Phase One medium format P-series backs
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2019
- Phase One P-series backs compared, with sample images. Looking at images from the P20, P45 and P21+.
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I have a 645 df, the reason i use the vertical grip is for the batteries, i struggled to find the right batteries for the body an the one i have is mostly dead. The grip takes the same cannon bp-915 batteries and the p series back, so now the camera is down to a single battery system.
You may already know about it but they did make a dedicated manual focus screen for this series of cameras, called the type C screen, they obviously don’t make them any more but they come up on eBay from time to time but i used to have on for my AFDii and it worked wonders for focusing manually, I can’t remember if it had a split prism but it might have done. It didn’t affect the AF performance at all just made the finder slightly brighter and much easier for manual focusing. The way i understand it is that modern focusing screens are optimised for lenses with a maximum aperture of 2.8 and the dedicated manual focus one is optimised for lenses with apertures faster than that.
Thanks for the video :)
I grew up on film and have just moved from full frame digital (35mm) to a P30+. Love it. Great long exposure work and, as you alluded to, it has a very unique "film" look.
thank you. would that P30+ in your opinion compare to the feel and color quality of the P20 that The Architectural Photographer demonstrated here? Because I share his feeling about the extraordinary feel the P20 photo's have
I once had the opportunity to use a Phase One with a p30 back for a weekend and fell in love. That was 6 years ago. Now I bought myself a Phase One p30+, a Phase One 645 and a Phase one 40mm Lens.
One question I do have is: whats the difference between the p30 and p30+?
Is it possible to connect the p30+ back to a laptop, and set the Camera to Mirror Lock, and use Live view via a firewire tether setup?
Is the p30+ Back capable of taking pictures with electric shutter only?
Great video! Any video update with photos from the P21+? Would love to see!
This is the best video about the P-series. Thank you for sharing these comparisons and using your wonderful images to do so. It really shows off the P-series potential.
EDIT:
One question, do you know if the P25+ exhibits the same qualities that you love about the images from the P20? That is, does it have the fat pixels and lovely colors?
Great video. You cant beat digital backs. One small detail I noticed is the P45 was not a full size sensor back. They were 49x37. The P65+ was the first full size 645 back at 54x42
I had no idea, despite owning one!
I love the older CCD sensors. The image looks so much more textured. A lot more like traditional film but with a depth and sharpness of digital. Its hard to explain. IA bit like watching a film on plasma. I recently got a P65+ which is an amazing back. With teh option of having smaller size raw with much higher ISO's never really found on MF. I also use it on my Mamiya RZ which gives me a whole new system to play with when i need to work slower and with the quality of the mamiya lenses.
I’d love to see you do a video in this setup. Sounds like I could learn a lot from it.
Any advice on a digital back that's usable on my Mamiya 645 Pro ? (I'm not worried about Autofocfus).
Lovely to see someone else using this camera. I'm interested in the 50mm shift you have fitted there. Are they worth the effort of hunting down a good example of these? Contrast and resolution in particular. I'm running the P45+ back.
The 50mm shift is wicked. Beautifully mechanically simple and great image quality.
Interesting you said that about muted colors on older backs, I find that new backs are so punchy. I actually still shoot some portraits with a Canon 1ds mkii. There's just something about that sensor.
1Ds II was my first pro body. I’ve a soft spot for that workhorse camera.
Thanks for a great review!!
Do you have any idea if p30+ has a similar/identical look to p21+?
Hello and thank you. The only thing I’m aware of with the P30(+?) is that it has some sort of micro-lens surface that causes conflict if used on a camera with movements. Sorry, I’ve not used one myself..
18 megapixel photos measure in at 5184 pixels wide by 5184 ?
Thanks for the video! I've been using a 645DF+ with a P65+ and now an IQ1 60 for the last year. I love the image quality, but I find the autofocus very tricky. I take portraits mostly, and I find that I have more than the usual amount of out of focus shots. Often the AF will lock onto the ears of a subject. Do you have any AF tips at all?
I don’t shoot people and I don’t shoot commercial with it, I’m afraid. Shame you’re not getting the hit rate, because skin tones are beautiful with these backs. Have you tried mf, like the good ol’ days…?
Try using a tripod, I have an iq180 and P25 model, handheld can be nightmare sometimes. Let your model know to be patient, also try to shoot tether so you can see outcome. Good luck!
@@thearchitecturalphotograph2973 Great to see you still comenting on such an old vid :)
Doesnt it have a smile recognition feature? That might be turned on.
