2023 Ford Expedition and Jeep Wagoneer small overlap crash test IIHS ratings explained

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • Raul Arbelaez, VP of the IIHS Vehicle Research Center, breaks down the 2023 Ford Expedition's performance in the IIHS small overlap crash test, and contrasts that performance with the good-rated 2023 Jeep Wagoneer.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 113

  • @gotdemnoscopez
    @gotdemnoscopez 4 місяці тому +95

    If jeep can do it, so can ford. I really hope to see improvement for the expedition, because all cars should be safe.

    • @gabesmath105
      @gabesmath105 4 місяці тому +4

      jeep *barely* did. it folded like a lincoln LS/honda odyssey

    • @Parsaval64
      @Parsaval64 4 місяці тому

      Cheap chinesium at its finest

    • @hanger2633
      @hanger2633 4 місяці тому +6

      @@gabesmath105jeep had a good compared to the ford,,, jeep structure got like a acceptable while the ford got poor, the injuries were way worse than the jeeps, there is no barely here

    • @supersteve1585
      @supersteve1585 3 місяці тому

      But also jeep around 5 years newer

    • @kevinphillips1280
      @kevinphillips1280 3 місяці тому +3

      This wasn’t even a real comparison, rigged, fake. The ford and the Jeep didn’t hit in the same place, the ford was a thinner hit by about 1.5 to 2 feet. That’s going to make a big difference between what you see from the outside.

  • @corpnupe85
    @corpnupe85 4 місяці тому +69

    There goes my plan for purchasing a 2023 Expedition. Thank you for providing this test!

    • @gamingwitharlen2267
      @gamingwitharlen2267 4 місяці тому +20

      Just buy a minivan instead, they have the same cargo space for 30 grand less

    • @josephsmith8275
      @josephsmith8275 4 місяці тому +8

      @@gamingwitharlen2267 Unless he's trying to tow something or live in a country side yeah minivan can be a better alternative

    • @ExcursionMAN
      @ExcursionMAN 4 місяці тому +8

      Just buy a Corvette ZR1

    • @SubaruSakamak1
      @SubaruSakamak1 4 місяці тому +3

      Just buy a excursión v10

    • @corpnupe85
      @corpnupe85 4 місяці тому

      @@gamingwitharlen2267 Nah, no minivansl for me.

  • @Justarandomdoor
    @Justarandomdoor 4 місяці тому +46

    NEW IIHS VIDEO GUYS

  • @steveallwine1443
    @steveallwine1443 4 місяці тому +24

    On the Expedition page, the IIHS shows a curious still image where it looks like the test dummy’s leg was trapped inside of the crushed car. I notice they didn’t take much time to show up close just how poorly the vehicle performed and apparently amputated their dummy’s leg!

    • @fangorn40
      @fangorn40 4 місяці тому +3

      You're absolutely right. If you look again, the yellow bit is the dummy's shoe. The entire foot and ankle is completely mashed into the wheel well and dashboard. If you think how much tougher the dummy's body is in relation to a human body, I'd be surprised if a real victim of that crash ever walked normally again.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff 4 місяці тому +2

      Oh, my. And they gave the Marginal rating.... Now I know that Marginal means "you lose your legs".

  • @KnotWithJosh
    @KnotWithJosh 4 місяці тому +16

    can’t wait for potential tests on the sequoia and the armada

    • @stupidvideos1449
      @stupidvideos1449 3 місяці тому

      Armada will fail. Its a 15 year old piece of crap

  • @pizzaprob
    @pizzaprob 4 місяці тому +12

    Now that's unusual for 2024 cars

  • @mariogarcia2254
    @mariogarcia2254 4 місяці тому +9

    Absolutely no excuse for this. Small overlap was introduced in 2013

  • @themightymrpink
    @themightymrpink 2 місяці тому +2

    Y’all should test the Suburban, Expedition Max, Wagoneer L as well as the Sequoia and Armada next to see how those SUVs fare in these crash tests.

  • @WailOfDoom
    @WailOfDoom 4 місяці тому +4

    This sucks, I really was considering the Ford Expedition/Lincoln Navigator, but after this, I can’t do it in good conscience of safety.
    If the cabin is built so poorly, what else is?
    This is embarrassing.

