I thought eren is really dead but after seeing your video I believe there is a fifty fifty chances for eren come back And think about this if eren revives Mikasa,armin and all of his friends to see world after their deaths they will understand finally why eren wants to eradicate all life forms behind the wall think about it🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧
@@funnyopytHow tf would he revive them? this aint magic anime, they need to be injected with the titan fluid then they need to eat the titan WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE
@@Edvoid99 you are right this ain't a magic anime but can you explain how zeke , armin come back from dead can you explain and before you explain I have a theory that if eren takes ymirs place in the paths he can create them in there eventually think about this 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I can't even lie. Before this I was searching exactly for "After Eren dies does he become the next founder of titans?" Than you for confirming my suspicions ❤❤
Part of me wants the story to continue on because it’s such a amazing story but it’s because it’s such a good story that I think it should also just be put to rest, whatever happens next with that little boy should be left to our imaginations.
@@bumperjumper if they do decide to continue the story then I think it will be about that little boy gaining titan powers and trying to descover what they are and find out the truth just as eren and the rest of the scout’s did while trying to get to the basement, since the cycle repeats itself i think if done right, it could be a interesting story but instead of king fritz and Ymir being the main past it’s eren and his generation teaching the boy all about titans, and maybe through erens memories the cycle can finally end.
@@JDINKThat's a good idea, like a third great arc instead of a spinoff (first would be the first to their seasons, and second all the fourth season) the first season of this new marcoarch being the scout slowlyconevting to the past through memories while also fighting a much more human antagonist, and by the end of the season finally leearning most of the truth, with holes there and here that keep him from omniscience. The rest would be him fighting with Eren's ideas and destructive desires in an internal level while also having the plot propel by the external antagonist. Still, PLEASE DONT
@@JDINKits a bad idea. No more mystery or intrigue just fan service. This show is iconic. Let it end as all great things do. The Author can create another great story if he’s up to it. But if he follows the money and nostalgia baits you and many others you’ll get what you want.
My theory is that wherever someone who had obtained the power of the founder is buried, a new hallucigenia is born. That doesn't necessarily mean that new hallucigenia is Eren's reincarnation. I believe Eren is permanently dead and that kid at the end of the show will become the new Ymir.
I like this a lot. But the fact that it happens over his burial site tells me there’s some sort of link there. Also, the symbolism of a phoenix transforming into a tree in the s4 pt1 outro makes me think Eren is still struggling somewhere
I want it to end. It's a beautiful ending.Considering the wars that are happening right now, it's a middle finger to what the actions of our leaders are leading us to.
Yeah you're right but it would great to have a sequal or just one final movie showing what happened between mikasa and armin and the others from after eren died to them getting old
As much as I want more of this amazing anime, I believe that sometimes, writers prefer to end with a little something for the readers to wonder about and make their own stories instead of giving them a non-questionable ending...It doesn't mean always that there will be a continuation...I do it in my books giving either hope or something to grab onto...
I had a theory that this "Ymir's" centipide is basically "life will" itself, most likely this tree is supposed to symbolize the Yiggdrasil, 9 worlds, 9 titans etc... So the thing is, this centipide came to Ymir when she was dying and wanted to live, but it's also interesting that Ymir became slave to Fritz, I think she became slave to children / main goal of life - to reproduce. That's why she is slave in Paths dimension. But when Ymir is kind, liked living things, in flashbacks she said basically "you need to live that everyone likes you and help others", Eren is about freedom, freedom imo is also one of the main goals of life, so I think if he still alive he is not a slave like Ymir, but maybe more like a slave to freedom, so my thought is, if it supposed to represent Yiggdrasil, what if the The "Ymir" tree supposed to be "Asgard tree" like gods literally gave Ymir powers (it also might be the Midgard tree), but the Eren tree supposed to be Alfheim tree. So if Asgard tree spawned when there is wiil to live, Alfheim tree is spawned when there is will to freedom. It sounds like a complete nonsense (especially because English is not my native language) but it kinda holds... Well first of all, Eren has green eyes, sometimes ltblue, Elfs are often portrayed with either green or ltblue eyes, elf ears in titan form, and he is pretty tall looking titan. We know for a fact that some of the titan stuff is based on Scandinavian mythology. After rereading, looks like a lot of overthinking nonsense tbh.
Honestly yeah I could honestly see this being something because I also looked into Ymir and realized the founding titan is supposed to be the first giant. Aswell as the symbolism between the coordinate and the tree that connects all eldians to be like that of the trees in mythology. But idk it’s possible but I don’t think that isayama would think this deep into it and maybe only used it for reference and inspiration because poking at how rushed the story is, I don’t think he would think about something like this.
@@jezzerdubon7714 Yeah, for sure it might be just an inspiration, but including how "symbolism-heavy" and filled with history/myth references AOT is, it also might be planned out thing. Hope some day he will make an expansion to a story and world overall. But IMO him not explaining all this stuff was a planned decision, it makes people theorise about all this stuff which attracts even more people. P.S. : Holy Sh#t, AOT ending was 7 months ago and I didn't even realise, it feels like it was a month ago.
@@vandanathapliyal7754 Yeah I think, I have an OK English, but when explaining and theorising stuff, I might use incorrect order, punctuation in scentences n'stuff, because my native language (Russian) is not as "order-heavy" as English.
I think yamir watching mikasa "do the right thing" and kill eren, allowed her to free herself from her self enslavement to the king. Since she couldn't help but love him, so she obeyed him.. but Mikasa showed her that she can escape that
But if that’s the case, how did that revert time allowing Ymir to let the spear hit king Fritz? Wouldn’t that change everything we’ve seen in the anime?
@@erenjeager5290 It changed time??? The point is it gives her the release from her 1000's of years of self enslavement, because she loved the king and didn't even think about going against him. Mikasa showed her that even with such feelings you can still do the right thing and not just be a slave to your love. Which in theory allows the titan powers to die because she's no longer enslaved in the other world making the bodies.
@@erenjeager5290By killing the person she loved most, Mikasa showed Ymir that it was possible to escape her imprisonment and finally become free from her devotion. In doing so, Mikasa effectively changed the past because now Ymir is not enslaved to King Fritz and no longer needs to create titans for him. This is how the titans cease to exist after Eren's death. Ymir would live a long life and eventually die without passing her titans down and so the titans never exist against. So in a sense, the events of the past would be completely rewritten by the events of the future.
@@jaipandey7142true im just hoping that the "final chapters" were just there to satisfy brain dead npcs who dont care about the story and the Show goes on from s4e28
When Mikasa chopped off his head, i'm a 1000% sure he was already gone/rendered powerless and Ymir was just using his vessel/founding powers to do the Rumbling. When he opened his eyes (atleast to me) it seemed he was grateful he was being put out of the misery both for not being able to stop what was going on but also to stop his 'hurting' .. I felt like he was controlled ever since Gabi shot off his head and even though he stood behind the choice of starting the rumbling, i feel he wasn't the one in charge for most of it. I'm conflicted though.. the ending scene could mean 2 things, 1 it is an endless cycle that will keep happening as "this is a life lesson to us all IRL" or 2 there will actually be a sequel and this was the intro
No I think eren was still in control, but you're right about him wanting her to end it. And no, there won't be a sequel. Like you said, it's meant to show that it's a cycle that is doomed to repeat itself.
@@matthewbrantner798 exactly, there may be no need for us to go through the same cycle again. Unless the supposed next sequel gets to show that freedom was later achieved. Something like that
@@thequarter2 I haven't read the bible fully. I read the full book of genesis and parts of the new testament but I know a lot of the writers inspirations come from biblical stuff. I dont know what happened with the Nephilim but I would appreciate it if you told me about it.
even if attack on titan got a new story or same story with some same characters, it cant hit this much this is the maximum. it will never get as epic as this but i would really like to see the story continue. i might write my own story about what happens after that boy and the dog approaches the tree
In my latest video “The Untold Truth About Eren’s Death” I breakdown every possible scenario for the next installment of aot, there are 7 possibilities I was able to come up with. It would be fuel for you writing what comes next
It's Isayama we're talking about here. I've rewatched AOT so many times and I always find something new that shocks me, He can make another masterpiece if he wants lol.
