The Real History of ℝ𝕦𝕝𝕖 𝟛𝟜

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  • @Lextorias
    @Lextorias  11 місяців тому +6454

    The video is still monetized! 👍
    Here's a couple of updates/corrections:
    1. I'm well aware "hentai" is only used in the West to describe Japanese-created adult works. When I said "no English equivalent to hentai" I meant a word to describe Western-created adult works, not an English word to describe adult works in general.
    2. The original creator of the first Ankha animation was minus8, and ZONE's work was based off of that. However, minus8 had a lot of complicated stuff happen to them, and I wasn't sure if they'd even want me to talk about them publicly, so I didn't mention them.
    3. The admin of the Paheal website reached out to me, to solve the mystery of where the site's name came from! According to their email "The name "Paheal" came from a tshirt my friend was wearing the day I registered the domain. The shirt had some mage guy from Ragnarok online next to the word "Pa-Heal" which apparently means "Heal, please!" in Tagalog."
    I have a screenshot of the full email up on twitter if you want to read it: twitter.com/lextorias/status/1750052996069867656

    • @3magikarpinamansuit281
      @3magikarpinamansuit281 11 місяців тому +148

      Anyone who didn't get the first point, it's their bad. I read the comment before the point in the video and was expecting something more WAY more vague.

    • @SpongeSebastian
      @SpongeSebastian 11 місяців тому +80

      I always pronounced Paheal in my head as "pa-HEAL" with the second syllable stressed. Hearing the first syllable stressed, like it's "PAW heal" sounds so weird to me lol

    • @gustavoaugustodecavalcante9288
      @gustavoaugustodecavalcante9288 11 місяців тому +46

      man, i sincerily just clicked on your vid just to see your opinion quickly and then jump to another ytube video, but here i am congratulating you for that amazing work, i've never saw such charisma, interest and dedication on really making an interesting content, you've won not only a like but an active subscriber

    • @bentonmarcum8924
      @bentonmarcum8924 11 місяців тому +5

      The what of the main character.?

    • @PhantomTheObeserver1857
      @PhantomTheObeserver1857 11 місяців тому +28

      I must say that sometimes even the history of r34 is interesting.

  • @robinnewhouse1563
    @robinnewhouse1563 Рік тому +8950

    Bro really turned that "I need that for research purposes" meme into reality

    • @TheDSasterX
      @TheDSasterX 11 місяців тому +56

      I would upvote, but it's at 666

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 11 місяців тому +66

      That's true dedication to meme craft

    • @robinnewhouse1563
      @robinnewhouse1563 11 місяців тому +21

      @@TheDSasterX I respect that haha
      same with 69

    • @Hypo101
      @Hypo101 11 місяців тому +8

      I’m surprised there’s 1.3k likes but only 3 comments, but that was hilarious

    • @elsandosgrande
      @elsandosgrande 11 місяців тому +4

      @@Hypo101Make that five now 🙂

  • @NubNublet
    @NubNublet 11 місяців тому +3459

    The "PM Tom" thing is no joke. I once PMed him for a very specific problem I was having, and he replied to me within a day saying he'd fixed it for me. This guy's an absolute legend.

    • @CaptainCFalcon
      @CaptainCFalcon 11 місяців тому +349

      Yeah, Tom is great. A true rarity amongst mankind these days, he's truly dedicated to the wellbeing of his website. Nothing but respect for the guy.

    • @ttretinoinn
      @ttretinoinn 11 місяців тому +329

      lol when I was about 12 I PMed Tom asking him how he made the website and he really did respond to me not too long after. Young me was surprised because I didn’t really expect a response.

    • @Applesgosh
      @Applesgosh 11 місяців тому +68

      based

    • @davidmcdonnel4831
      @davidmcdonnel4831 10 місяців тому +41

      Tom is a genius.

    • @alau5643
      @alau5643 10 місяців тому +40

      Toms a fucking legend 😂

  • @masterofbloopers
    @masterofbloopers 11 місяців тому +2656

    My favorite Overwatch porn moment was when Blizzard went "We encrypted the models for our Overwatch 2 characters! Let's see you try and use them to make porn now!", only for the encryption to be cracked the next day or so.

    • @ZoeBateman
      @ZoeBateman 11 місяців тому +427

      If there’s one way to get the internet to break your encryption so they don’t make porn of your characters, it’s by taunting them that they can’t do it

    • @Halo916_
      @Halo916_ 10 місяців тому +191

      3 days. It took 3 days for the internet to break the encryption

    • @m-seb
      @m-seb 9 місяців тому +164

      My favourite part was the post showing the ripped 3D model getting more likes than the release trailer of the game itself.

    • @Dexthedoge
      @Dexthedoge 9 місяців тому +7

      Didn't it take like an hour for Overwatch one?

    • @Dedoutside890
      @Dedoutside890 8 місяців тому +1

      Whattt no way, where?

  • @alexv1154
    @alexv1154 10 місяців тому +1747

    I remember playing flash games on Newgrounds as a kid, crazy that I was a few clicks away from shattering my childhood brain

    • @jerry12314
      @jerry12314 10 місяців тому +75

      I remember the b j game in anime style art (of course) where you are a college girl and to pay for tuition you apply in a glory hole club for quick buck and you have to service men and theirs come out of hole in different, shapes and sizes and if you really good you become famous get more patrons and money. I forgot the name but maybe someone can remind us here. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @DarkEnigma1115
      @DarkEnigma1115 10 місяців тому +19

      ​@@jerry12314For me it was the Tarzan porn animation (or was it a game?) that was my first interaction with Newgrounds. I was 8 at the time. That was around the time Johnny Rocketfingers had just released.

    • @PB-ie8cj
      @PB-ie8cj 9 місяців тому +36

      I remember i used to browse Newgrounds a lot with a friend back in the day as kids. He once dared me to click into the mature section. Trying to be edgy, and thinking we'd find very violent and/or gory animations, i clicked on it.
      My life changed forever after that.

    • @40kanon
      @40kanon 9 місяців тому +7

      MnF Cruise. Now that was a game. *Sips monster*

    • @saeki_san
      @saeki_san 8 місяців тому +1

      @@40kanon bahahaha, i didn't expect someone to remember that
      The nami one was weird

  • @ramen2032
    @ramen2032 11 місяців тому +6468

    The fact that i knew all the female Overwatch characters and their names without ever playing the game says something about its legacy regarding adult media.

    • @xXRealXx
      @xXRealXx 11 місяців тому +215

      ahahaha, they are *truly* popular

    • @wr0ng569
      @wr0ng569 11 місяців тому +412

      It also says something about you

    • @xXRealXx
      @xXRealXx 11 місяців тому

      @@wr0ng569 ...that he watches porn. Boo hoo, big deal /s

    • @GhostRider-un9gm
      @GhostRider-un9gm 11 місяців тому +159

      Says more about you, you know ALL of them.

    • @parsifalkitty5109
      @parsifalkitty5109 11 місяців тому +88

      It's how I learned about different games with female protagonist or something along those lines. Didn't know about Nier until it showed up on my feed.

  • @jordivaliente4113
    @jordivaliente4113 Рік тому +13269

    This man really traveled all the way to the fortnite island just to record this. That's dedication.

