How Statically Strong is Eddie Hall Vs Hafthor Bjornsson?
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- How Statically Strong is Eddie Hall Vs Hafthor Bjornsson?
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5 lifts either overhead or presses where Eddie is Stronger. Don't you think it's biased?
I just compared as many different lifts as I was able too and as there are far more types/variations of pushing lifts there were more of them if that makes sense, with the exception of the deadlift strongmen don't do any static pulling movements and the same applies to the squat/legs. biased would imply that I had an adjective to favour someone and that certainly isn't the case.
Please do Brian Shaw vs Eddie hall
@@sakshamsharma1528 Eventually mate
@@StrengthUniverse please do Ronnie Coleman vs Eddie hall
The confidence on Eddie doing that heavy bench press without spotter. He really had great trust in himself.
He's a zodiac sign is Capricorn with moon sign in Scorpio that's why he has amazing self-confidence
@@towerofresonance4877 😨
@@Rishi_749 I hope it is sarcasm.
@@magnetarkhan no it's not sarcasm just plain truth
his self belief is god tier
On static strength Eddie Hall in his prime was most probably the strongest man to have ever lived.
Nope lmao
@@skillz7026 tag someone who is stronger than him.
Brian shaw is the strongest man to ever walk th plane
@@AnimeEverything278 Eddie > brian
@@AnimeEverything278 brian can't beat Eddie in a single lift
One thing that never seems to be mentioned is the width of the 100kg dumbells eddie uses, they’re massive and must be so much more awkward to position and press than the smaller sized dumbbells Thor used
I agree man. The size and mass of Eddies dumbbells to me would seem like the would be alot harder to press, but then again im an Eddie fan so maybe im a little biased lol
But Eddie always had help to mount them so basically makes it even.
Definitely harder to position, do doubt
@@douglasnisbet1189 yeah but the point is with smaller dumbbells that were the same weight I’m sure he’d position them himself, bit unfair to mark down in a comparison that he didn’t lift them into position himself but Thor did, with what look like easier dumbells to position, not that it’s really important just a small factor
@@samboulter781 I'm not sure. No doubt Eddie had stronger shoulders and could press more, but in terms of manhandling weight(like for example positioning a dumbell) I don't think Eddie was as strong as Thor. So I'm not sure even with smaller dumbells that he could/would have positioned them himself. But tbh he's probably smarter not to. Reduce the injury risk and maximise the shoulder workout.
Eddie's statically stronger. This is widely regarded as fact.
Facts. Is water wet ?
I think the results speak for themselves, Thor won more competitions so the better all round strongman. Eddie definitely statically stronger imho, however I think Thor achieved so much because of his rivalry with Eddie and a lot of his best lifts were after Eddie retired. Nice fair video, thank you.
Thanks Sam, all fair points
Eddie retiring had nothing to do with with thor winning his tittles. They’re both around the same age eddie is one year older they just both happened to reach their prime around the same time.
Eddie's Deadlift is the Legit World Record.
Was thors deadlift sanctioned? Exacly. He is record holder do u like it or not.
I would give the incline DB to Eddie because of his angle being more difficult
But he didn’t take the DB by himself, I do this exercise every week and I know that it’s hard to lift them before first rep (I can press only 27,5kg in incline db press, but if my friends give the db at the highest point, I’ll press 32.5 (it’s 18% more btw)
@@dimon_zi222 i think it can´t be said if it matters that much if the dumbells are handed to the athlet or not in terms of wasted energy. some people might have no problem by setting them up in position by themselves. also it is just a smart move from eddie because he lowers the risk of injury by getting them handed to him
Also, when the bench is set at a low angle it doesn't really make as much difference if the weights are handed to you or not. You can sort of just lie back and move them in position for the first rep. It's much harder to do that when the bench is set at a higher Incline.
Eddie's Db are too long and awkward to start without a handoff IMO
Draw was fair but if Thor would be closer in static strength one moght have to analyse it further
More great analysis there. I’ve never had any doubt Eddie has Thor licked on pressing ability. It was his speciality for the most part. Another good example was the 2017 WSM Viking press event (which caused all the controversy leading to their fallout!).