I would actually love to see this. Considering that Eren admits himself that he has been going crazy because all time exists in up his head all at once, so I imagine after 2000 years he would be totally insane. That would be really cool to see in my opinion. As well as that, I feel like maybe he could be the next hallucinogenia because he was buried in that tree and the next person would at some time fall in and become the next founding Titan, completing Eren’s will.
since it's all a cycle that repeats itself I'm wondering who Became a Titan before Ymir, what she or he looked like, maybe they had a civilization that was better than ours and it got destroyed and years later we see Ymir running inside that tree where a Titan was buried years ago. my brain hurts.
my take on the end is that some of the founder's power remained with eren at his grave, then developed the tree again. fate dictates that the cycle repeats over and over again, that the struggle for freedom will continue endlessly (as said in the ending song lyrics) however it's unlikely that the titans would come back in their previous form, as look at the boy compared to ymir. while the boy is venturing here seemingly out of his free will and free of danger, ymir was desperately running away, injured, trying to survive. as zeke says, the paths and the titans were born out of ymir's will to survive, so she escaped to it after death. most likely out of the boy something better will come to be, something unlike the titans, showing there is still hope for humanity to escape the cycle after all this and no eren won't come back to life nor will the series continue, i'd rather it not pull a "somehow eren returned" thing
What if the boy is the last of human kind and wishes for more humans or a companion with powers who passed it down to their children. Or something along those lines 😅
@@bumperjumperhe didn’t, he’s an extremely traumatized boy in a world of literal monsters. He can see the present, future and past all at once and he can’t change anything about it. I believe that future is also shaped into what it is cause of what he wants deep down (protect his friends and loved ones) but he ofc doesn’t want to kill 80% of humanity so he’s unknowingly manipulating himself at the same time as manipulating everything else into a selffullfilling proficy. For years he has suffered a hellish life, he suffered more then anyone else. Im not justifying his actions with his suffering btw. But lets say he didn’t go for it, he went to the cabin and lived in peace with Mikasa till he died. Then Marley would attack paradis anyway cause they’re scared of the rumbling. They’d kill everyone and take the founding titan. Marley already was in multiple wars before this. What do you think they’d do with the founding titan? They’d become the new king Fritz, hated by the rest of the world and turned into a new paradis after years of horrible war. Eren created a moment of peace in history for the ones he cared about and the ones who will repopulate the earth so they can live in peace before the next war.
So if u guys are big Aot fans you probably know Isayama’s biggest inspiration for Aot was a visual novel called Muv-Luv and it’s kinda crazy how many similarities the 2 series have Muv-Luv actually has multiple endings witch was one of the big calluses for the AOE theory’s (anime original ending) and basically Muv-Luv original ending is very similar to the ending of Aot but 3 years later they released Muv-Luv alternate and the alternative/ real ending was very similar to the ANR ( Akatsuki no Requiem) theory’s for how Aot was “supposed” to end according to the linked horizon music video that is supposed to symbolically foreshadow the ending of Attack on Titan. Basically my point is don’t be surprised if in 2026 something called Attack on Titan Alternate comes out.
Yeah it’s almost absurd the amount of influence attack on Titan took from muv luv alternative; getting an addition to the series in the spirit of muv luv would not surprise me at all!
Could it be that Eren took all 9 shifter for himself like Ymir, I believe we will get sequel but it will be totally different Name and Characters but hopefully we get to see Eren
I was thinking they would start fresh with new characters and a new story all set in the same universe. Getting to see Eren again would be really cool!
I think I felt more emotional when Mikasa died and the progress of AoT world into modern and futuristic warfare. The aftermath of nuclear war made me want to see new characters of this universe.
an entire new series would be nice but i think it'd be best if aot would to end like this. undoubtedly the most entertaining & realistic anime. ties so much things from our world into a single anime that conveys love, hate, regret, basically everything in this world into an anime. a masterpiece.
I have another theory. remember it was said that the founding Titan can see the memories of the future Titan? Eeran saw far into the future and what he saw is that despite him destroying 80% of the world - the world will be rebuild and llife will continue, civilization grow, war and similar events happen down the road in history. so for him it made sense to take care of the friends despite the horrific immediate consequences coz he knew the history will make its path anyway as it always does.
I think Eren has taken Ymir place in The Paths after she passed on peacefully watching the conclusion of Mikasa's action. Someone has to take her place in The Paths and there is none better than Eren, until that boy in the end with curiosity came. TBH, I don't want the series to be continue even though there are lots of potential; the ending gave very satisfying conclusion to Mikasa and all other hero that we love to live in peace and died an old age.
Yo I noticed the markings too. I thought eren died but that final scene of the kid and dog walking into eren’s tree aka burial site looked eerily similar to the tree where the titan parasite was found by Ymir. So yeah food for thought.
Just watched the second half of your video. Looks like you and I have the same idea about history repeating itself aka eren in big tree hole found by boy and dog is the same cycle as parasite Ymir stumbled upon in tree hole
"looked eerily similar to the tree where the titan parasite was found by Ymir" Yeah, that was like the most obvious sh*t ever, it wasn't something you had to explicitly think about to make that assumption.
Theres a part when he visited Armin in his memories where he said it doesnt end there. Like even after they defeat him. There will be peace for a while but it doesnt end there. So couldve meant it will resurge again. All organisms evolve to self preserve. hallucigenia organism will do whatever it can to thrive. So may have found a way to survive so it can attach itself again to another human. Unfortunately Ymir used Eren and mikasa to get herself out of slavery. She waited years for an anomoly to occur that she could use to free herself. That anomaly was eren and mikasa. Eren represented ymirs longing to be free and Mikasa represented Ymirs love for fritz and together they were the whole of ymir which allowed her to control the situation to create the freedom she wanted
It's possible that traces of the hallucigenia was still in erens head and / or blood, and it has been slowly regenerating over the years, and as it regenerated, the tree formed into what it is.
Impossible The Hallucigenia dissolved after eren died Possibly dying but it cannot die since its the source of all living life/matter My thinking is that it was turning invisible And just hiding hiding and continue to evolve
I saw a video that said the hallucigenia takes form of the persons greatest need or wish or whatever. Ymir wanted to be healed, so the hallucigenia gave her a big, strong, regenerating body. The boy at the end would obviously have no such desire, so he wouldn't be the beginning of another titan army. As to why the titan marks are still on Eren's face, I just imagine it's because he died that way. All the other shifters faces we see changed because they are alive. If we could've seen Zeke's face, it would be a bit easier to draw parallels. In the case Zeke didn't have his marks anymore, I feel like we could confirm Eren is indeed still alive. But we don't see him anymore after he dies, so we can never know for sure. Also, if we were to get an AOT spin-off, I'd prefer a prequel. Partly because I feel like a sequel would have all the characters mentioning the rumbling and everything over and over.
@@bumperjumper Oh shit you're right, he doesn't have the marks in the final ep. I guess I was just so used to seeing the marks on his face that my brain just remembered the last scene having them anyway. Either way, the first part about that still stands, I think Eren still has his marks because he died with them. Cells don't regrow when you're dead, hair doesn't grow, all that jazz.
As much as i want a continuation it won't be the same. Mikasa, Armin.. i don't want to see Erin without them. It would have to be a compelling story. But i don't see the creator of AoT wanting to ruine this ending. Continuing would feel like a complete reboot. It's a sad ending yes but it's complete.
In my latest video “The Untold Truth About Eren’s Death” I breakdown every possible scenario for the next installment of aot, there are 7 possibilities I was able to come up with
Tbh, as much as I would love an ending or even an extension to the story - all good things must end. I feel that Isayama should just release the final ending of what happened to eren, mikasa, and armin afterwards. Extending the anime is like how Naruto got extended to Boruto. But, the theory u said makes a lot more sense as to what Ymir's and Eren's intentions were.
I think it's quite reasonable, part of the reason why the theme song is called "To you,2000 years...or 20000 years from now",and in the song Eren himself said that at the end. Probably Eren waiting for a person in the future
Eren said that he is a slave of freedom. Because of that, to achieve freedom he kills 80% of humanity. He always wanted to flatten the earth to be free. Eren is waiting for a person not to free him as a slave of freedom but he is waiting for a person he sees in the future who can protect the peace every time war is about to break out for eternity. Don't forget when Eren gets a glimpse of the future there is a child like Armin and a black-haired girl with a choker on her neck. We never see those kids in anime because it is far far away in the future.
My doubt is why the Hallucigenia didn't just merge with Reiner, once it came out of Eren's neck after Jean bombed it? The Hallucigenia randomly merged with Yemir the first time as she was a host. So why it didn't randomly merge with Reiner or someone else instead of going for Eren?
Yeah that’s a really good point. My guess would be it needs to “bond” to some aspect of the person’s life or it stays bonded to the person wielding the founder’s power until they pass away
I think a host has to be willing too. Ymir lets herself be taken by the parasite. Also, it wouldn't have access to the power of the founder and recommence the rumbling.
Omg you might just be right! A couple more points: - Gabby shooting Eren's head clean off clearly didn't kill him, so why would Mikasa doing the exact same thing do it? -Your answer to the previous point may be that Ymir/hallucogenia saved him as that's what grows out of his head. BUT remember they clearly did NOT kill the hallucogenia in the final episode! They even comment that it's not even worth trying to do so since it survived Armin's colossal/nuke blast. Sure Ymir might now have closure and be clear to finally pass on, but that doesn't include the hallucogenia. Oh wow that perfectly fits your theory! (Lol and I even commented on a thread immediately after the ending about Eren's head not decomposing, but I didn't think much of it! It also explains the tree at the end but I just assumed that that was just thematic.) I hope you're right, not only because I don't want the show to end, but also bc as much as I love the show and the ending, I just saw a great video about how too many people still are misinterpreting Eren's character, essentially excusing genocide and fascists (sorry "Jaegerists") because of a deterministic timeline. And yeah as clear as it is that we should not admire him as he is a "pathetic garden variety idiot that came upon power" and in his world he was the ultimate slave to the future that he couldn't change - we in the real world should not be living our lives assuming that the future is determined and that we have no free will...) Again I still love the show and ending above almost all others, but I think it could be even better if say, like Guts in the later chapters of Berserk Eren can learn to overcome his trauma and grow from his weaknesses...perhaps representing a hope that maybe humanity can eventually outgrow the "cycle of hatred/violence."...(or as Armin would say, even if that goal is not feasible we should still strive for it...)