  • @ILostMyOreos
    @ILostMyOreos Рік тому +3948

    This is, actually, unironically, really great Internet history. Like, you're really rolling the dice on this even with the censorship. So, thanks for sharing this

    • @tilloboucherie1973
      @tilloboucherie1973 Рік тому +8

      So true

    • @liammcnicholas918
      @liammcnicholas918 Рік тому +23

      The thumbnail should’ve just been the Scott the Woz scene where he explains the AO rating

    • @catedoge3206
      @catedoge3206 11 місяців тому +2

      yes

    • @ForumArcade
      @ForumArcade 11 місяців тому +3

      UA-cam really doesn't like the comments section of this video. 😂 Comments are getting deleted left and right just because people are trying to discuss "adult art".

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 10 місяців тому

      insanely astute filter-avoidance tho!

  • @invertexyz
    @invertexyz 10 місяців тому +250

    41:33 A note about Gfycat, they didn't technically wipe it, they split the website off into a subsidiary called "Redgifs" and transferred identified NSFW content over to those servers. They shortly after sold Redgifs to a new owner since I guess they didn't want to manage what was essentially a porn website, and now Gfycat has been shut down but Redgifs lives on haha

  • @outfoxies
    @outfoxies 11 місяців тому +3124

    Shad getting busted for assault is like Al Capone getting busted for tax evasion

    • @LordNecron
      @LordNecron 11 місяців тому +364

      The funny thing is, while most people remember Shadman's unhinged Guro phase (early on), his way too long Loli phase, or his obsession with farts in general (plus stuff made by others, but hosted by Shad for a long time, like the weird stuff JLullaby made), Shad is actually a quite talented artist when he puts his mind on it.

    • @outfoxies
      @outfoxies 11 місяців тому +193

      @@LordNecron you hate to see it, really

    • @CaptainCFalcon
      @CaptainCFalcon 11 місяців тому +299

      ​@@LordNecronthe scariest thing is that most of the most talented artists were motivated to get that good because of their specific & widely taboo fetishes.

    • @PaulHenning84
      @PaulHenning84 11 місяців тому +10

      You have a pokemon PFP.

    • @SageArdor
      @SageArdor 11 місяців тому +110

      ​@@CaptainCFalcon kinda like how Stanley Kubrick may have been one of the world's best filmmakers in history, but he frequently abused his cast and crew to achieve the perfection he chased.

  • @ZONEsama
    @ZONEsama Рік тому +8317

    Thanks so much for covering this subject in such an impartial and informative manner! I'm sure people will be referencing your video for many years to come.
    Ever since my mom accidentally rented me Urotsukidoji instead of Urusei Yatsura when I was way too young, I've never been the same. I have the letters that Nintendo sent me back in 2003 to demand I stop drawing Pokemon porn to prove it ;)

    • @custos3249
      @custos3249 Рік тому +532

      Fancy seeing you pop up. And to think, it's people like you who make me wish I'd not given up on grad school for psychology. For every 10000 soccer mom's frustrated with their husband's obsession with lawn care, sans innuendo, there's one like you. Thanks for being weird.

    • @ZONEsama
      @ZONEsama Рік тому +1

      np

    • @briannairb793
      @briannairb793 Рік тому +505

      Holy fuck it's zonesama everyone stay calm

    • @amxaas4450
      @amxaas4450 Рік тому +188

      Where is my parody of cory in the house?

    • @redrocket8062
      @redrocket8062 Рік тому +117

      Aw snap it's the living legend Zone-sama!

  • @ronethegreat9
    @ronethegreat9 Рік тому +1506

    Finally someone was brave enough to do this unironically important dive into internet history.

    • @ForumArcade
      @ForumArcade 11 місяців тому +12

      UA-cam is deleting a hell of a lot of comments under this video though, stifling important discussions.

  • @AlexisRoyce
    @AlexisRoyce 10 місяців тому +191

    This was a fantastic video! The instant you mentioned Tijuana Bibles, I knew that you were absolutely taking this subject seriously. I make adult games, and it breaks my heart to see the way that wonderful work by my peers can just get wiped away from the internet at a moment's notice. Thank you for the warm and unflinching respect you showed the subject matter and the artists you discussed!

    • @rnts08
      @rnts08 5 місяців тому

      Does steam work for you guys?

  • @v.slavov
    @v.slavov Рік тому +3205

    Shoutout to creators who actually put some characterization and progression through several scenes in the work rather then just flooding the tags with 10sec humping loops.

    • @LiarraSniffles_X3
      @LiarraSniffles_X3 Рік тому +96

      Half the time I white-list the 'finish' because it's just not as good without a thick payoff.

    • @dragonoflocniroth
      @dragonoflocniroth Рік тому +238

      There is not a ton of high quality animations, but the high quality ones are gold.

    • @MDG-mykys
      @MDG-mykys Рік тому +29

      Hey, maybe they're just starting

    • @enricohepner
      @enricohepner Рік тому +47

      *cough* You might like Spizzy's 5 minute Marie Rose animation with like 6/7 poses *cough*

    • @slippyfruit8538
      @slippyfruit8538 11 місяців тому

      @@enricohepner ayo

  • @Meep3692
    @Meep3692 11 місяців тому +1660

    An important thing to know about Metadata is that it isn't just Canadian, it was made by the Canadian government. It was made by the National Film Board using a computer owned by the National Research Council.

    • @navb0tactual
      @navb0tactual 11 місяців тому +223

      Now this is a good use of my tax dollars

    • @formes2388
      @formes2388 11 місяців тому +45

      That really isn't important. It is important to actually understand WHAT Metadata is. If you walk into a Public Library (or any Library) you can see a physical representation - Categorizing books under Author, and Genre. The difference with a digital database - especially a relational database, you can arbitrarily re-arrange everything based on well... information about it.
      So - why do we want metadata? Because it ultimately enables us to understand relationships of content created. It allows us to easily process data in all kinds of ways while linking the old and new (ex. Creating a thumbnail version, or creating a water marked version, and making it easy to serve the relevant one).
      So while Author + Genre is about the extent at which you can go within a physical library. Within digital? Aspect Ration, Resolution, Photo types, and more are all useful. We can use keyword tagging as well. By the time we get through every way we can categorize data we end up with the comprehensive list of what can be metadata. In many ways - being able to look up a film based on the actors in it is a result of Metadata and relational databases.
      So it doesn't matter really who created it: Odds are plenty of entities were doing something similar. Because it's actually useful.
      The one thing that LITERALLY EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THOUGH IS: Metadata is DATA.

    • @Peeper117
      @Peeper117 11 місяців тому +6

      DAM

    • @pickle4422
      @pickle4422 11 місяців тому +8

      @@navb0tactual exactly. fuck socialized healthcare.

    • @SpringySpring04
      @SpringySpring04 11 місяців тому +4

      @Meep3692 momiji pfp spotted!!