While Eddie led the way with deadlifts, I think it’s fair to say Thor surpassed Eddie if this area eventually. Ironically both retired around the time they peaked in deads.
Squat is interesting. Can’t really make a call on that without having seen Eddie attempt a 1 rep max.
I think overall Eddie was statically one of the best that there has even been. On the other hand, Thor is one of the best strongmen that has ever been. If he wasn’t up against the likes of Shaw and Z for the most part he would have had multiple WSM titles.
I think when you account for modernized training and recovery, and drugs, that bill kazamier is the most statically strong man of all time. But I think Eddie is 2nd, and that big z and thor are in the discussion as well
It's actually insane how strong Eddie was, especially for someone who is around average height for a Strongman. Eddie could have gotten the 229kg log lift record if he wanted to. Not too sure if he could have done it outside of a loglift/overhead competition but nonetheless, an absolute freak. Thor could have trained for it but I think it'd have taken him longer. Either way, 2 phenomenal athletes that Strongman will miss dearly.
"Could've, would've, should've" are irrelevant.
@@mgu-vx4ib could have done 550 kg deadlift could've done 230 kg log could've done 1200 kg powerlifting total could have done 230 kg axel press yeah typical eddie fanboys
@@lordmegatron6145 no one did that numbers so that includes thor fanboys and all other that speaks the same...
@@lordmegatron6145 basically every fanboy of any strength athlete uses these type of words to let him appear even stronger (possibly) in their eyes to make him more favourable
it is not just an eddie fanboy thing
it is like ray williams fanboys saying that he could´ve be the first raw with raps powerlifter who sqautted 500kg but he didn´t do it (yet)
@@sineptseggib3513 yeah you are right but this eddie fanboys are far beyond the worst i have ever seen
The main difference to me between this 2 is that Eddy reached a point where he himself said if continued to push his body he was afraid he would die, so I think he reached his absolute peak strength. Whereas I don't think Thor ever reached his true peak strength.
he probably would die of heart failure at that weight but Eddie is kind of a drama queen I think he was exaggerating a little bit
hafthor didn´t stop his carrer just because of the fight he knew and also said that he would have had major health problems if he didn´t cut weight or continued using roids etc
@@sineptseggib3513 Yeah, but if he had gone on for a couple more years, he would have surpassed Eddie in some of those categories. He got out at the right time though, so we'll never know.
Yeah thor was stil improving rapidly in all the big lifts right before he retired. Its sad we never saw a truelly peaked hafthor
I think Thor was actually in the same boat when he retired. I’m not sure If I’ve ever seen a bigger man than Thor when he pulled 501. He was a behemoth. He weighed like 205kg that day. Eddie weighed like just shy of 200kg at his peak. I have it in my head Gavin Bilton has been at least 205kg but he has never looked like the mass muscle that Thor did that day.
Really well done. As fair as it's getting especially with the two parts👍
Thanks! 👍 I try to be
wait so when Eddie does 216 KG not in comp it doesn't give him the win, but when Thor deadlifts 2 pounds more out of comp it counts?
😂 my thoughts
Excellent quality video yet again mate. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos.
Hey Ollie, I'm pleased you liked it
@@StrengthUniverse I always love your videos bud. Please keep them coming!
@@olliecraig6502 Thank you, I will.
Part 2 was only really needed because the Eddie fanboys hated how much better hafthors strongman career was
Not at all, 2 parts were planned at the beginning.
@@StrengthUniverse I was wrong then sorry but I bet there was still a lot of arguing.
@@lewis9454 Actually there were comments from fans on both sides asking why I didn't include certain lifts and the reason was they were in this part 2 video
Very well put together video, I really enjoyed it!
Thank you very much!
Imagine if Eddie went into power lift competitions
All records broken
@@5mysoluap978 even more than that
I think the biggest differences between Eddie and Thor if they both competed today, would just be what they choose to focus on.