I normally don't reply to old comments, but the 2 ppl who replied earlier got it half right. While Zeke coming into contact with Eren did play a part in him not dying right then and there, the main reason why he survived having his head shot off was because that organism was inside him (once Zeke made contact with Eren's head). And he "died" when Mikasa cut off his head because, at the end, they separated Eren and the organism. If he and that organism came together before Mikasa was able to chop Eren's head off, Eren would have lived
@@odettep1464 I forgot I posted this. I absolutely agree with you now. (And even then I didn't necessarily posit that as a concrete speculation, but instead considering that Isayama may have left the possibility of some sort of continuance more open than it appeared.) Edit: After re-reading/considering my original post I admit I definitely sounded like I believed the "Eren didn't die from being decapitated" hypothesis (as "concrete speculation...") While I no longer remember my opinion at the time, *now* I do not believe that Eren somehow survived. (Nor do I think it would be a good idea.) However I still stand by most of the rest of my post. For example I believe that the Hallucinogenia's fate was left completely vague. Last we see Reiner is wrestling with it while Armin nuke-transforms. But we niether directly see it die nor run away. Was this some sort purposeful subtle foreshadowing, or was it just a plot-hole?
I wouldn't mind a sequel set in the far future. Maybe show the life of the person who came across the tree. Also wouldn't mind a prequel showing how Marley came to power.
I completely agree here. it was weird to me with the tree at the end but if it continues maybe we will see completely new titan type or why should there be only one entity that is capable of giving this power
Hallucigenia (that weird germ/thing) connected his body and head thus saving and regenerating him. 2nd time, Hallucigenia didn't manage to reconnect because Reiner was holding it.
DAMN bro you are really gaving me hope here! i REALLY hope it will happen! Indeed we have seen the kid and the dog as titans on erens founding titan so it does really give hope! 😲
what if the story was just a loop ? The nuclear war wipes out all of humanity, and thousands of years laters, the story repeats ( Ymir find the tree, ect ... ) It would make sense, no ? The univers just reset itself.
Perhaps it would be somewhat like Tales of Berseria and Tales of Zestiria. With 1000 years being in-between the two, their stories were their own. But, some of the events that transpired all those years ago DID impact the new characters' journey
Nah its over. And it should be. The ending is perfect, human vanity will never cease even if Titans are there or not. Thats the whole point of the show
Why can't people just let perfection be perfection. It's so anoying people always wanting more and more. Just this once be satisfied with this very good thing we got. Besides why risk the very high chance of a followup that doesn't do justice to the original. Also some points of yours are a bit off and some depend heavily on interpretation. Like assuming that mikasa meant heaven. Besides that, great theory. Tho I do think the tree was meant as symbolism that it is a cycle and not meant to be taken litteraly. Yeah eren didn't stop war forever and the cycle continues, but he did establish peace for thousands of years and I think many people underestimate how great of a feat that is. There can never rly be true peace, just like nothing can ever be in a true state of balance. It's just not the way the world works; the universe, space, time, politics, life, there is no existence without chaos. And that is not persé a bad thing, which a lot of people are making it out to be. Saying eren didn't succeed in creating peace, etc. They make it seem like he failed, when in actuality (like I said before) he achieved an amazing feat (1000+ years of peace) and succeeded in wiping out the power of the titans. Ps. Sorry, this comment is way too long. It's just annoying to see people dismiss all the good that came from his actions and basically say his whole life was a waste, when it's simply not true.
To be fair, we all know deep down that we want a continuation of this series. But then, it would feel like they're just milking it and trying to piggyback off the success. I don't think there will be a continuation though, and I think the boy in the credits is supposed to symbolize that its a loop, the cycle never ends.
Tbh I wouldn’t mind a Season 5 or sequel of AOT.I’d love to see the new titans,characters,and overall plot.I’d love to witness mind boggling plotwists occurring and insane new scenarios.
Well, yeah it might depend on how long you have it. Ymir had the power for 13 years. What if someone else had it longer than that does the power get stronger.
I doubt it, since in one interview Isayama said in an interview that the reason breaking bad is a masterpiece is because it had an ending and a conclusion and since he really likes breaking bad, I think this is the last of the attack on titan timeline.
@@bumperjumper if I were to guess it’s possible there is some sort of afterlife and Eren made some deal to access the world again with whatever omnipresent primordial being that surrounds the attack on Titan universe. Hell he could’ve been reincarnated into the school caste along with the other characters, since in the final Pages of School caste say that it’s hard to believe that titans existed 100 years ago and they wish that trio would be real to. I think is a hint at reincarnation considering how the world works in AOT.
its one of those shows where u dont want it to end and u also dont want it to become dragged out. i think they do a spin off but it carries on the story but couple years or decades later and we get new characters that are all related to the originals but it will explain eren even more. but they should only do 4 seasons of a spin off.
Believable, but improbable. Doesn't seem like sth Isayama would actually write. It fits with the lore of the series, but not with Isayama's vision. Not impossible for Isayama to choose to revisit this at the end of his career, but it doesn't seem like something he wants to do. As shown from tbe volume 34 extra story, it's clear that Isayam just went a simple "the end" with elements of open of interpetation for the viewers.
It does seem a bit off for isayama to extend it unnecessarily but also seems entirely like isayama to have a huge twist in a trailer reveal or something
Damn! Same thoughts especially about ymir damn I just love how different mangakas portray their view on life how the future present and past intertwine we repeating the same thing but in many different ways😭 I don't know if Im making sense but damn it's truly astonishing how uTa'Iseyama views things, and it's nice too to see that people have same views on Iseyamas view 😭🙌🏾 amazing "uTa' is my language by the way to show older brothers in a sense so yea big brother Iseyama RESPECT!
I went into this show not knowing what an emotional roller coaster this show is. One of my favorites shows ever but I don’t have the stamina to do it again lol
What gave AoT popularity was it's initial season the sheer power of titans, horror and the multitude of mysteries from wtf is that world where poeple live inside walls to Titans having human appearances. And what made you stick afterwards was the plot and the badass characters. I don't think it would be popular if they made an AoT 2 because it's hard to reproduce nostalgia and the first time feelings you get out of the show, but it's not impossible it would have to take a complete new way creative and intriguing while still managing to give us that epicness that was the first season and a solid story to follow it.
i hope they kinda revive this franchise because after the time of our protagonists we saw that the world didnt learn anything out of it and i hope there will be some anime/manga that ends it once and for all
If the titan marks still on eren's face that means the titan power is still on him...if he got injured somehow while he's in the ground idk if he can transform
Do you think he can still regenerate in the ground? I just remembered Eren told Grisha to keep moving forward even after death, which may be some genius foreshadowing 👀
@@bumperjumper Not gonna lie, Eren is so selfish chances are he allowed himself to "die" just so he could have an easier time destroying the world later. Sounds crazy but what if he is in the paths speaking to those from the past because what happens to everyone who was an eldian? They go to the paths upon death, So maybe theres a chance they can never truly die or something
Not a teaser for a potential next season, just an ending that points to that cycle beginning again. But I'd love to see an OVA about some of the loose ends. BUT I'd love way more to see the school chapters. 😂
Why would they showcase the boy and the dog that gonna make people wonder if there gonna be a new season maybe there lying about this is the end and they have something coming that we won’t suspect
i had very different interpretations as a psychologist and author, however i really liked this theory. it was pretty logical and interesting. bravo! you had my attention
@@bumperjumper When Mikasa killed Eren, she freed herself from her lover and Ymir was also freed from King Fritz, her own lover. In that moment, Ymir surpassed her mental trauma and thus titan powers seize to exist. As Eren said, Ymir wasn't waiting for him for 2000 years, but Mikasa.
@@eliassideris2037assuming Eren takes the place of Ymir in the paths, Eren has PLENTY of mental trauma to continue the cycle, which the story alludes to
This Theory is really good, AOT's ending was too sad, like you said Eren didn't really get to see the world with Armin Physically, The global conflict, and Paradie being destroyed it was like his death meant nothing in the end
In a world of constant sequels, prequels, and reimaginings I simply want to let this story end on a high note. There’s no reason for Isayama to continue the AoT story. He deserves a break or even better when he’s ready to write an entirely new story.
Well actually he wasn't a virgin since he literally spent 4 years alone with Mikasa in the cabin and you know it that the cabin was definitely shaking👀
If anything I would love to hear more about the 250,000 who first try and take wall Maria, I know how many die but there have to be great stories in there somewhere.