  • @cynth4941
    @cynth4941 11 місяців тому +761

    One thing I will say is that a lot of NSFW content creators ended up contributing to the Blender scene in many ways, such as bug reports, addons, suggestions and even code PRs. In fact, there's even a famous NSFW artist named Mets that was hired and is still to this day working to Blender Corporation, if I'm not mistaken he's the main guy behind CloudRig, he's still active in NSFW communities like Smutbase every now and then, along with other Blender employees as well.
    Some Blender addons made by people in the NSFW community that I know of are: Simplicage, Bonedynamics, Fluid Painter, MustardSimplify & MustardUi, etc.
    No breakthrough to be found here, although it's definitely a really big use of Blender

    • @willyeeton4390
      @willyeeton4390 11 місяців тому +76

      "Fluid painter" yeah, i bet

    • @cynth4941
      @cynth4941 11 місяців тому

      @@willyeeton4390 It originally was a NSFW free addon that was used exactly for what you're thinking lol
      Free NSFW version still exists, but the guy made a paid SFW version with normal fluids like ketchup, chocolate topping and other food stuff. Seems to be doing well on Blender Market

    • @CyanRooper
      @CyanRooper 11 місяців тому +29

      Bonedynamics tho 👀

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 11 місяців тому

      Funny how a good nude model still looks good with clothing on it, almost like it was built from the inside out!

    • @damedalilly3290
      @damedalilly3290 10 місяців тому +8

      But NSFW art has also contributed to a lot of problematic depictions of underage characters, sexual assault etc. It also feeds into this very perverse need to sexualize everything especially in genres like anime.

  • @wh3nderson95
    @wh3nderson95 10 місяців тому +576

    It really says a lot about me when I recognize the animators and artists the journalist mentions.

    • @univon4892
      @univon4892 9 місяців тому +19

      Same...

    • @adjacent_dollar
      @adjacent_dollar 6 місяців тому +26

      "wow bro i have a porn addiction its so funny!!!1!1!!!!"

    • @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
      @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 6 місяців тому

      ​@@adjacent_dollarjesus christ youre tone deaf

    • @Codedx5
      @Codedx5 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@@adjacent_dollar "i have roblox addiction its cringe"

    • @adjacent_dollar
      @adjacent_dollar 6 місяців тому +10

      @@Codedx5 A profile picture isn't an addiction? Would I say that you have a computer addiction due to your pfp? Because by your logic; *I would*

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 11 місяців тому +1453

    Nintendo in general has this funny little habit of going absolutely ballistic on just about every matter related to copyright.

    • @xXRealXx
      @xXRealXx 11 місяців тому +147

      they are just assholes when it comes to copyright

    • @LeonelLAURE
      @LeonelLAURE 11 місяців тому +8

      When? I’ve never heard them doing it in gaming news.

    • @xXRealXx
      @xXRealXx 11 місяців тому

      @@LeonelLAURE Nintendo took down Rom sites. Took Dolphin off Steam. Hates mods. For a long time they would copyright strike any gameplay videos on UA-cam if the youtuber didn't have permission from Nintendo IIRC, they forbid some fan event related to video games from happening and boy Nintendo has done a lot of other asshole things that I don't know about/don't remmeber

    • @KingsBard
      @KingsBard 11 місяців тому

      ​@@LeonelLAUREYou're kidding right? They constantly take down fangames like Ocarina2d, Am2r, and Pokémon Uranium

    • @minecraftomat123
      @minecraftomat123 11 місяців тому +48

      Or their communities just having fun. Namely SSBU Pro Scene

  • @ashhancox1931
    @ashhancox1931 Рік тому +466

    I think it’s absolutely incredible that you managed to do all of this research with one hand

  • @ryanp5562
    @ryanp5562 11 місяців тому +124

    Just wanted to say that it's super fresh to watch a long form video like this with so much dedication to citing your sources. Good work, great vid!

  • @ruinedshadows
    @ruinedshadows Рік тому +281

    had to go tab over to patreon to give this one a proper watch and i'm glad i did! thought you deserved more than just $1 for your effort, so here's this :) this is really important history and i'm glad it's being documented one way or another!! always love your content! keep up the good work!

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  Рік тому +52

      Thank you so much!

    • @Q27Forever
      @Q27Forever Рік тому

      Fixed shadows

    • @ruinedshadows
      @ruinedshadows Рік тому

      @@Q27Forever no one can fix these shadows. many have tried in the past. but alas, they stay ruined.

    • @Arzamol5
      @Arzamol5 Рік тому +5

      @@ruinedshadows Update 202.4 Patch Notes: Fixed a glitch that made certain shadows unfixable. The rest is up to you.

    • @blankfacekillah1013
      @blankfacekillah1013 Рік тому

      ​@@Lextoriasyou got your 20 bucks 😂

  • @Shenkle-qx5bu
    @Shenkle-qx5bu Рік тому +960

    Whenever someone tells you no Nintendo game was intended to be s3xulised. Don't forget that Miyamoto TOLD rare to make that blue fox more sexy and the creator of the animal crossing games wanted them to be far more adult than what was allowed (It's why villagers could be very flirtatious and even horny with others in the first game). The history of which is fascinating.

    • @Gorgamak
      @Gorgamak Рік тому

      Peaches vibrator

    • @sushiroll3795
      @sushiroll3795 Рік тому +169

      Didn't they also literally hire a porn artist to design the characters in Xenoblade Chronicles 2?

    • @Shenkle-qx5bu
      @Shenkle-qx5bu Рік тому +152

      @sushiroll3795 pokemon too. They hired a few to be mon designers. Explains why they got progressively more human.

    • @bioticsla
      @bioticsla Рік тому +41

      @@sushiroll3795 fate grand order too

    • @Hahmier
      @Hahmier Рік тому +71

      Don't forget peaches vibrat0r in one of the paper Mario games.

  • @wfjhDUI
    @wfjhDUI 11 місяців тому +1074

    37:29 I love the odd word choice in "whoever is doing the Elizabeth porn on deviantart, please stop it", which makes it sound like there's a single mysterious artist who never sleeps and is just drawing 24/7, somehow singlehandedly flooding DeviantArt with porn. No one knows who they are and we're powerless to stop them. We had such a wholesome and upstanding Christian internet until that person came along... 😔

    • @ethanstyant9704
      @ethanstyant9704 11 місяців тому +76

      Granted some artists are just unironically like that

    • @jdcp8976
      @jdcp8976 11 місяців тому +20

      Well it was 2014 and, more importantly, thats one of the guys who made the fucking character... it kinda makes sense after that.

    • @welton9748
      @welton9748 11 місяців тому +16

      And this one artist is the reason God has forsaken us a second time. There is no salvation anywhere we go 😞

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 11 місяців тому

      Nice joke

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch 11 місяців тому +27

      it's like the "who is this 4chan person" one

  • @foncess
    @foncess 10 місяців тому +192

    One of the main reasons I haven’t quit twitter yet is because it’s one of the few social media sites where NSFW media can be freely posted. Not even just r34, if your interests are explicit in any way, it feels like you’re forced to use twitter, risk being banned constantly, or find a subreddit which god knows I’m not doing.

    • @foncess
      @foncess 10 місяців тому +6

      I would’ve moved to tumblr or something ages ago if it didn’t ban everything

    • @jamespulver3890
      @jamespulver3890 6 місяців тому +20

      Isn't this like the point of 4chan though? I honestly can't fathom why anyone would post NSFW on normal social media. Then again, I've never understood twitter either.

    • @foncess
      @foncess 6 місяців тому

      @@jamespulver3890 4chan has a lot of purposes. I used to use it, but I’ve grown really sick of the people on the boards I like

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@jamespulver3890 You're really showing your age with this one

    • @optimumplatinum2640
      @optimumplatinum2640 5 місяців тому

      ​@@jamespulver38904chan is no man's land

  • @djgamer5546
    @djgamer5546 11 місяців тому +481

    Well, I got to this video through reccomendations so whatever things UA-cam might usually do to supress a video like this clearly aren't working. Amazing work by the way. Just subscribed.

