Parents React To *A SILENT VOICE* (For The First Time) Koe No Katachi Supercut
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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2024
- In today's episode of couples React, we react to A Silent Voice also known as Koe no Katachi for the first time!
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You know what's crazy? This masterpiece lost at the Oscars to "Boss Baby."
Still can't get over that to this day 😂. Fckin ridiculous
Please tell me that's a joke
No shot 😭
really?
Boss Baby was good but yea, this was movie-of-the-decade worthy
Fun fact, Nishimiya in the english dub is voice acted by an actual deaf person.
From the English dub yes you are correct but no when it comes to the japanese actress whom I can't remember her name but is one of my favourite va with yor in spy family and shinobu in demon slayer being a couple other roles amongst many others she's known for
@@christopherpage2622 Oh, really? I'll correct it, thanks.
@@christopherpage2622 hayami saori, va for yor and shinobu
@@kokorodesu ah yes thanks for telling me. I just checked if I was right and I was lol
Wow, mis respetos!
Back when I was in high school I recommended this movie to my health teacher and she showed the class and used it as a lesson on the effects of exclusion, holding grudges, and how important second chances can be.
Edit: Also as a way to tell us to remember how much children truly value each other and need guidance.
what were her thoughts on it?
@@fob4less She loved it! She was glad that I recommended it to her, she told me that she bawled the first time she watched it and that her husband teared up too(when she showed him).
@@shanajeangedeon9060 I always recommend this movie and love hearing others opinions on it. There is so much to break down.
u had a great teacher, most teachers be like " cartoon stuff, why do i care "
@@theodoreonstret I was very lucky, most of my teachers were really great and cared so much about our education. (Maybe because I grew up in New Rochelle, the teachers there are usually very nice)
didnt see anyone mentioning it but kawai san is
the type of bully who tries to potray herself as a very
nice person. lf you look very closely at the singing
scene u can see that kawai san started mouthing
the words early and nishimiya looked over and thats
why she started singing. Just wanted to let ppl who
didnt catch that know!
damn that's crazy I thought it was something like "she was the leader so she was getting into the tempo". probably bad take but I do feel Kawai was worse than Ueno.
@@GiulianoVenturo I saw it mentioned multiple times and I think this is the fact also a lot of ppl mentioned that in the manga they show more of how much discreet bullying kawai did so I agree with u that in my opinion she's worse cuz she basically didn't change
i didn't catch that one! but yeah, she seems like a total people pleaser and the way she was acting near that orange boy was so obvious, i thought they were gonna catch that but they didn't.
I always hated her the most in this movie tbh. I feel like out of everyone she didn't learn anything.
@@yashbinu2005 That's why whenever I see her start crying I say "crocodile tears"
2:09:12 People believe that in Japan, if someone made 1000 paper cranes, their wish would be granted. Kawai probably wished that Shoya would heal. For an example, a girl named Sadako who was diagnosed by leukemia, caused by the atomic bombing of hiroshima, started to make 1000 paper cranes so she would heal. Sadly, she died before getting to make 1000. She only got to make 644 and her friends made the rest after her death. If I remember right, the cranes are in a museum. They wrote a book about Sadako. She was only 12 years old when she died. The book’s name is Sadako and the thousand paper cranes..
The thousands and thousands of paper cranes at the children's memorial at the atom bomb site in hiroshima makes more sense to me now. Dark.
You know this movie lost Oscar nomination to Boss Baby cartoon movie. Unbelievable 😏
Seriously? Yikes
is that true?
did some research... damn it's true
Yes it's true.
Welp only thing that tells us, is that the oscars aren't worth anything.
There is also a second important mistranslation in this version of the subtitles. Towards the end of the movie in the scene at the bridge (2:01:56) he doesn't say 'I want to help you live', he says 'I want *you* to help *me* live'.
@@zephshoir I'm perfectly ready to admit when I'm wrong, but I now tried four different online translation services, all translate 君に生きるのを手伝って欲しい as 'I want you to help me live'. That's also what it says in the official manga translation.
@@Belgabor I shamefully made the same mistake that the translation made, I apologize, it is a minor detail but is an easy mistake to make so I will explain it:
"I want you to help me live":
君に生きるのを手伝ってほしい。
"I want to help you live"
君に生きるのを手伝いたい。
Both たい and ほしい mean "to want", たい basically is a conjugation that integrates ほしい (to want) into a verb itself, so I thought these 2 sentences were the same. Also, the receiver in the sentence (marked by に) is also "you" 「君」。The one "doing something" is "me" (the implied 私 normally ommited in japanese). So I thought that the speaker 私 was the one both "wanting" and "helping", with 君に receiving both actions. But 私 here is only "wanting". What I missed and differentiates the sentences is the て form of the verb "to help" 手伝う>手伝って、 which indicates that the speaker is "requesting" someone else to do the action, (which is also why it has to use ほしい instead of たい at the end). The receiver 「君に」is being requested to help 「手伝って」by the speaker (implied 私) who "wants" that「ほしい」. For completion sake, what follows を is the verbs, indicating what is being done, and is preceded by a noun, which is receiving the action. Said noun is 「生きるの」, 「生きる」 is the verb "to live", 「の」 is there simply to turn into into a noun (there is a lot of ways to turn verbs and clauses into nouns in japanese).
In short, I am so ashamed of making this same mistake while I bragged a bit that I felt the need to explain all of this to save some face. 😅 (I also deleted the comment 😭)
@@zephshoir No worries. I looked some more into it and fortunately one of the translation pages allows you to look at more information about the parts of the phrase. Which included the hint that, like you explained, the -te form of the verb together with the hoshi at the end basically turns the meaning around.
Long story short, it seems like an easy mistake to make, feels like a pretty non-intuitive grammatical construct.
You are the first reactors to me who actually tried to understand the kids psychology of this movie. It took 4 to 5 time as 19 yo to understand the psychology behind this.
I watched this when I was 15 and most of the movie seemed confusing to me. It's interesting how as we grow up our way of seeing and understanding things shiftshapes.