HERE ME OUT, the continuation story is set in the future (ofcourse), but with tech being very advanced, to where they have Gundam like suits giving the illusion of "titans" still at war? You could still throw in the power of the titans coming back, and at that point it's like titans fighting mecha titans. Witht he right writting there could be something gold there.
Shit happens man. The anime ending dropped recently. At least you didn't have the ending spoiled a year ago by some asshat commenting on a youtube video about the anime.
One thing has been bothering me about the ending. Here’s my theory: Why didn’t Eren visit Mikasa in the day dream state the way he did with Armin and others in the last episode? I believe Eren did visit Mikasa and gave her instructions about what Mikasa should do after she killls him. I have a sneaking suspicion that Eren did not die and him and Mikasa lived their lives together in secret.
I can dig it. I believe Eren became the entity that merged with Ymir in the beginning but this time with a shell because Eren does know how to harden. I think it’ll definitely recycle because he did die… go to the future thennnn manipulate the past outta nowhere but it’s so much that can happen
I feel that I should not spoil all of you but,... 1. The boy with a dog is Eren's reincarnation (2:17), 2. The black-haired girl with a choker is Mikasa's reincarnation. (When Eren's get a glimpse of the future). 3. We saw Armin's reincarnation along with the choker girl.
I wouldn’t consider myself a hardcore AOT enthusiast, or anything more than a lowkey-fan. While I did finish watching this gem of a series from start to finish, I may not be able to pick up every small detail about every character, or fully understand every single scenario that went down during all 4 seasons-I do believe Isayama along with the anime directors, added the scene with the boy delving down into the tree in the end-credits for 2 main reasons. First reason being very niche, Isayama as a writer simply wanted to leave his fans with some sort of plot-armor or source material so they could come up with their own ending or headcanon as to what happens towards the end or future of AOT. Second reason would be that, just in case once day Isayama does decide to return to being an active writer again, he is able to use the scene with the boy entering the tree as a continuation of AOT if he still does not feel 110% satisfied with where the story has gotten so far. Or maybe, even use that scene with boy entering the tree as source material for another one of his new creations. Almost like a prequel but not really a legit prequel. Instead, a completely different story involving different characters but it’s just set in the universe of AOT with mutual history involving titan-like monsters and a deity figure like Ymir. Nonetheless, nobody knows what the future actually holds for Isayama or AOT itself…however, I do believe that Isayama has left us with a lot of loose ends when it comes to this series. I’m just as nervous and excited to see what this genius-excuse-of-a-madman ( Isayama ) has in store for his readers and audience in the future. One thing for sure, AOT has definitely grown to be one of my most memorable and liked animes of all time.
Head cannon: If the cycle repeats like at the end with the boy and his dog, the boy is going to be the next founder and Eren's head is probably gonna play the same role as the glowing hallucigenia that gave Eren his founding titan powers.
I'm pretty sure Eren is dead. The marks didn't go away because he died while still being a titan. We have to remember that at this point, Eren was just a head. He never bothered regenerating his entire body back. Who's to say he even could? He only survived getting shot by Gabi because he made contact with Zeke. The fact Mikasa is as sad as she is cements that he didn't suddenly come back while she was carrying him back home. I don't think anyone would be surprised that she found a way to take him back, even if he was literally rotting in her arms. They would have run away together if he was alive. Eren shared some traits with Ymir, but he was mainly a slave of choices, mostly his own at the end. He saw that the conflict would continue to some degree, and in large part because of his choices. He created the Jaegerists who only want to keep fighting. So what was the point of the rumbling? His own decision-making was flawed, but he was stuck. What would have made sense was to eliminate the titan powers. Why neither he nor Zeke realized that was also a solution, is beyond me. No need to sterelize anyone or commit genocide. Level the playing field as much as possible and let everyone who wants to fight have at it.
There's no such thing as hell and heaven in AOT but afterlife exist like hanji saw the scouts after her death and in the ending song "itterasshai" it was shown Mikasa literally got reunited with Eren in afterlife 🙌
but, after watching the final, this makes me wonder, there is the path where only eldian can enter it because of titan power. and there is an afterlife where erwin, hange, everyone is there, is it because of titan power's too? or God created it, just like in our real life lore?
@@haris.19I think there is an afterlife in AOT cause we saw after hanji's death she got reunited with other survey corps members the same way Mikasa got reunited with Eren in the afterlife
What do you think happened to Eren? Did I change your mind?
I thought eren is really dead but after seeing your video I believe there is a fifty fifty chances for eren come back
And think about this if eren revives Mikasa,armin and all of his friends to see world after their deaths they will understand finally why eren wants to eradicate all life forms behind the wall think about it🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧
@@funnyopytHow tf would he revive them? this aint magic anime, they need to be injected with the titan fluid then they need to eat the titan WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE
@@Edvoid99 you are right this ain't a magic anime but can you explain how zeke , armin come back from dead can you explain and before you explain I have a theory that if eren takes ymirs place in the paths he can create them in there eventually think about this 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@funnyopytI hadn’t considered Eren showing someone that he was “right” all along, that’s interesting!
I can't even lie. Before this I was searching exactly for "After Eren dies does he become the next founder of titans?" Than you for confirming my suspicions ❤❤
Part of me wants the story to continue on because it’s such a amazing story but it’s because it’s such a good story that I think it should also just be put to rest, whatever happens next with that little boy should be left to our imaginations.
What do you think will happen/what do you want to happen?
@@bumperjumper if they do decide to continue the story then I think it will be about that little boy gaining titan powers and trying to descover what they are and find out the truth just as eren and the rest of the scout’s did while trying to get to the basement,
since the cycle repeats itself i think if done right, it could be a interesting story but instead of king fritz and Ymir being the main past it’s eren and his generation teaching the boy all about titans, and maybe through erens memories the cycle can finally end.
@@JDINKThat's a good idea, like a third great arc instead of a spinoff (first would be the first to their seasons, and second all the fourth season) the first season of this new marcoarch being the scout slowlyconevting to the past through memories while also fighting a much more human antagonist, and by the end of the season finally leearning most of the truth, with holes there and here that keep him from omniscience. The rest would be him fighting with Eren's ideas and destructive desires in an internal level while also having the plot propel by the external antagonist.
Still, PLEASE DONT
@@JDINKits a bad idea. No more mystery or intrigue just fan service. This show is iconic. Let it end as all great things do. The Author can create another great story if he’s up to it. But if he follows the money and nostalgia baits you and many others you’ll get what you want.
@@JDINKAnd this is why I subbed to you.
My theory is that wherever someone who had obtained the power of the founder is buried, a new hallucigenia is born. That doesn't necessarily mean that new hallucigenia is Eren's reincarnation. I believe Eren is permanently dead and that kid at the end of the show will become the new Ymir.
I like this a lot. But the fact that it happens over his burial site tells me there’s some sort of link there. Also, the symbolism of a phoenix transforming into a tree in the s4 pt1 outro makes me think Eren is still struggling somewhere
@@bumperjumper More like he just changed himself into a tree(contextual) so that others will get the Ymir like ymir got the titan power I guess.
yes it's a loop, and it was just Eren's turn.
@@zeldris478 what role do you think the kid at the end will play in the future?
@@bumperjumper most probably a villan
I want it to end. It's a beautiful ending.Considering the wars that are happening right now, it's a middle finger to what the actions of our leaders are leading us to.
I’ve always appreciated Isayama taking creative liberties throughout the show and the ending message was a nice touch
Yeah you're right but it would great to have a sequal or just one final movie showing what happened between mikasa and armin and the others from after eren died to them getting old
Beautiful statement
Dont act smart wars are more complicated then in aot (maby exept russia they just greedy)
@@Rel-c4p how about israel bro ?
As much as I want more of this amazing anime, I believe that sometimes, writers prefer to end with a little something for the readers to wonder about and make their own stories instead of giving them a non-questionable ending...It doesn't mean always that there will be a continuation...I do it in my books giving either hope or something to grab onto...
You sicko
@@vembertrxllAppreciating art isn’t sick my friend
Except they didn’t do that here. They left the entire ending open ended with plot holes everywhere
@@VashTheDamnFiendWell..if you have enough fantasy, you can fill in those holes😉
@@lizziepool1436 what 🤨🤨🤨
I had a theory that this "Ymir's" centipide is basically "life will" itself, most likely this tree is supposed to symbolize the Yiggdrasil, 9 worlds, 9 titans etc... So the thing is, this centipide came to Ymir when she was dying and wanted to live, but it's also interesting that Ymir became slave to Fritz, I think she became slave to children / main goal of life - to reproduce. That's why she is slave in Paths dimension. But when Ymir is kind, liked living things, in flashbacks she said basically "you need to live that everyone likes you and help others", Eren is about freedom, freedom imo is also one of the main goals of life, so I think if he still alive he is not a slave like Ymir, but maybe more like a slave to freedom, so my thought is, if it supposed to represent Yiggdrasil, what if the The "Ymir" tree supposed to be "Asgard tree" like gods literally gave Ymir powers (it also might be the Midgard tree), but the Eren tree supposed to be Alfheim tree. So if Asgard tree spawned when there is wiil to live, Alfheim tree is spawned when there is will to freedom. It sounds like a complete nonsense (especially because English is not my native language) but it kinda holds... Well first of all, Eren has green eyes, sometimes ltblue, Elfs are often portrayed with either green or ltblue eyes, elf ears in titan form, and he is pretty tall looking titan. We know for a fact that some of the titan stuff is based on Scandinavian mythology. After rereading, looks like a lot of overthinking nonsense tbh.
