I just realized something. If Purple Guy wasn't working for the company at the time of Follow Me, then getting springlocked and dying would be grounds for a lawsuit against the company. Even if he was just a security guard at that location, he wouldn't have signed the waiver to wear the springlock suit. It would still be the company's fault. So yeah, I could see how someone must've found him sometime later, told management, and the company decided to cover it up. And given the company's drastic measure of walling up all the safe rooms and then telling employees to never mention the safe rooms to anyone, I'm inclined to believe it was a coverup. And I do think the "simultaneous" springlock failures didn't necessarily result in death for those employees but I guess it doesn't matter. Like Phone Guy implies, you don't die instantly, but instead bleed out, which is what happened to Purple Guy. Safe to assume that you can survive if someone is there to get you out.
Which gives me a really funny image of Springtrap actually suing the company. He then shows up to court hearings, as the plaintiff, providing testimony, rotting suit and all but with a brand new purple tie because you have to dress just nice enough to that sort of thing.
Something I see nobody mention is that the phone dude saying "we found one, a real one!" and being so excited about it means they could not find any other animatronic. So if Follow Me happens before FNAF 1, where is the band? They're clearly not broken and we never see them after Follow Me, so where are they? Not to mention that we see their remains in the very atraction where Springtrap is the only animatronic, as if to say that he was found and the others weren't because they remained dismantled after the minigame. I really like the idea that Henry sealed off the room instead of Fazbear Entertainment, it explains why the animatronics were not repaired, the place was abandoned so nobody else found out or cared about it.
Wow, I should have totally used that as supporting evidence, you’re absolutely right. That call really does not make sense if Follow Me is pre FNAF 1. Good catch!
@@DeskFanMan87 Thanks, that's one of the main reasons I've never liked the idea of the minigame being pre-Fnaf one, that and the fact that it would be very redundant. Idk if this may be useful, but another detail that may be worth considering is that phone guy says "are being sealed at most locations." "Most", so it's possible the Fnaf 1 location safe room wasn't sealed until Henry or the ghosts trapped William inside. Or it could mean nothing, idk, but I wanted to give it a mention just in case.
I like the theory, but I think the Tales From The Pizzaplex already gave us an answer to how this "paradox" works. In the story "Pressure" you can see in the roleplay area that whoever takes the role of Springtrap has to find the safe room where William Afton's knife is located. There it's explained that that room can only be opened from the outside. This same explanation is seen in the fifth epilogue where a camouflaged door is seen in a wall that hides a back room of the Pizza Place, being the place to which The Mimic tries to attract teenagers to trick them.
Yeah, I’m realizing that now, @InfalliblePizza commented something similar. I do appreciate you calling out which epilogue it was, because I remembered Pressure but honestly forgot that detail in the epilogues. Maybe I’ll do a part 2 to follow up on this, I had a scrapped script that more relied on my second theory at the end, with the hidden door, so this fits real cleanly. I also try to explain Shadow Freddy, Shadow Bonnie, and Yenndo in that script so that’ll actually be really fun.
This could still fit with the theory of Henry being convicted for William’s crimes too. If the wall door is one-way like the other commenters have been saying, then even if William couldn’t open it from inside, Henry still could find the aftermath of follow me and find William back there and choose to leave him, or at least hear him back there.
Agreed, I’ve always liked the theory of Henry being convicted, it would explain where on earth he is and in the novels they even suspected him first, but the fact they eventually do narrow in on William and can’t make it stick has always make me hesitant to say I believe it. It not even just a novel thing, the fact that Afton changing his name carried over to the movie really makes me think that’s how it goes down in all the continuities, hence William being a night guard in FNAF 2.
@@DeskFanMan87 makes sense but it would be nice if Scott clarified that he didn’t know the difference between arrested and convicted when he wrote the FNAF 1 newspapers cause they directly state that someone was charged and convicted, at least for kidnapping, cause they can’t prove any murders happened with no bodies. Charging is to be formally accused, conviction happens after being found guilty. So *someone* was found guilty of at least kidnapping, via the suit and back room.
@@ScapeVEVOyep, I wish so too, but who knows, that may be the one retcon. I think one day we’ll have an answer, maybe another 10 years or something, but for now I just have a lot of fun speculating.
Good vid! I think Tales gives us a decent answer. “Sealing” the rooms means constructing a false wall, they never say they board up the room in the actual tapes. In Tales, they find a door behind the stage that is a pressure latch door, meaning it would open only on the outside. It also blends in with the rest of the wall, so its probably one of the “sealed” backrooms. The Follow Me mini game doesnt have sprites for doors, so I find it likely a door just locked behind William after being chased around. The “sealing” has already happened by that point. This loosely fits with the novels and movie too.
Okay, see now THIS is good, and lines up really well with my second mini theory at the end. I have read all the books, but for some reason never made that connection. I wrote a whole other script a long time ago that is basically this, and way more narrative driven (you can actually read most of it at 8:29 in the video, it has some notes and then the old script at the end if you’re at all curious)
I assume you mean the ghosts locked the door thanks to their connection with the building, like we see in the movie? rather than it just conveniently shutting on its own lol
Well done on the second video. For a second sealing, we have to remember Fazbear Entertainment are at their worst by the time of FNAF 1 as far as cover ups go. It's literally written into their contracts to only write up missing person's reports 30 days after they've cleared any of their blood from the building. Even if the building is mostly abandoned by the time of Follow Me, I would not put it past them to just replace the boards William used to get into the room, especially if they had any hope of actually selling the building. I assume the parts also were sold and auctioned off as the Frights crew only got the Foxy head recently.
ive been wondering about this for a whhiilee,, even got ryetoast to see my question on a stream and they straight up said "i dont know". so cool to see someone else try to figure it out.
That’s honestly why I wanted to make this video. This whole thing is something most theories look at, shrug, and move on. I don’t even come to a solid conclusion, I just wanted someone to acknowledge how weird it is and lay out all the pieces.
Another really good one! The energy you bring is so refreshing. It feels like you are talking with the audience instead of at ys or just reading straight off a script. It is great. Cannot wait for more!
Another good video, I definitely feel it's more likely Henry's the one to seal up William as he's one of the few people to have an account of the events directly after follow me Considering that the only other people are the faz frights crew who come in and take the empty shells
great video, i always thought the fnaf 3 phone calls and saferoom closing timeline was confusing, you explained perfectly why that is. when i clicked this video i knew i was a fan of you but i forgot that it was only your 2nd video haha.
I love how there's just board trying to solve the timeline in the back. Also, I do believe the only way to make sense of Follow Me is if it's pre-FNaF 1. As for the timeline of the FNaF 3 tapes, the there's nothing indicating the gap of time between the the last few unlike the first three which happens in 3 consecutive days. The first 3 tapes could happen pre-MCI, the 4th happening in 1985 after the MCI and the last tape happens some time later in-between FNaF 2 and FNaF 1. Follow Me could have happened years before FNaF 1, meaning the state of it could have been much different, which likely is the case since Phone Guy was alive while the room was sealed. Also, I realized recently that William couldn't have turned the animatronics into remnant since the spirits of the children are still out and remnant would have contained their souls. We can also see the parts of the animatronics in the blob from SB where's the parts of the animatronics are still on the floor when William dies. There's also the fact William never even dismantled Golden Freddy.
