Frank does a completely different solo (melody and rhythm wise) each time I find a version of this song. George Duke just follows like a master in improv as does the rest of the band. What a great musicians, what a genius music. Happy and sad, Zappa makes the world a better place.
@@MrBrungers she had a great band, but not such as this. Granted having Don Alias and Wayne Shorter on board was none too shabby, but she was deficient in the Fowler Brothers element.
@@MrBrungers three marvellous individuals. But not really a band. Jaco and Pat had some previous obviously but could you imagine them playing apostrophe? Singing apostrophe? Dancing apostrophe?
Discovered Zappa in 71... Simply the best, with the best musicians, enjoying their performance. I saw him 3 times at the Montreal forum... In the afternoon he would come on CHOM-FM talk to the people. Great guy. A genious. Made my life better. Thanks Frank...
This is the absurd musical equivalent of a Monty Python skit, on one level it amuses, confuses and then comforts with accessible humorous understanding, only later will most of us comprehend its true genius.
You can look at it that way forget the lyrics or listen to the greatness of the players and the collection of sound. Lyrics made it fun, while the talent and sound is so pristine.
@@nednewh8913 We are of the same mind. Obscured by my literary clumsiness lay a sincere compliment attempting to convey my deep respect for Zappa’s talent as both composer and librettist. His absurdist stylings are part of his charm, the tightness of his performances prove his prowess as a conductor under the most turbulent musical environments. I love him but think many overlook his skills because his compositions don’t fit neatly into any genre and the lyrical humour turns too many ears to this aspect of the music alone.
Real classic of Frank and his band. Sound track of my youth. So nice to see the tune up and realism of a live performance. So glad folk who were not even born then, can embrace his tunes on here. Enjoy, FZs music is/was and always will be the best! x
What a genius Zappa was and what a fantastic song, which I don't think I've ever seen performed live. BTW: my kids (who are teenagers) love this song and several others of his that are clean enough for me to play for them. Long live Zappa!
A couple months back I posted a negative comment about this. It was my first listen. But since then its most definitely grown on me. I actually like it now; having enjoyed a few different versions of it, including studio.
The best songs are the ones that take time. They will be there for the rest of your lives, as opposed to songs that you love the first time and forget or get sick of later.
My thoughts exactly. The lyrics of his songs were off putting at times, but the instrumental composition is on a whole other level in the best way possible.
Bing a young boy from the Montana, not knowing rock. I never hearing of Frank until I was stationed in England in the early 70's were I was introduced to The Mothers of Invention and Frank Zappa thru the music of the barracks. I saw him in London at the Hammersmith Odeon. Still ranks as one of the best shows of my all time list. Frank was a musical genus and a advocate for us all.
1:52 - Love this incarnation of the Mothers. I was always a huge fan of the "Zoot Allures" crowd with Patrick O'Hearn on the bass, but Tom Fowler was amazing - never got enough credit. Add Chester Thompson, Ruth Underwood, and the amazing George Duke, and I'm pretty sure that this was the exact sound Frank was searching for. Playing for Frank was like getting your music degree from Juilliard. The amount of talent that went into and came out of the Mothers of Invention should be the subject matter for a PhD in music theory.
I was in a band called Mighty Little , named for the pygmy pony ... Only once in the four years it was in existence did some punter come up and say ' Montana '
Got 2c some of his nyc Halloween tours 14st manhattan.1980.81...now?....im old saw many greats 14th st.nyc .ie Fillmore east...palladium ..academy if music..all same venue...the glory days...now??.im old
Brutal rehearsals.............git it right................still not right............git it right.................still not right. Okay........that's it, now you have to keep it. FZ
Indeed - Glickman rules the electric spade... Fck! What a brilliant solo. But then - The Roxy recordings have it all. Later on Glickman moved on and got a bit bored with live music, I think.