Hi, I’m thinking of buying the Phase One DF. Have you had any issues with the body batteries? I’ve heard it can gobble through power!
I’ve not had the df. I’ve never gone the full hour exposure (is that 30mins + 30mins dark frame…?). Neither have I owned batteries from new, so I can’t be sure mine hold the full juice. Sorry I can’t be more help.
How did it ever go with that P21? I use the Kodak Pro Back 645, same sensor as the P20, and that sensor is just the best. But I would love something more modern, that also has good colors
Apologies. I must do a follow up video…
Hello and thank you for a very informative explanation about Phase One backs. I work for Museums and a lot of products and portrait photography with Nikon cameras. Would you be so kind and recommend me which model of Phase One camera to buy on the used market? I saw a lot of well-priced models Mamiya/Phase one but as you said what about service of the older models?
I guess something newer that you can tether. I’m afraid I’ve had no experience with the newer backs. Good luck.
@@thearchitecturalphotograph2973 Thank you :-)
Can this P series back tether to capture one 10 pro?
@@nana4ma yes u can
you use the grip for the battery capacity!!, simple as that, as this battery can power the back to, and also with digital, this battery/camera body tells the back lens settings, and communicates flash data between them, this takes power, and a lot of it, so for all day wedding and other genre's this is essential to going through a day without constantly changing batteries.
Thanks for the video, that was very interesting! Looking for an MF camera myself, but can't make up my mind if I should spend 1,5-2K on an old system, when I can pick up a GFX for 4K used. Hope to see more uploads from you! :)
I’m tempted by the GFX 50R for work. Dynamic range looks exceptional, and I can use my Canon glass on it. Good luck in your choice.
A few months ago, I scored a GFX100 used, from B&H...I honestly can't see any use on it, was looking brand new to me. They had the GF50mm lens on sale for $499 and I jumped on it.
So far, it is AMAZING. I've been shooting Canon 5D3 since it came out....and I love the GFX. I have adapted my Canon EF glass to the GFX with good results, even auto focus works, etc.
What I find really fun, is that I bought the Metabones Speedbooster adapter/focal reducer and am using my Hasselblad V System (film) glass on the GFX with some really amazing results. Yes, it's manual focus but the focus peaking on the camera helps that, the color is really fun.
I spent a lot of my camera savings for the year on the GFX, so I'm big on adapted lenses and it works VERY well with them, I imagine the GFX50 will do the same.
I will say, however, if you can save a bit more and go for the GFX100...that IBIS alone is worth the price of the ride, especially for 100MP on a large sensor like that.
Good luck, I think ya'll will be happy with any of the GFX line.
The native lenses are amazing too!! I've rented a few....
@@chilecayenne thanks for the input, I appreciate that!
great video, what watch is this if you dnt mind me asking
Hello, may I know the exact name of the body? PhaseOne 645AF, isnt it? thanks....I am looking for one for my lovely P25+....) AFD, AFDII, AFDIII, DF......
1:34.....AFD III.....thanks
PhaseOne AF = AFD III.
Thank you :)
It can take film back?
Yes
Wait, is this a phase one DF+? Which body is this?
Phase One AF. Basically a rebadged Mamiya AFD III.
@@thearchitecturalphotograph2973 ahh… so, what is the absolute best digital back you can get for this body?
@@Ivandotjpeg - Support for all P an P+
- P40+, P65+ requires the Mamiya AFDIII / Phase One AF to have firmware 1.5 or later
- IQ1 and IQ2 CCD backs are not supported after Digital Back firmware 5.10
- Credo 40/60/80 is not supported after Digital Back firmware 2.01
- Credo 50 is not supported
this backs are becoming affordable even for common amateurs....but very little is known about their quality :(
Hope my recently purchased Aptus22 will last for some time...i was simply amazed by its colors and sharpness.
Top man!
Boring
u suck
You may already know about it but they did make a dedicated manual focus screen for this series of cameras, called the type C screen, they obviously don’t make them any more but they come up on eBay from time to time but i used to have on for my AFDii and it worked wonders for focusing manually, I can’t remember if it had a split prism but it might have done. It didn’t affect the AF performance at all just made the finder slightly brighter and much easier for manual focusing. The way i understand it is that modern focusing screens are optimised for lenses with a maximum aperture of 2.8 and the dedicated manual focus one is optimised for lenses with apertures faster than that.
Thanks for the video :)
I’m not sure I did. Thanks very much for the tip!