Which Champion of Chaos is the Most Powerful? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  8 місяців тому +295

    No matter who wins this, we can all agree it would be a hell of a thing to watch
    As a side note, I am still figuring out the settings and set up for the new microphone and lighting and would love some feedback
    For example - is the right side of my body overexposed? Does the Mic sound a bit tinny and boxy? Or am I just overthinking it

    • @Putuch6
      @Putuch6 8 місяців тому +6

      It does a bit boxy indeed but still better than getting that noise reduction too far, in the past I used to struggle with voice on your vids in public spaces on my headphones.

    • @JohnJohn-r4l
      @JohnJohn-r4l 8 місяців тому +2

      get it? hell?! like, the warp? like, warp god?! like, CHAOS GOD?! LIKE, CHAOS GODS GREATEST CHAMPIONS VS EACH OTHER?!!??!
      (im going fucking insane and I dont know if it feels good or bad)

    • @Coalition2298qy.
      @Coalition2298qy. 8 місяців тому +4

      Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a God

    • @szymonkalinski3014
      @szymonkalinski3014 8 місяців тому +1

      I like Lucius the Eternal and it will be funny if he somehow return to action and sodomise Kharn or other Chaos champion.

    • @irishmerit
      @irishmerit 8 місяців тому +5

      But more light on your left... Need to even it out a bit. BTW long time fan from Las Vegas. Keep up the great work you Aussie Dingus

  • @fionn2220
    @fionn2220 8 місяців тому +396

    "Kharn was hitting Abaddons sword so hard that the faces on the blade morphed into grimaces of pain, due to the daemon within the sword being hurt by the blows."
    Considering the daemon in Abaddons sword nearly killed the Emperor that is actually ridiculous.

  • @AndrewPeverells
    @AndrewPeverells 8 місяців тому +1498

    Kharn: killed but resurrected by Khorne
    Lucius: killed multiple times but resurrected by Slaanesh
    Typhus: killed but resurrected by Nurgle
    Ahriman: laughs in over-nerdiness

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit 8 місяців тому +168

      Ahriman just makes the Rubrics emphatically enact his death:
      'Scream in terror for me ruuuubriiiiccs!'

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 8 місяців тому +78

      But does he have his library card?@@koolunit

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit 8 місяців тому +13

      @@alexandermackie7621 bro yes! Hope he doesnt get in after all this time, with Magnus being there with Karstodes..

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 8 місяців тому +5

      Same, same. Here's to hoping that 'grot in a bag' of a god manages to keep him out for longer.@@koolunit

    • @GoDSkRiLLa69
      @GoDSkRiLLa69 8 місяців тому

      It's been revoked for obvious reasons@@alexandermackie7621

  • @christiancowles9436
    @christiancowles9436 8 місяців тому +323

    I just noticed that Ahriman is the only one without a specific overpowered buff from their patron, and I think the only one who has never needed to be revived by their patron.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 8 місяців тому +71

      He is just overpowered on his own cause he is actually smart

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 8 місяців тому +65

      Tbf he gets into the least amount of fights and he has the best skills to be able to just escape them, if any of the other 3 are overwhelmed they don't have much of an option besides to keep fighting

    • @shadowborn1456
      @shadowborn1456 5 місяців тому +8

      my knowledge is my power
      Ahzek Ahriman

    • @SnortThatLine
      @SnortThatLine 2 дні тому +2

      He really doesn't need a buff. I just finished reading Ahriman's Exile and the guy just slaps everyone he meets. Even people who seem to best him for a moment are suddenly dunked on cause Ahriman remembers his skills. Dude can actually melee fight top tier people cause he enhances himself with the warp during fights. Guy is faster, can read your moves before you think them and has almost limitless control of the warp.

    • @shadowgod1797
      @shadowgod1797 2 дні тому

      @@SnortThatLine That's ma boy Ahriman for you , glad you enjoyed the novel buddy

  • @arionofotherworld
    @arionofotherworld 8 місяців тому +347

    Kharn and Ahriman are my favourites, they just seem more likeable than the other two.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 8 місяців тому +40

      Kharn won’t brutalize you, Ahriman will just use you, hopefully you survive but at the end of the day he doesn’t really give a shit.

    • @deevan1415
      @deevan1415 8 місяців тому +9

      Helluva guy that Kharn!

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 8 місяців тому +45

      Ahriman's that one 'distinguished' uncle who owns a shit ton of property
      Kharns' the fun uncle who lets you build DIY firweorks then explode them

    • @rustkarl
      @rustkarl 8 місяців тому +27

      The other two went out of their way to be right dickheads,
      Khârn and Ahriman kind of lost themselves to it over time and desperation.

    • @GoatyBoatyBH414
      @GoatyBoatyBH414 8 місяців тому +12

      @Phendranaguardian Fabius submitting to Slaanesh is improbable as he is a man of science. If only they had gone with someone like Julius Kaesoron Or Eidolon from the get go.

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 8 місяців тому +728

    I love the fact that the traitor Primarchs aren’t even the actual champions of the chaos gods

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 8 місяців тому +122

      😂 they are the big daddy tools that get unleashed ...but the champions the most entertaining, or in alignment with their deity. XD Slaanesh might want a do over tho, because Lucius is a punk compared to the rest.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 8 місяців тому +39

      As the man says, what’s the use of a primarch as a champion if they can’t be in the mortal realm at all times. Gotta be there to be used lol
      Edit: though now they’re part of the greater game between themes and ideas so…eh I’m sure to them it’s the same thing on a different scale

    • @lokensicarius9347
      @lokensicarius9347 8 місяців тому +32

      @@TheFatalcrest He's trying but fabulous Bile keeps send her/he/it a restraining order

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 8 місяців тому +21

      @@lokensicarius9347 xD just constantly left on read and wonders if Fabius forgot to save their phone number

    • @NastyFool7
      @NastyFool7 8 місяців тому

      They can't be right, because they're not mortals? Most alive traitor primarchs are also demon princes- who are not mortal

  • @izstan
    @izstan 8 місяців тому +158

    Kharn, Typhus & Lucius are all killing machines in their own right, but against Ahriman, they'd be bringing knives to a nuclear warhead fight. The only way Ahriman loses is if he's somehow forced into melee combat.

