Starting Calligraphy - Position
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2016
- Before even picking up a pen to write with, there are three things you need to familiarise yourself with, Posture, Placement and Position.
The position of the practitioner, the writing tool and the paper are the next things to consider, before starting the practise of calligraphy, or the art of writing.
How the fingers hold the pen, and indeed where they hold the writing instrument along its shaft, coupled with wrist and arm movements allow for an easier expression of the actual writing.
This video looks at the relationship of the fingers, wrist, forearm, elbow and shoulders for smoother movements for larger writing and decorative flourishing.
It also looks at what is happening with the non-writing hand and the role it plays in producing calligraphy. The video is suitable for both right-handers and left-handers.
This is three in a series of three, combine them all to assist you and really enjoying learning calligraphy.
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this is very helpful...thank you very much
and on my first day back to writing calligraphy in 5 months, I decided to watch this series of videos and now I truly feel like I'm learning all over again for the very first time... but I can tell my letterforms will be so much better than before. I was really struggling with my hairlines and now they're gorgeous (I mean they look like a 3 year did them, but they're very prominent) - so thank you for helping me get my groove back!
thank you for these three videos. It became easier to write and better. I was not sitting properly and did not understand how to fix it. Now everything is in place. Many thanks!
The sunlight is giving more pleasure in writing
Thanks brother 😊 I will surely follow ur instructions I am new to this field
Paul you’re my hero and I always refer to your videos for learning or every time I have some questions . Hope I could meet you someday. Thank you Paul 🙏
This was so much more informative than any other video and the last bit about the reservoir facing the 55 degree was something no one ever taught me. This Helps so much. Thank you.
Alexzandra Broyles you are welcome
I'm so looking forward next month. So happy!
Three great videos, Paul. Thanks!
That's the third one watched. So utterly grateful for all this information. Now to try and undo all my bad habits that look like they have been the reason for all my shaky wonky lines ;-) Thank you.
It takes time but NOW you know. You will always question why the line is not doing what it is supposed to and you will get better by adjusting the three Ps
This is Golden. Thank you!
Un immense MERCI pour toutes vos vidéos
J'ai appris beaucoup grâce à vous !
Wonderful series of videos, thank you! I see that I will need to retrain my posture and position. I've already re-positioned my desk thanks to the inspiration of your videos and look forward to many productive hours of copperplate writing. Thanks, Matt from Portland, OR.
Matthew Good to hear. The new positions will need to alter slightly as you get better. You sort of settle in and then need a minor adjustment
These three videos have been a life saver!! I've been practicing modern calligraphy for around 8 months now, but was sill struggling with getting smooth movement for flourishing, not to mention running into same major cramping and fatigue in my hands. Now after using these techniques for only 5 minutes I can already feel the difference. So wish I'd known the importance of these things earlier, but thank you so much for putting it out there!!
Heidee S if you really want to progress follow the links in the descriptions. The videos on Shopify are over 5 hours of new content
My handwriting improved dramatically in the last 30 minutes I was watching your series. Thank you!
That is good to know. Just be patient with the writing
Wow. Thank you so much. This has helped me so much. Thank you.
wow finaly i can found a vid can make my hanh position correct.... thanks you so much for great video Paul....
great video can,t wait to see the next one. thanks for the work n the time !
Super helpful! Thank you.
Excellent video. Thank you.
An amazing vídeo. Thank you very much!!!
Thank you for the three lessons. They were very helpful. Now, all I need do is remember!
Pat G don't try to remember all of it. Learn one thing at a time keep practising
Thanks for uploading i have just started calligraphy and i hope to learn more from your videos .
thank you for the good advice
Your instructions on these 3 basic positions of the body, tool, and writing surface are just what I need to get a good start in this fabulous writing technique.....or should I say techniques (plural)? Thank you very much for your thorough and clear explanations. They will be invaluable to me. I've subscribed to your channel and will definitely be visiting and watching all of your instructional videos for further education in Copperplate and Spencerian writing methods. THANK YOU KINDLY.
