Glad you are testing this - hope this educates folks who use a 350kw charger on a sub 150kw limited car .. Also PSA: Can't stress enough you can call EA and they CAN SOMETIMES reboot the stations that are down - worth a shot unless there are hardware issues onsite.
Keep in mind, some "150 kW" cars can max out the current of 350 kW chargers, and they will likely be more negatively affected by using a 150 kW charger than many 800 V cars (e.g., an E-GMP car only saves a couple minutes by using a 350 kW charger). Luckily, this is going to be a non-issue moving forward as most high-power chargers are moving to a shared power model, where 350-400 kW is distributed between two stalls. So no one should care if a Bolt, Kona, or Niro are using a 350 kW charger. in fact, if you're in a car that can take more than half a 350 kW charger's power, you'd rather be paired up with a sub 100 kW EV than sharing power with a car pulling 500 A or 800 V.
That's not bad time I would go for a walk grab a coffee then get back on the road im getting old and really cant sit that long in a car before my body starts to hurt. This blazer ev isn't that bad 👍👍
I just was charging at 250MPH with no slowdown at all! At an EVgo station, no hassle at all! Love this car, no precondition or anything, forgot about precondition!
@@dGooddBaddUgly like I tell everyone, it takes about 10 seconds as I am retired and go out many times/day! I don’t just go to work and back! Each time I plug in to the 120v outlet in my garage it takes a couple of seconds! Next day it is 80%! If I drive a long distance it might be the second day and I may get down to 150 or so miles left! The only experts on EV’s are those who never owned one! I will never buy a gas car again!
I charged for my first time today, 2024 Blazer RS EV delivered last week. I'm on a learning curve so playing with this at the moment. I used a super charger when i was at 25%, charged to 80% in 25 minutes. I'm from Toronto Canada so not sure if our chargers are different. I forgot about preconditioning and the temperature was around 13 C or 56 F.
I am actually picking up my Blazer EV at the end of this week in Montreal. How are you finding the blazer so far? I was impressed enough in my inital test drive to buy but id love to hear what a fellow canadian thinks especially with our weather and kinda lackluster network.
@@localchoomso far I love it. No issues at all. I charge at home but I’ve used a super charger a few times. I’m probably getting close to 400 km per charge.
@@localchoom So far I love it. It is amazing to drive and one pedal driving is easy to get use to (except for putting it in the garage), I haven't had any complaints at all actually. I haven't taken a long trip yet but we have lots of super chargers along the 401 and there are several in my area, some are even free. I did install a Level 2 at my house and it works well. I seem to be getting from 20% to 80% in 4 hours.
@@JohnRose-cc4xcjust picked one up for my wife! Did you guys get a free install at home? I heard something about the bolt EV and my dealer claims I can get one? I’m currently waiting for an email. Level 1 is stupid slow. In 12 hours we got 12% charge
I think for most people, a road trip once in awhile in the Blazer EV isn't that bad. Not great, just average. I agree, this car around town and just local trips is awesome.
That’s fine IF there is another charging site within that +- 100 mile stretch. That is not always the case with EA, especially if you’re driving on US or State highways, since all EA sites are located on Interstates
This is surprising with ElectrifyAmerica and what they're dishing out with power because I had a Mustang MachE before and I was getting more than 35 kW. I was getting more juice charging at home and didn't have to get ripped off at $0.53/min.
Concerned the charging stations may taper on purpose so more time $ is charged ...all software driven...are consumer protection dept looking into this? I will personally do more research and document my findings...
Thanks for the info, I did test drive on the RS AWD trim and it was a quite and stable ride. I’m also worried about the charging curve though. When you have a chance can you test the charging curve on a KIA EV9 GT line when the car is available? It’s built on an 800V electric architecture.
If I ever get the chance I can try. I am not sure when that vehicle will be in press fleets but likely next year. It should be very similar to the current E-GMP vehicles but slightly slower due to the larger battery.
70% of the battery at 85kwh useable means about 120-150 miles most likely at 2.5 miles kwh. with 40 minutes stops I don't know. They need to fix that dip at 60%.
@@CarsMadeSimple I'm thinking with regards to Midwest average. Wait till it's in the 20-40s all the time. I'm in Chicago with a 2019 Model 3 performance. I think 2.5 might be lucky in winter.