Glad you appreciate the board lol, I need to get it over to the new apartment still. As far as Follow Me, my thing is just the fact the animatronics get dismantled. I cannot justify it in my head placing that before FNAF 1, especially in the game where we see the shells of said dismantled animatronics. As for the blob I think it’s a good chance a lot of parts are replicas/FNAF AR parts. But maybe a lot more survived from the FNAF 3 fire than we thought, they do mention an auction at the end.
@@DeskFanMan87 The animatronics getting dismantled is a point worth noting but also keep in mind all the other animatronics are also dismantled despite not being done by William. It could be logical that the animatronics were repaired after Follow Me took place and then after the FNaF 1 location closed, they were scrapped as well. ALSO, if Follow Me took place after FNaF 1 closed for good, there would be no reason nor anyone to board up the safe room.
I…never actually considered your point about Henry trying to stop William in the novels great catch my dude 👏 Henry trapping William suddenly feels way more plausible especially if he also tried killing him in the movies (entom posted a theory that Henry is responsible for the burn damage on Spring Bonnie) FNAF 2 will likely be his introduction + we’ve still yet to learn anything about Fredbear’s…makes sense imo
I really do hope we get more of Henry in the films at some point, I think fitting Henry in this theory works but at the same time I can fit him anywhere and it works because we get so little characterization of him. If that does happen I will feel so validated honestly lol.
in "save them" even the toy animatronics are missing their buttons. it seems like a general limitation/style this particular game goes with. in fnaf 3, there seems to be a freddy depicted with two buttons (toy freddy) and a freddy with no buttons (classic freddy). they are featured in drawings (which are probably decades old). overall i cant find conclusive evidence right now to see what classic freddy design survived in fnaf 3. mby theres something else out there tho to check this point. otherwise i dont have too much to add, very thorough video, thank you!
there is this: static.wikia.nocookie.net/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/7/7c/SpringtrapCam02ANoLights.png/revision/latest?cb=20150307091744 picture of bonnie in fnaf 3. as you can see, he has no buttons on his chest, suggesting that this is the design from fnaf 1
oh my god dude. this has legitimately, been bothering me SINCE the game came OUT. and recognition for the storytelling in fnaf3?? hallelujah! and! not that the SL vid wasn't great too, but that little mini theory part was what stuck with me most, i was so curious about it and glad that was what tied this one together lol. i as well have always Wanted to believe it was henry (at the same time though, im so desperate for this man to have more involvement in the story that half the time i believe he was the fnaf3 guard lmao) but had no real solid evidence. this is great! im with you 100% here
I've got something really really cool, a theory that solves FNAF 1, explains gaps in the timeline, tells us more about Willy Afton, clarifies sometthings, and solves early installment weirdness. And more, it might even have answers about Phone Guy. You interested? I'd like to pitch it to someone
@@DeskFanMan87 There's two halves, the part I'm certain about and the more iffy stretch part. If it's in there cool, if not I hope you hear me out. Let me set the stage with a fact. FNAF 1's location is the ONLY time in the whole series where Guards being murdered at night by animatronics was a regular occurrence. It's easy to forget that as it was the first game in the series, but it's true. FNAF 2's location only ever had 3 guards. The first guy was William and he got out after a Week. Second guy was Jeremy who survived the Nightshift(but probably got his frontal lobe nibbled off on the following Dayshift), and the Third Guy was Fritz who is probably Micheal. There's also some notable revelations here I'll get back to in a minute. FNAF 3, one guard, probably Micheal(though some fringe theorists think it's Henry), they live. FNAF 4, no guards. FNAF SL...this one is actually kind of hard to say, FNAF 6, one guard, Micheal, dies but not because of animatronics. FNAF 2 also establishes via Phone Guy that this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened. Guard 1's reports were thought of as impossible and it's only during Jeremy's week they start to figure out a theory(the bare endoskeleton thing) and offer up some solutions. This tells us the original location that was open for a bit after the murders either didn't have nightguards(makes sense enough, no big crime, no need) or the Puppet hadn't gotten to them yet. It also tells us Guard fatalities are something they're actively trying to avoid. But in FNAF 1? There's a whole procedure for it. Body removed, property cleaned and bleached, carpets replaced, missing person report within 90 days. A institutional solution for it combined with Phone Guy's "Most people don't last this long" implies MANY guards at this location have come and perished before Micheal arrives in 92/93(doesn't matter, but TLDR 93 has never been proven. Matpat picked it because of the Aurora Chuck E Cheese incident, the tax data said it could be anywhere from 1991-1996, and the Faz Fact that referenced it was cut and might not be canon. But that would have the work week go from Tuesday to Monday which is stupid. Meanwhile in 1992 the November dates line up perfectly with the work week. Minor detail, worth mentioning though). This means that not only have a ton of guards died, but there's a procedure for it, meaning the company is both aware and doesn't care. But why? This isn't hugely profitable 2030s Fazbear entertainment sweeping a few missing kids and staff under the rug, this is 1990s floundering Fazbear. Why waste so much many dealing with dozens of dead guards...unless...gathering dead guards is the goal. Let me ask another question. Who is running the show in the 1990s? Henry is out the timeline from the mid 80s until right before FNAF 6, maybe he's hiding in guilt, heck, I personally buy the theory he was framed(explaining the newspaper clipping saying the suspect was convicted) and spent a couple decades in jail, starting on the FNAF 6 project right after getting out. But even if he was here, Henry would never allow any of this to happen. And I already explained above why the faceless corporate overlord types, or even Miss Afton if you wanna bring that up, wouldn't do this. The profit motive isn't there. The location is a crumbling mess and the cleanup procedure is massive and expensive. That only leaves our boy William Afton, who is alive at this point, was free as recently as 1987, and we have zero evidence he was charged for the DCI/SAVE THEM incident. William Afton was running the FNAF 1 location and funding the cleanups of stuffed, dead, guards. But why? Well, for years the fandom has talked of William doing remnant experiments, soul experiments, maybe even agony experiments. That's how we get the theory the original 5 souls may have ended up in Funtime Freddy and Ballora and eventually in Molten Freddy and The Blob. But would William really have stuck to the same handful of souls, especially as he seemingly didn't want to mess with his daughter? Why not get a larger sample size, recreate the suffering? But kids are too risky to go after, he's done that twice and gotten away by the skin of his teeth. People care about kids, but what about poor working class blokes? Transients? People no one would notice if they suddenly were to vanish. I'm of the belief the FNAF 1 location, Bear themed restaurant and all, is a honey pot. It's a trap. It would certainly explain things like the door design and power supply. Transients, Desperate people, poor workers down on their luck, read a newspaper ad, dead in a few days, stuffed and ready for testing. This theory predates the Movie, but the Movie absolutely backs it up with him encouraging people to take the job. The location may have closed in 92/93, but the FNAF 2 ending and Phone Guy lines suggest it may have opened up far sooner than that, within a year of the FNAF 2 location closing. Dozens of men could have died there before the place finally closed at 'years end' a few weeks after Micheals run. And seemingly it didn't work. Maybe because the suffering wasn't enough. Maybe these men lacked the hope to hold on that the kids did, drained by a terrible life prior. Or maybe it's simply because The Puppet had cottoned on and wasn't going to help bring anyone back. Not anymore.