    • @aaliyah5347
      @aaliyah5347 11 місяців тому +1

      A little later but same. xD

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 10 місяців тому +6

      honestly, lexitorias' self-censorship skills are top-notch. or rather, filter-avoidance strategies. he could legit do a follow-up video on what his exact focuses were on when editing stuff out.

  • @LAK_770
    @LAK_770 Рік тому +789

    I was recently shocked to learn that the R34 character "Elizabeth" became so popular that she got her own $100M video game. Though it's weird that they slimmed her down so much and got rid of the other thing.

  • @watcherofall11
    @watcherofall11 Рік тому +415

    Fun furry fact: the first image on e621 is image 13 as 1-12 were test images and removed from the site
    Great work on researching obscure stuff I didn't know I wanted to know about.

  • @TheAngryMoth104
    @TheAngryMoth104 9 місяців тому +69

    I'm surprised there was no mention of VanRipper and Helltaker, the guy who wanted to see more hot demon girls in suits, so he made a game and encouraged people to draw r34 of them.

  • @donovian111
    @donovian111 11 місяців тому +405

    I remember an Economist article from the early 2010s that compared vintage vs modern adult content to steak vs crisps. Can't directly quote, but there was a line about "Now you can just have one after another."

    • @InservioLetum
      @InservioLetum 10 місяців тому +11

      Wait does that last line refer to steak or crisps?
      Or... do I have an eating disorder?

    • @donovian111
      @donovian111 10 місяців тому +53

      @@InservioLetum Crisps. They were saying adult content used to be more rare, like a pinup or a VHS tape you have to go out and buy. Requiring more effort like a steak. But the quote was saying that with the advent of the internet, you can simply log on, google a phrase, and suddenly find yourself with an entire assortment of adult content at your fingertips. Like opening a bag of crisps.

    • @InservioLetum
      @InservioLetum 10 місяців тому

      @@donovian111 a phrase? Don't you mean a number? Say... six digits?

  • @samburden5053
    @samburden5053 Рік тому +812

    Fun fact: tody fox told artists to make corn of his characters to boost awaerness of his game. This was at the point were undertale was not well known. For deltarune, he commisioned a character that was designed pretty explicitly to draw attention away from r34 of the main characters. Tasq manager, a dominatrix, cat, robot thing completly failed to do that, as the main characters, expesally raslei, got considerably more. Lesson of the story, carful what you wish for.

    • @512TheWolf512
      @512TheWolf512 Рік тому +100

      yo can scarcely predict what people will actually like, and when you try and placate them on purpose, you may be called out for being shallow

    • @samburden5053
      @samburden5053 Рік тому +76

      @@512TheWolf512 I would not want to invest in r34 stock. What gets popular is sometimes nothing you expect.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Рік тому +66

      ​@@samburden5053
      Like the Elizabeth example showed, it's often about the emotional connection. So predictable in a sense but a godless amount of work.

    • @bioticsla
      @bioticsla Рік тому +10

      ralsei my beloved

    • @samburden5053
      @samburden5053 Рік тому +48

      @@Alias_Anybody that was more true earlier on. Animal crossing got a lot of adult art because the entire point of the game was to bond earnestly with them and they already could flirt with you. But now R34 artists like more characters that have strong derivatives to conventional concepts that they can mass market + their popularity. What they are as a character, rather than the integrity of the media they belong to.

  • @timkelmer1268
    @timkelmer1268 Рік тому +1620

    I think the appreciation for r34 is pretty clear by the types of characters that are often most popular. Quite of few of the personas in the persona series are hyper sexulised, yet they dont get the same attention as the main casts.
    A lot of that is popularity, but I think that people find it satisfying to see characters in vastly different interpretations while retaining their derivative characteristics. It's exactly because those expressions are so different from their base derivatives, that when an artist can still make it transformative of that character's personality, aesthetics, and characteristics, it gives a greater appreciation for those traits that establish them.

    • @joebest6582
      @joebest6582 Рік тому +72

      That's basically canaryprimary with aggretsuko for me. They did a way better interpretation of haida's love interests than the show. Sometimes r34 cam show a better interpretation all together.

    • @vikingzeroone9647
      @vikingzeroone9647 Рік тому +44

      @@joebest6582 Absolutely. Despite the lewd nature of the animation, some of it - especially the more recent Aggretsuko one - doesn't immediately go straight into the action. It's slow burning, and it honestly shows the relationship between Haida and Fenneko.

    • @justafan-tn4ny
      @justafan-tn4ny Рік тому +9

      ​@@vikingzeroone9647interesting. Iv also seen alot of backlash of certain characters being lewded like the lady from the show "frienan"? Never seen it but apparently wholesome characters like that getting lewded sparks alot of rage, the response is generally, well don't look, its not for you. Outside of age, do you think every character is free game or are there untouchables

    • @timkelmer1268
      @timkelmer1268 Рік тому +1

      @@justafan-tn4ny what on earth are you talking about? I have looked up no references to this show.

    • @vikingzeroone9647
      @vikingzeroone9647 Рік тому +22

      @@justafan-tn4ny Personally, I don't mind it, but I tolerate it in a way like a spectrum - which is to say 90% of the spectrum is all okay with the lewd crap.
      The only thing I don't like is artists drawing actual people and putting them in sensual situations (I'm looking at you Shad) or de-aging them (again, looking at you Shad, especially with the Keemstar thing. If you know, you know).
      Apart from that, everything else is free game.

  • @at4nas
    @at4nas 11 місяців тому +47

    About the only person I've seen making a 1-hour video out of curiosity after encountering a tweet (or in this case, somewhat of a trend). Both your research and writing abilities seem to be levelling up as time goes on. Congrats on the well-done job.

  • @ibigfire
    @ibigfire Рік тому +1444

    One of the most important but often overlooked rule34 artists you missed, Minus8, actually made the Ankha animation you mentioned originally, then Zone remade their work. It was fine for them to do so, and both artists are awesome, it's just a shame to only mention Zone when Minus8 was also pivotal especially in that particular work and in music themed rule34 in general.

    • @RYClaude
      @RYClaude 11 місяців тому +17

      fr

    • @TopCape
      @TopCape 11 місяців тому +48

      It was more like a sequel inspired by his animation iirc, but yeah minus8 def should have been mentioned

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  11 місяців тому +487

      minus8 was in the original version of my script for this video, but with everything that's happened to them online I didn't quite know how to talk about them

    • @CidYurui
      @CidYurui 11 місяців тому +73

      ​@@Lextorias I didn't know what happened and hs, that is complicated. I think the best would've been to just say that Zone remade it without saying the original creator

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 11 місяців тому

      Afrobull, Cutesexyrobutts, Bhoris, etc...
      Not that I know about them, of course

  • @mrmoviemanic1
    @mrmoviemanic1 11 місяців тому +361

    I'm honestly weirdly heart-warmed by this. That said I have NEVER viewed this site and you can't prove I did.

    • @zsomborgyenge4359
      @zsomborgyenge4359 11 місяців тому +46

      We can't but your isp can prove it.

    • @maxscott3349
      @maxscott3349 11 місяців тому

      ​@@zsomborgyenge4359haha mull go brrrrrrr

    • @oompalumpus699
      @oompalumpus699 11 місяців тому +22

      I too have never watched Overwatch stuff on R34.
      Never.

