A Plague Tale Requiem: A Stunning Tech Showcase on PS5/Xbox Series X/S - DF Tech Review
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- A sequel built just for PC and the new generation of consoles, A Plague Tale Requiem makes a strong case for dedicated development on PS5 and Xbox Series hardware. The visual upgrade on the original game, Innocence, is often stunning - with the caveat being that developer Asobo Studio doesn't offer a 60fps performance mode, concentrating on a 30fps target. Tom checks out its delivery on all three machines, and also the discrete 40fps mode when outputting at 120Hz.
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I think it’s nuts that Asobo Studios has been around since 2002. Granted, they came out with a lot of random franchise games like Monopoly but to see them make a huge jump to single-player action driven games with beautiful graphic engine is fantastic. Hope more companies follow suit because I love my narrative single player games.
all thanks to xbox game pass that boasted thier games
@@user-xg6tv5hl6s Yeah I’m not gonna lie but I never would’ve played requiem if not for Game Pass.
I ended up giving the first game a try based on Jim Sterlling's opinion on it. Ended up loving it. Would have bought requiem no doubt. But getting on PC gamepass day 1 (and pre loading) was quite nice.
@@user-xg6tv5hl6s yup i would of never experienced the first game. if it wasnt for gamepass.
and i absolutely loved the first game.
Flight Sim had to help
Game has incredible art direction. I found myself stopping a lot just to take in the way the game looks
Not many games can do that rdr2 and ghost of Tsushima are up there aswell
Same here especially "the Hugo at the beach" part, when he follows the phoenix omg ! 🔥🔥🔥
Literally up there with the Sony's first-party title technically and it's cross-platform?? Asobo Studio is outdoing themselves once again😆
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Only a matter of time till Microsoft gobbles them up. They develop Flight Sim, Requiem is a day 1 Gamepass title, signs are there.
@@HeloisGevit It's a pattern, for sure!
We really need a Rats Per Second graph for this game to truly measure performance
Between these two Requiem games and Flight Simulator 2020 Asobo have shown they deserve to be put up with the top AAA developers in the business today.
@Stirteenth Thep tell me you're a fanboy without telling me you're a fanboy.
@Stirteenth Thep Asobo is an independent studio, they are not owned by Microsoft so your point is mute.
I had no issue reading the first comment, and I certainly have no issue with thinking independently. My comment was aimed at your stupid point about Sony first party studios being better than Microsoft. How is that even relevant when we are talking about a game made by an independent studio that is multi platform?
Cap
@@bankaispirits Your comment is kind of pure fanboism...!
This is a stunning looking game. As far as realistic environments goes, I believe this is the game to beat. The amount of detail and depth in just about every surface is incredible. I'm several hours in now and I've had to pick my jaw up off the floor dozens of times already. I can't wait for the RT update and anything Asobo does next.
model and shader quality are vastly improved, but I think the biggest boost is a relatively small thing: the animated foliage in the trees: the environment seem just so much more alive that way.
@@maximeteppe7627 I'm most impressed by the parallax mapping and geometric detail on nearly every wall and floor. Combined with the sheer scale of these maps, it's super impressive.
@@phrozac true, I don't think I've heard of a recent game using parallax occlusion mapping in a widespread fashion. do they use it as their default way to fake additional geometry?
@@maximeteppe7627 Not sure if it's default, but I see it on almost every wall. It's well done, not subtle, and very convincing. There are times that I'm sure I'm seeing geometry but check anyway and sure enough, it's parallax mapping.
It beats out the remake of The Last of Us in my opinion.
The game was great. I'm a big shooter and AAA story guy. But the writing and acting was great. And the different scenery and how well they were done was both distracting(wanting to look at everything) and engaging(wanting to look at everything). I can't really callback any issues I had with it. And the emotion of the game was very well conveyed thanks to great voice acting.
I started playing over the weekend, and the acting stood out. The VA and writing carries enough weight that, as a father of a 4 yo, there was at least one moment listening to Hugo cry out for help that I paused the game and took a moment to appreciate my little one sleeping safe and sound in our home.
@@prezidenttrump5171 😂😂😂 I can see why it would be above you.
@@attemptityourself5662 Hahahaha, concidering alomost anything Trumpinockio says is a lie he actually likes the writing, it's true.
Just superficial graphics, With no Substance you have blind deaf and dumb ai from two decades ago, linear gameplay. Dumb vapid money grab game. Graphics are a cheap Sell that lines devs and hardware companies pockets
@@roknroller6052 Whatever the fuck you say lol....A Plague Tale absolutely destroys ANY game that Naught Dog has ever released. And that's just simply a fact!
Finished the game and it’s visually stunning. You notice the 30fps with fast camera movement. But I always play with the quality/resolution/RT option selected, so I didn’t care. I got it with GamePass… so I’m pretty happy about that too. Next, God of War: Ragnarok 😍
Nice to see you here.
there is no performance option
@@supermysticsonic2 What he's trying to say is that he prefers the fidelity mode in games that offer a performance mode at the expense of image quality.
@@supermysticsonic2 theres the 40fps option if your tv supports it. Makes the game feel/look so much better than 30.
Yo you need to catch more scammers
One of the years best, Asobo has been on fire lately with Flight Simulator to this, just wonderful work.
ASOBO is amazing!!!
@@dainco08 Seriously impressive, Flight Sim and A Plagues Tale are such different style of games, wonderful devs over there.
