I don't care if a woman is in the military or not, my problem is that there shouldn't be any changes in requirements for women. Making the selection process less stringent for women would make the institution weaker in absolute terms.
Thank God someone has spoken up. Politics and Courts need to stay away from issues military unless it is a case of welfare of the Entire organisation. Thank you Gen Sengar for a candid response
Well the plan of the feminists is to finish "misogynst" men like you from the society, make a generation of weak men, then claim they are superior in everything. No offense intended but that's how it's going outside military in civil.
9:30 Very Important line because here Sir Major General Anil Sengar explained with proper example that why at some places women in Army is not fit. I think he is totally right in saying that army is not place for feminism .
@@raviraj6851 i should have clarified that i am only responding to the feminism remark about army. true feminism is treating men and women equally, everywhere. Army cannot be exception. Even Mauryans and Cholans trained women for combat and espionage.
@@rdc515if women officer can share the same tent with her male comrades at Siachen in such difficult terrain.then she is fit. That’s why he said women have roles in army but not in forward positions as commanding officer not due to her capability but due to her physical limitations . You are correct some roles are best suited for women like espionage,administration works,medical corps,etc..
Very impressive Sir. You have put things in perspective. In most cases a unit is as good as its Commanding Officers. Can't have Commanding Officers who are not trained for the responsibility.
General Sengar, Sir.. U have hit the nail in a crisp brief and to the point manner befitting a Military personel who had been on ground. Sir, i had admired u since i had known u through ur book "Battalion Command Dare to lead" & since then had been an ardent admirer of yours. Thank u very much for ur views and clear thought process which is lacked by few people in the services now a days. Warm Regards
Thank you Black panther.Am glad my books are helping you to improve. Keep up the passion of reading,that is the only way to get the best out of your potential.God bless. ❤
From ‘regimentation’ to ‘activism’🤦🏻♂️ History is a testament that whenever a system accepts ‘opening up’ & ‘reform’ it’s ‘destruction’ becomes imminent.
इस विषय पर जब ......भक्तो से बात होती है तब मेरा पक्ष यही रहता है। जरनल साहब के विचारो से मुझे अपना पक्ष को तर्कसंगत बनाने मे सहायक रहेगा जरनल साहब को धन्यवाद। जयहिंद।
Government for their political correctness is doing such moves . They can be employed in various other sectors and yes ever country has different perspectives towards women. India is still not ready for it. They can be employed in various other branches but not in combat roles. Combat is altogether a different game
@@kumarakash8408 National security cannot be achieved until all Indian citizens are empowered. Agnipath deserves far more criticism than women officers in combat.
@@rdc515 Agneever definitely deserve criticism and scrapping also but this virus of Feminism is Degrading our Society, Women had enough empowerment no need of giving more
@@pkm3173 Look, nobody is "sending" women anywhere. Keep the vacancies open and let women volunteet for combat, including counter terrorism roles. Enough women in India are stronger than men from many regions. Punjabi, Haryanvi, rajasthani and northeastern women such as boxers and weightlifters can easily punch us into a chutney. I dont know what soft princesses are you thinking about. Let women volunteer for combat and let the fittest survive. Once the word about their experiences in combat spreads, you will automatically see only the superfit women volunteering for them and not the kind you are afraid will get hurt
@@kumarakash8408Virus of advantage-seeking is surely harmful. But that doesn't mean Feminism should be maligned, in fact it should be reclaimed because it talks even about Men's equal rights. We are letting selfish women hijack feminism. And bro if you think women are empowered enough already, surely you are triggered because of something personal because 71 percent of Indian women still being financially dependent on others is not a definition of empowerment.
The general spoken the brut truth without any ado & in most civilised manner. Government & Judiciary must understand that & as per practical recommendation only 2-3 branches they should be allowed where they can do in a safer place & men do the job of army which they meant for.
Yes but now many feminist will say how can we match the physical standards with men when they are naturally more stronger,feminist just need excuses to get a safe and better place of opportunity
What Gen Sengar has spoken is nothing but the TRUTH. My experiences and views are the same. But neither the judiciary nor the politicians fight. Therefore, the call must come from the Generals
Brother society doesn’t change by dialog, today dialog is a form of manipulation & guilt traps. Society change by example & courage to be example. If a woman want to be equal to a man then live, act, work & most of all suffer like a man. You can’t expect to get salary of ceo but work like manager.
