TURBULENT FLIGHT DOWN THE JERSEY SHORE! - TBM940 Flight VLOG!

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  • @lorenzog0928
    @lorenzog0928 5 місяців тому +1

    Glad to finally meet you today. Wish you the best.
    Lorenzo

  • @chriscrawford8471
    @chriscrawford8471 5 місяців тому +4

    The Kansas City Chiefs used to have a running back named Mike Cloud. Every time he was tackled, the stadium would play Get Off My Cloud!
    Nice video!
    It's not 851TB, but a really nice upgrade. Blue Skies!

  • @bmitch3020
    @bmitch3020 5 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if that construction equipment you saw were the cranes going to cleanup the Baltimore bridge. Depends on when you recorded this.
    Thanks as always for having us along for the ride! I'm looking forward travel that coast by boat in a few years.

  • @RyanONeill-g3l
    @RyanONeill-g3l 5 місяців тому +4

    Cool, Cape May County Airport is my hometown airport. I flew a 172 Cessna out of there several times.

    • @RyanONeill-g3l
      @RyanONeill-g3l 5 місяців тому

      ..and Wildwood is my hometown.

    • @geraldturner9764
      @geraldturner9764 5 місяців тому

      Lived in Villas for 9 years, courtesy of the USCG. Also I caught the hidden msg. Semper Paratus SteveO

  • @johnperry5102
    @johnperry5102 5 місяців тому +4

    Ok it's been a very long time since your last video, there all great we need to see more of them please there very enjoyable thanks😊😊😊

  • @alexjamieson4636
    @alexjamieson4636 5 місяців тому

    I love the videos Steve! Always been interested in aviation and your videos have been such an inspiration to me! I just passed my commercial check ride the 18th! I am looking to become a CFI now! Thank you

  • @NabiehSalim
    @NabiehSalim 3 місяці тому

    I really enjoy your videos, thanks Steve.

  • @kennethdarby8941
    @kennethdarby8941 5 місяців тому

    I love Beach Haven, Used to go there every summer

  • @KevinRudisill
    @KevinRudisill 5 місяців тому

    Dude I’ve flown the 170 in to Ocean City before. Love it!

  • @AydanAhmedSarchilKAZZAZ
    @AydanAhmedSarchilKAZZAZ 5 місяців тому

    thank yo steve to ride along an other time with you so exited for the next video

  • @mikestewart7338
    @mikestewart7338 5 місяців тому

    That was fun. I can tell you enjoyed it.

  • @nicksharp7972
    @nicksharp7972 5 місяців тому

    Hey Steve, fellow coastie and pilot here. Fun to learn you went to TRACEN Cape May as a future civilian professional aviator. I'm an active duty ET1, recently got my instrument rating, working on my commercial, maybe someday I'll be flying a TBM past Cape May and reminiscing too!

  • @ditto1958
    @ditto1958 5 місяців тому

    Wisconsin!? I never knew that Steve. I live in the Fox Valley and in the summers I drive a shuttle bus at the EAA.

  • @NatesRandomVideo
    @NatesRandomVideo 5 місяців тому +1

    Earning your pay with that landing. Nice ride Steve. Thanks!

  • @barryhumphries4514
    @barryhumphries4514 5 місяців тому

    Steveo, very nice. Wish I could fly with you! 👀👍

  • @crookedhooking9819
    @crookedhooking9819 4 місяці тому

    That's pretty cool I love flying into Cape May. I did my first $100 cheeseburger to the flight deck diner but I arrived in the morning so it was more like the $100 scrambled eggs lol. Next time you're in the area take the ferry over or fly to Georgetown, DE KGED, Arena's is a pretty good place for chow!!

  • @KARO69GRP
    @KARO69GRP 5 місяців тому

    That was fun! I enjoyed this. Thanks, have a great weekend.

  • @papalilburn
    @papalilburn 5 місяців тому

    Love the intro music! Dang, what a great job of sitting her down!

  • @MrAreese5
    @MrAreese5 5 місяців тому

    Guess I know which airports I'm flying to now on my solos!

  • @doodle5096
    @doodle5096 5 місяців тому

    My daughter lives less than 2 miles from airport. We go the the restaurant for great breakfasts.

