State Capture - How the Guptas Stole a Country

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  • @IntotheShadows
    @IntotheShadows  Місяць тому +40

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    • @Thebusridesme
      @Thebusridesme Місяць тому

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    • @shanbannan17
      @shanbannan17 Місяць тому

      ye democrats going after there opponent no conflict there rofl what a clown show the left is

    • @BrotherTshepang
      @BrotherTshepang Місяць тому +1

      Bro,😂😂
      It's pronounced Toolee Madonsela

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому

      Zuma remains untouchable.

    • @InquisitiveUniverse
      @InquisitiveUniverse 27 днів тому

      Hi, could you do one on Ahmed Bola Tinubu and Chagoury? Nigeria is currently being captured by these elements.

  • @Oceloteater
    @Oceloteater Місяць тому +406

    Irish living in South Africa here, regular viewer of the channel. Zuma and the Guptas are infamous here, SA is still very much trying to recover from this corruption today.

    • @TheVoicelessViews
      @TheVoicelessViews 16 днів тому

      Rubbish, the country is being stolen right now by the Ruperts and Oppenheimers through their puppet boy, President Ramaphosa. Go back to Ireland if you're going to be stupid enough to belive lie.s

    • @MrJBA79
      @MrJBA79 14 днів тому +9

      We have a saying here, "thank Guptas it's Friday".

    • @InstigatorDJ
      @InstigatorDJ 13 днів тому +14

      Its still going on bro. JHB City council owe Eskom 5Bn and they are threatening to turn off the entire Johannesburg!!

    • @Oceloteater
      @Oceloteater 13 днів тому +6

      @@InstigatorDJ no way! We were doing so well with Loadshedding too 😭

    • @arceyes
      @arceyes 13 днів тому +3

      The title of the video should be How a Country was Sold

  • @ToriTrak
    @ToriTrak Місяць тому +701

    I thought the video would be about Chandragupta before clicking on it 🤣

    • @hamzaferoz6162
      @hamzaferoz6162 27 днів тому +25

      Maurya or the Discount one?

    • @abhisekdas435
      @abhisekdas435 27 днів тому +69

      I was thinking about the Gupta Dynasty, but I know this infamous case

    • @ken225941
      @ken225941 26 днів тому +8

      Same😂

    • @srinathmazaa
      @srinathmazaa 26 днів тому +30

      Same..same. I came here expecting a history class on Chandragupta Maurya and an economy lesson on Arthashastra.

    • @WinstonMaraj-gx8sm
      @WinstonMaraj-gx8sm 25 днів тому +3

      MEEEEE TOOLOOO😂😂😂😂😂

  • @annnn740
    @annnn740 19 днів тому +158

    I am a South African and watching this from a different point of view is staggering. Now do the fall of ESKOM, our electricity provider next!

    • @lnx01
      @lnx01 16 днів тому +1

      The Guptas also contributed to the fall of Eskom (along with Transnet, SAA, countless others.) Fissionable material went missing from Pelindaba for f***'s sake...

    • @johankotze42
      @johankotze42 15 днів тому +11

      @IntotheShadows After ESCOM, you can look at the railways...

    • @earthsecho4770
      @earthsecho4770 15 днів тому +11

      After Transnet , look at the fall of the water supply infrastructure currently collapsing.

    • @rustyvworld
      @rustyvworld 14 днів тому +4

      So many issues

    • @MrJBA79
      @MrJBA79 14 днів тому +7

      .. an article was published this morning that outlines the outstanding money owed to Eskom by the City of Johannesburg and City Power which will result in power outages mid-December. They're owed R6.5 billion.. but there is a legal battle underway as to the validity of that debt.

  • @utofbu
    @utofbu Місяць тому +308

    When I saw this title, I thought we were talking about 490 CE on the Indian subcontinent. Thx for the education! I had no idea about this stuff.

    • @avinavpal1403
      @avinavpal1403 25 днів тому +14

      Gupta empire

    • @sandyCP
      @sandyCP 19 днів тому +10

      Same here! I was bracing myself for a controversial historical commentary 😂

    • @Hegde-
      @Hegde- 19 днів тому

      metoo😂😂

    • @Fruitloopz13
      @Fruitloopz13 19 днів тому

      ​@sandyCP and thats exactly what you got😅

    • @2596mr
      @2596mr 18 днів тому +3

      @@sandyCP hah yeah. lol.. i was ready to get defensive about the gupta empire lol

  • @AlexS-uo7uk
    @AlexS-uo7uk Місяць тому +442

    The zuma and gupta saga always infuriates me. It shows how the legal system and loyal south africans tried time and again to protect the country, but corruption and greedy politicians hamstrung every effort. The Scorpions had flaws, but between them and the Public Protector we at least had SOMETHING to have faith in for a while. No longer
    Oh, and a shout out to our media at the time. They fought, exposed and investigated a lot of this nonsense so well. To no avail, but they did their duty.

    • @chrismusonza5387
      @chrismusonza5387 Місяць тому +16

      They were bad but feel like their shenanigans were blown out of proportion there’s still families in South Africa who have and still continue to capture the state

    • @yethir2609
      @yethir2609 Місяць тому

      This is so different from the Indian government where the media actively supports cronies and do not investigate anything at all

    • @reyash4
      @reyash4 26 днів тому

      there's this thing about Indians. from what i've observed, people here don't really respect the rule of law. they feel that their own worldview is superior.

    • @Daniebraids
      @Daniebraids 26 днів тому

      South Africa should just let the whites run the country

    • @orangeninja912
      @orangeninja912 24 дні тому

      Apartheid ensured that the average South African is of less than average intelligence.

  • @tebugomajombozi1197
    @tebugomajombozi1197 18 днів тому +129

    Incredibly, half of our country is in denial that this even happened.

