Try to use disc locks on all 3 discs, the rear especially as it's harder to get to. Also use 2 disc locks on each front disc, 1 against the leading edge of the forks, and 1 up underneath the caliper. This means the wheel cannot be rotated, and if you've done the same on the rear disc the bike cannot be rolled at all. This helps to prevent the skateboard trick of lifting one end of the bike onto a skateboard or sack barrow and rolling the bike away. Chain the back wheel up through luggage/top box racking. There's also chaining the front wheel to the centre stand, chain pulled tight so the bike cannot be dropped off the centre stand. There's plenty of ways to secure a bike if you are willing to take the time to do it, after all it's just got to be more of a pain to steal than the bike that's next to yours.
None of that stops 2 blokes pulling up and lifting it into a van though.. your methods will stop the teenagers yeah but most bike thieves throw it in a stolen van and fuck off never to be seen again lol
Great upload, thanks. I agree, more locks the better. Best to avoid the Oxford Screamer, it doesn't like cold weather, a few hours outside and the alarm will go off or if reactivating it, it will continuously go off at a different pitch. In those cases, I have to bring it indoors to heat up, which defeats the purpose lol
Agreed, for the money the Screamer goes for I think the Oxford big boss alarm style disc locks, especially the 16mm version are much better value and more reliable.
Almax rusts like crazy, a few years of outdoor use leaves it looking like it spent 50 years in the sea. When I took the sleeve off my 2M Almax III I got about 700ml of rust scale out of it, and that's before any wire brushing or whatever. I fear this may have compromised the case hardening. By comparison, an Oxford used in exactly the same location has slight surface rust, and another I believe is "English Chain" has none. The Squire SS65 locks used on both the Almax and the "English" have a tiny bit of cosmetic surface corrosion, the Oxford Boss alarm lock used on the Oxford chain had just enough corrosion inside to make it difficult to withdraw the battery holder, I had to push it out using a pick in the shackle hole. Worth noting the only thing on the bike that's rotted at a similar rate is the the bolts in the cheap chinese bar-ends.
My best so far. 1. Allen bolt and its nut. It's small, almost invisible at first glance. Slip into disc brake hole. And l drop my bike. 2. Remove ignition fuse. I'm sweating because l forgot to put it back. 3. Keyless, immobilizer, alarm. Yea... It's expensive, but it give time. 4. Have unpopular bike, lower chances to get stolen. 5. In garage, put bike between wall and car. So there no way bike moved. Need move the car first.
I really think the clipped on bike cover is the real deterrent. The Scummers might know the type of bike but can't really come properly prepared because the bike might have 3 or 4 layers of security underneath. And lets face it they are fundamentally lazy bstds.
A little bit simplistic but when my girl is in the garage I park my car right up against the door. In order to get to her they'd have to move my car first which is an automatic so left in gear with an electronic parking brake. Personally I'd like to hide a hand grenade under the seat since I'm unlikely to get her back anyway might as well take something of theirs in return eh? But my other girl (my long suffering wife) says that's a bit extreme 🤔
I think the most important point you touched on was the idea of putting the lowlives off of an attempt on your bike in the first place. A premeditated and planned theft will succeed 99% of the time, but make it as unattractive and griefy as possible and they’ll pick another bike that’s easier... thieves are lazy... So I use two Oxford XL chains, one round the front wheel and forks, the other round the back wheel and through the frame, each attached to a ground anchor, and bike is covered - I think covering a bike has a huge positive effect - if they can’t see it, they will pick one that stands out over it... again thieves are lazy, that’s why they are thieves! Front chain attached to disc/padlock also. It’s hassle when I go out, but if it’s annoying for me, it must be hassle for lowlives as well!
I'd add to this and say that I use my old knackered cover over the top of a much nicer one, extra layer of water resistance but also its looks shite! Nobody is going to expect anything decent being under there
Locking the cover on is an easy extra deterrent too and if your chain isn't positioned to secure your cover you can use a bicycle style cable lock extension to secure the cover.
Chain suggestions For home use Make sure the chain is 16mm+ Almax Pragmasis Oxford beast Squire ABUS Milenco And for taking out with you make sure the chain is 12mm+ ABUS Granit Extreme X-plus 59 Milenco Coleraine ABUS Granit 58 loop lock-chain ABUS Platinum chain 34 recommended.
I had my scooter eyed up and touched out the back of my house. Only knew this, as I have a blink camera on my washing line pole facing the bike lol if I didn't have that my scooter would probably have been stolen. After seeing the footage I posted to the towns Facebook group and contacted the police and they identified the person in the footage. I have since put a big fence up now. Amazon Blink cameras are amazing :)
I don’t lock mine and leave the keys in the ignition, I live in a Avenue with no way through, I sleep above the garage and my ex military Alsatian sleeps next to my bike, savage will alert me if some one enters the top of the Avenue 100 yards away with 4 barks , if they come closer the bark will become more frequent, if they come closer it turn to snarling and ramming the door to get to them, I can open my door remotely from my bed, after I have identified who it is from my cctv.👊👍
I bought an Asgard shed, which yes are rather expensive but are well worth it. I then bought 2 Abus Granit London U shackles which I put 1 on each wheel and then I bought a kryptonite New York 13 mm chain with a Squire stronghold padlock and to top it off I bought an Oxford 10mm chain with Master lock Pro series Bouron shackle. Oh yes 😆 I also bought an alarm for the shed and one for the bike, fitted CCTV and have a 10 stone Saint Bernard who sleep right next to the door and lets you know the moment anybody goes near the side gate. The joys of OCD.
Also for the: It wont happen to me, I live in a safe neighbourhood crowd. There was a Honda SP2 stolen recently in a sleepy village in the middle of nowhere near where I live. The village had barely 100 people maximum, and the only way you'd know its there is if you are driving through and saw it. Yours might be a safe neighbourhood, but thieves have vans to travel there.
Spot on Russ, very well advised. As an ex police officer you've explained this all perfectly! Some good info on the testing of so called secure devices. Much appreciated once again!
Covers are very underrated, if you could get one preferably all black with the holes near the wheels so a cable lock or chain can fit through it’s a good start.
I've always carried a padlock instead of a disc lock, for my 'convenient to carry' deterrent. Basically because you can get a padlock with a hexagonal shackle, so you'd have to cut it twice to get it off. Twice the time, twice the hassle. Can also easily be used with a chain and/or put through the disc or sprocket...
Whether it's a motorbike or a bicycle you need a security system and not just a security lock. There are now also u-locks available that are angle grinder resistant so for my e-bike I'm using a Litelok X3 which is on pre-order for next month + I also use two motion alarmed disc locks which sound off a warning before they go off fully as well as a Samsung Galaxy smart tag.
Keep it out of sight, cover on the bike, locked with chain to a solid object and disc lock. Got tracking as well which is cool but I like to think I’m keeping it semi safe... like you said, if they really want it- they will find a way of stealing it.
