Yngwie's Picking Philosophy
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2023
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Yngwie Malmsteen's Economy & Sweep Picking
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I just preordered it, I can't wait for it to come out, your videos made me want so much to learn Yngwie's style in depth !
Сколько живу на свете; не думал, что восхищаться будут когда- нибудь медиаторной техникой. Думал я, что только как Сергей Орехов или Томми эммануель или Стенли Джордан могут удивлять
А вообще меня хмыров Илья зовут, или khmirov ilya, - где то так, в одноклассниках. Там я играю много. Хотяя наверно пальцевую игру не выкладывал.: Не студийный звук
When you reach that "aha" moment after so many years!... Brilliant!!
I could never play Strat guitars simply because the volume pot was always in my way and I ended up intermittently turning the volume down. Yngwie sort of arched his hand over the pot almost like cupping it which came in useful for doing his swelling sounds with a pingpong delay. He did this so beautifully on the Live In Japan 1985 as part of his guitar solo extravaganza. This was the time when Yngwie had refined his technique so exquisitely to the point unreal perfection.
I was developing strict alt picking however I noticed Yngwie was not using strict alt but rather doing two downstrokes, pulloffs, two notes per string followed by 3, utilising hammers, more pulloffs or to say a mixture of many techniques all working together flawlessly. At the time i had never heard of Economy picking or understood its benefits ect. Yngwie had come across all of this as a solution to the limitations strict alt picking presents, seemingly all by himself which is remarkable. The other remarkable thing was all this worked so well with his violin like tone, which sounded so clear, not like a distortion but more like a sweet overdrive and very clean and low output. Low strings sounded fat and round and articulation was perfect.
I play Strats. I have the same problem as you and all my strats have the same mod: get rid of Tone knob 2, move Tone knob 1 in its place, move Volume knob where Tone knob 1 was, then rewire middle pick up to be affected my Tone knob 1, and optionally also the bridge pick up (though usually I leave it so I can toggle between tone knob on/off when switching to bridge).
My best guitar playing is still on Strats, anything else I've ever played has made it harder for me to play so... I keep playing Strats and always mod my Strats this way.
I had a Strat and encountered the same issue. I moved the vlume down and eliminated a tone. I dont use tone anyway. Then I switched to Charvels because the knob was placed better but their knobs were in the way of the 3 way selector, So I still ended up moving the volume to tone. lol I like the Charvels thoough, much better.
I totally agree with the volume pot situation. Once played a strat that had volume pot so close, and I was basically fading out every song. But that's not the case with my strat, I didn't have any problems with my own strat. I get so used to it, especially in live situations. I'll do my soundcheck with my pots at 7-7.5, so if I need a little boost then I just increase it.
I have the same problem and I've got huge hands 😂
Now this should have been in that REH video that I spent countless hours practicing along to in my early teens. Great insight mate!
Yngwie's right hand is a thing of beauty.
Good stuff. Chris brooks has a great book on this called “neoclassical speed strategies for guitar”
Cheers! Yeah he’s incredible ol’ Chris. I found his Trilogy and Viking videos most helpful and instructive.
Very good lesson , Thanks 🙏 subbed.
I found I had to hold the pick flat to get the right tone for heavy riffs, but slanting for shred work.
This was really cool. Very informative and practical.
I wish there was something like this for Michael Romeo. It is always helpful to see other people's approaches to what you are working on. Thanks!!
michael romeo released his own VHS called "guitar chapter" like 25 years ago or so though
but i'll agree he's not the best teacher by a long shot
@@dutchdykefinger M Romeo advanced so much after that instructional video, Both his Rhythm and Lead playing. After that video Symphony X recorded : "Twilight in Olympus"
"V"
" The Odyssey"
"Paradise Lost" "Iconoclast"....
Lots of cool stuff on those Albums. Maybe a TrueFire course by Michael would be Best.
