aragon now catalonia.
Irene becomes "Airin"??!
I love this video ! :)
That was cute. My Sicilian heritage approves lol
How would you say non capisco ? With scicilian dialect?
In my city on the east coast is: "Non ci ste capennu nenti"
I'll write it in capital letters because lu looks identical to Iu (iu) in this lower case font.
" NUN LU CAPISCIU " (Noon Lou Kah-PEE-shoe) depending on the area it could be condensed in conversation to:
NU' LU CAPISCIU , NU' 'U CAPISCIU or
'UN 'U CAPISCIU
I'm sure there are other examples in different Sicilian towns' dialects.
I‘m half sicilian (mother‘s side) and half tunisian (fathers side) i really want to learn the sicilian accent because it‘s very hard for me to understand my nonna when we visit her in palermo
i visited sisilia before i'm Moroccan i speak 4 language arabic french spanish english i heard that italy language easy some words and you will be nice tourist but in sicily people there makes me feels like i'm from mars the real problem is people there they don't speak any other language except Sicilian :)
STOP making babies كفي من الاطفال بدون فائدة every sicilian speaks also italian
We speak italian too 👌🏻
Is anyone aware of migration links between Sicily and Firenze?? My great-great grandparents were Sicilian, however it is believed their son, my great grandfather, was born in Firenze! Our surnames are GIGLIA and SMIROLDO.
Thank you for the help :)
There were some key mistakes. She said *u bagnu and not un bagnu. Also, “benvenuta” is absolutely not Sicilian. In Sicilian it’s either Bummegna or Bumminuta. Also, Sicilian is T’amu, not Ti amo. It’s important to understand that, due to Italian influence, there is a wide spectrum that goes from Sicilian Language on one end to Italian Language on the other. In the middle is a regional Sicilian dialect of Italian, which, unfortunately, is what most people speak nowadays. It’s not fully Sicilian, and it’s not fully Italian, but it’s a mixture. Beware of the difference!
If you combine Italian, Arabic, Nordic(Norman) and Greek = Sicilian.
I went to wikepedia, not as the source, but to find sources on the Sicilian language. It is part of the Central Italian-Southern Italian languages and of course it is a Romance language, maybe the oldest. The article references the book by Italian linguist Salvatore Giarrizzo (published in 2004 and available at Amazon) and examining 5,000 Sicilian words, only 83 are from Arabic (1.06%) and these mostly deal with Food and cuisine for the most part. Latin by far dominates, with 55.84% from it. Greek is 2nd with 14.66%. Spanish and Catalan are 13.28% and 2.14%, respectively. French Dialects account for 6.36%. So the Norman influence is much more dominate and was adapted by Sicilians into their language than Arabic. Provencal is 1.66%, this being the dialect of Italian spoken in the NW of Italy and it too is related to French.
In Total, excluding Greek, 14.66% and Arabic 1.06%, over 84% of the Sicilian language is based on languages either directly or indirectly based on Latin, the language of the Romans.
@@palermotrapani9067 Arabic was official language in Sicily untill late 14th century. After 14th Century Arabic become extinct in Sicily and in Malta developed into Maltese langauage. Please try to search Siculo arabic. Arabic culture remained in Sicily to the present day.
@@robleyusuf2566 Arabic was not the official language of Sicily. It was the official when the Abbasids ruled it, that is imposed on it. It may have persisted in use as a language after the Normans liberated Sicily. It was the dialect of Arabic that the Abbasids spoke. Modern Sicilian has very little influence from Siculo Arabic in it as I already documented. The Sicilian School of Poets that the Normans put together to restore and keep in tact Sicilies cultural history before the Abbassids invaded it quickly restored the language or to its Latin and Greek Roots and you can say standardized the basis for what would become Sicilian. As I said, Siculo-Arabic today only accounts for about 1% of the modern Sicilian language, maybe 300 or so words.
