Banning the Abortion Pill

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  • Опубліковано 29 кві 2023
  • A rant about the state of women's healthcare and how banning the abortion pill would affect millions of women in the country.
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  • @echo_soldier
    @echo_soldier Рік тому +171

    What really got me was the fact they argued "safety concerns" over the FDA's approval. It wasn't about safety concerns. People who are anti-abortion clearly don't care about safety.

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 Рік тому

      How do you mean? Back up your hypocritical claim. I'm anti-abortion. It kills innocent babies. Fact. I do agree in extenuating circumstances like rape and the lives of the mother or baby are in danger but those are not normal circumstances. Adults need to take adult responsibilities when playing adult games. All abortion does is absolve women from responsibility even tho they allowed themselves to get pregnant. No pregnancy is being forced on anyone. Their actions CAUSED them to get pregnant. "My body, my choice" doesn't exist. It's a twisting of the facts to male it seem like they're losing rights. No one has a right to kill an innocent person. Plus you can't have a Dr remove a healthy kidney and have it discarded just because. So there goes "my body, my choice" right out the window

    • @HJKampe
      @HJKampe Рік тому

      Yep, for some reason, they really care about an abortion pill that's practically safe than other drugs with much higher death rates e.i. aspirin.

    • @PokemonRules333
      @PokemonRules333 Рік тому +24

      They don’t care about the baby once it is born either if the mother does something bad to the baby or the father does something then these people don’t give a fuck

    • @AzureDragon158
      @AzureDragon158 Рік тому +22

      "Safety concerns" for a drug that's been used safely for decades. Right, I definitely believe that.

    • @docostler
      @docostler Рік тому

      The only way a judge should be able to render an order affecting FDA approval is if the case revolves around some misapplication of the Agency's own standards set out for the approval process. In this case, the Texas judge tried to attack the scientific results using false statements and junk 'science'. A Trumpian judge decided that he knew more about approving a drug and interpreting scientific results than the scientific agency tasked with the decision. There is no suggestion of scientific fraud, or bribery, or anything else illegal, although the reasons the judge cited included plenty of fraudulent 'science' provided by anti-choice 'thinktanks'. The decision was based on the emotional childhood the judge appears to be living in.

  • @RawbeardX
    @RawbeardX Рік тому +77

    one mistake I want to point out: these lawmakers understand. the cruelty was always the point.

    • @archapmangcmg
      @archapmangcmg Рік тому

      The spiteful is a frighteningly large demographic and they manage to get some of their own elected.

  • @justaguy6100
    @justaguy6100 Рік тому +28

    Let's add to this issue the fact that obstetricians were already changing specialties due to malpractice insurance premiums going through the roof. NOW many are leaving the states where politicians have decided they want to doctor over their shoulders.

  • @tomschmidt381
    @tomschmidt381 Рік тому +31

    I don't understand the legal basis that allowed legilatures baning a FDA approved drug.

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому

      Their stated argument is not that the FDA approved the drug. Rather, their argument is that the FDA used improper process to approve the drug. The reason many on the Right are making this argument now is because it is the same argument they are making about the process to approve the mRNA CoVID-19 vaccine.
      It might very well be the case that Mifepristone is fully efficacious and safe. But, so the argument goes, if that was demonstrated by accident, rather than through rigorous, peer-reviewed study, then Mifepristone should be removed from the market unless/until it can be demonstrated to be efficacious and safe in a controlled Phase III trial.

  • @tgbedini
    @tgbedini Рік тому +56

    Thanks for discussing a valid and important subject, which borders on medicine, science, and politics, all of which affect the way we deal with the world.

  • @whee38
    @whee38 Рік тому +18

    The lawmakers banning mifepristone were informed about the consequences, they just don't care

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance Рік тому +13

      Oh no, they care.
      They _want_ the consequences.

    • @jursamaj
      @jursamaj Рік тому

      The consequence they care about is that the religious nuts who put them in power will kick them right back out of power.

    • @blacky_Ninja
      @blacky_Ninja Рік тому +4

      Remember: The cruelty ist the point.

  • @paulroyle-grimes8279
    @paulroyle-grimes8279 Рік тому +10

    Politicians also make decisions about education which they know nothing about, scientific research which they know nothing about, internet technology that they know nothing about.

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +1

      The truth is, politicians worth their salt, will have one of their staffers research subjects like these, and others, and at least aren't completely ignorant (or, at least, they shouldn't be). I'm convinced that many politicians actually do know enough about these subjects to sieve that knowledge through their own ideology. What results is an ideologically based argument against legislation that mostly makes sense.

    • @weatherman1504
      @weatherman1504 Рік тому

      "Internet technology that they know nothing about"
      Careful now, you don't wanna clog up your series of internet tubes with all of these words you're writin' Jimþo.