I agree about the cover, being locked with a chain to a solid object and the disc lock, however I would rather have it somewhere were there are lots of people about. Keeping it out of sight only means that a thief will be able to get to work stealing your bike pretty much undisturbed.
@@Seagull-Matthames out of sight like not out in the sunshine and in clear view. a main road but you park it behind a car, on a busy high street but keeping it covered, or in a car park with cctv rather than an alley way behind Morrison’s.
If its inconvenient for you then it will be more inconvenient for the thief dont just put one lock on it use a few with different brands even if it takes you 10mins getting it all off if someones going to steal your stuff then make them work very hard for it either they will give up half way or somebody's going to notice cutting through locks and chains makes alot of sound specially multiple locks added alarms as well.
The only disc lock I've not seen London bike thieves get past is the Xena XX series. They're alarmed disc locks and can be fitted either between the fork and brake calliper meaning they cannot get at the disc to cut it (I've seen Xena's removed in this way) or I put mine on the rear disc between the calliper and swingarm. Defo recommend giving them a look although mines the slightly older model without bluetooth but that hasn't been an issue.
Thanks for sharing these tips. I used to rely on blocking the bike in with the car (cage) but in a spate of thefts at the time the vermin were cutting brake cables and moving cars to remove people's pride joy and Transport. Frustrates me that we have to do so much but as said, let's not make it easy for the scumbags
You don't need the best lock. Just a better lock than the guy next to you, or a better than average lock. Best is a mix of stuff to slow them down. When parked, by bike is in a parking garage below the building where I live. I know that parking a bike inside is deemed to be safer, but I think the contrary is true. When it's inside, thieves can work undisturbed as opposed to outside. When my alarm goes off in a garage, nobody can tell where it's coming from. Apart from a couple of locks (I have a heavy chain and an anchor in the wall, and a disc lock), a motorcycle cover is also a good idea. Thieves hate those things, because when there's an alarm, they can't see it directly and they also don't know what they will find under the cover. So they can't really plan anything. When I'm on the road, I just use the disc lock, the BMW alarm and steering lock. Obviously all of that can be broken, but I've fulfilled the demands of the insurance. Both the disc lock and the alarm are approved by the insurance. And I also have good protection against thieves that operate out of vans where they lift your bike in the van and work on the locks eleswhere: my bike weighs 340kg... 🤣🤣🤣
Good advice, thanks. As you suggest yourself, I was advised very early on that what you're basically aiming to do is cause them hassle, and consider that another target might be a better option (for them). I use chains myself - but knowing that they can all be potentially cut by someone tooled up and determined, I make sure that there isn't a convenient slack loop that they can (easily) get the bolt-croppers (or power tool) to. Or at least, that's what I hope and think I'm doing! Additional tip. Just nipping in the shop for a minute? Then that's about 10 seconds more than the time they need to bundle it into a van. I've also seen video of people lifting up and removing chained/disc-locked/shackled bikes with a small lorry plus crane (like builders use to get bricks and bags of sand delivered) - think about that when you leave yours, and maybe slot into between a couple of cars, behind a lamp-post - use whatever cover and inconvenience you can. Thanks for the tips and info, Russ.
You forgot the most important,an Insurance company that will pay out with the smallest amount of excess so Your getting most of the value of the bike back from them.
12 gauge shotgun on a rotating system with a sensor lol and a moat full of crocodiles lol. You forgot them lol. I have a few things on my Michigan. I think the more items you put on is better than nothing. Like you said make it hard for them. 🙂
Im glad you said how poor the brake lever lock is, even easier is undo the bleed nipple, releases the pressure on the pads, literally 1 second and that device is null and void, but what really gets my goat up is so many reviewers who say how great that product is just because they got sent one and its a paid review, some people would literally sell their soul for a few views
Great video Russ, with plenty of practical advice. If it has spark plugs (and in a addition to locks), just lift the plug caps and put a small, none conductive piece of wood between the the plug cap and the plug. Most thieves are pond life and will never figure it out. A gravel driveway is cheap and noisy.
Of course, this only works if you have quick acces to the plugs I don't feel like propping up the tank and removing the airbox to 'unsabotage' my sparkplugs every morning before I (can) go to work
Tracker wise, automatricks M-track is a good option. Similar price to the smaller ones but with a massive battery and RF finding capabilities. You pay a monthly fee (15 quid) but they go and recover the bike for you, phone the police and everything. The best option I've found by far when it comes to trackers. Otherwise agree with the entire video. Almax chains and Squire locks. Keep them off the ground and use a cover if you can. Not much else you can do. Oh actually, bicycle alarms ! Hide them under the front of the bike and if anybody moves the bike it will beep, super cheap and quite effective !
Check out the monimoto device - if you move the bike without the bluetooth dongle being nearby then it alerts you via text/mobile app. It also allows you to track the bike and battery life is probably fine for 12 months.
One thing I don't see mentioned here which I've used for a long time and which is dirt cheap, is a baby monitor. Last attempt at getting into my garage the thieves had woken me up poking about before they'd even started.
Bloody scummers. Mates in the US are shocked at how bad it is here for theft. All the police do is hand out crime numbers like it’s a sort of attendance voucher.
The best research is probably to just send the lock to the Lockpicking Lawyer. If it takes him half the time to pick it than to talk about it, it's already doing well.
Of course, I always put my steering lock on. But, if I was another person, I would keep my bike locked up in my garage with a massive lock (and tracker), and just leave the steering lock off so that when that person who is not me's bike was to be found, there would be - hopefully - less damage to repair. But of course, always keep the lock on when parked up on the street. I use the Abus 8077, I watched a video of someone angle grinding one off and it took them about 5 minutes - with a plugged in angle grinder, so that gave me confidence. I also use Automatrics tracker, it's a self contained unit that lasts 18 months on one charge, and it has GPS, GSM and RF tracking with it, so if it's in a metal box or something the chaps come out to the last location of the GPS and then track it themselves with a RF scanner. They have a youtube channel and the dedication to getting customer's stuff back is admirable, they go all over the country, cross the channel even, and stake out waiting for police for as long as it takes. Unbelievable service, the bonus is they are based very close to where I live so I would imagine they would be on scene very quickly if my bike were to be stolen. Personally, I do not put any stickers on my bike saying it's being tracked; I'd rather they didn't go looking for the unit, but if they did it is rather well hidden - and has a tamper plate that sends out a special alert. I have felt a lot more at ease since having that tracker!
I fitted a theatrical sound grenade on a trip wire in my garage. But after setting it of accidentally I went back to a battery powered alarm. Three years later my hearing is almost back to normal. On the upside it killed every spider in the place.
Only addition i would make is pick resistance. A lot of locks may look beefy but have easily or moderately easily bypassable cores. I like lockpickinglawyer for illuminating that aspect.
Made me laugh when you said ask me how I know about forgetting to remove the disc lock 😂😂 I had an embarrassing incident in Asda carpark on a Honda Silverwing....it only happened the once 😂😂
I use a sold secure gold Oxford disc lock (no alarm) because that's what I said I was using on my insurance. I also have the luxury of keeping the bike in the garage with an electric door with no external handle.