(We know they were at the FNAF 1 location, both from the timeline and the FNAF 2 cutscenes, yet we never see them. Curious). So eventually as the place shut down William decided to take a closer look at the originals. Break them up, study their bits, perhaps reuse them. What made them special? And it would explain why that original remnant kept being re-used, the circumstances were specific and it was so hard to get more. They were no longer needed as unintentional killers. And Sister Location? Which most people place next to FNAF 1 in the timeline(either before or after depends). While it's not as blatant, it's the only other location with HINTS of prior guard fatalities. Plus the two technitions. Curious then this is the one place we know was fully a William operation. That's the main theory. All above. FNAF 1 location is a trap to lure in guards to get stuffed and use for remnant experiments. It didn't work, so William eventually scrapped the animatronics to study directly after it closed. Ok, here's the bit of a stretch part. Phone Guy. The eternal enigma. Leading candidate to be the Purple Guy for over a year. We know he was innocent, and in hindsight it was kind of obvious from the start(The FNAF 2 phonecalls very clearly tell us it's the Dayshift Guard/Former Nightguars, and they aren't the same person as Phone Guy. Heck they trick Phone Guy). But he's definitely sketchy. He helps hide what's going on in the FNAF 2 location, covers up Springsuit fatalities, organizes the saferooms being sealed, and knows very well what's happening to all the guards at the FNAF 1 location. He's not a killer, but he is a diehard company loyalist who has been complicit in and helped cover up numerous crimes. Bit of a toadie. And we also have evidence William has blackmailed and threatened people more than once. He got the Funtime Designs past those execs who knew what they were for. SOMEONE was arrested in the 80s for the MCI and it clearly wasn't him. (Henry is the prime theory as it explains a bunch of other things, but back in the day a popular option was 'the guy in the foxy costume from Foxy Go Go' or 'One of the other bullies from Fnaf 4). This coo-coo banana pants theory is that Phone Guy was essentially strong-armed into being William's igor and right hand man in running the FNAF 1 location, handling the logistics of the new hires and managing the clean ups. Phone Guy is a toadie to start with(as shown above) and William could easily threaten to either frame him for the DCI/Save Them, or just leak all the audio of Phone Guy covering up various deaths on behalf of Fazbear over the years(probably edited to relieve William of any blame). The tapes were in the same room as Springbonnie, he has access to them. That would explain why Phone Guy, while not being THE killer, is clearly involved in so much nasty business. Toadie to William to the end, especially when being credibly threatened. It would also explain why in FNAF 1, despite towing the line and never fully telling you to 'leave and never come back' or something sensible like that, he does TRY to give subtle hints to either help you out or warn out without crossing the line. His previous deeds were very impersonal and detatched, he was the middleman, not the cause. Now he's directly involved like never before, he can't write off the blame in his mind anymore, "only following orders" is a lot harder when you're there in person and leading people to their deaths directly. (BTW, great title for a Phone Guy theory video. Only Following Orders). So he's trying desperately to get some warnings out in-between dismissing them and legal jargon and lying to you about the cause of the malfunction. This would also explain his fate. While Phone Guy had nominally been a guard since the place opened(as indicated by his FNAF 2 dialogue), it was obviously more of a training role, head guard, served only on paper in a lot of ways. He wasn't doing it weekly for all those years. But I'm guessing his disobediance and evidence of trying to sneak out warnings eventually came to Williams attention. Which combined with the fact all the Stuffed Guards were not working out in the experiments and William was probably getting angry...he sent Phone Guy to do things in person, and ensured he'd never come back. It was indeed his last week, just as promised.
@@kalkuttadrop6371 okay first off, I really like the Phone Guy interpretation here, that’s something that IF William was in charge, I would totally just accept as “hell yeah, canon.” I guess if ‘The Week Before’ ends up being about him we’ll have some more info. So excited for that book. The next thing is your idea of FNAF 1 essentially being an intended trap definitely lines up with the movie, and I like the idea, but for me I’ve always struggled with how William would at all be in any position of power over the restaurant, at least going by his real name. Obviously in the Silver Eyes he gets the “Prime Suspect” badge after the MCI, but can freely leave and changes his name. I think that it’s really weird that movie Afton also for some reason had to change his identity publicly, though we aren’t given the full picture in the film. In fact, I don’t think they ever actually say that Afton is still the owner in the movie, it’s definitely implied but to me they very intentionally left it vague. The only line I can think off the top of my head is,”the owner just can’t seem to let it go yet.” I think they’re leaving the door open for if they want to, they can put in a Henry or someone else to come in who technically owned the place but never went, similar to aunt Jen from Silver Eyes and Henry’s old house. Overall I really like your thought process on this, definitely a great read.
@@kalkuttadrop6371 also I wanted to add that you should totally make this into a video if you want! You don’t gotta do anything fancy (heck I record and edit on my phone) and I take a few weeks cus I like to have fun trying to do little animated sections. If you got more thoughts like this I’m sure more people will like to hear them😁
@@DeskFanMan87 We actually know for 100% Afton was running operations somewhere after MCI. Circus Baby's Pizza World's original opening had to happen AT LEAST after the MCI thanks to the 'unfortunate closing' detail(though I've seen it placed even later after FNAF 2 on occasion). And that was a public operation. Not to mention the rental scheme. I also want to point out that said location was ALSO a purpose built deathtrap, except with kids and with animatronics fine tuned for that purpose. So William absolutely can hold positions of power even after MCI. It's not clear if he used his real name when working at FNAF 2 the week before Jeremy, but he was never caught for that. Also, William being let go due to lack of evidence is a book thing. The games explicitly say 'convicted'. That one word means charged successfully in a court of law. So either this is the one retconn(which means you can't use that excuse for any other elements of my theory) or SOMEONE was framed. And Henry is MIA for decades...(not to mention even in the books several people privately suspected him and it contributed to his end). So he's held power after MCI, he's worked at Fazbear's after MCI, and he's built a purpose built death trap once before. Oh and William knows firsthand the old animatronics attack people dressed like guards. He was there in FNAF 2. In fact he was THE first person to get this info. So why not take advantage of that and bring in some people nobody would miss.
I don’t usually like and comment and all that, but you’ve got great stuff here and you should keep at it! I had this on in the background and I had no idea you were such a small channel.
I do believe there is merit to the theory that Fazbear Entertainment sealed the room again, since they really don't want anyone looking into those rooms at all, despite the place being clearly abandoned, established very well in those tapes. But, does it really matter *who* closed the saferoom again? What we should establish is that The Saferoom was, in fact, closed up by the moment the Fazbear's Fright people find him, so it was clearly closed again after the minigame happened, and the abandoned state of the building means that it must be after FNAF 1. But, by all means, the saferoom was sealed again. That is what is established, that after he died, the saferoom was closed again.
Excellent video! Your thought process and video layout is both succinct and lucid. Although I'm unable to pinpoint exactly why, I find your voice and style of narration really easy to listen to. Good luck with your next rabbit hole!