Disagree with some points. Army has rules like how long an officer/jawan can be deployed in siachen. For eg. 3-4 months is the norm. Because army know the limitations of a human is that they can for long periods stay in the cold. So now the rules are made with that in consideration. Humans have limitations nobody is perfect and women have different limitations than men. Why can't we provide those facilitiesand then see how they perform. Building a cresh in a peace area isn't that hard. Why not. We build hospitals for injured men, don't we or do we just let them stay with injury. I agree that the criteria for an officer shouldn't be lowered but both men and women should be given facilities to enable them to have equal footing. Sure you shouldn't be able to refuse a posting, but whatever is required for the posting should be given to the officer.
General SENGAR well said, NO ONE IS AGAINST WOMEN they are gr8 because god has made them for greater role Only they can be mothers men cant, Let them do their job and men should do their own.
Well I being a girl agree with this opinion ,and things we experience we learn and it's more physical than mental which is little less in women but I think even not every man can't join army so we can let it be what army is
See. Army is not for everyone . The army is not for every male ( men). There are some specific parameters for joining the army. He who suits with parameters of army. Then only he could. Just because man is man, he can join the army. Not.
@@PayalRai-ge7cv that's why I'm saying that let the army deal their affairs. Men and women both can be soldiers. But when the enemies are motivated by fanatic ideology like Islam and enemy like Pakistan. Then you have to accept that the army is for men. You can see how many women have been exploited in WW 1 and WW2. Women are always a target for the enemies. Even the end number of spy women brutality raped and tortured. Most of the spy women were missing and raped.
We need to increase awareness on this, there are many things activities during training in many cases a female solider get concession in exercises just because she is a woman, the judiciary needs to understand that militant will not see that the solider is male or female during war both of them must have the same training to face such situations
What voice and knowledge you have about the subject sir, a lieutenant general woman officer said this in NDTV long back that " when surplus men are there what is the need of role women in defence services..we need them in other forces like CRPF and anti naxal forces..
Women entered army as short service commissioned officers, it has been more than three decades. They've gone to courts for being Commanding Officers for grant of permanent commission. They want to be leaders of male soldiers and thats their alter egos. Till date none of the lady officers have gone to court that women should be enrolled in Other Ranks as if they already know that women will not be able to rough it out in conditions where males do. Just want to enjoy as officers want to be leaders without ever knowing or understanding what subordinates do, what kind of leader would they be if they cant even sit with their men
From this episode, GOI should not allowed the women and all the women who refused duties should be dismissed. With this i am sure all will be dismissed.Please adjust women in other establishments like school teacher.This is shameful that JAG branch officer refused to perform duty and went to court.When army establishment will start dismiss for disobeying command all will not apply for permanent commission.Advocate
I don't see any women leading operations in Rashtriya rifles, special forces, LRPs in HAA, Siachen posts. Why ❓ they are supposed to be equally good as men......hope they do commando and jungle warfare courses with same standards too before considering themselves equally fit to command.
The politicians beurucrats judges who sent women into armed forces will rue the day when they go into combat . The fighting effeciency 😢of the regiments and combat efficiency has decreased proportionatly
Great observation sir... But Leading men into war or Combat zone is not riding horses in a secured environment with people cheering for u ..! 😊There is a difference
Make women a CO if they can pass same physical test n mental test as their male counterpart while removing paternity leave then only we have zero objection... I mean women constable is acceptable without requirements of passing same test as men, but in military force is way above feminism n women empowerment..
Sir soldier or officer ....is not the concern it should be gender...... Understand the constraints...of female officer.... biological difference exist....