@@kimhansen8615 I'd agree Kim, however, Glickman's solo on Muffin Man from Bongo Fury may be my favorite live performance. Take care & stay well! Peace
Yep. In 2014, my wife and I were just walking from dinner in a section of Louisville, KY called NuLu. We came upon a street festival that, honestly had a sizable crowd of about 600 people. It was a big band of about 12 musicians kicking out the greatest funky sound. I looked and noticed one member. The drummer. It was Chester. I couldn't believe it. It was his "church" band, a group of great musicians from Maryland that toured and had a Christian theme. I was able to walk right up to the small stage and take some photos of him drumming. It was an amazing evening. The last time I'd seen him was 1983 when he was drumming with Genesis.
Seen him at the Tower Theatre in the late 80's early 90's. Phenomenal show. People who don't like his stuff are only listing to the lyrics, which I love due to the quirky-ness of it. But music wise, he was one of the best composers and arrangers in modern time.
Some people just don't get Zappa, maybe never will. Most musicians get it, though. And there's lots of people that do appreciate his innovative, unique brand of music. Think Prince and Zappa have a lot in common in some respects. Both defy genres, for one thing.
What a composer, conductor, and the quintessential band-leader. Wherever you dare to proceed, Mr Zappa I will follow. One question I’ve often wondered is what linked you up with a 15 y/o Shuggie Otis you tapped to lay the bass tracks down for Peaches en Regalia? Did Shuggie work with Zappa elsewhere on other material? I believe Shuggie’s father was a big band leader from the swing era and I can only fathom Frank took it all in and was very capable when it came to networking and connecting dots out there. (L.A. ?) thanks to anyone who can share any insight:
Zappa always sounds like performance art more than anything resembling real songwriting. Steely Dan in early '74 with Michael McDonald on keys and backing vocals and Jeff Porcaro as a second drummer played live music that you could actually remember when you left the building.
not to be rude but I would chalk that up to having a different kind of appreciation for music. zappa definitely tended to veer more avante-garde and the element of performance art is definitely there, but to say that it's more performance art than "real songwriting" just shows a lack of understanding of the songwriting part. Everything Frank performed with his band was first composed by him, every single part, then exhaustively practiced and rehearsed by the band (during which time frank was adding/removing/tweaking parts of the composition), there are sections for the band to solo but apart from that everything was extremely technical and complicated. his stuff isn't as accessible or conventional as steely dan which is why it was probably lost on you as it is with most people to be fair, just remember to a lot of people myself included, this IS the music that you actually remember vs. more conventional or accessible groups.
@@jaredcress4328 Thanks for the well-reasoned reply, Jared, and I'm glad Zappa had the fans he had. I know I'm biased because Steely Dan was for me in the '70s what The Beatles had been for me in the '60s -- the best songwriting duo on the planet. I thought Becker & Fagen did more that decade to raise the musical I.Q. of pop music fans than any of their contemporaries. Following the success of 1977's "Aja" album, Top-40 radio was actually playing jazz-fusion artists in regular rotation, and a song as sophisticated as "FM" climbed to #18 on the pop charts. We're a long way from those days now.
@@andyinoregon ditto for reply Andy, I totally get it, and apologies if I was dismissive in my earlier comment. even as a fan of zappa it can be definitely inaccessible at times so I totally get how it comes off as being more about performance art especially if you haven't wasted years digging into everything he's done like myself lmao. I myself haven't gotten as into steely Dan, but what I've heard is super cool and I definitely have to give credit where it's due, they definitely were more effective at popularizing fusion type stuff for sure. I am biased for obviously being a big zappa fan, but he's definitely very niche and can border on avant garde and dissonant in a lot of his stuff, which turns a lot of people off and makes him seem pretentious to casual listeners, which to be honest I totally get. it's quite challenging music at times, considering that he was inspired by composers like varese and Stravinsky it does make sense. But it's not as accessible as someone like steely Dan which I think worked well for them, they got a lot more radio play and brought fusion more into the mainstream. Bands like Steely Dan, weather report and yes I think were undeniably bigger commercial successes than zappa, but on the other hand that wasn't zappas interest anyways, really he was just a guy who was willing to spend every penny he made and every minute he was awake writing music and recording music, for himself. and if other people liked it too then great! but that wasn't his focus. Both very different approaches to music and both the right approach for their creative directions. That's what I love about music, there's no wrong way to appreciate it. it's an art that inspires dialogues like this one and invites interpretation and engagement on a variety of interpersonal levels. Anyways now I'm just rambling but I appreciate the conversation friend, have a great weekend!