    • @xXRealXx
      @xXRealXx 11 місяців тому +17

      @@oompalumpus699 yea, sure, and unicorns exist

    • @rob98000
      @rob98000 11 місяців тому

      ​@xXRealXx if it exists there is porn of it. There is porn of unicorns so clearly they exist.

  • @honilock577
    @honilock577 Рік тому +355

    My dude, you're quickly carving a really solid niche in the community. I've never seen a documentary about r34 before 😂

  • @Definitely_not_in_your_walls
    @Definitely_not_in_your_walls 10 місяців тому +22

    I can confirm that I've looked up every character on the thumbnail multiple times.

  • @almostcheesecake
    @almostcheesecake 11 місяців тому +237

    You're probably one of the only people that is willing and able to make such an interesting and comprehensive history lesson about this topic

  • @dexterity494
    @dexterity494 Рік тому +534

    "which is kinda wholesome if you think about it."
    No, I don't think I will.

  • @benjamingoto2099
    @benjamingoto2099 Рік тому +39

    Found this video from a twitter post mocking it, saying they're not spending an hour to watch the history of gooning on the internet.
    Having spent an hour watching the history of gooning on the internet, gotta say this is pretty great.

  • @glenndeH
    @glenndeH 11 місяців тому +77

    I started watching this video because haha funny prawn video, but this was a genuinely interesting, well researched, thoughtful look into something that could be considered its own art movement that gets swept under the rug because people are afraid of what the cultural Zeitgeist will think of them, of how others will perceive them even though everyone, yes, literally everyone, has seen smut at some point.

  • @empchi
    @empchi Рік тому +291

    Pyro's popularity is actually very easy to explain imo - they're the only not explicitly male (bc you can't see their face, body and their voice is distorted) playable character in a very popular game and also mask/latex fetishism.

  • @rickcoona
    @rickcoona 11 місяців тому +231

    i saw "Fritz The Cat" as a double feature with "Heavy Traffic" at the local drive in back in the early 1970's

  • @maskedfoxx7173
    @maskedfoxx7173 Рік тому +162

    I stg if this video gets demonetized I'm getting your Patreon. You deserve to be properly paid for all your hard work.

  • @nerdy8644
    @nerdy8644 9 місяців тому +21

    I cant believe r34 lore exists

  • @dertropenstein4897
    @dertropenstein4897 Рік тому +344

    An interesting point about the removed victory pose for tracer is, as Dan from NewFramePlus talked about, it wasn't necessarily removed for being "too sexual" rather than that sexuality being out of character for tracer (with widow actually keeping a similar pose with it being in character). This kinda adds to your point about a character being more popular when actually defined and formed.

    • @Tumbleflop
      @Tumbleflop 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@EEEEEEEEE

    • @The-jy3yq
      @The-jy3yq 11 місяців тому +22

      That kinda makes sense, but then Blizzard (in their infinite indie company wisdom) just slaps an ass and a massive rack on any female character they put into Overwatch
      you know there was porn of Ashe before Blizzcon was over for a reason
      I'm quite sure some of this problem can be traced to the independent lads exaggerrating and, frankly, _inflating_ the attention to the...assets (and the assets themselves), but come on Blizzard, why make skins that are in the game explicitly and only for fan service?
      at least you can get some damn fine milk over there

    • @apexhunter935
      @apexhunter935 11 місяців тому +1

      Dan also started extra credits and has his own older channel

    • @cammyshill3099
      @cammyshill3099 11 місяців тому +1

      @@The-jy3yq Uhh... You must be thinking of a very different Blizzard, the Blizzard that exists in reality replaces women with bowls of fruit and hasn't put a rack of anything on anyone for more than a decade at this point.

  • @Zinii
    @Zinii Рік тому +110

    I never thought I'd watch an hour long video on R34, but dammit you made it extremely interesting.
    Great video man, hope it brings you a lot of subs.

  • @0uttaS1TE
    @0uttaS1TE Рік тому +493

    One of the things that makes Rule34 so interesting is how easy it is to get into. Can you write? Got a cheap drawing tablet? Can your PC run Source? Congrats! You're halfway there! It's why Rule 34 is Rule 34, hell it's why fan content is so important. If you love a character or a ship, or disagree with their interpretation in material, or there's not enough of what you want, there is enough documentation, tutorials and free material for you to make it. And chances are good that there'll be fans to watch and bankroll it.

    • @kogamustard7717
      @kogamustard7717 Рік тому +21

      Makes me wonder, where to find nsfw tutorials?

    • @cinnassforehead
      @cinnassforehead Рік тому

      @@kogamustard7717 ua-cam.com/video/j1IU5UHdyxE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AnimeNyan

    • @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
      @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Рік тому

      @@kogamustard7717The fuck do you mean?

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 Рік тому

      @@AchievementDeniedlink don’t work

    • @AchievementDenied
      @AchievementDenied Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/play/PLsLOBEzVUn2Ctumk9kc8pbAyDzVdv98mw.html

  • @valoriedarling588
    @valoriedarling588 10 місяців тому +22

    This video is so well made, subject matter aside. Well-researched, well-written, well-formatted. I never checked how much longer was left in the video. Very excellent job, subscribing specifically for this one

  • @oliverlarosa8046
    @oliverlarosa8046 11 місяців тому +303

    It is truly incredible how fast these artists can be
    I have seen rule 34 come out for characters officially revealed mere *minutes* before

    • @Hoothouse
      @Hoothouse 11 місяців тому +43

      They just gotta make sure the prophecy is fulfilled.

    • @Boulderpuncher98
      @Boulderpuncher98 11 місяців тому +64

      It wouldn't suprise me if people working on a game makes porn of a character before the game comes out, then releases it when the game is revealed.

  • @En_Joshi-Godrez
    @En_Joshi-Godrez Рік тому +1090

    R34 has always been at the forefront of artistic innovation. I remember back in the very early flash days on newgrounds, they always looked over smoothed, like they were running at 64fps. That kind of animation looks really out of place in almost all situations but in the use of s3xual acts. The fluidity, rhythm and smoothness of character actions in those types of animations worked flawlessly. When artists like minus8 and zone started using them for their r34 animations, no one had seen anything quite like it, and it became viral as a result. S3xual art in general is a great way to use artistic techniques that are otherwise underdeveloped in other mediums.

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE Рік тому +107

      And those skills can pay dividends with safe for work art. If you can animate sex, it's safe to say you can animate fights. Like, look at Balek for instance, who got gigs working with animation companies even while doing pron on the side

    • @En_Joshi-Godrez
      @En_Joshi-Godrez Рік тому +86

      @0uttaS1TE that's true. There is a lot of overlap with weighting, tension, releasing, escalation (literally climaxing) between the two. They just highlight those artistic concepts with different framing. Maybe that's partly why fighting games are so horny.

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE Рік тому +1

      ​​@@En_Joshi-GodrezWhat is fucking, if not naked fighting?

    • @jamjox9922
      @jamjox9922 Рік тому +18

      And going back (given that I'm in the first 5 minutes of the video) old Japanese prints had to use tentacles in place of "D!ks" because lewd laws forbade actual "pronz". A law that still exists in Japan today and hence why blurring happens. That law has yet to be repealed. I'm guessing Lex goes into this detail in the vid but I couldn't wait to comment.