@@carlospellot2426 My favorite band.. but we dont talk about Iconoclast lol. The latest, Underworld, is fuckin great tho. A bit more of a modern approach to their music but the last track "Legend" is so gatdamn good. Romeo is a guitar god among us mere mortals.
@@carlospellot2426 And I know you didn't ask, but Awakenings is a track I have skipped over through the years and have come to appreciate recently as one of the best shows of all their talent. Best examples of Romeo- all three solos. Perfection.
Brilliant mate. You should do a video series with Yngwie solos / licks. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
Cheers Christian, appreciate the vote of confidence! Planning on putting something together soon 😎
Nice lick and true to Maestro's style! It reminds me of the solo in Fire In The Sky.
I saw him play back in the 90's when he was open for AC/DC . I had front row seats and could watch his hands up close .
I couldn't believe how fast he was playing without ever really dropping his pinky .
As I was taught scales , you used all four fingers for that . He would drop it occasionally but, not to the point you'd think it was effecting his speed .
He seemed to do more with three fingers excluding the pinky .
Wow! More of these please.
Fabulous work!🙌
Anyone else notice the Addams family theme?
😂😂😂
No
Yes
Oh yes lol. On a real note.....well many notes I wish I had UA-cam growing up I had to buy VHS tapes to learn
Amazing lesson mate. Thanks for this, you capture the essence of his playing.... Yngwie is my favorite guitarist ever. SUBSCRIBED!👍
brilliant show and tell. thanks Tom
Cheers Scott!
Awesome lick thank you 😊
Good video and information. I like how you presented the lick note by note and explained the pick slants and the reasoning .
Yngwie has such a unique and hodge podge picking technique, its nice to see people preserve the tradition and shed light on it in the post Troy Grady era.
I think the biggest takeway from the pickslanting seminar for most people was that many different approaches can be utilized to play fast and we have so many options to pursue what feels natural to us. Its a great time to be guitar players!
Man! After more than 20 years playing guitar, now I can see how this beautiful lick is played. I could never figure out that pattern on the pick. Thank you!
This is such a wonderful lesson. It's been a breakthrough for me, thank you for this video!
Awesome...great tone!
Love this video man!! Keep uploading Yngwie style stuff!! Cheers
Thanks! Will do!
Great lesson, thanks.
Great stuff!
Great video!
Will definitely keep an eye on all that you put out for us!
New sub from Waterloo, Quebec!
Awesome stuff, Thanks For the lessons
Man, u deserve way more attention, well done bro
I appreciate it 🎸🤘😎
Awesome video! Thank you so much! 🎉
Thank you master ❤🙏👍
Belíssima explicação...muitíssimo agradecido...
this is the best metaphor for sweep picking i've ever heard
Please keep doing these kinds of videos that focus on picking. Love how you broke down each section along with which way to move the pick going to the other sections. Trying this lick out now piece by piece and it’s coming along nicely. Definitely not lightspeed yet but it does feel comfortable. PLEASE keep these coming. Lots of them! Haha. Maybe some Buckethead techniques too 🔥
Thank you so much for the breakdown on guitar pick motions. I have looked at many vids on guitarist on Yngwie's or Paul Gilbert's style for many years and it wasn't working or flowing in my picking. You broken it down and that I can understand how you put it down. Thank you
Cool, i will view your vids 👍 🎸.
Amazing instruction. I'm geeking out on your channel.
I used that picking style when I first started guitar and my guitar teacher said it was terrible technique. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I used that picking style to this day 😊😊😊
There's tons of bad teachers out there, way more than so called bad techniques.
Yngwie is the best. A genius. A great creator of a new music genre. Thank you for sharing.
Nice video. I think this lick makes an appearance in Now Your Ships Are Burned, among many others of course.
Excellent! That'ts very helpful man. Thank you! You should see Cesario Filho picking techniques (he's doing it almost identical to Yngwie). He's amazing too. Long live YJM!!!
I agree - Cesario is incredible. He’s clearly done his woodshedding 😅 thanks for watching 🙏
Yeah, he's a beast
This lick is goofy and creepy, mysterious and spooky..
