James 2:18 “Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.” Romans 11:6 “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”
“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,” Romans 16:25 KJV
I'd like to belong to a religion that is based on the theology that would have evolved had Jesus been considered a prophet rather than a sacrifice. Unfortunately, there is no such religion on this planet.
I know many grace believers and never heard one person ever say we should not live a holy life after we are saved. That is a strawman argument. Speak truth if you are trying to explain someone's belief you do not agree with.
The brother just blends all the words together, without distinction. What a mess. Contrary to what the brother says, "Kingdom of heaven" is never mentioned in the OT (about 21:30). They only spoke and wrote about "the kingdom." It is not until Jesus shows up, preaching about the kingdom of heaven (KoH) AND the kingdom of God (KoG) that the kingdoms are identified. "But," the brother would say, "there is only ONE kingdom." Really? First, what verse says that? Second, what does the very first verse in the Bible tell us? That in the beginning God created the heaven AND the earth. Two different realms. In fact, so different that one needs a different body to go to that celestial realm. (I Cor 15) When one begins to properly divide, unlike this brother, instead of making a big mess by trying to merge it all together, exactly like this brother, one begins to see that Israel is going to reconcile the earth back to God, while today's church is going to reconcile the heaven back to God. Two different people, two different missions, two different destinations. It's so simple if one just reads and believes the Book! Grace. : )
@hereticus40 your extremely messy interpretation definitely demands scriptures for backup. Your comment is absolutely ridiculous, along with your theology. Who, may I ask, are your teachers?
Contrary to what the brother (of the second part) says, 'Contrary to what the brother says, "Kingdom of heaven" is never mentioned in the OT (about 21: 30). They only spoke and wrote about "the kingdom." ' ... he (Steve, the brother of rhe first part) did not say that. I watched it twice and read the transcript.
What is this with earthly realms and heavenly realms and Israel and the church being in different kingdoms composed of different people and having different missions? Are there also a multiplicity of kings? I'm like @carenwillaby8672 I need to see some scriptural support for this.
@@carenwillaby8672 Thank you for your comment, Caren. For what specifically do you require scripture? If you could narrow it down a bit, I'll be glad to dig in and show you what the Bible says. Thanks. : )
Rom 8:1-5 ISV 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in union with the Messiah Jesus. 2 For the Spirit’s law of life in the Messiah Jesus has set me free from the Law of sin and death. 3 For what the Law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did. By sending his own Son in the form of humanity, he condemned sin by being incarnate, 4 so that the righteous requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not live according to human nature but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. The great white throne judgement was 2000years ago
@@warnerchandler9826 Rev 20:11 ISV Then I saw a large, white throne and the one who was sitting on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and no place was found for them. Who are the heavens and earth that fled from his presence?
@@petergouvignon8048I thought this was a comment section. Has it degenerated into a question section? You answer my question with another question, as if you don't care if I (or anyone else) understands your comment.
@@warnerchandler9826 you could have said heveavns and earth were Israel Deu 31:30 ISV So Moses spoke the words of this song-to the very end-in front of the entire assembly of Israel. Deu 32:1 ISV Hear, heavens, and I will speak! Listen, earth, to the words of my mouth! God was talking to Israel Mat 5:18 ISV because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished. The old covenant law is gone Because everything has been accomplished the planet is still the same The book of Revelation is a judgement on those Jews Go to the song of Moses it is about their end Deu 32:20-21 ISV 20 So he said: “Let me hide my face from them. I will observe what their end will be, because they are a perverted generation, children within whom there is no loyalty. 21 They provoked me to jealousy over non-gods, and to be angry over their vanity. Now I’ll provoke them to jealousy over a non-people; and over a foolish nation I’ll provoke them to anger. Who are the non people?
Im 50 minutes into this sermon about "what is the gospel" and not a single word about Jesus death, shed blood, or resurection, or forgiveness of sins WOW!. he says the gospel is our following jesus as king and doing this will get us into the kingdom? and this guy has taught the bible for 50 years? the GOSPEL is the death burial and resurrection of christ and his shed blood that forgives our sins and gets us into the kingdom, when we believe in christ and trust his shed blood to forgive our sins and to impute CHRISTS Rightousness to our account we become children of God throw faith. read John 3:15, 3:16, 3:18, 1st john 5:1, etc, etc. . when we believe on christ alone and HIS faithfulness to save and forgive our sins we become christians. steve has created his own gospel through incorporating a few ideas from the old covenant and totally ignoring john, 1st john, galations, romans, corinthians and most of the new testiment. .
Certainly Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection for our forgiveness justification, and salvation is good news. But Jesus Himself preached the gospel of the kingdom before any of these things had happened and could be talked about (Matt 4:23, Matt 9:35, Mark 1:14, Mark 10:29, Luke 7:22). Jesus’ good news is living according to kingdom principles (all based on love) with Him as our LORD - first as pilgrims in this world, then in the new Jerusalem. “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” Gaining entry into the kingdom is good news because the kingdom itself is so good/such good news. This is my take on it; Steve doesn’t know me from … Eve. I just get where he’s coming from. Thanks for reading, and much love!
Thank you brother Steve! Be blessed!
Such an important message! May God bless His faithful servant.
TRUTH. I Hear Truth. Bang Up Job Brother Steve. KEEP USING YOUR SWORD!
James 2:18
“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.” Romans 11:6
“And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”
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“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,”
Romans 16:25 KJV
Very good❤
I'd like to belong to a religion that is based on the theology that would have evolved had Jesus been considered a prophet rather than a sacrifice. Unfortunately, there is no such religion on this planet.