    • @paulroyle-grimes8279
      @paulroyle-grimes8279 Рік тому

      @@weatherman1504 🤣🤣👍

    • @louisrobitaille5810
      @louisrobitaille5810 Рік тому

      Politicians know very well what they're doing about education. They WANT to make their population dumb because educated people are impossibly hard to manipulate.

  • @bigJovialJon
    @bigJovialJon Рік тому +19

    I was kind of hoping you would talk about the judge's logic behind banning it. From what I've heard he said some women have discomfort after taking it. He didn't seem to consider the possibility that other medical interventions also cause discomfort and giving birth causes discomfort.

    • @jursamaj
      @jursamaj Рік тому

      The judge didn't care, and didn't use any real logic. He's a political hack.

    • @blacky_Ninja
      @blacky_Ninja Рік тому +3

      You mean the thing where women daily scream their lungs out from the pain, not to mention the whole backpain and throwing up, might be uncomfortable for them?
      Nah, i don‘t buy it 😂

  • @pjosephlthewonder5082
    @pjosephlthewonder5082 Рік тому +11

    It is not just politicians making this happen. I believe that sense the political right religious cults can tell Women how to accept their Rights, then Women can tell the political right religious when they get paid, what privileges the get and what they can think.
    Peace

  • @CrazyEveeFanGirl234
    @CrazyEveeFanGirl234 Рік тому +16

    I'm waiting for them to take away my birth control pill.

    • @hikaru9624
      @hikaru9624 Рік тому +5

      Dont give them more ideas. Politicians can barely manage one idea.

    • @angrydoggy9170
      @angrydoggy9170 Рік тому +6

      They will go after condoms once that’s done.

    • @hikaru9624
      @hikaru9624 Рік тому +8

      @@zackwerth77 Yeah no. We have every right to worry. I don't live in America but even I can see the bs. A collection of cells doesn't have priority over my health.

    • @hikaru9624
      @hikaru9624 Рік тому

      @@zackwerth77 I'll agree with you in that preventative actions is usually better. The more people who know how to have safe s3x the better as it does reduce the number of teenage pregnancies. But I can't agree with you in that a fetus counts as a human life (early term that is. Late term is something else and entirely different ball game). As we all know things beyond our control happen. So safe abortions should remain as a *choice* to all, even in late term! I don't expect anyone to carry a still born to term and risk their life over it.

    • @quackatit
      @quackatit Рік тому +2

      ​@@zackwerth77We can argue about the "already existing human life". Whats your definition for that?

  • @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm
    @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm Рік тому +3

    During the 1858 Abraham Lincoln- Stephen Douglas debates, Douglas said he did not support outlawing slavery, saying, “I am now speaking of rights under the Constitution, and not of moral or religious rights. I do not discuss the morals of the people favoring slavery, but let them settle that matter for themselves. I hold that the people who favor slavery are civilized, that they bear consciences, and that they are accountable to God and their posterity and not to us. It is for them to decide therefore the moral and religious right of the slavery question for themselves within their own limits.”

    • @MisterUnlikely
      @MisterUnlikely Рік тому +2

      ... and for the sake of the many friends I never would have met for the lack of their freedom, I am glad that Stephen Douglas never became President. The amendments have always addressed moral rights, addressing, in their way, freedom of expression, the quartering of soldiers, and appropriate limits to search and seizure. They address the nature of 'right' and 'wrong' on a national level. Then again, slavery fails as an analog for abortion in that those kept as slaves were living, autonomous beings surviving outside others' bodies.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield Рік тому +5

    I worry about the future of healthcare in the USA

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Рік тому

      One system for millionaires, no other system for the other 99.5% of the population.

    • @CountScarlioni
      @CountScarlioni Рік тому

      I'm worried about the future of the USA in general. It seems determined to drive for some mutant future between The Handmaid's Tale and Cyberpunk.

  • @SnailSnail-lo4pm
    @SnailSnail-lo4pm Рік тому +21

    BREAKING NEWS: local clothes stores go out of business after mass theft of clothes hangers.

    • @PokemonRules333
      @PokemonRules333 Рік тому

      Yep making abortion illegal is only going to prevent safe abortions and many women are going to have problems with not being able to do the safe method

  • @Dingomush
    @Dingomush Рік тому +3

    Is the U.S.A.’s population so low that we have to resort to this?…..Are we needing to populate the desert now???

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Рік тому +1

      They're merely the 3rd most populous country in the world... Maybe they just want to reach the 1-billion milestone before the climate goes _too_ rowdy. :-|

    • @Dingomush
      @Dingomush Рік тому +1

      @@irrelevant_noob I could really see that cutting hard into the national I.Q. average……..

  • @texantourguide
    @texantourguide Рік тому +4

    They'll ban healthcare but not carcinogens, especially in food marketed towards kids.