I’m at least 2 of those things
awsome thank's for share!!!!!
I used to do this when I was first teaching myself, but in the 3 lessons I had, I was made to keep it strict with alternate picking. Now I'm wondering if a learner could even do fast alternate picking well if they start off doing economy picking ?
I'm definitely giving this a go. Great vid.
I know Yngwie is also great at alternate picking in any case.
Totally dig what ya talkin' 'bout. Thank you.
Glad it’s helpful 🎸😎🤘
Awesome Pal!
Holy crap!! I didn't know Yngwie uses his middle and ring finger like that. I've been trying for decades to get my pinky and ring finger to work together like that and to this day still struggle like hell. But the middle and ring finger?? Man I can blaze using those but thought everyone used the other fingers so felt like I was cheating lol great to know!! Made my day 🤩
Cool dude thanks man learning a new technique here and there these little techniques really go a long ways you can do a 1000 things with them
Very interesting concepts. You should explore more on Yngwie.
도움이 되는 정말 좋은 레슨영상입니다 Thank you Tom!
This is essentially the most useful bit of that Troy Grady Cracking The Code series, but free and without the faff
Tq, Suhu. I very need this tricks for lesson.
This is a very good breakdown 💚 I’ve just subscribed with a cool duckface in YJM style by hit the button!
These guys are absolute musical virtuosos. The rest of us mortal must accept that we have limits
Nja. It all depends on the amount of hours of blood and sweat you are willing to spend on your guitar.
If you are a strict alternate picker,there are always other pick approaches to sort out things.for example inside,outside picking.
this is exactly what paul gilbert did
his strict alt picking regime worked for him
and yes on odd numbers you'll have to switch around every 2nd time from inside and outside depending on the amount of stirngs used
if you play 3 notes around over 2 stringsd, and go from the E upstroke to A downstroke, then A upstroke, the next E in laternate picking will then be everything inversed everytime around too
ofcourse not always needed when you can hammer those extra notes but with strict picking everything on alt, you're going to have to invert your movements every alternation on odd number sequences.
but PG was very good at string skipping too, cant really sweep your way out of string skips and make them even remotely sound as crisp, when you have serious string skipping game, then milk that 3 note per string shit where only 1 is picked the rest hammered or pulled, it opens up a lot of extra capability in alternate picking in terms of sounding both fast and strongly accentuated
but yeah, having those big old hands does help for the 3 note per string thing on the lower registers, my hands have a hard time doing a fret 3-5-7 quickly because eitehr my pinky is too close to my ring finger if i do the 5 with my ring, or my pinky is too far away when i use my middle finger for 5 stretch
so i just semi-slide the 3 to the 5 so i can make that 7 easy, kind of smiuggling the one in between that's least accentuated :')
at least, on a stratocaster, which is a bit bigger scale length than a les paul, which does matter ( i can't bar a Emaj from fret 12 on a LP, can barely still on a strat) but i think most metal guitars do use the jumo frets like strats too unless specified otherwise
I actually like the sounds of both styles.
I feel a rising force ❤
I developed this same technique in the 80s before anybody knew what to call it, and long before UA-cam.
Legit - Awesome man😎🤘🎸
Great Man !! Do you have some explaind how to make pattern six notes per string like ynguie stacatto piking? thank you
Hello sir! I'm from Sabah, North Borneo. Thanks for the economy picking. Yngwie is still a top Viking here 😄
Always will be king of the Vikings 👑
More videos about Malmsteen please!
salut . merci beaucoup monsieur
This is great stuff, thank you.
Would Definitely love more of these lick breakdowns. It’s crazy how much quicker you can play this the way you showed- i would have just brute force alternate picked it and wouldnt be as smooth/fast
Cheers! I'll make sure to do plenty more cool 😎
I was EXACTLY the same, for about 18 years of my playing. Economy picking was a foreign evil that I avoided like the plague, but turns out it's not that hard to learn, and once you've learned it, it's a life changer!