    • @apearce1810
      @apearce1810 13 днів тому +3

      He's using trump-speak. It's all fake news😂😂

    • @vgaggia
      @vgaggia 7 днів тому +4

      @@apearce1810 It's all very real stuff that happened.

    • @donnyboy5589
      @donnyboy5589 7 днів тому +4

      Only Zulus tbf

    • @tebugomajombozi1197
      @tebugomajombozi1197 7 днів тому

      @donnyboy5589 Hay maarn. We don't say such things.

    • @tebugomajombozi1197
      @tebugomajombozi1197 7 днів тому

      @@apearce1810 He constantly asks what has he done. Like dude, read the many charges you're charged with!

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому +115

    Keep in mind that Ramaphosa was the deputy president while this all went down.

    • @bobronsons5780
      @bobronsons5780 13 днів тому +2

      South Africa's current president

    • @AkaliciousZA
      @AkaliciousZA 10 днів тому +1

      Ramaphosa was not the president. There is a huge difference. Deputy president in South Africa reports to the president just like ministers.

    • @TheYORK21
      @TheYORK21 3 дні тому

      He was in charge of organizing these dodgy meetings and is soley responsible for the Eskom current state. @AkaliciousZA

    • @sonicboom4732
      @sonicboom4732 3 дні тому

      @@AkaliciousZA DUDE ! The EFF broke into his place and stole MILLIONS of Dollars in cash that he was stashing in sofas and in pillows! LOOK ARROUND YOU! It's all going to SH#@$! Our country has had the "junk status" for the whole gen-Z generation! Power went up 137% in the last 7 years with an estimated 65% increase withing the next two years. Fuel has doubled in just 3 years. Salaries... have increased by 2-5% annually. but that's only for the people who were employed at all, so roughly 40% of the population and excluding the people who lost their jobs due to c0^ib. They've had to take massive pay cuts and start over. Not even middle class can survive this for much longer as the majority pay 75+% of their monthly income to debt. the rest (65+%) have started debt counseling. that means, ANY more inflation and rising costs at all, Will stoke public unrest. This time, it's gonna get real bad.
      We're screwed

    • @hvr1874
      @hvr1874 День тому +1

      ​@@AkaliciousZAyes of course he and the other ANC higher ups are totally innocent, didn't know of anything.
      Just their investments continue to grow and they kept LITERAL couches and matrass full cash on their private residences. But totally innocent.

  • @njabulombuyazi5132
    @njabulombuyazi5132 Місяць тому +87

    Thuli Madonsela was brave during this entire saga

    • @ernststrauss5997
      @ernststrauss5997 Місяць тому +5

      She should run for president

    • @grootmanstudios1480
      @grootmanstudios1480 20 днів тому +1

      @@ernststrauss5997😢 unfortunately the our political landscape won’t allow that

    • @PeterJohnJnb
      @PeterJohnJnb 17 днів тому +6

      Sorely missed, every day! That woman has bigger balls than most of the men in the government at that time.....at this time for that matter.

  • @SamanthaHarebottle
    @SamanthaHarebottle Місяць тому +135

    Bang on, I live in south africa and can see how state capture has affected everyone but especially the poor even today.

    • @Kevin-rz8vx
      @Kevin-rz8vx 29 днів тому +4

      The most amazing part is that WMC is still being cited and blamed today after we all know it was a disinformation campaign. That's how potent it was

    • @nps7742
      @nps7742 26 днів тому

      In every country rich people have influence in the government with the rich country will fall , 4 or 5 companies in usa have more than trillion capital they control everything they fund certain candidates and lobby for certain ideas, people in 3rd world countries are still don't understand it white man propaganda already manipulated their thinking.

    • @xndr_mrw
      @xndr_mrw 19 днів тому

      ​@@Kevin-rz8vx WMC?

  • @Bakholise-215
    @Bakholise-215 Місяць тому +172

    Even Ramaphosa has been caught red handed with undeclared funds. He is trying to crush the case now...

    • @tebugomajombozi1197
      @tebugomajombozi1197 18 днів тому +1

      Whatever, as long as you acknowledge that Zuma sold us out and crippled the country.

    • @Bakholise-215
      @Bakholise-215 18 днів тому +4

      @tebugomajombozi1197 oh definitely. Hence that MK party is never going to get my vote.

    • @JimEckhardt
      @JimEckhardt 15 днів тому

      "trying" ... The case never even got out the gates. The entire legal system is compromised since before the Zuma administration already. Without law enforcement and a legal system to support it, the ANC can simply do whatever they want. ...we won't even mention all their buddies.

  • @jimboleaner
    @jimboleaner 23 дні тому +21

    A very good summation. It’s worth noting that the current president of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa , has been sitting within and influencing all ANC senior decision making bodies since 1991. The ANC has to date presided over at least $75 billion of corrupt gains (from taxpayers money) for its cadres and business associates. ‘State capture’ goes way beyond Jacob Zuma and corruption is still entrenched across all levels of government. Most of the ill-gotten gains now sit in Dubai and other offshore centers.

  • @FudgeTheGoddess
    @FudgeTheGoddess 18 днів тому +25

    I'm South African and I live in KwaZulu-Natal in the capital and it's interesting to watch this story broken down on this channel because people in our province really rallied behind ,fought for and proclaimed this man's innocence 😅our town would get flooded by people from all over the country whenever he was in town

    • @DollyMolefe
      @DollyMolefe 11 днів тому

      Yebo Ntombi basiqeda labantu

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA Місяць тому +64

    The Shaik story is interesting, in that he did not spend any time in prison, being in a prison hospital, and released on parole as he was "deathly ill", and to this day is still alive, and living in his house, only venturing out to go to pray, play golf, and still is getting money from government contracts still, via his holding companies.

