Courtney Love Opens Up About Kurt Cobain's Final Days
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- In this video i look at Courtney Love's 2023 interview where she opens up about Kurt Cobain's final days. I add my own narration elaborating on Courtney's statements plus adding my own views in my own words.
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All the people around him were her friends, mostly ex boyfriends of hers. Most of the people at the intervention were her management team. She called him several times in rehab and he ignored her. She's given several conflicting interviews on their last conversation. Is she at the Peninsula hotel or at the Ross? She avoids answering specific things. He didn't vanish, he went home and was seen by people staying there. He went to a bar, he went out to eat. He was calling people he knew. the hotel didn't put the call through because she changed the password to her room and he couldn't remember it. Eric Erlandson and Rene Navarette probably know more but have never been questioned. Cali who can't differentiate reality vs. dream yet can remember exactly what video was on MTV when Kurt was in the room with him. Kurt and the doctor claim it was an accident in Rome, I believe them over Ms. World. Show us the Rome note Courtney.
Rome note was destroyed per a lawsuit filed by Courtney against the Washington State Police. She was afraid the note would be foia available and she didn't want any of that.
@@aisle_of_view the note was destroyed because corrupt Sgt. Cameron told her it was damaging to her. That is a cover up. The police protected her.
Fantastic post. Thank you.
And he went to the cinema to see the movie the piano, probably on sunday the 3 rd. Only the next day april 4th remain a mystery. He died april 5th very early in the morning. I don t think that it s a murder at all but i agree, it' s strange that Tom Grant with Dylan Carlson did not went to the green house and just look after Kurt in the house on wedneday april 6th🤔
A curse is formed & building for Courtney... she'll receive zero pity...
Even if she sang the christmas carolls i wouldnt believe a word..
There needs to be a full investigation by professionals with no connection to either Kurt or Courtney. It doesn’t matter what anyone “thinks”, especially fans or haters who never even knew them intimately in their personal lives.
Investigate fully - if anyone other than Kurt is guilty for his death, prosecute them to the fullest extent.
Pretend you’re a jury. Kurt himself handed Dylan cash to buy the weapon which he then stashed, the ammo was left in a cab and returned separately to Kurt’s house. For proof beyond a reasonable doubt, a jury would need to see the evidence that places that shotgun (and ammo, and heroin works) into anyone else’s possession. That evidence doesn’t exist.
Case closed. That’s the reality.
Motive means nothing, physical evidence must prove it. Besides, if we’re talking motive, Courtney had the precise opposite motive of murder when she helped to revive him several times (New York 1992 SNL, New York 1993 Roseland, Excelsior hotel Rome 1994).
@@BradyA1124 was that the same cabbie who Kurt told he had been robbed? Don't think his works were ever even fingerprinted and none of the detectives in the photos are wearing gloves. What we can prove is the absolute destruction and mishandling of the evidence in this case.
@@BradyA1124 No, case not closed & you have no idea what the reality is because you weren’t there when any of those circumstances happened - & you don’t know anything more than any other fan or hater does.
I’m not interested in “pretending I’m a jury” or any other “pretending”. As someone with several relatives in the law enforcement field, I’m interested in a thorough investigation. The field of Forensics has leaped light years ahead in what can be discovered & proven since Cobain’s death back in the 1990’s. Something to note, as you yourself have brought up - is that Courtney was there those three times you listed when Kurt nearly OD’d. All three times Courtney was there. I’d also add that several people close to Kurt have stated that Kurt was done with Courtney & was talking divorce. We all know there would have been a nasty custody battle over Frances, because they both loved her dearly. Is Courtney guilty of having Kurt killed? I don’t know, neither do you.
Therefore, as I posted, there needs to be a thorough investigation. Forensic scientist Dr. Cyril Wecht, who (at the last count that I had heard several months ago) has personally conducted over 21,000 autopsies over his 7-decade career in the field - along with supervising and/or signing off on over 41,000 others, has stated that he cannot remember any case in his entire career involving a highly lethal dose of heroin & a shotgun being used in unison together - he’s stated that an addict wouldn’t be capable of handling a shotgun under such a high dosage - that a large number of them are still found with the needles in their arms because that amount of heroin hits so quickly that they aren’t even capable of pulling the needles out of their arms - much less very neatly tidying up their drug paraphernalia after shooting up & then stretching their arms out far enough to lift a shotgun & aim it accurately before pulling the trigger - & then afterwards laying the shotgun neatly in their arms AFTER killing themselves.