  • @seagullsbtn
    @seagullsbtn 5 місяців тому +29

    Just found myself missing those flights with Reggie and his socks......

  • @411sponge72
    @411sponge72 5 місяців тому

    I'm still expecting the old Tango Bravo callsign. 😢 I'll get otays to it though 😊

  • @wallacegrommet9343
    @wallacegrommet9343 5 місяців тому

    A great airport! I lived under the flight path for 5 years Lol!

  • @mikeanderton4688
    @mikeanderton4688 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for another fine film. 🙂

  • @georgetowncoastie
    @georgetowncoastie 5 місяців тому

    Semper paratus Steveo!
    Echo-159

  • @110knotscfii
    @110knotscfii 4 місяці тому

    I saw Bon Jovi right there back in 2009

  • @godfreyduncan7783
    @godfreyduncan7783 5 місяців тому

    Nicely done Steveo

  • @stevenmines839
    @stevenmines839 5 місяців тому

    Perhaps a silly question here. Now that you've a TBM with the pilot door why enter through the one in the back? Had hoped to see you at Sun N' Fun but couldn't find you. Fortunately there were a few other things to see and do.

  • @waynejohn8
    @waynejohn8 5 місяців тому +2

    That throttle seems rather stiff and awkward!!! Could they not make it easier for you and all the other pilots?

  • @demokid2000
    @demokid2000 5 місяців тому

    great touchdown :)

  • @kevinwalgreen2199
    @kevinwalgreen2199 5 місяців тому +28

    Thank you Steveo love your videos, informative flights and editing! 🎉🎉🎉

    • @westnash
      @westnash 5 місяців тому +3

      And music!

  • @billgalante1181
    @billgalante1181 5 місяців тому +46

    Steve, thank you for taking us along, always a pleasure.

  • @mikemcmenamin1172
    @mikemcmenamin1172 5 місяців тому +12

    I live in Cape May; wish I knew you were in town. BTW Jersy Coast is a MAJOR migratory path for birds this time of year. A lot of beach replenishment in the spring I think they are dredges. Object on the beach is a WWII bunker protecting the Delaware bay. Enjoy the Flight Deck Diner.

  • @flyer7694
    @flyer7694 5 місяців тому +6

    Nice, I got my license and spent a lot of time flying in South Jersey (MIV). I’ve flown to Cape May several times. I also grew up going to Wildwood beaches. And no NJ people did not like Jersey Shore, they were all from NY.

  • @frankpuleo2009
    @frankpuleo2009 5 місяців тому +16

    The old building you spotted on the Cape May Beach is a World War II artillery bunker in case you were wondering

  • @thunderbolt513
    @thunderbolt513 5 місяців тому +2

    Hey Steve! When you say Atlantic City, I immediately think of Steve's Buscemi magnificent Boardwalk Empire.😊 Oh! You buttered that landing. Good job 👏

  • @flyer7694
    @flyer7694 5 місяців тому +19

    I have to add, this is by far my favorite video from you. Brought back many memories, both as a kid going to the shore and as a pilot training in the same area.

  • @darrellgordon7456
    @darrellgordon7456 5 місяців тому +8

    Really enjoyed this, nice relaxing VFR hop, nice to see you travel down memory late with the USCG story

  • @ericsgoldstein
    @ericsgoldstein 5 місяців тому +62

    Seaside Heights is where they filmed that show and no NJ is not a fan of it. I’m comfortable speaking for the entire state on the matter.

    • @outwiththem
      @outwiththem 5 місяців тому +1

      What? he forgot to mention The Sopranos too. LOL.. New Joicy is GumbaLand..

    • @ericsgoldstein
      @ericsgoldstein 5 місяців тому +3

      @@outwiththem but from McGuire up to Boston Ctr some of the best in the business navigate you thru there. I don’t know about goomba but NJ got a lot of diversity. Great melting pot

    • @Thewoodshed85
      @Thewoodshed85 5 місяців тому +1

      @@outwiththem That is mainly Bergen, Union and Hudson counties. and Ocean County only in the summer months. :)

    • @ericsgoldstein
      @ericsgoldstein 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Thewoodshed85 tell the Bennys to go home!!! And SteveO, thanks for putting our little airport on the stage. BLM is my home base. Good people running that place

    • @Brandon-dh5rd
      @Brandon-dh5rd 5 місяців тому +2

      False, I was born and raised in Jersey lived there for 39 years, I and most people I know love the show, you do not speak for all of Jersey.