    • @dr.stronk9857
      @dr.stronk9857 8 місяців тому +40

      Yeah Ahriman is crazy op, I remember a story of a sorcerer coming after Ahriman and when he finally gets to him Ahriman just thanos snaps him and moves on. Scary.

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 8 місяців тому +4

      @@dr.stronk9857that was Amon, correct?

    • @crimsonconquestcustoms2584
      @crimsonconquestcustoms2584 7 місяців тому

      Isn't Kharn immune to phykers?

    • @Fast85FoxGT
      @Fast85FoxGT 7 місяців тому

      ​Or when Amon sent 2 sorcerers to bring Ahriman to him when he was hiding with some loose warband chais group under a different name and whne the other Tson's find him he just bodies the entire room to escape it. Ahriman is badass. ​@@dr.stronk9857

    • @noplease2608
      @noplease2608 5 місяців тому +6

      @@louisnall3102 No I think he is referring to tolbek, ahriman literally just steps on his chest and thanos snaps him out of existence while doing it to everyone else in the room other than maroth who he mind fucks in the background. Ahriman had "somewhat" a hard time fighting amon, but considering ahriman was literally wearing nothing but a robe while fighting amon who was in full power armor I guess technically yea he snapped him out of existence as well.

  • @bodricthered
    @bodricthered 8 місяців тому +234

    Ahriman. By a huge massive stinking great mile, the rest are combat hardcore but he's able to do mindganks on them from a thousand miles away before they even see it coming, he's able to make them think they won and turn them into his puppets...

    • @littlejohn8435
      @littlejohn8435 8 місяців тому +43

      Ahriman would win but not without Tzeentch giving him the greatest humiliation of his life: Tzeentch helping him.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 8 місяців тому +19

      Kharn is immune to magic
      Ahriman has a Bolt Pistol

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 8 місяців тому +34

      @@christiandauz3742I’m not sure if he’s totally immune or just highly resistant, but I mean, if you throw a rock at the speed of light with magic, that’s still under the effects of real world physics lol not like if you just hit them with magic

    • @Arghishable
      @Arghishable 8 місяців тому +21

      ​@@christiandauz3742
      He's not fully immune to psychic attacks, it's just he's very resilient / nullify a lot of lower tier psykers power when they are targetting him specifically. It's not an aura like the blanks, it doesn't affect terrain, allies or anything beside his body and mind
      This means 2 things :
      1) With enough raw power, his protection can be of no effect / reduced effect.
      Even if you don't agree with this, if you can argue Kharn is Khorn favorite and is protected against all psykers, I can argue Ahriman is Tzeentch favorite and so can be so powerfull he can match Kharn protection to a degree where it's not immunity anymore
      Kharn is not a blank, his psychic protection is by nature psychic too (i.e granted by a psychic entity from the immaterium). His soul still has a trace in the Warp, he's stil vulnerable to psychics
      2) With telekinesis, Ahriman can throw anything at Kharn and do substantial damages ; Ahriman can also protect himself indefinitely since Khorn blessing only protects Kharn from psychic attacks directed at him ; finally he can alter terrain around Kharn
      Now, if Ahriman or Kharn would win in a fight, I don't know. But it certainly is not as simple as plain magic immunity rendring Ahriman (or any other psyker) powerless, just much less of a threat even on a high power level psyker

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 8 місяців тому +10

      Khan is immune to magic, Ahriman sees him coming four days early and plants a nuke, or blows the airlock into the void, or summons a thousand warp daemons, or just walks out of eyeline, etcetc.... Brains beat brown.

  • @erathorsmash6941
    @erathorsmash6941 8 місяців тому +201

    Hey Majorkill, I think a vid on the different type of chaos corrupted space marines would be cool. (Noise marines, Khorne berserkers, Plague marines etc). Maybe a similar "which is the most powerful" style video?
    Keep up the great content!

    • @glenarthur9545
      @glenarthur9545 8 місяців тому +4

      YES PLEASE

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 8 місяців тому +5

      Noise Marines would have an edge - how are you supposed to dodge or block constant waves of destructive sound?

    • @erathorsmash6941
      @erathorsmash6941 8 місяців тому +2

      @@indrickboreale7381 I feel similar about plague marines. Bits I've read about regular humans dealing with them are completely horrifying, just a massive aura of miasma that makes you retch and feel like you're bleeding from every orifice.
      But I think noise marines are also horrifying

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 8 місяців тому +3

      Noise marines because things must always be loud. The song is eternal and everything is part of the song

    • @A407RAC
      @A407RAC 8 місяців тому

      Have you read the Gaunt series, perchance?@@erathorsmash6941

  • @kelakogreenaddict1888
    @kelakogreenaddict1888 8 місяців тому +74

    one funny ahriman feat is that he outsmarted belakor when belakor tried to take a thousand son working for ahriman away

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 3 місяці тому

      How'd he manage that?