@@TomShreds Same here...I tended to use it for 3 note arpeggios but only recently for licks like these and far out...been missing out big time over my playing career!
Ah! Beautiful! Thanks first for the technical part a million times. Also man let's talk about that tone. Tasty!
Cheers! Happy to help. Helix all the way 💪
Great stuff.
This was excellent, Tom - thanks for such a well illustrated vid.
Of note - Yngwie was on Rick Beato recently (I'm sure you saw) and he was pretty critical of sweep picking, claiming he never does so. I took that to mean the full double octave sweeps we've all practiced, and not this very economical technique you're demonstrating. I remember stumbling upon it decades ago (well before the internet and even instructional videos on VHS!) and being completely surprised and a bit weirded out, actually... after all, everyone was going on about 'sweeping', and that was most certainly not.
I wish I'd said 'to hell with it' and kept working on it now.
Watching Yngwie's hands carefully it's clear that he's doing precisely what your showing here and not much else!
Cheers from Toronto!
I saw that too and the impression I get is that Yngwie one day went to see what the sweep picking technique everyone talked about was and saw the traditional 5-6 strings sweeps where the pick only hits one note per string and goes up and down in a single motion. He rarely does that king of thing, and that's why he's so defensive about not doing sweep picking.
What he failed to realise, probably due to not researching enough, is that sweep picking as a term is broadly used to refer to economy picking as well, as it is an integral part of it, which he does all the time.
So he does sweep, and it's a master at it. He simply doesn't understand the terminology and has a limited understanding of the term itself, even though he's a master at it. The reason why is probably because he learned a lot of these things by himself, intuitively and never gave them names, and back then, a lot of these techniques didn't have names. It's a simple misunderstanding of words and its meanings
I saw that too and the impression I get is that Yngwie one day went to see what the sweep picking technique everyone talked about was and saw the traditional 5-6 strings sweeps where the pick only hits one note per string and goes up and down in a single motion. He rarely does that kind of thing, and that's why he's so defensive about not doing sweep picking.
What he failed to realise, probably due to not researching enough, is that sweep picking as a term is broadly used to refer to economy picking as well, as it is an integral part of it, which he does all the time.
So he does sweep, and it's a master at it. He simply doesn't understand the terminology and has a limited understanding of the term itself, even though he's a master at it. The reason why is probably because he learned a lot of these things by himself, intuitively and never gave them names, and back then, a lot of these techniques didn't have names. It's a simple misunderstanding of words and its meanings
🍿 Im checking coz I always been insteresting in learning some good picking advices, I dont got a fast picking style but I ve always beeb comfortable with normal speed. Just wish I was comfy even when going real fast.
noise gate eats end of notes so nice, what do you use for this?
Holy shit dude 😂 Amazing!
Years ago, I will not understand what's happening here. Thanks to Troy Grady dwps techniques
شكرا
Learning so much from this.
Yngwie Doco next!? That’d be a big old juicy affair 😅
@@TomShreds haha..maybe, ya never know I guess.
I would love to learn MALMSTEEN economy picking and the theory behind his song writing
Complimenti from Italy
Wipway Wobsteen????
Thank you a lot for that 😊
You're welcome 😊
I've been playing like this for years (on bass), without knowing it..
I've been trying to alternate-pick-all-notes up and down, very2 hard. Still can't get used to it..
Awesome!
Yngwie said someone told him it looks like he's knitting.
Really? Love it.
There is another player with a very similar name to Wibway Womsteen :)
Great stuff, thanks a lot!! I'll definitely train on this one! One thing I can't figure out is how tight to hold the pick. I also have the Dunlop JYM 1.5 but I'm not comfortable with it, the tip is not pointy enough and it's a mistery how you can go light-speed fast with that one. I'm using the Dunlop Tortex Flow 1.5 with more pointy tip, which seems better for me, but still I can't clear out how tight I should hold the pick. How tight are you holding the pick?