@@funkempfang Yep, lucky to have seen Steely Dan headline at the U. of Toledo on Sunday April 21, 1974, playing all the best songs from their first 3 albums. But I give Zappa huge respect for his continuous touring. Steely Dan retreated to the studio for 19 years after a July 5th concert in Santa Monica, California.
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RIP Frank
We could use a guy like you right about now.
Love ya
Frank does a completely different solo (melody and rhythm wise) each time I find a version of this song. George Duke just follows like a master in improv as does the rest of the band. What a great musicians, what a genius music. Happy and sad, Zappa makes the world a better place.
One thing that always impressed me about Zappa was his speaking voice. Dude had some serious pipes.
His voice changed due to the incident in Switzerland where he was assaulted and thrown off stage.
Very nice voice
Very articulate
@@elizabethplant3807 in Britain actually
It gets no better than the Zack Glickman Band live.
💕 the Zach Glichman persona by Frank
No band had this many aces in it at one time
Joni Mitchell had such a band in 79
@@MrBrungers she had a great band, but not such as this. Granted having Don Alias and Wayne Shorter on board was none too shabby, but she was deficient in the Fowler Brothers element.
@@iangelling no no, she had pat metheny, Michael brecker and Jaco pastorious on board... you can't beat that
@@MrBrungers three marvellous individuals. But not really a band. Jaco and Pat had some previous obviously but could you imagine them playing apostrophe? Singing apostrophe? Dancing apostrophe?
@@MrBrungers It's not a competition. Music is not about that and never has been.
Discovered Zappa in 71... Simply the best, with the best musicians, enjoying their performance. I saw him 3 times at the Montreal forum... In the afternoon he would come on CHOM-FM talk to the people. Great guy. A genious. Made my life better. Thanks Frank...
Countless hours in dorm rooms listening to this record many years ago. They really pulled it off live. We knew all the lyrics.
This is the absurd musical equivalent of a Monty Python skit, on one level it amuses, confuses and then comforts with accessible humorous understanding, only later will most of us comprehend its true genius.
You can look at it that way forget the lyrics or listen to the greatness of the players and the collection of sound. Lyrics made it fun, while the talent and sound is so pristine.
@@nednewh8913 We are of the same mind. Obscured by my literary clumsiness lay a sincere compliment attempting to convey my deep respect for Zappa’s talent as both composer and librettist. His absurdist stylings are part of his charm, the tightness of his performances prove his prowess as a conductor under the most turbulent musical environments. I love him but think many overlook his skills because his compositions don’t fit neatly into any genre and the lyrical humour turns too many ears to this aspect of the music alone.
He was a genius, that's all.
Thats why we like it
@@orlandopockets6372 hahahah what the fuck are you talking about? Zappa despised religious freaks & republicans
Slammin' version of Montana right here folks.
BEST EVER
Yes sir it sure is
Zappa was the greatest
Monty was my Dad's nickname from our name Montanya, us 3 brothers are Zappa fans. 2 have seen him live in the early 70s. 🎸🥁
Saw him at the Armadillo back in the day with the same group doing this album-crazy awesome!!
You ever heard the tape of that show? It's one of the highest quality Zappa board tapes.
incredible, 2021 sound quality, 1973 video quality
Real classic of Frank and his band. Sound track of my youth. So nice to see the tune up and realism of a live performance. So glad folk who were not even born then, can embrace his tunes on here. Enjoy, FZs music is/was and always will be the best! x
What a genius Zappa was and what a fantastic song, which I don't think I've ever seen performed live. BTW: my kids (who are teenagers) love this song and several others of his that are clean enough for me to play for them. Long live Zappa!
Dwezil tours plenty.
