Well musically Joe Satriani is fantastic but sorry guys he can't pick like Yngwie. To play fast Joe Satriani uses legato and he uses it too much. And Yngwie's picking is like knitting which is really amazing. Yngwie mixes picking with legato and other techniques. So technically Yngwie is the best and nobody could play like Yngwie in the 80s and 90s.
Does Satriani do too many legatos? By that criterion, Allan Holdsworth is worse than Malmsteen? If it's a question of muscle, then the best is James Hetfield. In any case, you forget about others as fast as Malmsteen, such as Paul Gilbert or Michael Angelo Batio.
@@DeborahHammond When Allan Holdsworth was a kid, he wanted to play jazz on saxophone but his father bought him an electric guitar because saxophone is an expensive instrument. So what Allan did he listened to saxophone jazz players and played that music on guitar. And to imitate saxophone soloing on guitar he used the legato technique. So in the early 80s, it was new and nobody could play like Holdsworth. And Joe Satriani uses legato technique to play fast and he can't pick like Yngwie. Even Steve Vai admires Yngwie's picking. Steve Vai says that even when he watches Yngwie play very closely, he can't figure out how Yngwie does it.
@@DeborahHammond Paul Gilbert is a very talented musician but sorry, like Neil DMonte said, he's not in Yngwie's league. Yngwie is like a Paganini on electric guitar. As for Michael Batio, he is a fantastic metal shredder but Yngwie is technically superior I believe. Yngwie's much more flexible whereas Michael Batio plays more mechanically. Yngwie uses economy picking, his right hand barely moves. But Michael Batio is also super fast and amazing, so I would love to see them both playing guitar duels on stage.
Hey guys, the thing is that in 81 when Kirk came to Joe, Joe Satriani had no idea how to play like Yngwie and what techniques he used. Apparently he just showed the harmonic minor scale to Kirk and eventually Kirk had to give up wanting to be Yngwie.
You can be the fastest, most technical, most precise, most skilled guitar player in the world...that doesnt mean you can write a good song that everybody can vibe to.
I can name countless of great songs, riffs and solos Yngwie is worldwide known for....Joe Satriani, Becker, Angelo...they are know for shredding. Yngwie, Van Halen, Rhoads led the way.
A good example would be Mick Mars. He isn't noted as being a shredder, however he has composed songs and solos that made the Crue. Just because you are an exceptional technical player doesn't mean you can write music for the masses.
Hammett fits Metallica just right. It works. Satriani is just great the way he is. No need for anyone to catch up with Yngwie's speed. They all have their own feel and they all write their own songs. No one copies anyone. That's good.
@@josecarlosramolete6109 Dave wasn't fired because he was a bad player. Dave was fired because of his non stop drugs and drinking. Anyone that believes Kirk is 10% the guitarist Dave is hasn't listen to a Megadeth record. Dave is only the 2nd best guitarist in Megadeth and he's way better than Hammett at pretty much everything. It's pretty close between Hetfield and Dave when it comes to rhythm guitar but Dave smokes them both on leads hands down. IMHO. Cheers!
@@robtech341 Yes. I am aware Mustaine was fired because of drugs. What I hate about Mustaine is: he still couldn't get over about being fired from Metallica. He needs to move on already.
@@josecarlosramolete6109 Mustaine plays better, he has perfected his spider technique, Kirk is still recycling his wah wah solos, and as James put it, Kirk seems to lose all his work
But the G3 with Yngwie was the less interesting musically… Yngwie is not the right guy for a G3 his awful style ruined that G3. The one with John Petrucci was way better.
@bobalto I guess that is your opinion. I saw them at State Capitol Theater in D.C. and in Maryland. They couldn't touch Yngwie. Yes, I think they were a little louder than Yngwie. Yngwies tone was warmer and less processed. When all three played, it was difficult hearing individually at times. Satch was the most boring to me. He played standard stuff. His stuff is memorized. Vai and Yngwie "reaches" for their notes. But Yngwie takes lots of chances and improvises more than the other two. He was more active on the stage. A little more entertaining. But that is my opinion.
I've seen Joe and Yngwie play live. Joe was like a Zen master. Yngwie was phenomenal from a technical point of view but the rock star ego trip was "trite." Musically, Joe can draw on a vast range while Yngwie is focused heavily on the neo classical lines he grew up on; versatile vs. narrow focus. I can listen to Joe repeatedly and enjoy it. Yngwie I can listen to occasionally. For all his mouth, Yngwie is a character. Joe strikes me as a fairly enlightened person. To each his own but be cool about it.
I had a pleasure of watching them play live during a G3 show.. We've noticed when Yngwie playing lead Joe and the other guys play riff for him.. but if Joe or Steve's turn to play solo.. Yngwie leaves the stage won't play riff.. And just comes back when it's his time to do solo again.. 😂
He’s humble now, he used to be super super arrogant and condescending in the 90s especially. Read about the experiences Graham Bonnett and Joe Lynn Turner described with him…
I love how over the top Yngwie is and how he speaks without a filter. It's part of his charm as a virtuoso, just unapologetically himself running at max speed, everything on 10 no matter what. Love him or hate him, prime Yngwie is one of the most talented players the world has ever seen
True but he has HIS idea of how everything should be played. Different bands have different concepts and ideals so different sounds and feels. As great as Yngwie is he doesn't know everything about every band and every style. So his concepts and ideals are his own and doesn't necessarily match every genre. If everyone played just like him guitar would become boring. EVH didn't play like Yngwie and thank goodness for that
@@alexandero9936 Not so🤔 Myself, my son & one of my guitar students saw Yngwie at The HarrisburgXL April 29th 2022 & he was on-point. He DID start "virtuoso-noodling" & my son decided he wanted to head back to the restroom & also see the merch stands. The opener (Kurt Deimer) called us over to The VIP Area & across "the velvet rope" when he & Phil-X saw my son & I rocking out together...& Kurt said he could "hear my power vocals" OVER the throng of the blaring show sets🎶😎 We talked for a few moments, he signed some stuff for my son, we exchanged info & actually keep in touch🎶😎🙏 It was a good show🎶🎸
You know what, fuck these shredders, Iommi had the best picking. He may not pick a thousand notes per second but when he picks the whole damn world rumbles, cracks and caves in. Or take Sykes for example, when he picks you feel it in your balls. Those are the kinds of picking sounds that stay with you throughout your life above all else, however jaw dropping they may otherwise be.
People remember Kirk Hammet's playing on metal classics. Millions of people, knowing every nuance, whereas Yngwie just widdled himself into obscurity, as was his place. All the technique in the world couldn't score him a tune to be remembered for.
@@k24civic Skill never equates to beautiful music, its about the level of musicality not the level of skills. Kirk has far more beautiful solos to remember than Dave.
Oh definitely. Kirk writes good riffs, but can not bend in tune if his life depends on it. I also don't think his solo's are very imaginative. He's just very fast.
The problem with Yngvie is that he has yet to write a song to the level of those who he criticises, instrumental or otherwise. Most people cite Far Beyond The Sun, but that song is pretty much Beethoven's fifth moved up and around a bit. The man is an elite virtuoso, but I struggle to find a single song I listen to for anything other than the quality of the playing.
Yes Yngwie is like a Paganini on electric guitar. But I do believe that Yngwie has some great songs. What about 'You don't remember I'll never forget' or 'Making Love'? I like that 80s and early 90s stuff Yngwie wrote
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate those songs, but to be honest, I would much rather listen to the Stratovarius album "Episode", or the Nation album "Without Remorse" than any Yngwie album at this point. I just feel Yngwie is not as good a songwriter as people like Timo Tolkki or even Johnny Öhlin. I listened to Yngwie for many, many years, so it could be I am just burned out...
No no no.. Now you talk shit mate... What about blackstar? Rising force? I am a Viking? I can go on and on and on.. Check out alcatrazz. It's a more vocal band where he wrote many things.. If you are a musician, you'll definitely like malmsteens genius
Yngwie is amazing at what he does but can only listen to only one of his albums. I listened to all Satriani albums on repeat for the past three decades.
EXACTLY! and that is because Joe Satriani is simply more musical than Yngwie. I do not consider Yngwie amazing, fast yes, amazing no. Steve Vai, amazing, Chet Atkins amazing, Guthrie Govan amazing. Yngwie does not fit in with these guitarists.
I think YJM plays faster and more note accurate than KH but I would never listen an album of Metallica played by YJM…different styles make both unique…not better .
Ah, Yngwie being Yngwie...loves to hear himself talk. He's not wrong here, as sometimes Kirk is a bit of a mess- but Yngwie sure does love to point it out....
fuck that, yngwie is more technical guitar player than kirk but he doesnt have a guitar solos that mark the world like kirk did, the unforgiven guitar solo for me is one of the best solos ever made
@@markgiovanieobligado Maybe you don't notice bad vibrato and out of key bends. Once you start hearing it, it's like nails on a chalkboard. That's why some can't stand Hammet.
@@danyeo you know what this all about yngwie's jelousy and insecurities because even how hard he tries to be the best and the fastest guitar player but when it comes to kirk, he's networth and fame he always come up short, big difference my friend
@@danyeo - lol if you're hearing out of key bends it's because you're looking and listening for them. Music was never meant to be perfect. If Kirk is a hair off sometimes so what. You might be part of the problem with some fans. Too technical so you can't just enjoy the music
Kirk is not a terrible guitarists, and the guitar player “fraternity” out there don’t have to be the judge on that, it’s rock n rolls fans who are the judge and they don’t care or even know if the notes chosen are not necessarily in the right key, or slightly out of tune. They like it, and it’s not supposed to be Mozart, it never was. It’s rock n roll, play whatever the fark you want, if people like it.
@@Rockoutcookiemonster there’s a way to play out. Concerning Hammett, he’s not good; every bend is out of tune, every solo is basically the same as the previous ones, with the same lick played over and over again.
@@Rockoutcookiemonster actually, check all the solos in their second album; they’re all exactly the same, excluding a couple of passages in Creeping Death.
Yeah these "guitar virtuoso" dudes never amount to much as far as touching people with their music. They seem to focus on their technical noodling as if it's a competition and that's the completely wrong way to judge music. Music is art. Art is about touching one's soul, and there's so many ways to do it. I get annoyed with anyone who tries to rank music as if it's a competition. It's not, leave that for sports.
I don't think Yngwie was wrong on Kirk. I have the same struggles in my playing as Kirk and I feel his pain. That said I don't think 80s Yngwie would like the playing of current Yngwie. He's lost his sense of melody. Yngwie played fast but he never played rubbish. Now he often just randomly recycles his old licks and doesn't really focus much on what he's playing over. I still love him though.
Well, that's because today's guitar players aren't at the forefront of music like it was through the 80s. He doesn't have to do anything nearly as complex compared to all the F'N amazing players back then.