Trying to drive off with the disc lock still in eh? Shame on you, that most certainly couldn't have been me at any point in time, no sir, not at all... :) thanks for the vid!
I doubt there are many bike thieves carrying 3 foot bolt cutters in their pockets! It appears there are a lot of bike thieves in the UK. We don’t have near that many in the US where I live!
Ive tried to get a Almax chain a few times. Mailed them about shipping 2 or 3 times at this stage but never hear anything back. I do think they are the best chain out there, but their customer service is poor.
My last road trip was on a Harley 2018 Fat Bob FXFBS. I never worried about it getting stolen it never did get stolen and I never used alarms or tracking devices. I now own a triumph tiger 900 GT pro and I'm going to take it on a West Coast trip. For some reason I'm more concerned about this motorcycle so I put a tracker on it and I'll be using two disc brake lock one on the front and rear.
I only started riding 2 years ago and was given the advice that you can't prevent bike thieves, only delay them and inconvenience them, so layer up on security. At home, my bike is out in the front garden, so I use a ground anchor, Abus granite chain, Abus granite U-lock, the same disc alarm as in your video, noise disabled unfortunately, too sensitive and cover it with a stormX cover. I also have motion sensor lights. If someone were to nick my bike, they'd bloody deserve it! When out & about I carry the U-lock & chain.
I don’t use my steering lock ! The chances are it’s something I will have to repair after some scab has tried taking my bike. Also, have you noticed that bike covers don’t fit right when the steering is turned to one side ? My main security is a heavy chain & a mini D lock. The chain is long enough to go around a solid object & the mini D lock is just the right size to go through the brake disk making it very hard to remove from the bike without causing a lot of damage. The chain obviously goes through the wheel as well meaning many cuts would be needed to remove the combination. I also have an alarmed disk lock with a reminder cord. At home on the driveway I have a chain anchor point.
Great video. I find an Alarm Disc Lock and Handlebar Lock to be imo the perfect combination for lightweight security when going to shops and most people(where I’m from) tend to only use fork lock so you’ll be at a better chance of being safe than most. If I’m going to be somewhere a bit longer I take a chain too personally
The age of the video is irrelevant and since you asked how they got the shackle lock off your bike, they picked the lock. I've seen countless videos about bike security (that's why I'm here), and you guys need to know that anything that uses a key can be opened in about 3-5 seconds. It does not matter who makes the lock, it only matters if they guy stealing your bike knows how and has the tool(s) in his pocket. It takes only minutes to learn, costs about $100 and you can pick any key lock on the planet nearly as fast as you can with a key and no one will know you are doing it. These locks are deterrents for most people, I agree with that, but time and opportunity is usually what everyone else relies on. But a picker will have your lock off, engine started and rolling away in 20 seconds.
Why can't we lock the brake(line)s? Like premium cars do. Why don't motorcycle builders use real and effective steeringlocks? Instead of the locks from noodles they use now. Discbrake locks are removed by cutting the brakedisc left and right from the lock. So you don't need 5 star rated discjockey as they are useless. As long as the removed part is smaller then the brakepad they can still use the brakes while being pushed foreward by another motorcycle during getting off.
My most recent theft (3rd in 3 years) bike had an alarmed disc lock which they silenced when lifting the bike as I was sleeping only a few metres away. How did they do that?
I got lucky a theif broke into my garage ripping the door off smashing my disc alarm with ease but the fools couldn't get through my oxford chain and anchor! I got pretty lucky but out of spite they smashed my headlamp off and cut all my wires
my bike ktm 390 duke stolen week a go front of people its have abus disc lock , but there cut the disk and left the lock , i got alram in bike alarm in disk lock
there is no way to stop thieves. in the corner situation one can approach you with the gun and you will give him the key probably the only way to get the money back is insurance
I park my electric scooter with 2 disc locks with alarms one in front wheel and one in back wheel 120 decibels 2x 2 would be so noisy....and one chain lock to a pole and nfc with gps tracker.....last but not least i cover it with motorcycle cover so it would not attract attention to thieves. and lastly where i work has a cctv pointing to it. yeah i agree with you even small cheap locks at least its a good deterant to thieves...even thou they can still go thru it but at least it buys u time to call a police and get to them them.
that nicely summed everything up! I fully agree with your comment on the steering lock, its unbelievable how weak security such a thing provides and how much damage it causes (in cash) when you try to repair it afterwards - if you are lucky and you dont lose your pride and joy all together. Also, the existence of CCTV by itself is no deterrent, lowlifes dont care. Unfortunately, in some cases cameras provide a fake feeling of security to the owner (ask me how i know) .. Just saying..
I use 99% of what you covered at once ever since my first bike (ZX6R) got stolen. The only thing I don't use is chaining it to an immovable object. Although I am thinking about linking it through the bumper of my car where they have little tow hook. So at least at home it'll be anchored to something.
I used 2 10mm chains, 1 brake lock and 1 disc lock every time. I have always said you have yo make it harder for them to brake everything. On a lighter note that yellow disc lock reminder did not help me lol got a video up on it too lol
Hi Russ interesting video you have put up never seen how easy it is to break the steering lock, These type of people that seem to believe that they have the right to take what does not belong to them, Can one obtain a steel wire that is not very easy to cut with bolt cutters or grinder, Kind regards, Steph
it's not the bike manufacturers but the insurance companies who should dictate minimum specs for new bike security for such things as steering locks and immobilisers or say they will not insure them. At home I have a rock anchor for ground security, tracker and Smartwater protection also cctv covers its home position.
I liked the idea of ensuring the chain doesn't drag on the ground thus enabling easy bolt-cutter action. That could easily make the difference between success and failure. I can't imagine how the perps would manage with the chain in the air.
If they move the bike away from what it’s locked to, causing the chain to have a tight strain in the air, it’s basically the same as being on the floor unfortunately
Never rely on one lock or one chain, no matter how good or expensive they are... Because it won’t take more then a minute to grind one lock off or a chain... I use 4 locks on mine when leaving it outside somewhere, and chained to something you cannot move if leaving it for long. Two locks are alarmed and the other two are normal. Front wheel two locks, one alarmed, rear sprocket lock, and a rear wheel with alarmed lock... Maybe sounds like an overkill, but I would rather always comeback to my bike and ride away, then discover a broken lock or a chain on the floor instead of the bike that I worked hard for.... A tank bag is big enough for 4 locks and it takes less then a minute to put them all on and take them off... Make it a real pain in in the ass for the bastards , and they probably won’t even bother... If they cannot take it fast, they will probably avoid... Grinding off 4 locks will take some time, make lots of noise and attract attention ... So the main thing is not to be lazy to lock it properly, and don’t care about other people’s opinion when it comes to security of your bike ... :) If you working at the same place all the time, you can bring your big heavy chain once and leave it at work somewhere hidden... don’t have to carry it home back and forth all the time...