Eddie did 15x325kg in squats at 2017 WSM - In theory (!) that's 527kg max, note theoretical, the current world record is 525kgs. In my mind that's another one that should be a clear victory in this comparison.
He did 15 reps of 317.5kg in 2017. one rep calculate become increasingly inaccurate above 8 reps.
this video is clearly biased in thors favor
Eddie:I won't do powerlifting because it has little money and unhealthy
Also eddie:stays very close to his unhealthy strongman weight and doses while having too much money
I think this is because he didn't want some of his weaknesses to show (weak strapless deadlift). There's a narrative that eddie is the unofficial stronger pl ever, so he probably wanted to maintain that
@@shlok-vp4xr still everyone knows he has a fucked up finger its dumb if he doesn't try.
Hafthor tried and said if it wasn't his health issues he'd come back. But hafthor actually cut down
Eddie needed a shit ton more PED's than guys like Brian, Thor, Z etc.. to compete at the level he achieved. He could not maintain this without killing himself - and that is why he "retired". He is really the first guy to really give it that hard for a short period.
@@joebot9309 but he's still on an insane amount lol and v heavy
@@joebot9309 imo he should've really cut down to 270 or 240
The incline dumbell press is Eddie's
Have you done Eddie Vs Kazmaier? Might be tricky comparisons but would be fun to see
I have in the past but deleted it. I will have a crack at it again in the next few weeks
Deadlift: Thor, easy
Bench Press: Eddie, easy
Overhead press: Eddie, but most be noted Thor never went for max at his peak
Squat: We will never know, Thor has the heaviest squat, Eddie never tried but had potential
Grip: Thor, he always beated Eddie in Grip events so respectfully i delice the plates thing
I think Hafthor was the strongest at the end of the day, specially since both guys favorite field was the deadlift and Thor has that point, but Eddie was a more rounded static athlethe since his press was fairly stronger than Thor´s.
I'm pretty sure Eddie beat Thor on squat every time the went head to head on that event at wsm
He did but Antonio is referring to 1 rep max squat in powerlifting
@@StrengthUniverse I don't think we can really conclude that one way or another considering Eddie never attempted a powerlifting squat max during his peak. That being said, I'd argue that him beating Hafthor every time they went against each other on squat could very well imply that he would have squatted more as a max of he trained for 6 weeks like Hafthor
@@simondean5227I agree, I think Eddie was capable but it would take a lot more then 6 weeks. Hafthor had been squatting with Wraps since before 2011, it was just that his did powerlifting specific training for 6 weeks. It takes several months to really start getting the most from wraps but in theory I think Eddie could be putting up world class numbers given a few months of training. It's a shame we will never see it happen
Eddie was a better deadlifter.
All his lifts were in competition including the 501. Thors were all gym lifts. Dodgy as hell
Not counting the 501kg deadlift because it wasn't on competition is ridiculous, it's literally just deadlifting weight from the ground
"Not counting the 501kg deadlift because it wasn't on competition is ridiculous". It was counted
@@StrengthUniverse not by everyone
@@DaysRefrain No not everyone.
How about doing a vid on what kind of numbers Big Z could have achieved if he returned to powerlifting during his strongman peak?
Eddie definitely stronger and has the edge.
I think he had the slight edge in overhead and axle hold, At their peaks they were very even on the Deadlift
Eddie out deadlifted Thor. What are you talking about. 😂
Worth pointing out that Eddie consistently benched as part of his training while Hafthor only ever really did some incline dumbbells as an accessory, using 4 benching exercises in a head-to-head is obviously going to scew results in Eddie's favor. I'd prefer a comparison of only the static lifts used in Strongman (and thus what both men trained for).
While may well be true that he doesn't train bench press movements as much as Eddie your belief that "Hafthor only ever really did some incline dumbbells as an accessory" is incorrect as there are numerous video over of him doing all the movements shown in the video across several years
Its unbelievable how much these guys were lifting. Honestly what they still can lift is better than most of the people in the world. And thank you for the video
Thanks for your support. Yes their ability and rivalry is missed in strongman competitions but as you say even now they are throwing around weights that us mortals can only dream of
At their peaks: Eddie was stronger in squat, axle and log. Thor was stronger in deadlift, (strongman)dumbell, grip and basically all strongman events. I think claiming a draw in grip is incorrect. Just watch clips from all strongman competitions in grip events and Thor consistently would beat Eddie there.