    • @PokemonRules333
      @PokemonRules333 Рік тому +1

      Also corn syrup

    • @willj7381
      @willj7381 11 місяців тому

      @@PokemonRules333high fructose corn syrup* corn syrup is actually a very good source of energy

  • @hikaru9624
    @hikaru9624 Рік тому +4

    Love how yt has a little thing sourcing the NHS for me about abortion and what it is. It's stupid that some states or countries would want to remove a life saving drug.

    • @louisrobitaille5810
      @louisrobitaille5810 Рік тому

      When you think about it from the other pov, it's a life-ending drug. If you think that the foetus is a human being from the moment it's a single cell to the moment it leaves the woman's body, then birth control and abortion pills are murder drugs.

  • @michaelmccarthy4077
    @michaelmccarthy4077 Рік тому

    The courts should never ever weigh in on FDA approval. Their job is to interpret THE LAW.

  • @MinkSquared
    @MinkSquared Рік тому +1

    its not that people forgot about it, its just that we learnt that it factually doesnt matter what we find good or not.

  • @tracewallace23
    @tracewallace23 10 місяців тому

    Sadly, before our advances in science and healthcare, the two biggest killers of humans were issues with childbirth and oral infections.
    🤯

  • @theluckyredshirt1764
    @theluckyredshirt1764 Рік тому

    This video has truly highlighted EXACTLY what has gone wrong in the United States. It's not just about the right to a basic medical need should that situation arise, but also about the systematic removal of basic human rights. What does that line in the DOI say, again? Oh, right: "LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS." Those are all unalienable rights to the citizens of the U.S, and I see no attempt to maintain them, those rights that have been with us since the inception of the United States. If these are not being upheld, then we must all do our civic duty and stand up for those rights in whatever way we can, or else who knows what will be seen fit to be removed?

  • @danaililiev1404
    @danaililiev1404 Рік тому +2

    This entire debate stands on the point that the fetus is a human or a risk to health depending on what the mother decides.
    Also these examples are exceptions. There is no ban on abortion if it is to save the womans health. It is not even called abortion

    • @SonicGotNukedPvP
      @SonicGotNukedPvP Рік тому +2

      Woman shouldn’t be forced to go into septic shock when their water broke 18 weeks and there’s nothing that can be done. If you get cancer, it’s still a serious medical problem. Yet, it’s still an elective procedure because you get it scheduled to be removed. You shouldn’t have to wait until you’re in the emergency room on deaths door. That’s what an emergent procedure means.

    • @JohnM3665570
      @JohnM3665570 Рік тому +1

      But with these laws banning abortion, the doctors are afraid of giving this care to the women's health . They fear going to prison for helping.
      Many laws are even wanting to go after people who drive a woman to get an abortion. Many laws are even preventing women to travel to states where abortion is legal.

  • @authmal
    @authmal Рік тому +1

    They don't care about the possibility of death for these women. Misogyny is real, and an issue within the GOP.

  • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
    @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear Рік тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @roguedogx
    @roguedogx Рік тому

    2:41 that said, everyone suddenly have access to that kind of health care (i.e. instant surgery they can afford and have the ability to take time off work for) does sound nice.

  • @stevenrowlands7731
    @stevenrowlands7731 Рік тому

    As a brit it still baffles me that surgery is not free. Why does the right to life have to depend on your bank balance?

  • @deathlytree434
    @deathlytree434 Рік тому

    Love your content

  • @Ngboulch
    @Ngboulch Рік тому

    My question is: What stops a pharma company buying a corrupt judge to get fda approval overturned on a competitor's product?
    By banning a competitor's product, people would be pushed to use their own product.

  • @urielpolak9949
    @urielpolak9949 Рік тому +10

    Shamefull. An abortion should just be between a doctor and the pregnant woman

  • @alejandrovallejo4330
    @alejandrovallejo4330 Рік тому

    I’ve for the most part of my life been in favor of abortion, however I have always believed there should be some regulations because I think to be allowed to abort a 9 month baby is just as ridiculous as not allowing a woman to abort a 3 month clump of cells with no brain function whatsoever.
    But what you said about how restrictions are always more restrictive than it seems on the surface has made me think. I still think regulations should be in place, but that new perspective is something I will consider in the future.

  • @renardleblanc5556
    @renardleblanc5556 Рік тому

    Politicians legislating medicine they don't understand would be like legislating a tax code such that 2+2=3
    That's not how it works in theory, and that's not how it works in practice, and the legislation isn't going to fundamentally change the basic principals involved, no matter how much they would like it to.

  • @jmcsquared18
    @jmcsquared18 Рік тому +45

    Anyone who still registers republican in America at this point should be ashamed of themselves. There is simply no excuse for supporting that group at this point.

    • @SnailSnail-lo4pm
      @SnailSnail-lo4pm Рік тому

      It's not all about political party. I could easily say we support drone striking children, oh how dare we register as democrats, it's so barbaric!

    • @camwyn256
      @camwyn256 Рік тому +6

      Unless your a billionaire or mega-corporation

    • @nuc2726
      @nuc2726 Рік тому +2

      we just don't like baby murderers. is that a hard concept to understand? We think life starts at conception, and so ending the conception intentionally is murder in our eyes.