    • @virtueofabsolution7641
      @virtueofabsolution7641 Рік тому +2

      Dawg he literally just explained that adult art is a byproduct of digital innovation *not* the other way around _explained in detail by the artists themselves_
      Now maybe you are trying to say that adult art and a desire to create more and more niche and esoteric porn popularized and made professional techniques more ubiquitous? Sure. Yeah.
      But anything you’ve seen a porn artist do I 100% guarantee they got from a non-porn professional.
      Otherwise they would just be doing that to make money professionally.

  • @ratheonhudson3311
    @ratheonhudson3311 11 місяців тому +151

    I really love documentaries when it brings irony, history, and jokes together. Also, as a man of culture, I thank you for explaining the history of Doujin and how the internet brought culture to the masses.

  • @LordCrate-du8zm
    @LordCrate-du8zm 9 місяців тому +14

    I'm cursed to have all this interesting knowledge but no way to share it without looking like a weirdo.

  • @KimFromTheCrypt
    @KimFromTheCrypt Рік тому +248

    i really love how u respect the art and artists behind adult animation. as u said, very hard working and very creative people.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Рік тому +11

      Ehh

    • @icyskelly204
      @icyskelly204 Рік тому +8

      I agree

    • @ZootOfficial
      @ZootOfficial Рік тому +5

      hard working and creative people, wasting their time on an industry which hurts people. God have mercy on them.

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE Рік тому +11

      @ZootOfficial What do you mean by that? They ain't out here making weapons systems for Raytheon or something.

    • @a_lethe_ion
      @a_lethe_ion Рік тому

      @@ZootOfficial erotica exist since people draw and write. as does weird religious moralism. there is no proof of harm while religious moralism has an objective mountain of bodies left, from dying women bc abortion isnt available and forcing a child to arry a r.. baby to term has a higher risk of killing her to the thousands innovents burnt and tortured for heresy and such.
      masturbation is actually healthy.

  • @KraNisOG
    @KraNisOG Рік тому +864

    Derpexion is such an insane artist, it's wild to me that she makes studio quality animations herself. It's so insane that I can't look at any lewd images or models without immediately thinking about how insanely talented she is, and immediately wanting to improve my own ability to animate. The moment I see it, I immediately get home, up from bed, or whatever I'm doing to open up blender, and get to practicing..... Though I am a 3d animator (No, I don't make pron. I'm not that desperate for money or attention... for now, things could change in the future.)

  • @lilguava70
    @lilguava70 Рік тому +76

    This guy looks EXACTLY like who you would imagine would host a Rule 34 video and I love it.
    Great vid too.

  • @donovanfaust3227
    @donovanfaust3227 9 місяців тому +3

    Great video, YT surprisingly recommended it and I've never seen one of your videos before. I'm glad you've made this piece, and if this video can be preserved, future historians will be glad yo have at least this to go off of. It's amazing how much history might get buried because of the general shame around such content even though as seen here, it is just as much a part of history as everything else. Truly all knowledge should be preserved and I know I'll start doing my part to help preserve all that hot, nasty, freak-*ss knowledge.

  • @SticklysKingdom
    @SticklysKingdom Рік тому +1592

    as an r34 artist myself im very grateful for your very thorough and respectful discussion of it, thank you :)

  • @NathanielJordan85
    @NathanielJordan85 Рік тому +667

    "Why is it always The Pyro?"
    I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess:
    1) the popularity of gimp suits and latex as fetishes
    2) A faceless character is better for projecting onto?
    3) All else failing it's funny

    • @L_H_Bruh
      @L_H_Bruh Рік тому +53

      Tf fans always seem closeted asf, not to mention its a game full of men only... makes sense why Pyro lol

    • @colonel_yuri
      @colonel_yuri Рік тому +1

      "Pyro isn't funny"

    • @aneasteregg8171
      @aneasteregg8171 11 місяців тому +50

      Pyro's the only playable character that might be a woman

    • @grubix7342
      @grubix7342 11 місяців тому +25

      wheres pyrocynical to explain everything were wondering about?

    • @ThBlueSalamander
      @ThBlueSalamander 11 місяців тому +7

      And furry

  • @funebure
    @funebure Рік тому +149

    This was really well put together, the respectful way you talk about the medium is 👌, really enjoyed the R34 timeline, was great!
    and reaching to the OG animators was such a nice cherry on the cake,
    and oh how I was waiting for you to bring up Overwatch and the well deserved NIER/Yokotoaro namedrop

    • @Ashtarte3D
      @Ashtarte3D Рік тому +10

      Yoko Taro truly is a legend for his hilarious behavior and support of the r34 community.

  • @sylph4252
    @sylph4252 10 місяців тому +6

    On a video about r34 the weirdest thing I saw was "give me the nuclear bazooka" clip. The internet truly is a marvel

  • @moleyface
    @moleyface 11 місяців тому +43

    The artists you interviewed brought up such a good point about the tech already being there, and it made me immediately think that perhaps viewers were just conflating individuals' artistic progress to the progress of the medium as a whole. Because of course individual artists are going to get better the more they get familiar with a tool, and Rule 34 in particular addresses a lot of subjects that are REALLY DIFFICULT to animate convincingly in 3D, so it's a bit of a trial by fire. That will lead to a lot of really innovative uses of existing tech that might make it look like the industry as a whole is growing in stride, but really it's just a lot of really talented folks learning and growing together.
    Which is just really interesting to me, honestly.

  • @ThePyroGod
    @ThePyroGod 11 місяців тому +143

    That goddamn tweet has stuck with me for literal years now. It's so cool that such a funny little observation had an impact on someone like you to the point of basing a video around it. Coming from already loving your vids, I can't wait to give this a full watch!

  • @The_D_ray
    @The_D_ray 11 місяців тому +54

    That's actually a very interesting history video, no jokes.
    It's detailed, filled with "trivia" and relatively digestible.
    Good one comrade.
    p.s. At 32:36, the reason why the Pyro (or more specifically FEM Pyro) is so popular, is because in the game the gender of the character is not specified, since you can't see it's face either. Actually, they don't even confirm it's a normal human either.
    This gives a wide variety of contexts in which you could put it, basically making jt an "everything goes" as long as it's anthropomorphic.

  • @emptytrashben2375
    @emptytrashben2375 10 місяців тому +4

    Mom found the homework folder, so he makes this video just to prove that it was “research.”

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater Рік тому +79

    Nier Automata was the first Yoko Taro game to really hit mainstream and it is pretty much because of 2B assets.

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 11 місяців тому +7

      And it's deserved, not only because 2B's ass (where is A2 in this, come on), it's story and philosophical themes leave you thinking about it way after playing it, Drakengard also does this, but like, for the opposite

    • @gunnarschlichting9886
      @gunnarschlichting9886 11 місяців тому +5

      As we say, come for the 2booty, stay for the existential questions on what it means to be human.

    • @A_Simple_Neurose
      @A_Simple_Neurose 11 місяців тому

      Uh. No.
      Nier Automata was a fucking fun game with great music, visuals and combat. That's the reason BEHIND the popularity of 2B porn. There's plenty of crappy games out there with cool character designs that nobody will ever make porn of because they're just shit games that nobody wants to play. Your post makes zero sense and is extremely condescending to the work of hundreds of people who worked on one of the best games of that generation.

  • @BasedMamaJames617
    @BasedMamaJames617 Рік тому +61

    Yoko Taro truly is the🐐, didn't know he followed up on his favor.