Fair points although I would say that Circus DB didn't appear much as an event during that time, it's only more recently 2018 onwards that it's become a main stay at comps with much heavier DB's now used.
@@StrengthUniverse yep but if you look at Eddie at comps like BSM, he was never anything like as good at dumbell as he was at other overhead events.
@@douglasnisbet1189 Yes he always struggled with the technique. I've seen one video at the Arnolds where he put in a good performance although I think it was one of the Pro tours and not the Strongman Classic
Eddie can lift the inch dumbbell and thor couldn’t as far as the two videos of them doing I’ve seen
Thor grip is not that good. He can't lift the inch dumbell, that was show in the video he was compared to kirill
If Eddie had gone into powerlifting and met Thor there, I don't know for sure but I'd say Eddie would dominate. He probably could have squatted 500 kilo with good prep and good luck, he probably could have pulled close to 1000 pounds even without wraps, and benched close to 700 pounds.
On Squat and Bench press I would agree but nobody knows what Eddie's grip is like without straps so very hard to say.
He out deadlifted Thor many times in competition.
What's funny is that Eddie himself said at the Arnolds as a commentator before the deadlift that the ultimate measure of strength is a deadlift, so he's basically admitting Thor is stronger than him lol.
Another great video. Both are good strongman. How about lou ferrigno vs morgan aste video both are good bodybuilder and strongman. They did strongman and bodybuilding.
Hey John, It's a great idea but other then the WSM there is no videos of Lou lifting heavy
Please make a comparison video between Larry Wheels and Ronnie Coleman
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Only thing I can see that could be questionable is that it looked like Thor could have gotten a double or maybe even a triple in his squat. I would feel comfortable saying a double for sure.
Eddie would jave destroyed Thors totals. IMO Eddie would squat and bench more by a significant amount if he trained for it like Thor did. Eddie did 765 x10 no belt or knee wraps. He stopped at 8 but you can tell he had a few left in tank. Ridiculous
I think the 'wasn't done in competition' argument is bollocks. A lift is a lift. An official was there to make sure everything was above board and to officiate the lift. Magnus is an Icelander but you'll never find a more straight up, honest person. Also Thor thrives off crowd energy so competition might give him even bigger lifts. Granted in competition they might be fatigued from earlier events but that doesn't make the lift better or more worthy it just makes it not as good, it's like saying to Usain Bolt, "well your 9.58 record is not valid because you didn't run 10 races immediately prior". It makes no sense. Other Strongmen are welcome to break records in their own gym with an official there, nothing is stopping them.
Would be interesting to see Eddie hall vs danielryjov
Eddie is a machine
Eddie's bodyweight and the weight he lifts always surprise me.
Hey man, could you please do Jay Cutler Vs Brian Shaw?
They have been colabing together and it would be interesting to see how Jay would have compared at his peak
Mans an Olympian not a strongman
i think that eddie is most likely statically stronger, however thor is a better all round strenght athele
Thor’s incline dumbbell press was ego press as angle was so low
Eddie is one of the best static strongman. Thor is overall better with balance of both static and other events.
There really is no comparison in that category it took Hafthor 4 years to catch up to Eddie had he not retired I think he would still be far ahead
Eddie retired because he couldn't maintain that bodyweight. He wouldn't have improved, most likely would have regressed if he'd continued.
@@TheJoker-yz8dv bs
@@deanbarker9773 How is it BS when Eddie admitted that he retired because of his health? The guy pushed the limits
@Dean Barker Please remain respectful
can you do one between zydrunas savickas and brian shaw
there already is one
For the further maybe if it’s a draw user the time taken to complete the rep to show explosive power cause I think Eddie was faster on most of the draws
Eddy is 6'3'' but squats like height isn't a problem
The only thing that kills me about Thor is that we can only speculate how far he could've taken the deadlift. What if he RPE 10 with the energy of a roaring crowd 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
520 - 540?