You’re such a lucky father, mate. One day, maybe it will be my turn, but... A father can wish...
your children had the right education
A couple months back I posted a negative comment about this. It was my first listen. But since then its most definitely grown on me. I actually like it now; having enjoyed a few different versions of it, including studio.
The best songs are the ones that take time. They will be there for the rest of your lives, as opposed to songs that you love the first time and forget or get sick of later.
Please see past the Zappa humor and listen to the amazing music produced and yes have fun with it, he did . Frank 2021 could have really used you Sir.
My thoughts exactly. The lyrics of his songs were off putting at times, but the instrumental composition is on a whole other level in the best way possible.
I saw this band in 1973 when I was in High School. Amazing band, amazing show.
that year was my favorite lineup of theirs, what an amazing show that must have been
Beautiful Guitar There , ZACK GLICKMAN ! You GOTTA LOVE THIS MANS HUMOR ! LONG LIVE FRANK !
Frank dead!
What a band! Zappa never failed to impress musically.
Great how Zappa gets into that dark, groovy, mesmerizing solo and the reaction of the musicians to it: 5:31
"Just me & the Pigmy Pony" Probably my favorite Zappa song! Yep, and there's a LOT of music to pick a favorite from....
Another favorite line from the Dangerous Kitchen is " sometimes the milk can hurt you"
Bing a young boy from the Montana, not knowing rock. I never hearing of Frank until I was stationed in England in the early 70's were I was introduced to The Mothers of Invention and Frank Zappa thru the music of the barracks. I saw him in London at the Hammersmith Odeon. Still ranks as one of the best shows of my all time list. Frank was a musical genus and a advocate for us all.
Wonderful Music Thanks Franky.
I never heard the music of Frank Zappa before, now I see why.
Saw him at the University of Illinois Assembly Hall doing Illinois enema Bandit it was great the whole show
So much talent on one stage. And that's where Tom Fowler learned his chops. Great bassplayer.
1:52 - Love this incarnation of the Mothers. I was always a huge fan of the "Zoot Allures" crowd with Patrick O'Hearn on the bass, but Tom Fowler was amazing - never got enough credit. Add Chester Thompson, Ruth Underwood, and the amazing George Duke, and I'm pretty sure that this was the exact sound Frank was searching for. Playing for Frank was like getting your music degree from Juilliard. The amount of talent that went into and came out of the Mothers of Invention should be the subject matter for a PhD in music theory.
Thanks for that input, it brought up a few from the past.
Listening to this during a thunderstorm is awesome......................................
George Duke on keys in that iteration of the band ☺️
Frank Zappa the most intelligent man in music,who once said,"you only need two things to get by in life...attitude and reason!!!Works for me....☘
I have been to the top of the mountain - and there I witnessed the flossy bush
Frank Zappa , You will live on forever.......
Ah man, this is absolutely amazing !
Love this first time I heard it I was Moving to Wyoming part time and Montana part time. Arkansas didn’t have anything like it.
This may be his best guitar solo live performance imo
Oh wow what great concerts
Frank had. The best musicians
Dental floss in Montana was one of the best
Am I the only one that has to play this song any time I cross the Montana border?
Tom Fowler’s bass line.
And Ruth Underwood playing the melody in the interlude. Amazing.
It's much more audible in studio recording, but it carries the solo very well.
So wish Frank was still with us !!!!!!!
Frank will live on to everyone who pass it on, Frank rocks in 2021.!
Zappa vinyls about listened. Great music.
When your Zircon-encrusted tweezers glint in the moonlight….
Zak tuning up, is heaven 2 my ears
Zappa was a pioneer in so many ways!!!
Chester! Great start.
I was in a band called Mighty Little , named for the pygmy pony ... Only once in the four years it was in existence did some punter come up and say ' Montana '
Grew up listening to Billy the Mountain
Zach Glickman I have all your records
Based on the Roxy box set, this is Monday, 12/10/73, show one.
Got 2c some of his nyc Halloween tours 14st manhattan.1980.81...now?....im old saw many greats 14th st.nyc .ie
Fillmore east...palladium ..academy if music..all same venue...the glory days...now??.im old
My fave of Zappa
prob one of the best live performances of Montana. Also Zappa's solo was flawless
Well here we go.