@@crankfastle8138 I know right, people listen to Kirk's playing since they wanna listen to Metallica, who listens to Yngwie? Like who actually sits there and listens to Yngwie all day?
Who cares about basic pentatonic runs or technicality, just have fun playing whatever, just because you are very good at something doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole
Honestly. I only like a few of malmsteen songs. He is a master at his own style. But I love most of Metallica's music. And Kirk hammet has got some pretty kick ass solos In his style
Very true, it's the sound that's more important not the look, I always thought Malmsteen was bit of an odd ball, he always tries to play fast all the time which is the main reason why he has no memorable tunes or melodies, I don't know any of his tunes and I'm 55yrs old. My knowledge of rock guitarists goes from Jimi Hendrix to Joe Satriani to Guthrie Govan and everyone in between etc etc...
@@malthevh8367 I totally agree with you, sometimes too many notes picked at a fast continuous pace without any intervals or slow paced picking sounds kaotic to me, there's no verses or chorus so to speak. Music is a sound not a look, once a guitarist starts focusing on how they look rather than how they sound, their musicality goes downhill, there's no musical honesty and logic in their compositions. Playing fast and slow are both equally important in guitar music both have their own dynamics to create a great music composition. Malmsteen reminds me of Alan Holdsworth's type of guitar music, it's just continual fast picking with no verses or choruses, or even a main melody line, it sounds like they're musically lost or something, that's my opinion anyway
It seems none of you heard what was said. Yngwie said Kirk can play fast well but often plays out of tune. This is not up for debate. It is a fact that can be proved easily. I can slow down his solos without changing the pitch and put a tuner up. Whether you like Kirk or yngwie is another story. I like songs from both of them but it's a fact that Kirk plays out of tune.
The thing is, its not just about fame. Its obvious that Yngwie is a bit jealous of kirk and satriani’s success here, but then again Yngwie is miles ahead of 99% of guitar virtuosos (in terms of technical proficiency) so when he criticizes them, its more of him just saying that they aren’t on his level (which not many people are). At the end of the day Kirk is great, Yngwie is great, big musicians talk shit about each other all the time 🤷♂️
Being "world's fastest guitarist" is the equivalent of being the novelist that types the fastest of them all. It's what's created that counts. The space between the notes is every bit as important as the notes themselves. At a certain point, sheer speed takes away the musicality. Speed can be exciting and it can cause other emotions, but it's only an aspect guitar playing. 100% rather listen to Eddie or Nuno than Yngwie even if Yngwie arguably has better technique than all the rest. Allan Holdsworth was on a whole other planet.
I like Kirk. He's got a real quirky style and memorable melodies that make you want to whistle along, but sometimes falls a little flat live, especially in the St Anger period. But that's just how he plays. He doesn't do the solos the same every time. He has a bit of an improvisational approach, which is why his solos sound the way they do. Yngwie is very precise and his solos are beautiful, but I rarely listen to him. It just goes to show that music is not some gymnastic sport. It's for enjoyment. How does it make you feel?
Music is not about how fast and tech, it's the melody that makes the song stands out. The listener doesn't even care about the tech, it's how they were move by the song.
Gee, Yngwie has reduced me to tears many times in the past. Metallica never moved me at all musically. From my viewpoint, the best thing about them is that Hetfield wrote some decent lyrics.
@@FretsOnFire You're like that one triggered Yngwie fan trolling the comments. Sorry but he's not a great because he didn't stand the test of time. I watched him last year, the show was fine but even Yngwie can't keep up with his young self while Metallica is still relevant.
@@vladimirpoutine7522 Metallica was never relevant to me. You don't understand Yngwie in the least. Genius is often misunderstood by those who don't get it. Geniuses are almost never popular, because it requires too much of the listener. On the other hand, crap like Metallica is often popular, appeals to the lowest common denominator.
@@vladimirpoutine7522 & BTW, the trolls are actually in the majority here, a bunch of musically ignorant wannabe guitar players who stupidly spew crap about stuff they don't understand. Thankfully there are some here who have a brain of their own and don't jump on the bandwagon with all the Yngwie bashers & regurgitate the same old vomit. It's obvious that ninety-nine percent of the negative commenters haven't heard anything past Odyssey. They superficially listen to a second or two of later stuff and immediately proclaim - "yep, that's yngwie with the same old million miles an hour shit." But they only listen superficially for a few seconds,, just long enough to hear a furious run, then they immediately stop listening and start regurgitating....
@@FretsOnFire I don't disagree that at one time he was beyond the typical level of musician. But slamming Metallica because Malmsteen isn't as popular isn't the way either. Both brought something to the scene but unfortunately, Malmsteen wasn't what people were into. I think Shawn Lane is miles better than Malmsteen and he was even less popular. And Shawn didn't come with the massive ego. Malmsteen became great through years of practice vs Shawn being born with the gift to play at Malmsteen speed by the age of 14. But his music like Yngwies, wasn't what people wanted. For a reason. Even Yngwie at one time admitted Shawn was a different level of force to be reckon with. ua-cam.com/video/K2QIxv5UhII/v-deo.html
@@cryptoskywalker1714 Creative and original songwriting trumps technical skills. When both are combined it is like an alignment of the planets and masterpieces are created. Metallica had it with Cliff. Van Halen had it with Eddie. Jimi Hendrix had it.
Let me put this way in football context. Yngwie - freestyler who can do anything with the ball entertaining people with his skills. Kirk - typical football player who can do basic thing as a footballer but really give an impact to the team in a match.
@@matejcevnik7362 imagine labeling someone who have been doing great for decades touring the world a spamm while you only have immature games video uploaded in your channel.ewwww
I'm so glad I watched this to the very end. Really well documented piece. Incredibly honest on both sides. At the point where you said Yngwie was a bit jealous and then turned it around to how Kirk and Satch had to settle for not being clones. Well done! Genius!
I like Yngwie 😊. I like the other guitarists as well. All this guitarist/band drama stories is so funny 😂 It is like The Bold and the Beautiful for guitarists 😆
Kirk wrote Enter Sandman. He couldve never written anything else and he would still be miles ahead of yngwie when it comes to impact on the world. I really think he doesnt give shit what Yngwie Malmsteen thinks nor should he.
Looooooool))) Duude..,,enter sandman impact the world 🤣🤣🤣 You are just crazy, talking this nonsense. Yngwie has impacted the world with his music, he invented a focking style of metal music, which influenced on the TONS of bands and musicians. From the heavy metal, to the power metal, to the symphonic metal, death metal, gothic metal, and many-many other styles, bands all over the world. "kirk wrote enter sandman impact the world" 😆😆😆
@@soldierbreakneck771 What did he invent out of curiousity? I mean if your just talking about his alternate picking and fast arpeggios, that's literally been around for like 400 years lol.
Well to me Joe Satriani is the most melodic guitarist there is within the rock genre. Joe plays with so much soul and every note is emotive and that for me is what I love in a guitarist. Not just mindless speed that means nothing and doesn't touch the soul.
Malmsteen is fast, but who can listen to soulless techniques for very long? I don't care about perfect techniques when you can get incredible emotion from great style. People talk about Jimmy Page being sloppy, but his work is far and away much better and more listenable than anything ego dude has ever done. Page live is also mostly improvisation and his choices are just plain cool, missed notes and all. 😊
I remember a interview with Joe Satriani and Kirk in a guitar magazine, where they both talked about how they used to listen to Malmsteen's Black Star over and over.
Yes I'm pretty sure that when Kirk came to Joe Satriani and brought him Yngwie Malmsteen's demo tape, Joe didn't have any clue how Yngwie plays and what techniques he uses. So he didn't teach Kirk how to play like Yngwie, he probably showed him just the harmonic minor scale. So Kirk had to give up wanting to play like Yngwie.
Listen to Kirk's solos and you'll realise Yngwie was not wrong. There are some from the early catalogue that are great, well constructed solos (Blackened stands out). However, those moments of melodic genius are rare and you have to question whether he has a very musical ear at all. He really hasn't evolved his style either, and has instead just doubled down on the boring, non-melodic and stale pentatonic stuff. There are other notes on the fretboard Kirk! Maybe ignoring colour and tension notes is his way of not screwing up melodically.
You are correct. The only solos that are great were the ones that Bob Rock made him redo over and over again until they were perfect. Listen to today's solos compared to the ones with Bob, and you'll hear it.
It's funny that people can't take the Metallica criticism even when they are valid. And Justice For All really got me into metal but I can admit there's lots of songs where Lars sounds bad and the solos and whack. It's ok; Metallica is still one of the most important bands ever.
That's nice. I'd rather listen to Kirk play than this weirdo. Donut boy has never written a solo as beautiful as Fade To Black. Kirk has written more iconic and inspirational solos than this clown. Only guitar nerds who think if you play fast and are super technical make you good like this guy.
Kirk Hammett is out of key on his solo in “Shortest Straw” and I’m surprised the band didn’t make him re-do that one. But his playing on Kill ‘Em All LP? Pure fire.
You're proving that your hearing is bad Junior. Listen to Teaser - not one single harmonic minor or diminished lick to be found. Every fill in that song is major pentatonic. There's no harmonic minor in the solo. Dragonfly as well, not one harmonic minor or diminished. And there are a lot of songs from Yngwie with no harmonic minor.
No one ever compares themselves to anyone. There is enough room in the guitar world for many players. Happily we have have so many great players and styles to not say whom is the best. It is apples and oranges, sometimes bananas and limes. Have an acceptance to the fact that we have so many amazing players , styles and palates. It makes music that much more enthralling and wonderful!
If you walk into any guitar store, you can recognize a Metallica song within the first 6 notes. You might hear someone play some Yngwie, but it’s not going to stick in your mind like a Metallica riff.
@@sole__doubt Nope,I think Yngwie's songs are just totally different, very melodic and with a classic song structure (verse,bridge,chorus etc)....it's just a matter of taste.
Malmsteen's career, lol! He can't even sell out venues of a few hundred people in recent years while Metallica still sells out stadiums. Hell even 1990s, Swedish death metal prog metal band, Opeth can come to the USA in recent years and sellout the Red Rock Amphitheater venue of 9000 plus. Yngwie Malmsteen isn't even close to the popularity of fellow Swedish metal band Opeth so to compare them with mega metal band Metallica? Lol!
lmao, i remember when this interview happened, i didnt agree but i got where Yngwie was coming from, first time i heard Kirk i felt the same then i grew to understand his style.
I analyzed many of Kirk's solos and he does use some notes and phrases beyond the scale which other guitarists don't use and it sounds great! Moreover, even Joe Satriani said that he could hear Hammett begin to use more exotic scales as Metallica’s career and music advanced. 🎸🎸🎸
Yngvie is amazing and unique. His technique is impeccable and perfect beyond anyone else’s. And he’s unbelievably fast. There’s hardly any point in Yngvie, or anyone else, making comparisons. It’s like comparing Chopin with Bach. Good music has components in multiple dimensions. Speed and precision are among many different elements of expression.
