Porsche 911 GT3 vs Aston Martin V12 Vantage S on track

[@Anoon]

that porsche engine and shifting MY GOD. If I won the lottery this is my first car.

[@tarek307]

I have a V10 M6 now, my previous car was a Porsche 911S 997 Model, i must say , as much as i love my M6 there is nothing & mean NOTHING that will give me the satisfaction of the 911

[@ianrkav]

Was the 911 manual? Also, why did you change?

[@CoreQ]

ianrkav Let me tell you why since i had one. "THE REAR SEATS ! "

[@ianrkav]

Core Q Well that's one reason if youhave kids, but you can always keep a little sports job for yourself in addition to the family bus you know:-)

[@TravellerBrianN]

I did the opposite of you. I had a V8 650i and I traded it in for a 997 Turbo Cabriolet. You must be missing your P car a lot. I just don't feel like a 991 can thrill you as much as a 997 can.

[@thefleas]

The GT3 is in a league of its own

[@blackmondayy1]

4 seconds faster in dry condicions over just one lap ??!!!....they shoud have compared the Aston with the Porsche Cayman.

[@youngprankster94]

Porsche 911 GT3 all day everyday!!! (With a fire extinguisher tho)

[@An0beseGiraffe]

I love how people make fun of porsche for ONE of their cars catching fire but forget nearly all lambos and ferrari's catch fire

[@kara88bg]

Packed with character, in other words, well it's not nearly as good as Porsche's but we can't say that Porsche is that better because we're British and Aston is a British car.

[@raddestdoctor]

Haha spot on. All the British journalists talk like that whenever an Aston Martin is compared with anything.

[@Addictedtovinigar]

oh come on, what is wrong with him saying its packed with character, to a lot of people numbers don't matter as much as how a car feels and makes you smile. The Porsche is obviously a better can in almost every measurable aspect, but that doesn't mean it is more enjoyable. Although personally i would go for the Porsche.

[@QuickQuips]

Aaron C
Or if they're comparing anything against a Ferrari. Even a McLaren, which should have the homefield advantage, will somehow lack "passion".

[@kara88bg]

Nothing's wrong with him saying that, its just that British journalists can never admit that Germans or someone else made a car that is better. Only way that is possible for a British journalist to say that is if some British company like Lotus, Lola, McLaren or Cosworth was involved in building that car, I don't know if German journalists do that too because i don't speak German.

[@Addictedtovinigar]

kara88bg I see where you are coming from, i do see that with quite a few british journalists *cough* Steve sutcliffe *cough*, but not all. Im sure people from other countries do the same though. But i sometimes wonder if people are watching the same video as me, because to me he clearly thinks the 911 is better and says so, all he says is that the aston is enjoyable and the engine has character, he doesn't say that the Aston is better?

[@turboman1505]

Tonnes of Ferraris and Lamborghinis burst into flames every year, no one bats an eye. Two Porsches catch a fire and everyone loses their mind!

[@dny00001]

i know right ?! idiots....

[@TheMpofu]

Really think the GT3 looks soo much better

[@darksideofmind91]

Seems way nicer driving the GT3 than the Aston

[@Shift4g]

The Aston seems like a nicer drive. The Porsche seems more fun. Which is just Aston being an Aston, and Porsche being a Porsche. Same as it ever was.

[@al8161]

fantastic review
it's been one of the few times where you can actually see the driver batlling the car on the track
normally on these reviews you just see a couple of slides through slow corners, but oh my...
nice driving skills there

[@SoCalFreelance]

We've all been spoiled. The P1, 918, and LaFerrari make these cars seem downright pedestrian.

[@appelpower1]

If given the choice of which one to use on a track day, I'd blindly choose the Porsche. But given the choice of buying one? The Aston. Preferably the regular V12, or even the V8; the fewer spoilers, diffusers, inlets and what not more it has, the better the Vantage looks. It's an elegant design, and should not be ruined by putting flaps everywhere. Apart from that, the Aston is better looking, more spacious and better to live with every day.
This is a matter of taste, though; I've never been a 911 fan. I see them too often, they're not special enough for me.