@@Nirsterkur yeah ok buddy
505 at most, the heavier the weight gets the harder it is to improve
@@NSD-fp9qj it does?!?!?! Really?!?!?!?
@@-Erebus im talking to the fanboy who replied, who clearly doesn’t lift past 700lbs
How about Thor's 1433 lb ship mast lift vs eddie mast lift 900lb
Almost no one can nest Eddie in pressing power. If he truly waned the bench world record he would 100% have it imo
Also your degrees for the bench isn’t how I think most people would understand the angle of a bench usually you refer to it by like a 30° or 45° incline similar to how you say a 45° leg press
I hope the illustration makes it it easy to understand
Just saying but thinner plates would make it easier to grip them
wow. that is close
Overall with both at their peaks, yes it's surprisingly close
on squat eddie was qualifying for 2017 wsm and only had to do 6 reps. in my opinion he did not struugele at all and could probably of got 10 reps.
Eddie is a beast
Did no one realize its hafthors birthday?
eddie was a stronger presser, no doubt, hafthor was probably good for 150kg on dumbell tho.i do however belive hafthor at his peak would out squat eddie. hafthor in 2017 almost matched eddie in the squat and at the time hafthors best squat with wraps and no suit was 400x2 wich he later increased to a quite comfortable 460kg. when it comes to static strenght eddie, thor, brian and big z are the only 4 that can be compared to eachother. and btw, i think eddie never claimed to have a pb of 300kg on bench i think he said that he belived he could bench 300kg and also, why 6 different types of pressing with only 1 deadlift?. great vid anyways:)
He claimed a 300kg bench in his book.
Difficult to compare training videos. For instance, hafthor had a coach and lifted the prescribed sets and reps. Where Eddie did his own programming. Maybe this is why Eddie got injured so much and thor won so many competitions. Maybe Eddie could have been stronger if his training were different
Imo we should only judge these lifters on what they have done, and how strong they were, not how much they could've done if they train for something. Thats why I give Thor the win on the squat, maybe eddie could match/beat him if he trained it for a while, but I don't believe there is any evidence out there showing at any point he could squat 460+kgs, even with wraps
It's impossible to judge the squat fairly when they are both using completely different equipment and trained it very differently
@@StrengthUniverse like I said on the last, do you think eddie could've ever walked in and squatted 460 kgs? Not with 2 months of training it, but at his peak could he have done it? I think it's a clear no, which is why hafthor is a stronger squatter and I'd give him the win
@@shlok-vp4xr The fact is Hafthor trained squat with wraps for a years, Eddie never trained with wraps, who knows what could have been achieved if he had trained in the same way and had Seb Oreb coaching him.
@@StrengthUniverse I agree, eddie may very well have surpassed Thor. Where we disagree is you think it's fine to give it a draw based on eddies potential, while I give Thor the win since he's actually done it.
@@shlok-vp4xr I understand your point of view. It's nothing to do with potential, it's treating both athletes the same on any lift that could not be fairly judged due to differences in equipment etc as you would have seen with the grip strength comparison in this video. By your way of thinking that would have gone to Eddie as he actually lifted the 2 plates where as in my view the equipment wasn't the same and it wasn't fair to judge Hafthor on that basis as if he was trying to lift the same plates as Eddie he may well have done it, so I gave it as a draw. The very same applies to the Squat
Without a doubt Eddie is the strongest and the most gifted strong man
Since when is a thinner grip harder???
Eddie is stronger. Bench, Press, Deadlift. Yes even deadlift. Eddie hit 500 kg, he could have done more he was setting a new milestone. Hafthor trained to break it. Eddie could have done more if he needed to. Watch his deadlift and tell me he couldn’t have done 505kg that day lol.
Check out the Big Loz Official UA-cam channel; they just did a comparison between Hafthor and Eddie too
I think Thor is a bette strongman but Eddie was much more than just impressive for his size. The dude was probably the most statically strong wsm seen. Both are great though.