When asked if the Seattle police conducted a sufficient enough investigation before determining Cobain’s death to be a suicide, Wecht’s adamant answer was - & I quote - “No, I do not believe they did. I think they jumped to conclusions & rushed to judgment. They never thought that this should have been a scene that should have been thoroughly handled as a possible homicide. And that resulted in their failure to do a lot of things. You approach a case like this as if it were a homicide. And then the worst that can happen is you may have spent some time unnecessarily, if it proves to be a suicide. But if you start off assuming it’s a suicide, & you do not look for physical evidence - hair, fibers, fingerprints, footprints, piecing everything together, interrogating people & so on then it’s likely you’re going to miss something.”
Any death scene should be treated as a homicide until homicide can be completely ruled out. That way you’ve gone through the motions, followed guidelines & protocols, collected evidence. The Seattle PD didn’t even brush the room for fingerprints. They didn’t look for footprints. They didn’t look for hair follicles. They didn’t test the items that had been touched by Kurt. They didn’t brush the shotgun for fingerprints until 30 days later - AFTER it had been handled by several officers & had smudge marks all over it. They didn’t even notice the damage that had occurred between Cobain’s legs in his private area.
Everything that I’ve stated above is just the beginning of the information that’s been shared of the sickening mishandling of Cobain’s death. There’s much, much more I could list if I had the entire day to do it.
And so, I repeat, a thorough professional investigation needs to be performed concerning Cobain’s death - with today’s advanced investigative skills.
@@BradyA1124 The doctor in Rome who treated Kurt there is on video from the time saying he did not believe it was a suicide attempt.
@@edadick1625 The way the scene was treated was completely normal procedure, you watch far too many detective shows.
No robbery had ever been reported or heard of by anybody.
She was in on it
Maybe when us millennials are in our 80’s it will finally be news - we’ll see the truth of JFK before we ever see the truth of Kurt.
no.
she DID NOT kill him. the guy REALLY did kill himself.
@@blue2134 How are you so confident that you are right and anyone with a different view is completely 100% wrong. What proof do you have that KC killed himself, I’d love to know because we all know we can’t rely on the police or what that woman says?
She knew Kurt was done with her and trying to be done with drugs.....that's all the information anyone needs
actually he wasnt ready to be done with drugs, a handwritten note he wrote days before his death recently went on auction and it practically solidifies the fact that he was too deep in denial with his addiction and couldnt see a life where he got clean and was happy.
Addicts creating interventions.
Well unfortunately for her, her conversations with the PI she hired herself are recorded and available, and things are not how she describes them.
When it comes to Kurt, I actually think a lot of it revolved around the drugs and what happens when the other person doesn’t want to do it anymore. But you’re so far gone that you can’t stop.
if Courtney said it was raining outside, id have to look out the window
Should we believe the words that come out of her mouth?
Depends what you believe about her. I believe the bases of the stuff she says, but definitely think she’s embellishing stuff in her favour.
Many people who have known Courtney - including herself, most likely - come right out and say she's a huge liar. It's gone on all her life but maybe developed some small "cred" in the business when Nirvana realised they could tell journalists almost anything and it would be unquestioningly reported as fact. So it became kind of a game to spin them out on stupid shit.
Absolutely we should.
I believe her, even though I am also well aware of the evidence that at the very least raises a very big question mark over whether he could have shot himself.
I personally believe there's a third possibility where he overdosed, and that was the actual cause of death, especially given that he had almost died 4 weeks previously from an overdose, and been in a coma, and been suffering from exhaustion and bronchitis leading up to that.
And Courtney is saying here that he had all these ulcers in his stomach which I had not heard before.
So even taking into account that he may still have had a tolerance to heroin, it seems quite plausible that such a massive dose would have been enough to kill him, because his body was weakened.