Nice theory but you speaks Good English why are you like..."Its my native language"
Nope it sounds like your onto something
Honestly yeah I could honestly see this being something because I also looked into Ymir and realized the founding titan is supposed to be the first giant. Aswell as the symbolism between the coordinate and the tree that connects all eldians to be like that of the trees in mythology. But idk it’s possible but I don’t think that isayama would think this deep into it and maybe only used it for reference and inspiration because poking at how rushed the story is, I don’t think he would think about something like this.
@@jezzerdubon7714 Yeah, for sure it might be just an inspiration, but including how "symbolism-heavy" and filled with history/myth references AOT is, it also might be planned out thing. Hope some day he will make an expansion to a story and world overall. But IMO him not explaining all this stuff was a planned decision, it makes people theorise about all this stuff which attracts even more people.
P.S. : Holy Sh#t, AOT ending was 7 months ago and I didn't even realise, it feels like it was a month ago.
@@vandanathapliyal7754 Yeah I think, I have an OK English, but when explaining and theorising stuff, I might use incorrect order, punctuation in scentences n'stuff, because my native language (Russian) is not as "order-heavy" as English.
I think yamir watching mikasa "do the right thing" and kill eren, allowed her to free herself from her self enslavement to the king.
Since she couldn't help but love him, so she obeyed him.. but Mikasa showed her that she can escape that
Ymir**
But if that’s the case, how did that revert time allowing Ymir to let the spear hit king Fritz? Wouldn’t that change everything we’ve seen in the anime?
@@erenjeager5290 It changed time???
The point is it gives her the release from her 1000's of years of self enslavement, because she loved the king and didn't even think about going against him.
Mikasa showed her that even with such feelings you can still do the right thing and not just be a slave to your love.
Which in theory allows the titan powers to die because she's no longer enslaved in the other world making the bodies.
If ymir could see the future she already knew Mikasa would kill him. So why wait 2000 years
@@erenjeager5290By killing the person she loved most, Mikasa showed Ymir that it was possible to escape her imprisonment and finally become free from her devotion. In doing so, Mikasa effectively changed the past because now Ymir is not enslaved to King Fritz and no longer needs to create titans for him. This is how the titans cease to exist after Eren's death. Ymir would live a long life and eventually die without passing her titans down and so the titans never exist against. So in a sense, the events of the past would be completely rewritten by the events of the future.
I really hope we get like an hour long special sort of like the lost girls or something like that but in this timeline, Eren completes the rumbling.
That’d be epic
AOE!! Would be fire, we’ll just have to see between November 19th - December 10th
I also want that, but Isayama already created so many plot holes in this 2nd timeline, that I don't hope there would be 3rd timeline 😢
@@jaipandey7142true im just hoping that the "final chapters" were just there to satisfy brain dead npcs who dont care about the story and the Show goes on from s4e28
@@invizzy But those who don't care about the story already got their ending.
Just imagine one day sitting by urself and scrolling through the internet and then seeing a new "Attack on titan" trailer 2025 ..😮
If that happened I would click on the trailer instantly
I would be pissed cause AOT is good by itself. An OVA would be neat tho
I won't watch it
I really want a sequel but I kinda don’t. A fan made version of a sequel would be pretty cool but I guess we can just dream
i would rather a long ova of just an alternate ending
When Mikasa chopped off his head, i'm a 1000% sure he was already gone/rendered powerless and Ymir was just using his vessel/founding powers to do the Rumbling. When he opened his eyes (atleast to me) it seemed he was grateful he was being put out of the misery both for not being able to stop what was going on but also to stop his 'hurting' .. I felt like he was controlled ever since Gabi shot off his head and even though he stood behind the choice of starting the rumbling, i feel he wasn't the one in charge for most of it. I'm conflicted though.. the ending scene could mean 2 things, 1 it is an endless cycle that will keep happening as "this is a life lesson to us all IRL" or 2 there will actually be a sequel and this was the intro
I love the idea man
You are absolutely right
Would be one of the best intros lol
No I think eren was still in control, but you're right about him wanting her to end it.
And no, there won't be a sequel.
Like you said, it's meant to show that it's a cycle that is doomed to repeat itself.
@@matthewbrantner798 exactly, there may be no need for us to go through the same cycle again. Unless the supposed next sequel gets to show that freedom was later achieved. Something like that
I love how this anime seems like it's real history and titans DID exist so far back that no one actually knows about them in current days
It did, at least if you believe in what the Bible says 🤔
I mean who knows, could be true and we're just oblivious to it.
The Bible: the nephilim
@@thequarter2 I haven't read the bible fully. I read the full book of genesis and parts of the new testament but I know a lot of the writers inspirations come from biblical stuff. I dont know what happened with the Nephilim but I would appreciate it if you told me about it.
@@Thegrimm52nephilims are the the results of “ sons of God” who bred with humans. They where wiped after the great flood
even if attack on titan got a new story or same story with some same characters, it cant hit this much this is the maximum. it will never get as epic as this
but i would really like to see the story continue. i might write my own story about what happens after that boy and the dog approaches the tree
In my latest video “The Untold Truth About Eren’s Death” I breakdown every possible scenario for the next installment of aot, there are 7 possibilities I was able to come up with. It would be fuel for you writing what comes next
if you ever do it definitely let us know, would love to read it!
Oh I see this is the next generation
It's Isayama we're talking about here. I've rewatched AOT so many times and I always find something new that shocks me, He can make another masterpiece if he wants lol.
Plot twist: that dog fell in the tree and gained titan power
I would actually love to see this. Considering that Eren admits himself that he has been going crazy because all time exists in up his head all at once, so I imagine after 2000 years he would be totally insane. That would be really cool to see in my opinion. As well as that, I feel like maybe he could be the next hallucinogenia because he was buried in that tree and the next person would at some time fall in and become the next founding Titan, completing Eren’s will.
Would be awesome to see a continuation of that final scene after the credits. Only thing is, it could result in something other than Titans this time.
That’d be dope to see
could be considering that one intro that had dinosaurs and other extinct animals running alongside Zeke.
It's my hero quirks
I will always believe Attack on titans isn’t over
It’s been over a decade so I’m with you on that!
@@bumperjumper Thank you attack on titans will return and we will be waiting
@@bumperjumper i hope on my life that we will get a special chapter or something like that:DD
I have to believe that. Just finished this anime yesterday and it seems like no other will compare to it😭
Its the story telling and the journey hitting hard. Ive been reading & watching it for a decade@@alexlong1920
since it's all a cycle that repeats itself I'm wondering who Became a Titan before Ymir, what she or he looked like, maybe they had a civilization that was better than ours and it got destroyed and years later we see Ymir running inside that tree where a Titan was buried years ago. my brain hurts.
my take on the end is that some of the founder's power remained with eren at his grave, then developed the tree again. fate dictates that the cycle repeats over and over again, that the struggle for freedom will continue endlessly (as said in the ending song lyrics)
however it's unlikely that the titans would come back in their previous form, as look at the boy compared to ymir. while the boy is venturing here seemingly out of his free will and free of danger, ymir was desperately running away, injured, trying to survive. as zeke says, the paths and the titans were born out of ymir's will to survive, so she escaped to it after death. most likely out of the boy something better will come to be, something unlike the titans, showing there is still hope for humanity to escape the cycle after all this
and no eren won't come back to life nor will the series continue, i'd rather it not pull a "somehow eren returned" thing
Honestly not bringing Eren back would also be kinda bad since after he caused so much destruction, I’d say he got off too easy lol
What if the boy is the last of human kind and wishes for more humans or a companion with powers who passed it down to their children. Or something along those lines 😅
Somehow eren returned is actually amazing that made me laugh. I want to see that now
@@bumperjumperhe didn’t, he’s an extremely traumatized boy in a world of literal monsters. He can see the present, future and past all at once and he can’t change anything about it.
I believe that future is also shaped into what it is cause of what he wants deep down (protect his friends and loved ones) but he ofc doesn’t want to kill 80% of humanity so he’s unknowingly manipulating himself at the same time as manipulating everything else into a selffullfilling proficy.
For years he has suffered a hellish life, he suffered more then anyone else. Im not justifying his actions with his suffering btw.