  • @delksbwg3777
    @delksbwg3777 Рік тому +29

    Also, a small mention to minus8, the flash artist who made the original ankha dance video that Zone made a tribute to, who also made one of the most popular templates for those types of games, an animated character you could choose their position, amount of clothing and speed and also created the genderbent versions of mario enemies, like the shygal

  • @JB-ij6sp
    @JB-ij6sp 11 місяців тому +9

    You did a ton of research bro. you earned this like and sub. Keep it up :)

  • @ParchmentKH77ftw
    @ParchmentKH77ftw Рік тому +48

    I really appreciate the amount of work you did to produce this research. You're awesome

  • @blainke2149
    @blainke2149 Рік тому +32

    Please never stop doing these deep dives into topics like this, someone has to do it

  • @WhoisThatGuy-
    @WhoisThatGuy- Рік тому +35

    Finally someone actually answering the questions with more then a trolling "Trust me bro"

  • @nightmaresshadow99
    @nightmaresshadow99 10 місяців тому +4

    I'm amazed at this well documented, researched, and edited video you made with just one hand.

  • @loficampingguy9664
    @loficampingguy9664 Рік тому +19

    This right here is excellent work. It's the kind of thing that I got recommended and thought "oh that's funny lol" but then sat down and watched something more informative and entertaining than I thought possible. Seriously, you deliver what you've got to say very well and you get your emotions, ideas, and information across in a way that's making me think and laugh my ass off in the same second.
    Keep doing this; thank you for sharing your work and highlighting the works of others.

  • @PinBiohazard
    @PinBiohazard Рік тому +163

    Finally someone who thinks like me, you have no idea how much archiving over the years ive done on Rule 34 sites to make sure people's art is archived, the sad fact is a lot of good art is being buried under AI art which is really really disappointing
    The reason I started doing it was because of places like Tumblr nuking art, hundreds of thousands of artworks where lost and then also when a good friend of mine died i realised a lot of their artworks where not available anymore online so I've been archiving them as well

    • @Squallshade
      @Squallshade Рік тому +28

      Thank you for your service.

    • @_Hero_Link_
      @_Hero_Link_ Рік тому +14

      ouch, sorry for your loss

    • @FoxySpartan117
      @FoxySpartan117 Рік тому +32

      Someone's gotta do the same with music. Just incase main servers go down from who knows what. That's why I like dvd, VHS, cassettes. The whole shabang. Kinda cool someone's doing it with the sexy stuff. You go man, hope your friend had fun and enjoyed as much as he could.

    • @PinBiohazard
      @PinBiohazard Рік тому

      @@_Hero_Link_ thanks, it's been a few years now but I still miss them

    • @PinBiohazard
      @PinBiohazard Рік тому +13

      @@FoxySpartan117 I completely agree, physical media is always important as well as having a real place to put older content, if companies weren't so anti-consumer we would have had something like that already

  • @oscar7249
    @oscar7249 Рік тому +23

    I'm so happy I understood the “part one, early cinema” bit. I see you also like it when men carry things mr. Lex

  • @ArchonKain
    @ArchonKain 6 місяців тому +66

    As a NSFW artist, genuinely, thank you for making this video, so much of this shit is buried and as someone who worked as a "Post master" for quite a few artists. (That being that I schedule posts and did analytics for artists wanting to increase their following. Which I don't do anymore cause I want to peruse my own work.) A lot of this history is lost in a sense because as you said, the platforms and spaces are growing smaller every year, X (Formally twitter), has been the only good high end staying ground for NSFW artist to get a foot hold and start off without being caved in by others in their field.
    It's rough out there and the motivations to want to make art are so vast and genuinely interesting that writing something down should be some of our priorities, I know I've turned into a bit of an archiver in recent years as I want to try and preserve some history for those who are interested enough to want to know about how some of these things came to be.

  • @bigschlem7264
    @bigschlem7264 Рік тому +44

    I can only imagine the amount of research it took to pull something like this together. Thank you for this gift. :)

  • @DavyDevil666
    @DavyDevil666 Рік тому +22

    Amazing video! Really appreciate the effort gone into this. As someone who's been around the internet and tentatively interested in such things for a long time I was surprised at just how much stuff I didn't know from this! Real eye opening stuff. Also love the idea that we should celebrate the hard work these artists put in!

  • @williamstevenich
    @williamstevenich Рік тому +34

    There was a rumour that one of the remastered pokemon games (i think ogmega saphia) was blamed for having too little r34 for it underperforming. Indeed pokecorn used to be quite underground and was more of a novalty than aything else. Now lucario has the most r34 of any nintendo character to ever exist, and depending on the metrics you use, the most of any character peroid. Wild stuff.

  • @StopMotion-Dann
    @StopMotion-Dann 9 місяців тому +2

    i saw the thumbnail and immediatly went no way its history dates back to the 1700's

  • @Popotato7777
    @Popotato7777 11 місяців тому +24

    Great stuff, easily one of the best vids of the year so far and your best one to date.

    • @Popotato7777
      @Popotato7777 11 місяців тому +1

      And heck that growth in culture and consistency is getting undeniable. I did not expect you to mention the MTN DEW sandwich Dx

  • @mrblue251
    @mrblue251 Рік тому +19

    I genuinely respect the effort you put into this. Great job!
    You've validated my habit of saving all the good, tasteful stuff I come across. Often, I've gone back to find some works of art just to find that they aren't there anymore.

  • @TKVdaboi
    @TKVdaboi 10 місяців тому +3

    Bro I'm falling in love w your vids, the time passes so quickly.
    Plus this subject has interested me too, so appreciate the research haha!
    Subbed, liked, and saved to watch later- whenever I'm bored

  • @jackcurleo3148
    @jackcurleo3148 Рік тому +14

    Great video, always love to see Newgrounds pop up in internet history moments. I do want to add some context/add a correction: I’m an art moderator on NG, and the SFM/Scene creator rule you cited is only for the Art Portal section of the site. The animation section has plenty of SFM loops of ripped/lightly modified in-game assets. It’s a bit of a point of contention for the community - especially when misrated adult content gets a Daily Award. I just checked and if you sort by “newest” in animation with A content enabled there’s an Atomic Heart SFM corn loop
    This being said I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these submissions accounts ended up deleted or abandoned anyway when site made it so A rated content can only be viewed with an account.

  • @the.SteamingVegan
    @the.SteamingVegan Рік тому +40

    This was an incredible video. I can't thank you enough for showing such true appreciation to gamers, artists, and just to people who masturbate... which is LITERALLY ALMOST EVERYONE. To not be able to have any real appreciation and respect for something we almost all do and indulge in, that so many people put so much work into, really needs to be addressed and you did a great job of treating it with nuance

  • @KuWota2k
    @KuWota2k Рік тому +20

    Congrats, not only has the video not been taken down yet, but the algorithm is definitely pushing it haha.
    Great vid!

  • @ForumArcade
    @ForumArcade 11 місяців тому +61

    Now this is the kind of content I want to see more people seriously exploring. Sexuality is an enormous part of human culture and significant in the lives of just about everyone, yet it's considered inappropriate to actually acknowledge or talk about it out of fear of making people uncomfortable? It doesn't make any sense. We should talk about this stuff more.
    Thank you for this production.

    • @EmotionalParaquat714神离天
      @EmotionalParaquat714神离天 10 місяців тому

      I think you want to take somebodys innocents away, right?

