I really thank you guys said Chinese new year rather than Lunar new year，because many people said Lunar new year but we dont have this festival in China！
The boy who said gopro 4 in front of you actually means that he has bought the Dajiang action 4 (production from Chinese technology company which can compete with the gopro 12),well,we can understand his proudness of the nation technology development.
Sir, you should go to China to see it with your own eyes. A couple from Canada have visited many cities through the visa-free program. www.youtube.com/@JetLagWarriors/videos
This is exactly how I felt when I saw cops in China. Half-expecting the police to go totalitarian on me for taking photos but in reality, they are far more chilled than the cops in US. :D The truth is, the law enforcement in China has really delivered in the recent years and have basically turned it from a Wild West 2 decades ago to a safe and prosperous place. The Chinese love the cops because they know if they don't do anything wrong then they have nothing to fear. Once I saw a kid offering his drink to a Police Droid on a hot day. We all chuckled.
The policeman in tourist spot usually acts as information person. I would say that their main job is probably providing directions to tourists. They act as a human fence in public holidays too.😊
To be honest, I really don't understand why every UA-camr who comes to China is so afraid of the police in China. In China, you can ask the police for any help, such as asking for directions. Moreover, you can use your camera in front of the police at will, as long as you don't break the law and no one cares what you are doing. The influence of western media is really bad.
The flaky pastries you had at Lin Heung Lau (蓮香樓), they taste best with a sip of hot tea. It washes down the dry flakiness and balances with the rich taste of the filling.
Happy Chinese New Year！All people in the Greater China（Hongkong China、Macao China、Taiwan China、Korean、Vietnam...) will celebrate the Chinese New Year,but only in Chinese Mainland you can get the most original and pure experience of the Chinese New Year's Eve and Spring Festival.Welcome to China and have a good enjoy in journey！
They've had a secret third person.for a while. In the past it was shown to be a female friend of theirs. I don't know if it's still the same. They've hinted that they have no interest in talking about it. So just enjoy the mystery.
1. not everyone in Canton speak cantonese, such as Waitress at the first restaurant. there are so many kind of language in China. 2. In China, this year is not dragon year but loong year, dragon is the west lizard with wings, sort of lowest level animal, but loong is so different. 3. In China, the highest compliment to a dessert is that it's not too sweet.
Spot on #2 and #3 but for #1, those do not speak Cantonese in Guangzhou are outsiders or migrant workers. It should be Guangzhou not Canton, Canton was a silly name by the British when they semi-colonized Guangzhou.
They are security staff who form the line to guide the people stream, more important to prevent stampede in emergency situations. You should learn about the stampede news in Seoul, South Korea. Westerners do not have this concept of public management. Of course, stampede incidents have also occurred in the West, but the authorities have not summarized management methods. Their tragedies will still occur.
When I watch videos of expats visiting China, they often explore street food and café-style fast food places because they're familiar. However, in Chinese restaurants, there are often many individual quiet rooms with just one table, which offers a more intimate and enjoyable dining experience.
Not everyone in Guangdong province or Guangzhou speaks Cantonese. There are three main local dialects speaking in Guangdong (Cantonese, Hakka, Chaozhou), and dozens other dialects as well.
US media always telling lies.The real China: "Very developed, cheap, cashless society, very green and environmentally friendly, very safe, no drugs or guns. no vagrants and thieves. The people are very friendly." It’s great to see your authentic shots of China in your videos.I am so impressed by this.
Don't worry about the police in China. There's a saying in China, "If you have a problem, go to the police." They are very willing to help ordinary people.
Those Chinese cookie are meant to relish slowly with tea, not meant to get full. Chinese desert are generally not overly too sweet. Concluding a desert as delicious or not simply based on sweetness is too primitive and easy. Chinese not only considered flavor, color, and presentation but also on historical context, freshness, maintain original flavor, rareness of texture and most of all the balance between 5 basic taste buds.