But lets say he didn’t go for it, he went to the cabin and lived in peace with Mikasa till he died. Then Marley would attack paradis anyway cause they’re scared of the rumbling. They’d kill everyone and take the founding titan. Marley already was in multiple wars before this. What do you think they’d do with the founding titan? They’d become the new king Fritz, hated by the rest of the world and turned into a new paradis after years of horrible war.
Eren created a moment of peace in history for the ones he cared about and the ones who will repopulate the earth so they can live in peace before the next war.
I have the same theory.
Also, a new season of attack on titan would completely ruin it. The story is complete, the message is clear.
So if u guys are big Aot fans you probably know Isayama’s biggest inspiration for Aot was a visual novel called Muv-Luv and it’s kinda crazy how many similarities the 2 series have Muv-Luv actually has multiple endings witch was one of the big calluses for the AOE theory’s (anime original ending) and basically Muv-Luv original ending is very similar to the ending of Aot but 3 years later they released Muv-Luv alternate and the alternative/ real ending was very similar to the ANR ( Akatsuki no Requiem) theory’s for how Aot was “supposed” to end according to the linked horizon music video that is supposed to symbolically foreshadow the ending of Attack on Titan.
Basically my point is don’t be surprised if in 2026 something called Attack on Titan Alternate comes out.
Yeah it’s almost absurd the amount of influence attack on Titan took from muv luv alternative; getting an addition to the series in the spirit of muv luv would not surprise me at all!
@@bumperjumperThat's basically the thing I'm holding into AOT since the AOE theories were 100,000% debunked!
Could it be that Eren took all 9 shifter for himself like Ymir, I believe we will get sequel but it will be totally different Name and Characters but hopefully we get to see Eren
I was thinking they would start fresh with new characters and a new story all set in the same universe. Getting to see Eren again would be really cool!
Even though, It'd be great to see some kind of paralells to attack on titan or some references to specific characters.
@@bumperjumper Eren Yeager is by far one of the characters that had a lot of potential.
They better not Boruto this anime. I swear we will RIOT
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I think I felt more emotional when Mikasa died and the progress of AoT world into modern and futuristic warfare.
The aftermath of nuclear war made me want to see new characters of this universe.
Yeah I like how it became more gripped in our reality at the end.
I’d be down for new characters
an entire new series would be nice but i think it'd be best if aot would to end like this. undoubtedly the most entertaining & realistic anime. ties so much things from our world into a single anime that conveys love, hate, regret, basically everything in this world into an anime. a masterpiece.
I have another theory. remember it was said that the founding Titan can see the memories of the future Titan? Eeran saw far into the future and what he saw is that despite him destroying 80% of the world - the world will be rebuild and llife will continue, civilization grow, war and similar events happen down the road in history. so for him it made sense to take care of the friends despite the horrific immediate consequences coz he knew the history will make its path anyway as it always does.
Yeah bro... That too makes sense
i dont want it to end. aot is one of my favorite anime. i watched it like 5 times. and still gonna watch it
I think Eren has taken Ymir place in The Paths after she passed on peacefully watching the conclusion of Mikasa's action. Someone has to take her place in The Paths and there is none better than Eren, until that boy in the end with curiosity came. TBH, I don't want the series to be continue even though there are lots of potential; the ending gave very satisfying conclusion to Mikasa and all other hero that we love to live in peace and died an old age.
The story of Eren and Mikasa is done.
We will get a new story 20,000 years in the future with a new main character.
sannes explained to hange when one perishes another comes in to take on the role. Eren has now taked on the role of handling the paths.
As much as I wish for AoT to continue, I think this much is enough before something happens that fucks up the series.
Yo I noticed the markings too. I thought eren died but that final scene of the kid and dog walking into eren’s tree aka burial site looked eerily similar to the tree where the titan parasite was found by Ymir. So yeah food for thought.
Just watched the second half of your video. Looks like you and I have the same idea about history repeating itself aka eren in big tree hole found by boy and dog is the same cycle as parasite Ymir stumbled upon in tree hole
Would you want to see the continuation of the series go this route?
"looked eerily similar to the tree where the titan parasite was found by Ymir"
Yeah, that was like the most obvious sh*t ever, it wasn't something you had to explicitly think about to make that assumption.
@@eliassideris2037right?
Oh you don't say?
Theres a part when he visited Armin in his memories where he said it doesnt end there. Like even after they defeat him. There will be peace for a while but it doesnt end there. So couldve meant it will resurge again. All organisms evolve to self preserve. hallucigenia organism will do whatever it can to thrive. So may have found a way to survive so it can attach itself again to another human. Unfortunately Ymir used Eren and mikasa to get herself out of slavery. She waited years for an anomoly to occur that she could use to free herself. That anomaly was eren and mikasa. Eren represented ymirs longing to be free and Mikasa represented Ymirs love for fritz and together they were the whole of ymir which allowed her to control the situation to create the freedom she wanted
4:15 you're completely right, how did I never think of this part?! 😂🤣👍
It's possible that traces of the hallucigenia was still in erens head and / or blood, and it has been slowly regenerating over the years, and as it regenerated, the tree formed into what it is.
Impossible
The Hallucigenia dissolved after eren died
Possibly dying but it cannot die since its the source of all living life/matter
My thinking is that it was turning invisible
And just hiding hiding and continue to evolve
The ending is perfect but I can't say goodbye to Mikasa and everyone else, I wanna see more of them, I need it :(
I saw a video that said the hallucigenia takes form of the persons greatest need or wish or whatever. Ymir wanted to be healed, so the hallucigenia gave her a big, strong, regenerating body. The boy at the end would obviously have no such desire, so he wouldn't be the beginning of another titan army. As to why the titan marks are still on Eren's face, I just imagine it's because he died that way. All the other shifters faces we see changed because they are alive. If we could've seen Zeke's face, it would be a bit easier to draw parallels. In the case Zeke didn't have his marks anymore, I feel like we could confirm Eren is indeed still alive. But we don't see him anymore after he dies, so we can never know for sure. Also, if we were to get an AOT spin-off, I'd prefer a prequel. Partly because I feel like a sequel would have all the characters mentioning the rumbling and everything over and over.
Zeke’s face doesn’t have the titan marks. And yes a prequel would be really cool. I’m down for that
@@bumperjumper Oh shit you're right, he doesn't have the marks in the final ep. I guess I was just so used to seeing the marks on his face that my brain just remembered the last scene having them anyway. Either way, the first part about that still stands, I think Eren still has his marks because he died with them. Cells don't regrow when you're dead, hair doesn't grow, all that jazz.
As much as i want a continuation it won't be the same. Mikasa, Armin.. i don't want to see Erin without them. It would have to be a compelling story. But i don't see the creator of AoT wanting to ruine this ending. Continuing would feel like a complete reboot. It's a sad ending yes but it's complete.
In my latest video “The Untold Truth About Eren’s Death” I breakdown every possible scenario for the next installment of aot, there are 7 possibilities I was able to come up with
Tbh, as much as I would love an ending or even an extension to the story - all good things must end. I feel that Isayama should just release the final ending of what happened to eren, mikasa, and armin afterwards. Extending the anime is like how Naruto got extended to Boruto.
But, the theory u said makes a lot more sense as to what Ymir's and Eren's intentions were.
Yeah I would’ve liked to see more of what happened to the main characters afterwards, especially Armin
yup, plus its heavy too
I think it's quite reasonable, part of the reason why the theme song is called "To you,2000 years...or 20000 years from now",and in the song Eren himself said that at the end. Probably Eren waiting for a person in the future
For what purpose do you think Eren is waiting for the next person?
Eren said that he is a slave of freedom.
Because of that, to achieve freedom he kills 80% of humanity.
He always wanted to flatten the earth to be free.
Eren is waiting for a person not to free him as a slave of freedom but
he is waiting for a person he sees in the future who can protect the peace
every time war is about to break out for eternity.
Don't forget when Eren gets a glimpse of the future there is a child like Armin and
a black-haired girl with a choker on her neck. We never see those kids in anime because
it is far far away in the future.
Ymir: "Finally a construction co-worker!"
My doubt is why the Hallucigenia didn't just merge with Reiner, once it came out of Eren's neck after Jean bombed it? The Hallucigenia randomly merged with Yemir the first time as she was a host. So why it didn't randomly merge with Reiner or someone else instead of going for Eren?
Yeah that’s a really good point. My guess would be it needs to “bond” to some aspect of the person’s life or it stays bonded to the person wielding the founder’s power until they pass away
@@bumperjumper okay
I think a host has to be willing too. Ymir lets herself be taken by the parasite. Also, it wouldn't have access to the power of the founder and recommence the rumbling.
Omg you might just be right! A couple more points:
- Gabby shooting Eren's head clean off clearly didn't kill him, so why would Mikasa doing the exact same thing do it?
-Your answer to the previous point may be that Ymir/hallucogenia saved him as that's what grows out of his head. BUT remember they clearly did NOT kill the hallucogenia in the final episode! They even comment that it's not even worth trying to do so since it survived Armin's colossal/nuke blast.