@@palermotrapani9067 Under the Norman King Roger Siculo Arabic was official language in Sicily. Sicily was inhabited by Arabs, Normans, Greeks. Norman invasion was not liberating Sicily but It was replacement of occupiers by another occupiers. Before Normans Sicily was inhabited by Arab Muslims and Christians who followed Greek Orthodoxy. Sicily used to be Greek majority followed by Arab minority who later ruled the Island before the Norman invasion. Later Norman Kings forced the inhabitants to convert latin Christianity and the mosques and the Orthodox churches were shutdown and sametime Siculo Arabic ceased to exist although the Arab culture remained in the Island to this present day. I have been many European cities but nothing like the cities in Sicily. I advice you to visit Arab countries espicially the gulf countries. Sicilians are not muslims but culturally are Arabs. The restrictions imposed on women are same although the Sicilians do not have the dress code Arab Muslims have but it is not easy for Sicilian women to have sex before mariage otherwise she will be either killed or she will become an outcast. The mafia family system in Sicily is quite similar to Arab clan system. In Yemen each city and village is run by a clan and the central government can not do anything because if the clan reject you then you can not open any business. The rich Saudi Arabia and other gulf states have Kafala system run by clans. Read Arab clan system
Ohmygod only half knowing the language I genuinely thought my nonno saying cin cin to me before clinking glasses was just a weird thing only my family did - cool to see its not lmao
Also I love and appreciate dialects but THE SICILIAN DIALECT IS WEIRD
Everyone in Italy says cin cin not just sicilians.
MrBegliocchi I know, my family are not from Sicily; hence my added comment that I thought the dialect was odd (simply because it’s foreign to me), that was completely unrelated to saying cin cin
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I like this
We Greeks say cin cin some times too but we mainly say ''to your health''
Grico δεν μου έχει τύχει να πούμε cin cin ποτέ
Thanasis Papageorgiou Stin oikogeneia mou leme merikes fores cin cin otan akompame ta potiria.
Grico από πού είσαι φίλε μου;
Thessaloniki esei?
Grico Πειραιά 😂
I'm still learning Italian but the sentence "Would you like to dance with me?"
Shouldn't it be Ti piacerebbe or vorresti? instead of Vuoi?
just curious
czure94 you can say “Ti piacerebbe/Vorresti ballare con me” but it’s too formal. Usually this expression is asked informally so you should definitely say “vuoi ballare con me?”
@@TommyTLC Ahh okay
That makes sense now. I have a problem of mixing up the conjugations of Potere and Volere
Thank you x)
@@TommyTLC Yep, This is how Italian is taught in the US. Out dated formal phrases or English grammatical structure. However, Academics in Italy will still use these formal forms when addressing a topic, not in casual speech so they're good to know.
A lot of people on here seem to be, angry at Americans but we did not make this video. And we do understand the importance of knowing the difference between location, language, and ethnicity.
you have to understand that Italy and Sicily are the same thing, Sicily is an Italian region. Sicilian is a dialect, our first language is Italian of course. IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT?
Chiars actually sicilian is a language
Who cares still nasty people
@@sammiedog4 I have been to Sicily many times and the people aren't nasty. They're actually really nice. And yes, Sicilian is a separate language.
They're talking about the language they speak, not their ethnicity!
it's not so simple.
where can i learn sicilian
Copenhagen
American of Sicilian-Italian ancestry here. All this pseudo Science about Sicilians, Southern Italians, Central Italians, Northern Italians, etc, etc. Politically, many older Sicilians felt they got screwed over when they first joined Girabaldi's arm to liberate Italy from France. He was from Genoa, or actually in Nice, which was then Italy. The Piedmont region Italians wanted to control Italy so they cut a deal with Germany to attack France and then to end the conflict. The Piedmont faction ceded Nice to France under the condition they leave Italy. I don't remember what deal the Piedmont Italians cut with the Germans so by the time Garibaldi and Southern Italian forces got to Rome, the French were gone and Piedmont and the King congratulated him but they already took power. In the immediate Reunited Italy, the South was seen as a source of Labor the Piedmont leaders did not give the South any autonomy, that is where the Political issues started. Today, they are not as bad Sicily is 5% [8th of the 21 regions) of the total GDP, but it is also home to 5 million people, many of them farmers, so per capita not as high.