I don't think I truly understood until my 3rd watch. When I finally put together everything it really helped me understand myself
The manga is easier as more things happen and they are more space out and more clearly shown
i understood it in the 2nd watch and i'm younger 😇
The comic/manga would give more in depth about the movie.
1. Nagatsuka wears the Hollywood shirt because there's a side plot in the manga where they actually film a movie for a contest. Nagatsuka is the director. all the friends are part of the movie.
2. The reason the friends always gather on the bridge is to get together whenever they are gonna film the scenes for their movie.
3. Nishimiya's parents are divorced after they found out she was born deaf and the mom went through the task of being a single mother.
4. in the opening scene you see Nishimiya sitting with wet dirty hair in Ishida's salon. that's because she was also bullied in her old school. her mother attempted to get her a boy-ish haircut in hopes of getting her to look tougher.
5. Kawai is actually the worst bully in the manga because she never changed until the end whereas Ueno had a small development. she liked Mashiba and changed her hair to get his attention. she purposely makes Nishimiya look pitiful to make herself seem better whenever in the same space.
6. while searching for a filming location, Mashiba and Ishida try to film at their old elementary school. in the process of getting permission, they meet their old teacher the glasses guy and he talked about how Nishimiya deserved the bullying. Mashiba was furious and splashed water on the teacher.
7. Ueno has always liked Ishida since 6th grade and then took care of him in the hospital. she probably kissed him while he was in the coma because they never showed that panel after that.
8. Nishimiya studies to become a hairdresser after high school and moves far away for a bit. She comes back tho so no worries.
9. the manga ends with their graduation ceremony. Ishida and Nishimiya hold hands as they go into the hall.
9. If I remember correctly it was the class reunion, not the graduation. Could be wrong though
@@revenge425 yeah I didn't exactly remember what the event was tbh and wrote this at like 2am so I was kinda lazy to go back to the manga
Just popping in to clarify that it was the coming of age ceremony at the end of the manga!
For anyone reading who's not familiar with it, Coming of Age Day is a national holiday held annually on the second Monday of January where 20 year-olds across the country gather at their local city/municipality's hall for a ceremony celebrating their entrance into adulthood. Girls tend to come dressed to the nines in furisode (kimono with sleeves that reach the floor), and guys in either kimono + hakama (the "pants" that go over kimono) or suits. Although it's not like you can't technically show up in a T-shirt and sweatpants since there's no actual dress code written on the letter sent in the mail...
Anyway, the important point is that we have a couple year's time skip so you get to see how everyone's been adjusting to university or their respective new lifestyles. Everyone officially leaves childhood and becomes a "member of society" (adults).
And thank you for summing up the extra points of the manga in such an easy-to-read list!
It was super interesting watching the movie the first time and noting what was omitted/changed for adaptation, so it's cool to see someone taking the time to put together some of these differences for film watchers.
8. is slightly different cause ishida goes with her to become a hairdresser like his mom.
You're absolutely right about the depressed people cleaning and all that stuff and how it's misinterpreted as them getting better. I remember when I was in a bad spot, I got a rush of energy to clean my room and bad my clothes and stuff so it'd be easier on my mom before I tried to end my life. My mom was super proud of me for cleaning my room, so it wasn't really a red flag or anything. I'm fine now, luckily but a suicidal person getting "control" of their life and being happy very suddenly is a HUGE red flag
This is probably the most important comment on this video...
A Silent Voice: The story in which Nishimiya is the Deaf Girl but Ishida is the one who doesn't want to hear
wow reading your comment gave me goosebumps!!
@@haruka_niki well this isn't really orginal..many have said this before and I am merely copying them
@@itzmehDevi okiess!! love your honesty! :)
@@haruka_niki :D
2:02:00 - I much prefer the other translation " I want you, to help me, live" it speaks to Ishidas belief that life is worth living, the value and purpose he sees in his connection to shoko. That she isnt a burden, in fact quite the opposite. Its a vulnerable request that doesn't make shoko the damsel in distress
Since that's the true translation.
That is the actual literal translation.
In fact, in the movie there are quite a few mistranslations here and there, I guess the product of localizers, if you didn't hate them enough already. Localizers tend to interpret so many things differently and change wording and meaning to fit what they believe it's being told rather than what it actually says, with some localizers changing even more to fit their political agenda.
ちゃんと日本語の直訳で翻訳してほしい。
And Ishida's JSL signs in this scene are: [you] + [live] + [help me], which means: "I want you to help me live."
YES this movie is so beautiful both emotionally and artistically definitely one of the goats of anime movies
The paper cranes gift at the end is basically this belief in Japan that making a thousand paper cranes and giving them to someone who's ill will help with their recovery. Its the equivalent of a "get well soon" card but one that's homemade with a bunch of dedication and thought behind it. (Seriously, have you ever tried to make more than one paper crane? Those things are hard to make!)
1:31:06
It wasn't Ueno who said she hates herself, it's Nishimiya that says it. I'm not sure if you just mixed up the names or not, but just in case you genuinely believe it's Ueno who said that, it's not. When Nishimiya's little sister asks Ishida what he thinks after watching her say that, he replies with "I want Nishimiya to come to love herself," Not "I want her to like Nishimiya," and when he said "I hate me too" on the bridge at 1:33:46 he was referring back to when Nishimiya said she hate's herself on the Ferris wheel.
Also, in the scene where Ueno is throwing Nishimiya around after Ishida fell off saving Nishimiya, Ueno was mad at Nishimiya because Ueno had a crush on Ishida and was mad that he got hurt saving Nishimiya, and then was mad that Nishimiya felt bad about it because from Ueno's perspective, Nishimiya is kind of a love rival as well as someone who caused all her friends to fall apart.
Overall though, it's a great reaction to an absolute masterpiece of a movie. I'm glad you guys liked it, and felt sad about it... and mad at some points, but it's all by design. This movie is in my opinion the greatest movie ever made. It has such an important and impactful message about change, growth, and overcoming that is told in a responsible, not idealistic, and beautiful way.