  • @abhisekdas435
    @abhisekdas435 27 днів тому +145

    At the time of the Gupta dynasty the Indian subcontinent used to hold nearly 35% of the world economy, such a fall of Gupta's name

    • @bigbulk688
      @bigbulk688 18 днів тому +22

      As a South African who share the same last name, I had to drop it, officially, just to avoid the relentless sneer/mock/suggestions of association.

    • @RohitSharma-oh8qm
      @RohitSharma-oh8qm 18 днів тому +11

      @@bigbulk688 damn

    • @SenpaiMusick
      @SenpaiMusick 15 днів тому +14

      And these guptas are not related to those guptas at all

    • @Dheeraj-y4f
      @Dheeraj-y4f 15 днів тому +5

      golden age- samudragupta,chandragupts,kumaragupta,skandagupta fierce warriors

    • @AD-gu6sr
      @AD-gu6sr 8 днів тому

      The evidence for tht statement is held by the London Stock exchange i would presume..

  • @ErnestJHobbs
    @ErnestJHobbs Місяць тому +113

    Best thing about having a Saffa writer is getting to see all this info relevant to SA laid out so beautifully

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 Місяць тому +7

      Psst, I don't know if you know, but SA is also shorthand for Sx Assault or Abuse on YT.
      The context makes it clear here but could make for an odd comment elsewhere.

    • @ErnestJHobbs
      @ErnestJHobbs Місяць тому +18

      @andiward7068 very aware thanks, I generally don't throw the abbreviation around on topics not related to South Africa

    • @Michael-tk9mx
      @Michael-tk9mx Місяць тому +21

      ​@andiward7068 psst
      SA is south africa and in SA we call it rape

    • @jond661
      @jond661 Місяць тому

      No I don't know any other use for it I immediately thought casual criminalist style S.A. can you let me know the other use in this context.? Oh wait. South Africa.😅. Can't spell south Africa without S.A.​@@andiward7068

    • @Fruitloopz13
      @Fruitloopz13 19 днів тому

      ​@@Michael-tk9mx dont we call it Gender based violence or something now?

  • @stephaniejooste3879
    @stephaniejooste3879 Місяць тому +105

    My husband and I have been directly impacted by "JZ and the Guptas" as we both worked/work for a large South African Arms manufacturer that was literally sunk by their greed and corruption.

    • @luthandondarala6270
      @luthandondarala6270 Місяць тому +19

      I assume it's Denel. You don't have to answer

    • @philipkoekemoer4705
      @philipkoekemoer4705 Місяць тому +11

      Worked for Denel in the 90's. Was fun, but glad I got out of denel and the country

    • @niel19861
      @niel19861 Місяць тому

      @@luthandondarala6270 You can't help but feel sad when a company capable of making something as world-class as the Rooivalk with all its talented engineers can be gutted by the talentless, shameless politician.

    • @devonduplessis5778
      @devonduplessis5778 16 днів тому +2

      Simon should cover Denel on Mega Projects. Sorry for our loss 💔

    • @banelemakhaye7372
      @banelemakhaye7372 15 днів тому

      ​@@devonduplessis5778that's very interesting. I wish I could hear more about that.
      I'm a musician

  • @decommonifyable
    @decommonifyable 22 дні тому +21

    The funny thing is Zuma is admired by many in South Africa. They admire his corruption/criminality. It's a strange culture, they don't seem to recognize that they're stealing from them.

    • @sylvialocker1653
      @sylvialocker1653 17 днів тому +1

      The shame is not doing the crime but being caught

    • @seandewaal7980
      @seandewaal7980 5 днів тому +1

      Like trump in the States

    • @zile8869
      @zile8869 5 днів тому

      ​@@seandewaal7980 bro you must be on drugs or something. Trump is no where near the corruption level of Zuma.

    • @dukeofvoid6483
      @dukeofvoid6483 7 годин тому

      ​@@seandewaal7980Is that why the MIC has dragged him through the courts and tried to assassinate him on two occasions?

  • @Sushi_219
    @Sushi_219 Місяць тому +54

    Oh I hate how the allegations get worse everytime a new report is published yet the accused are walking freely. Human greed at its finest.

  • @kdZA8209
    @kdZA8209 Місяць тому +34

    As long as KPMG, PWC, Bain, McKinsey, etc, are allowed to make money from destroying people's lives then it doesn't matter where in the universe corruption happens

    • @AbubakarAlmultani
      @AbubakarAlmultani 25 днів тому +1

      Please elaborate more

    • @hydromic2518
      @hydromic2518 25 днів тому

      @@AbubakarAlmultaniKPMG and Bain were implicated in state capture and made millions because of it. I think both are now banned from working with the government

    • @abooga8
      @abooga8 24 дні тому +3

      Despicable actions from "accounting" firms that should not have allowed this

    • @TheOneDono
      @TheOneDono 14 днів тому +2

      Add SAP and Bombardier. This is not even the full list.

  • @illuminaartjie
    @illuminaartjie 3 дні тому +2

    As a South African I applaud both the research, and the delivery.

  • @rorythomson8763
    @rorythomson8763 25 днів тому +38

    Just a point of pronunciation: The name Thuli relies on a hard T sound and a silent H thus rendering the name Tuli Too-lee. Likewise Thabo is Tabo Taa-bo. Mbeki is mm-bekee with no vowels between the M and the rest of the name.

    • @echoed1337
      @echoed1337 13 днів тому +1

      woops typed out pretty much this before scrolling down to see it

    • @rorythomson8763
      @rorythomson8763 13 днів тому +3

      @@echoed1337 We stand in a privileged position where we communicate with people of other cultures and are exposed to how they talk. Sadly Simon does not have the same privilege. I am glad we can only help correct little things like this while watching his excellent series.

    • @bobronsons5780
      @bobronsons5780 13 днів тому

      The foreigners will never try... stop wasting your time. The US has never understood phonetics

    • @douglasclerk2764
      @douglasclerk2764 13 днів тому +1

      It's actually an 'aspirated' t.

