Instead of having a cylindrical generator like that, maybe it would be better to just use a more normal round one. With the current you need to accelerate and deaccelerate the inertia constantly. With a round you could make a kind of a geared ratchet system, or one way bearings, which then spins up the generator, and like a bike like a bike then cruise when not pedaling. With that you could also add a flywheel to store more energy while the branch is changing direction.
Ooh, I kind of like this idea. Converting the oscillating branch motion into rotation of a sort of flywheel. The trick would be making a way so every motion is used to "pump" energy into the system. With the ratcheting wheel arrangement, it seems like you'd only be putting energy into it half the time, whereas the linear generator works with input from any motion. 🤔 I feel like I did see somewhere where someone made a bike that moves forward whether you pedal forward or backwards, though... I wonder what that mechanism is called.
@@mikeydkIn theory it should work. In practice, in my opinion, due to the way bicycles are conceived, the backwards pedalling cannot deliver any usable power, not as great, anyway, as the forward one.
@@gaetanoroccuzzo I don't think you understand what I mean. The bicycle reference was only for the way it can cruise while no power is applied to the input of the wheel hub. With the system I am talking about you got multiple bearings, which lock up when rotating one direction and act as a bearing in the opposite. You then orient them on the shaft in a way so you can pull from any direction, and the pulling motion will be applied to the shaft. Once the pulling stroke has reached its max it can freely return to the start position and be ready to be pulled again, kind of like rowing a boat. Engage, pull, disengage. It don't even have to be done in sync either.
@@mohammedothman5667a lot of people know electricity and want to become a engineer, how are you different from the others? Also what does joining a non existent, theoretical group for?
i read a book on mythical creatures when i was like 10 and this is how gnomes would power mills and simple machines they would attach a rope and pully on tall grass or plants. the swaying on the grass would pull the rope and spin a mill
This is why imaging fantasy technology with various kinds of limitations is great, what may seem inefficient and pointless at first glance might just be better in a more holistic system/solution
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsI think a life cycle analysis would be a good way to justify implementing the device. That analysis would highlight its benefits over a traditional turbine, (less intrusive, shade, natural habitat, less mining resources required, etc.) some data on exactly how much power is produced over time would help prove out the concept
I did a similar thing once, using the swaying of a tree to pull a long cylindrical pump to pump water uphill. I was absolutely thrilled that it actually worked even though it pumped a uselessly tiny amount of water.
As a systems engineer I like the natural side of this. This is like a wind turbine but still offers habitats, shade, green space, and air purification. I’d love to see what the optimized version’s power output would be and compare the cost per Watt to conventional energy generation as well as a life cycle analysis (LCA), which could account for some of the benefits the tree system offers(less intrusive, takes up less space, etc) I think this sort of nature-first design would fare very well from that perspective.
I think that is where a lot of the people comparing the output of this generator to the output of a wind turbine are tripping up. This system is not just putting out power, it is adding power generation to a system that already does: air filtration, oxygen generation, temperature control (via shade), animal habitation, and material generation. It is many times more useful than a wind turbine which only produces power, even if the power it produces is not comparable.
It's hard to explain but basically imagine tree as this huge lever. You need to choose your lever wisely. Imagine a forest, where each tree is set upon cube of dirt. The cubes are connected with spring loaded walls or with fluid. Each cube can be moved by swaying tree with highest lever while not uprooting the tree right? You receive energy underneath roots.
@@elijahclifford863 A) How much energy does it take to build this apparatus? B) How much Energy can it yield over it's lifetime? C) If A Exceeds B, why are you doing this?
If you put a strap around the tree, make sure it have enough stretch. If it rigid, it really kills the tree because it cuts the fluid flow under bark, where most of it happen. Unlike many people think, it's not bad for a tree to screw something on it. It makes only minimum hole on a bark and wood itself is pretty much dead mass. Rope or a strap, which has been forgotten on place for few years, makes massive damage or possibly kill the whole tree.
As an electrical engineer who studied a lot of physics this has potential. The best use case scenario is going to be in locations that are more tree dense like a forest. This will never be as energy efficient as a wind turbine. Let me explain. Wind is your source of energy and if applied directly to a wind turbine the energy losses are in the friction of the bearings, heat and resistance due to magnetic forces of your generator. This device will occur the same losses but now introduce the energy losses produced by the branches of the tree. My suggestion use gears to change the force horizontal and make a more traditional small generator. Design a gear differential found similar to a car but reverse it where either side that moves powers the single shaft of a generator. Keep up the good work and would love to see how this develops.
Except that in the case of the wind turbine you have to build the fan and it's pedestal. It could actually be more efficient despite the losses, because of the decreased build cost.
As an arborist I would have to say that coniferous trees (spruce trees especially with very stiff needles) transfer most of the energy directly into the bending of the main trunk, and thus, contain more ‘harvestable’ energy than a deciduous tree that looses more energy to the vibration of their leaves. Tapping into the energy at the tip of a spruce tree has a lot of power generation potential. Just ask any arborist who regularly climbs to the top of conifers on a regular basis, a 200lb payload gets tossed around like nothing on a windy day.
Hey, I had a similar project once. Our conclusion was that there is too little energy to ever become cost-efficient. But we had different approach and also left out some possible favourable factors and fields of use, so hopefully you'll get closer to success. Some ideas: 1) Harvesting movement of trees relative to each other and connecting it to same mechanism (connecting trees to each other with same ropes). 2) A "crane battery" instead of linear generator to save on conversion losses - mechanically winching a weight up and letting it go back down through a normal spinning generator. 3) Same but with a flywheel instead: tree movement spins flywheel up to x rpm, generator switches on, speed decreases until y rpm, generator switches off, repeat. 4) Invent variable gearing system to get most of both quiet and windy days. If tree pulls string strong, high gear ratio is selected to get max energy from same movement. If tree is pulling weak, low gearing is selected to still be able to use it, not stall from too much system resistance.
@@afterthefact6708 Therfor the question might be when to use such a desperate idea, and I came up with the idea of a situation where resources are limited and the need for energy is minimal.
2) A "crane battery" instead of linear generator to save on conversion losses - mechanically winching a weight up and letting it go back down through a normal spinning generator. people in rural Africa use this to light their homes. they have a rock on a string, they pick the rock up to the ceiling, and let go and it slowly drops over the course of a few hours and powers the lights and stuff, and then they pick it up again when it gets to the ground. free electricity for just picking up a rock 3-4x a day. pretty good imo
also the devices used to attach to tree could be almost free, or made with remodified waste items. just powering a single modem, or I-phone would be fine, perhaps if you could make enough power for a laptop it would make it about break even in terms of time and money put into the project...
Here's an idea. A strain gauge utilizes deformation to vary resistance. Similarly, you could wrap a tube with liquid up/around a tree, and the deformation of the wood would cause the fluid pressure to vary inside the tube. This pressure could then be converted to linear movement using a piston. Use four valves to create a liquid rectifier if needed.
Tie a weight lifting ratchet between two trees. As the trees move, a weight is lifted and released when at the top, spinning a more conventional generator located on the ground between those trees
While it may have a better power output, it negates the goal of having the centripetal design that is near invisible. tripping hazard and is less fortified by the tree, which would prevent the generator from being damaged. Good Idea though. Maybe if we had them on post between the trees, raised, it would be safer, less of a hazard, and relatively out of view
The bottom cap needs drain holes for rain if this thing actually stays outside, otherwise the magnet bar will get hydro-locked and something will probably break. Probably want some sort of boot or bushing at the top to minimize the amount of rain going in there too. A dust boot at both ends of a through-rod would help keep it centered, kind of like how speakers keep their coil centered.
I mentioned this idea 10 or so years back to a renewables expert who pretty much shot it down in flames. I think your concept is fantastic. Its just sad that some people can't think outside the box. Very best wishes for future success. New subscriber here.
I wouldn't really be super interested in this concept for real power generation because it has had power density but it's no worse than a giant wind turbine really there is a concept similar to this which is kite based and already works pretty great
this project is really intriging and it's a good practice for creativity and design, however its just wind power with extra steps not feasible for practical power generation. However think of this as ultra efficent power harnessing for some niche situtations say power for forest fire detectors in a remote dense forest . Just not for large scale power generation.
@@robertsolomon3328 Or maybe they're smarter and more creative, which allows them to see the dozen or so issues with power generation at scale with such a "solution". Just to name a few - Trees grow, travel will change over time until cables either snap or remain in tension. - Access. Trees tend to be in forests, so it becomes complicated to outfit a million or so trees in uneven or sometimes inaccessible terrains. - Unreliable. You need hundreds of these (or more) with possibly thousands of individual parts to work correctly for decades at a time without breaking, just to compare the output to a single small wind turbine or solar panel. - Movement is not hard to find in nature, the issue is not making electricity, it's converting intermittent signals into a constant reliable one, which translates to storage becoming the key element, not the generation itself. - Nuclear exists, and is simply cheaper and more efficient in every possible measure. It's a cool mechanism, but that about the extent of its usefulness.
The real power in the tree would be from potential torque rather than plain old movement. A geared generator that requires high force to function should yield more output. Car windshield wiper mechanism comes to mind.
I do not disagree with that! I think it comes all down to finding a good balance between nature and technology to get the most out of the tech without destroying nature of course
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I think we have to be careful with visually polluting the countryside when it comes to windmills and solar panels. There are far better technologies with respect to small foot print, high energy output such as en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor however economics and of course politics tends to overrule what makes sense. There is no harm in the individual performing green projects for their home and property however we really don't want large corporations buying up chunks of the countryside to slab over with metal panels or large unsightly towers. We have had the means of producing cheap power for many years however the current system uses energy as another form of taxation on the common man.
@@HASCAN_PRIME Here in the UK where I am right now the evening has just passed and the weather or atmosphere is like soup with no sun and a very fine drizzle rain falling within a breezeless 16C temp. Sitting here contemplating where there may be a potential difference to exploit with respect to the subject at hand, there is very little I can come up with other than pointing at heat source pumping which of course we know loses efficiency as demand increases plus there is no commercial equipment available as of yet that converts any heat gain in to useable or storable electricity. Thinking outside the box, here is an idea. Leveraging nature, evolution and gene therapy we could bread hamsters where only the best runners are selected. If we then manufacture hamster wheels using fidget spinner bearings and couple them direct to micro generators, I’m sure there would be some worth while usable output over a given hamster lifespan. Although the output would probably be quite small, if we were to massively scale, such a solution could easily obtain Megawatt figures (think of shipping containers with the label Rodent Rodio on the side). In order to fuel the hamsters I am thinking a really good chemist could come up with some sort of enzyme that would break down plastics in to some form of digestible compound. We could also feed them other scraps from our tables in order to fulfil the proverb ‘where there is muck, there is brass’. Good morning from the UK, hope I made you smile. 🙂
I agree and think you could store up the energy into a gravity battery by lifting some mass with a ratcheting mechanism to hold it up until ready and then allow it to slowly fall down while discharging (i.e. while charging your phone)
@@K3POit's interesting but wouldn't beat a flywheel with a high torque conversion.. unless you could predict your own usage and high/low wind times w AI.
bro you should call this power, tree-hugging power. look at it hug the tree. please make the brace into cartoon arms. you can maybe keep working on this and sell it to green-campers as the tree hugger generator, if you could make it easy to produce u could make linking multiple trees in series (like solar panels are linked in series) to multiply power. tree hugging concerto. loved the video. best video ive seen this year... wholesome, simple and genius
Extremely innovative 💡 I am going to order the tree project from your website today. I love how you think outside the box. Extremely unique, i love the linear motor. Awesome build. 👍
@@bambihasantlers4744 you I was joking. Also Netherlands probably doing more helping nature than 90% countries in the world by working with nature. It’s joke about how more than third Netherlands land was man made. Also they’re really good making sail ship back then so harvest the wind and “conquer” etc.
That ending where you were saying your viewers ideas often would make the project much better, and spreading the vid into 2 parts because of it is such a mega chad move and earned my sub
Use a battery to store the power. Charges when not in use, instant power when needed. You could use a simple phone power bank. But you'll need to rectify the power flow with this set up.
If nothing else, this would be a neat feature for campers. It would give them a chance to charge their electronics while still preserving that "off the grid" aspect of camping.
This is an awesome idea. The real question is: how much energy do you make and at what cost. As much as it might look like a possible solution to the energy problem, sometimes the energy required to make the components is bigger than the system yields in its lifetime. Not to mention ease of install and removal. What I can see as a potential option would be a very cheap, simple and easy to install/remove system that uses the whole trunk's motion to generate substantial amounts of electricity. Then you install this is in a lot of eucalyptus farms. When the harvesting time comes, you remove the system from each tree and take it somewhere else to install it.