[@cagriffin101]

Astons may look good, but they are stale. Porsche can get 470 hp out of a 3.8 liter 6cyl (that revs to 9,000 rpm), but Aston can only get 560 out of a 6 liter V12? And all astons look alike to me, i can't tell them apart anymore. Annnnnnnd, That same design has been around for at least a decade. Go fresh Aston Martin, you are getting left in the dust by Mclaren, Porsche, and Ferrari.

[@givemeajackson]

the 911 looked the same for the past 40 years...

[@cagriffin101]

givemeajackson The 911 has had the same shape for 40+ years, but it doesn't look the same. Nor does Porsche have several models that are exactly alike. Ferdinand Porsche said, "Change is easy. Improvement is far more difficult." The 911/Porsche proves itself and its strategy through sales, can't say the same for Aston Martin. Aston has the same old and rather weak V12, an ancient gearbox, a dated interior, quality control issues with stitching and materials, its not very light on it's feet despite being the smallest aston, it's much slower around a track than a car that has 100 less HP, and it's design, though good looking, is old...
I may be beating up on Aston Martin, but i really like them and want to see them be competitive. I wanna see them go toe to toe with ferrari and the F12, but they currently cannot get anywhere close.

[@kalelwilson8337]

givemeajackson Why mess with perfection?

[@pablooliveri2080]

Christopher Griffin SIN DUDAS PORSCHE EL MEJOR DEPORTIVO DE LA HISTORIA.EN CUANTO A SUS LINEAS,A TENIDO UNA EVOLUCIÓN MAS NO UNA REVOLUCIÓN EN SU ASPECTO.SIMPLEMENTE FANTÁSTICO.

[@coureurdebois]

ok, the V12 is so sexy... but that GT3 is just so amazing... so close love both of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@carlitoxb110]

Gt3 is just as beautiful as the aston, it only have two probelms 1 its automatic 2 i dont have money to buy it

[@Codyashi22]

The GT3 is hands down the milestone for track cars. No other car gets compared to such a variety of cars, and still manages to be the better car!

[@ph4tboy]

Not a surprise that the GT3 beat the Aston around a track. What was a surprise is that the difference in lap times narrowed in the wet. You would expect a V12 RWD car to have real trouble whereas the 911's RR layout would give much needed bonus traction over the rear wheels in the wet.

[@lewistaylor8262]

For such a track-honed car with a quicker gearbox, higher revs and over 200kgs lighter than a make which has essentially just been making fast luxury cars for...well, ever; I was expecting more than just 1.5 seconds quicker

[@aricblinder3410]

Don`t forget your oven gloves XD

[@Pogost1ck]

Very nice, talking us through the lap +1! Makes for an interesting watch.

[@respectfulremixer]

I was thinking that as well - impressive

[@florianhaffner3910]

The GT3 is a magnificent piece of engineering. And I love the timeless, sexy look!

[@usmanw01]

Really appreciate the detailed commentary through the flying laps... talk about walking and chewing gum at the same time.

[@wambastheralvesferreira4845]

GT3 991 is the benchmark!!!!

[@muhammadmsalaam9594]

911 GT3 has legendary hallmarks for a reason. I'm surprised new Nuremberg ribg times haven't been attempted with each updated iteration of this exotic on a cold track or moist warm conditions
Even this time of the year a time below original recorded data is absolutely possible

[@tepeke88]

Another trophy for the 911, best sports car...ever! Owen needs to do the porsche 918 against mclaren p1, would be epic!

[@IsiahHD]

French Racing Blue is the best color on the face of the Earth.

[@Cur8or88]

World rally blue. There, fixed that for you.

[@alabaa926]

also called baby blue.