Honestly respect to these guys. They are giants in the guitar world and they absolutely slay on the fretboard. But I love Kirk's solos, I couldn't care less if they are "overdone or basic" they fit and sound great and I will always remember them.
I dunno they always seemed to lack a certain wow factor for me. Hell, even Cliff recognized it. During the Master of Puppets tour, he was actually considering getting the other guys to bring back Mustaine but we all know what happened to prevent that. Rest in Power, Cliff.
Even the people that can play like Yngwie can't play like him , he is incredibly solid , such command of the instrument has only been accomplished by Michael Romeo , who also has developed a very personal style.
@@SvenTviking Wrong. There is easily more of a Uli Roth influence than Blackmore. And there is also an Al DiMeola influence in his picking, as well as a Holdsworth influence in his legato work. Not to mention that so much of his playing & composition is heavily influenced by Bach and Vivaldi. And arpeggios heavily influenced by Paganini. I get so tired of hearing uneducated people regurgitate the same old crap about Yngwie. Clueless!
Not to mention he does play with huge rings, heavy bracelets, watches.... Us musicians know how difficult it can be, I personally couldn't play at the same condotions. Malmsteen is not ma favorite guitarist but his covers had a major role in my guitar formation it looked unreal that fat hand moving so comfortable to look slow and the notes that cane out. In those last years I noticed that he got back in shape, hope he stopped with alcool. Best wishes to Yngwe and Kirk, they're both great in their own way.
Well, to be frank, they are all awesome and I'm glad they all have a platform to share their amazing music... and I would like to say if you haven't heard Estas Tonne ( Beyond). You literally feel transported to a higher realm of being....thank you!!!!
@@garyhughes5356 You are deaf. Doubtless you didn't bother to listen to most of Yngwie's material because you had your mind made up already. I could point out so many melodic solos on his many many albums. To you it all sounds the same, because your ear is deficient, unfortunately.
Yngwie the type of guy that brings out his nerdy critical opinion in front of the crew, and everyone is like: "Yeah, whatever..." and then he goes away to cry in the corner...
That was a very enjoyable story with a lot of facts and stuff that I did not know and I found that interesting also for years I've been ripping on Yngwie Malmsteen and I saw them in concert one time and it was let's just say we left after 10 minutes so anyways enough said thank you
Thanks for the story telling Karren !! I never heard all this before !! Sure live performances can be bad somtimes , depending on thhe energy we have , your right , Kirk first solo that Yngwie heard first was not his best then ... Rock on mate !!!
@@bls8959 Lots of guitarists beat EVH, he didn't progress much after the early 80's, he was more of a showman and generally used simple patterns and triads instead of scales and modes.... An I like Eddies playing, blows Hammett out of the water....
@@MickH60 he didn't need to progress...it was his style that he created that all these ppl that you mentioned..ya there are guitarist that past his skills but without Eddie they would even exist
@@MickH60 it isn't about who's technically better it's about who had the biggest impact..hell I play better than Eddie but that's means nothing...not to mention Eddie could actually write songs while most of those guitarists couldn't and thats what it's really about
I love my life for METALLIC and I love every bit of their materials since day one especially the stuffs from James, but YNWIE is absolutely right about KIRK 🤟😂🤟 but this doesn’t stop me supporting METALLICA 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
I'd rather hear a guy like Alex Skolnick in Metallica!!!! OH MY, every Metallica solo would have been soooo much better. Alex would fit in with the band, Yngwie is too much of a douche to be a team player in a band.
Could Malmsteen write the solo to The Thing That Should Not Be, Blackened, The Unforgiven or Orion? I don't mean technicality, I mean the creative inspiration that makes you sing those solos.
@@CassiniProjekt idk, probably, he’s melodic as fuck and much more articulate with his note choices. I believe the standard listener wouldn’t give a fuck, but guitarists everywhere would actually have something interesting to listen to from Metallica’s catalog.
There is no hate. Just opinions expressed. I'm sure Malmsteen has moved way beyond jealousy for other players and Kirk has done the same. Yngwie acknowledges his superiority as a guitar player and Kirk acknowledges his "coolness" on guitar solos. And fans do too.
When I first heard Kirk back in the 80's as an untrained musician, what I appreciated the most about Kirk was his phrasing. He played with passion. Fade to Black is a classic example how each lick flowed into the next -- continually. If that song didn't actually fade to black, Kirk could have played for two more hours. I wanted to like Yngwie more. His playing impressed me, but it didn't touch me. That is the difference. Kirk played solos that matched the energy of the song. It is that simple. Yngwie was always arrogant. Of course is really good, but he misses the human touch. He is someone to watch and listen to as a bystander or spectator -- full of wonder sometimes, but he doesn't connect with the listener making them feel like they are in the song. That is the difference.
Aren't a lot of riffs and solos on the first 3 Metallica albums actually Mustaine? As in he wrote them. Mustaine said on Joe Rogan podcast that Metallica kept using his stuff even though he told them not to when he left the band.
@@noless Not exactly. There is no doubt that the solo structures were established on Kill 'em All. I heard Mustaine's Hit the Lights solo on Metallica's demo that landed on a thrash compilation album. There is no doubt Kirk followed that pretty closely, and probably that could be said for their first album. Hammet only had a few weeks to get the solos down for the album after being called in last minute. I don't doubt Mustaine's riffs were sourced to write other songs on RTL, and maybe a riff or two on Masters, but that would not be fair to say that Kirk Hammet played Dave Mustaine solos for the first three albums.
I purchased Malmsteen's album, Rising Force, in the 80s; I wasn't blown away by the songwriting or that Neo Classical thing he was doing. I chuck it up to the fact that Van Halen was my #1 band at the time, so I was already listening to out of this world guitar playing, and I had been listening to Zep and Hendrix even before VH--plus I lived in a neighborhood where guys were blasting Funk along with Judas Priest and Zeppelin. I also shared a house with a fantastic Classical pianist, but he was also experimental--something I didn't hear Malmsteem doing to my 18 year old ears. Also, I saw Metallica around that time opening for Ozzy, Cliff Burton on bass. It was luke warm for me at the time; though, I was already playing Metallica and Motorhead for a year, it really didn't hit me as to what they were doing until much later. I love Metallica now as a band, I think they are fantastic and still writing great music; though, I think Megadeath is much better--better overall musicians and songwriting. I still can't stand Malmsteen's music, in fact I bailed on it first album. But I study his videos on UA-cam, not for style or flash, but because I've come to appreciate his exceptional fretboard awareness.
@@stringer29 so what I didn't like the album, I'm more Blues Rock oriented guy; hence, 79 to about 82 Van Halen appeals more to sensibility. But guess what, I know guys that don't like Van Halen because they say he's not as Bluesy as Hendrix. The world keeps turning. Not only did I buy the album, I was one of the first to buy it when folks didn't even know how to pronounce the name--called him Yungwe and everything else under the sun. The guys who were there in the 80s, maybe saw an article in Guitar Player know what I'm talking about.
Grunge didn’t hurt Yngwie’s popularity. He did it to himself by rotating singers. His follow up to Odyssey should have been big, but he released Eclipse without Joe Lynn Turner and though it was ok, it did not have the hooks like Odyssey.
Technically Yngwie is better than Kirk, I don't think anyone would debate that. However, his style gets boring really fast. Kirk plays with more soul, and his work on AJFA, MOP, and RTL is in my opinion often underrated. He may not use the most technically advanced scales and techniques, but his solos, especially on AJFA are really creative and inspired a lot of people, including myself, to pick up the guitar.
I like all three a lot, also all three changed the game to some extent. What's great about guitar is that it being probably the most expressive instrument everyone plays idiosyncratically different.
We should thank them all for bringing new things and inspiration to a new breed of guitar players around the world. Malmsteen is a virtuoso...Satriani is a genious and Kirk is a millionaire......
I was a teenager when i figured out what yngwie didnt as an adult. Its an art, not engineering. Even engineering has a purpose, make the thing work. Over engineering does nothing for the root solution, it only introduces excess complexity. An art is even more susceptible to over complexity for no gain. I plateued on guitar in my late teens, but I enjoy what I can play. i actually will listen to the music I can play in the car, occasionally. I listen to yngwie and was blown away, but it missed the art of music. Its like seeing a huge beautiful clock with intricate carvings and excessive cogs, but never wanting to use it for its time keeping because you have a simple digital clock. Kirk and joe built much more melodic and enjoyable songs. A simple counter point to yngwie is the musicality and under appreciated "rest". It is a note, it carries weight, it adds or relieves tension. It takes no talent, but it takes an artist to use them correctly to created the desired result. Ah the subjectivity of art. What a simple teenage concept to understand. Psychology of ego is more adult and evolving concept. Oh my favorite analogy of excessive complexity is the ww2 panzer vs the simple sherman. Was excessive complexity beneficial?
I’m not a musician, but I am a lover of music. I have heard a number of Yngwie songs and have ALWAYS felt unmoved, as if he was all show and not an ounce of emotion. While I am not the rabid Metallica fan I was as a teenager, I can say that their early albums had (and still) produce chills to this (almost) 52 year old guy!
Agreed. I around the same age and can tell you the circumstances when I first heard Metallica and thrash in general. It was my freshman year and one of my buddies cousins put in a Metallica 📼📻 cassette and we were like 🤯 The only thing I remember about Malmsteen is when this kid we jammed with tried to convince us Malmsteen was the new thing. I just heard a blur of notes and wasn't too impressed. 🥱 Its not even like I wasn't into instrumental cause Vai has been my top two with Stevie Ray. Its also kinda ironic for Malmsteen to criticize Kirk as just scales.
It's not virtuosity that sells. It's songs. That's why all these shredders will never be anything more than hired guns. I have 5 YJM albums and I can say there is no growth in his playing. Kirk is a good guitarist and he brings to the band what is required. Some of the best guitarists don't even play lead. Lead is only a tiny aspect of guitar playing. It's like the icing on the cake. When I play a song it's the lyrics and melody I notice first. The solo is the last and least important aspect of any song.
I'm pretty sure 💯 that when Kirk came to Joe Satriani and brought him Yngwie Malmsteen's demo tape, Joe didn't have any clue how Yngwie plays and what techniques he uses. So he didn't teach Kirk how to play like Yngwie, he probably showed him just the harmonic minor scale. So Kirk had to give up wanting to play like Yngwie.