Brutal rehearsals.............git it right................still not right............git it right.................still not right. Okay........that's it, now you have to keep it. FZ
& dont show up high on drugs
Zappa é o gênio da lâmpada. Mágico!!!
No costume changes,backup dancers,auto tune, or pre recorded auto
It's was music is all about. And we got along.
One of FZ's best works. Has it all; obtuse yet razor sharpe lyrics, wonderful musicianship, and a superb solo by Zach Glickman!
Indeed - Glickman rules the electric spade... Fck! What a brilliant solo. But then - The Roxy recordings have it all. Later on Glickman moved on and got a bit bored with live music, I think.
@@kimhansen8615 I'd agree Kim, however, Glickman's solo on Muffin Man from Bongo Fury may be my favorite live performance. Take care & stay well! Peace
Haven't heard this song since college. Only novelty songs have weirder lyrics than Zappa's music.
frank's lyrics are NEVER weird ... they're perfect and perfect is never weird ... (maybe THE DANGEROUS KITCHEN)
Absolute legend!!
Promise
I'll bring it to the house
I just love it when Frank counts in the band at 3:36
......stomp stomp stomp-stomp. haha.
Chester Thompson played with Zappa in the 70s then moved to Genesis
Yep. In 2014, my wife and I were just walking from dinner in a section of Louisville, KY called NuLu. We came upon a street festival that, honestly had a sizable crowd of about 600 people. It was a big band of about 12 musicians kicking out the greatest funky sound. I looked and noticed one member. The drummer. It was Chester. I couldn't believe it. It was his "church" band, a group of great musicians from Maryland that toured and had a Christian theme. I was able to walk right up to the small stage and take some photos of him drumming. It was an amazing evening. The last time I'd seen him was 1983 when he was drumming with Genesis.
The One And Only.
People were slender back then.
.....prior to the prevalence of high-fructose corn syrup.
Zappa was the best.
He would confuse and sooth
Great guitar and writing virtuoso
7:57 HAHAHAHA NICE FLOW OF TROMBONE MAN.
In The Future Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Alex, Holden, Amos, Starbuck, Apollo, and Adama will be cruisin' around jammin' to Zappa!
Seen him at the Tower Theatre in the late 80's early 90's. Phenomenal show. People who don't like his stuff are only listing to the lyrics, which I love due to the quirky-ness of it. But music wise, he was one of the best composers and arrangers in modern time.
Analog synths - wobbly!
What a band!
Zac’s got this power trio down
I was not into Zappa's . I listen . We all are different and that's what God wants. Let's enjoy who we come across. and say bless you.
On guitar tuning, social commentary, chain-smoking and world-class riffmeister… the late, great conductor and composer… Zack Glickman! 😎
Such rich, musicianship...some of the greatest musicians of all time, all in one place, thanks to Frank👍
R.I.P.🙏
07:57 The crazy fast vocal section, sung by Napoleon and George.
That terrible 60s-70s camera work. Great show.
Frank was a genious
Unbelievable.
Thank You Frank
RIP. APOSTROPHE,
SHEAR GENIUS
MISS ' N YOU
I love the having to tune his own guitar.
That shows his humility as a person, most dudes would be having their tech do it.
Excelso el maestro!!
Fucking Amazing.
Some people just don't get Zappa, maybe never will. Most musicians get it, though. And there's lots of people that do appreciate his innovative, unique brand of music. Think Prince and Zappa have a lot in common in some respects. Both defy genres, for one thing.
Very very true about Prince and Zappa
Lot of talent in the band
Frank worked so hard to get each show and record happening that he didn't want to botch any rendition
Let's all relax it. Let's our children listen just for a moment . And I believe all we can get along. Love AMERICA. That's way the flags FLy.
AWESOME
What a composer, conductor, and the quintessential band-leader. Wherever you dare to proceed, Mr Zappa I will follow. One question I’ve often wondered is what linked you up with a 15 y/o Shuggie Otis you tapped to lay the bass tracks down for Peaches en Regalia? Did Shuggie work with Zappa elsewhere on other material?