    • @Kineticboy2K1
      @Kineticboy2K1 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@EmotionalParaquat714神离天 What a fuckin wild sentence. "I bet you want a virgin sub to dominate, don't you? DON'T YOU!? No one appreciates sexual content without being a sadistic weirdo because sex is immoral!!! I'M BETTER THAN YOU!!!" lol get over yourself.

    • @frtzkng
      @frtzkng 8 місяців тому +1

      Thank around a millennium of moral guardians for that

  • @magni319
    @magni319 Рік тому +32

    Your research on this topic kind of proves a thing I've been worried about for a long time... death of the Internet. It takes money to maintain servers, copyright strikes exist, people who own content simply die and there may be no one to keep their legacy. If content doesn't generate money, it'll disappear. And the more content gets created, the more content will disappear.

    • @WanderTheNomad
      @WanderTheNomad Рік тому +9

      There are two paths we can take, and I think we should take both.
      One is make more of an effort to preserve the content posted on the internet, at least the most influential ones.
      The other is to accept the fact that a lot of things just disappear to time and we can't get them back. The biggest example being all those extinct animals that were never fossilized or preserved.

    • @KrepsyK
      @KrepsyK 11 місяців тому +6

      Dead Internet theory is more real than people think

  • @bemasaberwyn55
    @bemasaberwyn55 11 місяців тому +31

    Man you talking about Newgrounds and machinama REALLY takes me back

  • @kingj282
    @kingj282 11 місяців тому +21

    54:43 It's not just adult content. In this day and age, people assume that all of history will be written down, archived properly, and easily accessible. But most history is lost to time: especially so for this topic.

  • @Term1nator_
    @Term1nator_ 5 місяців тому +18

    Derpixon’s animations are great. Her animations and choices of VAs are always top notch. Yes, Derpixon is a girl.

  • @marcus_cole_2
    @marcus_cole_2 11 місяців тому +135

    I'm genuinely surprised you didn't touch on MMD in your Rule 34 history; I'd love a video exploring its history and more. Not just that, but AI-generated artwork, while potentially untouched by human hands, has gained immense popularity. It's practically ubiquitous on major social networks such as Twitter and Facebook.

    • @NoraNoita
      @NoraNoita 11 місяців тому +21

      ah the MMD scene, with out favorite Vocaloid songs, being blessed with interesting dances.

    • @A_Simple_Neurose
      @A_Simple_Neurose 11 місяців тому

      Most AI generated porn is made using garbage, cobbled together unlicensed training data for their models. It only takes a few anime pics until you find one that mysteriously has mosaic-like artifacts in the nether regions to suggest that they could be using swathes of unlicensed doujinshi as their training data. You wouldn't be getting those artifacts otherwise, as you would 100% receive un-censored images if the works were actually licensed, so it's quite obvious that they just dunked the entirety of that e-hentai backup that was made a few years ago into ther model and let it run wild with it.
      AI continues to be a mistake with all the bad faith garbage retards behind it do. Unfortunately the way AI works (information source laundering) it's quite hard to prove this since the websites that let you generate that shit almost pride themselves in not letting you see the sources that inspired the generated image, either on the UI or in the metadata.

    • @ruyman90
      @ruyman90 11 місяців тому +20

      That's more on the Eastern side of Rule34. For example he didn't mention a lot of free gacha games that became so relevant that is imposible to not have seen them. Probably beginning with Tohou all the way to Genshin impact. Big things like Visual novels, cosplay, idols, RPGs, etc... history of tentacle porn itself is interesting. Is like the west and the east evolved two different histories and are now slowly converging in a single perverted entity. Ai just gave everyone a big jump.

    • @pikav.2.085
      @pikav.2.085 10 місяців тому +2

      Dude mmd goes hard

    • @marcus_cole_2
      @marcus_cole_2 10 місяців тому +6

      @@ruyman90 Rarely have you seen the market Hatsune Miku is all over the place from Western markets to Eastern markets to Mexico I've even seen her in Russia same with some of the other well-known characters is not just an eastern thing if anything were just getting into it now it's going to be exploding big time especially with AI

  • @ChronoShadow69
    @ChronoShadow69 11 місяців тому +20

    Seriously, thank you for making this video. I've spent so many years being both a degenerate and someone who appreciates the hell out of the quality and work that goes into the stuff made in these spaces, and the history of it that you went over (some of which I was familiar with, some of which was all new to me!) is important. It matters. So thank you for covering this knowing potential issues that might come from doing so!

    • @ForumArcade
      @ForumArcade 11 місяців тому +2

      Three cheers for porn!

  • @CloudPhase
    @CloudPhase Рік тому +8

    Adult content is criminally under respected.
    For a lot of people when you bring up r34 they're just like 'heh funny cartoon' and completely disregard the amount of work that goes into this art form.
    TL;DR: based

  • @kagekun1198
    @kagekun1198 10 місяців тому +3

    You are one hell of a historian on topics I didn't know I wanted to know.

  • @kogure7235
    @kogure7235 11 місяців тому +15

    Incredible work, as someone who has been around the content for the last ~15 years, it's such a trip down memory lane. I was there on Tumblr, when SFM released, when all these amazing artists you talked about started to get popular, rise in popularity of all these game franchises... I'm starting to wonder if any of my old hard drives have any lost R34 animations on them...

  • @tophatgeo
    @tophatgeo Рік тому +24

    First video of yours I've seen! I really enjoyed this video even if the topic might not be one to everyone's tastes. R34 is a massive part of internet subculture, so getting to learn the history of it is fascinating. You clearly did a ton of research into this and seeing some creators managing to coexist with this content and help develop people's artistic skills is sweet.

  • @Pyan3z
    @Pyan3z 11 місяців тому +72

    Yea just a little insight on the "Italian Senate incident": The info of the zoom call was posted, publicly, on twitter. The person who made that post, containing the password to join said call was, get ready:
    Included in the "Pioneers for Internet for reseach in Italy",
    Recieved a MASTER in IT Security in 2003,
    was Chief of IT Security for the Universities of Modena and Reggio Emilia (untill 2009)
    worked (on something) in The Italian Federation of Universities and Research Institutions for Authentication and Authorization (untill 2018)
    How someone with this "timeline" managed to (ALLEGEDLY) post publicly on twitter the access info to a SENATE Zoom Call should be indelebly etched in history

    • @LeonelLAURE
      @LeonelLAURE 11 місяців тому +5

      Yet the Rule34 and internet community swept that shite under the rug for no one to find out🤫

    • @Lucien86
      @Lucien86 11 місяців тому +2

      One thing there's no Rule 34 about - Doxxers. Unless its snuff porn. or vore..

  • @Athior
    @Athior 10 місяців тому +5

    49:50 “And an adult fan community so throbbing.” I’ll see myself out.

    • @univon4892
      @univon4892 9 місяців тому +1

      He said thriving, rewatch it again

    • @Athior
      @Athior 9 місяців тому +1

      @@univon4892 >-The Joke->
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  • @the_well-known_stranger2275
    @the_well-known_stranger2275 11 місяців тому +8

    There was an animator called SableServiette who made Zelda BoTW animations that were such high quality that people were sharing snippets of them claiming they were actual in game cutscenes. They were insanely talented, but then Nintendo came along and struck them so hard with a cease a desist they haven’t made anything since.