This has some serious potential especially for off-the-grid living if applied to lots of trees and a battery for storage. If you live in a plentiful wind area, this would surely be better than a windmill and more reliable than solar. Keep improving. I cannot wait to see progress.
I'm glad someone finally built one of these, I came up with this idea and sketches roughly 20 years ago, and people thought I was crazy, stating that the lines would keep fouling due to falling debris often, and back then I was too lazy to purchase the magnets and wind the coils. And also, mine would have been made out of wood to blend in, where 3d printing makes it a buttload easier to put ideas into practice. Good on you for clearly taking an idea to the prototype stage. ( I actually have many different designs for harnessing energy through notes and sketches, this might in fact give me the kick up the backside to get out and build them. )
There are wind generators that use kites - the kites catch the wind and rise, pulling a cable, then the kite's surfaces are adjusted and it drops back down, where it catches the wind and flies up again. I don't think this helps at all but it's a cool concept.
I literally had the same idea some years ago. I was not able to work it out. I love, that somebody had the capabillity to build this POC. Wish you the best! this would be nice to see a wood around a city, creating the needed elctricity instead of giant wind turbines! The older the trees get, the more energy they could convert. :)
guys a doof wasting time. All he had to do is make some wings put it on the roof and bam same outcome and hundred more times powerful on producing electricity then tie on a tree. Heck he would of gotten more power if he made wings and put them on the tree. Long story short there was no use for a tree in the first place
@@deesmith8576 Yeah and what would that cost?? You are suggesting literally a windmill... The whole point of this is that you barely need any material and use these large structures nature already provided. Its incredibly cheap, which is the reason of the genius. The cost really could outweigh the loss in efficiency, which is the whole point. Go spread your jealousy of whatever you didn't get as a kid somewhere else.
@@HeinGodeke Barely any material? Like half a kilogram of copper wire and rare earth magnets? The efficiency of this thing is abysmally bad, lifting all this weight. Lighting up LEDs is a poor demonstration as well as they require almost no current to run. Overall it's a nice little idea for a school project, but at the end of the day only a really poor wind generator with no usable output. Ever wondered why wind generators in 2024 still look like giant propellers? Hint: It's not because of 'Big Windmills' suppressing any innovation because of reasons.
Goed bezig jonguh!... heb meteen maar effe op abonneren gedrukt,want het is schandalig hoe weinig subs je hebt terwijl het al 153k views heeft gehad....@@ConceptCraftedCreations
I had this same idea about a year ago only I couldn’t think of any way to make it simple and more practical. My sketch literally had a tree with like 30 strings tied down to the actual generator🤣🤣🤣 god bless you for this solution.
I've thought about this for a few years, here in the Swedish forest. I think pines are the easiest trees to use as they are common and move in an what looks like a synchronous way at first, but actually it's generally not. The top of each pine tree is easy to fix into and not used in timber production, so metal darts in it wouldn't really be an issue: The method to fit an electrical generating apparatus would have to be crossbow for efficiency and I suspect the best generator would be something that looks like a snail shell - with one line to hold it to one tree, a second line into the next tree and it would almost 'hang in the middle' or near one tree, with a rotating coil in the shell, and/or even a flywheel. The question really is how to network the trees, using several, or even up to thousands, to produce real, usable power. I suspect this idea has its greatest possibilities for smallholdings and isolated cabins and won't have a serious application beyond complementing solar power setups, but it's worth testing in practice, especially for the dark wintertimes here in the north when light is less available.
I had seen a system that uses a flywheel and it's a centrifugal clutch. The sway of the trees in the breeze kept the flywheel moving which you bleed off for generating power. What you're doing really isn't a stretch from what safran is doing on water. They however are using that linear motion to Pump Air which then powers a turbine.
Brilliant idea ! Really like it . I have a lot of other projects in my mind at the moment, so I just share my first thoughts. 1) I would focus on the trunk movement as it's most heavy (=more energy) 2) I would consider the highest movement of 1 which is horizontally 3) before I engineer some generator, I would test the pull force / movement ratio. Most likely already with a DIY build with a wind speed measure and pull force measure to get an average for wind force - movement - energy coefficient. 4) I would look for the cheapest,but strong enough (safety factor 50% regarding pull force ) rope to put it on the list of product cost. 5) I would head for rotating generators. 6) I would build a MPPT (with testing) for best results of movement - energy output. 7) (just came to my mind) to reduce stress of MPPT I would search for a way to convert a fluctuating energy into a more consistent one (=better MPPT , supposedly more energy (depends on friction etc from such system). 8) finally a prototype. Definitely considering a defined breaking point within the system, such as cable ties and the end of the rope. You don't want to fight against wind force ;) 9) look at the collected data to find weak points. 10) make the first calculation if it's worth it. I would say 30years amortisation is definitely worth looking into it further, as the prototype improves AND (more importantly) build cost get lower with mass production. Just my fist thoughts, happy for discussion or PM
@@deesmith8576 Yes. You are right. It would take forever for the net energy to become positive, but I don't think that should stop this project. Remote areas and post-apocalypse/disaster areas could benefit from this.
Not really, I can’t say much for the rest of the planet, but in Canada the same areas that would benefit from this have the rare magnets as well so it would develop much faster and cheaper. The us i think would be the main non beneficiary of this China also would and is the manufacturer of the world so they definitely need to look into this.
Holy crap I'm so glad you did this! I've been trying get my friend to let me try this on his block, Eucalyptus is absolutely perfect for this, the tops of his trees move so much with massive torque
Three things. 1: capacitors, this set up needs it to help charge things like batteries smoothly. Similar to a water accumulator on a boat or RV. Also a tank circuit could work to for the pause. 2: along with the accumulator you need to feed the generator into a whetstone bridge rectifier using diodes instead of resistors to convert a to DC in order to charge. 3: lastly and most importantly which I don't know what the electrical threshold is if you have noticed trees avoid electricity like from power lines. So I would suggest electromagnetic shielding for the tree as it could affect . Bonus (try using this on a bamboo forest instead. They sway a lot more. Could use outriggers like on a mask towards the top or channels along the shaft like a fishing rod to guide and help convert the sway of a line(the bamboo angular momentum) into linear momentum of the string. Your basically converting a line into a triangle then converting rotation into line movement
Where I live trees love the power lines. They reach for the lines! We call the electric company out every spring to cut them back but, our old tree in the front catches fire every few years anyway.
this is more so for further down the line of development, currently he is trying to make it more efficient and consistent before adding diodes and capacitors.
Fantastic idea. An almost unlimited number can be rigged to a single tree. I made a generator with a dc motor 18volt, from a power tool bought for the purpose, used the core of a shaded pole motor but switched out the rotor for the magnetic rotor from a washing machine drain pump(which gives high voltage when turned as a generator, it easily runs 10 lights before noise is an issue. ) but the shaded pole core lacks a gap so there is no cogging of the magnet, nice and quiet, but the voltage out goes to a 150cc regulator rectifier which charges a new battery and if needed speed it ip and you have a couple of lights too, or a phone charger directly to the shaded poles output could be high enough to power the charger’s circuit.
I got so excited seeing this, imagine you have a large tree in your yard and you strap a handful of these around the base, wire them into a battery system and you’ve got a wicked alternate power source for storm outages, and the same wind that toppled the power poles in the first place will power your house
@orange11squares companies: those skallywags! They give oxygen for free! are they stupid? Also algae makes more oxygen and take much,much, MUCH less space and can eat any environmental hazard with enough time(they can eat plastic now)
CALCULATIONS AND OPTIMALISATION (English) UNDER HERE: Note to Erik: ERIK!!! jij bent echt geniaal, holy shit. Ik heb de video nog niet gekeken, maar ik ga er vanuit dat je de boom een soort windmolen maakt. Zelfs al is het 10000x minder efficient, het is minimaal 100.000x goedkoper en kost ook 5-7 orde van groten minder materiaal, wat intens veel beter is voor het milieu... Waarom iets helemaal maken als de natuur al 99% van het werk heeft gedaan.... Gast... ik snap dat je een youtuber bent, en je moet doen wat je wil, maar dit zou de wereld potentieel echt kunnen helpen als er een bedrijf omheen wordt gebouwd. edit: CALCULATIONS: HI, so i calculated whether this project could be feasible, since it could come close to the costeffectiveness of windmills. I found out that windmills cost 1 euro per Watt they generate. If you look at the average wind force (not speed, its a different calculation), and look only at the 80% most effective trees by height (close to 1250W), and assume a cost of 50 euro's per system including setting them up. You would need to harness 4% of the total force that is put on the tree. Since we can only capture the force of the oscillations of the wind that are on or close to the eigenfrequency of the tree, (a cheap system could only harvest the energy of the trunk, not the individual braches like yours, that wouldn't be viable) i guess we could get a 1% maximum efficiency... So this would in fact be 4x times as expensive (if my 1% guess is correct) then conventional windmills, which is still not bad. Now ill try to debunk myself, i really hope it might be 4% or higher. I mean, since higher winds have a x^2 effect, most energy is going to be harvested from the highest 80percentile of winds, which do oscillate a lot more then the average winds. I would love to see how much watt you can generate at their corresponding windspeeds with your setup, since theory and practice will be really different. I'm willing to put time in this if you are willing to communicate in some way. Again really great idea man! OPTIMALISATION: BTW, if you would try and get the most viable test results I would recommend the following: - Just use an aftermarket dynamo, a flywheel and a system to make bidirectional movement unidirectional. - Don't put the machine on the tree, but on the ground next to it so that the rope is at an 30% angle. - Don't knot the rope to the tree, but put a pully on the tree (at around 80% of the height of the tree). Then put the wire trough it and fasten it back to the ground: at the same 30% angle, but here comes the fun part: From top perspective put it 90degrees from the machine. (To picture it: the machine is at 12 O clock, the tree in the middle of the clock, and the end of the rope at 3 or 9 O'clock) This way you will get the energy from every direction of wind!! (other way to explain it would be to put the generator for a 25m tree around 5m north of it, and fasten the end of the rope 5m east or west) I would implement the proces from movement to energy in this order: Rope > Unify the direction > Use a spring to make the forces more stable and thus effective for the dynamo > small gear-up (so you can use smaller flywheel) > Flywheel > gear to optimize turnspeed expected at 80percentile of windspeed like I noted in the calculations (7m/s i could be wrong) > dynamo, of which you know the optimal turnspeed for efficiency. EDIT: Windmills cost around 3.50 per watt they generate, not 1, my bad. This makes it so we only need to harness 1% of the wind energy from the tree. To make the Watt/Cost ratio the same as industrial windmills. Also, I'm sorry, but you're going to have to climb my man... be safe :) Edit nr. 5 or something: You need to link it up differently, in therms of placement and wires, another mistake of mine. That way you get a dead angle from 30% of the wind directions. How to get optimal effect from all directions you have to put the generator where you put in the video, and have 3 wires to 80proc of the top, wire them through their own pulley and throw an anchor for each of them down the tree, all 120deg apart from eachother in direction, so that you can anchor them all 5m away from the tree, such that all wires go away from the tree at a 120 degree angle if you would look at it from the top (like a pizza in 3 slices) I can help think of a way to combine the energy of these 3 seperate wire arrays if you'd like to :)
@@ConceptCraftedCreations No problem, its a really interesting problem! I just made an edit still tho hahah, wasnt finished yet. I think you just missed the clock layout suggestion :)
Something to note is that although the parts for his build might be around 50€, if produced en masse in a factory, the costs of this kind of system could be as low if not lower than 2€. That would drop the energy harvesting requirement from 1% to a meager 0.04% to beat traditional wind. Also I'm guessing different species of trees probably have different "wind/bend/energy harvesting properties" as well, providing even more room for further optimizations. In short, ConceptCraftedCreations, welcome to your new life as the messiah of green energy 😂
This calculation is equivalent to the "high efficiency, high output" model I mention in my main comment. If we look beyond generating value from the actual energy available on a day barely worth flying a kite or going sailing, then we need to value-add the energy, to make it worth harvesting. Burning coal or oil is primative, making plastic is advanced. Likewise, seeing the tree movements as only an energy source is primative, seeing a way to value add that microsupply is advanced. Hence I propose the wifi mesh idea. The energy havested from the movements of a single tree could power a single node of a wifi mesh and would be barely visible. The value of that service is very high and could demonopolise the entire communications sector, making it profitable (or at least cost neutral) for households to contribute to. Mass produced, a single node for one tree might cost only 50% more than a home wifi router, twice as much with professional installation and, when everybody does this, the multinational telcos are replaced, farmers get value from their windbreak plantings by having access to their online markets from anywhere on their farm, forestry becomes network infrastructure, as do parks. A few nylon lines, a small mechanism and electronics box, a 25 year life expectancy (equal to solar) and suddenly we see the trees, not the wood, from a markets perspective.