The translation had me confused as well cause as far as i remember Ishida said he wants Nishimiya to love herself. Thanks for clearing it up
Not sure what service they watched it on, but this specific version of the subtitles seems pretty poorly done. There's a much better version of the subs that both has a better translation overall and slightly skews and misspells Shoko's subs so you have a better idea of what others are hearing when she speaks.
i've seen this movie like 8 times, a few of those being in the dub. While i genuinely loved their reaction, this was probably the worst translated and subtitled among them
@@moneyboy503 Same, and agreed. I've seen this translation before, I believe it was on Amazon Prime, but I might be wrong about that, I've seen this movie on a lot of different platforms with a few different versions of the subtitles.
Yeh translation is off putting
"WAIT DID NISHIMIYA DIED!?"
"oh no it's just grandma"
"PHEWWWWW"
😂
Let's be honest...the grandma had it coming.
@@OGnewar Well, we all do.
Ngl I cried for a long time over that scene, it was like four in the morning, I was running on caffeine, and I was just absolutely bawling my eyes out because the poor grandma died!
About little Shoya, he was a big people pleaser. While Shoko was in their class, he kept seeing his friends and classmates having to deal with her that they end up lowkey resenting her. As somewhat the big man of the class/group or the leader somewhat, he felt like he should do something abt to express how everyone is starting to not like dealing with her, and it came in the form of bullying her so she stays far away from all of them. Shoya never had any interaction with Shoko on his own, it's always just him looking at the way others interact with her or the aftermath of interacting with her. That's why when the identity of the bully was questioned, Shoya was all like "w8 a minute, yall did it too" unfortunately he's the one that crossed the line and caused some damage. When his mom got involved, as when he sees her bleeding out after meeting up with the Nishimiya fam, his disdain of her only kept getting bigger, especially when he sees Shoko beeing all goody2shoes towards him, of course he didnt understand that she was just trying to be friends and have peace between them.
I'm glad that someone picked up on that. In his mind he did all of that for his friends but then he got betrayed by all of them. Thats why he has so much problems later on contemplating what "friends" means.
I've never been more impacted by a movie like I was by A Silent Voice. This is my favorite anime movie of all time
*Context about the father and his family: Shoko disability was discover when she was 3 years old, once it happened her Father+grandparents and Her mother + grandmother had a reunion were the father ask a divorce, when the mother ask a motive, the father said:”you deceived us, you didn’t tell us you were going to give birth a deaf kid”.
Shoko disability is supposed to be a side effect of a illnes(they didn’t mentioned what illness) but Shoko’s mother said she was infected by Shoko’s father, they said she should had the vaccination and Shoko’s mother said:”if I had know at the time”….
Basically the father and his family didn’t want to have any responsibility and contact with Shoko once they discover she was deaf, Shoko’s mother was pregnant at that moment but didn’t tell the family cause she was about weeks basically she didn’t was sure about being pregnant. Shoko’s mother then decided to divorce and go to a Hospital interview and work, while the grandmother decided to take care of Shoko and the future child (Yuzuru). The grandmother is the one who took Shoko and later Yuzuru to learn sign language. That’s cause Shoko’s mother didn’t implicated in as the grandmother and Yuzuru and why she didn’t use sign language.
I recommend everybody to read the manga, it give more details and perspective, Shoko’s father chapter is 31-32. You can read it in Mangalife.
and at the end Shoko and Ishida's moms get drunk together bitching about their ex husbands and bond
Loved how y'all had your own insights of whats going on in the movie and how everyone interprets it differently. Absolutely loved how y'all applied your own life into the story and how you explored your own experiences. It made the movie much more meaningful and educational with how children/people work. I always enjoy y'all reactions and how emotionally/intellectually you guys get invested into the story put your own perspectives and also connecting it with your own children as parents!
Thank you so much!!! ❤️❤️
Ueno didn’t say «I hate myself». Nishimiya did
Great reaction guys, just wanted to let you know in the Ferris wheel scene, it was Nishimiya that said she hates herself, not Ueno. That's why she does what she does later in the movie. I really appreciate your analytical perspective of this movie. One of the few reactors, I trust to try and understand what is happening.
I hurt somebody badly once. Somebody like Nishimiya, and I did it for no reason other than I was angry and they tried to interact with me. I was around that age too. The guilt was so bad I actually repressed the memory until years later when somebody who was there, and like his friends egged me on, reminded me of what I did as if it were a funny story. There was a moment of denial, when I legitimately didn't remember it and thought they were making it up. But eventually it started to ring a bell and I started to remember. And I was hit by a wave of guilt that never got processed. I lost a lot of sleep because of it. Some nights when I was trying to sleep and my mind wandered it would pop back into my head and I would curl up into the fetal position and just want a giant hole to swallow me up. I wanted to crawl in a hole and die.
I had no way of finding that person, unfortunately, I never learned who they were and even if I did I would never have had the nerve to speak to them. But I am sorry. I have spent so many years being sorry. Even as a grown man I would have panic attacks if something prompted that memory to resurface. I would shut down in the middle of a conversation or stop what I was doing for an extended period and just spiral into a cyclical thought pattern of self-loathing and shame. The harm I did to them, physically was not great, I don't know what kind of harm I did to them emotionally because I never saw them again, but I hurt myself so many times because of it. It wasn't about the pain I caused, it was about how little I cared in the moment, how horribly I acted towards another person, how out of control I was, even as a kid I was so deeply ashamed that I just shut down and blocked it out. I've forgiven myself for it, because there isn't any other option but to do that, but I still think about that kid sometimes. It doesn't hurt me anymore to think of it, at least not in the way it used to, but it does make me sad to think of the confusion and pain and anger they must have felt at how unfairly and callously I treated them. They were innocent, but so was I, I was only a kid too and I hadn't lost the innocence that allows kids to be unbelievably cruel sometimes. I think that was the moment I did though.