Lets see women doing something similar to Maj Unnikrishnan or Vardarajan or Anuj Sood or Mohit Sharma ???! Sitting in ordinance corps and MES , POGs (people other than Grunts) can yapp a lot, tell them to come on ground, carry RLs and Mortars and do patrolling and taking fire from enemies, US Marines have got hit injured and lost lives trying to protect their madam officers in Afg..why do they only want command roles and a real commander leads by example, the officers who i mentioned did that! They are true leaders , sitting and yapping you've no right over anything, you've to earn it, crying sexism will only make jawans lose trust over you, make them annoyed and they'll not follow your command anymore
I don't know why in India we are keep on comparing with other European armies. There problem that they don't have enough population to do these types of tough jobs, so they made compulsory service. However, in our case, it's voluntary service. In india for a single vacancy, there are thousands of contenders.
Extremely pin pointed replies with due regard to the role of ladies in our/ any society. Very very valid points of concern expressed by Gen Sengar. I can only hope that political leadership, judiciary and military leadership will take a reasoned call on this issue. Well done General Sengar. Well said.
@@rdc515 ur point of view are good but army is not for empowering women or spreading feminism.. and feminists only want higher posts in army… There are other jobs also like driving vehicle or support to soldiers or jobs like chef .. but no feminist want to go there only for higher posts?
@@pkm3173 I agree that army is not for empowering women over men. Then why is army so interested in training female athletes? A recent news report titled "Girls Sports Company: Inside Indian Army’s mission to turn teenage girls into champion athletes" quotes a serving army officer as saying: "They can get employment out of it, which wasn’t possible earlier. It was high time to support women athletes... The larger logic is that if you look at the Chinese Olympic medals, almost 65 per cent come from women. That is why we felt it was important to train girls…. I feel that India will benefit when the women athletes are very strong.” In Pune, the army selected only 24 women out of 1100 applicants. At Mhow, the army selected only 11 shooters from 1200 women applicants. This was just one example to make the argument that Indian armed forces themselves are interested in women empowerment because they believe that India as a whole will neither be empowered nor be secure if women fall behind. And the numbers cited above clearly show that even when it comes to sports selections, army does not dilute its standards to favour girls. Now, I disagree with the idea that Feminists are invading our Army. I don't think that the first women officers were selected because some feminists protested at Jantar Mantar. If you think feminists are only interested in soft jobs that is why they are interested in becoming officers, this means you think Indian Army officer training produces softies? Or may be just the OTA produces softies? I don't think that comfort-seeking feminists even apply for the army. Look at the demographics from where Indian women become officers, you'll find that either they come from regions which are well known for tough women or they are hailing from military families themselves. If seeking comfort was the problem, please do check with the army how many upper class, rich boys want to join the army these days. I don't think that pseudo-feminists apply to join the army. They simply won't survive the hardships. I'll tell you one of the real reasons Army opened the door for women officers at first and not jawans. Any officer will tell you that jawans come from villages and they are not psychologically ready to salute women superiors. So this actually means that women were originally recruited as officers because military leaders were quite afraid that women jawans will be handled very badly by our male jawans. Secondly, 100 percent Indian fathers and brothers would have panicked if family's doll was asked to share tents with jawans. Indian women are soft because we keep them soft. It is a Indian Navy officer's daughter who has recently made a record of climbing 7000ft+ peaks on each continent - proof that when fathers want, women can be raised to be tough too. It is majority of Indian men who want to keep women soft because it serves our selfish purposes. When there is the issue of Agnipath or women officers' sexual harrassment complaints, we argue that army should handle these issues internally and public would not understand. I would argue that if a handful of women COs performed poorly, the army should have made sure not to leak these reports to civilians who are now pointing to the issue to say women are unfit for the job. Army should have dealt with this internally. There are Generals who have already disagreed with the news about women COs, publicly so on youtube. Lastly, when male civil servants or politicians are found to be corrupt or pathetic leaders we don't say bar men from these professions. Why are we quick to jump on this "bar women from combat" because a few women didn't perform well"? If you think feminism is a corrupt ideology, you and I must help make it a better ideology because truly strong, independent women make our burden lighter as men. We must not allow corrupt women to abuse feminism just as we don't wish to allow corrupt men to abuse our cherished values.
People are saying India is different from west , let me ask you how many women fighters you saw in ukraine war. Militaries throughout the world have very less to offer for women. If she wants to be part of army let her prove her mettle not out of sympathy.