    • @ElectroNeutrino
      @ElectroNeutrino Рік тому +19

      @@nuc2726 The problem is that many of your crowd don't care about who gets harmed to get your way, e.g. the subject of this video.

    • @Titansdragon75
      @Titansdragon75 Рік тому +23

      ​@@nuc2726 It's cute you people pretend to care about life.

  • @clau4754
    @clau4754 Рік тому +1

    Since I'm not from America, can someone explain what you mean by under review. I'm expecting that a group of specialists looked things over to see if the drug is safe enough

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +1

      "Under review" typically means that a drug is going through controlled trials. The trials are different depending on the drug, but broadly speaking, the FDA has a fixed process for demonstrating the efficacy and safety of a drug. These trials usually occur in three different phases and a drug must successfully complete each phase before moving on to the next one. Here's a link, if you're really interested in the process:
      www.fda.gov/drugs/development-approval-process-drugs
      The trail "phases" I've mentioned are discussed in other terms in this article, which states:
      "Before a drug can be tested in people, the drug company or sponsor performs laboratory and animal tests to discover how the drug works and whether it's likely to be safe and work well in humans. Next, a series of tests in people is begun to determine whether the drug is safe when used to treat a disease and whether it provides a real health benefit."
      Phase I trials are typically the laboratory tests. Phase II trials are typically on animals (e.g., rats, etc.) that have similar biological mechanisms to humans. Finally, Phase III trials involve a controlled cohort of humans who volunteer to be part of the experiment for a particular drug.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Рік тому

      @@glennpearson9348 one slight nitpick about the "must successfully complete each phase before moving on to the next one": that's not really a requirement, merely a consequence of not wanting to waste resources on later-phase trials before being sure that the earlier ones cleared out okay. When the need is great enough (like it was about 2 years ago), the trials can be performed simultaneously.

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +1

      @@irrelevant_noob Agreed. I was describing the "usual" way most drugs get approved. I realize there is a waiver process to expedite review in emergency situations, but it appears the waiver process is what got the FDA in this jam in the first place.

  • @teddyfurstman1997
    @teddyfurstman1997 Рік тому +5

    Lawmakers don't understand science. I'm mad at this mess.

    • @jursamaj
      @jursamaj Рік тому

      Oh, many of them do. They just also have voters who will vote them out if they don't push this.

  • @purrlionpony9317
    @purrlionpony9317 Рік тому +2

    Some are trying to think that the mother wants to abortion for a prefect body. And I hate hearing this. I mean there are people like that. Yes but is it really a major thing I feel like they're want believe this as the only thing woman think about. The idea of giving birth is a sacrifice to one's body but it's one thing to sacrifice beauty but some people wouldn't to sacrifice when they aren't ready for it. I'm not for forced births. And this is what feel disgusting to me but yes if the child heart is weak I can't see a reason make the woman suffer after a miscarriage if the abortion pills are meant to get killed without doing harm to the mother then that's fine. I'm just one that wishes they could see more reason to understand why some abortions have to happen instead of forcing the mother to suffer consequence that never should have been given when its not their fault that a baby is in her. This in the case of rape. But those who are against abortion think that it's punishment for a child that never asked to be conceived. I don't think the mother would be think let's punish the child for no reason. I think it's more so this child feels like a punishment for me for being r*ped. Why should I try to keep it for it own sake. This being more or less the idea I'm thinking cuz why be force to endure more pain and suffering after dealing with pain and suffering from being r*ped. Sure some mothers are like to just think about putting it up for adoption. But that doesn't mean you have to make them do it. Encouraging the mother to give it up for adoption is fine. But never force someone to do it. If someone wants to abort a child for unreasonable reasons then there a reason to talk them out of it. But some of the stories I've heard on certain women get an abortion that they did it to punish the partner. I don't know how much of this is true but I really don't see a reason in that to just get rid of it like that. And the whole keeping there body beautiful seems unreasonable. I just don't think this is the majority of women. Celebrities have children all the time and they still look beautiful. So if these women who think it ruins their body then you don't understand how to deal with it and you just need to suckitup and just put it up for adoption and get a tummy tuck later. If you can't afford that then you should have used protection. But you can't keep the baby if it going to be that way. Just a thought for those kind of women. But a lot of others are if the man wants the child but the woman does that should have been one of your thoughts before committing to a relationship. It should be if you guys want children if no or not yet then use protection and you can stop when you do want children. But of course these only what I've heard about on what people think is happening and why they are against it. That and cuz the fetus is a life. And I get that but it takes those are really ready to make a sacrifice to saving that life. You can just save just because it is one. It should be if you the one who really be that one. And sometimes you can just give it up for adoption if you don't think it's the right thing to do to just getting rid of it. What I think. It's a choice to abort and it a choice to put it up for adoption. And you're right thinking that this whole trying to ban abortion is basically trying to put out your medical care for everyone to see and tell you what to do with your own body. That seems like something between you and your doctor. No one else.