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Flight Simulator is in a league of it's own. It's not for everyone but thats what makes it really special. Playing it in VR especially is so immersive.
Finally! I really was looking forward to seeing Requiem and I'm happy that the game turned out good. PT:I was a big hit, awesome that they managed to deliver. For newcomers - the first installment can be bought cheap these days, especially on various Steam sales. It's 100% worth playing, and it should be- Requiem is a direct sequel and it won't hit as hard as it would with knowledge and experience from playing Innocence. It's great, even OST alone is worth finishing that game - it's all capital letters ART.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
If "locked to 30fps" and stutters during camera motion is "good", then sure.
@@YTMsux Talking about the game in general. Performance issues at launch are present in games made 2 people and made by 2000 people, and certainly will be smoothed out with post-launch patches.
And I have no idea what 'locking to 30 fps is', I play only on PC, so can't relate.
@@YTMsux you don’t really think 60 fps is a next gen feature do you. The PS2 had a bunch of 60 fps games, and even the N64 had some 60 fps titles. Console gamers have historically not wanted that. We still see this today as people threw fits when Guardians of The Galaxy was ‘only’ 1080p 60 in performance mode, and even complaints when people found out Returnal was 1080p upscaled to 4K. Nevermind the incessant complaints that games ‘don’t look next gen’. These console are not magic. Engine upgrades and pushing visual fidelity will outpace the hardware. PC is already 2 generations ahead of consoles just 2 years in with the release of the 4000 series cards this month and RDNA3 showcases coming in a couple weeks. Not to mention the few 60 fps titles we got last gen were met with complaints that the devs should have used the horsepower for visuals instead. Even Digital Foundry had this complaint when Rage 2 chose to release at 1080p 60 on Pro and One X versions.
While there are advancing techniques like FSR and DLSS and such, FSR 2.0 was recently made available to console devs and is why Dying Light 2 now runs at 4K 60 in Balanced Mode instead of the 1080p 60 at launch that people also complained about. So there is hope. But anyone expecting every game on console to hit 60 fps as we leave cross gen and get deeper into the gen is being unrealistic at best. These gamws are demanding even on high end PC’s and PC continues to be the place for performance if that is what you care about.
I do hear you and everyone else though. I vastly prefer 60 fps, but to achieve it we’d need games to basically be held back at a visual level as 60 is really expensive to hit consistently. Plague Tale can probably hit 60 in some scenes but since it can’t all the time they went with 30, as is the norm. But at least they have a 40 fps option, which is a bigger difference than you’d think. I totally understand not wanting to go back to 30. But devs are going to get complaints no matter how they do it. Casuals only care about visuals and visuals sell, so while I don’t envy them, I am realistic that as cross gen is left behind we will see more 30 fps titles. And any that are 60 will either be noticably downgraded visually, or complaints will fly as to why don’t games look like a generational leap as we get further in. Can’t have both. It is hard to go back though for sure.
The inconsistency in framerate is just unbearable. If you compare it to games like Horizon Forbidden West and God of War, it should perform at that exact range.
It looks good but it's terribly optimized.
I really hope they release a 60 frame patch sometime down the track.
When and if they do that I'll buy it until then the 30 fps cap is a no for me
Its so ez for then to do but I guess they dont want to
Maybe 900p with reduced settings
that would make it a near 10/10 for me!
"next gen" LMAO
"Well well well, we meet again Batman"
Adam West: If it isn't my arch nemesis, 30fps
yeah is a beautiful game, and its about time that we get a game tailored to the current gen. Hey Digital Foundry: I would love to see a few videos focusing on the improvements in the graphics engines over the last few years. We used to hear a lot about new features and such, but I feel my knowledge is lacking as of late. Remember reading in gaming magazines about Normal Mapping? lol its been a while for sure, but I, for one, loved reading about advances in the tech. Thank you for considering!
*and its about time that we get a game tailored to the current gen*
You said it!
@@melanitex1089 We did in 2020 called Cyberpunk, or should I say we got the beta for it in 2020
Asobo is and has always been great at making their games look way higher budget than they actually are. They're an extremely talented studio.
I just wish the performance was better. This is the perfect use case for FSR 2 in a console game (Asobo has experience using it in Flight Simulator) but not only is it not offered on PC, but it's blocked if you try to mod it in using the usual CyberFSR mod. It seems weird that they would omit such a helpful feature that would improve performance a ton on consoles and PCs without RTX GPUs, but the large Nvidia logo that pops up when you boot the game up confirms why the game doesn't have it and blocks the mod that enables it.
Probably nvidia has proprietary code embedded in the game engine to prevent competitor's feature to be applied. I mean it happened in batman AA since 13 years ago.
FSR 2.1 probably wouldn't help much here if the cpu is the bottleneck.
@@paul1979uk2000 except CPU is not the bottleneck here. It's all GPU bottleneck, so yes, FSR 2.1 in this game will help both PC and the consoles.
Maybe I got lucky but I downloaded the latest 2.1.2 CyberFSR from Nexus Mods, dropped the DLLs into the right folder, ran EnableSignatureOverride and I've played through half the game with FSR 2 enabled. Stable 1440p60 on a 1660 Ti is possible on low/med setting at Ultra Performance mode, Performance dips below 60 if staring at fire particles. Settled on locked 40 at Balanced myself. This is the Game Pass version.