Necessity is Mother of Invention. What was the requirement of National Security to enroll women in Defense Forces?? When there is no dearth of perfectly fit Male candidates, then why put Women in harm's way? People need to understand the requirement and what is required to defend us. Hope India wakes up before being embarrassed
Issue of feminism came much later. The senior military leadership of late 80s and 90s didn’t think through this issue at all. A matter of yes sir, yes sir three bags full. Also a lot of women who joined the Fauj were related to Army officers. No point cribbing now. As they say in the Army; get on with it. The political leadership and senior judiciary has no time for sentiments expressed by Gen Senger. A day will come when even transgender’s will be accepted in the Army! All it will take is an order by the MOD! And again the senior military leadership will say; yes sir yes sir, all bags full. 😢
These are isolated examples and they should have been dealt with as discipline cases. All women officers leave behind their children to go on exercise, courses, temporary duties etc. it’s the norm. It happens all the time. So to put it In perspective…this is a one sided story of some not so pleasant personal experiences.
It was an amazing podcast but there's one point where I disagree. The point where sir says that there's no competition where men n women compete together, so in my opinion inclusion of women in army is not for competition, as sir said both have different capabilities so i believe that inclusion of women in army is imp to use both their capabilities well and secure the nation together. Jai hind
The host should be capable enough to raise counterpoint and questions. Bringing one sided view shows only the myopic view of scheme of things. For your information, there was not one Rani Laxmi Bai, there were n number of such women in our history, misinformed people make bad policies. Host, your choice of subject was poor. You are not capable enough to nor ask questions on this subject neither you are capable enough to present the whole rotunda of geosocietal dynamics. Just two men bickering about women......kudos.....but it was not something new
okay crybaby give some counterpoints yourself. Forget Lakmi Bai, in the present scenario if women denny themselves such opportunities of courses and learning just to look after their personnel lives like the officer said, how are they in a position to earn the respect of those they lead ? And I am sure not all women in the forces are like that, in countries like Isreal, the women are groomed to be equally hardened combatants and leaders, they set apart their personnel lives and need to choose that to be a sacrfice. You dont join the millitary to show how proud you are and serve in a neat uniform with spit and polish and medals, then you joined for the wrong reasons. I would be happy if you can provide me some more information if you think this point is all invalid, that the host brought up
Y not just have separate women Batallon, Brigade, Divya, Corps, Army , problem solved but for Supre court of India wolho would want 50% Army for men and women
I don't care if a woman is in the military or not, my problem is that there shouldn't be any changes in requirements for women. Making the selection process less stringent for women would make the institution weaker in absolute terms.
Thank God someone has spoken up. Politics and Courts need to stay away from issues military unless it is a case of welfare of the Entire organisation. Thank you Gen Sengar for a candid response
Well the plan of the feminists is to finish "misogynst" men like you from the society, make a generation of weak men, then claim they are superior in everything. No offense intended but that's how it's going outside military in civil.
Truth must be told for the good of the organisation and the country.
Well done.
Absolutely sir
Initially I was negative , after listening half I found him genuine.... eventually I find this so true.
Good to see that you appreciate my concerns. I too am prepared to listen to counter view and take them on merit.Thay is how we progress.Appreciate.
@@anilsengar5383 what do you think about agniveers
9:30 Very Important line because here Sir Major General Anil Sengar explained with proper example that why at some places women in Army is not fit. I think he is totally right in saying that army is not place for feminism .
Say this to Israeli army then
@@rdc515 listen to the whole podcast first, sir has said isareli army too.
@@raviraj6851 i should have clarified that i am only responding to the feminism remark about army. true feminism is treating men and women equally, everywhere. Army cannot be exception. Even Mauryans and Cholans trained women for combat and espionage.
@@rdc515 🤙
@@rdc515if women officer can share the same tent with her male comrades at Siachen in such difficult terrain.then she is fit. That’s why he said women have roles in army but not in forward positions as commanding officer not due to her capability but due to her physical limitations . You are correct some roles are best suited for women like espionage,administration works,medical corps,etc..
Very impressive Sir. You have put things in perspective. In most cases a unit is as good as its Commanding Officers. Can't have Commanding Officers who are not trained for the responsibility.
It is an eye-opening discussion for politicians and the judiciary. They must take cognizance of it.
Salute to Gen Sanger!