I know many grace believers and never heard one person ever say we should not live a holy life after we are saved. That is a strawman argument. Speak truth if you are trying to explain someone's belief you do not agree with.
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The brother just blends all the words together, without distinction. What a mess.
Contrary to what the brother says, "Kingdom of heaven" is never mentioned in the OT (about 21:30). They only spoke and wrote about "the kingdom."
It is not until Jesus shows up, preaching about the kingdom of heaven (KoH) AND the kingdom of God (KoG) that the kingdoms are identified.
"But," the brother would say, "there is only ONE kingdom."
Really? First, what verse says that?
Second, what does the very first verse in the Bible tell us? That in the beginning God created the heaven AND the earth. Two different realms. In fact, so different that one needs a different body to go to that celestial realm. (I Cor 15)
When one begins to properly divide, unlike this brother, instead of making a big mess by trying to merge it all together, exactly like this brother, one begins to see that Israel is going to reconcile the earth back to God, while today's church is going to reconcile the heaven back to God. Two different people, two different missions, two different destinations.
It's so simple if one just reads and believes the Book!
Grace. : )
@hereticus40 your extremely messy interpretation definitely demands scriptures for backup. Your comment is absolutely ridiculous, along with your theology.
Who, may I ask, are your teachers?
Contrary to what the brother (of the second part) says,
'Contrary to what the brother says, "Kingdom of heaven" is never mentioned in the OT (about 21: 30). They only spoke and wrote about "the kingdom." '
... he (Steve, the brother of rhe first part) did not say that. I watched it twice and read the transcript.
What is this with earthly realms and heavenly realms and Israel and the church being in different kingdoms composed of different people and having different missions? Are there also a multiplicity of kings?
I'm like @carenwillaby8672 I need to see some scriptural support for this.
Eternity here on earth for His people…. the New Jerusalem/ His church…. the New Israel ( His people) The grafting in ….!!
@@carenwillaby8672 Thank you for your comment, Caren.
For what specifically do you require scripture? If you could narrow it down a bit, I'll be glad to dig in and show you what the Bible says.
Thanks. : )
Rom 8:1-5 ISV 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in union with the Messiah Jesus. 2 For the Spirit’s law of life in the Messiah Jesus has set me free from the Law of sin and death. 3 For what the Law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did. By sending his own Son in the form of humanity, he condemned sin by being incarnate, 4 so that the righteous requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not live according to human nature but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.
The great white throne judgement was 2000years ago
You posted a Bible passage then assert something about the great white throne judgment. Is there a connection? I don't see one.
@@warnerchandler9826 Rev 20:11 ISV Then I saw a large, white throne and the one who was sitting on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and no place was found for them.
Who are the heavens and earth that fled from his presence?
@@petergouvignon8048I thought this was a comment section. Has it degenerated into a question section? You answer my question with another question, as if you don't care if I (or anyone else) understands your comment.
@@warnerchandler9826 you could have said heveavns and earth were Israel
Deu 31:30 ISV So Moses spoke the words of this song-to the very end-in front of the entire assembly of Israel.
Deu 32:1 ISV Hear, heavens, and I will speak! Listen, earth, to the words of my mouth!
God was talking to Israel
Mat 5:18 ISV because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished.
The old covenant law is gone
Because everything has been accomplished the planet is still the same
The book of Revelation is a judgement on those Jews
Go to the song of Moses it is about their end
Deu 32:20-21 ISV 20 So he said: “Let me hide my face from them. I will observe what their end will be, because they are a perverted generation, children within whom there is no loyalty. 21 They provoked me to jealousy over non-gods, and to be angry over their vanity. Now I’ll provoke them to jealousy over a non-people; and over a foolish nation I’ll provoke them to anger.
Who are the non people?
Im 50 minutes into this sermon about "what is the gospel" and not a single word about Jesus death, shed blood, or resurection, or forgiveness of sins WOW!. he says the gospel is our following jesus as king and doing this will get us into the kingdom? and this guy has taught the bible for 50 years? the GOSPEL is the death burial and resurrection of christ and his shed blood that forgives our sins and gets us into the kingdom, when we believe in christ and trust his shed blood to forgive our sins and to impute CHRISTS Rightousness to our account we become children of God throw faith. read John 3:15, 3:16, 3:18, 1st john 5:1, etc, etc. . when we believe on christ alone and HIS faithfulness to save and forgive our sins we become christians. steve has created his own gospel through incorporating a few ideas from the old covenant and totally ignoring john, 1st john, galations, romans, corinthians and most of the new testiment. .
The secondary title does say refuting dispensationalism 🤷🏽♂️ so maybe it's more targeted as a refute than what you were expecting 🤷🏽♂️
I found Steve's explanation very helpful.
Certainly Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection for our forgiveness justification, and salvation is good news. But Jesus Himself preached the gospel of the kingdom before any of these things had happened and could be talked about (Matt 4:23, Matt 9:35, Mark 1:14, Mark 10:29, Luke 7:22). Jesus’ good news is living according to kingdom principles (all based on love) with Him as our LORD - first as pilgrims in this world, then in the new Jerusalem. “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” Gaining entry into the kingdom is good news because the kingdom itself is so good/such good news. This is my take on it; Steve doesn’t know me from … Eve. I just get where he’s coming from. Thanks for reading, and much love!
Should have kept listening, that was well covered in minute 51 and forward!!
You either listened to the lecture and failed to understand what steve was explaining, or you didn't listen to the lecture at all 🤷