And given that he described himself as being passive aggressive, it may not have even been an intentional suicide but a passive one, where he just decided to shoot up, and not care about the consequences.
I think the motive for staging that he shot himself was to deflect attention away from whoever supplied him with the lethal dose of heroin.
I can't imagine any drug dealer would welcome being put in the spotlight and held accountable for contributing to his death by supplying the lethal dose, which might well have even carried a prison sentence.
So Courtney might have had a part in a cover up, but I do not believe that she had him murdered.
It seemed more like she was desperate to try to save his life, and my heart actually goes out to her. Losing someone is hard enough in itself but to actually be accused of having caused their death on top of that, and then blaming herself because of the intervention.
Side eye to Eric, who brought the hot shot that killed Kristen Pfaff 2 months later, and who was sent by Courtney to “check on” Kurt.
I also think he overdosed as evidenced by the syringe mark on his forearm, and those who were doing drugs with him tried to save him and when they couldn't the rest was staged.
@@BradyA1124 I agree with your point that Courtney saved him on more than one occasion, plus organized the intervention. If she wanted him dead she not have done so.
There's also the fact that there were PLENTLY of think Kurt did to himself, NOT involving Love. Idiots who still think she murdered him need to go outside and touch grass. He left behind a grieving wife and a baby behind and y'all STILL think she killed him. You are all disgusting. You don't have to like Love but Jesus stop with blaming her for everything in your life.
@@Merlina7how she saved him? In Rome i believe she put her receipt tablets in his bottle, at 3 a.m. she called the producer and somebody else to say that Kurt was died and just in 3 hours later she called to ambulance -around 6 a.m. very strange behaviour, and in full make with red lipstick. When Kurt saw her he wrote "Get f...d "
She was friends with too many of the PD. She filed a missing persons report under his mom's name.
Who. Names of those members of the police department she was close to.
That woman was the final ruin for Kurt...She inherated everything,Money, copyright, houses, that was important for her....l still see a lot of dark shades in Kurt's death, you know your husband was in such physical and mental state and you leave him alone to sleep with Corgan?
And she’s still on the rampage trying to find another rich husband according to recent interviews 🙄
She didn’t inherit everything. It was split between Krist & Dave (as one per the will), and Frances… yet Frances had to wait until she was 18 to receive a lot of it, then got the remaining millions when she turned 30 (I think that was two years ago?)
Give me one reason to trust C*urtney Love.
Notice the picture where Kurt won’t touch her shoulder
Imagine she has been playing a character for 30 years to play cover-up. 😂
CL tells some truth and then Lies!
still think she did had something to do with it. always have.
Why give her air time?
Why did she save him in Rome after the overdose and how would she have known he was buying a gun on route to rehab to then escaping rehab before the days of his death , she is suspect and they definitely had a toxic relationship but there are enough signs of him being unstable and unhappy , not making great decisions being on drugs , as there are possibilities that she had him murdered .
Am surprised nobody mentions the fact Courtney admitted to thinking about having an affair when she was in London while Kurt was on that final European tour. She said he found out and freaked out. She then went to Rome to see him and not long afterwards he made that first suicide attempt. Imagine how he must have felt? Already missing his wife and daughter, then hears his wife wanted to cheat on him😱
I’m sorry but I just can’t trust anything she says, her story changes every time she talks about it
Dont want to hear anything from her! Except "I need a lawyer"
The wrong girfriend effect
Its never easy. Life isnt easy. We each need to know who created us and why. No one IS responsible 4 someone elses DEEP PAIN AND DARKNESS THAT ONLY GOD HIMSELF can heal. For those who survived...its not too late.
GOD LOVED THE WORLD SO MUCH THAT GE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON...
Its NOT religion (religion SUCKS) its a personal relationship (a heart to heart through HIS WORD and your heart). Forgive... generational curses are real...forgive so the future is well! One person at a time! One family at a time! One community at a time! One nation at a time! The spul needs to be satisfied not sold!
true, I saw the son in my toilet once. It was a good holy sh*t.