  • @matthewmooney4301
    @matthewmooney4301 4 місяці тому +5

    In the Ford Expedition, the rocker panel detached from the A-pillar. Did this result in extensive intrusion into the occupant compartment?

  • @alg003
    @alg003 4 місяці тому +12

    Bigger doesn't equal safer.

    • @mikldude9376
      @mikldude9376 4 місяці тому +2

      In some ways it does .

    • @alg003
      @alg003 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mikldude9376watch this video and try again

  • @IvanIvanov-db2rq
    @IvanIvanov-db2rq 3 місяці тому +3

    I really want to see cybertruck crash test

  • @king_83227
    @king_83227 4 місяці тому +4

    Do you guys plan on testing the 2025 civic when it becomes available?

    • @thegadgetmania
      @thegadgetmania 4 місяці тому +3

      Probably not, there aren't any new design changes.

    • @SuperMrgentleman
      @SuperMrgentleman 4 місяці тому +2

      If there's a new change, almost certainly given the popularity, if it's the same, no. Otherwise as a small car the Civic just isn't going to be the safest choice, regardless of engineering.

    • @JoshuaPlays99
      @JoshuaPlays99 3 місяці тому

      Still waiting on them to release the small overlap crash footage for the 2022-2024 civic.

  • @matthewmooney4301
    @matthewmooney4301 4 місяці тому

    When will you test the Ford Bronco in the updated moderate overlap?

  • @Bomby_dude
    @Bomby_dude 3 місяці тому

    yo can you do a crash test of the chevy g20 van i wanna see if is safe for my family

  • @deep_drift
    @deep_drift 4 місяці тому +7

    While the Jeep Wagoneer might be a Top Safety Pick, just be wary on its reliability. Many owners have reported many issues with this model.

    • @toddlehman1
      @toddlehman1 4 місяці тому

      The 4xe (plug in hybrid) version has massive drivetrain software issues. Learn about this before buying or leasing one

    • @TBird100636
      @TBird100636 4 місяці тому +4

      @@toddlehman1 They don't make a 4Xe Wagoneer.

    • @deep_drift
      @deep_drift 4 місяці тому +2

      I think your referring to the Grand Cherokee, but none the less, any Jeep or any vehicle from Stellantis (Jeep’s Parent Company), I would be very Cautious about buying.

    • @toddlehman1
      @toddlehman1 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TBird100636 Oh shoot whoops. I was thinking about the grand Cherokee 4xe.

    • @tedlulis973
      @tedlulis973 4 місяці тому +1

      So Jeep did far better than any of the competition ..And this surprises no one. Its the most awarded SUV's on the planet and there is a reason for that

  • @Thegasmask-oc1hi
    @Thegasmask-oc1hi 4 місяці тому

    Is it possible that in the event of a crash you can hold onto the steering wheel to keep yourself from flying forward?

    • @ihavenoideas5844
      @ihavenoideas5844 3 місяці тому

      It wouldn't really help

    • @Thegasmask-oc1hi
      @Thegasmask-oc1hi 3 місяці тому

      @@ihavenoideas5844 ok thanks. My sister bully wanted to know that and had me comment it ha ha.

  • @matthiasbalke9089
    @matthiasbalke9089 3 місяці тому

    The problem with the front offset crash test is that an oncoming vehicle would also travel at 35 mph so the test should really be done at 70 to be accurate.

  • @djplonghead5403
    @djplonghead5403 4 місяці тому +3

    Can you do a the Chevy trax / Buick Envista. They are becoming very common on the roads.

    • @iihs-hldi
      @iihs-hldi  4 місяці тому +2

      We're working on both models now.

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 3 місяці тому

      @@iihs-hldiwill there be a headlight test when those release? Many GM products don’t seem to have headlight tests.
      Also, is there a way you could start testing interior lighting? Buttons not being lit could be a safety hazard.

    • @haidengameplays
      @haidengameplays 2 місяці тому

      Can you please crash test dodge hornet @@iihs-hldi

  • @bikingmoments
    @bikingmoments 4 місяці тому +23

    These giant SUVs are putting EVERY road user, including their owners, at greater risk - it’s wrong to see them becoming popular choice for Americans.

