Regarding the frame issue. What people need to keep in mind is that Miguel Galuzzi used the original trellis frame from the then current Superbike 851 model. So, this new frame which is similar in design to the Panigale is only carrying on that tradition. And if it means that the bike is many Kgs lighter than the old version, you can't really argue with that.
How about getting a Monster+ and then adding the Termignoni racing silencers which are available as an accessory? Comes in at £13,960 so a few quid less than the SP. With it you get an additional 4% torque, 4% more hp, a 2 kg weight saving - and MUCH better sound. Do the Stylemas and Ohlins make that much difference to a bike which is unlikely to greet many (if any) track days?
I wish the forks weren't gold. Fortunately, standard suspension is great in person the downshifts on the Termignoni are great. Ducati needs to address pricing the sp cost the same as a standard monster with the exhaust. Lower the price on the exhaust option.
Really enjoyed that Rob - great looking bike which I'm looking forward to having a go on (I loved the "standard" Monster)...love these more informal reviews you do, to me much more engaging than the journo style stuff....nice work as ever!
Nice bike. Wasn’t sure when they first changed away from the trellis frame but it’s grown on me since. We’re genuinely so spoiled for choice nowadays. Like the blog format too. Cheers
Looks aside I have the Streetfighter v2. It’s amazing, the performance is more than enough for me. I just rode the monster SP. it’s genuinely more fun to ride on tight b roads, and around town. I giggled the entire ride on that monster, where I pucker on the SFV2. The V2 looks incredible though. The monster looks like new age lawn mower.
Great review as usual! 👍🏻 Once they got rid of the trellis frame I lost interest. The 2023 may be lighter and more efficient, but the last Monster 1200 S looked SO much better. Bought an 2022 Scrambler 1100 Tribute Pro instead of the new Monster and now trading in my HD Road King Special for the new Diavel v4. Best of both worlds! Cheers!😁
Fun fact , I was never in the monster because of the tralis frame , don’t know what I really didn’t like on it . This monster , I just love it ! Also bought one but I have to w8 for next week til I get it .
@MOTOBOBVLOGS Its a nice bike honestly, but its not what I think of, when I think Ducati Monster....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I certainly don't enjoy the look as much as the original (Trellis Frame) Monster, wish the headlight looked more like the Ducati Streetfighter V4. The distorted round headlight doesn't do it or me... NEEDS A BELLY PAN - The underside of the bike could benefit from being made more chunky looks like its missing something.
Nice ride. I love Ducati's, but have moved on from the Monster - the engine is just a bit too much of a shaker compared to the Panigale V2 engine. Way back in the 80's I thought this engine was hot stuff, but now it has unfortunately become an anachorism in the world of modern sporty twins. The KTM 890 makes this bike seem like it comes from the last century.
Same engine in my Multi V2S, had a lot of twins and I think it’s smooth, brilliant engine, it’s nothing like the 80s air cooled engines…I should know I raced them. Power and torque wise it’s fine for road riding, you can use all the performance.
I love the look and compact nature of both the new Monster and SP. But the 20% premium you have to pay for the red paint and the name on the tank turns me off. I guess Ducati have to fund their huge MotoGP and SBK projects somehow.
Lost the trellis frame and has a goofy headlight...kinda like the Gladius. Nice tank and seat and components. Couldn't care less about rider modes, traction control or quick shifter.
@@xorbe2 MT09SP has more premium parts than the 937 monster plus. Upto about 70mph they where similar but accelerating above this in same gear the MT blew the monster away. I owned both at the same time before selling the monster.
@@xorbe2 MT09SP has more premium parts than the 937 monster plus. Upto about 70mph they where similar but accelerating above this in same gear the MT blew the monster away. I owned both at the same time before selling the monster.
looks vile, like an old Kawasaki ER5 direct access learning bike, Monsters have never been attractive but I guess its fair to say they have their own unique look. The Termignoni's look out of place and almost thrown on with no aesthetical thought process. I love Ducatti, probably older models I confess but as you said " the street fighter for the money" any day of the week. great channel, as always.
Regarding the frame issue. What people need to keep in mind is that Miguel Galuzzi used the original trellis frame from the then current Superbike 851 model. So, this new frame which is similar in design to the Panigale is only carrying on that tradition. And if it means that the bike is many Kgs lighter than the old version, you can't really argue with that.
How about getting a Monster+ and then adding the Termignoni racing silencers which are available as an accessory? Comes in at £13,960 so a few quid less than the SP. With it you get an additional 4% torque, 4% more hp, a 2 kg weight saving - and MUCH better sound. Do the Stylemas and Ohlins make that much difference to a bike which is unlikely to greet many (if any) track days?
That's exactly what i did!
I wish the forks weren't gold. Fortunately, standard suspension is great in person the downshifts on the Termignoni are great. Ducati needs to address pricing the sp cost the same as a standard monster with the exhaust. Lower the price on the exhaust option.
Two words that don’t go together…Ducati & pricing!