[@shiond123]

Looks cheap, like an iPhone 5c.

[@IsiahHD]

Malcolm Herrera Nothing about Aston Martin is cheap.

[@yyyy2999]

That colour on the Aston Martin is amazing!

[@anotherone10]

In those conditions the Porsche looks super snappy in terms of oversteer, whereas the Aston looks like it slides much more progressively.

[@rogerpreece7762]

Fantastic review.
Thanks
Roger

[@etonthompson5175]

And THAT is why Porsche is the king. Who says stubbornness with regard to keeping the engine in the back is a bad thing?

[@BlackPenquinn]

Fun on the road has nothing to do with track times. I’ve owned a V12 Vantage. It’s not a track car. It makes road driving so much fun rewarding. Now my Lotus 211 was a track car and I’m sure more fun on track than the GT3. But not so much on the street.

[@svtman93]

Damn this guy is a beast of a driver... holy shit

[@xXOctan3Xx]

I'm slowly growing to be in love with Porsche...

[@dagda3000]

I was never a fan of 911's because of the looks. The proportions were just not right. The 997 was the first 911 I liked. And now - Porsche really nailed it with the 991 design. For the first time I must say that a 911 looks better than an Aston.

[@iantownsend5480]

For me I love both I'd have both in my dream garage, Aston better for long distances driving GT3 for a Sunday blasted but saying that you could easily make that the other way round both brilliant 2 totally different ways of making a sports car but equally fantastic

[@SmallBlogV8]

"Listen to that engine!" he says, talking over the engine pretty much the whole time...

[@vvysoc]

V8 vantage w/ manual and 991 gt3 are the two ultimate cars to have. V12 vantage just doesn't make sense since its a gt car and the price difference between v8 and v12 is staggering for a less attractive car in terms of value IMO.

[@lightbulbisbright]

But the sound.....

[@ianrkav]

I think you have a valid point there! Did you know that the DBS was faster around the Top Gear track than the V12 Vantage, and that the DBS did the Nurburgring in 8:02 and a 380 bhp Vantage did it in 8:03? So, I guess the 420 bhp Vantage would be quicker again. Still, the guy above has a point, "But the sound!:-)"

[@simonsuccessstepsys]

WOW! My God The PORSCHE beat the Aston easy in the wet & MASSACRED the Aston in the Dry! 4 Seconds quicker on that short track!! IMPRESSIVE!

[@golferchin76]

I overtook a Vantage GT4 in my '08 997 GT3 cup car during a mixed race. That car looked really unstable in corners. It had way too much body roll, and it's tail happy (but this I think was the driver)
By the way, what's up with the tachometer rotating counter clockwise!

[@TheCarxpert]

Usual none existent Porsche styling, could not live with those goggle eyes, only a Porsche geek could like te way this thing looks...
Aston Martin is gorgeous, a piece of art! V12 sounds wonderful and the interior is classy as always...

[@rousseau327]

I have friends who know very little, if anything, about cars; they're definitely not "Porsche geeks". Majority of them describe 911s as, and I quote, "pretty", "beautiful", "gorgeous". Nice try though.

[@alenblitva7592]

whats the use of having sports car in UK it always rain there

[@MrYoumitube]

I think it's time for Aston to use the best of British engineering and reduce the cylinders the engine & body weight. When you think a Porsche LMP1 LeMans is only using a 4cylinder with Hybrid and F1 is using a 1.6 v6 hybrid and both pinnacle of motor racing a V12 production track suited car seems like a dinosaur. Sound of v12 nice, but i prefer maximising motor engineering.

[@gianhet]

WTF dude, production cars need lots of safety and comfort features that weigh a lot.. F1 cars and rally cars etc only have to be a bit secure, but they are really way lighter than production cars, that's why they don't need big engines...