I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE YNGWIE J. MALMSTEEN, JOE SATRIANI, STEVE VAI AND BILLY SHEEHAN ON THE G3 TOUR....... ABSOLUTELY AMAZING PLAYERS ALL OF THEM.YNGWIE CLEARLY WAS THE BEST PLAYER.❤️🙏
Syu from Galneryus is my fav guitar Player in Angel of Salvation he soloing a full part of tchaikovsy I also like it when guitar player play parts of Real classical pieces John Petrucci is great too Alternate picking is great
I don't buy the idea that Kirk's sole reason for not wanting to dig into Yngwie's style was related to not wanting to sound like Yngwie. There were many players who were influenced by Yngwie, such as Paul Gilbert, who have gone on to develop something different in their own right. I also don't see Yngwie's comments about Kirk, as having to be driven by bank account jealousy, because there are many players (such as Brian May) who have a lot more money than Yngwie, for which Yngwie has high regard. I have read through many of the comments that imply that Yngwie is boring to listen to. Personally, I will not disagree as I have grown bored with his playing. He has not broadened his musical palette in 40 years. While he has arguably more technical prowess than he did when he was 18, I believe that he has lost feel, which I find to be a shame. Frankly, I would liked to have seen Yngwie expand in a way that a player such as Greg Howe did, but I believe that when players become very successful, they often develop a level of complacency. In context, there are many great players out there, who don't have a fraction of the money that Yngwie has amassed. Sadly, Allan Holdsworth's family had a gofundme to cover funeral expenses. Thus, any arguments equating net worth to influence or skill don't hold any weight in my book and while music is subjective, I largely agree with his assessment of Kirk. I like Metallica, but with few exceptions I am not a fan of Kirk's solos. I think that somebody like Marty Friedman would add so much more.
@The Frog King I figure Yngwie does not need a part-time gog at Taco Bell to get by. However, Kirk likely makes more per month than Yngwie makes in a year. That said, Kirk likely spends a lot more on donuts. Let us pray.
Like him or not, no one plays and shreds like Yngwie. He is also very melodic and plays with emotion, even at that speed. No one can pick all those notes like he does. I haven't heard anyone do it like him. Btw, beware. Playing Yngwie for a few years gave me all the tendinitis and tunnel syndromes in both hands and arms known to men. Jesus Christ!
@@viktormedina4631 I don't "headbang" to anything these days .. but if I did, it wouldn't be Green Day, and it most definitely wouldn't be to the wankery of Yngwie.
😂😂😂I got mad and stopped trying 😂😂😂and justices for all was my last album I supported, but I’m happy for their success ❤❤❤I’m Yngwie’s fan for ever and never get numb of hearing or seeing his playing… how good is Queen’s Rytchie.
It's lame how bands like metallica are shitted on because they don't play as fast or difficult. I don't care what anyone says no metal band made anything as legendary or jaw dropping as them.
@@Taylor.Dude. i rather listen to the licks and amazing solo than listen to kurt cobain play like amateur level of lil wayne lol. nirvana are for f@gss
Kirk Hammett isn't the greatest guitar player but he's the right lead guitar player in Metallica. I can't imagine Master Of Puppets or Ride The Lightning without Kirk's lead playing. Thousands of people sing his solos. Nobody sings Yngwie's solos.
Yeah I think so. Lots of people were inspired by Yngwie's style. I know that for me that sharped seventh was exactly what I wanted to hear. Kirk sounded pretty cool when he was playing Mustaine's leads. And he did some cool stuff when he was still studying with Joe. But he never really sounded great to me. Yngwie on the other hand recorded about five albums that I think are excellent. It seems like as soon as people become successful they lose the fire. I'm not sure what Yngwie is doing singing for himself. He, Uli, Zakk. They need a singer. When you're that established find someone who is a dedicated singer.
Yngwie is a snooze fest, does the same shit every album, perfect technique. Zero personality, would rather listen to the composers he plagiarized from.
Yngwie is a snooze fest, does the same shit every album, perfect technique. Zero personality, would rather listen to the composers he plagiarized from.
Yngwie is a snooze fest, does the same shit every album, perfect technique. Zero personality, would rather listen to the composers he plagiarized from.
It's hard enough playing in tune & on time, lead guitar is supposed to accentuate the song, not show off, I'm a fan of music, love it, dedication & determination will always shine through, music is what feelings sound like 😊
Well musically Joe Satriani is fantastic but sorry guys he can't pick like Yngwie. To play fast Joe Satriani uses legato and he uses it too much. And Yngwie's picking is like knitting which is really amazing. Yngwie mixes picking with legato and other techniques. So technically Yngwie is the best and nobody could play like Yngwie in the 80s and 90s.
Does Satriani do too many legatos? By that criterion, Allan Holdsworth is worse than Malmsteen? If it's a question of muscle, then the best is James Hetfield. In any case, you forget about others as fast as Malmsteen, such as Paul Gilbert or Michael Angelo Batio.
@@DeborahHammondnone of them are in Yngwie's league, especially not James Hetfield.
@@DeborahHammond When Allan Holdsworth was a kid, he wanted to play jazz on saxophone but his father bought him an electric guitar because saxophone is an expensive instrument. So what Allan did he listened to saxophone jazz players and played that music on guitar. And to imitate saxophone soloing on guitar he used the legato technique. So in the early 80s, it was new and nobody could play like Holdsworth. And Joe Satriani uses legato technique to play fast and he can't pick like Yngwie. Even Steve Vai admires Yngwie's picking. Steve Vai says that even when he watches Yngwie play very closely, he can't figure out how Yngwie does it.
@@DeborahHammond Paul Gilbert is a very talented musician but sorry, like Neil DMonte said, he's not in Yngwie's league. Yngwie is like a Paganini on electric guitar. As for Michael Batio, he is a fantastic metal shredder but Yngwie is technically superior I believe. Yngwie's much more flexible whereas Michael Batio plays more mechanically. Yngwie uses economy picking, his right hand barely moves. But Michael Batio is also super fast and amazing, so I would love to see them both playing guitar duels on stage.
Hey guys, the thing is that in 81 when Kirk came to Joe, Joe Satriani had no idea how to play like Yngwie and what techniques he used. Apparently he just showed the harmonic minor scale to Kirk and eventually Kirk had to give up wanting to be Yngwie.
Nobody ever mentions Yngwie's vibrato, but it's one of the best in all of guitar.
Absolutely
Scalloped fret make vibrato pretty easy.
Sure, but I've also seen him do it just the same on a Les Paul Standard without scalloped frets.
@@moreblack Please links, I've always wanted to hear Yngwie play a Les Paul
WORD!
You can be the fastest, most technical, most precise, most skilled guitar player in the world...that doesnt mean you can write a good song that everybody can vibe to.
If you refer yngwie, he is not even the fastest. He has his own style, but he is not the fastest and the most technical.
Michael Angelo Batio is.
Thats totaly true .You can mix virtuosity with hooks and melody . Megadeth and Death are great examples of that
I can name countless of great songs, riffs and solos Yngwie is worldwide known for....Joe Satriani, Becker, Angelo...they are know for shredding. Yngwie, Van Halen, Rhoads led the way.
@@alwanrosyidi2772So is Uli Jon Roth.
A good example would be Mick Mars. He isn't noted as being a shredder, however he has composed songs and solos that made the Crue. Just because you are an exceptional technical player doesn't mean you can write music for the masses.
Hammett fits Metallica just right. It works. Satriani is just great the way he is. No need for anyone to catch up with Yngwie's speed. They all have their own feel and they all write their own songs. No one copies anyone. That's good.
And that's why Dave Mustaine was replaced by Hammett
@@josecarlosramolete6109 Dave wasn't fired because he was a bad player. Dave was fired because of his non stop drugs and drinking. Anyone that believes Kirk is 10% the guitarist Dave is hasn't listen to a Megadeth record. Dave is only the 2nd best guitarist in Megadeth and he's way better than Hammett at pretty much everything. It's pretty close between Hetfield and Dave when it comes to rhythm guitar but Dave smokes them both on leads hands down. IMHO. Cheers!
@@robtech341
Yes. I am aware Mustaine was fired because of drugs.
What I hate about Mustaine is: he still couldn't get over about being fired from Metallica. He needs to move on already.
@@josecarlosramolete6109 Mustaine plays better, he has perfected his spider technique, Kirk is still recycling his wah wah solos, and as James put it, Kirk seems to lose all his work
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Yet, Mustaine still couldn't get over from being fired from Metallica. He needs to move on already!
Joe and Yngwie played on G3 together. I'm sure they both have a lot of respect for each other
But the G3 with Yngwie was the less interesting musically… Yngwie is not the right guy for a G3 his awful style ruined that G3. The one with John Petrucci was way better.
@@bobaltoI was at a few performances. Yngwie kept Vai and Satch on their toes for sure.
The G3 with Yngwie was the worst one.
From a melodic point of view, Yngwie was completely out of step with Satch and Vai
@bobalto I guess that is your opinion. I saw them at State Capitol Theater in D.C. and in Maryland. They couldn't touch Yngwie. Yes, I think they were a little louder than Yngwie. Yngwies tone was warmer and less processed. When all three played, it was difficult hearing individually at times. Satch was the most boring to me. He played standard stuff. His stuff is memorized. Vai and Yngwie "reaches" for their notes. But Yngwie takes lots of chances and improvises more than the other two. He was more active on the stage. A little more entertaining. But that is my opinion.
@@bobalto There's footage on here where you can clearly see Fat Yngwie stealing the show. It was actually surprising to see how much he outshone them.
I've seen Joe and Yngwie play live. Joe was like a Zen master. Yngwie was phenomenal from a technical point of view but the rock star ego trip was "trite." Musically, Joe can draw on a vast range while Yngwie is focused heavily on the neo classical lines he grew up on; versatile vs. narrow focus. I can listen to Joe repeatedly and enjoy it. Yngwie I can listen to occasionally. For all his mouth, Yngwie is a character. Joe strikes me as a fairly enlightened person. To each his own but be cool about it.
I'll take Vai over satriani any day.
Malmsteen annoys me so much I don't search his music ever he is the complete opposite of easy on the ear and seems like a complete jerk of a person.
I had a pleasure of watching them play live during a G3 show.. We've noticed when Yngwie playing lead Joe and the other guys play riff for him.. but if Joe or Steve's turn to play solo.. Yngwie leaves the stage won't play riff.. And just comes back when it's his time to do solo again.. 😂
@@smoothcriminal7232 😂 see what I mean he is like a spoilt kid.
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One thing you can’t deny about Yngwie is he’s super humble
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Funniest crap I've ever heard he was like a spoilt child when he toured with vai and Satch.
@@JamesHetfield-hm9xh James your just mad because he can pick faster than you 😉
@@bill_y4762 he down pricks 😌
He’s humble now, he used to be super super arrogant and condescending in the 90s especially. Read about the experiences Graham Bonnett and Joe Lynn Turner described with him…
I love how over the top Yngwie is and how he speaks without a filter. It's part of his charm as a virtuoso, just unapologetically himself running at max speed, everything on 10 no matter what. Love him or hate him, prime Yngwie is one of the most talented players the world has ever seen
Yngwie is almost as good as he thinks he is. I enjoy his music.