    • @alexbennie
      @alexbennie 10 днів тому +1

      I got the idea that he was purposefully mispronouncing the names!
      You can't correct pronunciation, after the 20th mispronounced name. He's trolling.

  • @manueldeomsysanta2909
    @manueldeomsysanta2909 Місяць тому +257

    Biographies and TopTenz will never be the same without Simon Whistler himself

    • @nataliemason4656
      @nataliemason4656 Місяць тому +14

      I say that every week!

    • @jaydenwarnke641
      @jaydenwarnke641 Місяць тому +6

      Currently binging through the Simon backlog. Never watched the channel, but now it's neat

    • @Crioten
      @Crioten Місяць тому +8

      It's weird, but still good

    • @deividweiss
      @deividweiss Місяць тому +44

      Damn right, I dropped both channels after he left

    • @jodiecrosby7819
      @jodiecrosby7819 Місяць тому +11

      I left after Karl, the dude that followed him sounds horrible.

  • @mj.ray0898
    @mj.ray0898 Місяць тому +63

    1:14 to skip the ad

  • @happyteaspoon5436
    @happyteaspoon5436 Місяць тому +9

    Nice to see a comprehensive overview of it all. It really puts things in perspective.

  • @amsterdamandco
    @amsterdamandco Місяць тому +19

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING AGES FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE GUPTAS! DANKIE!!

  • @BvzSA
    @BvzSA Місяць тому +156

    Ahh, dear South Africa, only being mentioned when something's gone pear-shaped. There really is no place like home 😅
    I do appreciate how thorough the coverage of the subject matter is (some pronunciation issues aside).

    • @RSAMommacyndi
      @RSAMommacyndi Місяць тому +4

      I was hoping that Motlanthe would make an appearance :)

    • @Cec9e13
      @Cec9e13 Місяць тому +6

      "Gone pear-shaped"? I must Google this phrase now.

    • @ivanasukjadic1423
      @ivanasukjadic1423 Місяць тому +6

      Seems it is only rugby that is functioning properly, but only the handful of players benefit from that

    • @happyfox711
      @happyfox711 Місяць тому +6

      Funny how the 3 brothers look like discarded saddam hussein stand in's from the 90's. A little too pearshaped perhaps, but still fit for shaping
      🤣🤣

  • @amb163
    @amb163 Місяць тому +60

    Zuma was such a cancer to his country. They deserve better.

    • @tristandahl114
      @tristandahl114 Місяць тому

      Zuma is* a cancer to our country.

    • @hlulani
      @hlulani Місяць тому

      It's lie & propaganda the state is captured by those who are in power now

    • @BaneofBots
      @BaneofBots 26 днів тому +1

      But they won't find any in their own country.
      Mandela was unfortunately a one-off. Once he was out, SA devolved back into tribalism, which European rule had tried so hard to end.
      They should learn from the mistakes of both the Europeans and their own native rule and combine the best aspects of both.
      But they can't seem to comprehend that.
      Still, could be worse.
      Could be Zimbabwe.

  • @musicbysoneni
    @musicbysoneni Місяць тому +39

    Jacob Zuma didn't finish 3rd grade????
    Wow, well you haven't heard the current president of Zimbabwe finished a 4-year Law Degree in just 1 year. And he did that in a foreign country of course😂😂😂

    • @kingtiger5040
      @kingtiger5040 Місяць тому +11

      Absolute buffoons.
      The entire lot of them.

    • @swapnil6080
      @swapnil6080 26 днів тому

      same is with indian pm modi, he is 4th grade fail bafoon and has forged university degrees called MA in "all political science"

    • @BaneofBots
      @BaneofBots 26 днів тому +6

      @@kingtiger5040 Exactly why I still refer to 'Zimbabwe' as Rhodesia. Should have never changed.

    • @kingtiger5040
      @kingtiger5040 26 днів тому +6

      @@BaneofBots It definitely should have changed.

    • @RayBarK1
      @RayBarK1 12 днів тому +2

      @@BaneofBotsokay. I call it by the name we know. We know it as a disgusting racist hole in the dirt, who’s money is a running joke. Zimbabwe

  • @thabangmoleko2726
    @thabangmoleko2726 Місяць тому +59

    Simon, you are a legend. I have watched all your videos. Unfortunately, my country is now being discussed in a poor light. Keep up the sound, informative work.

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      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
      Mark 1.15
      15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
      2 Peter 3:9
      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
      Hebrews 11:6
      6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
      Jesus

  • @kntcele
    @kntcele Місяць тому +9

    Well done Team. This is so accurate. Research must have been extra. I'm very impressed. Keep up the good work

  • @dbodbdbodb7174
    @dbodbdbodb7174 Місяць тому +13

    As a South African, I appreciate you shining light on this, but I believe this video is to watered down and PC, to explain the whole extent of the saga, you even missed my favorite part of the story, "The Fire Pool". Anyway, can you do a unwatered down video about, NI, the troubles, and NI and I relationship today after Airstrip One did F-Xit.

  • @silvaswan
    @silvaswan 28 днів тому +7

    Technically Zuma was officially the 4th President.
    Kgalema Motlanthe was the 3rd President of the Republic after Mbeki resigned in 2008. He was president for Roughly 6 Months before Zuma took Power.

  • @xoliswamphuti1320
    @xoliswamphuti1320 20 днів тому +3

    I am so happy you did a video on a part of our history. Thank you. Not many people know the implications of how Zuma's administrations affected our country for a decade after he left office, and even right now, we are still suffering from those corrupt decisions. Right now, we face one of the world's most unstable energy crisis, probably more than anyone. Thank you for doing this video and bringing light to such issues ❤ we need people like you

  • @robertscrimgeour3511
    @robertscrimgeour3511 8 днів тому +1

    Glad to see channels outside of South Africa speaking about this.
    For future reference, Zulu names that have 'th' are not pronounced the way you would in english. Essentially, the 'h' is silent and therefore being a 'tuh' sound.