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 3 місяці тому +2

      @@nowanimportant8887 in “Ahriman: the first Prince” when be’lakor was gonna take the thousand son (Ctesias) away- we see this conversation in a mental space, so not in the physical world. Ahriman enters the conversation and tries to stop it, Be’lakor, knowing how important ahriman is, tries to persuade him to join forces, and give allegiance to Be’lakor- he does this through various visions and sophistry. Meanwhile Ahriman and quite a few other thousand sons are doing a ritual in the physical world to basically trap Be’lakor using Ctesias as an anchor. Ahriman then says to let Ctesias go, leave us alone and answer a question. Be’lakor begrudgingly agrees, as ahriman could, with the help of the other sorcerers there and dire cost to all involved, bind be'lakor to ctesias and trap him.

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 3 місяці тому +2

      @@kelakogreenaddict1888 Damn, threatening to trap the first Daemon Prince to keep one of his brothers from falling is really cool.

  • @TenPtJackalope
    @TenPtJackalope 8 місяців тому +91

    Sharrowkyn stomping Lucius is definitely in my top 10 Horus Heresy moments.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 8 місяців тому +5

      Raven Guard was my favourite legion so knowing an awesome swordsman was out there clapping cheeks was great

    • @antonabad3494
      @antonabad3494 Місяць тому

      Lucius has so many tramp-stamps plastered all over his body ahahaha

  • @scribbles1424
    @scribbles1424 8 місяців тому +15

    Ahriman is an awesome character and actually has goals besides "I'm evil." His reaction when some of his brothers were brought back from the Flesh Change before being taken away was big. He would do anything to bring back his brothers.

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 8 місяців тому +331

    Hard to gauge, personally I feel Ahriman is packing the most power. Although Lucious’s gimmick is stupidly OP.

    • @Shadowheart181
      @Shadowheart181 8 місяців тому +79

      Ahriman kills Lucious. Lucious takes over Ahriman. Tcheench and Slaanesh go to court over custody.

    • @JABelms
      @JABelms 8 місяців тому +29

      i think that the other 3 champions have killed so much shit to the point that they won't get satisfaction from killing Lucius. Kharn would probably when he was still "normal" but the guy has since turned to the very definition of "killing machine" that the only thing that could satisfy him is killing the biggest psychers out there like Magnus and the Emperor

    • @mikewaterfield3599
      @mikewaterfield3599 8 місяців тому +5

      @@Shadowheart181 hey Kitten played a card game for custody of Magnus so why not?

    • @joshley1320
      @joshley1320 8 місяців тому +1

      Tbh kharn is probably maybe the strongest with ethier Ahriman or typhus being close second

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 8 місяців тому +9

      Lucius is hard countered by just locking him In a stasis vault.

  • @Coalition2298qy.
    @Coalition2298qy. 8 місяців тому +795

    Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a god and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult

    • @SemNome-ds1qy
      @SemNome-ds1qy 8 місяців тому +87

      Logar would be the "pope" of imperium.

    • @eriklazo5499
      @eriklazo5499 8 місяців тому +70

      Lorgars wet dream

    • @karsten_m
      @karsten_m 8 місяців тому +33

      We don't talk about "the plan". The Inquisitor will see you soon.

    • @marie-m9p
      @marie-m9p 8 місяців тому +43

      And then Lorgar leaves Chaos to finally be able to properly worship the Emperor.

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 8 місяців тому +2

      Hell yeah man!!

  • @malal4751
    @malal4751 8 місяців тому +173

    Please cover what if clonegrim returned to the setting, How'd the Imperium and primarchs react?

    • @blackrose_221
      @blackrose_221 8 місяців тому +7

      The lion would probably behead him

    • @combomaster666
      @combomaster666 8 місяців тому +3

      @@blackrose_221 Guilliman would want to that himself but probably couldn't

    • @C1umsyJester
      @C1umsyJester 8 місяців тому +6

      @@blackrose_221unless the emperor appears to him and tells him not to do it

    • @Ghost-Emperor
      @Ghost-Emperor 8 місяців тому +6

      Imagine the Blood Ravens break into Solomence to steal, find clonegrim and then sell him to the Loyalist Emperor’s Children Successors for artifacts. (The Sons of the Phoenix aren’t slick I mean come on)

    • @Toxic_Nazdan
      @Toxic_Nazdan 8 місяців тому

      i mean i wouldnt doubt it the big e would prob take all the help he could get for his sons even a clone who wants to be loyal is still a helpful tool @@C1umsyJester

  • @moneyshot6584
    @moneyshot6584 8 місяців тому +87

    Typhus actually ended up in a draw with a grey knight captain irc during an invasion on an ultramarine star fortress during the plague wars.

    • @redcellmission6841
      @redcellmission6841 8 місяців тому +22

      It wasnt a draw, Typhus lost to the captain and was forced to retreat from the Ultramarine star fortress

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 8 місяців тому +7

      @@redcellmission6841 I only say draw because we really don’t see either doing all too much, the captain didn’t prock the aegis much, nor did typhus from a psyched standpoint, he’s also a Great crusade era first captain, I don’t doubt he probably wins in a to the death scenario due to his prowess and experience but it would be close I think. Imo at least.

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 8 місяців тому +2

      That book series any good ?

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 8 місяців тому +5

      @@dwaynehicks6838 hard to say for some, but me personally I enjoyed it, lots of chaos shenanigans, nurgle demons are written with a lot of joy, believe it or not there’s not that much ultramarine content as it’s focused a lot of the primaris, nova marines, and guilliman himself still battling a lot of trauma.

    • @blizzardgaming7070
      @blizzardgaming7070 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@redcellmission6841grey knights and their plot armour, no way a captain beats the strongest champion of Nurgle.

  • @GoatyBoatyBH414
    @GoatyBoatyBH414 8 місяців тому +50

    Would love to see a video on Apothecaries.