Interesting analysis, but missing one main aspect: considering cumulative distributed upkeep costs Maintenance on one single giant windmill will *always* be waaaay cheaper than the upkeep required on many, many thousands of small "tree mills". 1- Sure, you can argue that you dont catually need to build the windmill itself, as you are taking advantage of already existing trees. Trees are living organisms, as so, they grow in a somehow predictable way, but not 100% sure. You'll have to constantly adapt the generators, even if you could find a way to automatically adapt the energy harvesting contraption... 2- But look at what is happening with traditionnal windmills: they go bigger and bigger every year. They even started to dismantle small ones and replace them with bigger ones... >> For a reason. Despite the exponentially higher costs induced by larger windmills, every windmill manufacturer contracting for every grid company of every country is going the same direction : bigger Common sense here, no need to do the calculation by yourself: After having done the economic profitability analysis, every one is going the same direction, opposite from this
I've been thinking about this. Instead of directly driving a generator, use the movement to winch up a heavy lead weight. Use the weight to drive your generator.
Convert the trees movements to rotational energy, then attatch something similar to a car alternator to the rotation machine. That way the only thing that would really need maintenance over time would be the gears
Since I don't see anyone bringing this up, something to keep in mind is the long-term adverse effects this may have on the tree's health. Tying strings to the branches causes the tree to grow around the strings, eventually having them cut off the internal pipework of the tree and leads to the branch's (and perhaps the entire tree's) death. If there is some way to attach them in a less harmful way, that would be preferable for the tree.
@@GTLugo you are just an enemy of the environment. How about you start being green and accept that we must implement this on a large scale. It's the only way to save the planet.
yes. just screw an eyebolt in. trees dont really care about foreign objects stuck in them, they treat it just like any other wound or broken branch... but they definitely do not appreciate being strangled...
Bruh have you never seen a tree grow into a fence post or seen pics of things encapsulated by trees? The string would just slowly get absorbed into the tree
@@SoFlyVA no, they dont. non-continuous things, they can deal with, they cannot survive complete encirclement... like a rope. or wire. they even strangle themselves with their own roots if you dont untangle the rootball when planting out... whole series of YT vids on "girdling roots" and companies specialising in remedying it... amazing what a tree will tolerate, but they dont tolerate garroting
I think this is awesome, and important! This is what you call micro-generation. The idea is that no one micro-generator idea is THE ONE that will solve all of our problems; however if we maximize all the opportunities for micro-generation that we can put a significantly huge dent in our power generation. Think of it this way: imagine if you had these on every tree in your backyard, AND you had a micro-generator on every door and cabinet door in your house, AND your bed and couch had micro-generator, so on and so on.
Actually, there is a mechanical gear that can convert ANY random movement into rotation. That means that connecting cords to the branches and letting them move in random way could be transformed into rotation of the electricity generator.
@@MaciejPusa UA-cam algorithm advised it to me once when I watched a few videos on "fascinating gears". And I am pretty sure there must be some handbook on gears for engineering students.
There's a guy who made a video with a similar device a while ago. Please watch it, you'll find it very interesting, I promise! The title is "Gravity could be source of sustainable energy"
Suggestion: I think the tree isn't moving enough, so you need to attach it to something with much more movement. I'm imagining one of those red air dancing men, and attach the strings to its arms. Even if this doesn't work it would make a hilarious video. To actually make it more practical, put it sideways so it's powered by the wind like a windsock, and attach that whole contraption to the tree. (Reposted because I think my original comment got autodeleted since I put a link in it) Just found your channel and it's really cool. You have awesome projects!
Fabulous! Similar to an idea I had with a vertical column of tiny spinners for wind, fastened at the tree trunk. My suggestion right away for yours is to find a way to extend downward and out instead of upward, with a fail safe hinge mechanism to bend inward, guarding against falling or collection of debris. This would potentially significantly reduce breakage and maintenance over time. Thank you for sharing! 🎉🎉🎉
Can't speak for this specific version, but tree energy is brilliant! 80% of the construction is pre-existing trees, and even if they are newly planted, that means carbon capture. This should be an industry, to let it evolve high capacity, low investment versions!
Since this idea does not require deforestation to build a power plant, and it could be adapted on any size tree (the model he used was pretty small so it can be sized up), here are some research questions I would try to answer : A) what sizes produce which powers over the course of one day’s exposure on a regular summer day(72F light breezy)? B) how many trees would it take to power one home? Could those trees fit in a person’s backyard? C) how does it compare to domestic wind turbines such as an archimedes domestic turbine? I think this could encourage tree planting and give people a reason to not cut them down but use them in a way that is more beneficial for just oxygen, since apparently that isn’t enough
@@deemisquadis9437 this is a super valid point - yeah, we live in a capitalist society that hinders growth and progress like this for the sake of profit value. Americans haven’t really recovered since ‘08, the cost of living is very expensive, and wages are stagnant. In fact, I looked into this type of technology (I have a bachelors degree in engineering) to make my own device to avoid having to pay my hard earned wages to a utility company. If I could make it as a DIY for myself, I can make a few more and give them to my closest friends. And if I can get maybe a few thousand people generating their own electricity for free rather than pay an electric bill, now we could have a fighting chance at breaking away from dependence on capitalism ending it as we know it. I hope u have a great day
A regular wind turbine produces 5MW (10^6 W) A simple linear generator like this will provide a fraction of one watt. So you need multiple millions of these to replace only a single wind turbine. While this is still a fun project, it will NEVER be enconomic. Not even ecological, as the hardware will brake down before heaving output a Promille of the energy required to manufacture the copper alone.
Good afternoon , I loved this project and I would like to present it as a project at my university. but I would like to know the measurements and if the 3d model is possible.
What if you simply attach a very long cable through a forest, and have it so that it attaches to alot of trees in a line, so that any trees movement applies a force to the cable. which in turn could generate power at one location.
@@ConceptCraftedCreations im not sure if it would be easy. You would have to figure out a way to translate the conflicting movement of each tree trunk into movement of the cable without other trees becoming pointless or interfeering.... if you can figure that out. A giant flywheel might be the best cource of action to store up the force and translate it into power with all that pulling force?
@@DalorathI think separate generators connected to one inverter will always be the more efficient choice(this is also how wind and solar farms work) unless you really only want to use mechanical power without making electricity for some reason.
That's a terrible idea the first storm would down random branches making a big tangle up in the trees and I fall to see how it would be simple to attach a series of trees together do you have any tree climbing experience it's not impossible but it's not even close to" simply".
One idea i has was to use solar vacuum tubes and thermo electric generators and sand to create a 24hour self charging solar generator. The tree idea is so neat! Great video.
I think that to improve the efficiency of this project it is crucial to test firstly the perfect ratio among velocity and torque, also after this, I think it would be perfect to use more ropes to get energy from as many angles of the tree as possible.
One of the things that I will indeed measure in the near future is the force with which an average branch can pull👌 And what do you think about multiple devices in 1 tree instead of adding ropes to just one?
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I think that multiple devices are the best for pure efficiency, the problem is with the look on the tree, as you remember at the start of the video you mentioned that you wanted to make it less visible as possible. But that's just for people who don't understand that trees don't cry if you put screws in them. I mean personally I always prefer efficiency over look, it depends on you!
@@Gentle_Egono form of life likes it when you damage it, so even if you can't hear it cry personally and even if they have a good mechanism to adapt and "move on" to deal with the damage, still not something that one should do. Efficiency over Looks, but never over Morality. All the best, and a wholesome day 🌈
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsimo a single device will most likely be more economically-efficient (cost per watt), Definitely less maintenance (plus associated costs), and at the very least more resource-efficient. So I hope you optimize for that. Also taking this concept further, I assume that the generator (materials and assembly) is the most expensive part. So ideally you'd have a high quality high duty generator connected to multiple of trees. I image you can get cheap yet robust and reliable ropes and pullies, and feed them through shallow-dug pipes from all the trees you can to the generator. Might be the most cost effective for Scale All the best! 🌈
@@sosiskago5802 Yes, it's a lot cheaper and will give you a couple of watts at best (if we are being very generous in the estimation). Not even beginning to account for constant maintenance need, logistics nightmare of said maintenance and enough copper cables to run them to the moon to connect even a single forest. And ignoring that utilizing Watt-level sources for large scale power generation doesn't make sense. You think you can just put them up and they'll do their thing for the next 10 years?
I am so happy to see this. I have a similar idea to use a linear generator to capture the energy of waves from a body of water. I was stuck on how to construct the linear generator. Thank you!
as someone who also comes up with overcomplicated solutions to interesting problems, i appreciate the effort. but uh... strangling trees with complicated little machines involving many moving parts that can easily get jammed up with dirt, bugs, and other junk, just to generate a little bit of electricity seems like a bad idea. what problem does this idea solve that wind turbines don't already solve way more efficiently and simply, with way less wear and tear, way less maintenance, way less waste, and way less material per unit of generated electricity?
It's like this is an early prototype and he's looking for feedback to refine it or something. Wouldn't hurt to be the slightest bit constructive with your feedback, especially since your main complaint is defeated by putting it in a housing and swapping straps for screws/pins. Efficiency/Cost threshold for windmills isn't that hard to defeat, the issue is that windmills don't have to be specialized nearly as much. If you have the spare time and the correct setting this has a real possibility of supplementing your power needs (assuming the finished product has ironed out some kinks).
@@Heowolf I could see this concept as useful for powering short-term non-critical lighting or signals, similar to how some road signs and barricades have solar-powered flashing lights on them. But as a viable way to power whole households or communities? Not a chance. You'd be looking at wiring up whole forests. Material costs would be astronomical, and it would require constant maintenence as parts decay in the elements, the wired trees grow and die, and animals interfere with the system. The installations will have an effect of some sort on the health of the plants and animals that live there. Inevitably, the forests such setups are installed in will become polluted with bits of plastic, copper, and electronics. Constructive feedback: consult with experts in the fields your technology will necessarily impact (e.g. arborists, forest people, wildlife people, firefighters, environmental protection authorities, etc) to help determine whether this technology could feasibly scale responsibly.
@@SidShakal You realize that a lot of breakthroughs in fields happen by people from outside of that field, right? A lot of "experts" in the field of renewable energy are in the field to make money, so things that have the potential to provide free, or low cost, energy are not going to get a lot of study by those experts. I have my doubts whether this in particular is feasible. I feel like it it was generating enough electricity to be remotely viable, that would have been included in the video. But, the current climate of shooting down ideas without even attempting to test them is absolutely stifling to innovation.
What a fantastic idea! I would add a winding mechanism so the energy could be generated at a constant rate: the movement charges the winding mechanism and when it reaches a point, it will move the piston constantly, not in the erratic manner you presented. You could even time it so it has the correct frequency of the grid. On second thought, scrap that: the winding mechanism could itself be a circular generator instead of linear.
Here's an idea if you have two tall trees next to each other. Tie a rope high in tree A, then string it across to tree B. As the trees pull away from each other, use your pulley method to convert the linear motion to rotational on tree B, and hang a mass from the free end of the rope to keep the rope taught between the trees. As the trees pull away from each other, tension force in the rope should generate torque on the pulley which can be converted to high speed rotation with a gear. Use this output gear to drive a small AC or DC generator rather than using your linear generator. I had a lot of fun watching this video, thanks!
Thanks! I really appreciate the compliment! And that could definitely work! Only isn't it true that the trees move in the same direction because the wind hits them from the same angle?🧐 I'm wondering now how often they would pull away from each other and how often they would move simultaneously in the same direction.. none the less some interesting food for thought!🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreations That's what I thought too, however trees act like giant springs moving back and forth. Because each tree has different geometry, the trees end up moving in different directions. I always find it mesmerizing standing under a group of tall trees and see how they move independently of each other. Take this video for example: ua-cam.com/video/TlnGqd4uXC4/v-deo.html&pp=ygUaZHJvbmUgZm9vdGFnZSBmb3Jlc3Qgd2luZHk%3D
@@ConceptCraftedCreations An even better idea would be to install a generator on board of cyclette, tapis roulant and other equipment found in gyms all over the world. Free energy and body toning for everyone...