@@kishaloyb.7937 Except it might be memory bandwidth given how much transparency is used for the smoke and motion blur in scenes where it tanks the most. It remains to be seen how FSR 2.1 performs when on a unified memory system where there is contention with the CPU for the RAM.
Amazing content as always guys. One thing I wished you would start focusing on is HDR presentation on all platforms especially PC since HDR can be hit or miss.
I think they don't cause it's hard to show on here realistically. HDR video on youtube on pc is a crap shoot. Plus, most people watching this on pc aren't using HDR so it would be wasted. It's the same thing with high frame rate, the underlying tech just isn't where it needs to be and it's a lot more work for little return.
But I'm with you, I'd love to see more stuff related to HDR and high frame rates too.
Nobody cares about HDR lmfao.
And I’m on high end PC we don’t care about that.
@@youtubeaccount7544 considering it's been the largest change to display technology in the last 8 years or so it's rather important. Nearly every large release has HDR so yes it does matter. If your rocking a 1080p or 1440p monitor it may not matter however a huge part of this audience is using 4K HDR on a TV with HDMI 2.1 or they wouldn't be covering the consoles at all.
I understand why they no longer upload hdr video but it was nice to see the occasional upload in hdr back when the pro consoles came out
@@listenerofrealrap they really don't have to upload in HDR though it is easy enough but at least speak on it as it completely alerts the image.
A Plague Tale Requiem was an absolute joy to play.
I beat the game twice, first playthrough on normal mode, second playthrough on new game+ which locks the difficulty to the highest one.
Man I'm telling you, you've got a heart of a worrier it's a 5th day and now I can say I'm recovered from the pain of beating this game. And you've already completed it twice
how long did it take to beat?
@@teenermeener971 The main story is 15 and a half hours long. I beat it to a 100% completion, which took me about 25+ hours
@@nikhil0021 Oh I know the game likes to hit right where it hurts emotionally. There are also some badass moments, Amicia is fierce for a 15-16 year old.
Haha, that's dedication.
Definitely a gorgeous looking game and great game overall. Can't wait for your PC analysis. I am curious as to what's causing the hitching/stutters in certain camera angles or movements, and the FPS drops at certain places/parts of the game even without much going on on-screen.
I'd guess it's related to asset streaming. If you use photo mode which lets you move the camera through walls and everything. You'll see the game loads areas in small chunks as you go through them. Just a guess though
Just superficial graphics, With no Substance you have blind deaf and dumb ai from two decades ago, linear gameplay. Fine for Kids I suppose, but there no depth or intelligent gameplay
The strange hiccups when moving the camera are actually caused when there are objects where the camera is. When it goes through objects it does that stutter. When you go anywhere in the open the hiccups are completely gone, at least on PC.
Maybe because they rendered God damn shadows in the far reaches of game universe for some stupid reasons.
The musical score in this game is fabulous. Im not even close to finish but really enjoying it. Some annoyances but its so beautiful i don't care lol.
hands down one of my favorite games of the year so far! It has a balance of horror and beauty not seen since the 1st Last of Us.
To compare this Garbage to the ‘Last of Us’ is Sacrilege lol. This game has no depth or intelligent gameplay, the characters will talk loudly feet away from AI, or walk directly in line of site, you have blind deaf and dumb ai from two decades ago, all you have in this is vapid graphical nonsenses.
Just just a Dumb money grab game. Graphics are a cheap snake oil Sell that lines devs and hardware companies pockets
@@roknroller6052 at least this game doesn't have the never ending cut scenes that naughty dog games have
@@raj121746 the cutscenes in naughty dog games are some of my favourite parts
@@raj121746 Naughty Dog cutscenes are better than most games
@@JozefLPslovakia I second this!
Being a series S owner. I must say Asobo put in the work and did wonders for this little system I applaud you.
Absolutely!! The console is a blast for a bit more than 200€ here in europe 🤝
And yet Gotham Knights dev saying Series S is to blame for everything lmao. How did this game turn out so good then?
Seriously impressive. It's a shame the presenter made it seem like the resolution tradeoff was just too much to get over. If you're on a 1080p TV I'd say it's better than the ps5 version.
@@dannonyogurt98 why buy ps5 for a 1080p tv
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha I don't know, why is not running at 60 frames either? Also, it wasn't a GK developer that said that, it was a Rocksteady developer, you know, someone behind the Arkham games and had nothing to do with GK.
Reverting to 30fps makes it look a generation behind, not ahead. The motion blur just looks horrendous as well.
This is the worst take I’ve ever heard
@@Jay05330fps is unplayable, it’s a slide slideshow.
Its a crime not to give 60fps option in 2022
Agreed
Exactly
Well said
Finished on Series X, was an absolute pleasure to play
@@dzyrgaming5976 Probably shouldn't mention this in the comments mate. Not everybody has played it yet.
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe Sorry. Comment deleted.
A new 60 fps patch is out today for PS5 and Series X
Halfway through and starting over with the new patch. The game now looks next generation. It's gorgeous now.
PS5 seems to struggle at highly detailed games. 🤔 20fps is too slow...
Am I the only one who thinks this only looks marginally better than the 1st game while also managing to be INSANELY HEAVY? I mean barely being able to mantain 30fps at 1440p on a freaking 10TF machine? That is just crazy!
Yeah, it looks like a smaller leap than the GOW > Ragnarok jump and that’s still a PS4 game.
This really shows how little we have tapped into the new hardware. It’s going to be amazing what the technical wizards at developers such as Rockstar, Rocksteady, and id Software are going to able to achieve.