William Dungan Jr. thank you. Don't forget to sign up for the notification on the Copperplate Script Manual at my website
You're amazing.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've just started learning - my drills have improved so much since I've watched your posture, position, placement videos. Please consider doing an online class of some kind!
Molly Caff I am glad they have been of use for you. Keep working on your posture and position, remember to think about how you are executing the work, dont just do the drills because you have to do them
Thanks for this wonderful video. I m now understanding why I m having pain in my thumb and first finger. Thanks for 3 video's.
I really enjoyed your 3 part serious on Posture, Placement and Position. I have just started Calligraphy lessons and this was so helpful. I have put into practice what you spoke about and noticed immediately a difference in the strokes they are so much more smoother. It has given me a much more free flowing ability compared to the tightness i was experiencing prior to watching this series. Thank you so much.
Sir u r v good person.
Excellent videos. Thank you for taking the time to produce them. I have done flat nib work for many years, and I am now venturing into the very different world of copperplate. Your videos are so helpful.
Carl Gwyn i am glad you find them useful. Am currently working on a manual on Copperplate Script
awww thank uuuu ^.^ ..really helpfullll!!!!! ^^
Love your lessons! Thank you for them!
I was just looking over this video and saw your comment! I have loved seeing your progress and development
@@PAScribe I owe alot of my success in writing and design to you Mr Paul! You're deep understanding of letterform and your ability to convey it meaningfully has made more capable of not only writing but critiquing myself. Having videos like these Posture Placement and Position really gave me a great foundation years ago in my writing and made an extreme difference over time! So thank you!
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I really appreciate your videos, just watching these videos helped me improve my handwriting so much. Thank you. I request that you please compare the also popular finger-writing school of thought to whole arm movement as compared to Spencerian if you can. Thank you. Love the videos sir.
Aadityakiran S. glad you like the videos. The handwriting comparison is in another video.
Paul, I really want to thank you for creating this material. Your videos are absolutely great. I'm a newbie learning modern calligraphy, however, I'd love to learn more about Copperplate style. By any chance will you give a workshop in the Netherlands in the short future? And my last question, do you have any advice regarding nibs for beginners? I'd like to explore a bit more tools. Currently, I'm using a straight holder, a Brause 361 Steno Blue nib and Jet Black India 010 ink (Calli).
Thank you in advance for your help and success at National Stationery Show ;)
Johana Muñeton C. My book on Copperplate Script comes out in a few weeks time you can order at PASCRIBE.us it has Info on nibs which you might find helpful.
Nice hearing from you Paul. Perfect! I'll keep an eye on your page and get your book once it comes out. Have a great day ;)
You are a great teacher, but it would be more valid if the camera highlighted your marks more. I also went to Reigate with Gerald,Tom and Gaynor. Adrian
Thank you so much. I learnt quite a lot from them about the posture and position i need to keep while doing the calligraphy. I've just started doing it and now i understand why it is so important to keep the posture and position proper. Thank you so much for taking the time to produce these videos. I have got a fountain pen having a variety of nibs with a bit of oblique cuts on the each having a different width but somehow i am just unable to write proper letters using them. Can you help me out a bit to how to write with those nibs. And I would like to ask which ink would you suggest for calligraphy for a fountain pen.
Thank you so much
Thank you very much for taking the time to make these videos! They are perfect supplements as I am currently learning via multiple literatures on the subject. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you again!
Bailey Swanson what suggestions are you asking for?
Sorry for being indirect. Do you have any books you reference on script technique?
En este vídeo donde precisamente hablas de la forma correcta de sostener la plumilla, a veces la imagen grabada no permite ver como la sostienes correctamente porque se esta enfocando lo que escribes y no como lo haces. Pero en todo caso, muchas gracias por tus vídeos y tus enseñanzas. Y sobre todo por la posibilidad de poder hacer una traducción simultanea del ingles al español.