  • @leonalchamendris4036
    @leonalchamendris4036 8 місяців тому +101

    Video idea, the warp entities used to create the primarchs were Heroic Archetypes from Old Earth legends.

    • @ВладиславСытник-ж9м
      @ВладиславСытник-ж9м 8 місяців тому +2

      Bravo👏👏👏👏

    • @usurparemagnus
      @usurparemagnus 8 місяців тому +10

      Are you saying gulliman is Julius Caesar/Augustus/Trajan getting another chance at playing intergalactic Rome 😂 I’m so down with that idea

    • @leonalchamendris4036
      @leonalchamendris4036 8 місяців тому +17

      @usurparemagnus Not only that. G-man the Roman Archetype. Sanguinius is the Vampire (Dracula/Alucard). Russ if the Beowulf archetype. The Lion is the Arthurian archetype. Vulkan is the Promethius archetype. Angron is the Templar Crusader archetype. Alpharius/Omegon were the Faceless Doppleganger. Etc etc etc. They all have a source material in the psyches of man, and those legends created the warp presences that the Emperor used.

    • @drakemccoy7491
      @drakemccoy7491 8 місяців тому +6

      I very much like this headcannon, bravo brother.

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 8 місяців тому +7

      Thats actually the best theory Ive ever heard

  • @dillonnaquin7750
    @dillonnaquin7750 8 місяців тому +21

    Video idea: which of the stealth legions is the best? Night Lords, Ravenguard, and Alpha legion are all stealthy but in different ways. So in a three way war who comes out on top?

    • @RCorvinus
      @RCorvinus 8 місяців тому +7

      Alpha Legion pretending to be Ravenguard attacking Nightlords while also pretending to be Nightlords and attacking Alpha Legion while also pretending to be Alpha Legion to attack Alpha Legion.

    • @daltonbecker4494
      @daltonbecker4494 8 місяців тому +4

      Probably Raven Guard. They would be the most pragmatic about it.

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 5 місяців тому +1

      The Alpha Legion would hurt themselves from trying to act smart, the Nightlords are all insane, Raven Guard would actually be coordinated and adapt to changing tactics.

  • @bluelegend2798
    @bluelegend2798 8 місяців тому +25

    My bets on ahraman. Don't know how to spell it but it's tzeench it probably changes every few minutes

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 8 місяців тому +2

      His feats are crazy. I don't really see anyone beating him.

  • @poisonking
    @poisonking 5 місяців тому +11

    The image of Kharn running after Ahriman round and round an arena trying to catch him is fucking hilarious

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 5 місяців тому +3

      “COME DOWN HERE AND FIGHT ME!”
      “Come up and make me skull boy.”

    • @alucardlord4876
      @alucardlord4876 24 дні тому

      Actually kharn could just use an enhanced jetpack to reach ahriman
      Then once he's close to ahriman, we know the next scene

  • @Stitched_up
    @Stitched_up 8 місяців тому +43

    I feel like if Chaos was more unified these four could be the 40k version of the four horsemen

    • @Warfather17
      @Warfather17 8 місяців тому +10

      True and that would be pretty cool to see in animation

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 Місяць тому +1

      That would be terrifying ngl

    • @theredfangva
      @theredfangva 17 днів тому

      Kharn: War
      Lucius: Death
      Ahriman: Drought
      Typhus: Pestilence

    • @richardch.4356
      @richardch.4356 9 днів тому

      I think death would fit typhus more especially since he uses a scythe

    • @theredfangva
      @theredfangva 9 днів тому

      @@richardch.4356 ...He literally serves the God of disease.

  • @matThaHatter
    @matThaHatter 8 місяців тому +8

    Love it and completely agree.
    On a side note, Ahrimans strengths have always been the esoteric. And yes, we've seen him lose melee fights, but mostly to experts like Sanakht (who beat Lucius). But in the Thousand Sons novel he chastised his peers, saying, "One day we'll have to fight as mere Astartes," so I'm sure he keeps his martial skills honed. (At least as much as possible when you wield a shephards crook lmao😂

  • @alfiewaller3978
    @alfiewaller3978 8 місяців тому +14

    Majorkill, can you please do a tier list on the performance of each primarch during the Horus Heresy

  • @matejjurcevic7122
    @matejjurcevic7122 8 місяців тому +30

    We know about the Horus Heresy and the Badab war, but are there any more civil wars? Did loyalists ever fight other loyalists on other occasions? Or does infighting happen quite often? Interesting topic I think

    • @kingofwar7202
      @kingofwar7202 8 місяців тому +3

      Goge Vandire's Reign of Blood was kinda

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 8 місяців тому +7

      The Mechanicus had a civil war in M35.

    • @mrvex6695
      @mrvex6695 8 місяців тому +6

      Kronus Crusade and Kauravan Crusade (From Dawn of War games, which are canon and so are Blood Ravens), where Space Marines, Sisters of Battle (Kaurava system only) and Imperial Guard fought against each other
      its stupid, but not as suprising in 40k universe where conflicting orders and internal strife and corruption is omnipresent

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 8 місяців тому

      @@mrvex6695I replayed dow 1 recently as space marines and when I faced imperial guard and sisters I was like “wait… arent we supposed to be together ?” Just typical warhammer stuff lmao

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 8 місяців тому

      Don’t forget the months of shame

  • @JoseTheKraken
    @JoseTheKraken 8 місяців тому +11

    11:13 I think he would love that though

  • @sasanahadian2859
    @sasanahadian2859 8 місяців тому +11

    Superb video as always @majorkill.
    Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc

  • @GoDSkRiLLa69
    @GoDSkRiLLa69 8 місяців тому +6

    Ahriman is the G.O.A.T. One of the best characters pre/heresy and still getting up to absolute shenanigans. I always thought Lucius being a punching bag was super fitting, in all the disgusting ways you can imagine.
    Typed this out towards the intros for the champions, 100% agree obviously. All is dust.