Really enjoyed that Rob - great looking bike which I'm looking forward to having a go on (I loved the "standard" Monster)...love these more informal reviews you do, to me much more engaging than the journo style stuff....nice work as ever!
Nice bike. Wasn’t sure when they first changed away from the trellis frame but it’s grown on me since. We’re genuinely so spoiled for choice nowadays. Like the blog format too. Cheers
Just got the SP, it's a really nice machine. Apparently this is a love it or hate it bike.
Very nice. How are you enjoying it? I'm very tempted for one myself.
Hi Rob, waiting for your take on a more real-world in-depth review of the new Hornet. (In addition to your first impressions launch review). 👍🙂
Looks aside I have the Streetfighter v2. It’s amazing, the performance is more than enough for me. I just rode the monster SP. it’s genuinely more fun to ride on tight b roads, and around town.
I giggled the entire ride on that monster, where I pucker on the SFV2. The V2 looks incredible though. The monster looks like new age lawn mower.
Great review as usual! 👍🏻
Once they got rid of the trellis frame I lost interest. The 2023 may be lighter and more efficient, but the last Monster 1200 S looked SO much better.
Bought an 2022 Scrambler 1100 Tribute Pro instead of the new Monster and now trading in my HD Road King Special for the new Diavel v4. Best of both worlds!
Cheers!😁
Fun fact , I was never in the monster because of the tralis frame , don’t know what I really didn’t like on it . This monster , I just love it ! Also bought one but I have to w8 for next week til I get it .
Does the front light melt still, or did they manage to fix it for it's small price tag?
Love the gold forks as it just looks as upmarket as it actually is. Thanks Bob.
Ohlins goodies are always delicious to look at.
@MOTOBOBVLOGS
Its a nice bike honestly, but its not what I think of, when I think Ducati Monster....¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I certainly don't enjoy the look as much as the original (Trellis Frame) Monster, wish the headlight looked more like the Ducati Streetfighter V4. The distorted round headlight doesn't do it or me...
NEEDS A BELLY PAN - The underside of the bike could benefit from being made more chunky looks like its missing something.
Nice ride. I love Ducati's, but have moved on from the Monster - the engine is just a bit too much of a shaker compared to the Panigale V2 engine. Way back in the 80's I thought this engine was hot stuff, but now it has unfortunately become an anachorism in the world of modern sporty twins. The KTM 890 makes this bike seem like it comes from the last century.
Same engine in my Multi V2S, had a lot of twins and I think it’s smooth, brilliant engine, it’s nothing like the 80s air cooled engines…I should know I raced them. Power and torque wise it’s fine for road riding, you can use all the performance.
I still prefer the previous design if the monster - sure there’s better performance now but I also liked the appeal of how it used to look like.
Great review!
Great review
I love the look and compact nature of both the new Monster and SP. But the 20% premium you have to pay for the red paint and the name on the tank turns me off. I guess Ducati have to fund their huge MotoGP and SBK projects somehow.
We’re you using insta 360? If so how did you record audio? Thank you
I don't like that dirty great big tag on the pipes. I'd get rid of that. Braided brake lines on the plus? Are they worthwhile having?
Could this be considered a first bike?
How is the Ducati heat issue with the SP ?
Lost the trellis frame and has a goofy headlight...kinda like the Gladius. Nice tank and seat and components. Couldn't care less about rider modes, traction control or quick shifter.
How did the hornet fair to this in terms of ease of ride, acceleration and fun factor?
i know some 125cc with better sound :/
this is the light beast, cooler than the coolest
It just needs another 15bhp. Can't match the 890r or MT09SP in torque and straight line power. I had the M + 937 so I know. I also had the MT09SP
SFV2 if you are shopping performance first.
@@xorbe2 but monster direct competition is 765rs, 890r, MT09SP all quicker
@@xorbe2 MT09SP has more premium parts than the 937 monster plus. Upto about 70mph they where similar but accelerating above this in same gear the MT blew the monster away. I owned both at the same time before selling the monster.
@@xorbe2 MT09SP has more premium parts than the 937 monster plus. Upto about 70mph they where similar but accelerating above this in same gear the MT blew the monster away. I owned both at the same time before selling the monster.
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Can’t rev it freely in neutral ? One more small step towards the Big Brother world.
They’re gonna restrict everything, every pleasure we have left…
Same for the new Street Triple - I was told it’s to get around the static noise tests in Austria 🤷♂️
Revving a motor high without a load is just asking for a blown engine. Duh.
👍🤪🇨🇦
Soft limiter, thanks Audi 😒
VW actually 🤷♂️
looks vile, like an old Kawasaki ER5 direct access learning bike, Monsters have never been attractive but I guess its fair to say they have their own unique look. The Termignoni's look out of place and almost thrown on with no aesthetical thought process. I love Ducatti, probably older models I confess but as you said " the street fighter for the money" any day of the week. great channel, as always.
worst bike on the world😄
C'mon