Hi, actually got here since I play pc games using a mouse and that got me thinking about posture and techniques used in professional crafts and sports. Since pc gaming is relatively new looking at how semi related sports or other highly skilled dexterous activities such as painting writing and even sculpting to see what techniques are considered either "the best way" or equally optimal and how they make the most out of the relevant human anatomy is both interesting and a great way to evaluate my current understanding and personal hypothesis on the way I do certain things.
I do have one question though. You use the fingers entirely as a gripping mechanism, do small intricate movements with your wrist and larger ones with the arm and shoulder. Is this generally considered the optimal way to write that most people conform too, or is it more of a preference scenario?
Also since the fingers are the most dexterous part of the body is it not a waste to not make greater use of them for higher precision? Or is that level of precision not really necessary making the higher endurance and stability of the larger muscles of the wrist the better choice endurance wise?
Finally I'm unsure how much you may know, but what are the differences if any you have noticed between the posture and techniques used between different styles of writing and other similar activities such as painting or etching?
Ps this video gave me a lot of insite into why I always preferred writing with a fountain pen or similar nibbed pen and why I am so poor with a standard ball point pen. Your videos structure and your explanations are both very well done, this was a valuable experience for me thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it. Different scripts most definitely have different positions. I cover than one a paid version of this video which is an hour long. Finger dexterity is important but too much of a tight grip whilst trying to move the fingers as well will cause pain and damage. Smoothness of line in curves cannot be produced by the fingers they come from the bigger muscle groups. This is an ideal situation that is what people should aim for. Usually people end up at this video because they are in pain and are trying to correct their tool position, page placement and posture
Thank you for these videos! I used to have a terrible pen grip from poor learning back in grade school and had to relearn how to even hold it properly. In my research I saw it suggested that the large shoulder muscle can and should be used even for small movement, but I notice you use wrist movement also. I try to always use arm movement, tho not sure if I'm always successful. Do you think all writing can/should be done with arm movement? Or is there a benefit I'm missing by not using my wrist? Thanks for your time!
I use more than just my fingers, wrist and arm. There are lots of movements needed for this kind of thing. If you really want to look at this is depth I would suggest purchasing the longer videos mentioned here which are on shopify. They really going into this in much more detail.
very helpful video! :) may I ask what is the name of your nib holder? it looks gorgeous.
Trang Hoàng it is made by Chris Yoke
Thank you so much for your great work!
I've been practicing calligraphy and penmanship at the same time and the hand grip is quite a problem to me because it's so difficult to keep the fleshy part of the side of the hand kept off the paper all the time. Do you have any advice for this? Hope to see your reply soon :)
Thanks in advance!
Đức Đinh thanks for your message, this is something I deal with in the upcoming manual. It is a complex explanation so unfortunately i cannot type it here. The manual will also have supporting videos on UA-cam so one of the videos will assist in you in correction this.
if you are still struggling with this, you may want to purchase the Prerequisites via the shopify site - those videos are considerably more detailed.
more!
Is this diffrent for blackletter?
Great video as others on your channel. I have a question! For copperplate, one needs to keep the paper at an angle to get your nib aligned to the 55 degree guide. The angle of rotation of paper is higher if one uses a straight holder. In such case, as you write through the sentence, the letters farther away have a much different angle as seen by the eye than the ones closer to you. How do you compensate for this?
Prashant Athalye I am currently writing a manual on Copperplate script, this is covered in the manual. I also have some video on this as well on UA-cam. But you have to move the paper whilst you are writing.
PaulAntonioScribe Eagerly awaiting the manual :)
@@prashantathalye The manual is out but you might also want to purchase the videos on the shopify site - they are considerably more detailed than the ones presented here.
Do you have a specific straight holder which you recommend? And do you have a super which you recommend who stocks a wide variety of nibs, both modern and vintage?
ExecratedPlays The best holder I have was made by Chris Yoke. I use a Hunt22B, I dont use vintage nibs, they are too expensive
PaulAntonioScribe Excellent, thank you for the quick reply, and I'm glad you understood what I was asking even with the odd auto-correct mistake. How did it get super from supplier?