@@DeskFanMan87 Oh wow, I must be behind on phone mics then, it sounds great lol! I've read that out of the box settings for mics can be a little subpar and need tweaking, hope you get it working like you want it!
Personally I've always seen the events depicted in FNaF 3 to go as follows. Years ago when Fredbears was open they order the safe rooms to be sealed and hidden. This leaves the Spring Bonnie animatronic in their which had already been used to murder the kids at this point. Years pass and after 1987 Freddy's closes they reuse the old Fredbears location as the Freddy's we see in FNaF 1 with Spring Bonnie still hidden. FNaF 1 happens and the building is abandoned. Afton returns when it's rundown but before Phone Dude does and opens up the safe room and dismantled the animatronics, he does in the springlock suit as we see in the mini game. Later Phone Dude investigates that particular Freddy's location and finds the safe room already opened with Springtrap inside.
Sorry I think I meant the original Freddys, the one before 1987 that would've existed at the same time as Fredbears. It's hard for me to remember but I think my idea was that there was a lot of crossover between the two restaurants because they were being merged together, like the real life chuck e cheese and rockafire explosion.
You didn’t convince me that Follow Me can’t take place before FNAF 1 because of some key details from the FNAF 2 phone calls you didn’t mention. Phone guy mentions how “Someone used one of the suits. We had a spare in the back, a yellow one. Now none of them are acting right.” Meaning the spring lock suits were around during FNAF 2. This means the DCI got the safe rooms sealed and when Fazbear moved back into the FNAF 1 building they sealed the safe room with William inside.
I’m going to cover this in another video, but I believe that the suit used during the DCI was Golden Freddy, as William has used the suit before (example being silver eyes) I think him wearing the suit and doing more murders makes Shadow Freddy.
7:32 Small problem here: We DO see it being used in FNaF 2. Or rather, we hear it happen, thanks to Phone Guy's Night 6 phone call: "Someone used one of the suits... We had a spare one at the back, a YELLOW one, someone used it. Now none of them is acting right." Other than that, the video's pretty solid. EDIT: Ok, after reading some of the comments, I know that you believe that Golden Freddy was the suit that William used, but like... I dunno, I just think it's weird how that suit never collapsed in him due to the spirit inside it hating Afton, or how he'd be able to operate only using 4 fingers in it instead of Spring Bonnie's 5. I think it makes more sense that the suits were sealed _after_ FNaF 2, but _before_ FNaF 1 rather than just being sealed pre-FNaF 2.
It IS weird, agreed, but I thought it made sense. My opinion on it may have changed recently (depending on a video I’m working on) but my rationale was it created Shadow Freddy.
How do the phantoms factor into your theory? Perhaps that's the reason only chica is her Fnaf 1 design? Good video, lots to think about when fitting the franchise together.
The phantoms are….weird. I agree with most people that the guard in 3 is Mike, it would tie into if Fritz Smith is Mike. But I don’t tend to use the phantoms as strong evidence for that. Most of the phantoms have their parts in the building, so there’s an explanation there. Exemptions being Freddy and Foxy, but like I said I treat them as mostly interchangeable so it may just be a style thing because those versions are creeper with the phantom skin. I don’t think there’s much deep lore besides the game needed some more characters. It’s been expanded since with stories like ‘What We Found’ kinda explaining that Springtrap just being there brings the hallucinations out based on your past. I’d have to think about it more, honestly they’re very forgettable 😅
@@DeskFanMan87 I think you're short selling your own theory's potential for explaining things. You mentioned they found those pieces in the FNAF 1 location, right before they find Springtrap himself. If he spent 30 years trapped back there, his agony and remnant mixing with the pieces there, factoring in what you said about the withereds vs classic vs whatever... I just think the explanations fit together nicely, even if it wasn't originally intended. I think the phantoms being projections of remnant from the parts of the specific robots and the phantoms being projections from Springtrap both work, remnant is the left behind echoes of strong emotions and souls. It's all of those things, and Springtrap being able to wield the projections of remnant works because remnant manipulation is his entire work before he gets trapped. But that's not really about the vid. Like I said, good video. You might want to try moving your filming setup so the light source is in front of you, or a bright light and point it at a big white wall behind the camera while you film to get a soft fill light in the foreground.
@@blanktester ynow what, that does work really well, thank you! (Man it’s so cool to see someone else add on to your theory and it makes sense) if I ever do a full timeline on the original Scott era I’ll try to find a way to include this.
@@DeskFanMan87 if you do that, you should make sure to watch the video puppy did on remnant. It really clears up some of the weirdness with souls and stuff.
Springtrap was not to be accessed because of the springlock failure where fredbear bit a kid and was then scrapped. The remaining Springtrap waa just left there never to be touched
I disagree that the Bite of 83 was the spring lock failure that causes the suits to be decommissioned, mainly because I don’t think it was a spring lock failure. Fredbear was already in robot mode, so all locks would be in place already, there’s nothing to trip. But that’s my opinion.
@@DeskFanMan87 and that's valid. But there's no other instance we've been shown and since there's only 2 suits it means afton was the first case of someone being killed inside one
@@novustalks7525 I actually cover this in my sister location theory, dunno if I got the details right but I seriously think it ties into the suit we’re in during night 4.
Yep those are some of my notes and thought! Some of it’s just spitball ideas that I’m not convinced but thought it was worth looking into, and toward the end it’s a scrapped script about the safe room. I’ll probably repurpose a lot of it at some point but I think most of it’s readable if you’re interested. I don’t plan on posting it however because I still use it for notes.
@@DeskFanMan87 not a fan of that game, it felt pointless and redundant. Though the first is my favourite fnaf game. Gameplay wise. The story is fine but it's not as coherent as 3. Especially now with the retcon of the mimic it makes glitchtrap in that game feel weird and less threatening
I just realized something. If Purple Guy wasn't working for the company at the time of Follow Me, then getting springlocked and dying would be grounds for a lawsuit against the company. Even if he was just a security guard at that location, he wouldn't have signed the waiver to wear the springlock suit. It would still be the company's fault. So yeah, I could see how someone must've found him sometime later, told management, and the company decided to cover it up. And given the company's drastic measure of walling up all the safe rooms and then telling employees to never mention the safe rooms to anyone, I'm inclined to believe it was a coverup. And I do think the "simultaneous" springlock failures didn't necessarily result in death for those employees but I guess it doesn't matter. Like Phone Guy implies, you don't die instantly, but instead bleed out, which is what happened to Purple Guy. Safe to assume that you can survive if someone is there to get you out.
Which gives me a really funny image of Springtrap actually suing the company. He then shows up to court hearings, as the plaintiff, providing testimony, rotting suit and all but with a brand new purple tie because you have to dress just nice enough to that sort of thing.
@@matiasrivas1692im drawing that right now
@@squirrelmancer4620please comment on here or my recent community post so I can see it when you do, I’d like to see it!
@@matiasrivas1692😂😂
Something I see nobody mention is that the phone dude saying "we found one, a real one!" and being so excited about it means they could not find any other animatronic. So if Follow Me happens before FNAF 1, where is the band? They're clearly not broken and we never see them after Follow Me, so where are they? Not to mention that we see their remains in the very atraction where Springtrap is the only animatronic, as if to say that he was found and the others weren't because they remained dismantled after the minigame.