  • @wiktorsierakowski1022
    @wiktorsierakowski1022 8 місяців тому +20

    Video idea: who would win the battle between Lion and Sanguinius, both having their legions at full strength

    • @icebreaker5138
      @icebreaker5138 8 місяців тому +7

      The lion since at the time they had a very wide arsenal during the heresy. Straight up illegal stuff. But in a duel my money is on sangy

    • @MrFallenone
      @MrFallenone 8 місяців тому +2

      @@icebreaker5138 Is it tho? Is your money on Sangy? Because I would put my money on the Lion for sure. He beat Angron as an old man. He beat Curze after Sangy let him flee because they could not land a hit on each other due to their foresight gift. Horus was uncomfortable around the Lion during the Great Crusade. The Lion has 1v1 fighting warp hack powers.

    • @eeyun5279
      @eeyun5279 8 місяців тому +5

      ⁠@@MrFallenoneHorus was outright fearful of sanguinius. And sang has the best 1v1 record of pretty much anyone except the emperor. Also demon angron is basically a jobber
      To add: leman thought the only two primarchs he might have trouble with were Horus and sanguinius, so there’s that

    • @wiktorsierakowski1022
      @wiktorsierakowski1022 8 місяців тому

      @@eeyun5279 I am not sure, but I think that Angron was even more empowered by Khorne during his duel with Lion, so it should be taken into account

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MrFallenoneAll true but isnt it confirmed in the latest book that Sanguinius is the strongest primarch in combat ? (Duels and battles)

  • @centermassgamer323
    @centermassgamer323 8 місяців тому +5

    Video idea, what if each loyalist primarch was sent to arrest Magnus? So instead of Russ it was Dorn or the Lion ect. Was there a loyalist that Magnus respected enough to actually talk to? Could one of them potentially brought him back to Tera?

  • @winterknight4307
    @winterknight4307 8 місяців тому +7

    Absolutely love the new ser up in the background, awesome!

  • @teobratuteodor1728
    @teobratuteodor1728 8 місяців тому +12

    Ahriman could also turn the ground in quick sand, make the gravity too strong or too weak for Kharn to move, jamm his weapons and it can also boost his strenght and durability to is a master biomancer and also have divination and diviners are described in the canonn as "unbeatable in combat" for obvious reasons how Konrad Curst was also having divination.

    • @Tortle-Man
      @Tortle-Man 8 місяців тому +5

      I don’t think it would work. Khorne’s blessing don’t just protect spell cast against you, they also stop magic around you generally, to keep your fights fair. So I think any magic against him just wouldn’t work.

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Tortle-Man in this fight no one have their god to give them extra protection what mean to Kharn will still resist but it will still be affected just less than others and the envirement around him will not be protected.

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 8 місяців тому

      @@Tortle-Manis there any evidence that magic around Kharn doesn’t work? Flesh hounds’ being immune to psychic powers only happens on contacts, as the psychic power just gets siphoned off into the warp (happens in the ahriman omnibus)

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 Місяць тому

      In melee Kharn wins anyway, he's too OP

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 Місяць тому +2

      @@optimusvine5672 that's the thing, each one of them to use their advantages Kharn his melee skills, Lucius his agility, Typhus his endurance and Ahriman his versatility and intelect to let's be honest magic is the definition of versatility and you need to be smart use it and find creative usess.

  • @darrenengel2707
    @darrenengel2707 8 місяців тому +2

    I am always greatful for your videos ..I struggle to find motivation on what to paint next and your lore videos really help my process ...I thank you MajorKill , your videos and overall vibe is what we all need ❤

  • @redalpha7284
    @redalpha7284 8 місяців тому +7

    Hey MajorKill, so when are making a video about the centurion power armor and it's variants?

    • @dragonrider1736
      @dragonrider1736 8 місяців тому

      Man, I always forget about the centurion armor class.

  • @alanolex3962
    @alanolex3962 8 місяців тому +7

    Little thing to potentially make you hate Lucius even more, and spoilers for The Crimson King.
    Lucius is the reason that the Rubric of Ahriman went wrong, when he told a Thousand Sons Sorcerer named Hathor Ma'at to alter the spell in the book of Magnus in return for the knowledge of how to transfer his mutations onto human serfs, effectively keeping the flesh change from overtaking him.

  • @nateinky01
    @nateinky01 8 місяців тому +9

    What would happen if the old heros and villains were replaced, not all at once but over time, would the setting still be just as good?

  • @R-YR29
    @R-YR29 8 місяців тому +5

    PLEASE do a video covering the new lore regarding the Emporer & Horus !!!

  • @Definitely_Dave
    @Definitely_Dave 8 місяців тому +7

    To be a Lucius fan is to be in a constant state of pain.

    • @dukedevlan5457
      @dukedevlan5457 6 місяців тому +1

      Isn't that not slannesh in a nutshell

  • @vaderbean1
    @vaderbean1 8 місяців тому +5

    0:35 whats that about looking at their feet??

  • @finnh7542
    @finnh7542 8 місяців тому +1

    good lordy this new lighting setup is like a 100x better. nice work majorkill!