Thank you for sharing ❤️❤️ I think this is more common than most people would ever admit
I have a similar story, I remember leaving this school in elementary and a few years later I transferred back to that same school in like 4th or 5th grade and this girl really really liked me alot and I treated her like shit. At the time I didn't realize how hurtful I was being but as an adult at 30 years old I look back at it and feel really guilty, It kinda hurts my own feelings but I still remember the look on her face when I hurt her feeling. There's another time at another school in 6th grade I picked on this girl and threw her school supplies in the trash and told her she was flat chested but again I didn't fully understand what I did was wrong, I thought I was just flirting with her by being mean because girls who liked me back then were mean to me like that like they would flirt with me in that way and later realized the reason it hurt her feelings so bad is because she liked me. A few weeks later I saw her and her mom at the park and her mom talked to me and asked if I was the boy who bullied her and said to just be more nice to her etc.. I never had the courage to apologize to that girl so I just left it alone. Of course I felt guilty but at the time I didn't know how much of an asshole I really was. There are worse stories, I had a very traumatic childhood and that probably explains why I was a jerk, still doesn't excuse it but I've grown alot since then. I was a borderline sociopath in those days but at the same time I felt just like Shoya, I didn't believe I deserved to be loved because I didn't receive much of it in my childhood. I still feel ashamed for how I treated that girl in 6th grade but I imagine she's doing good and probably forgot all about it but who knows.
this film has a special place in my heart, it always will. i'm so glad that you guys sat down and analysed everything - character's behaviour, etc. it's nice to see
36:15 this really gave me something to think about, i love how both of you can articulate your thoughts and also build off of each others thoughts as well
this movie is an absolute classic. one of if not the best anime movies of all time
Ive seen this movie so many times, it always makes me cry :(.
It always saddens me a bit when people get the mistranslated version. It's easy to tell from the occasional missing translations when they sign, but I'm glad you got it explained. A little error in context can change the whole perception of the movie. 34 years old and I still have to hold back tears when watching this
A Silent Voice is one of the best anime movies I have ever watched, I am so glad you reacted to it! By the way, there are many moments from the manga that didn't make it into the movie. If you wanna learn more about the supporting cast, get more info about the main characters' backstories and see how everyone's stories wrapped up, I recommend giving it a read.
On a side note, thanks for telling us about the errors in translation with Ueno's moments. It's the first time I heard about it and wow, everything makes so much more sense now. Turns out she has a heart and is not a sadistic psychopath, lol
Well, it's wrong though. They were either mistaken or misinformed. She is definitely not a good person, although her motives are much more understandable once you know where she's coming from.
There's two important facets to her character. It's told much more directly in the manga, but if you pay very close attention to details in the movie, you can at least suspect them.
First, she is in love with Ishida. This, at least to me, completely explains her reaction in front of the hospital. Of course it's not something one would condone, but flipping out at a girl who almost got the one you love killed (in your view) is something I think one can emphasize with.
This part is actually pretty clear in the movie once you think about it. The way she reacts when he comes to the cat cafe, how she basically doesn't leave his side in the hospital. Also listen to her voice actress in the scene in front of the flower shop after Ishida returns the hearing aid to Nishimiya. She seems to be mockingly laughing, but it also sounds like she's very close to crying. Which, if memory doesn't fail me, she does in the manga after this scene. She goes home and pretty much falls apart because she realizes she's lost him.
Second, she honest to a fault. Her views are skewed, but she is honest about it. Hence the scene in the ferris wheel. She want to have an honest grown up talk with Shoko, but from her point of view, Shoko is lying to her and refusing to have a proper talk.
This, as she herself admits, doesn't make her a good person, but, at least in my opinion, a redeemable one. Which makes it believable that the first signs of a change for the better at the end are sincere.
@@BelgaborYou're right. And because of how easy it was to misinterpret the translation, I missed these details about her character when I watched the movie for the first time
SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS THANK YOU GUYS 🫶
Just a little explanation:
The papar cranes that kawai handed to Sho, a a sign for a long life. Its based on the Story: "sadako and the thousand papercranes".
What does it mean to give someone 1000 cranes?
Traditionally, it was believed that if one folded 1,000 origami cranes, one's wish would come true. It has also become a symbol of hope and healing during challenging times. As a result, it has become popular to fold 1.000 cranes (in Japanese, called “senbazuru”).
That’s beautiful
I need a Wes and Steph story time of how they got together 😂 1:19:10
One of the best reactions I've seen to this beautiful movie. Thanks guys
Wow, thank you!
This is 2 weeks after it was released and many people were talking about the the bad subtitles, but I haven't seen anybody mention this particular one. In the hospital scene between Ueno and Shoko it said "I thought you were going to kill yourself" when it should be "You thought you would kill yourself." It completely changes that scene from "Ishida got hurt because of your selfish actions" to basically "I want you to die." It doesn't change the whole calling her a cancer/disease, but it gives you the idea that Ueno cares about Ishida which is why she is so upset (and also explains why she was in his hospital room).
1:31:00
Actually, UENO said that she hates Nishimiya.
The one who said "I hate myself" was Nishimiya.
I never caught on that, so I tried a little harder with my poor japanese, and the error is on Nishimiya's "I dont hate you", when she's actually saying "I hate MYSELF".
Translation is missing a line. Ueno said"i think you hate me". Shoko said"i don't (hate you), i hate myself"
You guys are pretty sharp, you notice a lot of stuff that isn't really explained, like Yuzuru's pictures and such.
The moms in this show are definitely badasses. Ms. Ishida's interaction with Shouko after the fall is a lot different in the source material - she sees her for the first time at the hospital and she just smiles and peaces out entirely. "I can't face you right now, so wait until Ishida wakes up, okay?"