The EV6 should still pull 173 from the 150 units so no worries there. Also why use the 350 unit with the Blazer EV if it can't do anything over 150kw? Thank you for doing these very educational charging tests.
The 800V vehicles can charge quicker at a lower current. Depending on the output of the dispensers and the lower voltage of the Blazer EV. You might not be able to get the full 150kW speeds on a 150kW dispenser.
Such a nice dash for an EV. Reminds me of the 60 Impala dash or a newer Mercedes with all the chrome trim. Electrify America seems to be a bust with pretty poor service. it is great that most cars can now charge on Tesla chargers.
It is a very attractive dash for the most part. Certain Tesla Superchargers have MagicDock installed but they haven't opened up the regular network to adapter quite yet.
Using the 350 with a vehicle that maxes at 150 is bad form, dude, unless the 150 wasn’t available when you plugged in. The 150 units are actually capable of up to 170-175.
I need to check the current output on the 150's. I've seen differing answers online. As I mentioned in my other video, if they are limited to 350A (without any sort of boost function) then one wouldn't be able to achieve max speed on the Blazer EV on a 150kW's unit. I've only seen roughly 335-340V while charging this vehicle on other DCFC's which means it would pull roughly 120kW's if the 150 dispensers are limited to 350A output. If they are rated at 500A, then yes one should be able to get full speed on the Blazer EV.
@@CarsMadeSimple Fair point! It depends on the box behind the stalls (figuratively), for sure. I just felt for the other driver in the EV6, which is more capable of taking advantage of the 350. Totally understand why you used the 350, but felt it worth mentioning the etiquette.
How do I find a level 3 that will allow me to use my Blazers J1772 socket? I have the adapter that will allow me to use the Tesla Destination chargers but looking for other options
Level 3 does not use J1772. CCS and eventually NACS (Tesla) will be your options for DC Fast Charging. J1772 is level 2 charging on 220/240V up to around 11.5kW's on Blazer EV currently. CCS uses the two pins at the bottom for level 3 charging even though it shares part of the port which contains J1772.
Could the the Samsung? Made LFP base battery pack do better? Is this because of the debacle that is LG Energy that supplies the batteries for their EVs? Someone should fire Mary Barra! We’ve had enough and I can say that as I have some stock in GM.
This is gonna suck if the auto industry does not speed up the charging. Electric charge 40 mins for full, gas fillup less than 7 for full. But the real question is, why pay for a charge? I don't see paying for a charge as in equivalent to my phone where I can plug in anywhere and not be charged. In time wasting, I think I will never love gas more at this point.
Thanks for the test! These are the same numbers we should expect to see with the Equinox EV as well. I will say that after having tested the E-GMP cars on a long trip, they actually charge faster than is convenient for most stops. In this case, it looks like GM is largely following the same path with Ultium as they did with the Bolt EV by balancing cost, energy density, and charging speeds. The dip at ~60% is something that I would expect to get corrected and smoothed out at some point (just like they did with the original Bolt EV), and it would likely bring the average charging speed to 80% to well over 100 kW (you averaged 96 kW from 17% to 81% in this test). I think the target for these battery cells should be 10% to 80% in ~35 minutes. Ultimately, any charging strategy should be adjusted based on your expectations for the trip, the capabilities of the car, and the available charging stations. Personally, I think the ~2 C rate of Ultium is fine for most travelers, especially in a 300-mile EV, but some will demand the 3 C speeds of E-GMP cars. For me, having the ability to drive for 3 to 4 hours at freeway speeds, stop for 30 to 40 minutes (meal break) and drive another 2 to 3 hours at freeway speeds is good enough. That's well over 400 miles and nearly 7 hours of driving with only one 30 to 40 minute break. Realistically, I'd probably still make another one or two 5 to 10 minute bathroom breaks on that drive, meaning it would be pretty easy to cover 500 to 600 miles with less than an hour off the road. That's reasonable.
I agree with you, this is a very reasonable road trip car. Your videos on the Chevy Bolt helped guide my decision to buy one for years ago, it's been a great commuter car for me, but I'm considering moving up to the Blazer as I near retirement. I think the Blazer would be a better all-around day-to-day car that could do the occasional road trip, which I feel the Bolt was never really meant to do anyway.