  • @loaf6700
    @loaf6700 7 місяців тому +2

    Heres how the 4 way battle would go.
    3 warriors enter an arena. Notice I said 3 and not 4. Kharn, who refuses to put down his axes, cant open the door and gets pissed and goes the opposite direction.
    Ahriman quickly pulls out a book of spells but quickly realizes its the wrong book. Tzeentch swapped his spellbook for a cookbook because it would be really funny. He claims he'll be "right back".
    Lucius leaps at Typhus and unleashes a flurry of strikes but all they do is tickle Typhus' fat belly. In the melee, Lucius accidently swallows one of the flies following Typhus and begins to choke. Typhus attempts the heimlich maneuver but accidently snaps Lucius spine which paralyzes him.
    Typhus wins but hes so fat he actually couldnt see what was going on so he has no idea there even was a fight.
    Kharn found the door operator and killed him.
    Arhiman actually enjoyed the cookbook and started vox channel about cooking.
    Lucius was wheelchair bound and everyone actually pittied him until it turns out he was faking it the whole time.

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 8 місяців тому +1

    You know a lot of the time when you do these things I can't agree but this time I think you nailed it
    I put them into tiers with kharn and Ahriman tier 1 typhus tier 2 and Lucius tier 14

  • @legio-IV-Cataphract
    @legio-IV-Cataphract 8 місяців тому +3

    A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

  • @epigoneofchaos4975
    @epigoneofchaos4975 8 місяців тому +4

    Suggestion : Best homebrew space marine chapters

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction 8 місяців тому +2

    Increase the volume a bit and add some more overall and front lit light to the setup. Great work, keep it up, you bamf

  • @thepeterwan
    @thepeterwan 8 місяців тому +1

    I am agree with your comparisons, about who wins is well described but of course depends of the nature of the scenario and many other things as well. Anyways pretty well described these characters are really well written each of them and like them all , but my favorite are Arhiman because he knows a lot and he can be used to bring context as was did in the last novels. Also his background and power is amazingly useful anytime.

  • @InquisitorJoshua
    @InquisitorJoshua 8 місяців тому +3

    Nothing more enjoyable than a character that loves themselves too much.

  • @waren1x
    @waren1x 8 місяців тому +1

    Love the new set up bro, keep up the great vids coming!

  • @Vantud391
    @Vantud391 8 місяців тому +1

    After watching The Exodite animated series, I'm curious about Tau Navy. Please make a video about them, their strategy and battles they fought against Imperium Navy.

  • @kyleshurmur-dg3kq
    @kyleshurmur-dg3kq 5 місяців тому

    Crack me up every time I watch Ur vids man started getting into Warhammer recently so find Ur vids helpful keep the good work up geeza

  • @Historyfrek4ever
    @Historyfrek4ever 8 місяців тому +1

    Kharn would only notice his kill count go up by one when he mulches Lucius.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 5 місяців тому +2

    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULLTHRONE!!!

  • @RogueVindicare
    @RogueVindicare 8 місяців тому +23

    One thing about Lucius is that the reason he dies so much is because he has to make every single battle a performance and kill his enemy in the most spectacular way possible to entertain Slaanesh and because he just loves fighting and dragging fights out for the experience of it which can get him killed quite a lot from carelessness. It's been shown before that at least in 40k when he's fighting to win he's by far one of the most skilled fighters in the galaxy and definitely a better duellist than Kharn and many other Imperial Champions. I kind of like Lucius' arrogant, prideful personality and as a character I don't think you're supposed to take him seriously as he himself hardly takes anything in the galaxy seriously since it's just one big adventure for him.

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 8 місяців тому +5

      True, by giving the writters a guy that can be "killed at will" they make him look weak. On top of this, in the tabletop game he never was quite optimal as a model.
      Yet, once you read the books (especially in40k), you realize how insane Lucius is. There are some fucked up situations in wich the CSM are like "omg we can't win this !Oh...wait ! Lucius has his sword, let's charge this fortress ! we are 11+Lucius, we like those odds."

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 8 місяців тому +2

      Eh, I don't think anynone in the setting besides a Primarch and a couple of Custodians can win against Kharn in melee. The man could tear a hive tyrant to pieces in less than a minute

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 8 місяців тому +2

      @@claytonthegrubkiller6430
      Well, Sigismund managed to do it. Therefore Sevatar would have had a chance to beat him too.
      Abaddon could, most certainly, beat him. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marneus Calgar beat Khârn, since he gave Abaddon some hard time.
      I wouldn't even be surprised to have some Blood Angels or Space wolves able to do the same.
      Nassir Amit fought in a Sanguis Extremis dual against Kharn, and it was a draw. I won't mention Valdor for obvious reasons but I'm pretty sure that more than a couple of Custodes would have a decent chance.
      Sadly Hive tyrants are somewhat like the Avatar of Khaine on that matter, they are terrifying, indeed. Yet almost every character managed to beat one or the other at some point.
      The autors don't give them justice.
      And remember, even in the books, we know that these 4 champions are monsters, blessed by the four and famous. Yet they might not even be the best chaos champions. (except Typhus for Nurgle since he is his official Herald, even Mortarion can't really command him.)
      Khârn is a beast, yes, among the bests, true.But don't overestimate the guy too much.
      I maintain : Lucius have a decent chance to win against Khârn. Lucius have basically spent the last 10k years almost exclusively chasing the most powerfull opponents he could find like a maniac, while Khârn jumped from a battlefield to another. Should they meet in a dual, I seriously doubt the fight would be as one sided as you suggest.

  • @TheBoneZone40k
    @TheBoneZone40k 8 місяців тому +1

    Nah, this all tracks
    Typhus in Dark Imperium: Plague War got pushed back and technically "beaten" by a mixture of Nova Marine terminators and Grey Knights. With the Grey Knights keeping the worst of the warp born diseases from harming anyone fighting typhus until he used his psychic bullshittery.
    Ahirman is as powerful as at least like 10 unnamed Grey Knights so it makes sense.