I leave my almax immobiliser 5 chained to a lamppost opposite my work place - cheap small d-lock at front so I don’t forget it’s locked upfront, Abloy padlock and another d-lock on the front disc. Got news from a doorman tonight that three cunts were eying up my bike, lifting the chain etc, so I purchased an Abus Granit Detecto disc lock and a Kovix brake-lever lock when I got home. The bullshit you have to go through owning a bike in London
I agree Russ, a ‘layered’ approach to security is the best way to make the scumbags move onto another target. The Litelock would seem to be a solution for heavy/ bulky chains, however, I’ve only seen sponsored reviews. Have you (or any of your subscribers who might read this) any real experience of this product?
I've seen the lite lock hacked through in 16 seconds. That's what's made me do this upload. You tubers saying it's great when they're given one free ua-cam.com/video/D-On0DGcDlc/v-deo.html
Fit your disc lock to the back wheel, I know it's a lot harder work to fit and remove but you try dragging a big bike on it's front wheel. Also there is a round body & pin rotating disc lock that is almost impossible to cut with a disc grinder as it rotates easily and is very hard to hold due to it's shape, it's a big name brand so I won't mention it.
@@alexmorgan3435 Fair comment, didn't want to invite promotional critics, also I couldn't remember at the time. It's the ABUS Granit Victory XPlus 68 long name for what is quite a compact lock.
@@RoadcraftNottingham Abus do a version like this, I think Oxford have a Patriot branded version and Pragamsis at securityforbikes have their own version called the RoundLock.
Had my bike stolen beginning of the year. It was recovered not far from me. Had I not put the steering lock on. I would’ve just got my bike back and rode off. But due to the damage I couldn’t start it cost £400 to fix. I never Leave my steering lock on ever.
I wouldn't trust any theif who wears double denim.......🤣 Great commentary on security, I even use strong cable locks on my soft luggage when touring to be extra safe 👍
I've had two of the granit ones. The first one held for about a a year and a half before it literally fell apart while I was unlocking it. Thought I was just unlucky and got another one. After a few months it started acting up. Alarm goes off even if completely still. Now I use that one without batteries :(
I Like This Video..I had My Scooter Stolen Some Time Ago..And I Got it Back..Now I Have An Alarm Disk Break Lock For The Front Wheel And and A Back Wheel Lock
So, just to sum up! I need 10 locks, a garage, German Shepard, st Bernard, loaded shot gun and explosives! Bit expensive! Maybe a few zip ties will do! 😅😄😃🤣
i had a small 8quid disc lock from ebay on my sv650s rear wheel. went to pull away after chatting to old guy about our bikes, forot it was on there, PING! felt something was wrong. disc lock pin shattered. sv fine. useless ''lock''. ive got an 8 wk old kitten on my neck- please help.
Any device or bracking system that locks the brakes in brake locked position like hand brake when ignition off and oem key removed then bike wheels can't spin until bike turn on or braking system cut off or removed. Its some difficult to ride a bike without brake for thieves they are in hurry and end up in accident. It doesn't help when the bike carried by van but it will help most of the time. Hidden fuel pump cut off switch or only be working with nfc then if the rider away from bike fuel pump stop working so the bike can't be bikejacked.
I use a disc lock alarm like the first one shown, a big motorbike chain and bolts secured with nuts in the calipers and its also covered in a plain black cover in my back garden I've also got a big dog and a katana in my house. Think my dirt bike should be okay hopefully.
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Ive just brought a TC Max Electric motorbike, i can take the battery out and leave it indoors, the battery is £1500 new, so makes the bike worthless and not worth stealing, i do still use my disc locks and bike cover though, but make your bike not worth stealing in the first place is just another deterrent.
My method for "not-forgetting-to-remove-your-bloody-disk-lock". I have a piece of velcro that goes across the keyhole of the disc lock. When I place the disc lock the piece of velcro moves from covering the keyhole on the lock to the ignition key hole of the bike. So when I want to ride away I can't insert the bike key without removing the strip of velcro that goes back to living on the disc lock when not in use.
That bloke won't be throwing them moves with the bold croppers If the chain was attached to a bike locked to a ground anchor right up next to a corner of a wall. You need room to crop chains.
Try to use disc locks on all 3 discs, the rear especially as it's harder to get to.
Also use 2 disc locks on each front disc, 1 against the leading edge of the forks, and 1 up underneath the caliper. This means the wheel cannot be rotated, and if you've done the same on the rear disc the bike cannot be rolled at all.
This helps to prevent the skateboard trick of lifting one end of the bike onto a skateboard or sack barrow and rolling the bike away.
Chain the back wheel up through luggage/top box racking.
There's also chaining the front wheel to the centre stand, chain pulled tight so the bike cannot be dropped off the centre stand.
There's plenty of ways to secure a bike if you are willing to take the time to do it, after all it's just got to be more of a pain to steal than the bike that's next to yours.
None of that stops 2 blokes pulling up and lifting it into a van though.. your methods will stop the teenagers yeah but most bike thieves throw it in a stolen van and fuck off never to be seen again lol
That’s an awful lot of time to lock up just to grab a loaf of bread though.
@@nlmaster9811 Clown!
@@offshoretinker He's right though.
Great upload, thanks. I agree, more locks the better. Best to avoid the Oxford Screamer, it doesn't like cold weather, a few hours outside and the alarm will go off or if reactivating it, it will continuously go off at a different pitch. In those cases, I have to bring it indoors to heat up, which defeats the purpose lol
Thanks for the feedback.
Agreed, for the money the Screamer goes for I think the Oxford big boss alarm style disc locks, especially the 16mm version are much better value and more reliable.
Mines been fine, down to minus temps 🤷🏻♂️
Solid advice straight to the point. Thanks
Almax rusts like crazy, a few years of outdoor use leaves it looking like it spent 50 years in the sea. When I took the sleeve off my 2M Almax III I got about 700ml of rust scale out of it, and that's before any wire brushing or whatever. I fear this may have compromised the case hardening.
By comparison, an Oxford used in exactly the same location has slight surface rust, and another I believe is "English Chain" has none. The Squire SS65 locks used on both the Almax and the "English" have a tiny bit of cosmetic surface corrosion, the Oxford Boss alarm lock used on the Oxford chain had just enough corrosion inside to make it difficult to withdraw the battery holder, I had to push it out using a pick in the shackle hole.
Worth noting the only thing on the bike that's rotted at a similar rate is the the bolts in the cheap chinese bar-ends.
That's weird cos mine have been outside for about 5 years without a problem.
My best so far.
1. Allen bolt and its nut. It's small, almost invisible at first glance. Slip into disc brake hole. And l drop my bike.
2. Remove ignition fuse. I'm sweating because l forgot to put it back.
3. Keyless, immobilizer, alarm. Yea... It's expensive, but it give time.
4. Have unpopular bike, lower chances to get stolen.
5. In garage, put bike between wall and car. So there no way bike moved. Need move the car first.
I really think the clipped on bike cover is the real deterrent. The Scummers might know the type of bike but can't really come properly prepared because the bike might have 3 or 4 layers of security underneath. And lets face it they are fundamentally lazy bstds.