General Sengar, Sir..
U have hit the nail in a crisp brief and to the point manner befitting a Military personel who had been on ground.
Sir, i had admired u since i had known u through ur book "Battalion Command Dare to lead" & since then had been an ardent admirer of yours.
Thank u very much for ur views and clear thought process which is lacked by few people in the services now a days.
Warm Regards
Thank you Black panther.Am glad my books are helping you to improve. Keep up the passion of reading,that is the only way to get the best out of your potential.God bless. ❤
The unaccountable netas , babus , and officers who have inducted women into the army have degraded it’s combat efficiency .
From ‘regimentation’ to ‘activism’🤦🏻♂️ History is a testament that whenever a system accepts ‘opening up’ & ‘reform’ it’s ‘destruction’ becomes imminent.
Sir has put every point so nicely that everything is so clear
इस विषय पर जब ......भक्तो से बात होती है तब मेरा पक्ष यही रहता है। जरनल साहब के विचारो से मुझे अपना पक्ष को तर्कसंगत बनाने मे सहायक रहेगा
जरनल साहब को धन्यवाद। जयहिंद।
Thank you Sumant ❤
Very well covered by Gen Sengar ....Salute to you sir
Genl Senger has a v clear thought and a vision for the future of our country
Very upright straight to the point briefing by Gen sir rgds
I completely agree with General sir, Women empowerment is no priority over National security, If you want equality stop asking for empowerment
Government for their political correctness is doing such moves .
They can be employed in various other sectors and yes ever country has different perspectives towards women.
India is still not ready for it.
They can be employed in various other branches but not in combat roles.
Combat is altogether a different game
@@kumarakash8408 National security cannot be achieved until all Indian citizens are empowered. Agnipath deserves far more criticism than women officers in combat.
@@rdc515 Agneever definitely deserve criticism and scrapping also but this virus of Feminism is Degrading our Society, Women had enough empowerment no need of giving more
@@pkm3173 Look, nobody is "sending" women anywhere. Keep the vacancies open and let women volunteet for combat, including counter terrorism roles. Enough women in India are stronger than men from many regions. Punjabi, Haryanvi, rajasthani and northeastern women such as boxers and weightlifters can easily punch us into a chutney. I dont know what soft princesses are you thinking about. Let women volunteer for combat and let the fittest survive. Once the word about their experiences in combat spreads, you will automatically see only the superfit women volunteering for them and not the kind you are afraid will get hurt
@@kumarakash8408Virus of advantage-seeking is surely harmful. But that doesn't mean Feminism should be maligned, in fact it should be reclaimed because it talks even about Men's equal rights. We are letting selfish women hijack feminism. And bro if you think women are empowered enough already, surely you are triggered because of something personal because 71 percent of Indian women still being financially dependent on others is not a definition of empowerment.
The general spoken the brut truth without any ado & in most civilised manner. Government & Judiciary must understand that & as per practical recommendation only 2-3 branches they should be allowed where they can do in a safer place & men do the job of army which they meant for.
My belief is simple women want to be in army than they have to yo through same physical standards
15 minutes into video my belief was shattered 😂 am i that fickeled mimded
Yes but now many feminist will say how can we match the physical standards with men when they are naturally more stronger,feminist just need excuses to get a safe and better place of opportunity
As a woman I agree
What Gen Sengar has spoken is nothing but the TRUTH. My experiences and views are the same. But neither the judiciary nor the politicians fight. Therefore, the call must come from the Generals
Brother society doesn’t change by dialog, today dialog is a form of manipulation & guilt traps. Society change by example & courage to be example. If a woman want to be equal to a man then live, act, work & most of all suffer like a man. You can’t expect to get salary of ceo but work like manager.
Disagree with some points. Army has rules like how long an officer/jawan can be deployed in siachen. For eg. 3-4 months is the norm. Because army know the limitations of a human is that they can for long periods stay in the cold. So now the rules are made with that in consideration. Humans have limitations nobody is perfect and women have different limitations than men. Why can't we provide those facilitiesand then see how they perform. Building a cresh in a peace area isn't that hard. Why not. We build hospitals for injured men, don't we or do we just let them stay with injury.