Emphasis on *prime*. Modern yngwie can barely play the stuff he wrote
True but he has HIS idea of how everything should be played. Different bands have different concepts and ideals so different sounds and feels. As great as Yngwie is he doesn't know everything about every band and every style. So his concepts and ideals are his own and doesn't necessarily match every genre. If everyone played just like him guitar would become boring. EVH didn't play like Yngwie and thank goodness for that
@@brianstrutter1501 evh did not play like Yngwie that is true but he was almost as arrogant and I didn't like his sound at all.
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Not so🤔
Myself, my son & one of my guitar students saw Yngwie at The HarrisburgXL April 29th 2022 & he was on-point.
He DID start "virtuoso-noodling" & my son decided he wanted to head back to the restroom & also see the merch stands.
The opener (Kurt Deimer) called us over to The VIP Area & across "the velvet rope" when he & Phil-X saw my son & I rocking out together...& Kurt said he could "hear my power vocals" OVER the throng of the blaring show sets🎶😎
We talked for a few moments, he signed some stuff for my son, we exchanged info & actually keep in touch🎶😎🙏
It was a good show🎶🎸
You know what, fuck these shredders, Iommi had the best picking. He may not pick a thousand notes per second but when he picks the whole damn world rumbles, cracks and caves in. Or take Sykes for example, when he picks you feel it in your balls. Those are the kinds of picking sounds that stay with you throughout your life above all else, however jaw dropping they may otherwise be.
Like my friend Jason once said, if you've heard one Yngwie Malmsteen song, you've heard them all.
I'm a Yngwie fan. But your speaking facts.
Some people can’t see the forest for the trees
Not true at all, he has plenty of variety in his music.
I totally agree.
Agree. 15 notes in one sec. All the time. Just too much...
This is the first time I actually agree with something Yngwie said. The part about Kirk Hammett is so spot on
People remember Kirk Hammet's playing on metal classics. Millions of people, knowing every nuance, whereas Yngwie just widdled himself into obscurity, as was his place. All the technique in the world couldn't score him a tune to be remembered for.
Fame doesn’t equate to skill……never forget that. If dave had never left nobody would know who kirk was.
@@k24civic Skill never equates to beautiful music, its about the level of musicality not the level of skills. Kirk has far more beautiful solos to remember than Dave.
@@shorthealthfacts3699 kirk has better known solo* there i fixed it for you.
@@k24civic A musical guitarist (KH) is far different from a circus guitarist (YM)
@@shorthealthfacts3699 kirk an his wah dont hold a candle to yngwie….to each their own tho
Yngwie was actually right when he said that Kirk have an issue with the pitch and tune. That's obvious in many Metallica songs.
very unimpressive live
Oh definitely. Kirk writes good riffs, but can not bend in tune if his life depends on it. I also don't think his solo's are very imaginative. He's just very fast.
I agree with that - also the wah wah is overkill and just too too much.@@dennoow
Kirk's style is hard to sit through now but seeing videos of him back in the day, he was damn good
The problem with Yngvie is that he has yet to write a song to the level of those who he criticises, instrumental or otherwise. Most people cite Far Beyond The Sun, but that song is pretty much Beethoven's fifth moved up and around a bit. The man is an elite virtuoso, but I struggle to find a single song I listen to for anything other than the quality of the playing.
Yes Yngwie is like a Paganini on electric guitar. But I do believe that Yngwie has some great songs. What about 'You don't remember I'll never forget' or 'Making Love'? I like that 80s and early 90s stuff Yngwie wrote
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate those songs, but to be honest, I would much rather listen to the Stratovarius album "Episode", or the Nation album "Without Remorse" than any Yngwie album at this point. I just feel Yngwie is not as good a songwriter as people like Timo Tolkki or even Johnny Öhlin. I listened to Yngwie for many, many years, so it could be I am just burned out...
His Trilogy album wasn’t bad at all. Queen in Love is a great song.
I’d listen to met mega and just about anyone else than malshteen lol
No no no.. Now you talk shit mate... What about blackstar? Rising force? I am a Viking? I can go on and on and on.. Check out alcatrazz. It's a more vocal band where he wrote many things.. If you are a musician, you'll definitely like malmsteens genius
If Kirk gave Yngwie a donut I'm sure he would've slammed him even more
@Underdog why do you think they were trying to give them away 😂
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That was hilarious! I remember that whole " I don't like fucking donuts" thing from the old pantera "watch it go" tape..Yngwie was being a dick
Music is not a speed sport.
Yngwie is amazing at what he does but can only listen to only one of his albums. I listened to all Satriani albums on repeat for the past three decades.
Marching Out or Surfing With The Alien? One time with Marching Out was all I needed. SWTA is a bona fide classic.
Right on brother.
EXACTLY! and that is because Joe Satriani is simply more musical than Yngwie. I do not consider Yngwie amazing, fast yes, amazing no. Steve Vai, amazing, Chet Atkins amazing, Guthrie Govan amazing. Yngwie does not fit in with these guitarists.
Only one? Rising Force, Marching Out, Trilogy, Odyssey, Eclipse, Alchemy, and the recent Parabellum are all amazing albums.
I think YJM plays faster and more note accurate than KH but I would never listen an album of Metallica played by YJM…different styles make both unique…not better .
Ah, Yngwie being Yngwie...loves to hear himself talk. He's not wrong here, as sometimes Kirk is a bit of a mess- but Yngwie sure does love to point it out....
Because he can
fuck that, yngwie is more technical guitar player than kirk but he doesnt have a guitar solos that mark the world like kirk did, the unforgiven guitar solo for me is one of the best solos ever made
@@markgiovanieobligado Maybe you don't notice bad vibrato and out of key bends. Once you start hearing it, it's like nails on a chalkboard. That's why some can't stand Hammet.
@@danyeo you know what this all about yngwie's jelousy and insecurities because even how hard he tries to be the best and the fastest guitar player but when it comes to kirk, he's networth and fame he always come up short, big difference my friend
@@danyeo - lol if you're hearing out of key bends it's because you're looking and listening for them. Music was never meant to be perfect. If Kirk is a hair off sometimes so what. You might be part of the problem with some fans. Too technical so you can't just enjoy the music
Kirk is not a terrible guitarists, and the guitar player “fraternity” out there don’t have to be the judge on that, it’s rock n rolls fans who are the judge and they don’t care or even know if the notes chosen are not necessarily in the right key, or slightly out of tune. They like it, and it’s not supposed to be Mozart, it never was. It’s rock n roll, play whatever the fark you want, if people like it.
When kirk plays wrong notes, its called out of key, when someone else is doing the same, its called - improvisation.
@@Rockoutcookiemonster there’s a way to play out. Concerning Hammett, he’s not good; every bend is out of tune, every solo is basically the same as the previous ones, with the same lick played over and over again.
@@nickchucky3173 true, especially on last two albums.
@@Rockoutcookiemonster actually, check all the solos in their second album; they’re all exactly the same, excluding a couple of passages in Creeping Death.
@@nickchucky3173 did we just listen to the same solos? Because they were definitely different from each other
Yngwie is so good he can star in the next "where are they now"
Hahaha 😂
Yeah these "guitar virtuoso" dudes never amount to much as far as touching people with their music. They seem to focus on their technical noodling as if it's a competition and that's the completely wrong way to judge music. Music is art. Art is about touching one's soul, and there's so many ways to do it. I get annoyed with anyone who tries to rank music as if it's a competition. It's not, leave that for sports.
At Day on the Green in 1985, Kirk played really great. I love the solo he played at the end of 'For Whom The Bell Tolls', sounds amazing! 🎸❤
@@antioch1975 That's not ironic though. Most people seem to have a misunderstanding of what irony actually is.
I don't think Yngwie was wrong on Kirk. I have the same struggles in my playing as Kirk and I feel his pain.
That said I don't think 80s Yngwie would like the playing of current Yngwie. He's lost his sense of melody. Yngwie played fast but he never played rubbish. Now he often just randomly recycles his old licks and doesn't really focus much on what he's playing over. I still love him though.
Well, that's because today's guitar players aren't at the forefront of music like it was through the 80s. He doesn't have to do anything nearly as complex compared to all the F'N amazing players back then.
I agree, Metallica also hasn't released a very good album since the black album
Kirk's solo patterns are getting predictable. Kinda boring.
@@mavakhayank29 so are yngwie's
@@crankfastle8138 I know right, people listen to Kirk's playing since they wanna listen to Metallica, who listens to Yngwie? Like who actually sits there and listens to Yngwie all day?
Who cares about basic pentatonic runs or technicality, just have fun playing whatever, just because you are very good at something doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole
@@Taylor.Dude. purpose of playing guitar: because I love it
I love Yngwie !!!!!! He can be a stand up comedian, at times.
Honestly. I only like a few of malmsteen songs. He is a master at his own style. But I love most of Metallica's music. And Kirk hammet has got some pretty kick ass solos In his style
We forget that music is about feel, not who can go so fast or always technique.
Hammett has always pleased the ear, regardless of pentatonic's etc...
Very true, it's the sound that's more important not the look, I always thought Malmsteen was bit of an odd ball, he always tries to play fast all the time which is the main reason why he has no memorable tunes or melodies, I don't know any of his tunes and I'm 55yrs old. My knowledge of rock guitarists goes from Jimi Hendrix to Joe Satriani to Guthrie Govan and everyone in between etc etc...
@@amoh5 Yep, not a fan. True music comes from the, and I don't hear much of that in YM's music.
@@amoh5 it's also called phrashing in music theory, where you focus on less is more rather than just playing fast
@@malthevh8367 I totally agree with you, sometimes too many notes picked at a fast continuous pace without any intervals or slow paced picking sounds kaotic to me, there's no verses or chorus so to speak. Music is a sound not a look, once a guitarist starts focusing on how they look rather than how they sound, their musicality goes downhill, there's no musical honesty and logic in their compositions. Playing fast and slow are both equally important in guitar music both have their own dynamics to create a great music composition.
Malmsteen reminds me of Alan Holdsworth's type of guitar music, it's just continual fast picking with no verses or choruses, or even a main melody line, it sounds like they're musically lost or something, that's my opinion anyway
It seems none of you heard what was said. Yngwie said Kirk can play fast well but often plays out of tune. This is not up for debate. It is a fact that can be proved easily. I can slow down his solos without changing the pitch and put a tuner up. Whether you like Kirk or yngwie is another story. I like songs from both of them but it's a fact that Kirk plays out of tune.
The problem is outside of the guitar/musician community nobody knows who Yngwie is. Metallica is a household name. Mic drop.