They steal the cover first. Watch for that.
A little bit simplistic but when my girl is in the garage I park my car right up against the door. In order to get to her they'd have to move my car first which is an automatic so left in gear with an electronic parking brake. Personally I'd like to hide a hand grenade under the seat since I'm unlikely to get her back anyway might as well take something of theirs in return eh? But my other girl (my long suffering wife) says that's a bit extreme 🤔
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Jeez! 😂
AK 47 never fails
I think the most important point you touched on was the idea of putting the lowlives off of an attempt on your bike in the first place. A premeditated and planned theft will succeed 99% of the time, but make it as unattractive and griefy as possible and they’ll pick another bike that’s easier... thieves are lazy...
So I use two Oxford XL chains, one round the front wheel and forks, the other round the back wheel and through the frame, each attached to a ground anchor, and bike is covered - I think covering a bike has a huge positive effect - if they can’t see it, they will pick one that stands out over it... again thieves are lazy, that’s why they are thieves!
Front chain attached to disc/padlock also.
It’s hassle when I go out, but if it’s annoying for me, it must be hassle for lowlives as well!
I'd add to this and say that I use my old knackered cover over the top of a much nicer one, extra layer of water resistance but also its looks shite! Nobody is going to expect anything decent being under there
Locking the cover on is an easy extra deterrent too and if your chain isn't positioned to secure your cover you can use a bicycle style cable lock extension to secure the cover.
Chain suggestions
For home use
Make sure the chain is 16mm+
Almax
Pragmasis
Oxford beast
Squire
ABUS
Milenco
And for taking out with you make sure the chain is 12mm+
ABUS Granit Extreme X-plus 59
Milenco Coleraine
ABUS Granit 58 loop lock-chain
ABUS Platinum chain 34
recommended.
I had my scooter eyed up and touched out the back of my house.
Only knew this, as I have a blink camera on my washing line pole facing the bike lol
if I didn't have that my scooter would probably have been stolen.
After seeing the footage I posted to the towns Facebook group and contacted the police and they identified the person in the footage.
I have since put a big fence up now.
Amazon Blink cameras are amazing :)
I don’t lock mine and leave the keys in the ignition, I live in a Avenue with no way through, I sleep above the garage and my ex military Alsatian sleeps next to my bike, savage will alert me if some one enters the top of the Avenue 100 yards away with 4 barks , if they come closer the bark will become more frequent, if they come closer it turn to snarling and ramming the door to get to them, I can open my door remotely from my bed, after I have identified who it is from my cctv.👊👍
You’ve got to love an intelligent security system. Nice one.
I would bring a bag of raw meat and toss it to your dog then ride away on your bike 5 seconds later.
I bought an Asgard shed, which yes are rather expensive but are well worth it. I then bought 2 Abus Granit London U shackles which I put 1 on each wheel and then I bought a kryptonite New York 13 mm chain with a Squire stronghold padlock and to top it off I bought an Oxford 10mm chain with Master lock Pro series Bouron shackle. Oh yes 😆 I also bought an alarm for the shed and one for the bike, fitted CCTV and have a 10 stone Saint Bernard who sleep right next to the door and lets you know the moment anybody goes near the side gate. The joys of OCD.
Also for the: It wont happen to me, I live in a safe neighbourhood crowd. There was a Honda SP2 stolen recently in a sleepy village in the middle of nowhere near where I live. The village had barely 100 people maximum, and the only way you'd know its there is if you are driving through and saw it. Yours might be a safe neighbourhood, but thieves have vans to travel there.
Never be complacent about this kind of thing for sure.
@@alexmorgan3435 I'm always aware of people following and forgot to mention it here.
Spot on Russ, very well advised. As an ex police officer you've explained this all perfectly! Some good info on the testing of so called secure devices. Much appreciated once again!
Praise indeed, thanks for the feedback. ☺
Best alarm system; gravel and gooses near your bike shed :)
@@alexmorgan3435 brush off tyres? Lol
Covers are very underrated, if you could get one preferably all black with the holes near the wheels so a cable lock or chain can fit through it’s a good start.
I want to keep my bike electrified until I switch it off😅
That bike that was locked and lifted into the van would have been much more difficult for the two people if the rear wheel had a lockl too.
I've always carried a padlock instead of a disc lock, for my 'convenient to carry' deterrent. Basically because you can get a padlock with a hexagonal shackle, so you'd have to cut it twice to get it off. Twice the time, twice the hassle. Can also easily be used with a chain and/or put through the disc or sprocket...
Whether it's a motorbike or a bicycle you need a security system and not just a security lock. There are now also u-locks available that are angle grinder resistant so for my e-bike I'm using a Litelok X3 which is on pre-order for next month + I also use two motion alarmed disc locks which sound off a warning before they go off fully as well as a Samsung Galaxy smart tag.
Keep it out of sight, cover on the bike, locked with chain to a solid object and disc lock. Got tracking as well which is cool but I like to think I’m keeping it semi safe... like you said, if they really want it- they will find a way of stealing it.
I agree about the cover, being locked with a chain to a solid object and the disc lock, however I would rather have it somewhere were there are lots of people about. Keeping it out of sight only means that a thief will be able to get to work stealing your bike pretty much undisturbed.
@@Seagull-Matthames out of sight like not out in the sunshine and in clear view. a main road but you park it behind a car, on a busy high street but keeping it covered, or in a car park with cctv rather than an alley way behind Morrison’s.
If its inconvenient for you then it will be more inconvenient for the thief dont just put one lock on it use a few with different brands even if it takes you 10mins getting it all off if someones going to steal your stuff then make them work very hard for it either they will give up half way or somebody's going to notice cutting through locks and chains makes alot of sound specially multiple locks added alarms as well.
The only disc lock I've not seen London bike thieves get past is the Xena XX series. They're alarmed disc locks and can be fitted either between the fork and brake calliper meaning they cannot get at the disc to cut it (I've seen Xena's removed in this way) or I put mine on the rear disc between the calliper and swingarm. Defo recommend giving them a look although mines the slightly older model without bluetooth but that hasn't been an issue.
Thanks for sharing these tips. I used to rely on blocking the bike in with the car (cage) but in a spate of thefts at the time the vermin were cutting brake cables and moving cars to remove people's pride joy and Transport. Frustrates me that we have to do so much but as said, let's not make it easy for the scumbags
Hi Shane…it really makes you think that a Star Chamber might be the only deterrent….very low re offending….seriously though it’s such an awful thing….
You don't need the best lock. Just a better lock than the guy next to you, or a better than average lock. Best is a mix of stuff to slow them down. When parked, by bike is in a parking garage below the building where I live. I know that parking a bike inside is deemed to be safer, but I think the contrary is true. When it's inside, thieves can work undisturbed as opposed to outside. When my alarm goes off in a garage, nobody can tell where it's coming from. Apart from a couple of locks (I have a heavy chain and an anchor in the wall, and a disc lock), a motorcycle cover is also a good idea. Thieves hate those things, because when there's an alarm, they can't see it directly and they also don't know what they will find under the cover. So they can't really plan anything.