She should blame herself,the hero dies and the fool survives,wow that's a fu statement
I personally don’t think Courtney was in on it however she didn’t help kurts cause. She clearly has a lot of personal issues of her own
She broke that man 😞😞😞evil woman
Thumbnail picture - so which one is Courtney? 😂😂😂
I never believed her and I never ever will. Sorry, Not sorry. She wanted to be Nancy Spoungen and she was Nancy only in reverse. Nancy killed herself IMO or was killed by the dealer while Sid was asleep. Courtney was nothing but a groupie she wanted to be The girl with The Most Cake."
I admit I liked Hole before Kurt died after Kurt " killed himself"
Afterwards there was just too much Contavesey and, the foresics still don't make sense to me. Again, IMO
I was alive when it happened and after all these years all the documentaries and interviews I've watched I stand by my opinion. I feel for Francise Bean and if she reads this... I'm sorry to her. 😢 Courtney is still her mom.
I’ve been suspicious since day 1 and I feel so bad for Frances Bean. She is so beautiful and talented and deserved to know her dad and to have a better mother than Courtney.
@@rue-for-you-music Let's say "better mothering". The beautiful and sensitive character Frances has become has a lot to do with Courtney's love and care. Undoubtedly it was a wildly tough childhood and adolescence for Frances but we can all be grateful that she also got a lot of time, love and support with her Cobain family. It takes a village to raise any child.
Don't believe a word she says
Anyone with a brain cell doesn't!
What did she do to you
@@The_rest_of_usA lot of people believe she murdered Kurt. I personally don’t believe that, but it does have some backup.
It’s a pretty interesting way to retire.
“ justice for Kurt “ was a website about the mysterious precedences behind Kurt’s death made by none other than Courtney Love’s own private investigator. Did Courtney directly kill Kurt? Unlikely. Did Courtney pull some strings so that Kurt’s contacts in Seattle would set him up for failure - most likely.
@gracesedan4759 i dont think she did but i think she knows who did i mean just look at whats coming out now and even the shit about mj even if we dont know the motives the industry is darker then most will admit
Well no one told me about her, the way she lied. Well no one told me about her, though they all tried. Now it's to late to say your sorry how would I know why should I care. Please don't bother trying to find her; she's not there!
🤐🤑🤑🤑🤑
She is guilty
courtney you were his ulcer and you are the reason he isn't here anymore ty we wish he would of nvr of met you he would of been still alive with francis today and you wouldn't of got shit
Killed himself... went over this case for 15 years and for the first 3 years I sat on the fence with the possibility he was murdered, All Tom Grants evidence is complete nonsense, it's all explainable.. Think there was one piece I hard trouble with but the toxicology etc was just text book ruling. Being an ex addict it isn't far fetched or impossible for someone to do the dose cobain had in his system. Heroin becomes as boring as breathing air (kurts own words)when you continously do it and especially the funds Kurt had he'd have been able to do stupid amounts. Bottom line is people don't wanna believe that someone they admire and love so much would leave the world like that and it's easier to believe a different ending. Cue Courtney love and she fits in just perfect to take the wrap. As for Tom Grant... Very devious and some what clever as to what he's done. But I'm afraid as sad as it is Kurt did end his own life.
Explain his fingers print's not on the gun bub👍
you're wrong.
watch autopsy the last hours of kurt cobain on dailymotion
the whole too much heroin in his system was explained fully by a top english medical pathologist dr jason payne james, he says that a chronic heroin user builds up deposits in the body and after death it begins to break down into the blood stream and tissue thus the high amount detected in his body.
Kurt now is immortalised because hes forever 27 and believe me when i say hes probably the most talented artist ive ever witnessed (same bracket as lennon and mccartney) but it was a suicide. like all genius's he had his flaws, he just wasnt equipped to deal with this world and all the struggles that come with it RIP KURT
When I was a young Kurt worshipper, I was convinced she was in on his murder. The older I get and the more I understand human nature, I now know that she didn’t. Forget all the conspiracy theories…our hero was deeply tortured. Michael Stipe, Pat Smear, Eric E. etc would speak up for their friend if they had even the slightest inkling he didn’t kill himself.