  • @andrewgeldmacher4765
    @andrewgeldmacher4765 8 місяців тому +1

    How come no one ever mentions Saul Tarvitz when talking about Lucius most satisfying defeats. It’s one of my favorite moments of the entire heresy.

  • @crilleedara
    @crilleedara 8 місяців тому +4

    Nice video idea, never getting tired of a good ol' "Fuck Lucius"! 😎

  • @patrickstar1-f9o
    @patrickstar1-f9o 8 місяців тому +2

    Video idea: Blood Pact explained.

  • @brickphone8069
    @brickphone8069 8 місяців тому +1

    Doesn’t Typhus also have like a weird warp bug colony inside him that attack people for him as well as being the only chaos champion in Terminator plate, I think he’s got a good chance at taking it though that depends on if the warp bugs attacks count as psychic attacks, and also if Ahriman has the power to disintegrate Typhus or not

  • @smokey417
    @smokey417 7 місяців тому +1

    People tend to forget that Khârn actually have a gun. A Plasma gun he usualy uses when he is still out of melee range of his enemies. I think in the Ahriman vs Kharn duel, Khârn would just keep fire Plasma at Ahriman's disc until the fucker fell off his his protection fails and he is forced to the ground to wich he would be butchered.

  • @amongusgaming123
    @amongusgaming123 8 місяців тому +1

    Idea: What happened to the non-space marine traitors like Guardsmen, Titans and Knight houses?

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 8 місяців тому

    Agreed. Kind of funny that the list of favourites is the same as the rankings in a duel.

  • @smoothtrooper781
    @smoothtrooper781 8 місяців тому +1

    Kharn has some protection against direct pysker abilities, but that wouldnt stop Ahriman from just throwing an entire baneblade or some shit at his forehead

  • @xanmontes8715
    @xanmontes8715 7 місяців тому +2

    So all we need is a necron warrior to kill Lucius...?

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking 8 місяців тому +2

    Isn't Ahriman also one of the only psykers that can destroy souls with his power?
    I remember hearing that, and typically thats something that requires a shitton of psychic might to be able to pull off as in lore there haven't been many who can do it.

  • @Hexados-666
    @Hexados-666 2 дні тому

    Ahrimans weakness is forgetting his library card

  • @loveblues9633
    @loveblues9633 8 місяців тому +2

    I love typhus and kharn but the powers of the emperor n malcador really shows us that sorcery is extremely overpowered n he is probably the most powerful because of it, being able to destroy a planet and change reality through the warp is insane.

  • @Masquerademasque
    @Masquerademasque 8 місяців тому

    mateeee lighting is looking good! well done

  • @malathar117
    @malathar117 8 місяців тому

    A "what would happen" video on if corax managed to successfully rebuild his legion legion before the invasion of terra would be an interesting video

  • @withlovefromlightindust591
    @withlovefromlightindust591 8 місяців тому

    Hello Majorkill,
    Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.

  • @JustinTheMid
    @JustinTheMid 8 місяців тому

    Video idea: what is the strongest foot soldier in the galaxy? Custodes? Harlequins? Armigers? Necrons? It seems interesting comparing their canon power levels.

  • @dinocha0s
    @dinocha0s 7 місяців тому +2

    I mean they are all stupidly powerful, im not sure how normal Imperial soldiers and even regular space marines are going to take them down even without plot armor
    -Lucious and his stupid losing ability
    -Kharn being evil immortal doomguy
    -Typhus who controls a trillion flies and demonic plagues that turn entire planets to zombies while being tanky AF
    -OR Mr Ahriman the guy who soloed an entire eldar strike force by turning half of them harmless animals with a snap of his finger and then killing them and the using lightning bolts/fire/all sorts of magic bs to kill the other half
    I think they would win a large portion of death battles with characters from other universes

  • @Goyimdemduc
    @Goyimdemduc 8 місяців тому

    Man i just know when majorkill uploads it's gonne be a great fkn time

  • @mandke23
    @mandke23 8 місяців тому

    Video on every chaos faction war/battles such as khorne vs nurgle etc

  • @alexr.5389
    @alexr.5389 8 місяців тому

    I personally LOVE Lucius, he is hilarious and he is constantly trying to find his way to the spotlight and finding out he's just the most powerful pawn around.

  • @michaelfain6866
    @michaelfain6866 8 місяців тому

    A video where you talk about what the primarchs would be like if they all reached their full potential would be cool

  • @cringelord1809
    @cringelord1809 8 місяців тому +1

    Ah, some nice Ahriman appreciation is always welcome

  • @anthraxcrab2222
    @anthraxcrab2222 8 місяців тому +1

    Vid idea what if the emp ( maybe sanguinius too) kneeled to horus at the end of the heresy

  • @BrandonBailey-jb5hh
    @BrandonBailey-jb5hh 8 місяців тому

    Typhus did get badly wounded on the nova marines space station (Galatan) by a grey night champion and had to retreat.
    He had previously killed the nova marines chapter master

  • @MarekRodUltrarunner
    @MarekRodUltrarunner 8 місяців тому

    Typhus also has a beautiful voice for narating stories, you have to count that in.

  • @krisross8663
    @krisross8663 8 місяців тому +1

    Will you ever make a video of you playing Darktide or a stream of playing Darktide?

  • @Alcoholfreebeer
    @Alcoholfreebeer 8 місяців тому

    A video on the Plague Wars would be nice.