Haha hope yah like it! 😂 Wow, CNY in China is really an interesting thing to see, bet it's really a cool experience! Beijing road is poppin! TriFate crew 恭喜發財!
omg u r the first vlogger so far who drink MIXUE but also can sing the song lolllllllll🤣🤣and also lmao when u explain how the crowds push....hahaha, actually many younsters dislike it, but glad to see u surviveded and enjoyed the crowds. 😂btw the palace temple is in operation which r open for tourists, it's very poetic inside and god there is good😏There r many such temples in China,check it out next time if u want. Btw most new year activities starts right the day after new year's eve when most ppl just enjoy family reunion on the eve, and hang out, visit relatives after that. Hope u didn't miss the fireworks and drones show the day after！
The shop you saw with mobile phones and cars in there is HUAWEI shop, it publish a lot of high technology products even USA made sanctions since 2019, China can make more innovation products without USA technology. Good job, China!
Love this vid. I am from Guangzhou and it's not only fun to watch you two guys' first impressions from the American point of view but also the vid eases my nostalgia!
It’s interesting that you translate from English to Cantonese, waitress speak Mandarin to you. 😂Actually, Everyone in China understands Mandarin, but not everyone understands Cantonese, even in Guangzhou.
hopely want to see you guys set up an account in Chinese social media like bilibil or douyin. by the way，you guys' videos about China are popular in bilibili now ，it has a nice views and comments ❤❤(i followed you guys since you have done the recation videos for GEM's music videos😂😂)
Pansin ko warm at very welcoming yung mga tao sa Guangzhou.. para din syang Hongkong at Macau.. di ka ma iintimidate mag vlog.. one day mapupuntahan din kita Guangzhou❤
It makes me laugh. You put the whole cake in your mouth like this and be careful to choke it to death. People in Guangzhou don’t eat the whole cake like this. They eat it while drinking tea, such as black tea. Of course, you can also drink milk coffee. In short, you can’t do it. eat.
You can also go to Yongqingfang, Dongshankou, Baiyun Mountain, South China Botanical Garden, Zhengjia Commercial Plaza, take a cruise on the Pearl River to see the night view of Guangzhou, and you can also take a comfortable ferry in Guangzhou Pazhou Port to Hong Kong, because of the new policy after leaving Hong Kong , you can extend your visa and stay in China for a while😄😄😉
I am in Guangzhou, I have been there on the first day of the Spring Festival, everywhere is sososo crowded and everywhere is full of Chinese Spring Festival's atmosphere
Happy day young men, nice to share your video.Guangzhou is a great city for work and live. I like that colourful decoration store with water fountain. When you walked in there,it makes me think of you are in colourful lollies shop, because it colours and I like the way you ate Chinese cakes, you look like naughty little boys haha 😂
Bro you guys are awesome. Sometimes your interactions are hilariously like TV's Breavis and Buttt-Head in a nice way. Enjoy your stay in China. "Jia Yu"! (which also means Rock On!)
It’s a special day a huge crowd cops gonna be there help the people and keep an order in case do you know how many cups in New York Times Square the New Year’s Day, Jesus grand army there and they all have a guns
9:33 Don't eat things like a stray dog,it could kill you..Some food could suck up all your saliva,stuck in the middle of your throat!..Extremely sweet food will make you cough ....
There don’t seem to be any traditional celebrations. I haven’t spent the Spring Festival in a city for many years.There are many activities in our countryside during the Spring Festival
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You would totally like the Miaohui in northern cities like Beijing! They have fairs and all sorts of activities in the major parks in Beijing and obviously you can ice-skate on the lakes!!
Well GuangZhou is famous for Food however I haven’t seen you guys eat the famous food in Guangzhou yet. Go try the roast goose, roast pork, dim sum, the Cheongfun and porridge. Otherwise try their seafood too they are also famous for seafood too.
Thanks for watching!!
Check out our last video of us trying Chinese Street Food!: ua-cam.com/video/ubcTGBbsSWo/v-deo.html
I like your videos, they truly present the current situation in China without any bias.
I really thank you guys said Chinese new year rather than Lunar new year，because many people said Lunar new year but we dont have this festival in China！
Can you find one of those city light shows?
FYI, both Adidas and Nike are Anti-China brand, it's a bit distracted seeing those name up close, but thanks for sharing your Chinese new year video.
The boy who said gopro 4 in front of you actually means that he has bought the Dajiang action 4 (production from Chinese technology company which can compete with the gopro 12),well,we can understand his proudness of the nation technology development.