  • @Rincypoopoo
    @Rincypoopoo 5 місяців тому +3

    Stevo. I broke the like button...

  • @Mr.Martini549
    @Mr.Martini549 5 місяців тому +9

    A short, but very sweet flight. I lived in NJ for 2-1/2 years, but never managed to make it to Cape May. Thanks for taking us along.

  • @rolandoserrano5281
    @rolandoserrano5281 5 місяців тому +1

    Excelente video amigo ... Thank you very much 🛩🛩🪂

  • @gregorylewis8471
    @gregorylewis8471 5 місяців тому +7

    Awesome ride down the Jersey shore! "Semper Paratus" Steveo!

  • @SeanAllocca
    @SeanAllocca 5 місяців тому +6

    I learned how to fly at KBLM back in 2004, man I miss that place thanks for the B roll, it brought back a ton of memories.

  • @lt.col.joebrickmancap8371
    @lt.col.joebrickmancap8371 5 місяців тому +6

    I love flying the Jersey Shore! It’s where grew up! Especially the VFR corridor between NY and NJ over the Hudson!
    Love the videos Steveo!! Keep them coming!

  • @nickbarker561
    @nickbarker561 2 місяці тому +1

    Love Atlantic City! My favorite part is the casino that isn't there anymore!

  • @SIRTEDD
    @SIRTEDD 5 місяців тому +1

    Mmmm butter

  • @cehlin13
    @cehlin13 5 місяців тому +1

    Love the videos Steve but why is it so loud (noise canceling not working?)

  • @mookerthekow
    @mookerthekow 5 місяців тому +3

    Jersey Shore was indeed filmed in Seaside Heights. Gym, tan, laundry.

  • @RussellClark-qu5un
    @RussellClark-qu5un 5 місяців тому +1

    love your videos Steve. Just wondering why we are hearing more engine noise than normal?

  • @markleach116
    @markleach116 5 місяців тому +4

    It was cool to see the Coast Guard facility from the air! My dad was a corpsman on a buoy tender in the early 1950's stationed in Portland, Maine.

  • @khrdina
    @khrdina 5 місяців тому +4

    Another South Jersey person here; I grew up on the river across from Philadelphia and now live up north between KEWR and KMMU.
    That big marshy area at 15:11 - north of AC and Brigantine - is the Edwin Forsyth National Wildlife Refuge. A huge number of birds spend a lot of time in there. My wife and I spend a lot of time birding in there.
    Also, Cape May itself is the birding capital of North America, especially during migration seasons in the spring and fall.

  • @BillyJ10
    @BillyJ10 5 місяців тому +5

    I'm 55 years old. I have lived in N.J. my entire life. We used to go to Wildwood when I was child and returning there as an adult. The recording "Watch The Tram Car Please" is exactly the same.

  • @clickster1883
    @clickster1883 5 місяців тому +4

    My mom was on the USCG 41-footers when she was in the Coast Guard Reserves out of the Channel Islands in Southern California. Being that she’d be on duty on weekends, most of their activity was rescuing recreational sailors and boaters out enjoying a day on the water when something wud go sideways on them and they required assistance. She loved that job and still remembers it fondly.

  • @Atrociousnes
    @Atrociousnes 4 місяці тому +1

    Since they are selling this, what are you gonna be doing ?

  • @brucesmith9144
    @brucesmith9144 5 місяців тому +3

    Awesome flight and spectacular views. I am familiar with Monmouth Airport and have driven past it numerous times. Many great memories from the Jersey Shore as I lived two blocks from the beach for a couple years.

  • @Knee-ko
    @Knee-ko 5 місяців тому +3

    Yep - greased that one Steveo, under tricky conditions. 👍👍

  • @tomnorman2668
    @tomnorman2668 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome flight video of some pretty beaches in Jersey. I:ve never seen the Jersey shore but heard about, Looks awesome!!!. I'm in Alabama and go to Seaside, Florida to enjoy the Gulf. Thanks for the views and the ride-a-long!!! No bag needed!!!!😂

  • @bernardowens1648
    @bernardowens1648 5 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for the ride "Down The Shore"!! I've lived just West of Monmouth County just outside Dix/McGuire for 24 years since I retired from the Air Force. I enjoyed the aerial tour of Seaside and AC!! I also enjoyed Cape May from the air as I haven't ventured down there in all my years living here. Keep up the great content!!