The thing is, its not just about fame. Its obvious that Yngwie is a bit jealous of kirk and satriani’s success here, but then again Yngwie is miles ahead of 99% of guitar virtuosos (in terms of technical proficiency) so when he criticizes them, its more of him just saying that they aren’t on his level (which not many people are). At the end of the day Kirk is great, Yngwie is great, big musicians talk shit about each other all the time 🤷♂️
@@arcy3752ahaha no doubt
Turning art into a popularity contest is silly . By this logic Taylor Swift is a better singer than Pavarotti.
@2bookoo4u Haha r u a m.o.r.o.n?
True, but your mom could play speed metal. Hey even a meth junkie could. But only a handful on the planet are near Malmsteen level....like Vai.
Being "world's fastest guitarist" is the equivalent of being the novelist that types the fastest of them all. It's what's created that counts. The space between the notes is every bit as important as the notes themselves. At a certain point, sheer speed takes away the musicality. Speed can be exciting and it can cause other emotions, but it's only an aspect guitar playing. 100% rather listen to Eddie or Nuno than Yngwie even if Yngwie arguably has better technique than all the rest. Allan Holdsworth was on a whole other planet.
Well said.
I like Kirk. He's got a real quirky style and memorable melodies that make you want to whistle along, but sometimes falls a little flat live, especially in the St Anger period. But that's just how he plays. He doesn't do the solos the same every time. He has a bit of an improvisational approach, which is why his solos sound the way they do. Yngwie is very precise and his solos are beautiful, but I rarely listen to him. It just goes to show that music is not some gymnastic sport. It's for enjoyment. How does it make you feel?
Music is not about how fast and tech, it's the melody that makes the song stands out. The listener doesn't even care about the tech, it's how they were move by the song.
Gee, Yngwie has reduced me to tears many times in the past. Metallica never moved me at all musically. From my viewpoint, the best thing about them is that Hetfield wrote some decent lyrics.
@@FretsOnFire You're like that one triggered Yngwie fan trolling the comments. Sorry but he's not a great because he didn't stand the test of time. I watched him last year, the show was fine but even Yngwie can't keep up with his young self while Metallica is still relevant.
@@vladimirpoutine7522 Metallica was never relevant to me. You don't understand Yngwie in the least. Genius is often misunderstood by those who don't get it. Geniuses are almost never popular, because it requires too much of the listener. On the other hand, crap like Metallica is often popular, appeals to the lowest common denominator.
@@vladimirpoutine7522 & BTW, the trolls are actually in the majority here, a bunch of musically ignorant wannabe guitar players who stupidly spew crap about stuff they don't understand. Thankfully there are some here who have a brain of their own and don't jump on the bandwagon with all the Yngwie bashers & regurgitate the same old vomit. It's obvious that ninety-nine percent of the negative commenters haven't heard anything past Odyssey. They superficially listen to a second or two of later stuff and immediately proclaim - "yep, that's yngwie with the same old million miles an hour shit." But they only listen superficially for a few seconds,, just long enough to hear a furious run, then they immediately stop listening and start regurgitating....
@@FretsOnFire I don't disagree that at one time he was beyond the typical level of musician. But slamming Metallica because Malmsteen isn't as popular isn't the way either. Both brought something to the scene but unfortunately, Malmsteen wasn't what people were into. I think Shawn Lane is miles better than Malmsteen and he was even less popular. And Shawn didn't come with the massive ego. Malmsteen became great through years of practice vs Shawn being born with the gift to play at Malmsteen speed by the age of 14. But his music like Yngwies, wasn't what people wanted. For a reason. Even Yngwie at one time admitted Shawn was a different level of force to be reckon with. ua-cam.com/video/K2QIxv5UhII/v-deo.html
83-86 era Yngwie was untouchable and, probably, the best guitar player of the history of the universe.
That said, Metallica has better songs
Nope, Marty Friedman.
@@redberrydhaka8636 if i have to explain it to you, you wont understand it
@@cryptoskywalker1714 Creative and original songwriting trumps technical skills. When both are combined it is like an alignment of the planets and masterpieces are created. Metallica had it with Cliff. Van Halen had it with Eddie. Jimi Hendrix had it.
@@Monkeyboy2457 Dime epitomized this in my opinion. The apex of metal guitar
Shawn Lane and Allan Holdsworth are better. Ah and Guthrie Govan as well
Every Musicians is good in their own way...
Agree
Let me put this way in football context.
Yngwie - freestyler who can do anything with the ball entertaining people with his skills.
Kirk - typical football player who can do basic thing as a footballer but really give an impact to the team in a match.
Kirk did a lot of amazing things :D
I wouldn't say Kirk is basic tho.
@@brianstrutter1501 let me rephrase, basic "professional player" as you need to reach "certain" level to be professional in sports hehehe
Imagine calling one of the most unversatile arpegio spammers a freestyler
@@matejcevnik7362 imagine labeling someone who have been doing great for decades touring the world a spamm while you only have immature games video uploaded in your channel.ewwww
I'm so glad I watched this to the very end. Really well documented piece. Incredibly honest on both sides. At the point where you said Yngwie was a bit jealous and then turned it around to how Kirk and Satch had to settle for not being clones. Well done! Genius!
Many thanks, great pleasure!!
I like Yngwie 😊. I like the other guitarists as well. All this guitarist/band drama stories is so funny 😂 It is like The Bold and the Beautiful for guitarists 😆
Kirk wrote Enter Sandman. He couldve never written anything else and he would still be miles ahead of yngwie when it comes to impact on the world. I really think he doesnt give shit what Yngwie Malmsteen thinks nor should he.
Looooooool))) Duude..,,enter sandman impact the world 🤣🤣🤣
You are just crazy, talking this nonsense. Yngwie has impacted the world with his music, he invented a focking style of metal music, which influenced on the TONS of bands and musicians. From the heavy metal, to the power metal, to the symphonic metal, death metal, gothic metal, and many-many other styles, bands all over the world.
"kirk wrote enter sandman impact the world" 😆😆😆
@@soldierbreakneck771 What did he invent out of curiousity? I mean if your just talking about his alternate picking and fast arpeggios, that's literally been around for like 400 years lol.
Well to me Joe Satriani is the most melodic guitarist there is within the rock genre. Joe plays with so much soul and every note is emotive and that for me is what I love in a guitarist. Not just mindless speed that means nothing and doesn't touch the soul.
Uhoh, someone hasn’t done their homework on Buckethead 🐓
Crystal Planet and Engines of Creation, I loves thoses albums, brilliant work by Joe Satriani
But Joe also often plays the same repetitive stuff using legato technique
Shawn lane? Or Guthrie Govan?
Malmsteen is fast, but who can listen to soulless techniques for very long? I don't care about perfect techniques when you can get incredible emotion from great style. People talk about Jimmy Page being sloppy, but his work is far and away much better and more listenable than anything ego dude has ever done. Page live is also mostly improvisation and his choices are just plain cool, missed notes and all. 😊
I remember a interview with Joe Satriani and Kirk in a guitar magazine, where they both talked about how they used to listen to Malmsteen's Black Star over and over.
Is that the one with both of them on the cover?
Yeah, I think so. It was quite a while ago
Yes I'm pretty sure that when Kirk came to Joe Satriani and brought him Yngwie Malmsteen's demo tape, Joe didn't have any clue how Yngwie plays and what techniques he uses. So he didn't teach Kirk how to play like Yngwie, he probably showed him just the harmonic minor scale. So Kirk had to give up wanting to play like Yngwie.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Joe was big on the idea of not teaching the flavor of the week and for his students to develop their own style
Listen to Kirk's solos and you'll realise Yngwie was not wrong. There are some from the early catalogue that are great, well constructed solos (Blackened stands out). However, those moments of melodic genius are rare and you have to question whether he has a very musical ear at all. He really hasn't evolved his style either, and has instead just doubled down on the boring, non-melodic and stale pentatonic stuff. There are other notes on the fretboard Kirk! Maybe ignoring colour and tension notes is his way of not screwing up melodically.
You are correct. The only solos that are great were the ones that Bob Rock made him redo over and over again until they were perfect. Listen to today's solos compared to the ones with Bob, and you'll hear it.
It's funny that people can't take the Metallica criticism even when they are valid. And Justice For All really got me into metal but I can admit there's lots of songs where Lars sounds bad and the solos and whack. It's ok; Metallica is still one of the most important bands ever.
That's nice. I'd rather listen to Kirk play than this weirdo. Donut boy has never written a solo as beautiful as Fade To Black. Kirk has written more iconic and inspirational solos than this clown. Only guitar nerds who think if you play fast and are super technical make you good like this guy.
Kirk Hammett is out of key on his solo in “Shortest Straw” and I’m surprised the band didn’t make him re-do that one. But his playing on Kill ‘Em All LP? Pure fire.
False @@jeremymcclure3372
For a man who has been making an entire career with only one minor scale and the same diminished arpeggios licks, it's not surprising He became fast.
You're proving that your hearing is bad Junior. Listen to Teaser - not one single harmonic minor or diminished lick to be found. Every fill in that song is major pentatonic. There's no harmonic minor in the solo. Dragonfly as well, not one harmonic minor or diminished. And there are a lot of songs from Yngwie with no harmonic minor.
Kirk used the pentatonic over and over. Why can't Kirk know it?
@@joecancer6013 Zakk Wylde does it better, so does Doug Aldrich!
You have no idea what you are talking about haha
Malmsteen used a lot of scales, arpeggios and modes... Kirk never got good on his only pentatonic...
No one ever compares themselves to anyone. There is enough room in the guitar world for many players. Happily we have have so many great players and styles to not say whom is the best. It is apples and oranges, sometimes bananas and limes. Have an acceptance to the fact that we have so many amazing players , styles and palates. It makes music that much more enthralling and wonderful!
If you walk into any guitar store, you can recognize a Metallica song within the first 6 notes.
You might hear someone play some Yngwie, but it’s not going to stick in your mind like a Metallica riff.
Listen Rising Force…
Metallica writes better songs but YM is a far more talented guitar player than KH.
@@sole__doubt Nope,I think Yngwie's songs are just totally different, very melodic and with a classic song structure (verse,bridge,chorus etc)....it's just a matter of taste.
yes,but the crowd stands around the Yngwie guy incl the chicks
@@noworries12 No its not about taste. Its about records sales.
Each one of these players has their own style and they play good for their own style at the end of the day that's all that matters
Possibly Yngwie is the best Guitar player on the planet but just the main riff from Enter Sandman is bigger than Malmsteen's entire career.
I think, the Rising Force riff is bigger, than the whole career of Metallica…😉🤷♂️
@@Tocesz 🤣 ok dude.
go listen to icarus dream suite
The commercial success of that song has nothing to do with the Kirk Hammetts chops though.
Malmsteen's career, lol! He can't even sell out venues of a few hundred people in recent years while Metallica still sells out stadiums. Hell even 1990s, Swedish death metal prog metal band, Opeth can come to the USA in recent years and sellout the Red Rock Amphitheater venue of 9000 plus. Yngwie Malmsteen isn't even close to the popularity of fellow Swedish metal band Opeth so to compare them with mega metal band Metallica? Lol!