As you all can see this is what the so called "China's Economic Collapse" looks like! 😂😂
Western media fakes dude
Logically speaking, "China collapse" is contradictory to "China threat".
Now that it is going to collapse, what is the threat?
that is funny
Canard
They created a new phrase now, it's "China should not allow to surpass USA"
That “point single port” had me rolling 😂😂
God！18:08 I grew up here. It a old town！Maybe next time you come to Guangzhou I can be your tour guide !
😂😂
This is City is better than evey city in India... India is developing fast for only cows. New govt promoting eating Cown shit (cow dung ) also 💩🙄🙏🏻
Hey who holds the camera for you??
I've been following you guys from the beginning of your Chinese trip. I've enjoyed all of it. Rock on!
you think the media is telling the truth about china?
Sir, you should go to China to see it with your own eyes. A couple from Canada have visited many cities through the visa-free program. www.youtube.com/@JetLagWarriors/videos
This is exactly how I felt when I saw cops in China. Half-expecting the police to go totalitarian on me for taking photos but in reality, they are far more chilled than the cops in US. :D
The truth is, the law enforcement in China has really delivered in the recent years and have basically turned it from a Wild West 2 decades ago to a safe and prosperous place. The Chinese love the cops because they know if they don't do anything wrong then they have nothing to fear. Once I saw a kid offering his drink to a Police Droid on a hot day. We all chuckled.
The policeman in tourist spot usually acts as information person. I would say that their main job is probably providing directions to tourists.
They act as a human fence in public holidays too.😊
Yes and actually cops in this video mainly acted as maintainer of public order (cause so many people there as you can see)
so what would the US policeman do if he found you are taking photo of him?
😂😂😂中国警察只对坏人凶！我快六十岁了！小时候我们大概香港那么大的地方，只有两三个警察，那时叫公安，有一个是同学的爸爸！中国的教育让人们以犯错为耻！所以社会很安定！人民很善良！丑恶的政治丑化了中国！😂😂😂欢迎你能来中国玩
事实证明你在中国街头看到真正警察的可能性很小，那些人一般是城管或者是协警。
So clean, modern, traditional, cultural, well organised, colourful and prosperous 😮
welcome you😚
But Guangzhou is not that modern in China Shanghai shenzhen hangzhou is much better
it is real Chinese.if you have opportunity ,I hope you can go to china to travel
Welcome to GuangZhou. The capital of Guangdong province. It keeps the thousand years of Lingnan culture.
@@boyiyelcham2630I have been to all the cities you mentioned. I think Guangzhou is modern enough. It’s just that those other cities are super modern.
"I didn't expect there would be so many IPhones in China..."
Where do you think iPhones are manufactured? LOL!!!!
People who use iPhone in China are traitors, legit Chinese should use Huawei
To be honest, I really don't understand why every UA-camr who comes to China is so afraid of the police in China. In China, you can ask the police for any help, such as asking for directions. Moreover, you can use your camera in front of the police at will, as long as you don't break the law and no one cares what you are doing. The influence of western media is really bad.
估计朝鲜那边把他们吓到了，放不开
而且西方的警察是真暴力机构，也是潜移默化的影响吧
他們在自己的國家， 警察是很恐怖的 ❗😂
The flaky pastries you had at Lin Heung Lau (蓮香樓), they taste best with a sip of hot tea. It washes down the dry flakiness and balances with the rich taste of the filling.
老婆饼，老公饼
It goes well with hot coffee minus the sugar too.
小伙子们，识饮识食❤❤
That’s some kind of tea cakes ,supposedly eat them with warm tea😂
Happy Chinese New Year！All people in the Greater China（Hongkong China、Macao China、Taiwan China、Korean、Vietnam...) will celebrate the Chinese New Year,but only in Chinese Mainland you can get the most original and pure experience of the Chinese New Year's Eve and Spring Festival.Welcome to China and have a good enjoy in journey！
Who is the cameraman, bro?
They are paid by the Chinese Communist Party. That's why more UA-camrs are traveling to China recently.
They've had a secret third person.for a while. In the past it was shown to be a female friend of theirs. I don't know if it's still the same. They've hinted that they have no interest in talking about it. So just enjoy the mystery.
obviously they were using their stand powers
1. not everyone in Canton speak cantonese, such as Waitress at the first restaurant. there are so many kind of language in China.