I agree that the criteria for an officer shouldn't be lowered but both men and women should be given facilities to enable them to have equal footing. Sure you shouldn't be able to refuse a posting, but whatever is required for the posting should be given to the officer.
General SENGAR well said, NO ONE IS AGAINST WOMEN they are gr8 because god has made them for greater role Only they can be mothers men cant, Let them do their job and men should do their own.
Well I being a girl agree with this opinion ,and things we experience we learn and it's more physical than mental which is little less in women but I think even not every man can't join army so we can let it be what army is
See. Army is not for everyone . The army is not for every male ( men). There are some specific parameters for joining the army. He who suits with parameters of army. Then only he could.
Just because man is man, he can join the army. Not.
@ADARSHKUMAR-xm8ro well I too have written the same 😅sir
@ADARSHKUMAR-xm8ro sorry can was misplaced with can't
@@PayalRai-ge7cv that's why I'm saying that let the army deal their affairs. Men and women both can be soldiers. But when the enemies are motivated by fanatic ideology like Islam and enemy like Pakistan. Then you have to accept that the army is for men.
You can see how many women have been exploited in WW 1 and WW2. Women are always a target for the enemies.
Even the end number of spy women brutality raped and tortured. Most of the spy women were missing and raped.
We need to increase awareness on this, there are many things activities during training in many cases a female solider get concession in exercises just because she is a woman, the judiciary needs to understand that militant will not see that the solider is male or female during war both of them must have the same training to face such situations
What voice and knowledge you have about the subject sir, a lieutenant general woman officer said this in NDTV long back that " when surplus men are there what is the need of role women in defence services..we need them in other forces like CRPF and anti naxal forces..
Truth - difficult to accept and digest. But judges know everything.
As a seafarer,I fully agree with the General.
Nicely put across all the views
Clarity and Frank
Pearls of wisdom truly
Thanks, kind of you
Women entered army as short service commissioned officers, it has been more than three decades. They've gone to courts for being Commanding Officers for grant of permanent commission. They want to be leaders of male soldiers and thats their alter egos. Till date none of the lady officers have gone to court that women should be enrolled in Other Ranks as if they already know that women will not be able to rough it out in conditions where males do. Just want to enjoy as officers want to be leaders without ever knowing or understanding what subordinates do, what kind of leader would they be if they cant even sit with their men
From this episode, GOI should not allowed the women and all the women who refused duties should be dismissed. With this i am sure all will be dismissed.Please adjust women in other
establishments like school teacher.This is shameful that JAG branch officer refused to perform duty and went to court.When army establishment will start dismiss for disobeying command all will not apply for permanent commission.Advocate
I don't see any women leading operations in Rashtriya rifles, special forces, LRPs in HAA, Siachen posts. Why ❓ they are supposed to be equally good as men......hope they do commando and jungle warfare courses with same standards too before considering themselves equally fit to command.
Right perspective.
The politicians beurucrats judges who sent women into armed forces will rue the day when they go into combat . The fighting effeciency 😢of the regiments and combat efficiency has decreased proportionatly
Great insight it would more interesting if you'll invite a lady officer to really analyse how a women tackle with these type of situations.
Very impressive insight
Superb analysis. Would love to hear about your next book ' Politicks without politicians ', you just mentioned.
He is spitting truth😊
My question is how you are taking such people as an officers in Army. One who have problem in sitting with their fellow soldier.
impressive sir .. totally agree ..
One sport men and women compete together are the equestrian sports
Fair point, but in that sport the horse does most of the work
😀👍
Great observation sir...
But Leading men into war or Combat zone is not riding horses in a secured environment with people cheering for u ..!
😊There is a difference
Make women a CO if they can pass same physical test n mental test as their male counterpart while removing paternity leave then only we have zero objection... I mean women constable is acceptable without requirements of passing same test as men, but in military force is way above feminism n women empowerment..
Sir soldier or officer ....is not the concern it should be gender......
Understand the constraints...of female officer.... biological difference exist....