I really like the idea that Henry sealed off the room instead of Fazbear Entertainment, it explains why the animatronics were not repaired, the place was abandoned so nobody else found out or cared about it.
Wow, I should have totally used that as supporting evidence, you’re absolutely right. That call really does not make sense if Follow Me is pre FNAF 1. Good catch!
@@DeskFanMan87 Thanks, that's one of the main reasons I've never liked the idea of the minigame being pre-Fnaf one, that and the fact that it would be very redundant.
Idk if this may be useful, but another detail that may be worth considering is that phone guy says "are being sealed at most locations." "Most", so it's possible the Fnaf 1 location safe room wasn't sealed until Henry or the ghosts trapped William inside. Or it could mean nothing, idk, but I wanted to give it a mention just in case.
I like the theory, but I think the Tales From The Pizzaplex already gave us an answer to how this "paradox" works. In the story "Pressure" you can see in the roleplay area that whoever takes the role of Springtrap has to find the safe room where William Afton's knife is located. There it's explained that that room can only be opened from the outside. This same explanation is seen in the fifth epilogue where a camouflaged door is seen in a wall that hides a back room of the Pizza Place, being the place to which The Mimic tries to attract teenagers to trick them.
Yeah, I’m realizing that now, @InfalliblePizza commented something similar. I do appreciate you calling out which epilogue it was, because I remembered Pressure but honestly forgot that detail in the epilogues. Maybe I’ll do a part 2 to follow up on this, I had a scrapped script that more relied on my second theory at the end, with the hidden door, so this fits real cleanly. I also try to explain Shadow Freddy, Shadow Bonnie, and Yenndo in that script so that’ll actually be really fun.
This could still fit with the theory of Henry being convicted for William’s crimes too. If the wall door is one-way like the other commenters have been saying, then even if William couldn’t open it from inside, Henry still could find the aftermath of follow me and find William back there and choose to leave him, or at least hear him back there.
Agreed, I’ve always liked the theory of Henry being convicted, it would explain where on earth he is and in the novels they even suspected him first, but the fact they eventually do narrow in on William and can’t make it stick has always make me hesitant to say I believe it. It not even just a novel thing, the fact that Afton changing his name carried over to the movie really makes me think that’s how it goes down in all the continuities, hence William being a night guard in FNAF 2.
@@DeskFanMan87 makes sense but it would be nice if Scott clarified that he didn’t know the difference between arrested and convicted when he wrote the FNAF 1 newspapers cause they directly state that someone was charged and convicted, at least for kidnapping, cause they can’t prove any murders happened with no bodies. Charging is to be formally accused, conviction happens after being found guilty. So *someone* was found guilty of at least kidnapping, via the suit and back room.
@@ScapeVEVOyep, I wish so too, but who knows, that may be the one retcon. I think one day we’ll have an answer, maybe another 10 years or something, but for now I just have a lot of fun speculating.
Good vid!
I think Tales gives us a decent answer. “Sealing” the rooms means constructing a false wall, they never say they board up the room in the actual tapes.
In Tales, they find a door behind the stage that is a pressure latch door, meaning it would open only on the outside. It also blends in with the rest of the wall, so its probably one of the “sealed” backrooms.
The Follow Me mini game doesnt have sprites for doors, so I find it likely a door just locked behind William after being chased around. The “sealing” has already happened by that point. This loosely fits with the novels and movie too.
Okay, see now THIS is good, and lines up really well with my second mini theory at the end. I have read all the books, but for some reason never made that connection.
I wrote a whole other script a long time ago that is basically this, and way more narrative driven (you can actually read most of it at 8:29 in the video, it has some notes and then the old script at the end if you’re at all curious)
The 4 ghosts blocked him from leaving.
I assume you mean the ghosts locked the door thanks to their connection with the building, like we see in the movie?
rather than it just conveniently shutting on its own lol
The door didn't lock. The ghosts blocked him
@@novustalks7525 the ghosts disappear 😵💫
Well done on the second video. For a second sealing, we have to remember Fazbear Entertainment are at their worst by the time of FNAF 1 as far as cover ups go. It's literally written into their contracts to only write up missing person's reports 30 days after they've cleared any of their blood from the building. Even if the building is mostly abandoned by the time of Follow Me, I would not put it past them to just replace the boards William used to get into the room, especially if they had any hope of actually selling the building.
I assume the parts also were sold and auctioned off as the Frights crew only got the Foxy head recently.
ive been wondering about this for a whhiilee,, even got ryetoast to see my question on a stream and they straight up said "i dont know". so cool to see someone else try to figure it out.
That’s honestly why I wanted to make this video. This whole thing is something most theories look at, shrug, and move on. I don’t even come to a solid conclusion, I just wanted someone to acknowledge how weird it is and lay out all the pieces.
You deserve more subscribers, pal. The video was amazing!
Wow thanks! I didn’t expect to see you here, I saw your fixing bad funko figures vid a little bit ago, you do awesome modeling work.
Another really good one! The energy you bring is so refreshing. It feels like you are talking with the audience instead of at ys or just reading straight off a script. It is great. Cannot wait for more!
Another good video, I definitely feel it's more likely Henry's the one to seal up William as he's one of the few people to have an account of the events directly after follow me
Considering that the only other people are the faz frights crew who come in and take the empty shells
great video, i always thought the fnaf 3 phone calls and saferoom closing timeline was confusing, you explained perfectly why that is. when i clicked this video i knew i was a fan of you but i forgot that it was only your 2nd video haha.
I love how there's just board trying to solve the timeline in the back. Also, I do believe the only way to make sense of Follow Me is if it's pre-FNaF 1. As for the timeline of the FNaF 3 tapes, the there's nothing indicating the gap of time between the the last few unlike the first three which happens in 3 consecutive days. The first 3 tapes could happen pre-MCI, the 4th happening in 1985 after the MCI and the last tape happens some time later in-between FNaF 2 and FNaF 1. Follow Me could have happened years before FNaF 1, meaning the state of it could have been much different, which likely is the case since Phone Guy was alive while the room was sealed. Also, I realized recently that William couldn't have turned the animatronics into remnant since the spirits of the children are still out and remnant would have contained their souls. We can also see the parts of the animatronics in the blob from SB where's the parts of the animatronics are still on the floor when William dies. There's also the fact William never even dismantled Golden Freddy.
Glad you appreciate the board lol, I need to get it over to the new apartment still.
As far as Follow Me, my thing is just the fact the animatronics get dismantled. I cannot justify it in my head placing that before FNAF 1, especially in the game where we see the shells of said dismantled animatronics. As for the blob I think it’s a good chance a lot of parts are replicas/FNAF AR parts. But maybe a lot more survived from the FNAF 3 fire than we thought, they do mention an auction at the end.
@@DeskFanMan87 The animatronics getting dismantled is a point worth noting but also keep in mind all the other animatronics are also dismantled despite not being done by William. It could be logical that the animatronics were repaired after Follow Me took place and then after the FNaF 1 location closed, they were scrapped as well. ALSO, if Follow Me took place after FNaF 1 closed for good, there would be no reason nor anyone to board up the safe room.