Ueno's my favorite character. She's very straightforward, and I think the only character to treat Nishimiya as something beyond 'oh she's deaf and harmless'. The movie doesn't do much to complicate her persona, sadly... there's none of the self-loathing and reflection she feels, and her crush on Shoya is only really noticeable in that a lot of her actions are for him or defending him. The movie is rightly praised for how subtle it is, but it's consequently pretty easy to miss little details.
The Anime Dude's youtube examination of how Ueno 'doesn't show remorse' for her 6th grade bullying of Nishimiya does a pretty good job of explaining it. She never really faced any repercussions of it, for one; there was no negative reinforcement of what she did, all of it fell on Shoya because their 6th grade teacher is a lazy piece of shit, and it was more convenient to just have one scapegoat. For another, the show focuses on her being an asshole to Shoko in that 6th grade flashback, but we see from the start that she's also Shoko's notetaker - the school didn't provide one, and the teacher just fuckin talked in class without making any kind of accomodation for Shoko. That's essentially doubled work in school, and the teacher STILL gives her shit for dumb stuff like 'subpar reading', only to give Shouko a pass right after. Shoko, to her, was a burden that she unfairly was tasked with dealing with.
Sawai is worst girl. She's a fair weather friend at best until she thinks you're talking shit, at which point she fucking eviscerates you all to save her own skin.
I don't think it's 'optional' that Yuzuru goes to school, more that mom's working too much to make her and grandma saw it was more important to her to be a support for her sister.
GREAT reaction for the most part you are on point (like always when it comes into reading characters)
Here comes a wall of text (you could call it a thesis lmao). Tread carefully. Its about Ueno and for anyone hating her with a fiery passion.
I understand that many of you may hate Ueno and that is fine but it seems most have forgotten In grade school the first person to reach out to Nishimiya when she arrives was Ueno, this is made abundantly clear where she asks for Nishimiya’s notebook while everyone else was still shocked that she was deaf.
During lessons, Nishimiya would ask what the teacher says because the Teacher never changed the way he taught to account for her disability, so Ueno took it upon herself to explain to Nishimiya what he was saying causing her to miss parts of the lessons as well. As time goes on, the Nishimiya situation is constantly complained about amongst her peers because sacrifices have to be made in order to compensate for her and integrate her into their school life, Ueno attempts to get this through to Nishimiya in her notebook when they are practicing choir (by saying just mouth the words) but they lose the choir competition as a result because it just doesn’t sound as good anymore, and Nishimiya can only apologize.
PLEASE don’t forget these are kids, they lack the maturity and reasoning of someone of our age, so instead of seeing Nishimiya as someone who needs additional help, they see her as a burden that’s costing them everything. The last straw for Ueno was being told that she’d have to learn sign language to better communicate with Nishimiya, where she states it’s easier for her to write to her, and the assistant teacher says “well it’s easier for Nishimiya to do ASL”, not accounting for how Ueno feels and instead, again, accommodating for Nishimiya’s deficiency (and it’s made evident this what the impression the author wanted to give off when they show the reading scene where Ueno is told to stop reading, yet Nishimiya who can’t correctly pronounce the words, is allowed to continue).
AS A KID this stings because nobody is taking to account HOW YOU feel. Ueno explains this feeling to her on the Ferris Wheel and she says she doesn’t want to be friends and can’t bring herself to forgive her, which is understandable because to Ueno, Nishimiya only burdens those she interacts with, which isn’t exactly true (from our omniscient eyes) but isn’t exactly false either (from what she’s seen). Ueno tells her it’s okay to hate her because Ueno hates her too and they can act as if they tolerate each other for the group (for Ishida’s sake obviously, more obvious in the manga) but Nishimiya says “I don’t hate you, I hate myself ” this statement causes Ueno to erupt because she feels she’s not listening to her and she’s not trying to understand her even to this day, all Nishimiya can do is “apologize” ...this moment was Ueno trying to compromise for Ishida in her own way without exactly lying to herself about how she feels about Nishimiya, but Nishimiya, In Ueno’s eyes, rejects this.
We, the Audience, know Nishimiya harbors no ill will against her. Ueno loves Ishida, this has been obvious since they were kids, and it’s still the case when they’ve grown up, she regrets not standing up for him when everyone else used him as a scapegoat. She is doing everything in her power to get him to forgive her and accept her just as Ishida is doing the SAME for Nishimiya. To Ueno, Nishimiya coming to the school ruined everything, the friendship with Ishida and the chemistry within the classroom as a whole. In her eyes, she’s only seen Nishimiya as being a burden and when Ishida almost loses his life to save Nishimiya, she is justifiably upset. You seriously cannot tell me she had no right to be when the guy she cares for and loves nearly kills himself in order to save the girl who she sees as being only a burden for him, in her eyes this reinforces her belief. She confronts her at the hospital and attacks her, letting out all her frustrations and anger on Nishimiya and also her mom when she shows to defend her. The only person who can understand how Ueno feels in this scene is Nishimiya’s sister. THIS is why Nishimiya’s sister doesn’t stop Ueno, and does anyone give her shit for it? No.
I really don’t see how anyone says her arc is bad because if you pay any attention to the supporting characters, you may not like it, but you can understand where she’s coming from. She doesn’t have to have a redeeming character arc for her character arc to be successful. because a character doesn’t react the way you think you would doesn’t make them inherently bad characters. She says back then she couldn’t understand her as a person but she was doing the BEST SHE COULD, but Nishimiya couldn’t understand her either, and so she(Ueno) intentionally started to badmouth her in order to give the hint to stay away, but Nishimiya doesn’t take up on it. (Again I feel the Manga explains this better and shows the bullying wasn’t as immediate as the movie let’s on) She never denies her part of her bullying after they grow up, in fact she takes responsibility for it as opposed to back when they were kids, this is growth from her as a kid because she let Ishida take the fall alone. I think that it’s entirely the teachers/adults fault for forcing the kids into a situation they were not prepared for, they weren’t equipped with knowledge and maturity they have now.