Modern vintage gamer said as much. The consoles are nowhere near their potential yet. I'd imagine they will be comparable to a 3070 once optimisation gets to the point it was last gen.
@@V1CT1MIZED Yeah, I specifically want to see the new CPU’s pushed to its limits. Those low end 2013 units have been boat anchors for game developers for years. PC ports are often bare utilizing their CPU’s at 60fps.
@@V1CT1MIZED For sure. 3070 has only 8gb of ram. Consoles can use around 10gb for sure plus streaming.
@@user-qg7oq6qw5c You have to keep in mind though, that on PC you will also have RAM for the CPU to utilize, in addition to the GPU's VRAM.
16GB seems to be pretty usual amount of RAM on gaming PCs these days.
The consoles only have unifield VRAM which will have to suffice for both the CPU and the GPU.
XSX is showing why it is the most powerful machine ever made!
I really don't like Toms presentation of these videos. It's funny how discouraged he gets when the ps5 has issues and nearly glosses over a near 10fps difference in some cases but is almost excited in other reviews when it's reversed. This was a great showing on the series S all things considered but he just could help but make it sound like a poor version.
This game will definitely plays better on the Xbox due to the partnership with MS and GAme pass! look for the PS5 exclusives and see what is what
Releasing a 30fps game should be crime
they should do a proper mideviel game in this engine, maybe the 100 year war or maybe a fictional conflict that's very similar? The game is beautiful and it would be cool to see different game on it.
Now on NG+ for the platinum hunt. All this game needs is a 60fps patch and it's a dime!
Honesty I've been playing it on my Xbox Series S on a 4K LG OLED and it looks amazing. I have noticed a few frame dips (Probably due to the 40fps mode) but ive gotta hand it to the series s it does a good job. This is coming from someone that has a £2,500 PC. Overall im impressed.
Great to hear bro! I just downloaded it on my Series S...can't wait! 😊
I'm loving it on Series S as well.
@O N just buying another 512gb SSD would put you at 400$. Now add a 4k disc drive,better CPU,GPU,RAM series x is easily more value per dollar.
Series s is good for the price if you’re a casual or just don’t want a series x. But it’s definitely not better value or obviously performance wise.
@O N 200$ for 500 gb’s more, 4k disc drive,better CPU,GPU,RAM. If you could afford it why would you buy an s lol?? I have the X and a PS5. If you have a ps5 im assuming you have a 4k tv/monitor.
Why would you cheap out on a series s if you get less value for your $ and can’t play 4k??
@O N you’re literally that slow? We’re talking about the capability of the console.. were in the world would you get the context that im talking about just one game???
The fact that the XSS holds that 30fps comparable to the XSX is fantastic. Yes, the overall image quality is softer, but the image detail and fidelity is pretty much identical. For a £250 (or cheaper) console with game pass, this is still an incredible bargain for next gen gaming.
Or lazy devs
@@kiisseli1337 yes sure... Keep saying that for every developer out there. Shows how young you are
Such an amazing Get for Gamepass. These Asobo folks are top quality. For he PS5 maybe dropping the resolution will resolve the frame dips
Probaly it is more a problem with the cpu? Beceaus of the energy shift. Ps5 is puching hard so the gpu get some power from the cpu. But the cpu is puched aswell
And people were wondering where that 20% extra power for the XSX had gone. lol.
thanks alot to DF , these new consoles showing there age so early this time.
I asked Asobo the other day and they seem to be working on a 60fps version, so fingers crossed. I can handle 10k rats instead of 300k
Yeah I agree: Fps > rats
There's definitely some optimisation to be done. Asobo made Flight Sim too which was also incredibly demanding at launch where 30fps was difficult to maintain even with settings on low or medium but now the game can be played at higher resolutions with max settings at 60fps.
Really? Any idea how long that would take? I wanna play the game so bad on my ps5 but seeing as it drops below 30 fps, I have my concerns
@@mrcraggle yea it's definitely a poorly optimized game, so hopefully they can get it to be a solid 60 like they did with innocence
@@ardasevmis7583 I messaged them a few days ago and they said the improvements were coming in the next patch soon, but no specific timing. Don't hold me to that tho 😅
This studio is going from strength to strength. Undoubtedly due to xbox's investment in them over the years which enabled them to expand. I'm surprised MS hasn't acquired them yet tbh.
Microsoft does not want to foster studio evolution, it wants to buy all the content it can for Game Pass to crush any and all competition.
Besides, Asobo would become shit if purchased by Microsoft.
@@nightdriver7216 🐎 alert!
@@nightdriver7216 you do realise Microsoft has been working with asobo for years on Microsoft flight simulator right? They're basically a 2nd party studio to Microsoft right now which is why they can get games like plague tale requiem on gamepass. They have a very close relationship and MS has invested a lot onto the studio. Why would they suddenly turn bad when they've thrived in their partnership with MS so far? 😐
@@nightdriver7216 lmfao big mad
Played on my PC. Even on an “old” 2070 Super, it’s a stunning game.
2070 is old?wtf!?🤣🤣
“Old”
@@Alfredstromwakefield In tech circles, it's old but it's still a solid gpu, even for today's gaming.
What resolution and CPU are u using? I also have 2070 super but with i7 8700K and 4k TV. Dropping all the way down 1080P just to get the game to run acceptably well is going to look bad.