When I'm on the road, I just use the disc lock, the BMW alarm and steering lock. Obviously all of that can be broken, but I've fulfilled the demands of the insurance. Both the disc lock and the alarm are approved by the insurance. And I also have good protection against thieves that operate out of vans where they lift your bike in the van and work on the locks eleswhere: my bike weighs 340kg... 🤣🤣🤣
Good advice, thanks. As you suggest yourself, I was advised very early on that what you're basically aiming to do is cause them hassle, and consider that another target might be a better option (for them). I use chains myself - but knowing that they can all be potentially cut by someone tooled up and determined, I make sure that there isn't a convenient slack loop that they can (easily) get the bolt-croppers (or power tool) to. Or at least, that's what I hope and think I'm doing!
Additional tip. Just nipping in the shop for a minute? Then that's about 10 seconds more than the time they need to bundle it into a van. I've also seen video of people lifting up and removing chained/disc-locked/shackled bikes with a small lorry plus crane (like builders use to get bricks and bags of sand delivered) - think about that when you leave yours, and maybe slot into between a couple of cars, behind a lamp-post - use whatever cover and inconvenience you can. Thanks for the tips and info, Russ.
Any extra info is very welcome. Thanks.
You forgot the most important,an Insurance company that will pay out with the smallest amount of excess so Your getting most of the value of the bike back from them.
12 gauge shotgun on a rotating system with a sensor lol and a moat full of crocodiles lol. You forgot them lol. I have a few things on my Michigan. I think the more items you put on is better than nothing. Like you said make it hard for them. 🙂
Im glad you said how poor the brake lever lock is, even easier is undo the bleed nipple, releases the pressure on the pads, literally 1 second and that device is null and void, but what really gets my goat up is so many reviewers who say how great that product is just because they got sent one and its a paid review, some people would literally sell their soul for a few views
Yep, there's a few big subscriber vloggers who I've unsubbed from for this reason. Clapping like seals because they have a freebie.
Great video Russ, with plenty of practical advice. If it has spark plugs (and in a addition to locks), just lift the plug caps and put a small, none conductive piece of wood between the the plug cap and the plug. Most thieves are pond life and will never figure it out. A gravel driveway is cheap and noisy.
Of course, this only works if you have quick acces to the plugs
I don't feel like propping up the tank and removing the airbox to 'unsabotage' my sparkplugs every morning before I (can) go to work
@@Nightdare lol!!!
Tracker wise, automatricks M-track is a good option. Similar price to the smaller ones but with a massive battery and RF finding capabilities.
You pay a monthly fee (15 quid) but they go and recover the bike for you, phone the police and everything. The best option I've found by far when it comes to trackers.
Otherwise agree with the entire video.
Almax chains and Squire locks. Keep them off the ground and use a cover if you can. Not much else you can do.
Oh actually, bicycle alarms ! Hide them under the front of the bike and if anybody moves the bike it will beep, super cheap and quite effective !
Thanks for the info. The more the merrier. Sounds like a good service.
@@RoadcraftNottingham They have a youtube channel showing their whole operation. Sold me. ua-cam.com/channels/WRXwGwCL8VqRaDSqmCnxaw.html
Check out the monimoto device - if you move the bike without the bluetooth dongle being nearby then it alerts you via text/mobile app. It also allows you to track the bike and battery life is probably fine for 12 months.
Battery defo last 12 months mine has
One thing I don't see mentioned here which I've used for a long time and which is dirt cheap, is a baby monitor. Last attempt at getting into my garage the thieves had woken me up poking about before they'd even started.
Good call.
Don't forget the baseball bat accessory.
Bloody scummers. Mates in the US are shocked at how bad it is here for theft. All the police do is hand out crime numbers like it’s a sort of attendance voucher.
AK 47
Get Mr browning to help aswell
The best research is probably to just send the lock to the Lockpicking Lawyer. If it takes him half the time to pick it than to talk about it, it's already doing well.
Been watching that guy. He's amazing! Fortunately for us, most, if not all of our knuckle draggers wouldn't have a clue. ☺
Of course, I always put my steering lock on. But, if I was another person, I would keep my bike locked up in my garage with a massive lock (and tracker), and just leave the steering lock off so that when that person who is not me's bike was to be found, there would be - hopefully - less damage to repair. But of course, always keep the lock on when parked up on the street.
I use the Abus 8077, I watched a video of someone angle grinding one off and it took them about 5 minutes - with a plugged in angle grinder, so that gave me confidence. I also use Automatrics tracker, it's a self contained unit that lasts 18 months on one charge, and it has GPS, GSM and RF tracking with it, so if it's in a metal box or something the chaps come out to the last location of the GPS and then track it themselves with a RF scanner. They have a youtube channel and the dedication to getting customer's stuff back is admirable, they go all over the country, cross the channel even, and stake out waiting for police for as long as it takes. Unbelievable service, the bonus is they are based very close to where I live so I would imagine they would be on scene very quickly if my bike were to be stolen. Personally, I do not put any stickers on my bike saying it's being tracked; I'd rather they didn't go looking for the unit, but if they did it is rather well hidden - and has a tamper plate that sends out a special alert. I have felt a lot more at ease since having that tracker!
Great info, thanks.
All of this is still relevant and useful information 2 years later.
Thanks for watching. ☺
thanks very much great video
Hey Ian. How are you getting on with your u-turns now
I will often leave a tenner on my bike to bribe the thieves away from it
Teenagers fingers being firmly removed with an axe, I've found this a sound solution. Love from Scotland...
I have pretty aggressive thoughts like that too and wouldn't feel sorry for them. ☺
Could we take their man parts off too to decrease the population of thieving scum in the future (asking for all my biking friends)
Drugging and r&ping them.....too much? 😅😄😃🤣😎
I fitted a theatrical sound grenade on a trip wire in my garage. But after setting it of accidentally I went back to a battery powered alarm. Three years later my hearing is almost back to normal.
On the upside it killed every spider in the place.
You can buy alarm mines that use blank 12g or .22 cartridges.
Only addition i would make is pick resistance. A lot of locks may look beefy but have easily or moderately easily bypassable cores. I like lockpickinglawyer for illuminating that aspect.
Lockpicking lawyer is awesome
I use Almax, really good thick chains
I didn't know that bikes can be stolen easily....now i know....good info, thanks.
You're welcome.
Great advice as always. Bike security is all about layers. Just make it more hassle for them.
Exactly. ☺
Made me laugh when you said ask me how I know about forgetting to remove the disc lock 😂😂 I had an embarrassing incident in Asda carpark on a Honda Silverwing....it only happened the once 😂😂
Exactly the same as me... We only do it once 😂
I was actually in morrison's and in a mood and went over handle bars.
I use a sold secure gold Oxford disc lock (no alarm) because that's what I said I was using on my insurance. I also have the luxury of keeping the bike in the garage with an electric door with no external handle.