[@banddude121]

gianhet Race cars are safer than road cars and they are still lighter (more expensive though). They produce more power with less though. Nissan's 3 cylinder race engine makes more than half the Aston's power and it weighs 88 pounds. BTW, race cars are comfortable to be in. Uncomfortable driver= slow driver.

[@gianhet]

Porsche 911 You obiously don't know what you're talking about.. so F1 cars are super comfortable according to you ?
Anyway, race cars don't have all the luxury, the equipments like GPS, heated seats, bluetooth etc. They don't even have airbags, stability control or ABS, or any technology except for racing purposes.
All they have is an engine, two seats, a super light body, a cage to protect the driver, big wheels with fat tires (of is it tyres, I'm not sure), and that's about it, no comfort, they're stripped out to only have the essentials, that's why they're very light.

[@d1gps15]

Doppelkupplung Xj220 can beat!

[@banddude121]

gianhet Yes, F1 cars are comfortable. Have you not heard of driver's falling asleep while they are in their garages in practice?
Road cars are heavy because they don't use composite or lightweight materials unless you're in a Koenigsegg which uses the same materials F1 uses. It is possible to have all of though things and still be lightweight. Koenigsegg has it. It is called the One:1.

[@FelixIsMyName]

That Aston is stunning

[@terrybigmango2434]

The Vantage has been in production since 2005. That's a long generation for a single model. Of course the current GT3 is faster. It was faster even in the previous generation.

[@Driver_88]

Why compare a super track focused car vs a GT car? cos the show is from the UK or?

[@bobby4500]

porsche ftw!

[@momaniz]

Porsche is simply ; unmatched

[@kaiwenli3432]

I am not a porsche fan. But Porsche is a way better car in this case. But the V12 Vantage S is not a track car, it should not be compared to each other. Its more comfy then the GT3, It is more practical, GT3 is hardcore. Its very very fast and track focused. Vantage Looks stunning, and its more focused on the luxury part. Either way, both great cars but I'll take the Vantage over beetle pls

[@dreray4077]

It is a track car, Track suspension, Race brakes, Stripped out, Competition tires, its a track car just as much as the GT3. No excuses.

[@kaiwenli3432]

Dre Ray really? Its just a V12 Vantage, nothing more! They are making a GT3 Version of the aston, and trust me, Aston is still has the comfort, try driving one. Btw, V12 Vantage is not stripped out, it has tires that most sports/GT car has, which I believe is Pzero. Carbon ceramic brakes does not mean they are racing brakes, and nobody really uses CCB in races, Either forbidden or they use Carbon/Carbon brakes.

[@jdmchriz]

Finally, someone pushed the 911 GT3 to its limits!

[@mertirm]

Peugeot RCZ record 1:13:40 and Aston's 1:15:70. Wet conditions

[@ninefourteensix]

I've been a Porsche fanatic for most of my life, but I've gotta say Astons are sexy as hell.

[@iantownsend5480]

It must be really difficult to all those people who have bought gt3's & they can't drive them been sent back to the factory due to the fire problem

[@lukearmitage1533]

If you want to be competitive you have to be the best at one thing you'd give Aston the looks but technically they have never competed.

[@ironcityblue]

GT3 is a vastly superior car

[@samlawts1193]

ironcityblue still have an aston tho

[@welshbrickie]

great review thanks

[@stefanom.4489]

I have a 997 cabriolet and the Vantage V8 spider, I drive in the circuit too and the Aston give me 10 times more fun than the Porsche. When I drive the Porsche it's like to drive a normal car :( when I drive the Aston I feel todrive a real unic sport car ;) imho

[@sanderde1350]

A GT3 is a totally different beast though...

[@gianhet]

IMO, Astons' design begin to look outdated, they should change it soon .

[@iantownsend5480]

He's got balls to drive these cars, with how wet it is

[@DaLeadBull]

Damn, the GT3 actually sounds better than the V12 Vantage too!

[@RacingEnigma]

DaLeadBull I agree its a better car in every way but definitely not the sound!!!