Lets see women doing something similar to Maj Unnikrishnan or Vardarajan or Anuj Sood or Mohit Sharma ???! Sitting in ordinance corps and MES , POGs (people other than Grunts) can yapp a lot, tell them to come on ground, carry RLs and Mortars and do patrolling and taking fire from enemies, US Marines have got hit injured and lost lives trying to protect their madam officers in Afg..why do they only want command roles and a real commander leads by example, the officers who i mentioned did that! They are true leaders , sitting and yapping you've no right over anything, you've to earn it, crying sexism will only make jawans lose trust over you, make them annoyed and they'll not follow your command anymore
Not being with the negatives but i absolutely agree with his concern!
I don't know why in India we are keep on comparing with other European armies. There problem that they don't have enough population to do these types of tough jobs, so they made compulsory service. However, in our case, it's voluntary service. In india for a single vacancy, there are thousands of contenders.
Women be kept safe, simple.
It should be more as backup... when their is no other option....
Challenges != Responsibility
Haha! This is a true copy of the channel ‘Diary of a CEO’. Like kuch toh original karlo!!
No need of women in the armed forces
Extremely pin pointed replies with due regard to the role of ladies in our/ any society. Very very valid points of concern expressed by Gen Sengar.
I can only hope that political leadership, judiciary and military leadership will take a reasoned call on this issue.
Well done General Sengar. Well said.
Well put in.
7 days in a month they are out due there physiology issues .
Will you not allow comments that disagree with the general's point of view?
All views are welcome .Only then we will have a well rounded perspective and new thoughts.❤
@@rdc515 ur point of view are good but army is not for empowering women or spreading feminism.. and feminists only want higher posts in army…
There are other jobs also like driving vehicle or support to soldiers or jobs like chef .. but no feminist want to go there only for higher posts?
@@anilsengar5383 Thank you for your very kind response, General.
@@pkm3173 I agree that army is not for empowering women over men. Then why is army so interested in training female athletes?
A recent news report titled "Girls Sports Company: Inside Indian Army’s mission to turn teenage girls into champion athletes" quotes a serving army officer as saying: "They can get employment out of it, which wasn’t possible earlier. It was high time to support women athletes... The larger logic is that if you look at the Chinese Olympic medals, almost 65 per cent come from women. That is why we felt it was important to train girls…. I feel that India will benefit when the women athletes are very strong.” In Pune, the army selected only 24 women out of 1100 applicants. At Mhow, the army selected only 11 shooters from 1200 women applicants.
This was just one example to make the argument that Indian armed forces themselves are interested in women empowerment because they believe that India as a whole will neither be empowered nor be secure if women fall behind. And the numbers cited above clearly show that even when it comes to sports selections, army does not dilute its standards to favour girls.
Now, I disagree with the idea that Feminists are invading our Army. I don't think that the first women officers were selected because some feminists protested at Jantar Mantar. If you think feminists are only interested in soft jobs that is why they are interested in becoming officers, this means you think Indian Army officer training produces softies? Or may be just the OTA produces softies? I don't think that comfort-seeking feminists even apply for the army. Look at the demographics from where Indian women become officers, you'll find that either they come from regions which are well known for tough women or they are hailing from military families themselves.
If seeking comfort was the problem, please do check with the army how many upper class, rich boys want to join the army these days. I don't think that pseudo-feminists apply to join the army. They simply won't survive the hardships.
I'll tell you one of the real reasons Army opened the door for women officers at first and not jawans. Any officer will tell you that jawans come from villages and they are not psychologically ready to salute women superiors. So this actually means that women were originally recruited as officers because military leaders were quite afraid that women jawans will be handled very badly by our male jawans. Secondly, 100 percent Indian fathers and brothers would have panicked if family's doll was asked to share tents with jawans. Indian women are soft because we keep them soft. It is a Indian Navy officer's daughter who has recently made a record of climbing 7000ft+ peaks on each continent - proof that when fathers want, women can be raised to be tough too. It is majority of Indian men who want to keep women soft because it serves our selfish purposes.
When there is the issue of Agnipath or women officers' sexual harrassment complaints, we argue that army should handle these issues internally and public would not understand. I would argue that if a handful of women COs performed poorly, the army should have made sure not to leak these reports to civilians who are now pointing to the issue to say women are unfit for the job. Army should have dealt with this internally.
There are Generals who have already disagreed with the news about women COs, publicly so on youtube.