Trying to drive off with the disc lock still in eh? Shame on you, that most certainly couldn't have been me at any point in time, no sir, not at all... :) thanks for the vid!
It's almost compulsory for becoming a biker 😂
i dont even use a steering lock its pointless and its expensive tofix
I was kind of trying to say thay without getting into trouble 😂
I doubt there are many bike thieves carrying 3 foot bolt cutters in their pockets! It appears there are a lot of bike thieves in the UK. We don’t have near that many in the US where I live!
I have a goldwing. It's going no where. I'm really not bothered for too much additional security.
Why isn't it going anywhere
Ive tried to get a Almax chain a few times. Mailed them about shipping 2 or 3 times at this stage but never hear anything back. I do think they are the best chain out there, but their customer service is poor.
My last road trip was on a Harley 2018 Fat Bob FXFBS. I never worried about it getting stolen it never did get stolen and I never used alarms or tracking devices. I now own a triumph tiger 900 GT pro and I'm going to take it on a West Coast trip. For some reason I'm more concerned about this motorcycle so I put a tracker on it and I'll be using two disc brake lock one on the front and rear.
I only started riding 2 years ago and was given the advice that you can't prevent bike thieves, only delay them and inconvenience them, so layer up on security.
At home, my bike is out in the front garden, so I use a ground anchor, Abus granite chain, Abus granite U-lock, the same disc alarm as in your video, noise disabled unfortunately, too sensitive and cover it with a stormX cover. I also have motion sensor lights. If someone were to nick my bike, they'd bloody deserve it!
When out & about I carry the U-lock & chain.
I don’t use my steering lock ! The chances are it’s something I will have to repair after some scab has tried taking my bike.
Also, have you noticed that bike covers don’t fit right when the steering is turned to one side ?
My main security is a heavy chain & a mini D lock. The chain is long enough to go around a solid object & the mini D lock is just the right size to go through the brake disk making it very hard to remove from the bike without causing a lot of damage. The chain obviously goes through the wheel as well meaning many cuts would be needed to remove the combination. I also have an alarmed disk lock with a reminder cord.
At home on the driveway I have a chain anchor point.
Great video. I find an Alarm Disc Lock and Handlebar Lock to be imo the perfect combination for lightweight security when going to shops and most people(where I’m from) tend to only use fork lock so you’ll be at a better chance of being safe than most. If I’m going to be somewhere a bit longer I take a chain too personally
I own a Honda Forza 750 and if they break the steering lock then an eight grand bike is a write off so I don't bother using it.
The age of the video is irrelevant and since you asked how they got the shackle lock off your bike, they picked the lock. I've seen countless videos about bike security (that's why I'm here), and you guys need to know that anything that uses a key can be opened in about 3-5 seconds. It does not matter who makes the lock, it only matters if they guy stealing your bike knows how and has the tool(s) in his pocket.
It takes only minutes to learn, costs about $100 and you can pick any key lock on the planet nearly as fast as you can with a key and no one will know you are doing it. These locks are deterrents for most people, I agree with that, but time and opportunity is usually what everyone else relies on. But a picker will have your lock off, engine started and rolling away in 20 seconds.
Why can't we lock the brake(line)s? Like premium cars do. Why don't motorcycle builders use real and effective steeringlocks? Instead of the locks from noodles they use now. Discbrake locks are removed by cutting the brakedisc left and right from the lock. So you don't need 5 star rated discjockey as they are useless. As long as the removed part is smaller then the brakepad they can still use the brakes while being pushed foreward by another motorcycle during getting off.
Great video, what trackers do you recommend?
05:04 ...This isn't the big Oxford monster and you know that . This isn't the black one .
14 seconds for the Oxford Monster? Jesus Christ... I was hoping it would be at least 2 minutes....
My most recent theft (3rd in 3 years) bike had an alarmed disc lock which they silenced when lifting the bike as I was sleeping only a few metres away. How did they do that?
I got lucky a theif broke into my garage ripping the door off smashing my disc alarm with ease but the fools couldn't get through my oxford chain and anchor! I got pretty lucky but out of spite they smashed my headlamp off and cut all my wires
my bike ktm 390 duke stolen week a go front of people its have abus disc lock , but there cut the disk and left the lock , i got alram in bike alarm in disk lock
there is no way to stop thieves. in the corner situation one can approach you with the gun and you will give him the key
probably the only way to get the money back is insurance
The best bike security video on UA-cam by far
I park my electric scooter with 2 disc locks with alarms one in front wheel and one in back wheel 120 decibels 2x 2 would be so noisy....and one chain lock to a pole and nfc with gps tracker.....last but not least i cover it with motorcycle cover so it would not attract attention to thieves. and lastly where i work has a cctv pointing to it. yeah i agree with you even small cheap locks at least its a good deterant to thieves...even thou they can still go thru it but at least it buys u time to call a police and get to them them.
that nicely summed everything up!
I fully agree with your comment on the steering lock, its unbelievable how weak security such a thing provides and how much damage it causes (in cash) when you try to repair it afterwards - if you are lucky and you dont lose your pride and joy all together.
Also, the existence of CCTV by itself is no deterrent, lowlifes dont care. Unfortunately, in some cases cameras provide a fake feeling of security to the owner (ask me how i know) .. Just saying..
I use Pragmasis ground anchor, chain and lock. In my opinion they are the best. They can be found at securityforbikes.com
I use 99% of what you covered at once ever since my first bike (ZX6R) got stolen. The only thing I don't use is chaining it to an immovable object. Although I am thinking about linking it through the bumper of my car where they have little tow hook. So at least at home it'll be anchored to something.
I used 2 10mm chains, 1 brake lock and 1 disc lock every time. I have always said you have yo make it harder for them to brake everything. On a lighter note that yellow disc lock reminder did not help me lol got a video up on it too lol
Feel free to post the link here lol
@@RoadcraftNottingham thank you.. link.. ua-cam.com/video/zWNnXqw52-U/v-deo.html
@@RoadcraftNottingham now everyone can have a good old laugh at me too lol
@@whoamiuk1 You're just a member of the club.... But not noticing the reminder cable? That makes you head dropper! 😂
i think the best anti thieft method is holding a gun next to your bike . shoot and win the lawsuit with global social media supporting ur case.
Hi Russ interesting video you have put up never seen how easy it is to break the steering lock,
These type of people that seem to believe that they have the right to take what does not belong to them,
Can one obtain a steel wire that is not very easy to cut with bolt cutters or grinder,
Kind regards,
Steph
I think anything less than 19mm is pretty croppable
What about using AirTags, as a bike tracker?
it's not the bike manufacturers but the insurance companies who should dictate minimum specs for new bike security for such things as steering locks and immobilisers or say they will not insure them. At home I have a rock anchor for ground security, tracker and Smartwater protection also cctv covers its home position.
Sounds like mine. ☺
I liked the idea of ensuring the chain doesn't drag on the ground thus enabling easy bolt-cutter action. That could easily make the difference between success and failure. I can't imagine how the perps would manage with the chain in the air.