Everyone has their own way of projecting emotions and their frustrations, I’m not saying she was in the right for attacking Nishimiya because she wasn’t, Nishimiya did not mean for Ishida to be hurt, BUT I’m saying I can understand where Ueno is coming from having almost lost someone she truly cares for and loves. The same way people say Uenos “development was weak” can be said for Nishimiya. She’s still apologetic and despite everyone’s attempts to make her see the good in the world and in herself she still tries to kill herself, is that fair to state? Of course not, because we can understand her and where she’s coming from, we know depression and self-loathing can’t be remedied with something from a first aid kit. It takes time and it takes self reflection and even that, sometimes isn’t enough. Is her anger misplaced, in our eyes maybe, but in her eyes no, it’s all about perspective.
I don’t think it’s fair to say Ueno’s reaction was unjustified either, because at this point, Ishida hasn’t woken up yet and is in a coma, she’s again grieving in the sense you would for loss, and emotions are at an all time high for everyone. Her perspective is “you did this to him and he’s dead and you aren’t”. She doesn’t know if he’s waking up or not, she just knows Nishimiya was there and Nishimiya was trying to kill herself and Ishida stopped her, and now he’s badly hurt. This enforces her stance that Nishimiya only brings misery. I think we can all agree with the sentiment of “actions have consequences” Nishimiya actions resulted in Ishida being hurt. Did she mean for it happen? Of course not. But it did, and Ueno (who’s already shown to be violent) is projecting her anger on who she sees is the source. I do advise reading the manga because the Manga protrays this soo much better and gives soo much more details in this scene. In conclusion, I really appreciate the take on Ueno’s character and she gets soo much hate for being human.
I think most people just get caught up in Ueno being violent (understandably), as Wes and Steph seemed to, preventing them from bothering to try understanding her reasons. They, however, then made it clear that they spiraled with Ueno (from the future).
@@TheSilenthvok loved their cuts/edits from the future ^_^
Quite a Bible but I loved it
Well put. I agree Ueno gets a disproportionate amount of hate compared to the others, when she is arguably the one most willing to move forward and improve. The teacher was never brought up in the future, Kawai never truly gets consequences for her indirect bullying and never actually learns her lesson, and the other boys choose to move on, burn their bridges and never acknowledges Nishimiya nor their involvement in her bullying. Sahara made little progress, running away again when tensions got high, but she was also a victim of bullying in the elementary school days, so that's understandable.
She doesn't shy away from admitting she was part of the problem, and she is always direct and straightforward about her thoughts. She stops the bullying actions when Ishida disapproves of it when they reunite, gets jealous because she notices Ishida having feelings for Nishimiya, and chooses to confront her privately at the amusement park rather than in a group environment making a scene (Contast that to the myriad of times Kawai raised her volume to make sure everyone hears about their dirty laundry). She attempts to reunite the boys with Ishida, not realizing how far they drifted apart. While it was unsuccessful, it at least caused them to come to his aid when he had his accident. The physical attacks on Nishimiya only resumed when Ishida gets seriously injured from saving Nishimiya, which is why she took over his care in her own hands and kept everyone away from his hospital room. In the end, she doesn't lie and act as if it was okay, she admits to Ishida she still can't like Nishimiya (due to them both liking Ishida). She, however, was willing to learn sign language (even if only to diss Nishimiya).
Her actions are understandable, and yet she's hated because she was the "visible" one. I always found it ironic because people always talk about how they hate those who act behind others' backs, yet when shown an example of someone who directly confronts vs someone who connives in the back (Ueno vs Kawai) the one people bring up the most is Ueno.
For myself, i feel that Kawai is worse than Ueno. I know, Ueon physically hurt Shoko. But atleast, Ueon knew she is a bad person by herself. Other than Kawai who wanted to be seen as a nice and innocent girl, who didnt see when she doing something wrong.
The blonde girl pretended to sing so Nishimiya started singing. The blonde girl wanted to look good like she’s helping her friend saying ‘you started too soon, follow me’ and Nishimiya is confused because she thought that’s what she was doing. She was using her to look like a good classmate not because she was being a nice friend.
I think you would love Makoto Shinkai's movies.
These are my favorites:
- Your name
- Weathering with you
- Suzume no tojimari
I would love to see you react to them ❤
One of my favourite parts from the manga is Mashiba's role in the story. His big flaw in the manga is that he's a bully hunter, and he'll beat up anyone who is a bully or has been a bully, irrespective of the other person's life or whether they've changed. Ishida's actions in saving Nishimiya makes him reflect on his own actions, and realise that his bully hunter tendencies aren't really helping all that much, so during the scene where Ishida is in the bathroom stall, instead of Nagatsuka who comes and convinces him to face everyone, it's Mashiba, who had realised that despite the fact that Ishida was a bully in the past, doesn't mean he should be judged based on that now, and gives him a pep talk to build up the courage to face people again. Sadly, they didn't have the time to develop his character enough in the anime, so they went with Nagatsuka instead, which still works.
I love how you guys go back to sort up things you said in your reaction after learning more about certain scenes. A lot of people don't do that and I think thats very cool :D
YO that sponsor was great !!! Love it when creators merge the ad with the content itself !!
that moment when the cross marks fallen off people's faces, I've been through that. and I cried too when that happened. it's a flood of emotions with overwhelming relief and gratefulness.
Man any time I watch A Silent Voice, someone somewhere starts cuttin’ onions. Never fails.
I love this movie so much and every time I watch it I love it more. Actually I rewatched last year and cried for the first time in like 6 years
The storys of you together when you were young are so sweet :)
ikr, it sounds like something straight out of a movie
I really loved hearing your stories and thoughts on this movie, loved your reaction!!! T. T
9:58 I've honestly learned something from your story here, that little section made this whole video a lot more heartfelt. Thank you 💓
Thank you!! I was nervous to share
10:29 you mom did absolutely good. It takes a village to raise a child and that's what your mom did. ❤
just finished the Deathnote marathon from ya'll and so glad you picked up this film. haven't even watched it, only 30 seconds in and I know we are gonna be tearing up together Steph. Ive seen it 3 times and still cry to it.