I believe Shuggie’s father was a big band leader from the swing era and I can only fathom Frank took it all in and was very capable when it came to networking and connecting dots out there. (L.A. ?) thanks to anyone who can share any insight:
LA BESTIA DE FZ !!!!
Holy shit Frank rules
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I have a pair of zircon encrusted tweezers🤗🤗🤗🤗
In a class of their own.
Zappa always sounds like performance art more than anything resembling real songwriting. Steely Dan in early '74 with Michael McDonald on keys and backing vocals and Jeff Porcaro as a second drummer played live music that you could actually remember when you left the building.
not to be rude but I would chalk that up to having a different kind of appreciation for music. zappa definitely tended to veer more avante-garde and the element of performance art is definitely there, but to say that it's more performance art than "real songwriting" just shows a lack of understanding of the songwriting part. Everything Frank performed with his band was first composed by him, every single part, then exhaustively practiced and rehearsed by the band (during which time frank was adding/removing/tweaking parts of the composition), there are sections for the band to solo but apart from that everything was extremely technical and complicated. his stuff isn't as accessible or conventional as steely dan which is why it was probably lost on you as it is with most people to be fair, just remember to a lot of people myself included, this IS the music that you actually remember vs. more conventional or accessible groups.
@@jaredcress4328 Thanks for the well-reasoned reply, Jared, and I'm glad Zappa had the fans he had. I know I'm biased because Steely Dan was for me in the '70s what The Beatles had been for me in the '60s -- the best songwriting duo on the planet. I thought Becker & Fagen did more that decade to raise the musical I.Q. of pop music fans than any of their contemporaries. Following the success of 1977's "Aja" album, Top-40 radio was actually playing jazz-fusion artists in regular rotation, and a song as sophisticated as "FM" climbed to #18 on the pop charts. We're a long way from those days now.
@@andyinoregon ditto for reply Andy, I totally get it, and apologies if I was dismissive in my earlier comment. even as a fan of zappa it can be definitely inaccessible at times so I totally get how it comes off as being more about performance art especially if you haven't wasted years digging into everything he's done like myself lmao. I myself haven't gotten as into steely Dan, but what I've heard is super cool and I definitely have to give credit where it's due, they definitely were more effective at popularizing fusion type stuff for sure. I am biased for obviously being a big zappa fan, but he's definitely very niche and can border on avant garde and dissonant in a lot of his stuff, which turns a lot of people off and makes him seem pretentious to casual listeners, which to be honest I totally get. it's quite challenging music at times, considering that he was inspired by composers like varese and Stravinsky it does make sense.
But it's not as accessible as someone like steely Dan which I think worked well for them, they got a lot more radio play and brought fusion more into the mainstream. Bands like Steely Dan, weather report and yes I think were undeniably bigger commercial successes than zappa, but on the other hand that wasn't zappas interest anyways, really he was just a guy who was willing to spend every penny he made and every minute he was awake writing music and recording music, for himself. and if other people liked it too then great! but that wasn't his focus. Both very different approaches to music and both the right approach for their creative directions. That's what I love about music, there's no wrong way to appreciate it. it's an art that inspires dialogues like this one and invites interpretation and engagement on a variety of interpersonal levels. Anyways now I'm just rambling but I appreciate the conversation friend, have a great weekend!
If you where really there I guess you where blown away and that´s exactly what you should..........
@@funkempfang Yep, lucky to have seen Steely Dan headline at the U. of Toledo on Sunday April 21, 1974, playing all the best songs from their first 3 albums. But I give Zappa huge respect for his continuous touring. Steely Dan retreated to the studio for 19 years after a July 5th concert in Santa Monica, California.
Love Frank!!!
🔥🔥🔥
Frank sounds like Bob Weir when he talks to the audience.
I think you mean to say Bobby sounds like frank 🤔
@@jeffvaillancourt1809 Perhaps
A really unsung guitar virtuoso
need more frank
Never got frank, till this. I get it now.