Dave Mustaine said it best when he mentioned that David Gilmour can do more with 1 note than Malmsteen can do with the entire fretboard.
lmao, i remember when this interview happened, i didnt agree but i got where Yngwie was coming from, first time i heard Kirk i felt the same then i grew to understand his style.
I analyzed many of Kirk's solos and he does use some notes and phrases beyond the scale which other guitarists don't use and it sounds great! Moreover, even Joe Satriani said that he could hear Hammett begin to use more exotic scales as Metallica’s career and music advanced. 🎸🎸🎸
Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha what exotic scales would those be??
@@trance9158 The wrong notes. 😂
@@joecancer6013 hahaha hahaha hahaha now that sounds about right!! 👍
Yngvie is amazing and unique. His technique is impeccable and perfect beyond anyone else’s. And he’s unbelievably fast.
There’s hardly any point in Yngvie, or anyone else, making comparisons. It’s like comparing Chopin with Bach.
Good music has components in multiple dimensions. Speed and precision are among many different elements of expression.
"If yngwie was in Metallica, he'd have ruined all their songs."
Yeah, thankfully, yngwie only ruined all his own songs.
That's not right, he fare well with Alcatrazz and Derek Sherinian.
I think he gave his best under other ones guidance.
Honestly respect to these guys. They are giants in the guitar world and they absolutely slay on the fretboard. But I love Kirk's solos, I couldn't care less if they are "overdone or basic" they fit and sound great and I will always remember them.
I agree, Kirk is a very good guitarist and he played brilliantly at some Metallica's live shows like 'Day on the Green' and 'Cunning Stunts'
I dunno they always seemed to lack a certain wow factor for me. Hell, even Cliff recognized it. During the Master of Puppets tour, he was actually considering getting the other guys to bring back Mustaine but we all know what happened to prevent that.
Rest in Power, Cliff.
@@professormonty5111where’d you see/hear that ? That would have been a pretty wild turn of events if not for said obstacle in the road
Even the people that can play like Yngwie can't play like him , he is incredibly solid , such command of the instrument has only been accomplished by Michael Romeo , who also has developed a very personal style.
And Yngwie was the first and original. The guys who can play like Yngwie copy his style and play his music.
But he plays neo classical with Blackmore riffs and that’s it
@@SvenTviking Wrong. There is easily more of a Uli Roth influence than Blackmore. And there is also an Al DiMeola influence in his picking, as well as a Holdsworth influence in his legato work. Not to mention that so much of his playing & composition is heavily influenced by Bach and Vivaldi. And arpeggios heavily influenced by Paganini. I get so tired of hearing uneducated people regurgitate the same old crap about Yngwie. Clueless!
Not to mention he does play with huge rings, heavy bracelets, watches.... Us musicians know how difficult it can be, I personally couldn't play at the same condotions. Malmsteen is not ma favorite guitarist but his covers had a major role in my guitar formation it looked unreal that fat hand moving so comfortable to look slow and the notes that cane out.
In those last years I noticed that he got back in shape, hope he stopped with alcool. Best wishes to Yngwe and Kirk, they're both great in their own way.
@@SvenTviking yeah no, how the fuck have you still not listened to Deep Purple and Rainbow???
Well, to be frank, they are all awesome and I'm glad they all have a platform to share their amazing music... and I would like to say if you haven't heard Estas Tonne ( Beyond). You literally feel transported to a higher realm of being....thank you!!!!
How frank of you ! 🫡
When you hear one of malmsteen's leads you've heard them all
But you'll never play them all. He is just too good at what he does. no one shreds like him.
@@viktormedina4631 malmsteen couldn't play A melodic lead if his life depended on it
@@garyhughes5356 You are deaf. Doubtless you didn't bother to listen to most of Yngwie's material because you had your mind made up already. I could point out so many melodic solos on his many many albums. To you it all sounds the same, because your ear is deficient, unfortunately.
Yeah right! Tell THAT to Shawn Lane or Michael Angelo Batio or a whole slew of GREAT shredders 😂😂😂
@@josepharchuleta3129 they all sound the same and do the same thing
Yngwie the type of guy that brings out his nerdy critical opinion in front of the crew, and everyone is like: "Yeah, whatever..." and then he goes away to cry in the corner...
He goes and cries in his Ferrari LOL
@@rodrigobelinchon2982 and then cries alone in his Ferrari.
That was a very enjoyable story with a lot of facts and stuff that I did not know and I found that interesting also for years I've been ripping on Yngwie Malmsteen and I saw them in concert one time and it was let's just say we left after 10 minutes so anyways enough said thank you
Thanks for the story telling Karren !! I never heard all this before !! Sure live performances can be bad somtimes , depending on thhe energy we have , your right , Kirk first solo that Yngwie heard first was not his best then ... Rock on mate !!!
Thank you Christophe for checking out, much appreciated! Rock on!!!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Nobody beats evh..idc how fast you play
@@bls8959 Lots of guitarists beat EVH, he didn't progress much after the early 80's, he was more of a showman and generally used simple patterns and triads instead of scales and modes.... An I like Eddies playing, blows Hammett out of the water....
@@MickH60 he didn't need to progress...it was his style that he created that all these ppl that you mentioned..ya there are guitarist that past his skills but without Eddie they would even exist
@@MickH60 it isn't about who's technically better it's about who had the biggest impact..hell I play better than Eddie but that's means nothing...not to mention Eddie could actually write songs while most of those guitarists couldn't and thats what it's really about
Back then yngwie wasnt the humble down to earth man that he still isnt today.
This is an interesting story. I never heard it before and i have been a fan of Metallica and Yngwie since aroun 87. Thanks for sharing. 🎸😎🤟
Jealousy is a terrible trait to have. When it comes to rock and roll/metal, I’d rather hear someone play from the heart.
Every player is an individual. And Yngwie Is a monster on the instrument.
I love my life for METALLIC and I love every bit of their materials since day one especially the stuffs from James, but YNWIE is absolutely right about KIRK 🤟😂🤟 but this doesn’t stop me supporting METALLICA 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
Who gives a sh*t about Yngwie opinion? To be a musician is something different than playing at sonic speed.
Cool, bro! 😌👌
@4:55 the look on Kirk's face in the picture as the narrator reads Malmsteen's critique of his playing is just fitting 😂
One plays stadiums and One plays in theaters but both are great in their genres
I want to live in the alternate timeline where yngwie joined metallica instead of kirk
I'd rather hear a guy like Alex Skolnick in Metallica!!!! OH MY, every Metallica solo would have been soooo much better. Alex would fit in with the band, Yngwie is too much of a douche to be a team player in a band.
Could Malmsteen write the solo to The Thing That Should Not Be, Blackened, The Unforgiven or Orion? I don't mean technicality, I mean the creative inspiration that makes you sing those solos.
@@CassiniProjekt idk, probably, he’s melodic as fuck and much more articulate with his note choices. I believe the standard listener wouldn’t give a fuck, but guitarists everywhere would actually have something interesting to listen to from Metallica’s catalog.
@@CassiniProjekt you shoukd listen to his solos in Alcatrazz album, and see what he's capable of on other ones material.
Hell no!
I think Kirk did really good for the first five albums. I actually like his solos on those albums. I don't get all the hate.
At Day on the Green in 1985, Kirk played really great. I love the solo he played at the end of 'For Whom The Bell Tolls', sounds amazing!
I miss those concerts.
There is no hate. Just opinions expressed. I'm sure Malmsteen has moved way beyond jealousy for other players and Kirk has done the same. Yngwie acknowledges his superiority as a guitar player and Kirk acknowledges his "coolness" on guitar solos. And fans do too.
@@dimitrisargyropoulos6912 I love both their solos. Trilogy is my favorite Malmsteen album.
When I first heard Kirk back in the 80's as an untrained musician, what I appreciated the most about Kirk was his phrasing. He played with passion. Fade to Black is a classic example how each lick flowed into the next -- continually. If that song didn't actually fade to black, Kirk could have played for two more hours. I wanted to like Yngwie more. His playing impressed me, but it didn't touch me. That is the difference. Kirk played solos that matched the energy of the song. It is that simple. Yngwie was always arrogant. Of course is really good, but he misses the human touch. He is someone to watch and listen to as a bystander or spectator -- full of wonder sometimes, but he doesn't connect with the listener making them feel like they are in the song. That is the difference.
Aren't a lot of riffs and solos on the first 3 Metallica albums actually Mustaine? As in he wrote them. Mustaine said on Joe Rogan podcast that Metallica kept using his stuff even though he told them not to when he left the band.
@@noless Not exactly. There is no doubt that the solo structures were established on Kill 'em All. I heard Mustaine's Hit the Lights solo on Metallica's demo that landed on a thrash compilation album. There is no doubt Kirk followed that pretty closely, and probably that could be said for their first album. Hammet only had a few weeks to get the solos down for the album after being called in last minute. I don't doubt Mustaine's riffs were sourced to write other songs on RTL, and maybe a riff or two on Masters, but that would not be fair to say that Kirk Hammet played Dave Mustaine solos for the first three albums.
Generation AXS was amazing to see Yngwie and Vai on stage together, not to mention having Zakk
I wouldn't even put Yngwie in my top 10 list. There, I said it.
I've never heard Satriani play sloppy, Yngwei is a slopgod
I've never heard him play a wrong note, ever !
Satch plays like a fucking robot. I mean with his precision. His bends hit perfect almost every damn time. I've never seen Joe play sloppy.
I purchased Malmsteen's album, Rising Force, in the 80s; I wasn't blown away by the songwriting or that Neo Classical thing he was doing. I chuck it up to the fact that Van Halen was my #1 band at the time, so I was already listening to out of this world guitar playing, and I had been listening to Zep and Hendrix even before VH--plus I lived in a neighborhood where guys were blasting Funk along with Judas Priest and Zeppelin. I also shared a house with a fantastic Classical pianist, but he was also experimental--something I didn't hear Malmsteem doing to my 18 year old ears. Also, I saw Metallica around that time opening for Ozzy, Cliff Burton on bass. It was luke warm for me at the time; though, I was already playing Metallica and Motorhead for a year, it really didn't hit me as to what they were doing until much later. I love Metallica now as a band, I think they are fantastic and still writing great music; though, I think Megadeath is much better--better overall musicians and songwriting. I still can't stand Malmsteen's music, in fact I bailed on it first album. But I study his videos on UA-cam, not for style or flash, but because I've come to appreciate his exceptional fretboard awareness.