2. In China, this year is not dragon year but loong year, dragon is the west lizard with wings, sort of lowest level animal, but loong is so different.
3. In China, the highest compliment to a dessert is that it's not too sweet.
Spot on #2 and #3 but for #1, those do not speak Cantonese in Guangzhou are outsiders or migrant workers. It should be Guangzhou not Canton, Canton was a silly name by the British when they semi-colonized Guangzhou.
Cantonese is actually not a kind of language. Its a dialect of Chinese.
不要钻牛角尖，明明气氛很好，硬要踩一脚破坏气氛。放平心态才是自信，而不是全身都是敏感点
文化输出最好是潜移默化，而不是强行输出。这就是为什么《战狼》人不爱看，说教是最不可取的。尤其是第二点，最后你贬低欧美的dragon，让人厌恶。
@@绿色韭菜吃糠咽菜美国队长解放萝莉岛？😂
They are security staff who form the line to guide the people stream, more important to prevent stampede in emergency situations. You should learn about the stampede news in Seoul, South Korea. Westerners do not have this concept of public management. Of course, stampede incidents have also occurred in the West, but the authorities have not summarized management methods. Their tragedies will still occur.
When I watch videos of expats visiting China, they often explore street food and café-style fast food places because they're familiar. However, in Chinese restaurants, there are often many individual quiet rooms with just one table, which offers a more intimate and enjoyable dining experience.
贵的嘛……那些地方算上汇率老外都喊贵……真土豪（马斯克老妈这样的）都不发这些呀😂😂
@@Alex_k_Q 还好吧看地方，即使广州这样的大城市一个人米其林的价格可以吃一桌菜，七八个人，而且这样的就餐环境在美国是没有的
@@aminitum 我的意思是说这帮老外有点屌丝了……没人带路就没人吃顿像样的
@@Alex_k_Q 我也是这个意思
Finally, you saw crowds!!!
Not everyone in Guangdong province or Guangzhou speaks Cantonese. There are three main local dialects speaking in Guangdong (Cantonese, Hakka, Chaozhou), and dozens other dialects as well.
I hear them speaking mandarin.
US media always telling lies.The real China: "Very developed, cheap, cashless society, very green and environmentally friendly, very safe, no drugs or guns. no vagrants and thieves. The people are very friendly." It’s great to see your authentic shots of China in your videos.I am so impressed by this.
Don't worry about the police in China. There's a saying in China, "If you have a problem, go to the police." They are very willing to help ordinary people.
Those Chinese cookie are meant to relish slowly with tea, not meant to get full.
Chinese desert are generally not overly too sweet. Concluding a desert as delicious or not simply based on sweetness is too primitive and easy.
Chinese not only considered flavor, color, and presentation but also on historical context, freshness, maintain original flavor, rareness of texture and most of all the balance between 5 basic taste buds.
the consumer habits in recent decades for Chinese pastry has been favoring less sweetness for health as well as a preference for flavor
No, no, no, that's not called a dragon, but a Loong. These are two completely different creatures. Dragons are evil, while Loongs are auspicious.
Haha hope yah like it! 😂 Wow, CNY in China is really an interesting thing to see, bet it's really a cool experience! Beijing road is poppin! TriFate crew 恭喜發財!
omg u r the first vlogger so far who drink MIXUE but also can sing the song lolllllllll🤣🤣and also lmao when u explain how the crowds push....hahaha, actually many younsters dislike it, but glad to see u surviveded and enjoyed the crowds. 😂btw the palace temple is in operation which r open for tourists, it's very poetic inside and god there is good😏There r many such temples in China,check it out next time if u want. Btw most new year activities starts right the day after new year's eve when most ppl just enjoy family reunion on the eve, and hang out, visit relatives after that. Hope u didn't miss the fireworks and drones show the day after！
广东人除夕夜最热闹的就是逛花市了，除夕也是花市最后一天。
did they miss the flowers then? i didn't see any@@flexliu7608
Sun kissed bucket list also drank mixue
Thanks for showing the celebration CNY in Guangzhou. In Canada, in some big events we don’t just have cops there are also snipers on the roof tops 😂
nice！
The shop you saw with mobile phones and cars in there is HUAWEI shop, it publish a lot of high technology products even USA made sanctions since 2019, China can make more innovation products without USA technology. Good job, China!