    • @outwiththem
      @outwiththem 5 місяців тому +1

      Salute from Brick, next to rt. 70. But dissapointed he didnt mention The Wise Guys movie and others from New Joicey..

  • @MedicSBK
    @MedicSBK 5 місяців тому +1

    This was a REALLY fun video for me to watch because I grew up on the other side of that bridge that you see when he points out Seaside Heights.. So people know:
    1. We HATE those people, and yes it was filmed in Seaside. They're an unfortunate necessary evil though because they really fuel the economy but they're insufferable lol
    2. The lighthouse is Old Barney.. Barnegat light. It sits on the Barnegat Inlet. Fun fact: its a good solid hour+ car ride to get from the north side of the inlet to the south side of it

  • @julesperegoy6914
    @julesperegoy6914 5 місяців тому

    1966 Golf 61 to bouy Tender wlb 330 Jonquil

  • @adiosk8411
    @adiosk8411 5 місяців тому +3

    As a pilot, I love watching your videos... Being a former Coastie, this one was special. I'll always remember my time at Training Center Cape May.

  • @marwansalih5769
    @marwansalih5769 3 місяці тому +1

    you akways make my day watching your videos. Always ful of knowledge. You make me want to change from law to aviation. might do when I graduate.
    Great guy, keep up the good work.
    From AUS

  • @jeremyfincher7284
    @jeremyfincher7284 5 місяців тому +2

    Hey Stevo. Have really enjoyed your vids over the years. Great stuff and keep up the good work. All the very best from Johannesburg, South Africa

  • @J_Thomas24
    @J_Thomas24 5 місяців тому +3

    Hello Steve! Great to see a new video from you. Your channel was the one that got me hooked on watching vids shared by pilots. It was through your channel and YT recommendations that I also discovered Premier 1 Driver and Citation Max. I really wish Greg would do more videos but I completely understand that situation. Always a pleasure seeing a notification from you and Max popup. Have a great weekend!

    • @moreeseable
      @moreeseable 5 місяців тому

      You said it Brother . : ))

  • @skyepilotte11
    @skyepilotte11 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice to see you again Steveo...nice vfr down the Jersey shore...your audio seemed to be different from past videos...enjoyed the flight.

  • @amamdawhatever
    @amamdawhatever 5 місяців тому +1

    At 10:51 off the right wing is Lakehurst where the Hindenburg accident occurred. When I was in the USAF I had the opportunity to explore the blimp hangars there which was pretty cool!

  • @BobFersch
    @BobFersch 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice flight down the shore. Enjoyed the video and happy to see some home town sights. Love that TBM

  • @pinaricyt
    @pinaricyt 5 місяців тому +3

    Those extra shots of the Forrestal aircraft are nice. I didn't know you had been in the Coast Guard, Steveo. Very cool! Another amazing ride. Thanks so much for inviting us onboard. CAVU and fair winds.

  • @calvinpeck7885
    @calvinpeck7885 5 місяців тому +2

    USCGC 396 HONO!! WOW

  • @Rgreenacres
    @Rgreenacres 5 місяців тому

    Wow, talk about memories. My Brother was stationed at Lakehurst and I was stationed at VA Beach. We would meet at Cape May and have a blast. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Xavier-wo6ce
    @Xavier-wo6ce 15 днів тому

    Steve, , thank you for this super video. Is there any chance you can measure the TQ handle for me (H,W, L) and also tell me the distance between the panel and the yoke when the yoke is in full forward pitch position. Thank you in advance. Xavier (I suppose these value are about the same across the TBM9 series (if i have a choice, i'd prefer info from 900/910/930 (no AT) Thanks

  • @caseykakuske
    @caseykakuske 5 місяців тому

    Didn’t know that I knew you grew up in Wisconsin!? Where? Middleton growing up, now Madison myself. Flew from MSN to Rhinelander, WI my best friend Brendan on his their TBM91BM. Amazing aircraft that they have moved on from.