1:12 that was an awesome transition
I…never actually considered your point about Henry trying to stop William in the novels
great catch my dude 👏 Henry trapping William suddenly feels way more plausible
especially if he also tried killing him in the movies (entom posted a theory that Henry is responsible for the burn damage on Spring Bonnie)
FNAF 2 will likely be his introduction + we’ve still yet to learn anything about Fredbear’s…makes sense imo
I really do hope we get more of Henry in the films at some point, I think fitting Henry in this theory works but at the same time I can fit him anywhere and it works because we get so little characterization of him. If that does happen I will feel so validated honestly lol.
in "save them" even the toy animatronics are missing their buttons. it seems like a general limitation/style this particular game goes with. in fnaf 3, there seems to be a freddy depicted with two buttons (toy freddy) and a freddy with no buttons (classic freddy). they are featured in drawings (which are probably decades old). overall i cant find conclusive evidence right now to see what classic freddy design survived in fnaf 3. mby theres something else out there tho to check this point. otherwise i dont have too much to add, very thorough video, thank you!
there is this: static.wikia.nocookie.net/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/7/7c/SpringtrapCam02ANoLights.png/revision/latest?cb=20150307091744 picture of bonnie in fnaf 3. as you can see, he has no buttons on his chest, suggesting that this is the design from fnaf 1
oh my god dude. this has legitimately, been bothering me SINCE the game came OUT. and recognition for the storytelling in fnaf3?? hallelujah!
and! not that the SL vid wasn't great too, but that little mini theory part was what stuck with me most, i was so curious about it and glad that was what tied this one together lol. i as well have always Wanted to believe it was henry (at the same time though, im so desperate for this man to have more involvement in the story that half the time i believe he was the fnaf3 guard lmao) but had no real solid evidence. this is great! im with you 100% here
I like that UA-cam is recommending videos from really small channels but god some of them are so ass so the quality of this one was a welcome surprise
Thank you! I wanted the visuals to be nice at least for people, even if the audio wasn’t 100% perfect.
It's really amazing you already have 500 subs just with 2 vids, really shows the quality of your content!
I've got something really really cool, a theory that solves FNAF 1, explains gaps in the timeline, tells us more about Willy Afton, clarifies sometthings, and solves early installment weirdness.
And more, it might even have answers about Phone Guy. You interested? I'd like to pitch it to someone
Would you like to comment here or my latest community post? Always interested in theories😎
@@DeskFanMan87 There's two halves, the part I'm certain about and the more iffy stretch part. If it's in there cool, if not I hope you hear me out.
Let me set the stage with a fact. FNAF 1's location is the ONLY time in the whole series where Guards being murdered at night by animatronics was a regular occurrence. It's easy to forget that as it was the first game in the series, but it's true.
FNAF 2's location only ever had 3 guards. The first guy was William and he got out after a Week. Second guy was Jeremy who survived the Nightshift(but probably got his frontal lobe nibbled off on the following Dayshift), and the Third Guy was Fritz who is probably Micheal. There's also some notable revelations here I'll get back to in a minute.
FNAF 3, one guard, probably Micheal(though some fringe theorists think it's Henry), they live. FNAF 4, no guards. FNAF SL...this one is actually kind of hard to say, FNAF 6, one guard, Micheal, dies but not because of animatronics.
FNAF 2 also establishes via Phone Guy that this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened. Guard 1's reports were thought of as impossible and it's only during Jeremy's week they start to figure out a theory(the bare endoskeleton thing) and offer up some solutions. This tells us the original location that was open for a bit after the murders either didn't have nightguards(makes sense enough, no big crime, no need) or the Puppet hadn't gotten to them yet. It also tells us Guard fatalities are something they're actively trying to avoid.
But in FNAF 1? There's a whole procedure for it. Body removed, property cleaned and bleached, carpets replaced, missing person report within 90 days. A institutional solution for it combined with Phone Guy's "Most people don't last this long" implies MANY guards at this location have come and perished before Micheal arrives in 92/93(doesn't matter, but TLDR 93 has never been proven. Matpat picked it because of the Aurora Chuck E Cheese incident, the tax data said it could be anywhere from 1991-1996, and the Faz Fact that referenced it was cut and might not be canon. But that would have the work week go from Tuesday to Monday which is stupid. Meanwhile in 1992 the November dates line up perfectly with the work week. Minor detail, worth mentioning though).
This means that not only have a ton of guards died, but there's a procedure for it, meaning the company is both aware and doesn't care. But why? This isn't hugely profitable 2030s Fazbear entertainment sweeping a few missing kids and staff under the rug, this is 1990s floundering Fazbear. Why waste so much many dealing with dozens of dead guards...unless...gathering dead guards is the goal.
Let me ask another question. Who is running the show in the 1990s? Henry is out the timeline from the mid 80s until right before FNAF 6, maybe he's hiding in guilt, heck, I personally buy the theory he was framed(explaining the newspaper clipping saying the suspect was convicted) and spent a couple decades in jail, starting on the FNAF 6 project right after getting out. But even if he was here, Henry would never allow any of this to happen. And I already explained above why the faceless corporate overlord types, or even Miss Afton if you wanna bring that up, wouldn't do this. The profit motive isn't there. The location is a crumbling mess and the cleanup procedure is massive and expensive.
That only leaves our boy William Afton, who is alive at this point, was free as recently as 1987, and we have zero evidence he was charged for the DCI/SAVE THEM incident. William Afton was running the FNAF 1 location and funding the cleanups of stuffed, dead, guards. But why?
Well, for years the fandom has talked of William doing remnant experiments, soul experiments, maybe even agony experiments. That's how we get the theory the original 5 souls may have ended up in Funtime Freddy and Ballora and eventually in Molten Freddy and The Blob. But would William really have stuck to the same handful of souls, especially as he seemingly didn't want to mess with his daughter? Why not get a larger sample size, recreate the suffering? But kids are too risky to go after, he's done that twice and gotten away by the skin of his teeth. People care about kids, but what about poor working class blokes? Transients? People no one would notice if they suddenly were to vanish.
I'm of the belief the FNAF 1 location, Bear themed restaurant and all, is a honey pot. It's a trap. It would certainly explain things like the door design and power supply. Transients, Desperate people, poor workers down on their luck, read a newspaper ad, dead in a few days, stuffed and ready for testing. This theory predates the Movie, but the Movie absolutely backs it up with him encouraging people to take the job. The location may have closed in 92/93, but the FNAF 2 ending and Phone Guy lines suggest it may have opened up far sooner than that, within a year of the FNAF 2 location closing. Dozens of men could have died there before the place finally closed at 'years end' a few weeks after Micheals run.
And seemingly it didn't work. Maybe because the suffering wasn't enough. Maybe these men lacked the hope to hold on that the kids did, drained by a terrible life prior. Or maybe it's simply because The Puppet had cottoned on and wasn't going to help bring anyone back. Not anymore.(We know they were at the FNAF 1 location, both from the timeline and the FNAF 2 cutscenes, yet we never see them. Curious). So eventually as the place shut down William decided to take a closer look at the originals. Break them up, study their bits, perhaps reuse them. What made them special? And it would explain why that original remnant kept being re-used, the circumstances were specific and it was so hard to get more. They were no longer needed as unintentional killers.