@@stringer29 so what I didn't like the album, I'm more Blues Rock oriented guy; hence, 79 to about 82 Van Halen appeals more to sensibility. But guess what, I know guys that don't like Van Halen because they say he's not as Bluesy as Hendrix. The world keeps turning. Not only did I buy the album, I was one of the first to buy it when folks didn't even know how to pronounce the name--called him Yungwe and everything else under the sun. The guys who were there in the 80s, maybe saw an article in Guitar Player know what I'm talking about.
Grunge didn’t hurt Yngwie’s popularity. He did it to himself by rotating singers. His follow up to Odyssey should have been big, but he released Eclipse without Joe Lynn Turner and though it was ok, it did not have the hooks like Odyssey.
Technically Yngwie is better than Kirk, I don't think anyone would debate that. However, his style gets boring really fast. Kirk plays with more soul, and his work on AJFA, MOP, and RTL is in my opinion often underrated. He may not use the most technically advanced scales and techniques, but his solos, especially on AJFA are really creative and inspired a lot of people, including myself, to pick up the guitar.
I've been saying for 30 years that Kirk Hammett is always about 1/4 step off key. Glad to hear the maestro validate what I already knew.
Yeah well, the “Maestro” is worth about 5 million dollars and Kirk is worth a quarter billion.
Yep YEp & YUP!
that 1/4 is the feel/emotion of trash metal.. That's his brand.. Nothing wrong with that for me.. And millions of people...
@@Wargasm54 Even then Yngwie started out rich
Fastest guitarists rankings:
#1 Michael Angelo Batio
#2 Jason Becker
#3 Jennifer Batten
#4 Bucket-Head
#5 Paul Gilbert
#6 Yngwie Malsteen
I like all three a lot, also all three changed the game to some extent. What's great about guitar is that it being probably the most expressive instrument everyone plays idiosyncratically different.
We should thank them all for bringing new things and inspiration to a new breed of guitar players around the world. Malmsteen is a virtuoso...Satriani is a genious and Kirk is a millionaire......
"He blew our minds, I tried to study his techniques, but figured out I can't play like him, so I got mad and stopped trying." Same bro. Same
Yngwie reminded me of auditions where some guy would walk in and out play the entire bunch... but you knew he couldn't be in a band.
I was a teenager when i figured out what yngwie didnt as an adult. Its an art, not engineering. Even engineering has a purpose, make the thing work. Over engineering does nothing for the root solution, it only introduces excess complexity. An art is even more susceptible to over complexity for no gain. I plateued on guitar in my late teens, but I enjoy what I can play. i actually will listen to the music I can play in the car, occasionally. I listen to yngwie and was blown away, but it missed the art of music. Its like seeing a huge beautiful clock with intricate carvings and excessive cogs, but never wanting to use it for its time keeping because you have a simple digital clock. Kirk and joe built much more melodic and enjoyable songs.
A simple counter point to yngwie is the musicality and under appreciated "rest". It is a note, it carries weight, it adds or relieves tension. It takes no talent, but it takes an artist to use them correctly to created the desired result.
Ah the subjectivity of art. What a simple teenage concept to understand. Psychology of ego is more adult and evolving concept.
Oh my favorite analogy of excessive complexity is the ww2 panzer vs the simple sherman. Was excessive complexity beneficial?
I’m not a musician, but I am a lover of music. I have heard a number of Yngwie songs and have ALWAYS felt unmoved, as if he was all show and not an ounce of emotion. While I am not the rabid Metallica fan I was as a teenager, I can say that their early albums had (and still) produce chills to this (almost) 52 year old guy!
Agreed. I around the same age and can tell you the circumstances when I first heard Metallica and thrash in general. It was my freshman year and one of my buddies cousins put in a Metallica 📼📻 cassette and we were like 🤯 The only thing I remember about Malmsteen is when this kid we jammed with tried to convince us Malmsteen was the new thing. I just heard a blur of notes and wasn't too impressed. 🥱 Its not even like I wasn't into instrumental cause Vai has been my top two with Stevie Ray. Its also kinda ironic for Malmsteen to criticize Kirk as just scales.
Black Star doesn't have emotion?
Paul Gilbert was also in that same issue's spotlight.
I like the way Yngwie puts J in his name, so you won't confuse him with all the other Yngwie Malmsteens in the business.
4:14
Kirk is a master songwriter even if he is very pentatonic. Yngwie is a perfectionist I understand his view because I am also
It's not virtuosity that sells. It's songs. That's why all these shredders will never be anything more than hired guns. I have 5 YJM albums and I can say there is no growth in his playing. Kirk is a good guitarist and he brings to the band what is required. Some of the best guitarists don't even play lead. Lead is only a tiny aspect of guitar playing. It's like the icing on the cake. When I play a song it's the lyrics and melody I notice first. The solo is the last and least important aspect of any song.
I'm pretty sure 💯 that when Kirk came to Joe Satriani and brought him Yngwie Malmsteen's demo tape, Joe didn't have any clue how Yngwie plays and what techniques he uses. So he didn't teach Kirk how to play like Yngwie, he probably showed him just the harmonic minor scale. So Kirk had to give up wanting to play like Yngwie.
I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE YNGWIE J. MALMSTEEN, JOE SATRIANI, STEVE VAI AND BILLY SHEEHAN ON THE G3 TOUR....... ABSOLUTELY AMAZING PLAYERS ALL OF THEM.YNGWIE CLEARLY WAS THE BEST PLAYER.❤️🙏
He can play fast that's all
Syu from Galneryus is my fav guitar Player in Angel of Salvation he soloing a full part of tchaikovsy I also like it when guitar player play parts of Real classical
pieces
John Petrucci is great too
Alternate picking is great
I don't buy the idea that Kirk's sole reason for not wanting to dig into Yngwie's style was related to not wanting to sound like Yngwie. There were many players who were influenced by Yngwie, such as Paul Gilbert, who have gone on to develop something different in their own right. I also don't see Yngwie's comments about Kirk, as having to be driven by bank account jealousy, because there are many players (such as Brian May) who have a lot more money than Yngwie, for which Yngwie has high regard. I have read through many of the comments that imply that Yngwie is boring to listen to. Personally, I will not disagree as I have grown bored with his playing. He has not broadened his musical palette in 40 years. While he has arguably more technical prowess than he did when he was 18, I believe that he has lost feel, which I find to be a shame. Frankly, I would liked to have seen Yngwie expand in a way that a player such as Greg Howe did, but I believe that when players become very successful, they often develop a level of complacency. In context, there are many great players out there, who don't have a fraction of the money that Yngwie has amassed. Sadly, Allan Holdsworth's family had a gofundme to cover funeral expenses. Thus, any arguments equating net worth to influence or skill don't hold any weight in my book and while music is subjective, I largely agree with his assessment of Kirk. I like Metallica, but with few exceptions I am not a fan of Kirk's solos. I think that somebody like Marty Friedman would add so much more.
Maybe Yngwie has bank account envy.
Donut envy
Doubtful.
@The Frog King I figure Yngwie does not need a part-time gog at Taco Bell to get by. However, Kirk likely makes more per month than Yngwie makes in a year. That said, Kirk likely spends a lot more on donuts. Let us pray.
Maybe
Yeah none of his albums came nowhere close to selling as many as any Metallica album.
Like him or not, no one plays and shreds like Yngwie. He is also very melodic and plays with emotion, even at that speed. No one can pick all those notes like he does. I haven't heard anyone do it like him.
Btw, beware. Playing Yngwie for a few years gave me all the tendinitis and tunnel syndromes in both hands and arms known to men. Jesus Christ!
You should stop playing that lame stuff then. Yngwie sucks
@@Fiveash-Art LMFAO! I'll play Green Day then. I bet you headbang to them.
@@viktormedina4631 I don't "headbang" to anything these days .. but if I did, it wouldn't be Green Day, and it most definitely wouldn't be to the wankery of Yngwie.
@@Fiveash-Art Please don't stop. You've really made my day. You're so amusing. LMFAO
@Fiveash-Art Btw, my bad. I got it wrong. You headbang to Shakira.
😂😂😂I got mad and stopped trying 😂😂😂and justices for all was my last album I supported, but I’m happy for their success ❤❤❤I’m Yngwie’s fan for ever and never get numb of hearing or seeing his playing… how good is Queen’s Rytchie.
I'm so glad you talked over the interview telling us what they said instead of letting us hear what they said. Terrible.
In the 38 years ive listened to Metallica I've never heard Kirk out of tune or use bad choice of notes, this is a paradox I don't understand.
To be fair his bends on kill em all were out of tune and bad intonation. Kirk even admits it, but I personally love kill em all
Then you need to start paying more attention:)
@@franks1986 every player must have it when put under the scope to some extent then.
@@Chaos46992 umm he is obviously out of tune and he uses bad choice of notes.
You don’t need to put him under scope to notice it.
He’s constantly out of tune on his bends and his vibrato is horrendous.
Kirk's has some of the most iconic and memorable solos in metal music .
It's lame how bands like metallica are shitted on because they don't play as fast or difficult. I don't care what anyone says no metal band made anything as legendary or jaw dropping as them.
This, but also many many takes
@@Taylor.Dude. i rather listen to the licks and amazing solo than listen to kurt cobain play like amateur level of lil wayne lol. nirvana are for f@gss
@Your Neighbor
Are you high? 😂😂
Kirk Hammett isn't the greatest guitar player but he's the right lead guitar player in Metallica. I can't imagine Master Of Puppets or Ride The Lightning without Kirk's lead playing. Thousands of people sing his solos. Nobody sings Yngwie's solos.
Kirk's bends are pretty rough
Einstein: Nothing is faster than light.
Malmsteen: Hold my beer.
Science: Is that background radiation?
What Yngwie seems not to understand, I'd be surprised if it's really the case, Joe is using scale modes all long. That's what makes him unique.
And Malmsteen use phrygian dominant, which is a mode too. So what…? 🤔🤷♂️
Yeah I think so. Lots of people were inspired by Yngwie's style. I know that for me that sharped seventh was exactly what I wanted to hear. Kirk sounded pretty cool when he was playing Mustaine's leads. And he did some cool stuff when he was still studying with Joe. But he never really sounded great to me. Yngwie on the other hand recorded about five albums that I think are excellent.
It seems like as soon as people become successful they lose the fire. I'm not sure what Yngwie is doing singing for himself. He, Uli, Zakk. They need a singer. When you're that established find someone who is a dedicated singer.
Yngwie is a snooze fest, does the same shit every album, perfect technique. Zero personality, would rather listen to the composers he plagiarized from.
Yngwie is a snooze fest, does the same shit every album, perfect technique. Zero personality, would rather listen to the composers he plagiarized from.
Yngwie is a snooze fest, does the same shit every album, perfect technique. Zero personality, would rather listen to the composers he plagiarized from.
It's hard enough playing in tune & on time, lead guitar is supposed to accentuate the song, not show off, I'm a fan of music, love it, dedication & determination will always shine through, music is what feelings sound like 😊
Wow, thank you very much for this history!