They knew him. You that are reading this didn’t. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
Please tell us why TG’s evidence is nonsense? How is it all explainable? I’m genuinely interested in why you believe that and your reasons. When I first looked into this I was on the fence and actually felt sorry for Courtney and quite liked her. Now, however, after watching and reading lots of articles and interviews with various different people involved, I am 100% convinced that she paid someone to do it.
After all these years, people still want to act like they knew either Kurt or Courtney personally or were there or experienced their lives with them? Stuuuuupid. Come on. It's been 30 years now. It doesn't matter what you do or don't believe, you weren't there. The fact is, he escaped the rehab he was in with Courtney in Cali. That's a fact. He flew to Washington and hid out for a couple days until his end. Also a fact. Sad. Horrible. A shame. But also nothing anyone can ever do about it. No amount of investigation or speculation will change he's gone. He's gone. Appreciate the music he left and let the rest go
Stop saying "that's a fact" when the two things you claim as fact are WRONG. Total NOT facts. Courtney was in NOT in a rehab place with Kurt. They were in LA at the same time, but he was at the Exodus rehab centre and Courtney allegedly was doing her own personal "rehab" in a suite at the luxurious Peninsula Hotel. Descriptions of her demeanour in this time indicate she was taking drugs, but who cares? Hypocrisy isn't a crime.
Kurt did not "hide out" in Washington. The first night back he went to his own home. Pretty normal thing to do. Tried to speak to so-called manny/housekeeper there, Cali de Wit (junkie ex bf of Courtney) and his teenage girlfriend Jessica Hopper, by coming into their room early in the morning to let them know he was home. By their own admission, they barely woke and therefore barely spoke to him. Then in the next few days, he ate out with a group of friends and covered the table's bill by cheque because Courtney had frozen his credit and bank cards. He visited various friends and hung out at Capitol Hill. Then he died and his body was not found for three days. Maybe this is when you think he was "hiding out"?
I agree, all the speculations will not change the fact that he’s no longer with us. The ONLY person who deserves the truth is his daughter. If she still talks to her mother, that means she does not believe in those theories. Krist and Dave also don’t seem to believe in those speculations.
If the key people involved in this tragedy don’t have doubts, why fans insist that he was murdered by Courtney?
I’m not saying Courtney is a good person. She was definitely a bad influence for Kurt and she did lots of crazy stuff, but Kurt chose to marry her and it was his decision.
The rehab was voluntary, he didn't "escape" he was allowed to leave. He was not with Courtney, he wasn't taking her phone calls, they were in separate establishments. He flew to his home in Washington where he was seen by people there, he was calling friends, and he went to a bar. If you are going to state "facts" at least get them correct. If he was killed that actually does need to be looked into.
It’s only a fact in the way that Courtney said those things. Just because she said what happened in his last days doesn’t mean it’s true.
@@littlejackrussell01092 None of us knows what happened, but Krist did say that Kurt became really weird after the Rome incident. The last few weeks before Kurt passed away, he wasn’t even talking to Krist and Dave. Krist had a big fight with Kurt while driving him to the airport. The fact is Kurt was in a terrible mental and emotional state. Imagine being out of a coma and a month later, you are forced by your label to continue your tour with crazy tour dates. He probably didn’t feel healthy enough to continue the tour, but he had no choice due to the contracts, etc.
I can only imagine how Kurt felt those last few weeks: I’m in mental and physical pain, my friendships and marriage are falling apart, I hate my fame and the career that led to all this, I just want everything to end and be in a peaceful place…
Based on all these facts, I’m not surprised that Kurt did what he did.
I don’t really understand why people think he was murdered. He was clearly struggling on his last days. He tried to kill himself in Rome, stopped talking to the other bandmates, had his friend by him a shotgun, an intervention was staged, he fought Krist and tried to jump out of the car on the highway on the way to rehab, he ESCAPED rehab, Courtney love was literally in rehab at the time, nobody saw him for days before his death, and was generally really struggling with addiction and depression. He was very obviously struggling, guys. I really think it was suicide, however Courtney definitely worsened his condition and contributed to his death, which could be murder in a way, but I don’t think she is the one who pulled the trigger. Just my opinion, though, so don’t get mad in the replies. (I know he had a lot of heroin in his system, but he had a very high tolerance, so someone like Kurt could still have pulled the trigger.)