This is one of the few movies, anime or live action, that brings me to tears every time. Went through a lot of the same stuff as Ishida (not the being a bully part) but same with my friends bullying me throughout middle school even the same Ueno pretending that they are still friends as she and his friends never did anything to him. My friends just acted as if nothing ever happened, it certainly does. Number of your psyche.
I didn't you would react to this move tysm ♥
If I remember correctly at some stage you were a bit dubious on why she flipped around so quickly without him even apologizing. I thing there is a pretty good explanation in the movie, but it is hidden in subtleties that are hard to grasp, especially on your first view. The is, imo, a movie that has to be watched at least twice, there are some many small things and hints to discover that you'll miss on your first watch, especially when your under the pressure of reacting to it for an audience.
The reason for why she pretty much immediately forgives him, even without an apology, is in my view this.
Rewatch the scene at 16:36, especially what she does when she's in the pool. This is tricky because it contradicts your expectations and therefore you are easy to miss it if you do not pay close attention. You expect her to step into the pool and retrieve the book that is so important to her. But that is not what she does, she pushes it to the ground of the pool. Essentially she buries her only means of communication with the others, at this point she's given up.
Later, when he's pushed in himself into the pool, he finds the book, that's how he gets it. Trickily this is shown earlier in the movie, at a point you don't really understand what's going on and are confused about the short skip into the future, so while he technically makes clear what's going on by saying 'how did this get here', you can't really process it as you lack proper context.
Now years later this obviously changed boy comes back to her, has learned sign language and returns to her what used to be her only means of communication. Can you fault her for being forgiving?
wow thanks,i would have NEVER in my life see that tiny little detail. (And yes i always had that doubt of why she forgave him so fast. Really, thank you stranger!
I love this channel so much
6:25 In this part,You can see Kawaii start fake singing to trick Shoko, and then Shoko starts singing, and Miki goes “Oh not not yet, I’ll let you know when to sing”
I hate Kawaii so much,even more than ueno
The most emotionally intelligent reaction of this movie I've seen. As someone around Ishida and Nishimiya's age it's really nice to see them point out stuff that I never even realised because I'm in the same sort of mindset as the characters and don't have a grown up perspective. That being said I do think that Ueno is one of the most accurate depictions of a teenager I've ever seen or at least some of the people I know, there's so many things about her that can give you so many different impressions and I think that's a sign of a very well written character, from being selfish, not understanding of others, distant and contradictory it's almost as if she doesn't even know herself or her own feelings at times and sadly I can relate to that. (I love this movie so damn much)
1:22:14 "the moon" and "I like you" sounds the same in Japanese.. "Tsuki" and "suki" (short for "daisuki)
It was fun watching you guys react to the movie and discuss the story and relate to it. The manga where this is adapted is longer than what they could put in the movie (like how Nishimiya's mom apparently didn't think the bullying was that bad until later with the hearing aids where she finally let her move school). There was a bit more to the ending of the story there too so if you're wondering what that is, you could check out the manga.
On the ferris wheel Shoko says "I don't hate you , I hate myself"
The ending of this movie left me wanting sooo much more, so I read the manga - there is a bit more there... but it still wasn't enough... so I went and finally decided to draw my head canon ending... Ishida and Nishimiya getting married under cherry trees in full blossom... but yeah, easily one of the best stories ever... it's so real.
I watched this in the worst time of covid. this is the one movie that brought back any feelings duirng the numbness of covid. The message from this movie is absolutely the strongest and most compelling of any movie I have ever seen
Nice! Glad you checked out this masterpiece!
Btw, I implore you to watch Code Geass (and then Code Geass R2)... I don't know if any series ties up loose ends and 'completes the circle' quite as perfectly as that. It's one of the all-time greats, it kinda has absolutely everything (good)... and it somehow has some similar vibes as Death Note in places.
No matter how many Movies I watch 'A Silent Voice' is pinnacle of story weather Live action or Anime series/movies..
I watched this movie when i was around the age of the characters when they were in middle school and i cried so many times when watching it but when getting my mom to watch it she never caught on to any on the undertones which i never realised when i was sat watching it with her
This movie has to be one of my favourite movies the arty style is beautiful and so is the story
Great video and great reaction.
1:21:52 I love how Saraha is drawn and always look like he has some kind of ulterior motive, but he legit just looks like that 😂
Or the rwd headed guy I mean
There are times when I'm not the biggest fan of your reactions, specially when the culture shock is too big or it's themes are morally divisive (*cough* Mushoku Tensei *cough*) but when it comes to psychological anime like A Silent Voice, there's pretty much nobody who can match the level of discussion you two have. This is my 3rd time watching the movie and it feels like a lot of things I just learned for the first time after this watch because you guys brought it up. You guys tried as much as you could to try to understand all perspectives while also realizing that it's told mostly from the perspective of a kid. So you weren't quick to judge Shoko's mother. Best reaction I've seen of A Silent Voice. Thank you guys so much.
Something that I haven't noticed anyone mention is that when Ishida is sitting in the classroom at around 40:20, he might be reading people's lips, since he's been studying sign language.
Also, her notebook is important to her (53:46) because it's basically the only form of communication she has with people that don't speak sign language.
And this is happening all around the world My favorite of all time Silent Voice
love the stargirl mention, that book was so so dear to me growing up (and still is!)
Instant tears reading it
I wish there were more of this show, it's really good. The mangaka did another manga called "to your eternity" which is sad too, he's truly a good writer
In the English dubbed Maria’s dad is in the military and she said that’s her son In law he’s home from deployment which makes me think Maria is half Japanese and half American because her dad looks like and African American or Jamaican American.
I like how you're guys facial expressions match.
Yes they are back!
Another recomendation for manga this movie is based on, it has more of characters background. One of interesting chapter, that was left out, is about Nishimiya mother.
your add sections are really funny.