  • @davesemak
    @davesemak 5 місяців тому

    Great ride, I enjoyed hearing about your Coastguard experience. I’ve been aboard a couple newly built buoy tenders that were docked in Cleveland en route to their new duty station, they were built in Wisconsin

  • @thebigguy8306
    @thebigguy8306 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Steveo for all the teaching moments you've provided. NJ - nothing good comes from NJ, maybe Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Sinatra

  • @williamgibb5557
    @williamgibb5557 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the flight. Family has been in New Jersey since 1880s and we love it except for the summer traffic and shoobies. Years ago, I was with the company that paved the main runway. Big one. Ate at the Flight Deck dinner in June 2024. Great food but crowded. Took flying lessons at Woodbine .Stay safe my friend.

  • @kpeecee
    @kpeecee 5 місяців тому

    Hi Steve, so can you tell us why you made the journey, were you picking up passengers?

  • @lordflyquad4721
    @lordflyquad4721 5 місяців тому +2

    Beautiful flight! That's my neck of the woods. All of those South Jersey towns, except Atlantic City (my original hometown) are great places to visit (esp. in summer) or live. Ventnor, Margate, Longport, Ocean City, Strathmere, Sea Isle, Avalon, Stone Harbor, The Wildwoods, Cape May...all have beautiful (and expensive, lol) homes, great restaurants, nightlife (except dry O.C.), and beaches (boating, fishing, surfing...). Beautiful seeing it all from the air.

  • @Ultra-FlightSim
    @Ultra-FlightSim 5 місяців тому

    awesome flightvlog again ! really appreciated Steve !

  • @NeonsStyleHD
    @NeonsStyleHD 5 місяців тому

    Jeez what happened to your noise cancelling headphones?????

  • @donhiers5787
    @donhiers5787 5 місяців тому

    Missed seeing you at Sun ‘n Fun 50th at KLAL. Great week, bought 9-27 club tix and the food, service, comfort, and daily airshow was superb. Hopefully, you’ll attend next year.

  • @ski35off34
    @ski35off34 5 місяців тому

    Good to share flight with you. NJ shoreline my younger stomping grounds. Visiting Sanford, Fl air show ? B.Angels here this weekend. Ron, KORL OM r/w 22. Native of Yardley, PA.

  • @dingodelta
    @dingodelta 15 днів тому

    I dont know why but 851 Tango Bravo seems to roll off the tongue better than 949 Bravo Zulu

  • @SuperPirate100
    @SuperPirate100 5 місяців тому

    Another really good video , I've navigated a ship along that coast a few times and it's always a distant view so it was nice to see what it looks like . Thanks very much

  • @rikspector
    @rikspector 5 місяців тому

    Steve,
    I live in Ferndale, WA but up until 10 years ago I lived on the Jersey Shore.
    I had a flying lesson in my 20's at Monmouth Airport and my wife and I honeymooned at Wildwood Crest.
    Being birders we've covered most of the coast and used to go to Cape May a couple of times a month...yeah BIRDS, Millions of BIRDS)
    I love the area and my wife used to take our daughter to Seaside Park Boardwalk , quite often.
    This was a real nostalgia trip ,
    Thank you so much!,
    Cheers,
    Rik Spector

  • @joetroyner
    @joetroyner 5 місяців тому

    Cape May (KWWD) had runway 10/28 shut down for what seemed like forever. The winds are almost always coming from the west at that airport. Can't tell you how many hairy 90 deg. crosswind landings I made on runway 1/19 just to grab breakfast..

  • @kevinmalloy2180
    @kevinmalloy2180 5 місяців тому

    Hi Steve, great to see you in our area. I fly a ‘46 Aeronca Champ into Cape May (WWD) frequently from South Jersey Regional (VAY). You’re right that it has a great FBO and the museum and café are well worth a visit-as is the beautiful town! And neat to hear you used to go down the shore as a youngster and trained at the USCG facility. (When I was a kid long ago in the ‘60s we went to Townsends Inlet and Sea Isle and our boardwalk was Ocean City-Wildwood was off limits literally because our strict parents felt Wildwood was…well…too wild!) Love your videos and your disciplined, safety-first flying!