  • @stephanieterreblanche9470
    @stephanieterreblanche9470 Місяць тому +12

    There's no place like home...there's no place like home....Oh wait, nope, Guptas own that too. Thanks Simon! It's sad to see my country in the news only for bad stuff, but the truth has to out.

  • @splashafrica
    @splashafrica 25 днів тому +2

    Half a year ago i wondered why none of the big youtubers tried a proper deep dive on state capture it reads better then any movie script I've ever seen but I kind of knew what the problem is: 1) there is simply too much to cover 1.1) the public enquiry took forever I'm glad Simon finally got to it 2) south african news is kind off obscure for a foreign audience

  • @reggiejohnson6521
    @reggiejohnson6521 Місяць тому +30

    This video should have started with "Ini the beninging"

    • @luthandondarala6270
      @luthandondarala6270 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Stormlucy111
      @Stormlucy111 14 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂 you said that right....Genesis as it never begun

    • @detdet3871
      @detdet3871 13 днів тому +3

      its not beninging,it is bingen,bignin,bin,bin,eish I dont know.

    • @poppingbubblewrap-t3x
      @poppingbubblewrap-t3x 13 днів тому +2

      "In the beginining... there was no fire-pool at Nkandla. But two and million eleventy thousand seven Rand sorted that out."

  • @floatcloud9
    @floatcloud9 15 днів тому +2

    to Simon and the team thank yo for making this video in explaining the "lost years" of South Africa

  • @georgenaidoo9553
    @georgenaidoo9553 Місяць тому +6

    As. South African , thanks for covering this👌🏻

  • @Verita1975
    @Verita1975 Місяць тому +14

    The scary thing (as a South African) is that there is no reason any country cannot be “captured”. I am a citizen of 2 other “ first world countries “ and there is no reason that those countries cannot also be captured ( in fact I would suggest that many already are). At least South Africans took action in the election … None of us expect any “ criminal “ actions but we at least have learnt NEVER to trust a Government again. The economy and Rand have rebounded … things are not as they should be but they are better. Problem in the first world is that people still believe their governments are there to serve them … they are not … the pain is still to come.

    • @hydromic2518
      @hydromic2518 25 днів тому +1

      Corruption stems far deeper than people know. OCCRP does great work in covering as much as they can though

    • @yourlocalit1701
      @yourlocalit1701 17 днів тому

      Corruption is a sign of something much worse.

  • @technewseveryweek8332
    @technewseveryweek8332 29 днів тому +8

    And now people want Zuma back to fight "white supremacy"

  • @Awe-vc6de
    @Awe-vc6de Місяць тому +13

    As much as I would like to believe that the Gupta’s and Zuma were the problem (and now they are gone), it’s not true. Unfortunately, it is the South African people who are the problem. At a fundamental level, a large portion of the South African population simply don’t care about the damage that is being done. If they did care they would vote for ethical political parties and politicians (they do exist). But they don’t. They complain about the issues, bemoan the crime and electricity problems, protest the corruption that takes place etc. But when the population as a whole has an opportunity to change the direction of the country at the ballot box, they show their true colours and side with ineptitude, corrupt politicians, and lawlessness. Zuma and the Gupta’s are the symptom, but the South African people are the ultimate cause of their own problems. Just like an alcoholic can only get sober when they recognise their addiction, South Africa will only improve when the people start to take accountability for their own shortcomings individually and start to make decisions that are actually in the best long term interests of themselves, their families, and their communities. Until the majority of people of South Africa start to live in a civic and productive way, this mess will continue. I truly hope that this can happen in my lifetime, but the odds aren’t good.

  • @AnimeShinigami13
    @AnimeShinigami13 Місяць тому +10

    Why can't more government officials make their time in office about service? It's so tiresome and annoying to keep hearing about them neglecting their country and just generally using things and people till they break then throwing them away.

  • @TheLovelyTraveler
    @TheLovelyTraveler 17 днів тому +2

    Just for future reference, 'th' in African SA languages is pronounced 'tuh' when followed by a 'u' so phonetically, Thuli is 'tuh-lee'. When followed by an 'a' it's 'tah', so Thabo is pronounced 'tah-bow'. In Afrikaans, like Theron, it 'teh' so it's 'teh-ron'. Great video.

  • @jurgenmostert7370
    @jurgenmostert7370 Місяць тому +5

    Hi Simon, you rightly pointed out that Zuma failed the job seeking people of SA. However, during his time in office there were scandals in the education system. School books being dumped in rivers and not delivered to schools.
    Local schools, in my area, sat 6 months of the school year with no books to work with. So in my opinion, Zuma has failed those kids even MORE!
    Then again one needs to bare in mind. Ramaphosa was second in line to Zuma. So he knew exactly what was going on and should be charged as well for state capture.
    The ANC is rotten to its core. Only if they the EFF and the MK disapaer form SA politics we have a future in this country.

    • @flipster7285
      @flipster7285 16 днів тому

      They don't need to disappear. We just need a government that actually functions and does not take nonsense from those political parties. The problem is this: too many politicians in the anc, eff and mk have too many skeletons in their closets, and the comrades know about them all.

  • @kambrose1549
    @kambrose1549 13 днів тому +1

    A really good summary . I guess when literally daily there is a new corruption case exposed here, it would be impossible to do more than a summary!

  • @PoshanMind-v7x
    @PoshanMind-v7x Місяць тому +100

    I hope we all know that it doesn't matter who is in the 'top job' because this is a systemic problem - greed. We have allowed many of our economic sectors, to take advantage of the American people. It's disgusting and frightening for the future of our country. My husband and I will be retiring in the next two years n another country. We are absolutely worried that SSI will no longer be funded. we'll have to rely on his pension, a 403 (b) and a very prolific Investment account with my Tracy Britt Cool Consulting my FA. Our national debt is bloating and expanding every month. Our government needs to get spending under control and cut the federal budget.