I wonder how to design a system that will harness both stimulus and opposite motions (and things in between) Like an A, M, B system, where A and B are the trees, and the M(middle) component is a stable non swaying element that will convert these motions with different modes, that all add up and then sent to the generator
This is incredibly cool!! I think it would be perfect to install onto existing trees in small places that could keep an eye on them for any maintenance, and benefit from the small amounts of power, like people's backyards. I saw someone mention emergency power in a storm, and I think that would be perfect!! It's super windy during bad storms, great conditions for wind energy. The biggest problem (among many to figure out) is how to attach it to high branches where most of the wind and movement happens safely...? And without hiring someone to climb the tree, which can get expensive and dangerous. It would be great to somehow set this up yourself at home
@@ConceptCraftedCreations while that was my first thought as well, yours is clearly lower scale, more environtmentally friendly ar first glance (although I'm pretty sure those cables would have several problems with wildlife on a real environment), but, specially, you'll likely have a feasible solution way sooner than Vortex
Very nicely done. Can't wait to see how much power can be generated. By the way, as an engineer and someone who also maintains forestland, trees can easily recover from screws. The straps you used look quite safe as well, but I have seen tight cables wrapped around trees cut off the nutrient supply and kill them. Just something to keep in mind.
you could easily run a rotary generator on this setup instead of needing a linear generator, the issue is getting the random movements of the tree into something that spins in one direction for better efficiency. I'm sure you could do that with some fancy gearing or clutches but I'm not certain how much extra resistance that would add. It would be interesting though to see if you could get a tree to consistently run a flywheel.
Suggestion: have it charge a battery that so the output can be more smooth. You will also need to convert that ac to dc. But you probably knew that. Such an out side the box thinking. I love it.❤
When you said "electricity from trees" I was totally imagining some sort of chemical generator taping into the sugars/starches, like those science projects running a lightbulb with a potato or lemon. I was not expecting this. Cool!
I clicked on this expecting you to have harnessed the small electrical potentials that trees and plants naturally generate and transformed them into a significant, usable source of electricity through genetic engineering, delivering breakthroughs in bioengineering and energy conversion. These genetically engineered trees should automatically grow into houses, adapting their structure to create living spaces while connecting to neighboring trees through a mycelium network to form an organic internet. Any spare electricity generated could be utilized in a distributed computing network, similar to "Folding@home," to continuously improve the tree's own genome, making it more efficient and adaptive over time.
@@harmoney-tk5wd No it couldn't, because you don't understand how electrical potentials are correlated to energy and what implications it has to actually extract that energy in a usable form. Even a single lemon battery (where the electrical energy doesn't even come from the lemon itself) with around 1V is not enough to power a measly LED. For the potential differences within organisms we are talking about millivolts.
@@christiannorf1680 All plants already generate some electicity. Not a great amount, but they do. Aren't algae solar panels a thing? All that is left is to genetically engineer that cannabis tree and we're there.
Interestingly enough pulley systems and gears have the same effect on machines like this. Gear ratio is a very similar concept to pulley ratios, both allow you to get more force in a short distance by using less force in a long distance!
Nifty idea! Some thoughts: 1. Every region has 'prevailing winds'--which accounts for most of the wind direction--that can be looked up for your locality. If you only worry about branches perpendicular to the prevailing winds, you will automatically increase the system's efficiency without any extra effort. 2. To multiply the force, just attach the system to multiple branches in a flat chain. (You might want to add springs on each side of each branch or use elastic cord to avoid excessive strain on the system.) 3. For more even power output, I suggest using this system to charge a 'gravity battery' instead of generating electricity directly. (i.e. A heavy weight is hanging from a cord that is wrapped around a drum. As gravity pulls the weight down, the rotating drum uses a gear multiplier to rapidly spin a generator. These are used for LED lamps/phone chargers/etc. in many developing nations as they are so simple & easy to build and use.) A rachetting mechanism could use the force from the branches moving in the wind to pull the weight back up, 'recharging' the gravity battery. 4. Multiple cords, each on its own drum, can be used with a single generator both for more power and to smoothen out the pulses. A simple 'reversing gear mechanism' would swing each drum to the left/right so that the generator shaft is always rotating in the same direction, no matter which direction each drum is rotating. Cheers!
actually maybe a little useful.. you see.. if we go to live in a jungle, for small things like charging a mobile or having a light... we need to use solarpanel(but sun is blocked by trees), or we need to use wind(but again, we can't place a big turbine without chopping down trees... and expesive )... or generator(noisy and expensive and who is gonna get fuel daily.. ) so this could be perfect solution, with a charging setup and multiple trees... but there is also things like gravity light...
It depends on how much energy you can produce with this, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's potential for around 1kw of power like in a similarly sized wind turbine. And there's absolutely a case for small dams or wind turbines that can be used for a microgrid in a rural area. This is probably less powerful but very easy to build and can be scaled up in a small orchard or grove. As it is now it could still be useful to power lights or a phone charger.
I've seen a number of brilliant ideas mentioned already and at the risk of repeating some (since I haven't read all 2473 comments) I've got a couple of ideas that could very well be silly but that I'd like to throw out there anyhow. I love the idea of a flywheel it is something that I had considered while trying to design a vertical axis wind turbine(VAWT) once. One thing that I thought might be a good idea is to make the armature that moves up and down (to and fro or oscillating motion) to one that can convert to circular lotion like in a piston; this way there's a better chance to keep a constant flow of kinetic energy as opposed to it stopping everytime the direction has to change. I'm also thinking on the lines of a capacitor like storage option (springs?) that can store energy that may be too less to generate current due to gear ratios or whatever thereby storing up small bits of energy into something like a gravity battery so that the gravity battery can then power the armature of a standard circular generator. Lastly, since I understand that adding more components leads to increased loads on the initial mechanical energy harvesting device thereby possibly leading to higher inertia that prevents the flywheel or mechanism to start, a VAWT could be used to harness smaller movements/weaker wind; this in addition to the capacitor/spring - gravity battery concept might offset the inertial problem at the risk of making things more complicated. I figure that if a freewheel is involved, any small energy boost can help increase the momentum of the freewheel, which will directly convert to energy produced in the longer(ish) run.
you might harness the movement energy of the whole trunk by putting generator somewhere near instead of mounting it on target tree. would the generator itself move with the trunk that way?
@@RaddDronzy So would a massive setup like this with trees to generate electricity.... and you'd also be destroying lots of habitat for animals, creating big hazards... you don't think very far.
I think the tree itself is already converting kinetic energy into electrical energy in this way and that what you are doing is essentially leeching off of a naturally occurring system which powers the grid of mother nature. Such a system applied at a large scale could have a destructive effect on the environment, rather than a constructive one. What we should focus on is harnessing the excess energy which is discharged by lightning during thunderstorms so that we do not disrupt or corrupt the natural flow of electricity. Lightning is a destructive force and often causes the destruction of trees. The great Nikola Tesla was the last of human kind to attempt such a feat.
Yeah and instead of farming plants and animals for food we should harvest the pollen in the air and plankton from the sea. Its a dumb idea dude, if you dont know what youre talking about at least have some humility.
I have always wanted to make a sugar based energy cell that creates electricity from tree sap somehow. I don't know that such a thing exists, but it would be so cool if you could power your house from a forest of trees without cutting them down. It would look something like a maple syrup farm but basically you're powering your house off of solar energy.
Would this make it a power plant?
Hah, I see what you did there!
Haha 😂 nice one!
Genius!
Nice😂
Cute😂
Instead of having a cylindrical generator like that, maybe it would be better to just use a more normal round one. With the current you need to accelerate and deaccelerate the inertia constantly. With a round you could make a kind of a geared ratchet system, or one way bearings, which then spins up the generator, and like a bike like a bike then cruise when not pedaling. With that you could also add a flywheel to store more energy while the branch is changing direction.
As you describe it, it is indeed a great option!👌
Ooh, I kind of like this idea. Converting the oscillating branch motion into rotation of a sort of flywheel. The trick would be making a way so every motion is used to "pump" energy into the system. With the ratcheting wheel arrangement, it seems like you'd only be putting energy into it half the time, whereas the linear generator works with input from any motion. 🤔 I feel like I did see somewhere where someone made a bike that moves forward whether you pedal forward or backwards, though... I wonder what that mechanism is called.
@@BRUXXUS you can add more than one ratchet and or one way bearing to utilize both movements
@@mikeydkIn theory it should work. In practice, in my opinion, due to the way bicycles are conceived, the backwards pedalling cannot deliver any usable power, not as great, anyway, as the forward one.
@@gaetanoroccuzzo I don't think you understand what I mean. The bicycle reference was only for the way it can cruise while no power is applied to the input of the wheel hub. With the system I am talking about you got multiple bearings, which lock up when rotating one direction and act as a bearing in the opposite. You then orient them on the shaft in a way so you can pull from any direction, and the pulling motion will be applied to the shaft. Once the pulling stroke has reached its max it can freely return to the start position and be ready to be pulled again, kind of like rowing a boat. Engage, pull, disengage. It don't even have to be done in sync either.
Man, during an apocalypse, I want you in my survival group!
good choice because i would just eat you at some point
Can I join I am 11 and I know electricity and I going to be an engineer!😊
@@mohammedothman5667a lot of people know electricity and want to become a engineer, how are you different from the others? Also what does joining a non existent, theoretical group for?
@@CIWS-Goalkeeper why do they need to be so different? The world can have more than 1 engineer. Lol. Touch grass man.
The apocalypse is now.
i read a book on mythical creatures when i was like 10 and this is how gnomes would power mills and simple machines they would attach a rope and pully on tall grass or plants. the swaying on the grass would pull the rope and spin a mill
Haha😄 So I'm actually way behind on this idea🤓
What book?
Kabouter (or so) by Rien Poortvliet
Sounds awesome
This is why imaging fantasy technology with various kinds of limitations is great, what may seem inefficient and pointless at first glance might just be better in a more holistic system/solution
This is one of the most interesting ways I've seen someone make energy, would love to see this project expanded on
Thanks!🤓 And i hope you subscribed then because part 2 will be coming!
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsI think a life cycle analysis would be a good way to justify implementing the device. That analysis would highlight its benefits over a traditional turbine, (less intrusive, shade, natural habitat, less mining resources required, etc.) some data on exactly how much power is produced over time would help prove out the concept
@phillipd7049 or we could just install a turbine on a tree
@@phillipd7049 It generates so little energy compared to even a tiny windmill that its just a fun gimmicl and nothing else.
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsThe moment I saw the title I knew what it was. Genius idea!
I did a similar thing once, using the swaying of a tree to pull a long cylindrical pump to pump water uphill. I was absolutely thrilled that it actually worked even though it pumped a uselessly tiny amount of water.
As a systems engineer I like the natural side of this. This is like a wind turbine but still offers habitats, shade, green space, and air purification. I’d love to see what the optimized version’s power output would be and compare the cost per Watt to conventional energy generation as well as a life cycle analysis (LCA), which could account for some of the benefits the tree system offers(less intrusive, takes up less space, etc) I think this sort of nature-first design would fare very well from that perspective.
Isn't nature funny like that ? 😂
I think that is where a lot of the people comparing the output of this generator to the output of a wind turbine are tripping up. This system is not just putting out power, it is adding power generation to a system that already does: air filtration, oxygen generation, temperature control (via shade), animal habitation, and material generation. It is many times more useful than a wind turbine which only produces power, even if the power it produces is not comparable.
@elijahclifford863 Or...or...now hear me out...we could just have wind turbines AND trees.
It's hard to explain but basically imagine tree as this huge lever. You need to choose your lever wisely.
Imagine a forest, where each tree is set upon cube of dirt.
The cubes are connected with spring loaded walls or with fluid. Each cube can be moved by swaying tree with highest lever while not uprooting the tree right? You receive energy underneath roots.
@@elijahclifford863 A) How much energy does it take to build this apparatus?
B) How much Energy can it yield over it's lifetime?
C) If A Exceeds B, why are you doing this?
If you put a strap around the tree, make sure it have enough stretch. If it rigid, it really kills the tree because it cuts the fluid flow under bark, where most of it happen.
Unlike many people think, it's not bad for a tree to screw something on it. It makes only minimum hole on a bark and wood itself is pretty much dead mass. Rope or a strap, which has been forgotten on place for few years, makes massive damage or possibly kill the whole tree.
I came here to say that Screws in a tree aren't damaging the tree but I had no idea that straps would hurt it. Thanks for the info.
The strap could be with a bungie cord rather then ridged straps...
also I am glad someone pointed this flaw out before everyone starts placing these on trees
@@2019inuyasha It is better. It depends on the tree how sensitive they are. Heavy bark can take much more force than thinner one, like birch.