Sure Ymir might now have closure and be clear to finally pass on, but that doesn't include the hallucogenia. Oh wow that perfectly fits your theory! (Lol and I even commented on a thread immediately after the ending about Eren's head not decomposing, but I didn't think much of it! It also explains the tree at the end but I just assumed that that was just thematic.)
I hope you're right, not only because I don't want the show to end, but also bc as much as I love the show and the ending, I just saw a great video about how too many people still are misinterpreting Eren's character, essentially excusing genocide and fascists (sorry "Jaegerists") because of a deterministic timeline. And yeah as clear as it is that we should not admire him as he is a "pathetic garden variety idiot that came upon power" and in his world he was the ultimate slave to the future that he couldn't change - we in the real world should not be living our lives assuming that the future is determined and that we have no free will...)
Again I still love the show and ending above almost all others, but I think it could be even better if say, like Guts in the later chapters of Berserk Eren can learn to overcome his trauma and grow from his weaknesses...perhaps representing a hope that maybe humanity can eventually outgrow the "cycle of hatred/violence."...(or as Armin would say, even if that goal is not feasible we should still strive for it...)
Eren didn't die to gabi's shot simply because Zeke caught his head just in time. Just to remind you that Zeke is of royal blood.
Eren survived Gabi shot only because zeke caught his head
I normally don't reply to old comments, but the 2 ppl who replied earlier got it half right. While Zeke coming into contact with Eren did play a part in him not dying right then and there, the main reason why he survived having his head shot off was because that organism was inside him (once Zeke made contact with Eren's head). And he "died" when Mikasa cut off his head because, at the end, they separated Eren and the organism. If he and that organism came together before Mikasa was able to chop Eren's head off, Eren would have lived
@@odettep1464 I forgot I posted this. I absolutely agree with you now. (And even then I didn't necessarily posit that as a concrete speculation, but instead considering that Isayama may have left the possibility of some sort of continuance more open than it appeared.)
Edit: After re-reading/considering my original post I admit I definitely sounded like I believed the "Eren didn't die from being decapitated" hypothesis (as "concrete speculation...") While I no longer remember my opinion at the time, *now* I do not believe that Eren somehow survived. (Nor do I think it would be a good idea.) However I still stand by most of the rest of my post. For example I believe that the Hallucinogenia's fate was left completely vague. Last we see Reiner is wrestling with it while Armin nuke-transforms. But we niether directly see it die nor run away. Was this some sort purposeful subtle foreshadowing, or was it just a plot-hole?
i think that if they're gonna keep Eren alive they need one heck of an explanation
If Isayama didn't write anything within the past 5 years when AOT was at peak, I would state that it's possible this is the end.
I wouldn't mind a sequel set in the far future. Maybe show the life of the person who came across the tree. Also wouldn't mind a prequel showing how Marley came to power.
I completely agree here. it was weird to me with the tree at the end but if it continues maybe we will see completely new titan type or why should there be only one entity that is capable of giving this power
Can someone explain something, Erens head came off before becoming founder titan. He didn’t die. When Mikasa cut his head he died.
Hallucigenia (that weird germ/thing) connected his body and head thus saving and regenerating him. 2nd time, Hallucigenia didn't manage to reconnect because Reiner was holding it.
DAMN bro you are really gaving me hope here! i REALLY hope it will happen!
Indeed we have seen the kid and the dog as titans on erens founding titan so it does really give hope! 😲
what if the story was just a loop ? The nuclear war wipes out all of humanity, and thousands of years laters, the story repeats ( Ymir find the tree, ect ... ) It would make sense, no ? The univers just reset itself.
And eren is the strange entity ....
im crying rn because i just saw that AOT ended, my first ever anime.
Bro it shows the cycle of hatred, not an titan era
Perhaps it would be somewhat like Tales of Berseria and Tales of Zestiria. With 1000 years being in-between the two, their stories were their own. But, some of the events that transpired all those years ago DID impact the new characters' journey
Nah its over. And it should be. The ending is perfect, human vanity will never cease even if Titans are there or not. Thats the whole point of the show
Lemme see tho
it’s just a way to show that the cycle of hate started again and might never stop. (my opinion)
Loved It, What an amazing story, what an amazing ride❤
It’s hard to believe this 10+ year wild ride is coming to an end
Why can't people just let perfection be perfection. It's so anoying people always wanting more and more. Just this once be satisfied with this very good thing we got. Besides why risk the very high chance of a followup that doesn't do justice to the original.
Also some points of yours are a bit off and some depend heavily on interpretation. Like assuming that mikasa meant heaven. Besides that, great theory. Tho I do think the tree was meant as symbolism that it is a cycle and not meant to be taken litteraly. Yeah eren didn't stop war forever and the cycle continues, but he did establish peace for thousands of years and I think many people underestimate how great of a feat that is. There can never rly be true peace, just like nothing can ever be in a true state of balance. It's just not the way the world works; the universe, space, time, politics, life, there is no existence without chaos. And that is not persé a bad thing, which a lot of people are making it out to be. Saying eren didn't succeed in creating peace, etc. They make it seem like he failed, when in actuality (like I said before) he achieved an amazing feat (1000+ years of peace) and succeeded in wiping out the power of the titans.
Ps. Sorry, this comment is way too long. It's just annoying to see people dismiss all the good that came from his actions and basically say his whole life was a waste, when it's simply not true.
I hope Eren and Mikasa had a happy life together like wth are these titans want and whats their deal why wouldn't they just disappear😢
To be fair, we all know deep down that we want a continuation of this series. But then, it would feel like they're just milking it and trying to piggyback off the success. I don't think there will be a continuation though, and I think the boy in the credits is supposed to symbolize that its a loop, the cycle never ends.
Tbh I wouldn’t mind a Season 5 or sequel of AOT.I’d love to see the new titans,characters,and overall plot.I’d love to witness mind boggling plotwists occurring and insane new scenarios.
Same, it’d be a wild ride
@@bumperjumperwait a minute did you say it’s not ending oh my goodness
Well, yeah it might depend on how long you have it. Ymir had the power for 13 years. What if someone else had it longer than that does the power get stronger.
Mikasa always wanted to be loved by eren❤😊😊
I think he survived and he's the one making transformations now
Hey Dwayne! That would be some great cyclical storytelling. It’s tragic and creative
@@bumperjumperfor all we know he plan it all long
All good things come to an end. This is a beautiful ending that we got, no need to continue it further.
I doubt it, since in one interview Isayama said in an interview that the reason breaking bad is a masterpiece is because it had an ending and a conclusion and since he really likes breaking bad, I think this is the last of the attack on titan timeline.
And I think he could be lying to reset our expectations back into blank state when he release new material
@@freshbakedclips4659honestly I don’t even know at this point.
That makes sense. How would you feel about the “prequel” route? Or even a complete reboot of the series?
Hahaha yeah this does sound like something he’d do
@@bumperjumper if I were to guess it’s possible there is some sort of afterlife and Eren made some deal to access the world again with whatever omnipresent primordial being that surrounds the attack on Titan universe. Hell he could’ve been reincarnated into the school caste along with the other characters, since in the final Pages of School caste say that it’s hard to believe that titans existed 100 years ago and they wish that trio would be real to. I think is a hint at reincarnation considering how the world works in AOT.
its one of those shows where u dont want it to end and u also dont want it to become dragged out. i think they do a spin off but it carries on the story but couple years or decades later and we get new characters that are all related to the originals but it will explain eren even more. but they should only do 4 seasons of a spin off.
Believable, but improbable. Doesn't seem like sth Isayama would actually write.
It fits with the lore of the series, but not with Isayama's vision. Not impossible for Isayama to choose to revisit this at the end of his career, but it doesn't seem like something he wants to do.
As shown from tbe volume 34 extra story, it's clear that Isayam just went a simple "the end" with elements of open of interpetation for the viewers.
It does seem a bit off for isayama to extend it unnecessarily but also seems entirely like isayama to have a huge twist in a trailer reveal or something
Damn! Same thoughts especially about ymir damn I just love how different mangakas portray their view on life how the future present and past intertwine we repeating the same thing but in many different ways😭 I don't know if Im making sense but damn it's truly astonishing how uTa'Iseyama views things, and it's nice too to see that people have same views on Iseyamas view 😭🙌🏾 amazing
"uTa' is my language by the way to show older brothers in a sense so yea big brother Iseyama RESPECT!
I went into this show not knowing what an emotional roller coaster this show is. One of my favorites shows ever but I don’t have the stamina to do it again lol
What gave AoT popularity was it's initial season the sheer power of titans, horror and the multitude of mysteries from wtf is that world where poeple live inside walls to Titans having human appearances. And what made you stick afterwards was the plot and the badass characters. I don't think it would be popular if they made an AoT 2 because it's hard to reproduce nostalgia and the first time feelings you get out of the show, but it's not impossible it would have to take a complete new way creative and intriguing while still managing to give us that epicness that was the first season and a solid story to follow it.
I don't think Eren died a virgin... not after spending years with Mikasa ina cabin with the paths....