    • @ClemensGoermer
      @ClemensGoermer Місяць тому +1

      I'm 56 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.

    • @TonyPantoja-m3h
      @TonyPantoja-m3h Місяць тому +1

      I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I'd suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me, I had my share of ups and downs when I first started looking for a consistent passive income so I hired an expert advisor for aid, and following her advice, I poured $30k in value stocks and digital assets, Up to 200k so far and pretty sure I'm ready for whatever comes.

    • @RamseyAlaqel-d2u
      @RamseyAlaqel-d2u Місяць тому

      In the 80's my Dad worked a modest job, Mom stayed at home and raised the kids, and they lived a nice middle class lifestyle including owning a home. Nowadays both I and my partner works and can barely afford to make ends meet. Soon the kids and family dog will need to work to keep this household going. It's the destruction of the American dream right before our eyes.

    • @VernesaGunz-e9k
      @VernesaGunz-e9k Місяць тому

      If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation

    • @Joyce-x7i
      @Joyce-x7i Місяць тому

      I went from no money to Invest with to busting my A** off on Uber eats for four months to raise about $20k to start trading with Tracy Britt Cool Consulting. I am at $128k right now and LOVING that you have to bring this up here

  • @katkaboodle2698
    @katkaboodle2698 4 дні тому +1

    Great recap of the whole mess. It was a very frustrating time for us South Africans. And we definitely still feel the damage done today.

  • @bongholio82
    @bongholio82 Місяць тому +13

    I suspect this video will go as well as the farm murders video….there is absolute no way a 20 min video could begin to even scratch the surface of this toic.

  • @GdnMaW
    @GdnMaW 15 днів тому +1

    You missed the part where Zuma was sentenced to 15 months in prison for refusing to testify at the Zondo Commission after being ordered by the court to do so. He served 2 months of his prison sentence, after which he was released on medical parole. Great summary, though! Loved the video.

  • @74wrighty
    @74wrighty Місяць тому +13

    No wonder South Africa can't keep the lights on.

    • @spheleleNgubane-i4w
      @spheleleNgubane-i4w Місяць тому +1

      The light's have been on for the entire year.

    • @marcelsmith6452
      @marcelsmith6452 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@spheleleNgubane-i4w like that is an achievement?😂😂😂 that is literally the government's job

    • @spheleleNgubane-i4w
      @spheleleNgubane-i4w Місяць тому +6

      @@marcelsmith6452 It's an achievement for South Africa because since 2008 there's been load shedding in the country and not once has there been electricity for so long. This does not make the government perfect though i still don't think the current leaders should lead.

  • @hlavutheen3my
    @hlavutheen3my 13 днів тому +1

    The way he pronounces “Thuli Madonsela” 🤣🤣🤣 made my year.

    • @g-lani
      @g-lani 7 днів тому

      It's Thabo Mbeki for me. 😂😂😂

  • @viktormutua8534
    @viktormutua8534 Місяць тому +66

    This is exactly what is happening in Kenya rn. State corporations being leased out to an Indian company, Adani group, for periods like 30yrs. Whoever heard of selling your own airport to a company known for it's corruption scandals.

    • @garronfish8227
      @garronfish8227 Місяць тому +1

      There is a similar story in South Africa where all the rights to mine natural gas(.?) had been secretly sold. The sell was only found out when the government wanted to sell the rights and found that they had already been sold😅

    • @DuckGoat-mr9tu
      @DuckGoat-mr9tu Місяць тому +14

      Countries with low GDP tend to often make deals with either private corporations or countries. As long as the government making the deal with a foreign entity isn't corrupt it can be beneficial in creating jobs and wealth. But sadly everyone is out to fill their pockets when they are in politics.

    • @DanielMwangi-mp7wg
      @DanielMwangi-mp7wg Місяць тому +7

      We're truly cooked as a country. What makes it worse is that the Treasury CS declared that "more Adani type deals are preferred by these crooks." State capture not even for the highest bidder any more, just who will give the politicians a bugger cut.

    • @IanWHachi
      @IanWHachi Місяць тому

      @@garronfish8227 Were these rights given to TotalEnergies by any chance?

    • @thechosenone1533
      @thechosenone1533 Місяць тому +18

      Th Adanis did the same shit in India. Whenever they wanted to buy an airport or a port, the owners just happened to be investigated by govt agencies and were forced to sell. Just a coincidence but the Prime Minister is very close to the Adanis.

  • @benjaminaguilera8097
    @benjaminaguilera8097 Місяць тому +3

    I hope one day it comes to light the scandal of Chavismo. Venezuela lost aprox $3Tn during his presidency, and another $1-2Tn during Maduro. Chavez’s bodyguard alone was convicted of $1Bn in the US.

  • @ThomsoyaWires-mb3wk
    @ThomsoyaWires-mb3wk Місяць тому +4

    What amazing analysis well researched .

  • @lethuntuli
    @lethuntuli Місяць тому +3

    Just a minor correction, Thuli Madonsela was the Public Protector, not the Public Prosecutor. The public prosecutor was captured, too😢❤SA

  • @petervanheerden2133
    @petervanheerden2133 Місяць тому +35

    As a 22 year old South African this is when I truly decided that this country has no future.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 Місяць тому +3

      just move to the Cape, you can have a great life here

    • @petervanheerden2133
      @petervanheerden2133 Місяць тому

      @@lm_b5080 it costs a fortune and I'm planning on moving to either Europe or the UAE when I'm done studying law

    • @tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017
      @tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@lm_b5080 "bye bye South Africa, hello Cape Town"😂😂

    • @BlazingStudios
      @BlazingStudios Місяць тому

      Zuma and trump are both corrupt and bumbling failures while undermining the democracy of the country they were elected to lead.
      Its not much better in other places sadly because people fall for populists and vote against their own self-interest around the world.