@@lycanwarrior2137 1440p, and my CPU is a 3900x
I hope Asobo release an update for better stability and with luck, an option for 60fps.
60FPS should always be an option regardless of the compromise(s)
So you want a compromise 60fps?
The Colloseum part is just brutal for any hardware, even on a RTX 3080 I saw dips under 60fps (god bless VRR though) there at 1440p native. Though it's mostly taxing the processor. This is a true "next gen" (current) game so don't expect all of these to have a 60fps mode, we are slowly moving past the cross gen era console people.
I see console players seething about the 60 fps, but seriously what did people expect after cross-gen ended? They point to the last of us part 1 and demon souls as some sort of “gotcha!” But those games have very linear ps3 era level design. You can’t have everything unless you have enough money to get a high end pc. Never been any different in any gen.
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 what about horizon? You can argue this game looks more detailed maybe, but horizon runs at 60 and is open world. Resolution is 1800p checkerboard. Again not saying it's like for like, but I dont see how they cant get this game at 60 when Horizon is clearly more demanding.
Czy to nowa generacja to mam duże wątpliwości. W tej grze jest dużo rozmycia które maskuje niedoskonałosci grafiki. Kury z trójkątnym ogonem lub rozciapane tekstury na nie których budynkach. Do tego zacinanie się bez względu na posiadany sprzęt. Bądźmy poważni. Optymalizacja a raczej jej brak to tak się kończy, że tylko 4090 jest wstanie uzyskać ponad 60 fps w natywnym 4K
@@HAA2k if it’s “clearly more demanding” how come digital foundry keeps disagreeing? At the most intense scenes in this game there can be over 300k rats, plus a highly detailed environment and other npcs. In horizon at most you have 3-4 robots in a pretty but empty field + an npc or two. 30 fps is coming back as cross gen dies
Why aren't games using FSR 2.x on consoles still is a mystery to me.
30fps is not okay! We need 60fps mode!
Game of the year for me
Series X 💪🏻
It’s literally 300 thousand rats in exchange for 30 fps lmao. We don’t need 300 thousand rats spawning in. Tragic in terms of performance.
They should have a 1080p 60 fps mode.
12 chapters in, the game is a real work of art, and the dualsense implementation is really impressive!
dualsense gimmick is the most useless thing
They dropped the ball. No 60fps is not excusable. Reduce LOD or something but not having stable 60fps is a no-go.
This!!!
it's an nvidia RTX4090 showpiece, nothing else
Oh no! Anyways
It’s the best visuals of the year with no competition
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 Uncharted 4 looks just as good and runs twice as good
El Analista de Bits said that the Xbox Series S reaches 1080p in this game.
I'd take a 1080p or even 900p mode on series x if it means 60fps. I played the first chapter and stopped because 30fps just isn't a enjoyable experience for me... especially after playing the first game at 60.
Yeah, I'll consider it if it's boosted to 60 on a PS5 Pro or whatever the next one is called...
Amazing game, having to play on my PC laptop as its locked to 30fps. A 60fps 1080p/1440p mode should be there.
Not gonna happen, the game is too heavy for the current consoles.
@@AbrahamZX1 its not at all these consoles can handle 60 fps on the game if pushed
@@danielbradshaw1724 Nonsense. If that was the case then they'd be running at 60 now wouldn't they? They would have to make drastic cuts in both lod & resolution to get 60fps on console.
It is there, but you need an Nvidia RTX graphics card on PC in order to achieve 60fps. This game is very demanding on both your Cpu and Gpu. As for consoles, you'll have to wait for Asobo to add FSR 2.0 support.
@@danielbradshaw1724 Nope, they cant. If you listened to DF's analysis they explained why.
Played it on PS5, and I absolutely loved it, despite the performance issues. I don't mind 30fps for this game. I hope Asobo creates a patch to at least allow a more stable 30fps and remove screen tearing.
In 2022 30 fps is unacceptable on modern hardware, I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
It will always be the norm. Developers are gonna start pushing these new consoles to their limits graphically. You can't do that while trying to reach a 60fps standard.
Great video, thanks! I started on PC but after a while decided to stop and wait for the ray tracing patch to make the game even more beautiful.
Bruh 18 hours ago when the video was just uploaded.
I'm also waiting for the ray Tracing patch, but I'm very worried about the performance. Without it, on a 3080, DLSS quality, high settings, I'm around 60 FPS. I can see RT cutting that in half.
@@buniteer 3090 here runs pretty smooth at 60 + in most instances except when the damn rats show up in certain parts. The fluctuations really bothered me so I capped it at 50 fps. It's not perfect but its at least consisten and smooth during big moments.
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe Patreon early access.
In the engine ini file i saw rtx shadows only so i don't think your missing much
Personally 60fps is really the need, I love this game so much, this game has the most thoughtout characters, really pulled my emotional strings but man I would love to have 60fps mode to play it again, tbh it's a masterpiece for me only held back by lack of performance mode on consoles.
Yeah, I'd like to see a performance mode.
@@seanwfindley 2000$
@@lumi5880 consoles suck
@@seanwfindley its glorious, throw the peasants some crumbs
@@74kross I remember when I was 13 and thought I was edgy too.
The game is gorgeous and absolutely brilliant. Sad af but brilliant. Played on PC and only had some stutters. Didn't stop my enjoyment of it at all. The higher fps you get on PC is definitely worth it.
Most pc gamers won't get higher fps though.