If they move the bike away from what it’s locked to, causing the chain to have a tight strain in the air, it’s basically the same as being on the floor unfortunately
Never rely on one lock or one chain, no matter how good or expensive they are...
Because it won’t take more then a minute to grind one lock off or a chain...
I use 4 locks on mine when leaving it outside somewhere, and chained to something you cannot move if leaving it for long. Two locks are alarmed and the other two are normal. Front wheel two locks, one alarmed, rear sprocket lock, and a rear wheel with alarmed lock... Maybe sounds like an overkill, but I would rather always comeback to my bike and ride away, then discover a broken lock or a chain on the floor instead of the bike that I worked hard for.... A tank bag is big enough for 4 locks and it takes less then a minute to put them all on and take them off...
Make it a real pain in in the ass for the bastards , and they probably won’t even bother... If they cannot take it fast, they will probably avoid... Grinding off 4 locks will take some time, make lots of noise and attract attention ...
So the main thing is not to be lazy to lock it properly, and don’t care about other people’s opinion when it comes to security of your bike ... :) If you working at the same place all the time, you can bring your big heavy chain once and leave it at work somewhere hidden... don’t have to carry it home back and forth all the time...
Spot on advice, thanks.
I leave my almax immobiliser 5 chained to a lamppost opposite my work place - cheap small d-lock at front so I don’t forget it’s locked upfront, Abloy padlock and another d-lock on the front disc. Got news from a doorman tonight that three cunts were eying up my bike, lifting the chain etc, so I purchased an Abus Granit Detecto disc lock and a Kovix brake-lever lock when I got home. The bullshit you have to go through owning a bike in London
I agree Russ, a ‘layered’ approach to security is the best way to make the scumbags move onto another target. The Litelock would seem to be a solution for heavy/ bulky chains, however, I’ve only seen sponsored reviews. Have you (or any of your subscribers who might read this) any real experience of this product?
I've seen the lite lock hacked through in 16 seconds. That's what's made me do this upload. You tubers saying it's great when they're given one free
ua-cam.com/video/D-On0DGcDlc/v-deo.html
Leave in gear and take gear shifter with you.
Fit your disc lock to the back wheel, I know it's a lot harder work to fit and remove but you try dragging a big bike on it's front wheel. Also there is a round body & pin rotating disc lock that is almost impossible to cut with a disc grinder as it rotates easily and is very hard to hold due to it's shape, it's a big name brand so I won't mention it.
If it's recommended, please let us know what it is
Please do mention.
@@alexmorgan3435 Fair comment, didn't want to invite promotional critics, also I couldn't remember at the time. It's the ABUS Granit Victory XPlus 68 long name for what is quite a compact lock.
@@RoadcraftNottingham Abus do a version like this, I think Oxford have a Patriot branded version and Pragamsis at securityforbikes have their own version called the RoundLock.
Thanks, you're a gent.
Had my bike stolen beginning of the year. It was recovered not far from me. Had I not put the steering lock on. I would’ve just got my bike back and rode off. But due to the damage I couldn’t start it cost £400 to fix. I never Leave my steering lock on ever.
Exactly, but if anyone asks 😉
@@RoadcraftNottingham 😉
I wouldn't trust any theif who wears double denim.......🤣
Great commentary on security, I even use strong cable locks on my soft luggage when touring to be extra safe 👍
How does that stop the bags being slashed and the contents stolen?
@@samsara3694 slows the thieves down... however the best advice would be never to leave your bike unattended or out of sight while loaded 👍
I use abus granit detecto x plus 8077 + abus 12ks chain. Im very happy with it. But it’s very heavy)
I've had two of the granit ones. The first one held for about a a year and a half before it literally fell apart while I was unlocking it. Thought I was just unlucky and got another one. After a few months it started acting up. Alarm goes off even if completely still. Now I use that one without batteries :(
@@Hedbrant2 Mine is 3 years old and it's 4 out of 5 condition. Maybe it depends on where you use it (rain, dust, snow, mud etc.)
@@Hedbrant2 Have a look at sledge 77. It has no alarm and more robust.
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just brought my first bike
Some newer motorcycles automatically lock when you turn the engine off so you dont really have a choice wether to use it or not
Interesting. Which models?
I Like This Video..I had My Scooter Stolen Some Time Ago..And I Got it Back..Now I Have An Alarm Disk Break Lock For The Front Wheel And and A Back Wheel Lock
So, just to sum up! I need 10 locks, a garage, German Shepard, st Bernard, loaded shot gun and explosives! Bit expensive! Maybe a few zip ties will do! 😅😄😃🤣
Zip ties will confuse people around here. ☺
@@RoadcraftNottingham sorry, a plastic length that secures into itself via a zip function! May need a sturdy pair of scissors! Ps totally useless 😅😄😃🤣
Dude, you could easily get another bike in that garage. =D
😂 I keep saying that! 😂
How long to actually cut the disk it self and could you ride or wheel it away ?
It still comes down to how much noise it's making and is there an easier bike to steal near it.
i had a small 8quid disc lock from ebay on my sv650s rear wheel. went to pull away after chatting to old guy about our bikes, forot it was on there, PING! felt something was wrong. disc lock pin shattered. sv fine. useless ''lock''. ive got an 8 wk old kitten on my neck- please help.
Any device or bracking system that locks the brakes in brake locked position like hand brake when ignition off and oem key removed then bike wheels can't spin until bike turn on or braking system cut off or removed. Its some difficult to ride a bike without brake for thieves they are in hurry and end up in accident. It doesn't help when the bike carried by van but it will help most of the time. Hidden fuel pump cut off switch or only be working with nfc then if the rider away from bike fuel pump stop working so the bike can't be bikejacked.
I use a disc lock alarm like the first one shown, a big motorbike chain and bolts secured with nuts in the calipers and its also covered in a plain black cover in my back garden I've also got a big dog and a katana in my house. Think my dirt bike should be okay hopefully.
As I said, nothing is guaranteed but that'll put most of them off. Nice one!
That's what im hoping for make it too hard and too much of an effort.
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Μpravo Mpravo cogratsilation
Ive just brought a TC Max Electric motorbike, i can take the battery out and leave it indoors, the battery is £1500 new, so makes the bike worthless and not worth stealing, i do still use my disc locks and bike cover though, but make your bike not worth stealing in the first place is just another deterrent.
My method for "not-forgetting-to-remove-your-bloody-disk-lock". I have a piece of velcro that goes across the keyhole of the disc lock. When I place the disc lock the piece of velcro moves from covering the keyhole on the lock to the ignition key hole of the bike. So when I want to ride away I can't insert the bike key without removing the strip of velcro that goes back to living on the disc lock when not in use.
That bloke won't be throwing them moves with the bold croppers If the chain was attached to a bike locked to a ground anchor right up next to a corner of a wall. You need room to crop chains.
Was impressed lately with Hiplock took 3 grinder disks before it gave,vid was done by Bennets
2 Dobermans that live in the garage with my bike adds to the other security features incorporated.