[@FIFAracer]

100hp more, still slower.

[@chadaz21]

heavier

[@dreray4077]

Wow, Apparently your one of those people who doesnt realize power doesnt equal faster...

[@r0dnee]

did you have a firetruck standing by

[@PS3PS3PS3PS3]

that only happened to 6 European 991 gt3 but all have been recalled and fixed out of the thousands they've sold.

[@mornadu]

Where are your Porsche Oven Gloves?

[@cutdepiefails6596]

Next time, turn on sport mode at least, you will see more improvements, in suspension, shifts, throttle, steering, you basically tested a v12v in normal mode.

[@jamesstanley7263]

+Cut de Pie Fails Everyones an expert... Look at the conditions you dunce, he probably didn't want a sharp throttle response. More benign controllable response = faster in the wet

[@cutdepiefails6596]

James Stanley That's a great point and I find my comment a bit stupid to begin with, but the v12v gearbox in normal is slow and when comparing with the lighting fast pdk it needs to be as fast as it can, plus the gt3 was all in 'sport' and it already as a sharp throttle, but on the other hand rws + less power.
Well doesn't matter, gt3 is faster anyways.

[@jamesstanley7263]

Correct, the best you can hope for in that vantage is having some fun!

[@stefanom.4489]

Put the Michelin SPORT CUP 2 on the Aston too next time to compare the two cars

[@Jack-oz8fs]

I just hope the GT3 doesn't catches on fire. Lol!

[@kraenk12]

yawn!

[@Francis-rs7zu]

there have been 2 fires out of 800 cars released so far. The loose bolt is being corrected - fairly easy fix.

[@canah1]

I really hate, timed laps in Europe... they seem so pointless considering how the tracks always seem to be hit by hurricanes.

[@fikes73]

Maybe some fuel in the Aston would put some weight on the rear. Love both these cars, cant go wrong with either.

[@respectfulremixer]

Concur

[@lauriewisenberg2152]

You guys didn't add the time it takes for the 911 to catch fire. Might have been a different outcome:/

[@jennyfromjapan]

@AnObeseGiraffe literally, one. i've never heard of another one catching fire before

[@sanderstreefkerk5323]

458 Speciale

[@jaromor8808]

No one expects Aston Martin to win a comparo.

[@iantownsend5480]

At least the Aston doesn't catch it's self on fire lol love the GT3 tho

[@futmut1000]

only 1,5sec difference?? im pretty sure the gt3 is way faster then that, and especially in wet conditions the balance of a car can make a huge difference.

[@jerusdc]

I love watching review videos but ..Why???.. do reviewers feel they need to speak during every bloody second of it! Would like to hear the car alone once and a while...

[@MDubPolePosition]

Couldnt agree more. Just shut up! Listen to that engine Mr Owen says in the GT3 and yacks incessantly over it. Just keep it buttoned occasionally PLEASE... Love these reviews but please please remember what the audience want to hear!!!! Other than that, great vid

[@cypis007]

Will it burn?

[@wambastheralvesferreira4845]

This test should be done again, the wet track parameters are different, even for purposes of comparison with the other cars tested. 991 Turbo S, GT-R, F-Type V8, Carrera 4S cabrio and coupe and R8 V8 S-tronic. The 991 GT3 surely will be the fastest car ever tested by you, but must be in the dry.

[@barozanul2]

hurry get the fire extinguisher

[@urwetdreamz]

4sec on dry pavement.? Thats a different world...

[@ralphsmallblock4367]

Wow I would love to have the gt3 pure exctasy

[@jimjimaco4217]

ESP OFF!!!HE HAS THE BALLS!!!

[@Neudezign]

Great video, I commend you for having the ability to articulate every detail, along every millimeter, during every second while driving those insanely beautiful monsters but... you got to learn to SHUT UP a little bit while you're in the car. There's several times when you would say "listen to that engine" and then you would just keep talking! Nice commentary, but just try to talk a little less while driving.