I remember a guitar magazine interview where he got pissed when they said he used sweep picking.Yngwie said he alternated every note even arpeggios .
Yep! I have heard him repeatedly state that he doesn’t sweep. I suspect the issue is that his definition of sweep picking is different to the rest of us! He’s indicated that sweeping is when you go across all 6 strings in one stroke.
Genius!
Excellent breakdown of Wibvai Wobstein's picking style!
Done subcribe. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the great lesson. Can I ask if you are playing at the pointy tip of the pick? It looks like you are almost with the side of the tip of the pick.
I always struggle getting a good sweep going backwards ( high string to lower - descending)
I suspect Yngwie does too, I believe he avoids it entirely these days, but pre accident he did. Recommend upward slanting the pick for the “spreading butter” technique, and being super light 😎🎸
Very informative! Sub earned! You should do some Gus G content. Guy is phenomenal. He has the smoothest righthand alongside Yngwie
Cheers Nick, will check him out 😎🎸
@@TomShreds Definately. A little heads up if you aint heard of him. Was Ozzy's lead guitarist 2009-2017. Has an awesome band called Firewind. Put out a masterpiece instrumental album called Quantum Leap. I think you have the skills to try playing his music.
Am I see right that your strings are so low your pick always hit the pickguard?? Anyway thank you for breaking down the lick, great video!
Cheers! Possibly! 🤘 🎸 😎
Economy Picking!
Please do more videos like these, with tabs !!! thanks
Will do!
Thanks, good stuff! I have the USA 2012 Yngwie strat. Is yours Custom shop because your neck looks a little more yellow, just curious?
Cheers! Mine is actually a warmoth partscaster. Bought to originally have myself a cheaper version of a YJM, but somehow ended up being more expensive 🤔😆
That's funny (I hope), I tried to price out all the pieces and I just got a mint condition used yjm strat, ended up about $3-400 more than parts guitar but no hassle with building. This and my epi Slash LP with the thick baseball bat neck are my favorite guitars. But, once you go scalloped its the way to go imo. I just bought/got the last cheap Fender red yngwie pedal from a guy in Ukraine, all legit, plus I scored years ago a modded to dod gray specs yjm308 pedal for cheap and I just ordered a dover tone pedal to add even more violinesqe tone to yngwies tone. Also yngwie guitar sounds really good with Lovepedal Eternity pedal, anyways, thanks for the videos and yes, you do totally shred, but I'm close behind, just need to quit my job! lol.
解かり易い!
最高の動画をありがとう!
My pleasure! Thanks for your support 🤘 🎸
Awesome! Have you thought about teaching some Eric Johnson? I think your picking technique and teaching style would be perfect for his style.
nice video... what is the strings gauge youre using?
8-46 YJM 😎
Nice lesson. Not my philosophy though. Mine is "always pick in the direction from current pick position to the string". So the 6th note in that lick (13th fret on 2nd string) would be up. And no need to do a pull up to arrange for some pick pattern. You can legato at any point and return to pick: the rule "always pick in the direction from current pick position to the string" will setup things by itself.
Interesting. I recommend you learn this economy picking way, and then compare the two. I wish I’d learnt YJM’s style decades ago!
On the two strings appregios (on the the highest strings), does he mute with the palm or with the fret hand?
Palm I believe but I prefer to try use both 👍🎸
What do you do if you want to pick 10 12 13 on the b string for example and want to go to the g string and pick the 12th fret
Great question. If I understand correctly, if I’m using this style of playing (which I don’t always), then I’d pick down up hammer on, then start the g string with a down. Very much depends on what’s before or after though.
@@TomShreds thx Tom, that’s what I did so I was just making sure
The Adams Family lick
Need trilogy lesson 😅
I heard the more Gold Bracelets you wear, you can pick as fast as Yngwie. 😁
A Rolex and couple of Ferraris reportedly help too 😎🤘🎸
@@TomShreds Incentive to Practice harder, Lol!
Always sweep picking. Never vacuum or mop picking.
😂😂