@@lorenztor1990 makes sense, its basically a tourniquet
As an electrical engineer who studied a lot of physics this has potential. The best use case scenario is going to be in locations that are more tree dense like a forest. This will never be as energy efficient as a wind turbine. Let me explain. Wind is your source of energy and if applied directly to a wind turbine the energy losses are in the friction of the bearings, heat and resistance due to magnetic forces of your generator. This device will occur the same losses but now introduce the energy losses produced by the branches of the tree. My suggestion use gears to change the force horizontal and make a more traditional small generator. Design a gear differential found similar to a car but reverse it where either side that moves powers the single shaft of a generator. Keep up the good work and would love to see how this develops.
Except that in the case of the wind turbine you have to build the fan and it's pedestal. It could actually be more efficient despite the losses, because of the decreased build cost.
wind turbines need a turbine to begin with !!!
@@unAgorist yeah, it's not like they grow on trees!
As an arborist I would have to say that coniferous trees (spruce trees especially with very stiff needles) transfer most of the energy directly into the bending of the main trunk, and thus, contain more ‘harvestable’ energy than a deciduous tree that looses more energy to the vibration of their leaves. Tapping into the energy at the tip of a spruce tree has a lot of power generation potential. Just ask any arborist who regularly climbs to the top of conifers on a regular basis, a 200lb payload gets tossed around like nothing on a windy day.
And you wouldn’t be needing as much space in fact you could implement this in an orchard
Cats produce more electricity than trees. It's about time they started paying rent 😿💳🤲
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lol
Make them pull some small carriages that charge aa batteries
hamsters in the wheel are even bigger 😁 lets make a hamsters power plant.... 🤪
The energy of a cat comes from cat food which you have to buy though.
Hey, I had a similar project once. Our conclusion was that there is too little energy to ever become cost-efficient. But we had different approach and also left out some possible favourable factors and fields of use, so hopefully you'll get closer to success. Some ideas: 1) Harvesting movement of trees relative to each other and connecting it to same mechanism (connecting trees to each other with same ropes). 2) A "crane battery" instead of linear generator to save on conversion losses - mechanically winching a weight up and letting it go back down through a normal spinning generator. 3) Same but with a flywheel instead: tree movement spins flywheel up to x rpm, generator switches on, speed decreases until y rpm, generator switches off, repeat. 4) Invent variable gearing system to get most of both quiet and windy days. If tree pulls string strong, high gear ratio is selected to get max energy from same movement. If tree is pulling weak, low gearing is selected to still be able to use it, not stall from too much system resistance.
Seems like nothing will make it even close to the generating capacity of even a tiny windmill.
@@afterthefact6708 Therfor the question might be when to use such a desperate idea, and I came up with the idea of a situation where resources are limited and the need for energy is minimal.
2) A "crane battery" instead of linear generator to save on conversion losses - mechanically winching a weight up and letting it go back down through a normal spinning generator.
people in rural Africa use this to light their homes. they have a rock on a string, they pick the rock up to the ceiling, and let go and it slowly drops over the course of a few hours and powers the lights and stuff, and then they pick it up again when it gets to the ground. free electricity for just picking up a rock 3-4x a day. pretty good imo
The movement of the tree is caused by the wind, seems logical to cut out the middle man (or plant)
also the devices used to attach to tree could be almost free, or made with remodified waste items. just powering a single modem, or I-phone would be fine, perhaps if you could make enough power for a laptop it would make it about break even in terms of time and money put into the project...
Here's an idea. A strain gauge utilizes deformation to vary resistance. Similarly, you could wrap a tube with liquid up/around a tree, and the deformation of the wood would cause the fluid pressure to vary inside the tube. This pressure could then be converted to linear movement using a piston. Use four valves to create a liquid rectifier if needed.
Tie a weight lifting ratchet between two trees. As the trees move, a weight is lifted and released when at the top, spinning a more conventional generator located on the ground between those trees
A bird might mess with it
While it may have a better power output, it negates the goal of having the centripetal design that is near invisible. tripping hazard and is less fortified by the tree, which would prevent the generator from being damaged. Good Idea though. Maybe if we had them on post between the trees, raised, it would be safer, less of a hazard, and relatively out of view
trees move in tandem
@@funky555 really? Watch two trees closely, especially if of differing sizes or species
Might as well just use a normal wind turbine at that point. Completely defeats the purpose.
The bottom cap needs drain holes for rain if this thing actually stays outside, otherwise the magnet bar will get hydro-locked and something will probably break. Probably want some sort of boot or bushing at the top to minimize the amount of rain going in there too. A dust boot at both ends of a through-rod would help keep it centered, kind of like how speakers keep their coil centered.
How do you protect from them pesky squirrels though? 😂
Put peanut butter on the branches to get added squirrel energy
out with the old, in with the new.
metal line/string
I mentioned this idea 10 or so years back to a renewables expert who pretty much shot it down in flames.
I think your concept is fantastic. Its just sad that some people can't think outside the box. Very best wishes for future success. New subscriber here.
Thanks! And i appreciate your support🙌
the people that you mention are only loud and aren't, probably never will be, ready for real science - which requires creativity
I wouldn't really be super interested in this concept for real power generation because it has had power density but it's no worse than a giant wind turbine really
there is a concept similar to this which is kite based and already works pretty great
this project is really intriging and it's a good practice for creativity and design, however its just wind power with extra steps not feasible for practical power generation. However think of this as ultra efficent power harnessing for some niche situtations say power for forest fire detectors in a remote dense forest . Just not for large scale power generation.
@@robertsolomon3328 Or maybe they're smarter and more creative, which allows them to see the dozen or so issues with power generation at scale with such a "solution".
Just to name a few
- Trees grow, travel will change over time until cables either snap or remain in tension.
- Access. Trees tend to be in forests, so it becomes complicated to outfit a million or so trees in uneven or sometimes inaccessible terrains.
- Unreliable. You need hundreds of these (or more) with possibly thousands of individual parts to work correctly for decades at a time without breaking, just to compare the output to a single small wind turbine or solar panel.
- Movement is not hard to find in nature, the issue is not making electricity, it's converting intermittent signals into a constant reliable one, which translates to storage becoming the key element, not the generation itself.
- Nuclear exists, and is simply cheaper and more efficient in every possible measure.
It's a cool mechanism, but that about the extent of its usefulness.
“That just sounds like wind power with extra steps!” Haha very cool man. Creative.
I think you meant "Wind power with few strings attached."
Without the step of removing the tree to put up a wind turbine.
Wind power without chopping the trees.
Wind power without building a 100 000$ tower
waste oftime not efficient and low power output..
4:18 ok, hear me out, I have an idea on how to make a lot of energy...
is your bone made out of solid metal?
This was one of the easiest subscribes I have ever done.
I love the open idea, and openness to ideas. It's beautiful.
Thanks!🙌 I'll take that as a huge compliment if you don't mind🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsYou need power a gyro.
The real power in the tree would be from potential torque rather than plain old movement. A geared generator that requires high force to function should yield more output.
Car windshield wiper mechanism comes to mind.
I do not disagree with that! I think it comes all down to finding a good balance between nature and technology to get the most out of the tech without destroying nature of course
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I think we have to be careful with visually polluting the countryside when it comes to windmills and solar panels. There are far better technologies with respect to small foot print, high energy output such as en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor however economics and of course politics tends to overrule what makes sense.
There is no harm in the individual performing green projects for their home and property however we really don't want large corporations buying up chunks of the countryside to slab over with metal panels or large unsightly towers.
We have had the means of producing cheap power for many years however the current system uses energy as another form of taxation on the common man.
@@HASCAN_PRIME
Here in the UK where I am right now the evening has just passed and the weather or atmosphere is like soup with no sun and a very fine drizzle rain falling within a breezeless 16C temp.
Sitting here contemplating where there may be a potential difference to exploit with respect to the subject at hand, there is very little I can come up with other than pointing at heat source pumping which of course we know loses efficiency as demand increases plus there is no commercial equipment available as of yet that converts any heat gain in to useable or storable electricity.
Thinking outside the box, here is an idea.
Leveraging nature, evolution and gene therapy we could bread hamsters where only the best runners are selected. If we then manufacture hamster wheels using fidget spinner bearings and couple them direct to micro generators, I’m sure there would be some worth while usable output over a given hamster lifespan. Although the output would probably be quite small, if we were to massively scale, such a solution could easily obtain Megawatt figures (think of shipping containers with the label Rodent Rodio on the side).
In order to fuel the hamsters I am thinking a really good chemist could come up with some sort of enzyme that would break down plastics in to some form of digestible compound. We could also feed them other scraps from our tables in order to fulfil the proverb ‘where there is muck, there is brass’.
Good morning from the UK, hope I made you smile. 🙂
I agree and think you could store up the energy into a gravity battery by lifting some mass with a ratcheting mechanism to hold it up until ready and then allow it to slowly fall down while discharging (i.e. while charging your phone)
@@K3POit's interesting but wouldn't beat a flywheel with a high torque conversion.. unless you could predict your own usage and high/low wind times w AI.
bro you should call this power, tree-hugging power. look at it hug the tree. please make the brace into cartoon arms.
you can maybe keep working on this and sell it to green-campers as the tree hugger generator, if you could make it easy to produce u could make linking multiple trees in series (like solar panels are linked in series) to multiply power. tree hugging concerto.
loved the video. best video ive seen this year... wholesome, simple and genius
Extremely innovative 💡 I am going to order the tree project from your website today. I love how you think outside the box. Extremely unique, i love the linear motor. Awesome build. 👍
Thanks man!👌 Really appreciate it🙌
thanks for your comment, i see so many negative ones and this was like a breath of fresh air
Hello, where can I find the project? I would like to buy it too... it's a great idea
@@marcofg81The model is still under development. But I don't mind making the same one either.
Please give me link where I can buy this tree-generator
Tell me you're Dutch, without telling me you're Dutch:
Done👌😄
Conquering and fighting move nature
Disgusting
@@bambihasantlers4744 you I was joking. Also Netherlands probably doing more helping nature than 90% countries in the world by working with nature. It’s joke about how more than third Netherlands land was man made. Also they’re really good making sail ship back then so harvest the wind and “conquer” etc.
@@19Daantje98 "saving the nature" 🤢 eww.
That ending where you were saying your viewers ideas often would make the project much better, and spreading the vid into 2 parts because of it is such a mega chad move and earned my sub
Use a battery to store the power. Charges when not in use, instant power when needed. You could use a simple phone power bank. But you'll need to rectify the power flow with this set up.
If nothing else, this would be a neat feature for campers. It would give them a chance to charge their electronics while still preserving that "off the grid" aspect of camping.
Yeah, we could probably get 15% charge in 3 months!
coz batteries come without energy costs of manufacture.... better use those batteries somewhere where they are more efficient?
This is an awesome idea. The real question is: how much energy do you make and at what cost. As much as it might look like a possible solution to the energy problem, sometimes the energy required to make the components is bigger than the system yields in its lifetime.
Not to mention ease of install and removal.
What I can see as a potential option would be a very cheap, simple and easy to install/remove system that uses the whole trunk's motion to generate substantial amounts of electricity. Then you install this is in a lot of eucalyptus farms. When the harvesting time comes, you remove the system from each tree and take it somewhere else to install it.
Max energy gains are limited by how much energy is transferred by the wind to the tree, and then from the tree to the generator. Not efficient at all
Thanks!
This has some serious potential especially for off-the-grid living if applied to lots of trees and a battery for storage. If you live in a plentiful wind area, this would surely be better than a windmill and more reliable than solar.
Keep improving. I cannot wait to see progress.
I'm glad someone finally built one of these, I came up with this idea and sketches roughly 20 years ago, and people thought I was crazy, stating that the lines would keep fouling due to falling debris often, and back then I was too lazy to purchase the magnets and wind the coils. And also, mine would have been made out of wood to blend in, where 3d printing makes it a buttload easier to put ideas into practice. Good on you for clearly taking an idea to the prototype stage. ( I actually have many different designs for harnessing energy through notes and sketches, this might in fact give me the kick up the backside to get out and build them. )
Doubtful people like you always have ideas, 99 percent dream the 1 percent do.
I mean, it's still possible that all these issues would crop up if he let this thing operate for a long time…
This is just a fun experiment, its useless on a practical level. Even a tiny windmill would generate dramatically more energy.
damn, man you must be an absolute genius. i am in awe
You were crazy.
There are wind generators that use kites - the kites catch the wind and rise, pulling a cable, then the kite's surfaces are adjusted and it drops back down, where it catches the wind and flies up again. I don't think this helps at all but it's a cool concept.