There are a lot of things that are mysterious about his death, sure, but it still was probably suicide with a few suspicious circumstances.
When I was a young Kurt worshipper, I was convinced she was in on his murder. The older I get and the more I understand human nature, I now know that she didn’t. Forget all the conspiracy theories…our hero was deeply tortured. Michael Stipe, Pat Smear, Eric E. etc would speak up for their friend if they had even the slightest inkling he didn’t kill himself.
They knew him. You that are reading this didn’t. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
@@NateDiggy33 As a fellow young Kurt worshipper, yes, he was a very troubled man who had always struggled with his mental health and it just became too much. Knowing how he was in the days leading up to his suicide, from what his friends and family have said, there’s no doubt in my mind he did it.
These are all things she has said, and all of you are choosing to believe what she told the media back then and now. Come on guys!
@@littlejackrussell01092 These are all things Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic, Pat Smear, and many others close to Kurt have said. Not just Courtney.
No she didn’t pull the trigger!
Don’t judge Cortney love she has to live life knowing that her
husband died and she could have helped she blames herself poor Cortney love
It’s very sad.
Yeah poor Courtney got away with having him 'suicided' and getting away with it and getting 100s of millions in the process..
@@fightwithhope8499 she obviously didn’t get him murdered or tell him to kill himself because if she did she would get less money anyway and let’s not forget were talking about a man that had a family a daughter and friends who also was a heroin addict and had numerous mental problems and your blaming his wife for his suicide that’s delusional and a disgusting thing to say and she might not be the worlds best person but she’s still a person so don’t blame everything that happened on her
@@The_rest_of_usHow would she get less money by him being alive.. He was filing for divorce and had a pre-nup, she wouldn't have gotten shit.. Threaten a junkies drug supply and I guarantee you they will take you out.. THe only thing she cared about was drugs, even her daughter ended up having restraining order against her, she is a psychopath..
this is ai, and it’s so obvious come on.
You mean the script? I didn't think the voice sounded like AI at all! 🤔
@@BugRib her voice sounds wayyyy to glitchy
Are you serious??? Catch a fucking grip
When I was a young Kurt worshipper, I was convinced she was in on his murder. The older I get and the more I understand human nature, I now know that she didn’t. Forget all the conspiracy theories…our hero was deeply tortured. Michael Stipe, Pat Smear, Eric E. etc would speak up for their friend if they had even the slightest inkling he didn’t kill himself.
They knew him. You that are reading this didn’t. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
Courtney love irrelevant... Very little talent.. famous due to kurt.. kurt talented.. rock legend
You should probably lock comments on a post like this... there's so little intelligence out there when it comes to Cobain's suicide. Same old b.s. reheated and served up like it's the 'truth'.
Bunch of crazy conspiracy theories here wow
I know right
Not crazy it’s most likely true that he was murdered unfortunately
@@30MinToNewOrleans what’s more likely, that a mentally ill man with a drug addiction took his own life. Or his crazy wife masterminded the perfect murder conspiracy?
@@30MinToNewOrleans I honestly don’t think she’s capable of masterminding the perfect murder, sorry
@@Tygor9000that's why she hired someone to. And tried to get others before finding someone who did.
And guess what happens when people speak out about Courtney trying to hire them? They're found dead too. What a surprise.
She hired a PI who didn't think to check his house for him? Riggghht.
💩 😂💩
Yall are so uninformed if you think he was murdered. Courtney hsd nothing to do with his death. Only Kurt killed Kurt😢
I don’t believe that Courtney had anything to do with Kurt’s death. However, she seems very messed up and should have filed for divorce. The whole thing disgusts and saddens me all at the same time!
@@crosstatt7441 She didn't have to file for divorce, he already told their lawyer to draw up the papers and they had a pre-nup. No, she had nothing to do with it!
@@fightwithhope8499 I see. Thank you for sharing that.
@@crosstatt7441Did you watch 'soaked in bleach"? Very eye opening...
Oh also, why was Courtney found lying in 5 seperate occasions to people surrounding the circumstances with Kurt's death??
Lies she’s all lies