HUAWEI mate 60 pro, M7, M9, I suggest you to visit not only spots and food, but alos HUAWEI shop, BYD etc. it will give you more deep impressions.
Love this vid. I am from Guangzhou and it's not only fun to watch you two guys' first impressions from the American point of view but also the vid eases my nostalgia!
It’s interesting that you translate from English to Cantonese, waitress speak Mandarin to you. 😂Actually, Everyone in China understands Mandarin, but not everyone understands Cantonese, even in Guangzhou.
you know this is Chinese New Year. the most important festival in China. people mountain people sea😂
没有老婆的老婆饼😂， the pink one call "wife cake"
Acctually，most people in Guangzhou can speak both Cantonese and Mandarin，only a small number of older people speaking only Cantonese
不知道为什么看见你俩就想笑
哈哈哈哈哈我也是。
4:30 The place that sells phones and cars is actually a Huawei's flagship store, n it’s a pity that you didn’t go in and have a look.
those bean filled flaky pastries are meant to be eaten with hot tea otherwise it'd be way too dry lol
Recommend not to disclouse your paynent code in the video or public, It is better to blur it. Keep safe and enjoy your trip.
no need, that is a dynamic code,changes every several seconds.
@@gilgilgilbearYou're absolutely right
Great translation device. Sarap Ng pagkain nyo
The mobile translator is absolutely useful for foreign travellers and tourists. Huge crowds everywhere in the city.
Thanks!
Thanks Again!
Happy Chinese Lunar new year 🧧 both of you 💐💐
9:36 you guys need water🤣
i think this is the best vlogger out there, you guys also able to slip in for sponsor language translator. good job ngl
Do not show your payment code in video. It's not safe.
Not a big problem,Payment QR code is disposable😊
Hahaha, but the funny thing in the food ordering, the waitress actually was speaking in Mandarin .......
Guangzhou is not 3rd largest city, but 5th, by city area( not total area) and city population
欢迎来深圳玩
0:18 holy frackers dragons🎉
It's loong,not dragons.
Amazing video ❤😂❤😂👍
Thank you for the video, Guangzhou is my hometown, I wish I were there with my family for the Chinese New Year.
Thank you for your video,Never been in Guangzou,its close to macao,😊
Welcome to China😊
hopely want to see you guys set up an account in Chinese social media like bilibil or douyin. by the way，you guys' videos about China are popular in bilibili now ，it has a nice views and comments ❤❤(i followed you guys since you have done the recation videos for GEM's music videos😂😂)
站在大街上干咽豆沙饼也太好笑了吧😂😂😂
我笑到头疼。
hope you guys didn't miss the fireworks show on the first day of CNY😅
Pansin ko warm at very welcoming yung mga tao sa Guangzhou.. para din syang Hongkong at Macau.. di ka ma iintimidate mag vlog.. one day mapupuntahan din kita Guangzhou❤
这是一个误会，大陆人对所有人都友好。香港人对白人友好，过分的友好， 对其他亚洲人包括大陆人态度极差
It makes me laugh. You put the whole cake in your mouth like this and be careful to choke it to death. People in Guangzhou don’t eat the whole cake like this. They eat it while drinking tea, such as black tea. Of course, you can also drink milk coffee. In short, you can’t do it. eat.
Kung Hei Fat Choi
Gong Xi Fa Cai
Wishing you prosperity this coming year. 🎉🎉🎉
16:08 lol believe or not only 20 years ago where you guys are is like the place pocket-picking happens a lot. “仓廪实而知礼节”
那个翻译器太有意思了😂
15:58 When no one carries any cash, there are a lot less reasons to pickpocket.
The cakes go with tea, bros, hot tea.
Hope you like GZ！it's interesting for your vid 😊
You can also go to Yongqingfang, Dongshankou, Baiyun Mountain, South China Botanical Garden, Zhengjia Commercial Plaza, take a cruise on the Pearl River to see the night view of Guangzhou, and you can also take a comfortable ferry in Guangzhou Pazhou Port to Hong Kong, because of the new policy after leaving Hong Kong , you can extend your visa and stay in China for a while😄😄😉
dude you showed your alipay barcode ... you may want to edit it out. And why the heck would you choke down a **TEA** pastry without tea? LoL.