    • @viktmit
      @viktmit 4 місяці тому

      👍

    • @aaronbryan5095
      @aaronbryan5095 4 місяці тому

      Americans liking these kinds of vehicles just keeps pouring more fuel onto the “Americans are dumb” fire.

    • @Swiss4.2
      @Swiss4.2 4 місяці тому +1

      Large SUVs like this are a bit like nuclear weapons. Once one person gets one everybody else rushes out to buy them to feel safe; now you have roads where 50% of traffic are SUVs like this or pickup trucks and other large vehicles. The worst part is these vehicles are actually quite unsafe in a vacuum because of their high mass and weaker structures, they're only "safe" if you crash into somebody else in a smaller car because the laws of physics will mean that you'll win by default just because your car is so heavy. People should stop buying these ridiculous SUVs and start buying large sedans and crossovers. German sedans like the Mercedes S-Class are 100x safer for the driver and also aren't a hazard to everyone else on the roads like pedestrians and drivers of small cars.

    • @babochee
      @babochee 4 місяці тому

      It's not morally wrong to own a big SUV. I love my X7, Q7 and Suburban.

    • @bikingmoments
      @bikingmoments 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Swiss4.2 you got it so right! I think the lack of regulatory control (lobbying) is also to be blamed. These SUVs would fail totally in the EU pedestrian safety regulations for passenger vehicles, but neither IIHS nor NHTSA have this authority to regulate manufacturers.

  • @eliasramos8670
    @eliasramos8670 4 місяці тому +1

    I really enjoy this type of content, a bit more expaliend

  • @iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076
    @iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076 4 місяці тому

    The 2013 Honda Civic even earned a good rating. Which was 10 years ago for a very small vehicle

  • @adrianflorea1334
    @adrianflorea1334 4 місяці тому +3

    Tesla cybertruck test 👍

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff 4 місяці тому +2

      No need to waste money on it.

  • @Theworldwidetrucker
    @Theworldwidetrucker 4 місяці тому +1

    Finally some content

  • @frankarango4071
    @frankarango4071 3 місяці тому

    It's a shame, especially considering price tag, how poorly these massive vehicles perform in safety tests.

  • @petergilbert144
    @petergilbert144 4 місяці тому +1

    The Expedition has that much intrusion & the head gets twisted around like that and it gets a Marginal instead of Poor as shown in the end chart?

  • @ajvalientes5446
    @ajvalientes5446 2 місяці тому

    Unusual in a way that the Expedition doesn't have the same structure as the truck sibling F150.

  • @Jrrsj
    @Jrrsj 4 місяці тому

    Surprised but also not surprised to see this perform poor. It’s based on the F-150. Ford only made improvements to the F-150 over the years and not the Expedition because IIHS didn’t test full sized SUVs. Automakers cutting corners on crash safety like they did before the passenger side overlap test started (only improving the driver side). I’m sure this will be addressed with the 2025 model.

  • @Yormsane
    @Yormsane 3 місяці тому

    1:25 The buckling around the Wagoneer's B and C-pillar area and roof is not reassuring.

  • @tew3
    @tew3 4 місяці тому

    i love you IIHS

  • @MouthPeaceCorbett
    @MouthPeaceCorbett 12 днів тому

    So we focus on the expedition when the tahoe has arguably worse scores...
    And where is the armada and sequoia? The sequoia is the newest truck, it shouldve been tested and compared as well.
    The armada and expedition are being remodeled and released soon so hopefully they get those tested and we see how they do.
    Lastly, people do get these vehivkes because they do save lives. Newer cars in general are very safe. Though they didnt do well in these tests, an article released no more than 5 yrs ago rated both the yukon(tahoe) and expedition top 20 in vehicles with lowest fatalities

  • @HugoB-x4x
    @HugoB-x4x 3 місяці тому +2

    This is why you don’t get a Ford plain and simple

  • @MalayballIsraelsux
    @MalayballIsraelsux 4 місяці тому

    Because of my birthdate (2012), I couldn’t ask you to do 2009 Mazda biante minivan crash test

  • @kubeanie18
    @kubeanie18 3 місяці тому

    theres a new generation of expedition this year.. with the new f150 frame.. so well see

  • @drury2d8
    @drury2d8 4 місяці тому +3

    $80K for mediocrity. Americans: TAKE MY MONEY.