I wonder if the XSX could hit 60fps at 1080p if the option existed? This game and games like it is acceptable at 30 fps. The problem comes from games like Gotham Knights which is basically a fighting game and really needs frame rate over visuals.
Love Tom's reviews! He is very thorough and is well spoken. Tom needs to be in more D.F weekly!
Urggghhhh, no thanks!!
@@Sheen334 what’s the issue?
@@zombiebillcosby It's like listening to a robot listening to Tom. It's all numbers and figures.
John does these reviews justice, passionate and informative.
Tom just bores the life out of me.
@@Sheen334 I'd take 100 Tom's over that wanker German guy.
@@Sheen334 agreed, I always prefer John over Tom. John is great, passionate, informative and entertaining all in one.
I retract my previous comment as I was initially turned off as a result of the 30fps but after about 5 hours into the Game I’ve been able to overlook the 30fps because the story of this Game is so absolutely incredible to say the least !
Also The Graphics weren’t exactly Uber impressive through the first 4 chapters but once I saw how insanely photo realistic the landscape is in chapter 5 especially the Trees which are the absolute most realistic looking trees I’ve ever seen in a video game as it’s Gorgeous !
Now I’m loving this Game, and the 30fps is basically an after thought at this point simply because of how Amazing The StoryLine is becoming
Yes, and the soundtrack is AMAZING
I get what your saying but we shouldn't forget that it's a game and gaming is more fun when it's 60fps. 30fps feels like a chore. I'd rather just Watcha good movie with a good story line than deal with the 30fps just for the story
@@wiehanndeklerk8969 I don't think it's a big an issue as some make it out to be. Yes, 60 is best, but 30 is absolutely doable.
@@TheActs2021 I agree to some extent, some games for example RDR 2 which I played again recently felt smooth at 30fps. This game just doesn't feel that smooth at 30, even 30fps is badly optimised
@@wiehanndeklerk8969 yes, for Plague Tales I would say it could be optimized better, for sure. Perhaps they'll be a patch down the road.
Did he compare a 4090 a card that is literally over 1500 dollars, not the whole pc but the card to an 500 xbox 😳 🤔
Wtf
Looks like that Xbox Series S is growing up into a quite flexible new gen family member to spite haters from Rocksteady and others like them ;p
This aged well…
No 60fps means a big no
60fps >>> ray tracing or good visuals
Graphics > 60 fps
@@Jay053 then play in 20fps
I was lucky enough to play this on my 120hz TV at 40 fps on my Series X and honestly it played so well that I forgot it wasn't at 60 fps. Really enjoyed the game.
40fps is one of those features I looked at with the side eye but ended up being a great mix of performance and fidelity. Every game needs a 40fps option
Same the 40fps mode was smooth with a few exceptions
It has 40fps mode on
Xbox series x how to unlock it I have gamepass beat the 1st one but sitting out these one bcz of 30fps maybe the devs update to 60 only like to beat story 1 time
@@RedSavage7 to unlock 40 fps mode 1) Have TV that can support 120HZ. 2) Go into xbox settings and set it to 120HZ mode. 3) Game will now run at 40fps.
@@DarqStalker i have it but when I try is kinda blurry but it turns out is plague tell first game has better preformance then this new one I have those t.v Lg c1 and X80j but still feel the game is not hitting what the first one did
The fact that this is only 30fps on PS5 is an automatic no from me.
Will you include the steam deck in the oven review? Or were you saying in the beginning that there won’t be a pc review?
How is it possible that this game looks so good on PC and bigger consoles, when Series S holds this whole generation back, apparently? 🤔
the series x running this much closer to 40 fps than the ps5 makes me think the ps5 is already cpu limited. the ps5 cpu does have some additional cuts the series x cpu doesn't and the ps5 cpu in some aspects is closer to zen 1
this gen texture clipping seems to stand out a lot more with everything being more clear and detailed
He is right about the series s version but people have to understand that from my experience, the series s isn’t really meant to be a home console for 4k resolution. I believe it was designed more as a budget/travel console. The Series S combine with a small 15 to 17 inch 1080p monitor and you got yourself a really cool compact gaming setup.
Nah S runs native 900p. Im on a 1080p monitor and use the X because the difference is very noticable.
@@kaarthuisplus Dang, good luck hauling that chunky boy Series X with you in a back pack with that monitor. didn’t say that series S was perfect but for portability it’s definitely a lot more practical.
They gonna have to lower some of the settings on PS5 to stabilize more in a future patch. XSX simply has more overhead plus PS5's Smart Shift is probably effecting performance.
People forget that PS5 can't run at MAX CPU and GPU at the same time the same way XSX can. At default, PS5 runs the GPU at the 10TF level but if more CPU is needed, then Smart Shift will kick in and send more power to the CPU. The GPU will then lower to the 9TF level. So all these heavy drops when the CPU heavy rats show up makes since as Smart Shift is trying to compensate for the added CPU load.
You have a source to read a bit more about how the hardware works on that specific resources management? thx
@@pierrandre Just search PS5 Smart Shift. It's AMD tech used on lap tops. Its purpose isn't efficiently manage powet between CPU and GPU. This is where the 9TF and 10TF come into effect on the PS5 based on how much high the GPU is running.
I’m a few hours in playing on ps5 at 40fps. But sadly I think I’ll have to stop and wait for a few updates, the first encounter with guards and rats is just running very poorly for me and I’d rather enjoy the game and not let that annoyance hurt the experience.