I've seen the Yoke Pen Co.'s work, and have been impressed by it. Your endorsement of Chris Yoke's products means a lot, and so I think I'll see about getting a straight holder from him.
Thank you, again, for your time.
ExecratedPlays not difficult once you know the context
I'm left handed. Will it be easier for me to use a straight holder for copperplate calligraphy as the left hand can easily sit a 55 degrees? But I noticed it is harder to use the wrist for movement instead of the fingers...
I think you will need to purchase the new content - it is really more indepth and really does look at lefties and how they should approach writing. These 3 videos are only an introduction. The new content is over 5 hours of content so I cannot just give that away
Excellent explanation. It could ave been better if the camera was positioned from your right side. That way we could see the movement/shoulder.
takemeway the muscular and whole arm movement is a completely other video. It was too complex to add into this video. It would have made the video too long. I will release a vid on this in a few months now the manual is completed
If you go to my shopify site, I have now uploaded over 5 hours of content. It is not for free though as it is over 5 hours of content
how does one transitio from the fingers to the wrist and shoulders ?
Matthias Lundberg that is a brilliant question. It take a lot of practise but the main thing is posture. You cannot in ANYWAY lean on the arm. That is the first thing
I now have 5 hours of content on this but it is not free. You can find it via the link above
I do have a question though. The Spencerian books say to use you fingers and forearm to move the pen, but to keep your wrist in a locked position without moving it. If you will, can you elaborate why you use this method rather than the one in the book?
Daniel this is too complex an answer to.m go into here. I am concentrating on my Copperplate Manual at the minute so i honestly don't have time to tackle this right now. So sorry.
PaulAntonioScribe good luck with your book! I understand and do thank you for atleast responding at all. I've actually figured out a way to hold the pen that works for me which is to hold the pen as specified in the book and bend the two other fingers under my hand to almost or even touch the base/palm part of the thumb and keep the palm off the paper. This to facilitate the Spencerian "glide".
@@Daniel-rv2kd I now have content to look at this in detail, unfortunately you will have to purchase it via the Shopify site, link is above. It is over 5 hours of content so I cannot give it away for free.
@@PAScribe thanks!
Lots of needed info here. Question: Have you produced videos which show your writing methods from overhead? I think it would be helpful to see what you see as you are creating your marks. Also, could you place a black outline close to the edges of the paper you're writing on? It is sometimes hard to see the difference between your paper and the table (especially in the sunshine). Thanks a bunch for your in-depth information!
Marla K. Brumbaugh thank you for your comments. These vids were made for people attending my classes so all additional info would be dealt with in a workshop setting. These were done as a preparation for the workshops. No over head ones were made as again it was as a preparation for classes. But you comments are duly noted.
I have now redone the videos, they are for sale on my Shopify site. I couldn't offer them for free as it is now over 5 hours of content
Is your hand not resting on the desk?
yes it is
I want to take a class with you . Where are you located ?
kevin I am teaching in San Francisco next week, then Chicago then NYC. Best to email thestudio@pascribe.com back in London on the 8th of November
I have some online content coming up email thestudio@pascribe.com and I can add you to the list so when the content comes out you will be notified.
Thank you for your video. I have a tangential criticism: muscle memory is a metaphor, and nothing is actually stored in the muscles. It's still your brain doing it.
Tim Teatro thanks for your reply. I used Muscle Memory as it is easier for people to associate with. Explaining what we refer to as muscle memory would have required much too much time. It looks like you understand this concept better than most and might be able to explain this more clearly, it would be great if you would do a video to explain this
Sir I am also a calligrapher but at small level and want to learn calligraphy I am from INDIA 🇮🇳 m
Great that you are keen to learn
Have you ever taught a lefty ?
kevin lemus kevin lemus I love teaching lefties. These 3 videos are appropriate for left handers as well, especially the posture vid. The placement and position vids need to be mirrored. Adjustments for left handers, in a one off vid, are tricky, as there are some many left hand pen-holds and paper variations.
If you are still struggling, you may want to look at the new versions of these videos I have on Shopify