Lastly, when male civil servants or politicians are found to be corrupt or pathetic leaders we don't say bar men from these professions. Why are we quick to jump on this "bar women from combat" because a few women didn't perform well"?
If you think feminism is a corrupt ideology, you and I must help make it a better ideology because truly strong, independent women make our burden lighter as men. We must not allow corrupt women to abuse feminism just as we don't wish to allow corrupt men to abuse our cherished values.
well covered, did not cover the relationship and sexuality issues tha also arise in unit
People are saying India is different from west , let me ask you how many women fighters you saw in ukraine war.
Militaries throughout the world have very less to offer for women.
If she wants to be part of army let her prove her mettle not out of sympathy.
Even as a woman i find this ridiculous and agree with ur points sir
The Republic day parade face isn't a face but a facade of Army.
Atleast someone has the courage too speak the truth.
Necessity is Mother of Invention. What was the requirement of National Security to enroll women in Defense Forces??
When there is no dearth of perfectly fit Male candidates, then why put Women in harm's way?
People need to understand the requirement and what is required to defend us.
Hope India wakes up before being embarrassed
She can’t sit at the back but choose to sit a Gypsy front seat? WTF was wrong with her
Issue of feminism came much later. The senior military leadership of late 80s and 90s didn’t think through this issue at all. A matter of yes sir, yes sir three bags full. Also a lot of women who joined the Fauj were related to Army officers. No point cribbing now. As they say in the Army; get on with it. The political leadership and senior judiciary has no time for sentiments expressed by Gen Senger. A day will come when even transgender’s will be accepted in the Army! All it will take is an order by the MOD! And again the senior military leadership will say; yes sir yes sir, all bags full. 😢
Security of Cantonment for lady officers spouses are civilians in future. Is big issue people are not talking about
Security of Cantonment for lady officers spouses are civilians in future. Is big issue people are not talking
3 months old? 😂😂 what she wanted to show?
These are isolated examples and they should have been dealt with as discipline cases. All women officers leave behind their children to go on exercise, courses, temporary duties etc. it’s the norm. It happens all the time.
So to put it In perspective…this is a one sided story of some not so pleasant personal experiences.
I had feedback that many Lady officer make life hell for jawans because of there arrogance.
It was an amazing podcast but there's one point where I disagree. The point where sir says that there's no competition where men n women compete together, so in my opinion inclusion of women in army is not for competition, as sir said both have different capabilities so i believe that inclusion of women in army is imp to use both their capabilities well and secure the nation together. Jai hind
Firstly they r not lady officer..... they r women officer...for this also few r pulled 😂😂
The host should be capable enough to raise counterpoint and questions. Bringing one sided view shows only the myopic view of scheme of things. For your information, there was not one Rani Laxmi Bai, there were n number of such women in our history, misinformed people make bad policies. Host, your choice of subject was poor. You are not capable enough to nor ask questions on this subject neither you are capable enough to present the whole rotunda of geosocietal dynamics. Just two men bickering about women......kudos.....but it was not something new
The veteran officer is bickering ? Do you have patience to listen to him? Have you faced the situations he has faced? You are just another pseudo
okay crybaby give some counterpoints yourself. Forget Lakmi Bai, in the present scenario if women denny themselves such opportunities of courses and learning just to look after their personnel lives like the officer said, how are they in a position to earn the respect of those they lead ? And I am sure not all women in the forces are like that, in countries like Isreal, the women are groomed to be equally hardened combatants and leaders, they set apart their personnel lives and need to choose that to be a sacrfice. You dont join the millitary to show how proud you are and serve in a neat uniform with spit and polish and medals, then you joined for the wrong reasons. I would be happy if you can provide me some more information if you think this point is all invalid, that the host brought up
5 lines written....no facts given...that itself explain your point
@@shagird6317 A frog in the well basically...The General !!😅
@@vijinair2205are you talking about yourself.
Because you dont deserve to talk about general saab with such attitude
Sir, they are also incapable
Buddy they are far better than ur type of people, there are challenges but they need real reasons to be denied
Y not just have separate women Batallon, Brigade, Divya, Corps, Army , problem solved but for Supre court of India wolho would want 50% Army for men and women