Do you have vrr?
@@user-qg7oq6qw5c I have an LG CX, I think my main problem is the frame variability, so keeping it at 30 would probably help.
This Game Looks Next Gen
While Gotham Knights looks like a PS3 Game
Ps3? stop with the hyperbole
@@DKFProductions if ac unity batman arkham knight or ryse of rome released in 2014 with an insane visual this game doesnt deserve to be placed there its atleast a 2011 game
@@husix8876 I'm guessing it's because GK was intended to be cross-gen until not long ago. Probably would have been different if it was next-gen from the start
@@pot6455 imagine Gotham knights on ps4 that game would literally hit max 10 fps what a terrible optimization
@@husix8876 I'm guessing that's why they dropped it
I didn’t know it’s only for on consoles with ultimate game game pass you can play it on PC at it’s best with the highest graphics card 3090-4090 consoles aren’t the best those are for people who can’t afford a PC that’s $5000
I think this game looks amazing at 30 fps the graphics are just jaw dropping
Series S still looks really good.
XBSX just more frequently showing its hardware superiority over PS5 now, although that did take a while.
it's a CPU bound game, and both consoles have the same CPU, so the drops on ps5 are just a bad optimization
That's pretty incredible that they are able to make this in only 3 years, the game is huge. Many AAA studios deliver a game in more than 4 or 5 years theses days, just look at the time between The Last of Us 1 and 2.. I completed Plague Tale Requiem on PC with an RTX 2080 at 1440p Gsync screen. On High with ultra textures, I run between 60 to 85fps (DLSS Quality), I think performance was great, or maybe I was just lucky.
Comparing this games quality to Last of Us 😂 I’ve seen it all in these comments
@@spenny2cents Yeah it really is ridiculous to compare an airtight ultra-polished and ultra-optimized game like TLOU P2 to this game which is decently polished and has a rushed optimization on PS5 and PC. Not to mention how many of this game's inspirations in gameplay, story and atmosphere come from TLOU P2.
@@statcous Sure but TLOU2 narrative and story are underwhelming, basically it was written by a 12 years old saying : Revenge is bad m'ok? I know that the audience of DF love fancy technical achievments but TLOU part 2 is just not as great as people say, fortunately, it still have the Naughty Dog automatic seal of quality so people will say it's good even it's not that good. Even the first TLOU was great, gameplay was a chore and after 2 hours the game start to be repetitive and boring, fortunately, if you push until the end, it's getting great. Naughty Dog just benefits the doctor's syndrome, because they are famous and they have achievments people will think whatever they produce will be great by default. The truth is, Uncharted 4 is beautiful but not that enjoyable, TLOU Part2 has a story written by someone in middle school with characters that players have no empathy for.
That 40 fps mode really had me fooled! I thought the game was running at 60-50 frames.
Cyberpunk would benefit from a 40fps VRR on the ps5 and Series X-S
@@johnbishop2536 These developers need to add FSR 2.0 to their games honestly, these consoles support it.
@@ladiddas Game uses custom temporal upsampling.
I have both the PS5 and Series X, but the deciding factor for me in getting the game for the PS5 was hearing how excited the developers were in working with the haptic feedback features of the PS5. Having played the original game, I could very much see how haptic feedback could really enhance the experience. Also, really excited to hear the game is way up there in the sales charts. I'm glad people have discovered the franchise. The original was an absolute masterpiece and hidden gem. I'll be waiting for a third installment.
Great video, Tom! Keep up the good work! I was wondering what you thought of the heavy chromatic aberration in use here though. Luckily, it can be turned off.
Wish consoles were updated as quickly as pc gpu generations. We can’t go another 7-8 years with this hardware.
Another solid win for XBOX💚
Did you not watch the video! PS5 wins! I'm a delusional Sony fanboy basement dwelling loser btw!
@Salt Maker 12:32
@@NoXiousBLD 12:32
@Salt Maker who actually cares ? I own pc series x and ps5 stop this fanboy nonsense it's embarrassing
@Salt Maker there's a big difference when 30 fps is already quite low and the PS5 is dropping to 24 fps while the series X is locked at 30fps that's a 20% fps advantage.
The game is visually amazing, just seeing what Asobo Studio managed to do with ForzaTech and evolve A Plague Tale Requiem so much,
I'm really excited to know what Playground Games is going to do with Fable visually.
Who told you that this game is using ForzaTech?
@@nonyabusiness6084 That's legit, you can look it up
Yea.... that ForzaTech is amazing!!!
@@Downpour-X1 I did & it is not Forzatech. Why didn't you bother to look it up before doubling down on this nonsense? This is one of the biggest problems with the internet. People hear something & then just start repeating it because they want it to be true or whatever ridiculous motive, rather than taking a whopping 30 seconds to simply look it up.
The only game outside of Forza that is supposedly using Forzatech, is Fable. If Asobo were using Forzatech this game wouldn't be so catered to Nvidia & DLSS. But more so to AMD & FSR.
You can do your part in stopping bs from spreading like wildfire by simply looking it up yourself before repeating it.
@@tonyungfat But it's not Forzatech. Quit just believing any comment or rumor you see online. It only takes 30-60 seconds to look something like this up.
4:11 Impressive. Most impressive.