Kinda cute when they pronounced MIXUE as “mix ue “
Really enjoying this China trip. 🩶
I am in Guangzhou, I have been there on the first day of the Spring Festival, everywhere is sososo crowded and everywhere is full of Chinese Spring Festival's atmosphere
It is recommended that you mosaic the payment code in your video
没事，付款码不是收款码，它一会儿就自动过期了
Mixue is actually pronounced as “me Shue”
You guys are funny. You can travel to China again when it is warmer, so you will enjoy more.
Happy day young men, nice to share your video.Guangzhou is a great city for work and live. I like that colourful decoration store with water fountain. When you walked in there,it makes me think of you are in colourful lollies shop, because it colours and I like the way you ate Chinese cakes, you look like naughty little boys haha 😂
Really really love you two's China exploration video!
Amazing that you guys visit the flower marketing! It’s one of the best place to feel CNY atmosphere. 🎉
Do not make funny sound of Chinese New Year. Do people make funny sound when saying
Happy Christmas or Happy Birthday Jesus ?
Those pastries are not hopia. Can't compare them. It's like comparing sponge cake with pound cake.
Please stop showing your paying code in case of some evils would steal your money from that.Greeting from Guangzhou.
Oh no, I really feel choked when you eat the pastry without tea. Nobody does that in China.
Bro you guys are awesome. Sometimes your interactions are hilariously like TV's Breavis and Buttt-Head in a nice way. Enjoy your stay in China. "Jia Yu"! (which also means Rock On!)
Hahahahahahahaha OMG! I knew they reminded of someone 😁 they're definitely a smarter nicer version of B&B!
It’s a special day a huge crowd cops gonna be there help the people and keep an order in case do you know how many cups in New York Times Square the New Year’s Day, Jesus grand army there and they all have a guns
The Chinese police's responsibility is to help, protect, and serve the Chinese people. Some of them don't even have guns.
9:33 Don't eat things like a stray dog,it could kill you..Some food could suck up all your saliva,stuck in the middle of your throat!..Extremely sweet food will make you cough ....
The Western dragon breathes fire and the Chinese dragon breathes water. They are completely different.
There don’t seem to be any traditional celebrations. I haven’t spent the Spring Festival in a city for many years.There are many activities in our countryside during the Spring Festival
那是你们没有传统节目，传统文化看我大福建，游神、迎王、祭祖、拜天公…都在春节
我是泉州人@@Chinasaige
Hi trifate. Enjoy and be safe❤❤❤
Who was filming you guys from lianxianglou to the light house?
Good video.
Was in Guangzhou for CNY in 2017. I personally love Guangzhou food. This CNY was in Shanghai and it was very crowded.
The joke is very filipino 🤣🤣🤣 HOPIA LIKE IT 🤣🤣 uve been exposed to much to filipinos 😄
Massive LOL at 9:33 hahahaah omg you guys are crazy! 🤣🤣🤣
Any local would have told you that you guys went to the wrong dim sum place 😂
9:00 you eat that with tea. I think they're called "Wife Cakes"
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You guys need to visit (Tian He district) in Guangzhou , somewhere is amazing. 👍👍
When you got pick pocketed and you scream help using Fluentalk T1 mini!!? freckin epic! 😆🤣
That is tea cake,should eat slowly with tea, too dry to eat like this😂😂
You would totally like the Miaohui in northern cities like Beijing! They have fairs and all sorts of activities in the major parks in Beijing and obviously you can ice-skate on the lakes!!
It’s during the Chinese New Year
嘿，保护好你们的手机付款码，那样展示并不安全。
Oh true!!
Reminds me of Beve & Butthead twin 😊😊😊
😂😂😂
Well GuangZhou is famous for Food however I haven’t seen you guys eat the famous food in Guangzhou yet. Go try the roast goose, roast pork, dim sum, the Cheongfun and porridge. Otherwise try their seafood too they are also famous for seafood too.
Foreign tourists, particularly from the west, are normally very careful in spending their money.