40 minutes? So much for GM's heralded Ultium platform vehicles. 40 minutes? Hyundai and Kia's are doing the same thing in 18 minutes. Tesla's doing it in 25 minutes. No GM. Just no.
To be fair, 10-80% in the 77.4kWh E-GMP cars is roughly 53-54 kWh's vs the Blazer EV's 10-80% 59 kWh or so but it is still much slower at charging regardless.
My Blazer charges faster that the one in this example, although I noticed better performance at EVgo chargers. Unfortunately, Electrify America chargers are far more common.
My Blazer charges faster than yours did but I also avoid Electrify America. Circle K, Shell Recharge and EvGo are the only public chargers I’ve ever used. I learned with my Bolt EUV to avoid Electrify America.
I went to a fast charger once and saw a blazer Ev already plugged in. Didn't see his Soc. I plugged in my EV6 at 13%. After 14 mins, I hit 70% and unplugged. Checked the blazers soc just out of curiosity and it was only at 38%. That's really bad.
The Blazer EVs have routing specifically for charging locations (and their availability). This video is for idiotic drivers that just get in and drive with zero clue.
Glad you are testing this - hope this educates folks who use a 350kw charger on a sub 150kw limited car ..
Also PSA: Can't stress enough you can call EA and they CAN SOMETIMES reboot the stations that are down - worth a shot unless there are hardware issues onsite.
Keep in mind, some "150 kW" cars can max out the current of 350 kW chargers, and they will likely be more negatively affected by using a 150 kW charger than many 800 V cars (e.g., an E-GMP car only saves a couple minutes by using a 350 kW charger). Luckily, this is going to be a non-issue moving forward as most high-power chargers are moving to a shared power model, where 350-400 kW is distributed between two stalls. So no one should care if a Bolt, Kona, or Niro are using a 350 kW charger. in fact, if you're in a car that can take more than half a 350 kW charger's power, you'd rather be paired up with a sub 100 kW EV than sharing power with a car pulling 500 A or 800 V.
That's not bad time I would go for a walk grab a coffee then get back on the road im getting old and really cant sit that long in a car before my body starts to hurt. This blazer ev isn't that bad 👍👍
I just was charging at 250MPH with no slowdown at all! At an EVgo station, no hassle at all! Love this car, no precondition or anything, forgot about precondition!
Do you have a feel for the charging curve on average?
@@skyemalcolm I only DC fast charged once and just to 80% from 40% and saw no change!
How long did it take to charge at 80%?
@@dGooddBaddUgly like I tell everyone, it takes about 10 seconds as I am retired and go out many times/day! I don’t just go to work and back! Each time I plug in to the 120v outlet in my garage it takes a couple of seconds! Next day it is 80%! If I drive a long distance it might be the second day and I may get down to 150 or so miles left! The only experts on EV’s are those who never owned one! I will never buy a gas car again!
@@ronalaska2472 He meant how long did the fast charge from 40-80% take
I charged for my first time today, 2024 Blazer RS EV delivered last week. I'm on a learning curve so playing with this at the moment. I used a super charger when i was at 25%, charged to 80% in 25 minutes. I'm from Toronto Canada so not sure if our chargers are different. I forgot about preconditioning and the temperature was around 13 C or 56 F.
I am actually picking up my Blazer EV at the end of this week in Montreal. How are you finding the blazer so far? I was impressed enough in my inital test drive to buy but id love to hear what a fellow canadian thinks especially with our weather and kinda lackluster network.
@@localchoomso far I love it. No issues at all. I charge at home but I’ve used a super charger a few times. I’m probably getting close to 400 km per charge.
@@localchoom So far I love it. It is amazing to drive and one pedal driving is easy to get use to (except for putting it in the garage), I haven't had any complaints at all actually. I haven't taken a long trip yet but we have lots of super chargers along the 401 and there are several in my area, some are even free. I did install a Level 2 at my house and it works well. I seem to be getting from 20% to 80% in 4 hours.