Hey whatever gear solution they use could genuinely be useful here
I literally had the same idea some years ago. I was not able to work it out. I love, that somebody had the capabillity to build this POC. Wish you the best! this would be nice to see a wood around a city, creating the needed elctricity instead of giant wind turbines! The older the trees get, the more energy they could convert. :)
That's the most creative way to generate electricity I've ever seen. Thank you for your innovation. You are a real genius!!!
guys a doof wasting time. All he had to do is make some wings put it on the roof and bam same outcome and hundred more times powerful on producing electricity then tie on a tree. Heck he would of gotten more power if he made wings and put them on the tree. Long story short there was no use for a tree in the first place
@@deesmith8576 Yeah and what would that cost?? You are suggesting literally a windmill... The whole point of this is that you barely need any material and use these large structures nature already provided. Its incredibly cheap, which is the reason of the genius. The cost really could outweigh the loss in efficiency, which is the whole point. Go spread your jealousy of whatever you didn't get as a kid somewhere else.
@@HeinGodeke Barely any material? Like half a kilogram of copper wire and rare earth magnets? The efficiency of this thing is abysmally bad, lifting all this weight. Lighting up LEDs is a poor demonstration as well as they require almost no current to run. Overall it's a nice little idea for a school project, but at the end of the day only a really poor wind generator with no usable output.
Ever wondered why wind generators in 2024 still look like giant propellers? Hint: It's not because of 'Big Windmills' suppressing any innovation because of reasons.
the idea is good ... all the work and effort is huge ... the call for a joint venture in creating new things is to be respected ... all praises
Thanks🙌
Goed bezig jonguh!... heb meteen maar effe op abonneren gedrukt,want het is schandalig hoe weinig subs je hebt terwijl het al 153k views heeft gehad....@@ConceptCraftedCreations
I had this same idea about a year ago only I couldn’t think of any way to make it simple and more practical. My sketch literally had a tree with like 30 strings tied down to the actual generator🤣🤣🤣 god bless you for this solution.
I've thought about this for a few years, here in the Swedish forest. I think pines are the easiest trees to use as they are common and move in an what looks like a synchronous way at first, but actually it's generally not.
The top of each pine tree is easy to fix into and not used in timber production, so metal darts in it wouldn't really be an issue: The method to fit an electrical generating apparatus would have to be crossbow for efficiency and I suspect the best generator would be something that looks like a snail shell - with one line to hold it to one tree, a second line into the next tree and it would almost 'hang in the middle' or near one tree, with a rotating coil in the shell, and/or even a flywheel. The question really is how to network the trees, using several, or even up to thousands, to produce real, usable power.
I suspect this idea has its greatest possibilities for smallholdings and isolated cabins and won't have a serious application beyond complementing solar power setups, but it's worth testing in practice, especially for the dark wintertimes here in the north when light is less available.
I had seen a system that uses a flywheel and it's a centrifugal clutch.
The sway of the trees in the breeze kept the flywheel moving which you bleed off for generating power.
What you're doing really isn't a stretch from what safran is doing on water.
They however are using that linear motion to Pump Air which then powers a turbine.
Brilliant idea ! Really like it . I have a lot of other projects in my mind at the moment, so I just share my first thoughts.
1) I would focus on the trunk movement as it's most heavy (=more energy)
2) I would consider the highest movement of 1 which is horizontally
3) before I engineer some generator, I would test the pull force / movement ratio. Most likely already with a DIY build with a wind speed measure and pull force measure to get an average for wind force - movement - energy coefficient.
4) I would look for the cheapest,but strong enough (safety factor 50% regarding pull force ) rope to put it on the list of product cost.
5) I would head for rotating generators.
6) I would build a MPPT (with testing) for best results of movement - energy output.
7) (just came to my mind) to reduce stress of MPPT I would search for a way to convert a fluctuating energy into a more consistent one (=better MPPT , supposedly more energy (depends on friction etc from such system).
8) finally a prototype. Definitely considering a defined breaking point within the system, such as cable ties and the end of the rope. You don't want to fight against wind force ;)
9) look at the collected data to find weak points.
10) make the first calculation if it's worth it. I would say 30years amortisation is definitely worth looking into it further, as the prototype improves AND (more importantly) build cost get lower with mass production.
Just my fist thoughts, happy for discussion or PM
Maybe even 80 years amortization is still great for prototype!!!!
That's so awesome! Imagine a whole forest with cheap and discreet energy harvesters, generating electricity for a whole town 🌲⚡🌲⚡🌲
cost more to produce the ele you dope. Magnets dun get magnetized just out of nowhere
@@deesmith8576 ele is free, if you have charisma 😙
Rare earth magnets get their name from rarely being in the earth because they grow on trees, right?
@@deesmith8576 Yes. You are right. It would take forever for the net energy to become positive, but I don't think that should stop this project. Remote areas and post-apocalypse/disaster areas could benefit from this.
Not really, I can’t say much for the rest of the planet, but in Canada the same areas that would benefit from this have the rare magnets as well so it would develop much faster and cheaper.
The us i think would be the main non beneficiary of this
China also would and is the manufacturer of the world so they definitely need to look into this.
i like that this is freely shared so that people can reiterate it.
Free energy as in free speech haha
Holy crap I'm so glad you did this! I've been trying get my friend to let me try this on his block, Eucalyptus is absolutely perfect for this, the tops of his trees move so much with massive torque
My plan was to have higher torque and run the cables along the trunk, if it can bend a metre thick trunk there's some mad energy there
Three things. 1: capacitors, this set up needs it to help charge things like batteries smoothly. Similar to a water accumulator on a boat or RV. Also a tank circuit could work to for the pause.
2: along with the accumulator you need to feed the generator into a whetstone bridge rectifier using diodes instead of resistors to convert a to DC in order to charge.
3: lastly and most importantly which I don't know what the electrical threshold is if you have noticed trees avoid electricity like from power lines. So I would suggest electromagnetic shielding for the tree as it could affect .
Bonus (try using this on a bamboo forest instead. They sway a lot more. Could use outriggers like on a mask towards the top or channels along the shaft like a fishing rod to guide and help convert the sway of a line(the bamboo angular momentum) into linear momentum of the string. Your basically converting a line into a triangle then converting rotation into line movement
Where I live trees love the power lines. They reach for the lines! We call the electric company out every spring to cut them back but, our old tree in the front catches fire every few years anyway.
this is more so for further down the line of development, currently he is trying to make it more efficient and consistent before adding diodes and capacitors.
@@conradchester Exactly
Fantastic idea. An almost unlimited number can be rigged to a single tree.
I made a generator with a dc motor 18volt, from a power tool bought for the purpose, used the core of a shaded pole motor but switched out the rotor for the magnetic rotor from a washing machine drain pump(which gives high voltage when turned as a generator, it easily runs 10 lights before noise is an issue. ) but the shaded pole core lacks a gap so there is no cogging of the magnet, nice and quiet, but the voltage out goes to a 150cc regulator rectifier which charges a new battery and if needed speed it ip and you have a couple of lights too, or a phone charger directly to the shaded poles output could be high enough to power the charger’s circuit.
Now what do you call that stuff again that you've been smoking ?
I got so excited seeing this, imagine you have a large tree in your yard and you strap a handful of these around the base, wire them into a battery system and you’ve got a wicked alternate power source for storm outages, and the same wind that toppled the power poles in the first place will power your house
"Darn trees not paying rent for the land they take, they better start working!"
they produce oxygen, clean environment.
@orange11squares companies: those skallywags! They give oxygen for free! are they stupid?
Also algae makes more oxygen and take much,much, MUCH less space and can eat any environmental hazard with enough time(they can eat plastic now)
It does kind feel like that. The tree looks tied up, harnessed to operate our machines.
It's a tree bro no need to anthropomorphize it lol@@ernestlam5632
CALCULATIONS AND OPTIMALISATION (English) UNDER HERE:
Note to Erik:
ERIK!!! jij bent echt geniaal, holy shit. Ik heb de video nog niet gekeken, maar ik ga er vanuit dat je de boom een soort windmolen maakt. Zelfs al is het 10000x minder efficient, het is minimaal 100.000x goedkoper en kost ook 5-7 orde van groten minder materiaal, wat intens veel beter is voor het milieu...
Waarom iets helemaal maken als de natuur al 99% van het werk heeft gedaan....
Gast... ik snap dat je een youtuber bent, en je moet doen wat je wil, maar dit zou de wereld potentieel echt kunnen helpen als er een bedrijf omheen wordt gebouwd.
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CALCULATIONS:
HI, so i calculated whether this project could be feasible, since it could come close to the costeffectiveness of windmills. I found out that windmills cost 1 euro per Watt they generate. If you look at the average wind force (not speed, its a different calculation), and look only at the 80% most effective trees by height (close to 1250W), and assume a cost of 50 euro's per system including setting them up. You would need to harness 4% of the total force that is put on the tree.
Since we can only capture the force of the oscillations of the wind that are on or close to the eigenfrequency of the tree, (a cheap system could only harvest the energy of the trunk, not the individual braches like yours, that wouldn't be viable) i guess we could get a 1% maximum efficiency...
So this would in fact be 4x times as expensive (if my 1% guess is correct) then conventional windmills, which is still not bad.
Now ill try to debunk myself, i really hope it might be 4% or higher. I mean, since higher winds have a x^2 effect, most energy is going to be harvested from the highest 80percentile of winds, which do oscillate a lot more then the average winds.
I would love to see how much watt you can generate at their corresponding windspeeds with your setup, since theory and practice will be really different. I'm willing to put time in this if you are willing to communicate in some way. Again really great idea man!
OPTIMALISATION:
BTW, if you would try and get the most viable test results I would recommend the following:
- Just use an aftermarket dynamo, a flywheel and a system to make bidirectional movement unidirectional.
- Don't put the machine on the tree, but on the ground next to it so that the rope is at an 30% angle.
- Don't knot the rope to the tree, but put a pully on the tree (at around 80% of the height of the tree). Then put the wire trough it and fasten it back to the ground: at the same 30% angle, but here comes the fun part: From top perspective put it 90degrees from the machine. (To picture it: the machine is at 12 O clock, the tree in the middle of the clock, and the end of the rope at 3 or 9 O'clock) This way you will get the energy from every direction of wind!! (other way to explain it would be to put the generator for a 25m tree around 5m north of it, and fasten the end of the rope 5m east or west)
I would implement the proces from movement to energy in this order:
Rope > Unify the direction > Use a spring to make the forces more stable and thus effective for the dynamo > small gear-up (so you can use smaller flywheel) > Flywheel > gear to optimize turnspeed expected at 80percentile of windspeed like I noted in the calculations (7m/s i could be wrong) > dynamo, of which you know the optimal turnspeed for efficiency.
EDIT:
Windmills cost around 3.50 per watt they generate, not 1, my bad. This makes it so we only need to harness 1% of the wind energy from the tree. To make the Watt/Cost ratio the same as industrial windmills.
Also, I'm sorry, but you're going to have to climb my man... be safe :)
Edit nr. 5 or something:
You need to link it up differently, in therms of placement and wires, another mistake of mine. That way you get a dead angle from 30% of the wind directions.
How to get optimal effect from all directions you have to put the generator where you put in the video, and have 3 wires to 80proc of the top, wire them through their own pulley and throw an anchor for each of them down the tree, all 120deg apart from eachother in direction, so that you can anchor them all 5m away from the tree, such that all wires go away from the tree at a 120 degree angle if you would look at it from the top (like a pizza in 3 slices)
I can help think of a way to combine the energy of these 3 seperate wire arrays if you'd like to :)
Thanks man! 👌 That's what you call valuable feedback!💪
@@ConceptCraftedCreations No problem, its a really interesting problem! I just made an edit still tho hahah, wasnt finished yet. I think you just missed the clock layout suggestion :)
Something to note is that although the parts for his build might be around 50€, if produced en masse in a factory, the costs of this kind of system could be as low if not lower than 2€. That would drop the energy harvesting requirement from 1% to a meager 0.04% to beat traditional wind. Also I'm guessing different species of trees probably have different "wind/bend/energy harvesting properties" as well, providing even more room for further optimizations.
In short, ConceptCraftedCreations, welcome to your new life as the messiah of green energy 😂
This calculation is equivalent to the "high efficiency, high output" model I mention in my main comment.
If we look beyond generating value from the actual energy available on a day barely worth flying a kite or going sailing, then we need to value-add the energy, to make it worth harvesting.
Burning coal or oil is primative, making plastic is advanced.