It's amazing how much of a difference one mistranslated line leads to. I don't think the version you watched had good subtitles. When I watched it, it was correctly translated and a lot of your confusion in the second half of the movie definitely stemmed from you missing that Nishimiya hated herself and that everyone knew she hated herself. There were many other weirdly translated lines.
I'm here baby 🥳🥳❤️
Fantastic reaction, and I watched like 30 of this movie. Well maybe except Ueno but you got it in the end.
So cute the story of your childhood. What a cute couple
Really glad that you guys reacted to this masterpiece, but it seems like you got the short end of the stick for the subtitles as there were many mistranslations, different or missing nuances and sometimes straight up wrong sentences with the complete different meaning in the movie. But I'm glad you still enjoyed the film!
Man, every damn time I watch someone react to the movie, Kensuke Ushio's soundtrack always gets me, man. The pure emotion he's able to invoke just through one or two instruments feels illegal. I simply cannot wait for what he cooks up in the Chainsaw Man Movie.
Welp guess I'm crying again
when he fell saving her he fell in the river below, which sort of broke the fall but he still hit the bottom due to the water being to shallow for the height he fell from. her arm is also injured and in a cast because he caught her on that arm while she was falling which would of hurt it.
This film is interesting to me as someone who was physically bullied for about 2 years in primary school at age 4 till about 6, and then socially for maybe another year or 2, but now the main lad who beat me up almost daily is a mate of mine, we've drank together and go to the same boxing gym, I have no issue with him at all. So this film was very interesting as it reminded me of certain real life things, especially the main girl's perspective.
On an interesting side note, the impact of early age bullying is fascinating to me.
Not Ishida putting on that forced fake happiness before the "Shouko incident" and you guys calling him so much more likeable like that 🙈🤣🤣 Great reaction thou! Really timeless movie.
Es increible que despues de ver la pelicula muchas veces me siga gustando tanto y hacerme sentir de muchas maneras, excelente reaccion y muy buenos puntos a destacar mientras la vi
Yes, I was looking for a reason to cry today
The almost immediate callout on how Ishida never actually apologised was really good
Normally I don't comment on a video before I watched it completely, but apparently you had a pretty bad translation. Around 1:30:00, in your 'from the future' part you said you were told Ueno says 'I hate myself', that is not correct, not sure if you misspoke or were misinformed. Nishimiya says that. Uneo's part is fine, but what Nishimiya says is cut short. She says 'I don't hate you, I hate myself!'
Also, consequently, after they finish the video in your version Ishida says 'I want her to like Nishimiya'. That is wrong as well. He says 'I want Nishimiya to like herself again'.
Kinda messed up the whole scene...
Even as something as small as the "I thought you were going to kill yourself" when it should be "You thought you would kill yourself" completely changes that scene from "Ishida got hurt because of your selfish actions" to basically "I want you to die." It doesn't change the whole calling her a cancer/disease, but it gives you the idea that she cares about Ishida.
After watching the movie and other reaction channels, I've noticed that the movie shows a lot of times where either Nishimiya and/or Ishida tried to reach each other. for example, the day when Nishimiya's notebook fell into the river the first time she tried to read it, Ishida tried to catch her after she jumped into the river but he failed to do so. Also when Nishimiya and Ishida spend a day together after the fight with their group, Ishida slips and falls (1:42:46) and Nishimiya tries to catch him but she also fails to do so.
It is interesting because the movie shows close-ups of how they reached out to each other. I think those are some crucial details on how their relationship develops as they portray how they try to understand and 'reach' each other throughout the story.
In the end, when Nishimiya tries to jump off the ledge during the fireworks festival, only then does Ishida manage to 'catch' her in time, saving her but sadly sacrifices himself. For me, from that moment, they finally understood each other. They finally forgive each other, and most importantly, they forgive themselves. They no longer blame themselves for everything that happens to them.
1:31:06 Unless I am mistaken about the specific part that you are referring to, I noticed no such mistranslation nor anything of the like, and I got like 8 years of japanese studies under my belt.
1:52:27 Here both interpretations are wrong. She IS being a bitch, but she wasn't actively telling her to kill herself before the accident, now is saying "ofc you would try to when you are a nuisance", and she is doing it because she likes Ishida and blames Shoko for what befall him due to their bullying. She wasnt mad because she tried to kill herself, she is mad because Ishida almost died for her.
"I'd rather granny go than.."
It's just funny 😂
When they did the face reveal in season 2 of Kaguya sama with Ishigami's arc, I immediately thought of this movie when that happened xD
You guys should react to 'erased' in case you already haven't seen it
LETS FRICKING GOOO
This and Violet Evergarden is like soul food. It punches your gut in a good way. It opens your emotions. It's both sad but also heartwarming. There's something about these shows that hits different.
Can’t wait for the your name and solo leveling reactions
A interesting fact is that the movie title should be “the shape of the voice”giving us a idea of how we can communicate in different ways, as in the first part we see how the teacher touch Shouko’s shoulder to tell her she can introduce herself to the class, writing in the book as Shouko did or with gestures as she later tried, all this ways were rejected by Shouya, 1.he didn’t touch her shoulder when he wanted her to look to him, he threw little stones, 2. He threw her notebook and 3. He threw her sand when she used the gestures to said “become friends” and answer with violence. This movie is a 10/10 has a lot of symbolisms that are beautiful,
Shoko not taking the notebook back when Shouya throw it, means she lost the hope of being part of the class, at her introduction to the class, she wrote that the notebook was her “voice”, once she didn’t took it, was a way to show us that she gave up and stop communicating with the world. But when in the bridge the notebook felt She immediately jump for it, cause she wanted to communicate again and is shouya who found it and gave it to her, like saying that shouya is returning her voice….
Shouya using gestures when they reunited is a way to recover one of the amount shapes that voice has, later they recover another when Shouko use the phone to talk to Shouya(as a substitute of the notebook) and the final is the touch when he grab her in the balcony and thought how he didn’t really understand Shouko but finally after waking up and recovering all the different shapes of voice they understand each other….
Sorry this movie is too much…