@@JohnRose-cc4xcjust picked one up for my wife! Did you guys get a free install at home? I heard something about the bolt EV and my dealer claims I can get one? I’m currently waiting for an email. Level 1 is stupid slow. In 12 hours we got 12% charge
This is a good ad for an EGMP vehicle
I think for most people, a road trip once in awhile in the Blazer EV isn't that bad. Not great, just average. I agree, this car around town and just local trips is awesome.
Very true. The RWD would be better with range and charging also.
2 out of 4 units unavailable, that is perfectly normal for an EA site
Unfortunately!
2 and half hours behind the wheel is more than long enough to be on the road i would want that down time to charge the car and me
Everyone is different but I would prefer more range and/or quicker charging speeds.
That’s fine IF there is another charging site within that +- 100 mile stretch. That is not always the case with EA, especially if you’re driving on US or State highways, since all EA sites are located on Interstates
That Walmart sign is calling you out on your f*ck up 🤣🤣🤣
Just charged my wife’s today. 45 mins. I wasn’t able to see how fast it was (kWh). But total energy delivered was 28kWh
This is surprising with ElectrifyAmerica and what they're dishing out with power because I had a Mustang MachE before and I was getting more than 35 kW. I was getting more juice charging at home and didn't have to get ripped off at $0.53/min.
Concerned the charging stations may taper on purpose so more time $ is charged ...all software driven...are consumer protection dept looking into this? I will personally do more research and document my findings...
Got 350 miles on a charge out of MYBEVRSRWD😊
I took mine out of transformation mode from the instrument cluster, I did mine
Thanks for the info, I did test drive on the RS AWD trim and it was a quite and stable ride. I’m also worried about the charging curve though. When you have a chance can you test the charging curve on a KIA EV9 GT line when the car is available? It’s built on an 800V electric architecture.
If I ever get the chance I can try. I am not sure when that vehicle will be in press fleets but likely next year. It should be very similar to the current E-GMP vehicles but slightly slower due to the larger battery.
Thanks for the info!
You bet!
Friend; How much autonomy does it have with 60% charge?🎉
70% of the battery at 85kwh useable means about 120-150 miles most likely at 2.5 miles kwh. with 40 minutes stops I don't know. They need to fix that dip at 60%.
It is likely in the ballpark of 150 miles
@@CarsMadeSimple I'm thinking with regards to Midwest average. Wait till it's in the 20-40s all the time. I'm in Chicago with a 2019 Model 3 performance. I think 2.5 might be lucky in winter.
Can you do a video on lane keep assist on backroads?
I’d like to see what’s the charging curve on the Blazer EV using the Tesla supercharger.
It would be very interesting! Hopefully that is something I can test in the future but we don't have a large infrastructure around here.
The EV6 should still pull 173 from the 150 units so no worries there. Also why use the 350 unit with the Blazer EV if it can't do anything over 150kw? Thank you for doing these very educational charging tests.
The 800V vehicles can charge quicker at a lower current. Depending on the output of the dispensers and the lower voltage of the Blazer EV. You might not be able to get the full 150kW speeds on a 150kW dispenser.
Such a nice dash for an EV. Reminds me of the 60 Impala dash or a newer Mercedes with all the chrome trim.
Electrify America seems to be a bust with pretty poor service. it is great that most cars can now charge on Tesla chargers.
It is a very attractive dash for the most part. Certain Tesla Superchargers have MagicDock installed but they haven't opened up the regular network to adapter quite yet.
Depends where you live.. I have a bolt EUV and use it on 4 long trip and never had an issue using it.
Using the 350 with a vehicle that maxes at 150 is bad form, dude, unless the 150 wasn’t available when you plugged in. The 150 units are actually capable of up to 170-175.
Great video, though. Thanks for sharing!
I need to check the current output on the 150's. I've seen differing answers online. As I mentioned in my other video, if they are limited to 350A (without any sort of boost function) then one wouldn't be able to achieve max speed on the Blazer EV on a 150kW's unit. I've only seen roughly 335-340V while charging this vehicle on other DCFC's which means it would pull roughly 120kW's if the 150 dispensers are limited to 350A output. If they are rated at 500A, then yes one should be able to get full speed on the Blazer EV.
@@CarsMadeSimple Fair point! It depends on the box behind the stalls (figuratively), for sure. I just felt for the other driver in the EV6, which is more capable of taking advantage of the 350. Totally understand why you used the 350, but felt it worth mentioning the etiquette.