  • @adrianodagenova247
    @adrianodagenova247 5 місяців тому

    Is the Jersey Shore running South from NY to....where? Delaware? N. Virginia?

  • @stillflyingovernj
    @stillflyingovernj 5 місяців тому

    Steveo, I never knew you were a Jersey Boy (kind of)! That flight down the Jersey coastline has always been one of my favorites. Seaside and Ocean City, NJ were my childhood summer vacation spots in the 60's and 70's. That was wise to climb to 2000ft, I've passed many sea gulls "flying backwards" along the Jersey coast, as I flew past them at 500ft and 135mph (when I was young and foolish). I have a few Jersey and NY Coastline flights on my site if anyone is interested.

  • @Bill3558
    @Bill3558 5 місяців тому

    Really? You enjoyed flying that high performance turbo prop at 2500 feet msl?

  • @SurfingTubes
    @SurfingTubes 2 місяці тому

    22:40 The abandoned building off Cape May is an old WW2 gun bunker, Fort Miles Battery 223

  • @jackrakin904
    @jackrakin904 5 місяців тому

    Thanks Steve for the excellent trip "down the shore". I'm born and bred in Jersey and a former resident of Monmouth Country. Really enjoyed the flight. I wished your flight path was closer to the coastline. As You might know, you flew over Coast Guard Stations in Manasquan Inlet, Barnegat Light, Beach Haven, Townsends Inlet, Ocean City, (to name a few) until you reached Cape May. Thanks again for great videos.

  • @bigbob2638
    @bigbob2638 5 місяців тому

    Boy, this bought back a lot of memories. Are there still landing fees at KBLM? I flew from CDW to 26N to visit my mom at that time. We use to spend summers in Ventnor NJ. I played golf all over south NJ in the area you flew over with my cousin. He lives very close to Eagles Nest Airport, Tuckerton.
    I never flew into ACY but I remember Air Force 1 doing touch and goes there as a kid. There is an Air National Guard base there too.
    Bader Field was a very small air strip in Atlantic City. They use to have Twin Otters flying in and out of it. From there they would to a short hop to EWR. It was operated by Southern Jersey airways now defuncted. Go to the Lobster House in Cape May, good eatin...Thank you for this Video Steveo!! Salt water taffy for every one.....

  • @MrCrystalcranium
    @MrCrystalcranium 5 місяців тому

    Stone Harbor is where my family vacationed most of my life just north of Wildwood. Cousin has a beach block house there. INSANE prices for real estate in SH and Avalon. There is no experience quite like the Wildwood Boardwalk on a summer night. The people, sights and sounds are incredible. Mack's Pizza...the Hell Hole centrifuge...Wild Mouse etc. The people you see there span the spectrum from rich and famous to full body tattooed female Hells Angels. "Watch the tram car please...watch the tram car."

  • @MrJamesOcean
    @MrJamesOcean 5 місяців тому

    Hi Steve thanks for your videos, many years ago I was a commercial pilot but haven’t flown in a number of years now. I have a question regarding the TBM vs the Epic 1000? Have you ever had a chance to fly the Epic ? What are your thoughts comparing it to the TBM. When I compare the numbers they are similar just wondering if flying them is a noticeable difference. Keep the videos coming. James.

  • @BeechSportBill
    @BeechSportBill 5 місяців тому +1

    Reunion!

  • @ef2111
    @ef2111 5 місяців тому

    Steve, did you go to high school in Philly?! I went to Central! Did my first flight lesson at Wings Field and finished my PPL at Northeast Philly. Did my first solo cross-country flight to WWD. I knew I liked you for a reason! Safe flying!

  • @kf8679
    @kf8679 5 місяців тому

    Steveo u grew up in Wisconsin??? Where?…
    Coast Guard too? …learning so much about you I did not know in this video ..Awesome video as always …great views of the beach line in NJ ..

  • @granddad-mv5ef
    @granddad-mv5ef 5 місяців тому

    Enjoyed it thoroughly! I hope to see you sometime at our Air Museum at Robins AFB, Warner Robins,Ga.

  • @Boradumir
    @Boradumir 5 місяців тому

    In my opinion these TBMs are the most elegant and beautiful airplanes I know. I liked the TBM850 more because of the steam gauges. But the glass cockpit is much better for real world flying.