  • @moncey1120
    @moncey1120 8 місяців тому +1

    Can you do a video about the greatest marine of each gene line

  • @justinanderson2460
    @justinanderson2460 8 місяців тому

    This is pretty solid as far as analysis goes. Kharn is completely immune to Psyker powers thanks to Khorne so no amount of blasting from Ahriman is gonna do anything to Kharn. The question is 2-fold:
    1) Would Kharn's immunity to warp powers also prevent Ahriman from using his precognition to against Khorne's champion in combat. if yes, then Ahriman has significantly lower chances of winning because Kharn only needs to surprise him once and get an advantage for a second to get into combat and slaughter him.
    2) Would be if Ahriman could work out a way to use his powers indirectly to kill/defeat Kharn before Kharn managed to surprise him and/or get the advantage he needs to get in close and seal the deal. Even then, Ahriman can just teleport away pretty much on a whim so realistically, even IF Kharn gets in a lucky hit or manages to somehow close the distance, he would need to be on Ahriman immediately and push him as hard as possible to stop the sorcerer from focusing enough to bring his magiks to bear properly/in full force - much like the Eldar Shadowseer did.
    So really, it is up for debate and again, as Majorkill mentioned, it would be hardly surprising to see Kharn edge out a victory here but the fact it relies more on context than Ahriman taking the win - who simply has higher chances over all due to versatility, range and hax - leads me to lean a little towards Ahriman in a very close duel.
    Typhus IS a contender and definitely the best all rounder but he just falls short against either of these 2 for the reasons already mentioned.
    His sorcery can't compete with Ahriman and he's be overwhelmed without being able to bring any of his palgues to bear and Ahriman could easily enough remain at a distance to avoid a melee fight if he so chose. Meanwhile, Kharn would be immune to Typhus warp plagues in copmbat end even if this was not the case, he could and would be capable of taking Typhus apart before the latter could take him down with plagues anyway.
    Lucius is straight trash.

  • @DjamTG12345
    @DjamTG12345 8 місяців тому

    It would be sick to see this fight animated

  • @Michealadolfjackson25
    @Michealadolfjackson25 8 місяців тому +1

    God damn the lighting has gotten so much better its insane

  • @gwilym1991
    @gwilym1991 8 місяців тому

    Two quick points that should get a mention. Ahriman would definitely best Typhus as a sorceror because he knows a fuck ton of Nurgle sorcery, i think due to his staff somehow absorbing the knowledge of a nurgle sorceror.
    Kharn though i think actively negates sorcery to an extent rather than just being resistant to it. Much as i love Ahriman, Kharn may stand a better chance than initially thought.

  • @joshualutes6536
    @joshualutes6536 8 місяців тому

    I love your videos Majorkill and this one made my day by your insane ability to get me hyped for all these legendary characters in 40k. I hope you have a great day and Lucius the eternal is the greatest to ever exist 👍

  • @Zenphoshen
    @Zenphoshen 8 місяців тому

    Two Giga Chads duking it out at the end sounds about right haha.
    Essentially just a huge version of Red vs Blue.
    Pretty much how I would guess it would/could go. Kharn would plow through both Lucius and Typhus. Ahriman would do the same but when its down Ahriman and Kharn, this is a genuine toss up as either side could legitimately win.
    I will say I like both Ahriman and Kharn a whole lot more then the other two. When they show up its just a fun time reading them.

  • @mechanicobra
    @mechanicobra 8 місяців тому

    Now I kinda want a Battle at Zanbaijin style short story in 40K of these four going head to head with their warbands for the amusement of their gods.

  • @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
    @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 8 місяців тому

    LOL 3:54 Describing how I play Darktide as a Zealot :P

  • @Pateddyo
    @Pateddyo 8 місяців тому

    Even tho I’d love an asmodai lore vid I just had a mad thought :did malcador keep secret from the emperor and vice Versa and did it effect the heresy

  • @xv9021
    @xv9021 8 місяців тому

    Slight lore issue. The rubric oh ahriman was already conceived of by tzeencht who made a small change inside of the book well in advance of the rubric so the rubric would not work as intended. It was in one of the thousand son heresy books.

  • @AntiNubDevice
    @AntiNubDevice 4 місяці тому

    Anyone else in on the idea of Lucius, Kharn, and Typhus just ganging up to kill the big psyker, then just having at it in a melee brawl?

  • @whitlermountain7198
    @whitlermountain7198 8 місяців тому

    love the new lighting/audio bugga

  • @secondarytrollaccount666
    @secondarytrollaccount666 8 місяців тому

    From the hammer and bolter episode " the eternal" dude got bodied by a couple exorcists. No way hes beating kharne, arhiman, or typhus while hes busy getting clapped by skilled but non chaos infused astartes. Didnt even get killed by the chapter master either just a squad of marines while he had a squad of emperors children with him as well.

  • @markgresch9944
    @markgresch9944 8 місяців тому

    I figure a fight involving Lucious and Arhiman results in somehow Arhiman sending Lucious to the Labyrinth of Tzeench and being like "I'm not falling for your reincarnation bullshit, and Tzeench has far too much intrest it me to just let the Labrynth kill you, so I may as well use what will likely be my far worse fate than killing you."

  • @griffionwyvrus9063
    @griffionwyvrus9063 8 місяців тому

    Day 1: Asking Majorkill to make a video for each members of Malcador's Knight Errants.

  • @grayrook8637
    @grayrook8637 8 місяців тому

    Been a while since he did a death match video. I want one on the Pheonix Lord's and why it's probably Maghan Ra.

  • @orangesodaninja8882
    @orangesodaninja8882 8 місяців тому

    Can you do a video on the primarch’s fighting styles?

  • @wilhelmpetzold6904
    @wilhelmpetzold6904 8 місяців тому

    5:48 reminds me of:
    "Is guilliman the greatest primarch?"
    "He isn´t even the greatest Ultramarine"