How do I find a level 3 that will allow me to use my Blazers J1772 socket? I have the adapter that will allow me to use the Tesla Destination chargers but looking for other options
Level 3 does not use J1772. CCS and eventually NACS (Tesla) will be your options for DC Fast Charging. J1772 is level 2 charging on 220/240V up to around 11.5kW's on Blazer EV currently. CCS uses the two pins at the bottom for level 3 charging even though it shares part of the port which contains J1772.
Could the the Samsung? Made LFP base battery pack do better? Is this because of the debacle that is LG Energy that supplies the batteries for their EVs? Someone should fire Mary Barra! We’ve had enough and I can say that as I have some stock in GM.
GM isn't using CATL like Tesla does.
This is gonna suck if the auto industry does not speed up the charging. Electric charge 40 mins for full, gas fillup less than 7 for full. But the real question is, why pay for a charge? I don't see paying for a charge as in equivalent to my phone where I can plug in anywhere and not be charged. In time wasting, I think I will never love gas more at this point.
Electrify America needs to either fix their act or get out of the game and let another company take over.
I'm south Chicago
Unplug and plug in again
The Blazer needs a software update.
Charging network still sucks until superchargers open up....hurry the fuxx up
Thanks for the test! These are the same numbers we should expect to see with the Equinox EV as well.
I will say that after having tested the E-GMP cars on a long trip, they actually charge faster than is convenient for most stops. In this case, it looks like GM is largely following the same path with Ultium as they did with the Bolt EV by balancing cost, energy density, and charging speeds. The dip at ~60% is something that I would expect to get corrected and smoothed out at some point (just like they did with the original Bolt EV), and it would likely bring the average charging speed to 80% to well over 100 kW (you averaged 96 kW from 17% to 81% in this test). I think the target for these battery cells should be 10% to 80% in ~35 minutes.
Ultimately, any charging strategy should be adjusted based on your expectations for the trip, the capabilities of the car, and the available charging stations. Personally, I think the ~2 C rate of Ultium is fine for most travelers, especially in a 300-mile EV, but some will demand the 3 C speeds of E-GMP cars. For me, having the ability to drive for 3 to 4 hours at freeway speeds, stop for 30 to 40 minutes (meal break) and drive another 2 to 3 hours at freeway speeds is good enough. That's well over 400 miles and nearly 7 hours of driving with only one 30 to 40 minute break. Realistically, I'd probably still make another one or two 5 to 10 minute bathroom breaks on that drive, meaning it would be pretty easy to cover 500 to 600 miles with less than an hour off the road. That's reasonable.
I agree with you, this is a very reasonable road trip car. Your videos on the Chevy Bolt helped guide my decision to buy one for years ago, it's been a great commuter car for me, but I'm considering moving up to the Blazer as I near retirement. I think the Blazer would be a better all-around day-to-day car that could do the occasional road trip, which I feel the Bolt was never really meant to do anyway.
Lol... walmart Pickup sign
40 minutes? So much for GM's heralded Ultium platform vehicles. 40 minutes? Hyundai and Kia's are doing the same thing in 18 minutes. Tesla's doing it in 25 minutes. No GM. Just no.
To be fair, 10-80% in the 77.4kWh E-GMP cars is roughly 53-54 kWh's vs the Blazer EV's 10-80% 59 kWh or so but it is still much slower at charging regardless.
My Blazer charges faster that the one in this example, although I noticed better performance at EVgo chargers. Unfortunately, Electrify America chargers are far more common.
My Blazer charges faster than yours did but I also avoid Electrify America. Circle K, Shell Recharge and EvGo are the only public chargers I’ve ever used. I learned with my Bolt EUV to avoid Electrify America.
I went to a fast charger once and saw a blazer Ev already plugged in. Didn't see his Soc. I plugged in my EV6 at 13%. After 14 mins, I hit 70% and unplugged. Checked the blazers soc just out of curiosity and it was only at 38%. That's really bad.
@@Yubuzka3774agreed. I get 0-80 percent in about 20 minutes and can show up and leave before the ultium cars get to 50 percent
The Blazer EVs have routing specifically for charging locations (and their availability). This video is for idiotic drivers that just get in and drive with zero clue.