[@mrberry7950]

Uhm. You can buy 2 GT3's for the price of the Aston Martin. But I'd rather have a Mustang, F-250 and Navigator for the price of the GT3 : /

[@EmanuelePolimeni]

the conclusion is full of bullshit!! the porsche is clearly a better car, in every aspect and condition, the guy just can't say it because he's british! he shouldn't be allowed to test british sports car, he's not impartial.

[@EmanuelePolimeni]

shut up troll. I'm entitled of my opinion, just like he's entitled of his.

[@EmanuelePolimeni]

I never said he wasn't entitled to have an opinion, but my opinion is that his conclusion was full of bullshit.

[@trisbuckley409]

These tests are a bit ridiculous when they are done in the wet. Who drives their car hard on wet roads? Give us a test on a dry track please. The Aston is at a disadvantage in the wet because you can't put all the power down.

[@xxijoseaixx224]

Drag race would have been nice...

[@virtual_kamikase]

The aston martin is a beautiful car, but the gt3 is better, indeed....

[@CoreQ]

Nice video, good review. BUT
is this even a comparison. GT3 is more dedicated track day kind of car. IT's surely win all the performance test. Not the power, but the handling and the better lap time, much better lap time. don't get me wrong, Aston is definitely a outstanding car but not the handling and for the track

[@fundiver198]

But then what is the point of the V12 S Vantage? Its supposed to be the ultimate track focused Aston Martin, so the GT3 is a completely fair comparison for it. If you want something more focused on long distance cruising, thats what the DB9 and Vanquish are there for.

[@CoreQ]

fundiver198 The problem is ..I wouldn't stay in a Vanquish for a long distance cruising ....turbo will be a very good car to stay in

[@ph4tboy]

The GT3 is objectively the better car with better engineering, and especially embarassing it on the track despite half the cylinders and the engine in the "wrong" place. However, to the general population, it's just another of the other thousand Porsches driving around. I'd have the more special, more unique, rarer, more classical, more stylish, better sounding and more beautiful Aston. If supercar ownership was all about track performance everyone would be driving Radicals.

[@nysid2007]

GREAT GREAT GREAT REVIEW !!! THANK YOU .

[@ToxopIasmosis]

when aston get their amg engines then we can do a comparison....for now the gt3 must be put against the mercedes amg gt s

[@tony-xu9sx]

i am so getting the white one

[@hanswurst5416]

...but the Aston is great too...:)...Greetings from Germany

[@sonicstep]

Some support from Germany. That is saying something. Mind you, I recall that Aston's engine is made in Cologne. Much electrics will be Bosch and so on.

[@user-yo3kf9fl5d]

Porsche is the better car, give me the Aston please to go along with my V8VS!

[@alexli1994]

As good as the Porsche is on paper and in practicality, I'm not one to spend over 200k on a sports car to get an extremely well made VW. I want something that feels more special to drive on the motorway/interstate and the Aston gives that extra bit in terms of the "specialty" department over the Porsche.

[@blkhausjunc3218]

GT3 starts at $101k MSRP. Not sure where you got that 200k from.

[@blkhausjunc3218]

my mistake

[@qqq3426]

alex li Do you consider the bugatti a VW?

[@SenszR]

+alex li lmao you idiot how is it a VW?

[@AGC828]

Ummmm the Aston is a GT car as are all Aston's and not "sports cars". :) Not really a fair comparison IMHO.

[@lukaswildner8040]

and once again auto express Porsche fuel tank almost full but the Aston's low fuel warning at least don't put camera that we all can see that

[@luqmaanjoseph]

Better looks(in my opinion), smaller engine and yet smaller time! I have always loved Porsche and this still my favourite model.

[@sbsphire]

991 looks way better and performs way better

[@powersliding]

there as a time when it seems impossible for a naturally aspirated 3.8 car can beay a 6.0 V12 one.