Likewise, seeing the tree movements as only an energy source is primative, seeing a way to value add that microsupply is advanced.
Hence I propose the wifi mesh idea. The energy havested from the movements of a single tree could power a single node of a wifi mesh and would be barely visible. The value of that service is very high and could demonopolise the entire communications sector, making it profitable (or at least cost neutral) for households to contribute to. Mass produced, a single node for one tree might cost only 50% more than a home wifi router, twice as much with professional installation and, when everybody does this, the multinational telcos are replaced, farmers get value from their windbreak plantings by having access to their online markets from anywhere on their farm, forestry becomes network infrastructure, as do parks.
A few nylon lines, a small mechanism and electronics box, a 25 year life expectancy (equal to solar) and suddenly we see the trees, not the wood, from a markets perspective.
Interesting analysis, but missing one main aspect: considering cumulative distributed upkeep costs
Maintenance on one single giant windmill will *always* be waaaay cheaper than the upkeep required on many, many thousands of small "tree mills".
1- Sure, you can argue that you dont catually need to build the windmill itself, as you are taking advantage of already existing trees. Trees are living organisms, as so, they grow in a somehow predictable way, but not 100% sure. You'll have to constantly adapt the generators, even if you could find a way to automatically adapt the energy harvesting contraption...
2- But look at what is happening with traditionnal windmills: they go bigger and bigger every year. They even started to dismantle small ones and replace them with bigger ones...
>> For a reason. Despite the exponentially higher costs induced by larger windmills, every windmill manufacturer contracting for every grid company of every country is going the same direction : bigger
Common sense here, no need to do the calculation by yourself: After having done the economic profitability analysis, every one is going the same direction, opposite from this
E.T already did this over 3 decades ago. Although trees make inefficient wind gens this idea could come in handy for staying stealthy.
0:48 Bro really said "for now" 🗿🗿
lmaoooooooooooooo
im dead
Can't believe this man put the trees to work and has a model tree to fiddle with.
about time those trees started paying rent in my property lol
Bend dem young is his motto.....
Free the trees! Free the trees! , stop bending trees to your will! Free the trees! Free the trees!
I've been thinking about this. Instead of directly driving a generator, use the movement to winch up a heavy lead weight. Use the weight to drive your generator.
Convert the trees movements to rotational energy, then attatch something similar to a car alternator to the rotation machine. That way the only thing that would really need maintenance over time would be the gears
Since I don't see anyone bringing this up, something to keep in mind is the long-term adverse effects this may have on the tree's health. Tying strings to the branches causes the tree to grow around the strings, eventually having them cut off the internal pipework of the tree and leads to the branch's (and perhaps the entire tree's) death. If there is some way to attach them in a less harmful way, that would be preferable for the tree.
@@GTLugo you are just an enemy of the environment. How about you start being green and accept that we must implement this on a large scale. It's the only way to save the planet.
yes. just screw an eyebolt in. trees dont really care about foreign objects stuck in them, they treat it just like any other wound or broken branch...
but they definitely do not appreciate being strangled...
Bruh have you never seen a tree grow into a fence post or seen pics of things encapsulated by trees? The string would just slowly get absorbed into the tree
@@SoFlyVA no, they dont.
non-continuous things, they can deal with, they cannot survive complete encirclement... like a rope. or wire.
they even strangle themselves with their own roots if you dont untangle the rootball when planting out... whole series of YT vids on "girdling roots" and companies specialising in remedying it...
amazing what a tree will tolerate, but they dont tolerate garroting
@@SoFlyVA It's certainly not healthy for them.
I think this is awesome, and important! This is what you call micro-generation. The idea is that no one micro-generator idea is THE ONE that will solve all of our problems; however if we maximize all the opportunities for micro-generation that we can put a significantly huge dent in our power generation. Think of it this way: imagine if you had these on every tree in your backyard, AND you had a micro-generator on every door and cabinet door in your house, AND your bed and couch had micro-generator, so on and so on.
Actually, there is a mechanical gear that can convert ANY random movement into rotation. That means that connecting cords to the branches and letting them move in random way could be transformed into rotation of the electricity generator.
I didn't know that😮 Will definitely look into it!
how to find it?
@@MaciejPusa UA-cam algorithm advised it to me once when I watched a few videos on "fascinating gears". And I am pretty sure there must be some handbook on gears for engineering students.
@@peterk.6093 there is a book like 507 movements and similar but with no luck I did not found example to convert any random movement :)
There's a guy who made a video with a similar device a while ago. Please watch it, you'll find it very interesting, I promise! The title is "Gravity could be source of sustainable energy"
Use it to wind up a gravity battery or many simultaneously. Perhaps even hoist something fillable such rain water can add weight when it’s high.
Brings a new meaning to power plant
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Suggestion: I think the tree isn't moving enough, so you need to attach it to something with much more movement. I'm imagining one of those red air dancing men, and attach the strings to its arms. Even if this doesn't work it would make a hilarious video.
To actually make it more practical, put it sideways so it's powered by the wind like a windsock, and attach that whole contraption to the tree.
(Reposted because I think my original comment got autodeleted since I put a link in it)
Just found your channel and it's really cool. You have awesome projects!
I don't know why, but when you plugged your phone into the tree, I thought that was brilliant and funny as hell! Well done
You could make a trunk call.
I’ll get my coat.....
@@HairyDalek brilliant
240v 😂
@@HairyDalek Ex-ter-min-ate!
@@HairyDalek Something tells me you're british.
Fabulous!
Similar to an idea I had with a vertical column of tiny spinners for wind, fastened at the tree trunk.
My suggestion right away for yours is to find a way to extend downward and out instead of upward, with a fail safe hinge mechanism to bend inward, guarding against falling or collection of debris. This would potentially significantly reduce breakage and maintenance over time. Thank you for sharing! 🎉🎉🎉
Can't speak for this specific version, but tree energy is brilliant! 80% of the construction is pre-existing trees, and even if they are newly planted, that means carbon capture. This should be an industry, to let it evolve high capacity, low investment versions!
Since this idea does not require deforestation to build a power plant, and it could be adapted on any size tree (the model he used was pretty small so it can be sized up), here are some research questions I would try to answer : A) what sizes produce which powers over the course of one day’s exposure on a regular summer day(72F light breezy)? B) how many trees would it take to power one home? Could those trees fit in a person’s backyard? C) how does it compare to domestic wind turbines such as an archimedes domestic turbine?
I think this could encourage tree planting and give people a reason to not cut them down but use them in a way that is more beneficial for just oxygen, since apparently that isn’t enough
If it doesn't produce money for them,it isn't going to happen.
@@deemisquadis9437 this is a super valid point - yeah, we live in a capitalist society that hinders growth and progress like this for the sake of profit value. Americans haven’t really recovered since ‘08, the cost of living is very expensive, and wages are stagnant. In fact, I looked into this type of technology (I have a bachelors degree in engineering) to make my own device to avoid having to pay my hard earned wages to a utility company. If I could make it as a DIY for myself, I can make a few more and give them to my closest friends. And if I can get maybe a few thousand people generating their own electricity for free rather than pay an electric bill, now we could have a fighting chance at breaking away from dependence on capitalism ending it as we know it. I hope u have a great day
@@deemisquadis9437 I fucking hate money
@@Diamondhero_IX Prime example of yellin into the void. Let's go back to bartering!
A regular wind turbine produces 5MW (10^6 W)
A simple linear generator like this will provide a fraction of one watt. So you need multiple millions of these to replace only a single wind turbine.
While this is still a fun project, it will NEVER be enconomic. Not even ecological, as the hardware will brake down before heaving output a Promille of the energy required to manufacture the copper alone.
This is such a cool idea
Thanks🙌
Harvesting Wind-Energy from fckn trees, this is the wildest thing I saw today, nice keep up the good work.
Good afternoon , I loved this project and I would like to present it as a project at my university. but I would like to know the measurements and if the 3d model is possible.
What if you simply attach a very long cable through a forest, and have it so that it attaches to alot of trees in a line, so that any trees movement applies a force to the cable. which in turn could generate power at one location.
Then you certainly have a lot of pulling force in one place that you can use!🤓 But is it that easy..?🧐
@@ConceptCraftedCreations im not sure if it would be easy. You would have to figure out a way to translate the conflicting movement of each tree trunk into movement of the cable without other trees becoming pointless or interfeering.... if you can figure that out. A giant flywheel might be the best cource of action to store up the force and translate it into power with all that pulling force?
@@DalorathI think separate generators connected to one inverter will always be the more efficient choice(this is also how wind and solar farms work) unless you really only want to use mechanical power without making electricity for some reason.
You'd also have a lot of friction, even with good pulleys, also the weight of the cable would be immense after a few 100 metres. But I like the idea.
That's a terrible idea the first storm would down random branches making a big tangle up in the trees and I fall to see how it would be simple to attach a series of trees together do you have any tree climbing experience it's not impossible but it's not even close to" simply".
One idea i has was to use solar vacuum tubes and thermo electric generators and sand to create a 24hour self charging solar generator. The tree idea is so neat! Great video.
I think that to improve the efficiency of this project it is crucial to test firstly the perfect ratio among velocity and torque, also after this, I think it would be perfect to use more ropes to get energy from as many angles of the tree as possible.
One of the things that I will indeed measure in the near future is the force with which an average branch can pull👌 And what do you think about multiple devices in 1 tree instead of adding ropes to just one?
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I think that multiple devices are the best for pure efficiency, the problem is with the look on the tree, as you remember at the start of the video you mentioned that you wanted to make it less visible as possible. But that's just for people who don't understand that trees don't cry if you put screws in them. I mean personally I always prefer efficiency over look, it depends on you!
@@Gentle_Egono form of life likes it when you damage it, so even if you can't hear it cry personally and even if they have a good mechanism to adapt and "move on" to deal with the damage, still not something that one should do. Efficiency over Looks, but never over Morality.
All the best, and a wholesome day 🌈
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsimo a single device will most likely be more economically-efficient (cost per watt), Definitely less maintenance (plus associated costs), and at the very least more resource-efficient.
So I hope you optimize for that.
Also taking this concept further, I assume that the generator (materials and assembly) is the most expensive part. So ideally you'd have a high quality high duty generator connected to multiple of trees. I image you can get cheap yet robust and reliable ropes and pullies, and feed them through shallow-dug pipes from all the trees you can to the generator. Might be the most cost effective for Scale
All the best! 🌈
We got the lorax trying to make a profit form trees before GTA 6
This guy needs more subscribers, he’s good
So it's a wind generator but instead of propellers you're using tree sails. Seems like a fun idea but maybe not as efficient as other methods.
Ah, so it's using wind energy! Pretty cool.
If only we already had a very efficient way of harvesting wind energy
@@christiannorf1680 But this concept is much cheaper and easier to make, both the tree and the windmill generators have their pros and cons...
@@sosiskago5802 Yes, it's a lot cheaper and will give you a couple of watts at best (if we are being very generous in the estimation). Not even beginning to account for constant maintenance need, logistics nightmare of said maintenance and enough copper cables to run them to the moon to connect even a single forest. And ignoring that utilizing Watt-level sources for large scale power generation doesn't make sense.
You think you can just put them up and they'll do their thing for the next 10 years?
Only harnessing changes in wind energy, it seems.
@@sosiskago5802 for the amount of electricity generated, pretty sure it's way easier and cheaper to build a mini turbine from a toy fan motor?
I am so happy to see this. I have a similar idea to use a linear generator to capture the energy of waves from a body of water. I was stuck on how to construct the linear generator. Thank you!
we got troll physics working irl before gta 6
Completely different concept
trolls physics: slap magnets on peanits
as someone who also comes up with overcomplicated solutions to interesting problems, i appreciate the effort.
but uh...
strangling trees with complicated little machines involving many moving parts that can easily get jammed up with dirt, bugs, and other junk, just to generate a little bit of electricity seems like a bad idea.
what problem does this idea solve that wind turbines don't already solve way more efficiently and simply, with way less wear and tear, way less maintenance, way less waste, and way less material per unit of generated electricity?
Trees are anywhere -> Cheap
They dont make noice, the reduce it
Dosent disturb The views....
It's like this is an early prototype and he's looking for feedback to refine it or something. Wouldn't hurt to be the slightest bit constructive with your feedback, especially since your main complaint is defeated by putting it in a housing and swapping straps for screws/pins.
Efficiency/Cost threshold for windmills isn't that hard to defeat, the issue is that windmills don't have to be specialized nearly as much. If you have the spare time and the correct setting this has a real possibility of supplementing your power needs (assuming the finished product has ironed out some kinks).