Now in terms of Ethnicity This first paper looks at the DNA of Greeks today vs. Greeks from medeival times (Byzantine civilization). They find continuity. In addition, Figure 2 documents in the lower right, Peoples from the Levant in a Cluster (Syria, Jordan, Lebanese, etc), then a break, then Greeks Cluster, Sicilians cluster next to Greeks and 2 Italian mainland populations, Tuscans and Venetians cluster right next to Sicilians. Moving left, the Mainland Italian samples next closest Cluster are Spainards and French, not Germans, and certainly not Nordic Swedes, Danes and Norwegians. Antiquity www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718
Related to the post above, here is a peer reviewed academic study indicating modern Greeks are in continuity (DNA wise) with ancient Greeks.
www.nature.com/articles/nature23310
Finally for all individuals of Italian descent, wherever you come from, here is the most comprehensive study I have read on Genetics of Italian populations. Figures 1 and 2 provide key findings. They are 1) Sicily and Southern Italy form a Cluster, 2)Central Italy forms a cluster, but actually is the most diverse Cluster because one Central Italian Province, Aquila clusters with Southern Italy and Sicily, 3)Northern Italy form a Cluster. Sardinia clusters by itself next to Southern and Central Italy. For those of you who read Genetic Studies, Sardinians are almost exclusively from the Early European Farmers who spread into Southern Europe, then rest of Europe maybe 10,000 years ago from the Levant. Outside of Italy, again Greeks cluster next to Sicily-Southern Italians and Central Italians. Consistent with the paper above, Northern Italians closest cluster outside of Italy are Spaniards and French. As you move left from Southern Italians-Sicily, you see a break then you See Cypriots, then another break before you see a cluster of peoples from the Levant. Starting with Northern Italian cluster, as you move Right you see where other European Populations cluster.
www.nature.com/articles/nature23310
So Sicilians, like all other Italians are genetically Southern European. Northern Italians may be a little closer to Western Europeans, while Southern Italians and even Central cluster close with Greeks. With all that said, I am an American of Sicilian-Italian ancestry. DNA wise, 89% Italian, 7% Caucus region (unassigned) and trace regions of 2% Scottish_Irish (likely due to Normans bringing forces down from Northern France and British Isles to liberate Sicily from the Saracens, and 2% Middle East (unassigned), probably from the Levant.
I dialetti ci sono in tutta Italia!
Non solo in Sicilia.
Sicilian is not a dialect it’s a language older than Italian and formed the basis of modern Italian
Alfredo Vinci, you Sicilians should stop writing everywhere such thing, as it's not true that Sicilan formed the basis for modern Italian, Italian language just comes from the Florentine dialect, and after 150 years it has been influenced by all local Italian languages, for example the word ''ciao'' comes from the Venetian language as well as many other Italian words of Venetian origin.
@Dr. Paradise you're right 👍
@DRR M Yes, that's a fact! Sicilian poetry school is the first known not latin language factory in the whole Italian peninsula. (I don't say Italy because this wouldn't be accurate).
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they're both Italian by ethnicity.
"citizenship"
Azzury Street Italian is also an ethnicity. Same word, two meanings.
Please read a history book, my family is from Sicily and we are all half Italian and half Iranian (persian) due to invasions. There are many ethnic influences due to the amount of invasions that Sicily has undergone.
Italian is not an ethnicity, someone from Tyrol (German Land) or Northern Italy (Cisalpine Gaul) has very little, if nothing, to do with a Sicilian-Calabrian-Neapolitan. Genetically, Linguistically, and historically there's no such thing as Italian people.