Some shots actually made my jaw drop for several seconds. wow
I was waiting for this video and now I'm really confused. I stopped playing the PS5 version because it's the game with worse framerate I played in recent years, but in your video you praise the performance. I have no problem playing at 30fps (I played in quality mode all PS5 games that allow that mode, except Demons Souls), but the 30fps in this game feels wrong, with constant hiccups or something similar to stuttering. I thought you would demolish the game regarding the framerate and that would put more pressure in Asobo to address the erratic framerate, but now with your benevolent review I feel lost. Am I the only one feeling the 30fps in this game feels broken?
Everytime that PS5 has a worst performance in Digital Foundry reviews, they usually minimize how worst is in comparison, as well as offering excuses: we hope it gets patched, becaue we don't usually see much diference in multiplatform games... Also, in all the recent reviews they avoid to compare directly the framerate side by side between platforms. They usually show different scenes or just don't compare the same scene side by side as they use to do... I wonder why.
Foreal did you see all that screen tearing?? It’s hardly even holding 30. Ya when the screen is tearing everywhere it’s “a good showcase of performance” NOT the game runs like dogshit
another game at 30FPS, WTF are we back to 2013? I believe, however, that opposite of gotham knights, this game will eventually see 60fps mode or higher as a patch further down the line. I just don't see Warner giving it effort in their game for some reason.
Absolutely love this game, just finished my New Game + run through. Really enjoy the balance between stealth, puzzles, and "walking sim" storytelling sections.
I know the video above explains this in detail, but I just gotta say, boy does this game have some GRAPHICS!
I could swear that this game has Dynamic resolution on Series S maybe between 1080-900p the first chapter/slower scenes look very Sharp when you have a lot of enemies, particle effects, rats you can notice the resolution drop
Its because in slow scenes upsampling works better.
@O N have you seen the vídeo, they just Said is 900p!
@O N A lot of things are really, even on PC if the whole DLSS and FSR is any indication. I guess achieving higher resolution has plateu and we just want good games with good fake resolutions that is indistinguishable from the real thing these days, and I am okay with that. Too many devs focus on the wrong things at times. We will like to see some experimentation with the current hardware limitation, so we expect some interesting results next year.
I think there is a lot Asobo can do to improve the frame rate. Reduce some settings, less rats and maybe add some fsr and run the game at 1080p on the ps5 and series x. Maybe even add some dynamic res. The cpu's on these consoles are decent this generation not like last generation so I don't see no excuse as to why they couldn't. It will take lots of work thoug and reworking but why can't these developers focus on things like this before they release titles like this?
Its a slower paced narrative game, 30 fps is not necessarily bad.
@@dickdanson Yeah but at least give that stable 30 fps on ps5. Ps5 drops below 30 fps in some places. Just reduce the settings a bit if you cant make it happen
@@ardasevmis7583 absolutely they should clean those issues up. i was just responding to the idea that the devs should need to include and spent time optimizing a 60 fps mode, which i disagree with. Its their choice and a 30 fps target makes sense for this type of game that doesnt have super fast action and benefits from the visual fidelity
It would most likely require entire level design changes, which is to say it’s impossible. The back half of the game has huge open areas and tsunamis of rats. I can’t see it happening.
It is a beautiful game. It would be nice if they could drop it to 1080p on series x/ps5 to achieve 60fps and checkerboard it up to 1440p or something. Obviously I’m not a dev or anything so I’m sure it’s much easier said than done. Still, great work by the dev team and DF for this video
Agree, I will take 1080p for 60fps over 4K any day.
I don't think resolution or GPUs are at the culprit here, the game seems to be dropping when there's a lot on screen, that indicates CPU bottleneck, probably the game engine is the same used on last gen which was very CPU constrained and it's not using XSX/PS5 CPUs to full potential.
The same is happening with Arkham Knights.
Game engines will need serious overhaul to be more CPU bound this gen as last gen there was very little to work with so GPUs we're the workhorses.
@@claudiovic88 We have vrr. So not big problem variable framerate.
@@user-qg7oq6qw5c VRR will not make the game run at 60 FPS but of course it helps, specially with input latency.
@@claudiovic88 If you have vrr tv you dont need locked framerate. Developers for sure can add mode with better performance.
The camera liberty given to you in photo mode is chef’s kiss. Take notes everyone.
This is the best visual and audible gaming experience to date imo. Gameplay wise it's fine, story is in a league of it's own. Overall fun and jaw dropping game and one of my all time favorites. Play the game with French voice acting for the most authentic experience
I'm really curious to see if just FSR2 1440p + 900p rendering would be enough to allow 60fps play? Not sure if it's totally viable as a post-launch update, but my curiosity is piqued nonetheless
Game uses custom temporal upsampling not fsr2.
@@user-qg7oq6qw5c has DLSS so you can just inject FSR2 with sone DLL files in the DLSS folder. Obviously Asobo would have to test this officially for bugs, but we can do it
Quite honestly It’s just unbelievable that the Series S version is more stable performance wise. Why in the h.ll they didn’t lower the resolution target on PS5?
I don’t know. I need to stop watching DF videos, there is really no point in knowing developers made these mind blowing decisions, it just makes me angry.
Never tought I'll heard the words "high refresh rate" and 40FPS in the same sentence, what a 5H1TTY optimized game at the same time that is the best next/actual-gen console game...
Will not buy on ps5 until it performs properly.
When I bought my Series X i was naive to think we would never see 30fps games again. So much was made of the power of PS5 and Series X that’s it’s hard not to be disappointed by this generation