If there was money in powerlifting, Eddie would probably be THE power lifter since he was already so strong in a sport that favored endurance and unconventional lifting over just the three main compound movements
Why is Thor’s home bench record counted but not Eddie’s home log lift record? Either you accept home video records or you don’t
I think Eddie was statically stronger only in pressing movements, but in the squat they were equal-ish and in deadlift Hafthor was better.
2017 WSM would state otherwise.
Thus is a close one, given Thor's longer limbs length, I'd give Eddie the win on any type of pressing event. It really looked like Thor could have done 2 or possibly 3 reps with that massive squat, and in Thor prime his legs were absolutely massive. Thor wins the squat or at least draws even. I believe Thor in 2020 was a stronger DL than Eddie, or at least as strong. In Strongman Thor is better, due to his height, but it really depends on the events. Any type of stones Thor wins. Static events Eddie edges him out, but in close. Both of these men are inhumanly strong.
Thor’s 501 didn’t have other athletes to contest with
So? Tom's 286 kg atlas stone didn't have other athletes to contest with but nobody complained about that. Thor still had stricter rest times between lifts than Eddie had
you compared competition lifts w gym lifts lol
Why didn't we compare squat lift at WSM instead of squats in the gym? Just too many reps?
It's in the first video: "How strong is Eddie Hall vs Hafthor Bjornsson" which compares their performances in strongman competition
eddie is real strongman forever...
Eddie hubiera sido el mejor powerlifter de la historia.
Eddie Hall did it again with that stunt showing up at the Dubai Gym where Thor was training. The FIGHT has been cancelled due to ongoing investigations regarding a severely injured Dubai resident. Dubai has strict laws.
Thor is a better strongman because his height helped and his moving ability with weight inc loading races ....statically eddie is stronger no doubt but its not the crucial factor in being a great strongman,a prime Thor is possibly the most well rounded /greatest strongman we will ever see
Should have only included lifts to the date Eddie retired
Why is that?
For tall guy thor log and squat was samething
You made it seem that Eddie had better grip than Thor that he didn't Thor won most grip events and had a better raw powerlifting deadlift that shows that he had better grip. Also Thor was better in max stone atlas or natural for max better in max circus dumbell and better in the max heavy yoke that shows core strength and overall strength he can move more weight. He has better power lifting total end of story he is a stroner. With only 6 months he almost did the best powerlifting total ever.
Thor did EQUIPPED powerlifting, and even then, his lifts were mediocre in the super heavyweight. His equipped squat was mediocre; his bench was mediocre; his dl was barely ok. All those lifts are easily beaten by some raw powerlifters. In comparison, Larry Wheels, being much much lighter, had a better bench and almost as good squat and dl RAW; not even talking about the super heavyweight guys. 😏
Thor could train bench forever and still would never be able to bench 600 lbs, just like Brian Shaw (who trained benching for a long time to achieve the 600lb goal but had to give up because he couldn't).
@Nick Konstantinidis Hey Nick, you comment "You made it seem that Eddie had better grip than Thor" I suggest you rewatch and listen carefully to the video. You then talk about the Atlas stones, natural stone and Super Yoke all of which are dynamic events; not static and I have covered most of these in the Part 1 video. You also state "He has better power lifting total end of story" Eddie has never competed in a full powerlifting meet so it's impossible to say.
@@ytsux9259 Mediocre? Lmao, are you serious? Thor 's total is now at #12 all time. After a 6 week prep which is incredibly short. If you count his 460 kg squat, which was easy and had better depth than the squats from other guys on the list who got white lights, it puts him at 1120 kg which is #4 best of all time. How on earth is that mediocre?
@@TheJoker-yz8dv also he almost lifted 430 kg in deadlift, but he failed because of his grip (he lifted it, but then he dropped it) It could be 1140 kg total, it’s 2 or 3 place
Hapftor never got the 500 kilo Record on deadlift bar, theyre diferent events in strongman. He beat all the other records... xD
I think it's fair to say that both were freakishly strong at their peak, but Hafthor was a bit more accomplished
Two incredibly strong guys. But while not a better boxer Eddie edges Thor in power pressing.