@@Heowolf I could see this concept as useful for powering short-term non-critical lighting or signals, similar to how some road signs and barricades have solar-powered flashing lights on them. But as a viable way to power whole households or communities? Not a chance. You'd be looking at wiring up whole forests. Material costs would be astronomical, and it would require constant maintenence as parts decay in the elements, the wired trees grow and die, and animals interfere with the system. The installations will have an effect of some sort on the health of the plants and animals that live there. Inevitably, the forests such setups are installed in will become polluted with bits of plastic, copper, and electronics.
Constructive feedback: consult with experts in the fields your technology will necessarily impact (e.g. arborists, forest people, wildlife people, firefighters, environmental protection authorities, etc) to help determine whether this technology could feasibly scale responsibly.
@@SidShakal You realize that a lot of breakthroughs in fields happen by people from outside of that field, right? A lot of "experts" in the field of renewable energy are in the field to make money, so things that have the potential to provide free, or low cost, energy are not going to get a lot of study by those experts. I have my doubts whether this in particular is feasible. I feel like it it was generating enough electricity to be remotely viable, that would have been included in the video. But, the current climate of shooting down ideas without even attempting to test them is absolutely stifling to innovation.
What a fantastic idea! I would add a winding mechanism so the energy could be generated at a constant rate: the movement charges the winding mechanism and when it reaches a point, it will move the piston constantly, not in the erratic manner you presented. You could even time it so it has the correct frequency of the grid.
On second thought, scrap that: the winding mechanism could itself be a circular generator instead of linear.
Here's an idea if you have two tall trees next to each other.
Tie a rope high in tree A, then string it across to tree B.
As the trees pull away from each other, use your pulley method to convert the linear motion to rotational on tree B, and hang a mass from the free end of the rope to keep the rope taught between the trees.
As the trees pull away from each other, tension force in the rope should generate torque on the pulley which can be converted to high speed rotation with a gear.
Use this output gear to drive a small AC or DC generator rather than using your linear generator.
I had a lot of fun watching this video, thanks!
Thanks! I really appreciate the compliment!
And that could definitely work! Only isn't it true that the trees move in the same direction because the wind hits them from the same angle?🧐 I'm wondering now how often they would pull away from each other and how often they would move simultaneously in the same direction.. none the less some interesting food for thought!🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreations That's what I thought too, however trees act like giant springs moving back and forth. Because each tree has different geometry, the trees end up moving in different directions.
I always find it mesmerizing standing under a group of tall trees and see how they move independently of each other.
Take this video for example:
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@@ConceptCraftedCreations An even better idea would be to install a generator on board of cyclette, tapis roulant and other equipment found in gyms all over the world. Free energy and body toning for everyone...
@@gaetanoroccuzzo or punch a hole in that board and put it around a tree up higher
I wonder how to design a system that will harness both stimulus and opposite motions (and things in between)
Like an A, M, B system, where A and B are the trees, and the M(middle) component is a stable non swaying element that will convert these motions with different modes, that all add up and then sent to the generator
0:17 I have another idea on how to make electricity, using that contraption
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@@envest.t.trading8008 unable to talk internationale?
Finally I found this comment
This is incredibly cool!! I think it would be perfect to install onto existing trees in small places that could keep an eye on them for any maintenance, and benefit from the small amounts of power, like people's backyards. I saw someone mention emergency power in a storm, and I think that would be perfect!! It's super windy during bad storms, great conditions for wind energy.
The biggest problem (among many to figure out) is how to attach it to high branches where most of the wind and movement happens safely...? And without hiring someone to climb the tree, which can get expensive and dangerous. It would be great to somehow set this up yourself at home
2:34 you know, all we think it
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For sure, I can think of a more energy generating use for that device
This reminds me of Vortex bladeless turbines a bit.
I totally get that! But this is still a little different right?🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreations while that was my first thought as well, yours is clearly lower scale, more environtmentally friendly ar first glance (although I'm pretty sure those cables would have several problems with wildlife on a real environment), but, specially, you'll likely have a feasible solution way sooner than Vortex
Because both can fundamentally never be feasible? Yeah, checks out
Very nicely done. Can't wait to see how much power can be generated. By the way, as an engineer and someone who also maintains forestland, trees can easily recover from screws. The straps you used look quite safe as well, but I have seen tight cables wrapped around trees cut off the nutrient supply and kill them. Just something to keep in mind.
you could easily run a rotary generator on this setup instead of needing a linear generator, the issue is getting the random movements of the tree into something that spins in one direction for better efficiency. I'm sure you could do that with some fancy gearing or clutches but I'm not certain how much extra resistance that would add. It would be interesting though to see if you could get a tree to consistently run a flywheel.
Suggestion: have it charge a battery that so the output can be more smooth.
You will also need to convert that ac to dc. But you probably knew that.
Such an out side the box thinking. I love it.❤
Good one! And I indeed made a full bridge rectifier for this prototype to convert the AC to DC🤓
When you said "electricity from trees" I was totally imagining some sort of chemical generator taping into the sugars/starches, like those science projects running a lightbulb with a potato or lemon. I was not expecting this. Cool!
I clicked on this expecting you to have harnessed the small electrical potentials that trees and plants naturally generate and transformed them into a significant, usable source of electricity through genetic engineering, delivering breakthroughs in bioengineering and energy conversion. These genetically engineered trees should automatically grow into houses, adapting their structure to create living spaces while connecting to neighboring trees through a mycelium network to form an organic internet. Any spare electricity generated could be utilized in a distributed computing network, similar to "Folding@home," to continuously improve the tree's own genome, making it more efficient and adaptive over time.
@@HASCAN_PRIME Well, why not?
@@harmoney-tk5wd Because that's not how any of this works
@@christiannorf1680 It could work like that if we were smart enough to implement it.
@@harmoney-tk5wd No it couldn't, because you don't understand how electrical potentials are correlated to energy and what implications it has to actually extract that energy in a usable form. Even a single lemon battery (where the electrical energy doesn't even come from the lemon itself) with around 1V is not enough to power a measly LED.
For the potential differences within organisms we are talking about millivolts.
@@christiannorf1680 All plants already generate some electicity. Not a great amount, but they do. Aren't algae solar panels a thing? All that is left is to genetically engineer that cannabis tree and we're there.
couldn‘t a pulli-system make the effect bigger and require less movement of the tree? I‘m not sure if that might work.
That could definitely work!
Interestingly enough pulley systems and gears have the same effect on machines like this. Gear ratio is a very similar concept to pulley ratios, both allow you to get more force in a short distance by using less force in a long distance!
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsjust letting you know!
Nifty idea! Some thoughts:
1. Every region has 'prevailing winds'--which accounts for most of the wind direction--that can be looked up for your locality. If you only worry about branches perpendicular to the prevailing winds, you will automatically increase the system's efficiency without any extra effort.
2. To multiply the force, just attach the system to multiple branches in a flat chain. (You might want to add springs on each side of each branch or use elastic cord to avoid excessive strain on the system.)
3. For more even power output, I suggest using this system to charge a 'gravity battery' instead of generating electricity directly. (i.e. A heavy weight is hanging from a cord that is wrapped around a drum. As gravity pulls the weight down, the rotating drum uses a gear multiplier to rapidly spin a generator. These are used for LED lamps/phone chargers/etc. in many developing nations as they are so simple & easy to build and use.) A rachetting mechanism could use the force from the branches moving in the wind to pull the weight back up, 'recharging' the gravity battery.
4. Multiple cords, each on its own drum, can be used with a single generator both for more power and to smoothen out the pulses. A simple 'reversing gear mechanism' would swing each drum to the left/right so that the generator shaft is always rotating in the same direction, no matter which direction each drum is rotating.
Cheers!
If this can be made more efficient it would be groundbreaking
Who knows where this idea will end up😋
Attach to large Bamboo !
Palm trees.
big Buildings also? or Powermasts, but isn’t there already oscillating Windturbine who use only a mast? But using existing structures is way better!
Just think of all the nanojouls we could extract from a single tree!
It's a nice idea on paper, but (like many others) dies in contact with reality
Wind energy with extra steps, kinda useless, but also kinda creative :D
I would argue less steps. No building requaired.
actually maybe a little useful.. you see.. if we go to live in a jungle, for small things like charging a mobile or having a light... we need to use solarpanel(but sun is blocked by trees), or we need to use wind(but again, we can't place a big turbine without chopping down trees... and expesive )... or generator(noisy and expensive and who is gonna get fuel daily.. ) so this could be perfect solution, with a charging setup and multiple trees...
but there is also things like gravity light...
It depends on how much energy you can produce with this, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's potential for around 1kw of power like in a similarly sized wind turbine. And there's absolutely a case for small dams or wind turbines that can be used for a microgrid in a rural area. This is probably less powerful but very easy to build and can be scaled up in a small orchard or grove.
As it is now it could still be useful to power lights or a phone charger.
Promotes bird lives rather than endanger them
Wind turbines are notoriously hard to recycle, so it might not be as useless as it looks initially.
I've seen a number of brilliant ideas mentioned already and at the risk of repeating some (since I haven't read all 2473 comments) I've got a couple of ideas that could very well be silly but that I'd like to throw out there anyhow.
I love the idea of a flywheel it is something that I had considered while trying to design a vertical axis wind turbine(VAWT) once.
One thing that I thought might be a good idea is to make the armature that moves up and down (to and fro or oscillating motion) to one that can convert to circular lotion like in a piston; this way there's a better chance to keep a constant flow of kinetic energy as opposed to it stopping everytime the direction has to change.
I'm also thinking on the lines of a capacitor like storage option (springs?) that can store energy that may be too less to generate current due to gear ratios or whatever thereby storing up small bits of energy into something like a gravity battery so that the gravity battery can then power the armature of a standard circular generator.
Lastly, since I understand that adding more components leads to increased loads on the initial mechanical energy harvesting device thereby possibly leading to higher inertia that prevents the flywheel or mechanism to start, a VAWT could be used to harness smaller movements/weaker wind; this in addition to the capacitor/spring - gravity battery concept might offset the inertial problem at the risk of making things more complicated.
I figure that if a freewheel is involved, any small energy boost can help increase the momentum of the freewheel, which will directly convert to energy produced in the longer(ish) run.
2:35 no way 💀
you might harness the movement energy of the whole trunk by putting generator somewhere near instead of mounting it on target tree. would the generator itself move with the trunk that way?
That is also definitely a possibility👌
Congratulations at the hackaday convention 👏
"Trees are constantly moving *in the wind* all the time. Think if we could capture that energy somehow."
Wind turbines: am I a joke to you?
But wind turbines costs a lot.
@@RaddDronzy🤦🏻♂️Wind turbines produces a lot also. Just look at costs per watt or megawatt
someone always has to try and reinvent a more complicated wheel.....
@@RaddDronzy So would a massive setup like this with trees to generate electricity.... and you'd also be destroying lots of habitat for animals, creating big hazards... you don't think very far.
wind turbines are a terribly inefficient design. yes, they are literally a joke to me.
I think the tree itself is already converting kinetic energy into electrical energy in this way and that what you are doing is essentially leeching off of a naturally occurring system which powers the grid of mother nature. Such a system applied at a large scale could have a destructive effect on the environment, rather than a constructive one. What we should focus on is harnessing the excess energy which is discharged by lightning during thunderstorms so that we do not disrupt or corrupt the natural flow of electricity. Lightning is a destructive force and often causes the destruction of trees. The great Nikola Tesla was the last of human kind to attempt such a feat.
Yeah and instead of farming plants and animals for food we should harvest the pollen in the air and plankton from the sea. Its a dumb idea dude, if you dont know what youre talking about at least have some humility.
If you think trees convert kinetic energy into electric energy, you should maybe repeat elementary school
@@GraveFable25 If you want to criticize someone at least make a valid point instead of lobbing insults like a pathetic child.
Your entire argument destroys itself in itself ! 🙄🙄🙄
Definitely excited to see the community evolve this thing.
the power mechanism can only receive power from left and right but not up and down
That is indeed correct! I do have a solution in mind for this, but I will have to test it first🧐
The wind is generating electricity, not a tree.
Well, because of wind we can store energy. Wind doesnt generate energy.
Tree generates energy with the movements caused from wind. (Incase you forgot)
I have always wanted to make a sugar based energy cell that creates electricity from tree sap somehow. I don't know that such a thing exists, but it would be so cool if you could power your house from a forest of trees without cutting them down. It would look something like a maple syrup farm but basically you're powering your house off of solar energy.
Real title (with no clickbaiting):
"I Made a WIND Generate Electricity.."
PG&E gonna be knockin on this man's door. Stay safe 🫣