    • @dustyjackson7584
      @dustyjackson7584 25 днів тому

      40 years, Life Esidemeni was the trigger for me.

  • @refilwemokoene2922
    @refilwemokoene2922 Місяць тому +24

    My fellow South Africans... We meet here again.

    • @teeletsetse445
      @teeletsetse445 Місяць тому +1

      I owe my being to the hills and the valleys, the mountains and the glades, the rivers, the deserts, the
      trees, the flowers, the seas and the ever-changing seasons that define the face of our native land.

  • @wijn_za
    @wijn_za Місяць тому +31

    Locally we refer to this as Guptagate. As Simon pointed out for us lol

    • @calebmatthews1993
      @calebmatthews1993 25 днів тому +2

      Nah we call it state capture lol. Never heard of guptagate

  • @OfficialAngwenyiBrian
    @OfficialAngwenyiBrian Місяць тому +10

    This guy is everywhere, sometimes I feel like I'm in a loop

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Місяць тому +2

      He'll say any old horsesh for $5.
      And has.

  • @ZannaKatoka
    @ZannaKatoka Місяць тому +4

    great reporting Simon, the only jarring thing (as a South Afriican) is the incorrect pronunciations of the names which could have easily been googled. Otherwise excellent reporting as usual

  • @well_art
    @well_art 25 днів тому +2

    There was a Gupta empire in india which was the golden age of India and Guptas were really really good at business they increased trades with europe middle east china etc as Gupta empire used to constitute 30% of world gdp.

  • @almighty3946
    @almighty3946 Місяць тому +13

    The Guptas are snooping on my internet history. Oh fuck!!!

  • @abigailfeldman8665
    @abigailfeldman8665 18 днів тому +1

    As a South African I’ve never clicked on a video fast enough

  • @delaneycloete5920
    @delaneycloete5920 25 днів тому +3

    The writer of this episode could have added that Zuma was sent to jail and then released on medical parole, so he is now legally unable to become a member of parliament due to his criminal record.

  • @michellemisfit6755
    @michellemisfit6755 8 днів тому

    THANK YOU SIMON!!! Soo many have no idea how bad it's here because of this.

  • @Taakabron211
    @Taakabron211 Місяць тому +8

    1:51 "From 1919 'til 2000"...wow that's a really long time.

    • @SilentTraveller21
      @SilentTraveller21 Місяць тому +1

      I think he meant 1990

    • @Taakabron211
      @Taakabron211 Місяць тому +4

      @@SilentTraveller21 sarcasm went right over your head

    • @juanitalouw3958
      @juanitalouw3958 Місяць тому +2

      @@Taakabron211 And it seems the definition of sarcasm flew right over your head 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Taakabron211
      @Taakabron211 Місяць тому +3

      @@juanitalouw3958 please explain then'?

    • @Taakabron211
      @Taakabron211 Місяць тому +1

      @@juanitalouw3958 ????? Yeah exactly you're just yapping.

  • @ryanwhittal6246
    @ryanwhittal6246 12 днів тому

    Well done. As a South African, I can say that there is still a lot of positive sentiment around the Government of National Unity :)

  • @joeledwards6587
    @joeledwards6587 22 дні тому +4

    Hi Simon, Just a couple quick corrections on the pronunciation, the h in Thuli isn't really pronounced so it's more like Tuli (think "tool" like Tool-ie but said quickly so as to not over-emphasize the double-o) and Gupta is also pronounced similarly (think Goopta) Thabo as well the h is silent :)

    • @xndr_mrw
      @xndr_mrw 19 днів тому

      And how do we pronounce Joel? (Think Jul, Jool, Jewel, Johel, Juel)

  • @ecomandurban7183
    @ecomandurban7183 18 днів тому +1

    Simon very well researched and presented

  • @shiftymcgee9359
    @shiftymcgee9359 Місяць тому +39

    4:30 an investigative group named The Scorpions? Their motto better be “rock you like a hurricane.”
    Edit: the legal group was disbanded? That’s a shame. There will be “no one like you.”

  • @nicolavanrhyn1726
    @nicolavanrhyn1726 11 днів тому

    Another South African checking in and yes... this chapter is really, really horrendous. I'm glad I at least took part in the huge 'Zuma must fall' protests. We were absolutely furious about this.

  • @leerenae313
    @leerenae313 25 днів тому +4

    In South Africa an "h' after a consonant is usually silent 🙂 Thanks for covering this🙌

  • @couch_potato1914
    @couch_potato1914 15 днів тому

    south african here! Thanks for the informative video

  • @praveenb9048
    @praveenb9048 28 днів тому +4

    A modern Gupta Empire in Africa... wow. Complete with the inevitable collapse.

  • @dreadnaughticus
    @dreadnaughticus 14 днів тому +1

    I lived through all of this and it was a really wild ride

  • @lelouche812
    @lelouche812 Місяць тому +10

    Can you cover how the British systematically divided and looted countries too? Would be really cool.

    • @buhlebenkosixozwa
      @buhlebenkosixozwa 26 днів тому +1

      its been talked over and documented millions of times tyini tiza

    • @naruvimama
      @naruvimama 26 днів тому

      ​@@buhlebenkosixozwausually quite whitewashed

  • @johannes6791
    @johannes6791 17 днів тому +1

    South African here. People are still voting for the party that sold the country to the Guptas. People might still be poor, but they vote for the people keeping them there.

  • @-Katastrophe
    @-Katastrophe Місяць тому +14

    Pretty sure the Guptas couldn't be any worse than the ANC, they're pretty bad.

  • @tarrynharbour2907
    @tarrynharbour2907 27 днів тому +1

    Well this was a fun trip down memory lane 😅🙈

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 Місяць тому +4

    Brilliant video

  • @jakeswiehahn880
    @jakeswiehahn880 6 днів тому

    Well researched Simon. Our economy still suffers from the legacy of the Guptas and Zuma.