I think Eli haul the base is much more stout and a fourth or the mountain I mean he needs just built better to be a strong man of war is too tall to be able to do the same thing
Why did you use Thor's 460 squat? It was a failed lift
I am not comparing 2 competition lifts, I am comparing Hafthors best to Eddie best otherwise all the Hafthor fans will complain "why didn't you use Hafthor's 460.....You're Biased!"
@@StrengthUniverse I guess i understand, but like he didn't do the lift 🤭. But it's completely fair since it's just UA-cam entertainment
Who has the stronger trash talk though? 😏
Its sad we never saw a truelly peaked thor. He was still improving so fast right before he retired. The difference sebastian oreb made in his static lifts was insane. Both freak athletes.
why is the deadlift counted out of competition but the log lift was not counted out of competition, you could argue with the incline dumbell press that Thor is using wrist wraps and elbow support giving two more wins to Eddie, and if you don't contradict yourself that would be 3
Listen to what I say about all the deadlifts in context, not just the 501. Hafthor won the deadlift based on multiple deadlift's not just the 501kg, I thought the video made that pretty clear.......Wrist Wraps and Elbow Sleeves provide no additional advantage.
@@StrengthUniverse but if you subtracted the lifts based only on competition as you did on log lift Eddie would technically come out on top, wrist wraps and elbow support reduce the strain on those lifts allowing them to push harder without injury, Its said that it does help a small amount and in this video even if it helped by 0.01% the win would go to Eddie no? Appreciated the reply though thanks
@@StrengthUniverse so for instance while Halfthor lifted more after Eddie retired and beat all his old records if you are happy to contradict yourself in the log lift (not counting out of competition) and deadlift (counting competetion) then it's fine but it seems to me like a rule that works well for thor, for instance if you only count competition it's a draw on the log and a win for Eddie with 500kg on deadlift, if you are counting all lifts(which you don't in log, Ed lifted 216 out of comp but do in deadlift?) Eddie would win log and thor deadlift, which I believe is fair don't you? Understandable you seem biased towards halfthor with the rules that apply only too make him win (deadlift)or draw (log)
@@StrengthUniverse and to say that wrist and elbow support supply no benefit I uneducated when bringing in other factors, your biased like in 2017 you believed it was made for Eddie but it was 3 dynamic 3 static making it equal, if thor done better on dynamic then he would have had an equal chance of winning, not rigged to make Eddie win but equal both having an equal amount of static and dynamic. Don't belittle people without thinking it through
@@StrengthUniverse won't get a reply because you ain't got shit to say about it 😒 or you will answer something other then what I was pointing out
Thor using arm sleeves and eddy wasnt. I’d give the win to eddy
Grip strength draw???😂😂😂 Eddie smokes Hafthor on that. On a video with Larry, Hafthor himself had said that he has a bit of nerve problems hence it affects his grip strength.
You mean Hafthor smokes Eddie? When they competed against each other in strongman Hafthor always beat Eddie in grip events. Also, Thor won the grip event at WSM 2019.
@The Joker, do you know the name of the push/pull meet?
@@TheJoker-yz8dv doesn't change the fact what Hafthor mentioned himself. 😂
@@prithwirajbhardwaj9295 Results and stats don't lie. Thor always beat Eddie in grip events and he literally won the grip event at WSM 2019. Also has a higher deadlift without straps than Eddie
@@TheJoker-yz8dv Thank you, looks like anything goes: figure 8 straps, Deadlift suits, bench press feet don't have to remain in contact with the floor......Very strange comp
It's not really fair to make it a draw in the squat comparison considering Thor's squat is 115kg heavier.
Eddie has squatted 405kg and in theory based off his easy 345kg for 8 has a 1rm of 428kg, Hafthor has done 460kg, therefore there is less 55kg difference, then factor in the use of a belt and knee wraps which can add 50kg or more for experienced lifters.