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz Рік тому

      Wall of Text; DR

    • @purrlionpony9317
      @purrlionpony9317 Рік тому

      @@JohnDlugosz sorry if I over do it with my comments some time. Doing this stuff in smaller sections are kinda annoying for me. But I get some people need smaller parts. Sorry about that.

    • @pickle3114
      @pickle3114 Рік тому

      Your lover, family members, friend, or siblings if your really going to go through something important at the hospital.

  • @AnnoyingNewsletters
    @AnnoyingNewsletters Рік тому

    The only congressman who should have had any input on women's reproductive health, was Dr. Ron Paul, gynecologist.
    Leave the rest up to the congresswomen.

  • @redacted3074
    @redacted3074 Рік тому

    They arent incompetent, they know what they're doing. Dont you see? Their GOAL is to maximize human suffering.

  • @JohnSmith-ql8fg
    @JohnSmith-ql8fg Рік тому +1

    Out here droppin knowledge and this guy professes to be a stick... psh.

  • @brainwashedbyevidence948
    @brainwashedbyevidence948 Рік тому

    Pro choice over pro life, change my mind.

  • @user-vt5qg7hj1m
    @user-vt5qg7hj1m Рік тому

    Just a small correction, this wouldn't only affect women, but trans men and afab nonbinaries also!

  • @hexa1905
    @hexa1905 Рік тому +6

    They talk about "big pharma" with transition of kids (and i somewhat agree there is a problem), but this does heavy complicate and increase the cost of healthcare for a ton of women.

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 Рік тому +3

      Transition of Kids?
      Wanna eleborate?

    • @hexa1905
      @hexa1905 Рік тому

      @@Lamster66 gender transition.
      In some places, meds or even surgeries are legal for young minors.

    • @edh1970
      @edh1970 Рік тому +2

      ​@@hexa1905 where exactly?

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 Рік тому

      @@hexa1905
      That's what I thought!
      The question here isn't about the drugs, surgery or the transitioning. Its about helping those that genuinely have Gender dysphoria and singling out those that don't. Like being Gay or Straight its not a life choice you are what you are.
      So is the feeling that you are in the wrong body. It's curious that we don't all have the same view over cosmetic surgery.

    • @hexa1905
      @hexa1905 Рік тому

      No this is not just like being gay or straight, it imply a medical treatment.
      Surgeries as the effects of hormones therapy are not reversible.
      But gender and sexuality are things more fluid that most would admit and usualy change a bit of time
      Kids can not concent to anything serious.
      What minimum age would you suggest for breast implant ? For a vaginoplasty ?
      In my opinion around 18-21.

  • @CommanderCodyCc--gh8zh
    @CommanderCodyCc--gh8zh Рік тому +8

    It’s like banning chef’s knives for their stabbing capabilities

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Рік тому +5

      Banning appendicectomies because they leave scars?

    • @charlesbernier990
      @charlesbernier990 Рік тому +2

      congratulation on your point missing abilities.
      It is like banning cooking wares for their ingredients ''natural form'' altering effect.

    • @CommanderCodyCc--gh8zh
      @CommanderCodyCc--gh8zh Рік тому

      @@charlesbernier990 fair

    • @charlesbernier990
      @charlesbernier990 Рік тому +1

      @@CommanderCodyCc--gh8zh 👍we cool

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Рік тому +2

      @Imran Zakhaev you misspelled life-saving there...

  • @antonydandrea
    @antonydandrea Рік тому +1

    When you see the scan of your child at 5 weeks old with a little beating hesrt, it challenges your perspective on things

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Рік тому

      If I see a scan of a 5-week-old child with a beating heart, I wonder what condition necessitated putting a child into an MRI scanner five weeks *after that child was born,* because 5 weeks after fertilisation an embryo doesn't have a beating heart. Stop spreading theocratic fascist misinformation, you misogynistic liar.

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance Рік тому +5

      If you see a 5 week old zygote with a beating heart, something would be very wrong with that pregnancy.

    • @dutchik5107
      @dutchik5107 Рік тому +4

      Stop lying. At 5 weeks of pregnancy there is no "heartbeat" yet.
      And even when it comes in. Impressive if you saw a heart.. as the actual structure besides electrical activity is not there yet.

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance Рік тому

      @Imran Zakhaev
      The heart hasn't even truly begun to form at 5 weeks during pregnancy. It isn't fully formed until 12-16 weeks. It can't "beat" because it isn't there. Anyone who says it is... is lying to you.
      You numpty.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Рік тому +1

      @@Diviance ... or it's a ferret. They have 6-week gestation periods.
      Is that the issue?
      Did these "6 week" laws come in because the politicians think we're all ferrets?