  • @SG003
    @SG003 28 днів тому +3

    I thought this video was about Gupta empire

  • @scottrobinson3281
    @scottrobinson3281 18 днів тому +2

    Quite an accurate account. Zuma and those like him have immature and juvenile mentalities, which require instant gratification. Zuma was led by the nose by Schabir Shaik and the Guptas with promises of riches. Not mentioned were the July 2021 "Zuma riots". Zuma was sentenced to 15 months jail in June 2021 by the Constitutional Court for contempt for defying its order to appear at the State Capture Inquiry. In July, thousands of people, mainly in his province of KZN, went on the rampage, burning and looting stores. The police were caught flat-footed and could not contain the rioters. Private security companies and armed civilians stepped into the breach, guarding businesses and property and over 300 people were killed. I don't think it made much news internationally. SA has really been infested by a giant criminal enterprise.

  • @eggsngritstn
    @eggsngritstn Місяць тому +5

    Such is the tale of the majority of Sub-Saharan Africa. Corruption is the bane of developing nations.

  • @InstigatorDJ
    @InstigatorDJ 13 днів тому

    To date, not even one person implicated in this, has faced any charges. Its treason.

  • @sibongakonkedludla9540
    @sibongakonkedludla9540 Місяць тому +18

    It's embarrassing how South Africa craziness has made it international, like I've been a fan of the UA-cam Simon Whistler multiverse for sometime now but this feels personal. But than again his writer is a white fellow South African so this tracks

    • @tamfuwing1
      @tamfuwing1 Місяць тому +10

      The writer's skin colour is relevant how?

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 Місяць тому

      Should have stopped at international, now you're making a fool of yourself by being blatantly racist.

    • @XXXkazeXXX
      @XXXkazeXXX Місяць тому

      If you replace white with black and it sounds racist, it’s because the original statement is racist.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 Місяць тому

      @@tamfuwing1 white south african expats tend to be reminiscent of a time when the country was functioning like a first world country

  • @robinsonfrancis1498
    @robinsonfrancis1498 Місяць тому +2

    These people were able to do this because they were extraordinarily talented and motivated. Imagine if only they had put all that capabilities they had for the good of others, that country would've been rich. It always baffled me as to why the most capable of us turn out to be corrupt and selfish.

  • @lukemarlowe6592
    @lukemarlowe6592 Місяць тому +40

    Imagine being that rich and still being named doo doo

    • @charmaintrout174
      @charmaintrout174 Місяць тому +4

      😂😂😂😂 thanks 😊

    • @spheleleNgubane-i4w
      @spheleleNgubane-i4w Місяць тому +4

      So thinking that the name "Duduzani" might have a meaning is hard?

    • @angiehemp4295
      @angiehemp4295 29 днів тому

      I can't stand him or his twin....

    • @BaneofBots
      @BaneofBots 26 днів тому +1

      @@spheleleNgubane-i4w No. It's just funny in the english language.
      Reading something as a joke is hard for you though, clearly.

  • @pushpindersingh1819
    @pushpindersingh1819 3 дні тому

    A similar marriage happened recently in India when the Jamnagar airport was converted from military to international airport for the guests of a big business family.

  • @Tenohekabanzai
    @Tenohekabanzai 29 днів тому +5

    Based baniya 🔥

  • @realghoststories1210
    @realghoststories1210 10 днів тому +1

    20:54 I have to correct you here. Zuma has been to court and found guilty during the COVID times. It was during that time that a bunch of looters took to the streets in Natal. They looted a bunch of shopping centres and ammunition and weapons at Durban harbour. Zuma was released from prison on health issues, thanks to the ANC, before he even set foot in prison.

  • @thinadlamini4671
    @thinadlamini4671 Місяць тому +4

    🤦🏾‍♀️... Yah neh the Zuptas (Jacob Zuma and the Guptas) truly did a number on South Africa.

  • @sylviaarena6777
    @sylviaarena6777 3 дні тому +1

    Excellent breakdown of the Gupta/Zuma state capture.
    Now Zuma has the MK party and is gaining strength! Can you believe the foolishness of the public!

  • @bodyloverz30
    @bodyloverz30 Місяць тому +4

    A one-party state, what could possibly go wrong?

  • @Verita1975
    @Verita1975 Місяць тому +1

    The scary thing (as a South African) is that there is no reason any country cannot be “captured”. I am a citizen of 2 other “ first world countries “ and there is no reason that those countries cannot also be captured ( in fact I would suggest that many already are)

  • @rinzo2009
    @rinzo2009 Місяць тому +9

    Simon Sensei, if you thought JZ and the Guptas were bad news, kindly beam your torchlight on Nigeria and you would get a shocker!
    Then again, how did emigrants that came in at the tail-end of apartheid making a living off shoe sales become so powerful that no one sneezed in South Africa without their permission? Unless the shoe sales was simply a front........

  • @catlife331
    @catlife331 8 днів тому

    holy shit i never expected to see a video like this on youtube ever

  • @Rick-k7m
    @Rick-k7m Місяць тому +25

    When it comes to scamming, it's always the same people.

    • @Adi-bo5do
      @Adi-bo5do Місяць тому +12

      Cause western and Chinese corporations haven’t done this to other African countries??

    • @devamjani8041
      @devamjani8041 28 днів тому

      Yep, its the south Africans, the guptas left India in 1993 and have been south african or UAE nationals ever since. They started all of their businesses and scams in south africa only. Blame your people, for electing corrupt ones.

    • @nananou1687
      @nananou1687 27 днів тому

      You do know that justifies nothing. Also, the original comment is racist and merits no response, less so any response not addressing the racism but resorting to whataboutism. And if anything, India right now is way more crony than South Africa​@@Adi-bo5do