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Sicilian sounds sooooo much better
Seeing this I thought about the Dennis Hopper And Christopher Walken scene from True Romance 😂😂
You're Sicilian?
How would you say "leave the gun, take the cannoli"?
Lasciala la pistola, prendi i cannoli.
When you start taking Italian to connect with your ancestry, only to find out they spoke Sicilian, and the two are not the same 🙃🫠
Sicilian is more closer to current ROmanian language.
sicialian is NOT an Italian dialect...it is a dialect of latin...standard Italian is based on the Tuscan dialect
david alford , What confuses people is "an Italian dialect" versus "a dialect of Italian". Sicilian is not a dialect of Italian. But both Sicilian and Florentine (which is the basis of the standard Italian) are Italian dialects, that is, dialects spoken in Italy. Most Italian dialects, as well as all other Romance languages are actually dialects derived from Vulgar Latin, which during Roman times replaced older local languages and became the daily spoken language in most regions of the empire.
ALL the Romance languages are dreivatives or spin-offs of Latin. Thats why they are called "Romance Languages".(aka ROMAN EMPIRE)
david alford. Sicilian is a dialect of italian. All local idioms in italy except the languages of linguistic minorities are dialects of italian. Otherwise if you say they are languages because they are not mutually intelligible with standard italian you should say the same thibgs for german dialects,french dialects, danish dialects,dutch dialects and chinese ones.
@@libertaslibertas5923 you're very wrong, all the local languages from northern and southern Italy aren't dialects of Italian, actually they're older than Italian. This is history, and you need to study the history of Italian local languages instead of saying such wrong comments.
@@pinky6789 yes, they are older than standard italian. But it is the same for every language: every dialect is older than a standard language. Bavarian is older than standard german and is considered a dialect of german. Andalusian is older than standard spanish.
Sicilians are different from Italians, my father grew up in Sicily and would be not classified as a ‘real italian’ because he spoke Sicilian
Dead Ass Uncle That's fucking because your grandpa was born when the Italian language wasn't spoken in the whole country because of the language barriers from one region to another. Italian, derived from the Toscano, started to be spoken by everyone thanks to the TV, in the early 50s. Sicilians struggled a lot, mainly because of their appearence, the stereotype of them being mafiosi and their dialect(s), and weren't accepted aside from Sicily. Heck, people would even label them as "brown people". So Sicilians started to think themselves as "Sicilians, not Italians". Remember also that the union of Italy was hella recent (1871) so you'd think that people, separated by language and traditions, would suddenly start to label themselves as Italians? But now it's the 21st century, and please Americans, please stop calling South Italians "not italian", because now we Central Italians(yes, we do exist) and North Italians have accepted them as Italians. Y'all Americans fucking better stop with labeling everyone slightly different from the white people stereotype.
Yea no that's 100% bullshit. I'm Italian, can confirm
@@quinjou actually! Toscano derived from Sicily learn the history! Ciao!
Now all sicilians speak italian as a native language, although most speak both natively. Extremely few sicilians only speak sicilian. Sicilian is only spoken informally with family. Italian is the language taught in sicilian schools and the language sicilians speak in formal situations.
sicilain is better
Omg both languages are so cute! 😊 (never delete this video)
This is not a Sicilian Language, but palermitan dialect or similar.
A Catania si parla con un accento diverso e termini differenti.
1) "di dove sei?", si dice : Ri unni cali?
2) "dov'è il bagno?", si dice : unn'è u cessu?
3) "una sola lingua non basta mai", si dice : na parrata è picca
4) "cin cin" , si dice : a saluti ri sta schizza
So......Scilian is closer to Latin?
“Your crazy” Can be flipped around and messed with lol
Sicily is in Italy and the island has its own dialect. Sicilian is just one of the others italian dialcts
I think you should understand that italians were born before Italy was born, and that be the correct answer to any criticism.