@@StrengthUniverse "In theory" doesn't mean anything though, we have evidence of Thor squatting 460 but as for Eddie squatting 405kg I'll believe it when I see it.
@@Wishmaster787 true
Different body types do well in different types of lifts. A large body and shorter arms certainly favor a type like Hall in events like the bench press as his arms do not need to travel as far. Using this logic I have determined that the T-Rex is without a doubt the dinosaur bench press record holder.
There's a reason Thor didn't win WSM until after Eddie retired. Eddie had a better deadlift, way better overhead press on everything, and he could out squat thor. Eddie's static strength was the best ever. That being said, Thor transformed his body after Eddie left and truly became the strongest man on the planet. If he didn't retire, I'm sure he would be a multiple winner of WSM.
Why did eddie only beat thor once in his career? Thor demolished eddie in most comps. 8 consecutive podium finsihes at WSM and 2 tines he missed 1ste by 1 point. He also has 10international titles and 39 in total. Where eddie only has 1 international title with 14 titles overall. Eddie needed to be perfect on the day to beat thor, but it was only a matter of time before thor won WSM.
Thor had no weaknesses. He was very good in all events. Eddie had 5 or 6 very good events and struggled with the rest of the events. The ones in the 2017 wsm final was 4 of eddies best events.
Eddie hall is way more stronger has far more better form with slower reps he should still be known as the world's strongest man
Where has Hathor deadlifted 480kg raw only video I can find is using a weird elephant bar in his gym as you claim he’s beat eddies raw deadlift?
Look at the Arnold's Classic's Thor elephant bar record.
@BR FITNESS The bar in his gym is not an elephant bar, it s standard bar with extend sleeves and thus the flex is the same as a conventional bar so his 480 beats the 463 and I believe it was done with standard straps not figure 8 straps (from memory) although it wasn't done in competition it was with calibrated plates
A great strongman's greatest strength is not his strength
The difference is Haftor trained for strongman bot records. Eddie's ibfmates his own hype by having train each lift one at a time to chase records, wich almost none of the greatest did. If you take Haftor, brian, Zydrunas they all chased titles not pr. 2020 Haftor could destroy almost any record in strongman if he wanted to. Wich is why Eddie is a one time wonder with great pr and Haftor is one of the best strongman ever at peak. Eddie's pr on lft he is over Haftor arent even that much higher, and that's with haftir not even actively trying
i have never read so much BS before
Yeah thor chased titles and trained to be a complete strongman athelete. Eddie focused on static events and only had about 5 or 6 events where he was very good in. Thor had no weaknesses. Placing top 3 in almost every event. Thats why he has so many more titles than eddie
Seems like you’re trying to trash Eddie. It doesn’t matter that Thor’s 501 deadlift wasn’t in competition but Eddie doing more than Thor in training on log doesn’t count?
Listen to what I say about all the deadlifts in context, not just the 501. Hafthor won the deadlift based on multiple deadlift's not just the 501kg, I thought the video made that pretty clear
Incline dumbell press hafthor won cause he lifted and stes up the weight all by himself
Don't forgive fact that no matter whether the 501kg was lifted in competition or not, Thor lifted it, walked away like it was nothing but Eddie lifted it and colapsed, nearly died as he said in his video he couldn't function well couple of days. So I would say this speaks of itself.
does anybody know the aftermath of thors 501kg deadlift? i can´t imagine him being fine the next day
the next day after a deadlift maxout is hard for me i am tired all day and my lower back is sore and i do not even lift half of what they did
but for Eddie the damage was done when he kept holding it for that long
His stories on instagram showed he did boxing training the day after. Look totally fine. He did a post after the deadlift aswell where he did light cardio.
i like you but that log lift and incline.. comon dude. He presses 213 way easier and almost did the world record you should have given log to eddie. Not fair
I agree it looked easier but I work on facts as far as is possible and the fact is the best both have done in comp with the same equipment is identical.
eddie upperbody thor lower.
thor is a better deadlifter equipped, raw, etc the results speak for themselves and thor didnt peak yet
Thor takes the win easy