  • @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm
    @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm Рік тому +1

    Defenders of slavery also used this same strategy.

    • @RoninTF2011
      @RoninTF2011 Рік тому +1

      Your point is?

    • @darthmaul216
      @darthmaul216 Рік тому

      What strategy?

    • @zenaku666
      @zenaku666 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@darthmaul216he bot believes there is a moral equivalence between slavery and abortion because certain arguments for slavery have a superficial resemblance to arguments for abortion. Specifically the idea it is up to the mothers/slave owners to decide for themselves if abortion/slavery is a moral good.
      What our bot doesn't consider is that the two things are different: one is a medical procedure that has saved lives and relates to a mass of cells incapable of living on its own. The other refers to actual humans with actual natural rights being forced into labor under the racist delusion they couldn't live on their own. While I used similar words to describe the two that was purposeful. Anyone should be able to see the two are fundamentally different.

  • @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm
    @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm Рік тому +1

    To imply that the issue is not abortion, but choice, is to say that what’s being chosen is irrelevant. That is clearly illogical given that all choices are not equal. Choosing whether to buy a new car is vastly different than choosing whether to produce child pornography, and the morality of those choices is not affected by the eventual decision. However, the pro-choice position is that abortion becomes acceptable simply by the act of choosing to do it.

    • @RoninTF2011
      @RoninTF2011 Рік тому +1

      So you choose to ignore the health and life concern of women?
      Do they not count?

    • @edh1970
      @edh1970 Рік тому +1

      abortion becomes acceptable when the person carrying the child chooses of their own will to abort. congratulations on figuring it out

    • @dutchik5107
      @dutchik5107 Рік тому

      The thing here is consent. Child pornography really fucks up a child. If you want to compare it to porn, see it as someone starting an only fans.
      Sure you may not agree with it. But it is not harming anyone.
      A fetus is not yet able to be harmed when abortions are done.. ESPECIALLY not with the abortion pill (as this can be done relatively fast and thus early. More invasive procedures take planning. The pill is only used at the very beginning) .
      As for harm to be done. There has to be like the ability to feel pain. When the pill is used. The nerves are not even yet connected to the brain. Thus cannot feel yet. That's how pain works.

    • @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm
      @MeghanBrowning-cy3tm Рік тому +1

      @@edh1970 Defenders of slavery also used this same strategy.

    • @edh1970
      @edh1970 Рік тому

      @@MeghanBrowning-cy3tm what strategy? abortion and enslaving a human being are not equivalent.

  • @deadheadguy458
    @deadheadguy458 Рік тому +2

    Beep

  • @narsplace
    @narsplace Рік тому +1

    Stick you do forget those who push the law believe that if a mother dies as a result of childbearing, that she had died doing the lord's work.

  • @XanTheDragon
    @XanTheDragon Рік тому

    make a religion that requires its members to have a ceremony sustaining or terminating a pregnancy for each one that occurs. oh, and it requires its members to prominently say "issue of skill" whenever someone tries to stop it but can't because it would violate religious freedom. ez clap.

  • @peasantm3984
    @peasantm3984 Рік тому

    The question is, do you support abortion, my friend?

    • @dorkangel1076
      @dorkangel1076 Рік тому +4

      *context needed. At what point in the pregnancy and in what circumstances?

    • @wtf_jokes9639
      @wtf_jokes9639 Рік тому +11

      I support not sticking my nose with what others do with their bodies, too bad conservatives don't care about personal freedom

    • @sebcw1204
      @sebcw1204 Рік тому +7

      i support government's absence in the decision.

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 Рік тому +2

      Clarify what you mean by support?
      Looking at some people i'd advocate abortion upto 2600 weeks

    • @salomaogomes7311
      @salomaogomes7311 Рік тому +2

      Yes, we do, as any sane person with a modicum of empathy should.

  • @immameme
    @immameme Рік тому

    I was at the internet and realized RoVWadeDramaImma1st on this video

  • @RoyalDart101
    @RoyalDart101 Рік тому +2

    Ya yes dumbness of both parties.

  • @RiseAgainstDisciple
    @RiseAgainstDisciple Рік тому +12

    My favorite murder supporting stick

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance Рік тому +1

      I like how you guys don't have a rational reason to ban abortion, so you just pretend it is murder and consider the argument won... when everyone with a brain is laughing at you.

    • @hikaru9624
      @hikaru9624 Рік тому +1

      What now?

    • @sadev101
      @sadev101 Рік тому +1

      that pill is administered withing a certain timeline. that timeline is ther because within that timeline the fetus not advanced enough to be a thinking feeling being yet.

  • @k.m.z.hardesty
    @k.m.z.hardesty Рік тому

    Stuck to debunking flat Earthers

    • @Davidutul
      @Davidutul Рік тому

      I think you meant "stick"

  • @mwwq1
    @mwwq1 Рік тому +1

    I hate that I have to say this but not all republicans are against abortion. Everyone in my family is republican and is for abortion and women’s rights and civil rights. I hate that me and my family are demonized for choosing one of the only two viable parties in the us.