Yeah but that’s like mind/imagination stuff almost. It’s like a step up from VR, you know it’s not entirely real
i hope they kinda revive this franchise because after the time of our protagonists we saw that the world didnt learn anything out of it and i hope there will be some anime/manga that ends it once and for all
None of this would’ve happened because of Ymir’s clumsy ass
If the titan marks still on eren's face that means the titan power is still on him...if he got injured somehow while he's in the ground idk if he can transform
Do you think he can still regenerate in the ground? I just remembered Eren told Grisha to keep moving forward even after death, which may be some genius foreshadowing 👀
@@bumperjumper Not gonna lie, Eren is so selfish chances are he allowed himself to "die" just so he could have an easier time destroying the world later. Sounds crazy but what if he is in the paths speaking to those from the past because what happens to everyone who was an eldian? They go to the paths upon death, So maybe theres a chance they can never truly die or something
Not a teaser for a potential next season, just an ending that points to that cycle beginning again.
But I'd love to see an OVA about some of the loose ends.
BUT I'd love way more to see the school chapters. 😂
Wait who will make titans now cause Ymir is no more so who's gonna make the Titan
It could be EREN who took her place@@Forever_2424
Eren could possibly
Why would they showcase the boy and the dog that gonna make people wonder if there gonna be a new season maybe there lying about this is the end and they have something coming that we won’t suspect
i had very different interpretations as a psychologist and author, however i really liked this theory. it was pretty logical and interesting. bravo! you had my attention
The titan’s powers seemed to be restricted to the severe mental trauma Ymir grew up with.
How so?
@@bumperjumper When Mikasa killed Eren, she freed herself from her lover and Ymir was also freed from King Fritz, her own lover. In that moment, Ymir surpassed her mental trauma and thus titan powers seize to exist. As Eren said, Ymir wasn't waiting for him for 2000 years, but Mikasa.
@@eliassideris2037what
@@eliassideris2037assuming Eren takes the place of Ymir in the paths, Eren has PLENTY of mental trauma to continue the cycle, which the story alludes to
Wow..this is a plausible and amazing theory. I hope this would come true!
3:02 bro got six eyes
This Theory is really good, AOT's ending was too sad, like you said Eren didn't really get to see the world with Armin Physically, The global conflict, and Paradie being destroyed it was like his death meant nothing in the end
In a world of constant sequels, prequels, and reimaginings I simply want to let this story end on a high note. There’s no reason for Isayama to continue the AoT story. He deserves a break or even better when he’s ready to write an entirely new story.
Yeah isayama deserves it. It’s been such a great ride all these years
This can't be the end.
There's so much potential for this to continue :')
"He died a virgin"😂😂wtf
I was about to say the same thing 😂
Well actually he wasn't a virgin since he literally spent 4 years alone with Mikasa in the cabin and you know it that the cabin was definitely shaking👀
♂️ Many legend's Died single like as Newton 🔥
@techifyjigarthegamer Eren's pull out game is crazy
He died as a Chad 🗿
If anything I would love to hear more about the 250,000 who first try and take wall Maria, I know how many die but there have to be great stories in there somewhere.
I would say the show is finished but they left it open so they can possibly reboot it years down the line
Would you want a reboot?
@@bumperjumper yeah I’d be for it tbh lol
HOW DID I JUST REALISE THE TREE TRUNK IS LIKE THE ONE YOUNG YMIR FOUND BEFOR SHE TURNED INTO THE FIRST EVER TITAN
He died a Virgin! that's gotta be the worst! for sure
That’s enough reason alone to continue the cycle of attack on titan
HERE ME OUT, the continuation story is set in the future (ofcourse), but with tech being very advanced, to where they have Gundam like suits giving the illusion of "titans" still at war? You could still throw in the power of the titans coming back, and at that point it's like titans fighting mecha titans. Witht he right writting there could be something gold there.
I subscribe to you but haven't finished the anime yet title is spoiler
Shit happens man. The anime ending dropped recently. At least you didn't have the ending spoiled a year ago by some asshat commenting on a youtube video about the anime.
Ymir is running away from dogs the boy is with a dog the cycle has ended so sadly we can’t get Revenge BUT if you are right this is gonna be amazing
Did you notice the dog-like titan on top of Eren’s skeleton body while they were fighting?
He died a virgin 🤣🤣🤣!
It’s true. Unless you believe the theory that Historia’s baby is actually Eren’s
One thing has been bothering me about the ending. Here’s my theory:
Why didn’t Eren visit Mikasa in the day dream state the way he did with Armin and others in the last episode? I believe Eren did visit Mikasa and gave her instructions about what Mikasa should do after she killls him. I have a sneaking suspicion that Eren did not die and him and Mikasa lived their lives together in secret.
this is such a good theory holy fuck it genuinely makes sense
I can dig it. I believe Eren became the entity that merged with Ymir in the beginning but this time with a shell because Eren does know how to harden. I think it’ll definitely recycle because he did die… go to the future thennnn manipulate the past outta nowhere but it’s so much that can happen
I feel that I should not spoil all of you but,...
1. The boy with a dog is Eren's reincarnation (2:17),
2. The black-haired girl with a choker is Mikasa's reincarnation. (When Eren's get a glimpse of the future).
3. We saw Armin's reincarnation along with the choker girl.
Man, I hate how I can clearly see what you mean and somewhat agree! 😤😩
😂😁
There better be more to aot, that ending credits scene of Paradis being destroyed kinda pissed me off...
NGL, Eren's head on the thumbnail looks like an awakened in Claymore.
If u listen the official song at the end of the last episode, there's a line at the end of the song "To you, 2000 years, maybe, 20000 years later."
I like this theory best and to me it “fixes” the ending somewhat. However I don’t think we need a continuation of the actual series based on that.
Literally the only reason I want more. Give them another chance to end it right lol
I hope it does continue. Attack on Titan is my favorite anime. New subscriber
I wouldn’t consider myself a hardcore AOT enthusiast, or anything more than a lowkey-fan. While I did finish watching this gem of a series from start to finish, I may not be able to pick up every small detail about every character, or fully understand every single scenario that went down during all 4 seasons-I do believe Isayama along with the anime directors, added the scene with the boy delving down into the tree in the end-credits for 2 main reasons.
First reason being very niche, Isayama as a writer simply wanted to leave his fans with some sort of plot-armor or source material so they could come up with their own ending or headcanon as to what happens towards the end or future of AOT.
Second reason would be that, just in case once day Isayama does decide to return to being an active writer again, he is able to use the scene with the boy entering the tree as a continuation of AOT if he still does not feel 110% satisfied with where the story has gotten so far. Or maybe, even use that scene with boy entering the tree as source material for another one of his new creations. Almost like a prequel but not really a legit prequel. Instead, a completely different story involving different characters but it’s just set in the universe of AOT with mutual history involving titan-like monsters and a deity figure like Ymir.
Nonetheless, nobody knows what the future actually holds for Isayama or AOT itself…however, I do believe that Isayama has left us with a lot of loose ends when it comes to this series. I’m just as nervous and excited to see what this genius-excuse-of-a-madman ( Isayama ) has in store for his readers and audience in the future. One thing for sure, AOT has definitely grown to be one of my most memorable and liked animes of all time.
That end credits scene is literally the best ending twist I've ever seen in my life.
Head cannon: If the cycle repeats like at the end with the boy and his dog, the boy is going to be the next founder and Eren's head is probably gonna play the same role as the glowing hallucigenia that gave Eren his founding titan powers.
I'm pretty sure Eren is dead. The marks didn't go away because he died while still being a titan. We have to remember that at this point, Eren was just a head. He never bothered regenerating his entire body back. Who's to say he even could? He only survived getting shot by Gabi because he made contact with Zeke. The fact Mikasa is as sad as she is cements that he didn't suddenly come back while she was carrying him back home. I don't think anyone would be surprised that she found a way to take him back, even if he was literally rotting in her arms. They would have run away together if he was alive.
Eren shared some traits with Ymir, but he was mainly a slave of choices, mostly his own at the end. He saw that the conflict would continue to some degree, and in large part because of his choices. He created the Jaegerists who only want to keep fighting. So what was the point of the rumbling? His own decision-making was flawed, but he was stuck. What would have made sense was to eliminate the titan powers. Why neither he nor Zeke realized that was also a solution, is beyond me. No need to sterelize anyone or commit genocide. Level the playing field as much as possible and let everyone who wants to fight have at it.
There's no such thing as hell and heaven in AOT but afterlife exist like hanji saw the scouts after her death and in the ending song "itterasshai" it was shown Mikasa literally got reunited with Eren in afterlife 🙌
but, after watching the final, this makes me wonder, there is the path where only eldian can enter it because of titan power. and there is an afterlife where erwin, hange, everyone is there, is it because of titan power's too? or God created it, just like in our real life lore?
@@haris.19I think there is an afterlife in AOT cause we saw after hanji's death she got reunited with other survey corps members the same way Mikasa got reunited with Eren in the afterlife