And Sister Location? Which most people place next to FNAF 1 in the timeline(either before or after depends). While it's not as blatant, it's the only other location with HINTS of prior guard fatalities. Plus the two technitions. Curious then this is the one place we know was fully a William operation.
That's the main theory. All above. FNAF 1 location is a trap to lure in guards to get stuffed and use for remnant experiments. It didn't work, so William eventually scrapped the animatronics to study directly after it closed.
Ok, here's the bit of a stretch part.
Phone Guy. The eternal enigma. Leading candidate to be the Purple Guy for over a year. We know he was innocent, and in hindsight it was kind of obvious from the start(The FNAF 2 phonecalls very clearly tell us it's the Dayshift Guard/Former Nightguars, and they aren't the same person as Phone Guy. Heck they trick Phone Guy). But he's definitely sketchy. He helps hide what's going on in the FNAF 2 location, covers up Springsuit fatalities, organizes the saferooms being sealed, and knows very well what's happening to all the guards at the FNAF 1 location. He's not a killer, but he is a diehard company loyalist who has been complicit in and helped cover up numerous crimes. Bit of a toadie.
And we also have evidence William has blackmailed and threatened people more than once. He got the Funtime Designs past those execs who knew what they were for. SOMEONE was arrested in the 80s for the MCI and it clearly wasn't him. (Henry is the prime theory as it explains a bunch of other things, but back in the day a popular option was 'the guy in the foxy costume from Foxy Go Go' or 'One of the other bullies from Fnaf 4).
This coo-coo banana pants theory is that Phone Guy was essentially strong-armed into being William's igor and right hand man in running the FNAF 1 location, handling the logistics of the new hires and managing the clean ups. Phone Guy is a toadie to start with(as shown above) and William could easily threaten to either frame him for the DCI/Save Them, or just leak all the audio of Phone Guy covering up various deaths on behalf of Fazbear over the years(probably edited to relieve William of any blame). The tapes were in the same room as Springbonnie, he has access to them. That would explain why Phone Guy, while not being THE killer, is clearly involved in so much nasty business. Toadie to William to the end, especially when being credibly threatened.
It would also explain why in FNAF 1, despite towing the line and never fully telling you to 'leave and never come back' or something sensible like that, he does TRY to give subtle hints to either help you out or warn out without crossing the line. His previous deeds were very impersonal and detatched, he was the middleman, not the cause. Now he's directly involved like never before, he can't write off the blame in his mind anymore, "only following orders" is a lot harder when you're there in person and leading people to their deaths directly. (BTW, great title for a Phone Guy theory video. Only Following Orders). So he's trying desperately to get some warnings out in-between dismissing them and legal jargon and lying to you about the cause of the malfunction.
This would also explain his fate. While Phone Guy had nominally been a guard since the place opened(as indicated by his FNAF 2 dialogue), it was obviously more of a training role, head guard, served only on paper in a lot of ways. He wasn't doing it weekly for all those years. But I'm guessing his disobediance and evidence of trying to sneak out warnings eventually came to Williams attention. Which combined with the fact all the Stuffed Guards were not working out in the experiments and William was probably getting angry...he sent Phone Guy to do things in person, and ensured he'd never come back.
It was indeed his last week, just as promised.
@@kalkuttadrop6371 okay first off, I really like the Phone Guy interpretation here, that’s something that IF William was in charge, I would totally just accept as “hell yeah, canon.” I guess if ‘The Week Before’ ends up being about him we’ll have some more info. So excited for that book.
The next thing is your idea of FNAF 1 essentially being an intended trap definitely lines up with the movie, and I like the idea, but for me I’ve always struggled with how William would at all be in any position of power over the restaurant, at least going by his real name. Obviously in the Silver Eyes he gets the “Prime Suspect” badge after the MCI, but can freely leave and changes his name. I think that it’s really weird that movie Afton also for some reason had to change his identity publicly, though we aren’t given the full picture in the film.
In fact, I don’t think they ever actually say that Afton is still the owner in the movie, it’s definitely implied but to me they very intentionally left it vague. The only line I can think off the top of my head is,”the owner just can’t seem to let it go yet.” I think they’re leaving the door open for if they want to, they can put in a Henry or someone else to come in who technically owned the place but never went, similar to aunt Jen from Silver Eyes and Henry’s old house.
Overall I really like your thought process on this, definitely a great read.
@@kalkuttadrop6371 also I wanted to add that you should totally make this into a video if you want! You don’t gotta do anything fancy (heck I record and edit on my phone) and I take a few weeks cus I like to have fun trying to do little animated sections. If you got more thoughts like this I’m sure more people will like to hear them😁
@@DeskFanMan87 We actually know for 100% Afton was running operations somewhere after MCI. Circus Baby's Pizza World's original opening had to happen AT LEAST after the MCI thanks to the 'unfortunate closing' detail(though I've seen it placed even later after FNAF 2 on occasion). And that was a public operation. Not to mention the rental scheme.
I also want to point out that said location was ALSO a purpose built deathtrap, except with kids and with animatronics fine tuned for that purpose.
So William absolutely can hold positions of power even after MCI. It's not clear if he used his real name when working at FNAF 2 the week before Jeremy, but he was never caught for that.
Also, William being let go due to lack of evidence is a book thing. The games explicitly say 'convicted'. That one word means charged successfully in a court of law. So either this is the one retconn(which means you can't use that excuse for any other elements of my theory) or SOMEONE was framed. And Henry is MIA for decades...(not to mention even in the books several people privately suspected him and it contributed to his end).
So he's held power after MCI, he's worked at Fazbear's after MCI, and he's built a purpose built death trap once before.
Oh and William knows firsthand the old animatronics attack people dressed like guards. He was there in FNAF 2. In fact he was THE first person to get this info. So why not take advantage of that and bring in some people nobody would miss.
I don’t usually like and comment and all that, but you’ve got great stuff here and you should keep at it! I had this on in the background and I had no idea you were such a small channel.
I do believe there is merit to the theory that Fazbear Entertainment sealed the room again, since they really don't want anyone looking into those rooms at all, despite the place being clearly abandoned, established very well in those tapes.
But, does it really matter *who* closed the saferoom again? What we should establish is that The Saferoom was, in fact, closed up by the moment the Fazbear's Fright people find him, so it was clearly closed again after the minigame happened, and the abandoned state of the building means that it must be after FNAF 1.
But, by all means, the saferoom was sealed again. That is what is established, that after he died, the saferoom was closed again.
Excellent video! Your thought process and video layout is both succinct and lucid. Although I'm unable to pinpoint exactly why, I find your voice and style of narration really easy to listen to. Good luck with your next rabbit hole!
Thank you so much! I just bought a microphone for my next video, so hopefully the audios even better then (just been phone recording so far)
@@DeskFanMan87 Oh wow, I must be behind on phone mics then, it sounds great lol! I've read that out of the box settings for mics can be a little subpar and need tweaking, hope you get it working like you want it!