    • @mr.goldfish1530
      @mr.goldfish1530 Рік тому

      There are zero viable parties in the US.

    • @salomaogomes7311
      @salomaogomes7311 Рік тому +1

      You should be demonized, considering you're still choosing to stand by the same side as rapists, gromers, and literal psycopathic fascist.
      Anyone still willing to bear the republican moniker derserves nothing more than complete and public humiliation.

    • @angrydoggy9170
      @angrydoggy9170 Рік тому +3

      I can see how that would bother you and I can definitely understand it. But voting the Republican Party into power will result in support for the anti abortion movement. Personally, I’m thinking the political system needs an overhaul.

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance Рік тому +3

      Buddy, if you personally support something but actively vote for the people who are banning it... then your preferences don't matter, your actions do.

    • @jperigo95
      @jperigo95 Рік тому

      @@angrydoggy9170 exactly this. the two party system has failed and has been failing for a very long time. as long as we continue to be restricted to two dumbass groups full of moronic clowns things will only ever get worse.

  • @hatoffnickel
    @hatoffnickel Рік тому

    It is amusing how no one seems to take notice that both sides are arguing for the same thing: life and liberty

    • @RoninTF2011
      @RoninTF2011 Рік тому +3

      No, one side is argueing for potential life at the cost of others....

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Рік тому +6

      I don't see how forcing a 10-year-old girl to die in childbirth or a married 30-year-old woman to die due to an ectopic pregnancy or a 20-year-old to drop out of university and become a stay-at-home mother to the children of some jackass on a sportsball scholarship who spiked her drink or a woman who's had a miscarriage to carry the corpse inside her until it rots and destroys her womb is "arguing for life and liberty."

    • @hatoffnickel
      @hatoffnickel Рік тому

      @@Sableagle that is understandable seeing how ideologically political the argument has become (antithetically to real truth seeking). Do you think that your understanding of life and liberty is perfectly grounded to claim in absolute certainty that the offense is on the "other side", or is it possible that you are missing something to enable you to understand with depth the points you bring up?

    • @moumdoh
      @moumdoh Рік тому +3

      I want to see the other side of the discussion. Where do they put life and liberty in banning healthcare ?

    • @dr00g35
      @dr00g35 Рік тому

      one is for and the other is CLEARLY against

  • @ForeShadow20
    @ForeShadow20 Рік тому +1

    Weren't you advocating the forced vaccinations and medical discrimination through covid mandates?

    • @mr.goldfish1530
      @mr.goldfish1530 Рік тому +8

      Abortion doesn't endanger the lives of everyone around you.

    • @salomaogomes7311
      @salomaogomes7311 Рік тому +7

      Having an abortion is and always shoukd be a personal choice.
      Getting vaccinated for a highly contagious and deadly disease shouldn't, since there's no logical reason not to and not doing so make you a literal walking public health risk.

  • @irtb4250
    @irtb4250 Рік тому +1

    I’m pro abortion but anti roe v. wade

  • @paulthompson9668
    @paulthompson9668 Рік тому

    Homicide (killing of the fetus) vs. Assault (nonconsensual application of force to the mother)
    This is the uncomfortable debate that we need to resolve first.

    • @angrydoggy9170
      @angrydoggy9170 Рік тому +3

      Why not lock up all pregnant women to make sure they get a healthy diet and prevent them from doing things that might harm the foetus? After all some sports and an unhealthy diet can be detrimental.

    • @darthmaul216
      @darthmaul216 Рік тому +10

      “Killing” a fetus is not homicide. There i resolved the debate

    • @RoninTF2011
      @RoninTF2011 Рік тому

      @@darthmaul216 Yeah, but the bible thumpers want to make it "homicide"

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Рік тому +3

      @@angrydoggy9170 Next step: re-impregnation to prevent menstruation. After all, menstruation can be detrimental.

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +1

      Wait, what was killed? A zygote? An embryo? A fetus? A baby? We need to be clear about this, and THAT is the uncomfortable debate.

  • @censors_starve
    @censors_starve Рік тому +2

    I like how he just argued against universal Healthcare. Part of the argument against universal Healthcare is keeping the government out of your health decisions.

    • @dranyam00mada
      @dranyam00mada Рік тому +10

      I don't think you really understand what he is talking about. When he says that he wants universal healthcare he is talking about funding for it so it's affordable to everyone I don't see why that stance would have them in your business since they would just be the ones paying the doctors.

    • @androgynygoat
      @androgynygoat Рік тому +7

      There is a large difference between funding, and guidance/regulations/treatment itself, silly comment to make

    • @censors_starve
      @censors_starve Рік тому

      @dranyam00mada it doesn't matter if that was his intent but the fact that he laid out part of the argument is all I was pointing out. All I was doing was pointing out that he was making the same argument for pro abortion that others make against universal Healthcare. So yes I did understand his point, but I can also use my brain to see how that argument could also be used for other things.