  • @Ahiru8b
    @Ahiru8b 3 місяці тому +1

    we need cybertruck

  • @InvestBetter.
    @InvestBetter. 4 місяці тому

    The local Chevy dealer by me has like 20 Expeditions stacked in the used car lot

  • @supersteve1585
    @supersteve1585 3 місяці тому

    Weird thing is the expedition is based of the F150 and that did better

  • @aec258
    @aec258 4 місяці тому

    Ford used to make the side they crashed stronger, now they test both sides Ford decided both sides should be weak, lol.

  • @rustlesee
    @rustlesee 4 місяці тому +2

    You mean the Expedition that came out almost 7 years ago didn’t do well on a newer test? *shock face* I’m sure the redesign will address it.

    • @Wasabi9111
      @Wasabi9111 4 місяці тому +17

      This test has been out for at least 10 yrs so it’s not new. There’s really no excuse for it.

    • @toddlehman1
      @toddlehman1 4 місяці тому +2

      Dangerous copium.

    • @lycorish46
      @lycorish46 4 місяці тому +5

      This test was introduced in 2012…. For a design from 2018 this is pretty bad. Cars older than this do just fine lol.

    • @97Crazysteve
      @97Crazysteve 4 місяці тому +5

      Imagine buying a 2024 car and getting 2004 safety.

    • @aaronbryan5095
      @aaronbryan5095 4 місяці тому

      Keep coping ford fanboi.
      The big 3 are lucky that they still have so many dumbasses that are willing to buy their junk.

  • @mjdgi1
    @mjdgi1 3 місяці тому

    You just got to keep the Jeep from burning down .

  • @arone6298
    @arone6298 4 місяці тому +1

    Please test the new c class

    • @느낌표-t1l
      @느낌표-t1l 4 місяці тому +1

      they already did and result is up online, just no footage

  • @kevinphillips1280
    @kevinphillips1280 3 місяці тому

    So maybe try that test again hitting in the same location. The fords hit was thinner than the Jeep and this whole thing looks biased. Jeep is getting desperate for sales.

    • @ihavenoideas5844
      @ihavenoideas5844 3 місяці тому

      It's 25% overlap for all vehicles and has been since this test was introduced a decade ago.

  • @joselmendoza5763
    @joselmendoza5763 4 місяці тому

    90% Aluminum expedition

  • @JT-ng2tk
    @JT-ng2tk 4 місяці тому

    How can these cars be so huge yet perform so poorly in 2024? These cars are already dangerous to other drivers and pedestrians and cyclists, yet can't even keep its occupants safe... Figure it out!!!

  • @hughventer2934
    @hughventer2934 2 місяці тому

    Your rating strategies are outdated, fix them

  • @chiiiiweeeee
    @chiiiiweeeee 3 місяці тому

    looks like another recall for ford 💀

  • @aaronbryan5095
    @aaronbryan5095 4 місяці тому +2

    Basically a bunch of oversized and overpriced sub-standard junk cars. Plus the way their rear quarters buckled on a frontal collision makes me worried for the passenger that would be sitting in the 3rd row, especially if the crash happens at a higher speed.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff 4 місяці тому

      They have their use cases. Don't be so sour.

  • @BenthamSheila-c8o
    @BenthamSheila-c8o 12 днів тому

    Robinson Carol Lee Jessica Thomas Karen

  • @Mabeylater293
    @Mabeylater293 4 місяці тому

    Buy Tesla instead

  • @kayladabootman8228
    @kayladabootman8228 Місяць тому

    Anderson Jennifer Moore Dorothy Thompson Karen

  • @angelicaromo9879
    @angelicaromo9879 4 місяці тому

    Meow

  • @operationbs7610
    @operationbs7610 4 місяці тому

    Eh im still buying ford over the Italians piece of junk products. Rip Mopar

  • @Nino_J
    @Nino_J 2 місяці тому

    Ford sucks