Very well put together video!
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I agree with what you say, it’s confusing.
Personally I've always seen the events depicted in FNaF 3 to go as follows.
Years ago when Fredbears was open they order the safe rooms to be sealed and hidden.
This leaves the Spring Bonnie animatronic in their which had already been used to murder the kids at this point.
Years pass and after 1987 Freddy's closes they reuse the old Fredbears location as the Freddy's we see in FNaF 1 with Spring Bonnie still hidden.
FNaF 1 happens and the building is abandoned.
Afton returns when it's rundown but before Phone Dude does and opens up the safe room and dismantled the animatronics, he does in the springlock suit as we see in the mini game.
Later Phone Dude investigates that particular Freddy's location and finds the safe room already opened with Springtrap inside.
Interesting perspective that Fredbear’s is the building reused after 1987, never heard that one before.
Sorry I think I meant the original Freddys, the one before 1987 that would've existed at the same time as Fredbears.
It's hard for me to remember but I think my idea was that there was a lot of crossover between the two restaurants because they were being merged together, like the real life chuck e cheese and rockafire explosion.
Yo love the content, keep it up!
You didn’t convince me that Follow Me can’t take place before FNAF 1 because of some key details from the FNAF 2 phone calls you didn’t mention.
Phone guy mentions how “Someone used one of the suits. We had a spare in the back, a yellow one. Now none of them are acting right.” Meaning the spring lock suits were around during FNAF 2.
This means the DCI got the safe rooms sealed and when Fazbear moved back into the FNAF 1 building they sealed the safe room with William inside.
I’m going to cover this in another video, but I believe that the suit used during the DCI was Golden Freddy, as William has used the suit before (example being silver eyes)
I think him wearing the suit and doing more murders makes Shadow Freddy.
2 banger theories in a row! Keep going man!
The more I think about it, the more confused I get. This franchise is getting to me @_@
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Small problem here: We DO see it being used in FNaF 2. Or rather, we hear it happen, thanks to Phone Guy's Night 6 phone call: "Someone used one of the suits... We had a spare one at the back, a YELLOW one, someone used it. Now none of them is acting right." Other than that, the video's pretty solid.
EDIT: Ok, after reading some of the comments, I know that you believe that Golden Freddy was the suit that William used, but like... I dunno, I just think it's weird how that suit never collapsed in him due to the spirit inside it hating Afton, or how he'd be able to operate only using 4 fingers in it instead of Spring Bonnie's 5. I think it makes more sense that the suits were sealed _after_ FNaF 2, but _before_ FNaF 1 rather than just being sealed pre-FNaF 2.
It IS weird, agreed, but I thought it made sense. My opinion on it may have changed recently (depending on a video I’m working on) but my rationale was it created Shadow Freddy.
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another amazing video! keep it up!
You cooked again bro this is really good!!!
How do the phantoms factor into your theory? Perhaps that's the reason only chica is her Fnaf 1 design? Good video, lots to think about when fitting the franchise together.
The phantoms are….weird.
I agree with most people that the guard in 3 is Mike, it would tie into if Fritz Smith is Mike. But I don’t tend to use the phantoms as strong evidence for that. Most of the phantoms have their parts in the building, so there’s an explanation there. Exemptions being Freddy and Foxy, but like I said I treat them as mostly interchangeable so it may just be a style thing because those versions are creeper with the phantom skin.
I don’t think there’s much deep lore besides the game needed some more characters. It’s been expanded since with stories like ‘What We Found’ kinda explaining that Springtrap just being there brings the hallucinations out based on your past.
I’d have to think about it more, honestly they’re very forgettable 😅
@@DeskFanMan87 I think you're short selling your own theory's potential for explaining things. You mentioned they found those pieces in the FNAF 1 location, right before they find Springtrap himself. If he spent 30 years trapped back there, his agony and remnant mixing with the pieces there, factoring in what you said about the withereds vs classic vs whatever... I just think the explanations fit together nicely, even if it wasn't originally intended.
I think the phantoms being projections of remnant from the parts of the specific robots and the phantoms being projections from Springtrap both work, remnant is the left behind echoes of strong emotions and souls. It's all of those things, and Springtrap being able to wield the projections of remnant works because remnant manipulation is his entire work before he gets trapped.
But that's not really about the vid. Like I said, good video. You might want to try moving your filming setup so the light source is in front of you, or a bright light and point it at a big white wall behind the camera while you film to get a soft fill light in the foreground.
@@blanktester ynow what, that does work really well, thank you! (Man it’s so cool to see someone else add on to your theory and it makes sense) if I ever do a full timeline on the original Scott era I’ll try to find a way to include this.
@@DeskFanMan87 if you do that, you should make sure to watch the video puppy did on remnant. It really clears up some of the weirdness with souls and stuff.
Springtrap was not to be accessed because of the springlock failure where fredbear bit a kid and was then scrapped. The remaining Springtrap waa just left there never to be touched
I disagree that the Bite of 83 was the spring lock failure that causes the suits to be decommissioned, mainly because I don’t think it was a spring lock failure. Fredbear was already in robot mode, so all locks would be in place already, there’s nothing to trip. But that’s my opinion.
@@DeskFanMan87 and that's valid. But there's no other instance we've been shown and since there's only 2 suits it means afton was the first case of someone being killed inside one
@@novustalks7525 I actually cover this in my sister location theory, dunno if I got the details right but I seriously think it ties into the suit we’re in during night 4.
@@DeskFanMan87 I always did find that suit odd. The games only mentioned 2 suits before and after that so it's completely random that there's a third.
you look like one of those Pixar AI filter guys
I always shave before filming, probably adds to the smooth look lol. I dunno if it’s a compliment? but okay lol
@DeskFanMan87 nah I wasn't being mean lol. sorry. just a random observation. it's like you just look unreal but that's not a bad thing lol
@@skandto nope totally fine, it’s just very funny. I definitely see where you’re coming from.
was that document at the end all you? I'd love to be able to read all your thoughts on this
Yep those are some of my notes and thought! Some of it’s just spitball ideas that I’m not convinced but thought it was worth looking into, and toward the end it’s a scrapped script about the safe room. I’ll probably repurpose a lot of it at some point but I think most of it’s readable if you’re interested. I don’t plan on posting it however because I still use it for notes.
h-how d-did i g-got t-this r-recommended 21 h-hours l-l-later..
UA-cam be doin some dumb stuff, I dunno lol, just glad to have ya!
Yo
Yo
Arguably the best story fnaf ever told. And the last genuinely good or coherent one
It was definitely one of the cooler reveals, though I really like Help Wanted 2 and the VANNI mask reveal.
@@DeskFanMan87 not a fan of that game, it felt pointless and redundant. Though the first is my favourite fnaf game. Gameplay wise. The story is fine but it's not as coherent as 3. Especially now with the retcon of the mimic it makes glitchtrap in that game feel weird and less threatening
@@novustalks7525fair, I just have a lot of fun in food prep I guess 😅
@@DeskFanMan87 surprisingly quite a few people did from what I've seen
oh my god i was the 666th like
edit: great video btw
CURSED!!!!😱
Also, thank you!
Damn
Damn indeed