    • @censors_starve
      @censors_starve Рік тому

      @Pachimaniac in universal Healthcare your treatment can be denied and other treatments recommended that aren't what you and your doctor think is best. That treatment is decided by the government, whether or not it's a board of doctors working for the government doesn't matter, what does matter is that the government decides your treatment, not you and your doctor. Kinda like what prof stick was saying about politicians staying out of healthcare.

    • @wtf_jokes9639
      @wtf_jokes9639 Рік тому +1

      imagine having such late stage brain rot to the point where you can't understand that just because there is universal healthcare it doesn't mean you can't go to a private hospital if you so choose to do, or have private health insurance, but hey completely ignore this fact like every other fact imbeciles like you ignore. Don't answer with the stupid response of "wElL iF i'M noT GoiNG To Use IT ThEn WhY woUlD mY TaxEs PaY foR iT". I could make the same stupid argument regarding Military spending, Services for disabled people, public schools. but do you see me complaining about them? no because they're a public service just as much as universal health care is.

  • @chadb9270
    @chadb9270 Рік тому +2

    I am 100% on board with ending human life when they are inconvenient. You’re just not going to like my definition of inconvenient….

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 Рік тому +3

      We might, who did you have in mind?

  • @baarni
    @baarni Рік тому +1

    I don’t agree that abortion should be allowed for any woman who wants one. Population sustainability is already in a negative situation and allowing women to have an abortion just because they wanted to have fun and didn’t intend to get pregnant should not be a valid reason to have an abortion. If it is we need to be prepared to increase immigration to make up for the below sustainability threshold with regard to the birth rate…

    • @PokemonRules333
      @PokemonRules333 Рік тому +9

      We have billions of people in this world the human race isn’t going to die out any time soon

    • @STONKS_MemeMan
      @STONKS_MemeMan Рік тому +8

      Bro. You do realize that the population is growing extremely fast... We'll be fine

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption Рік тому +2

      Why? 1) Accidents happen, and since the same politicians pushing these bans are also pushing to restrict birth control, you can’t just chock it up to irresponsibility. 2) the same politicians are also actively resisting or working to roll back any support or aid for children and families - people can’t AFFORD to have kids, and 3) this is all academic anyway since you can actually put a stop to abortions, you can only put a stop to SAFE abortions. The only result of these policies will be that now, instead of only losing a viable fetus, we’ll just have a lot more cases where we lose the mom too, or totally destroy her ability to have a child in the future when she’s able to actually care for a child. If your worry is population decline, this will only make it much worse

    • @mr.goldfish1530
      @mr.goldfish1530 Рік тому +2

      Forcing people to have children is not a viable solution.

    • @bananewane1402
      @bananewane1402 Рік тому +1

      Increase immigration then.

  • @thehabit5904
    @thehabit5904 Рік тому +2

    Politics is not your thing man. Or else you would have realized roe v wade was unconstitutional.

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance Рік тому +12

      Roe v. Wade was completely constitutional.

    • @JohnM3665570
      @JohnM3665570 Рік тому +1

      Taking away rights is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court's decision took away women's rights.

    • @thehabit5904
      @thehabit5904 Рік тому

      @@Diviance what a great argument. Well let me get down to your level.
      You cant kill babies anymore.... nana nana boo boo

    • @mr.goldfish1530
      @mr.goldfish1530 Рік тому +4

      ​@@thehabit5904 It was a better argument than yours, buddy.

    • @darthmaul216
      @darthmaul216 Рік тому +5

      It was never unconstitutional bud. Facts don’t care about your feelings

  • @glenquagmire4340
    @glenquagmire4340 Рік тому +2

    Oh no. You can't kill babies. Such a tragedy.

    • @K-Lowe
      @K-Lowe Рік тому

      You know how ppl say "the world isint ready for communism" as an exuse to not establish communism? Let me flip this... I dont care if you think it's murder, it dosent matter... the world is WAY to fucked up to ban abortions...

    • @The_WhiteSilver
      @The_WhiteSilver Рік тому +15

      Did you even watch the video?

    • @carolinusTG
      @carolinusTG Рік тому +7

      Haha, your comments here are hilarious, no new fox videos out to watch, had to come to sticks channel for human interaction because you can't get any IRL?

    • @Eric_The_Cleric
      @Eric_The_Cleric Рік тому +9

      Ah yes, glen quagmire with a Minecraft Glen Quagmire profile picture. The pinnacle of political awareness making only the most cutting edge arguments for his case. Oh here he comes, arguing about how we should let women die because we're "killing babies."

    • @Eric_The_Cleric
      @Eric_The_Cleric Рік тому

      ​@Carolinus TG nah he hasn't been able to stomach how much less crazy right Fox News has gotten since Tucker Carlson was forced to resign.