IBMS ACCREDITATION for Biomedical Science | What is it? Do you need it? | Atousa

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  • @jack7195
    @jack7195 2 роки тому +17

    Just to clarify, you cannot become HCPC registered with an IBMS approved Biomedical Science degree alone. For HCPC registration, you will also need to complete the IBMS Certificate of Competence, which will take place within an IBMS accredited laboratory. Notably, these opportunities are limited and competitive, most people actually tend to work as MLA's to achieve this certificate by working their way up. Usually, the certificate takes about 12 months to complete. After you have been successful with your portfolio, you will then undergo practical and verbal assessments with an assessor from the IBMS, who will come into the laboratory you work in, to examine you. Overall, it is a lot of hoops to jump through. If becoming HCPC registered is your sole goal, then it is better to do a HCPC approved Healthcare Science degree instead, as these allow for HCPC registration upon graduation. However, it is important to be mindful that you do not learn the calibre of skills a Biomedical Science degree can offer, particularly towards private industries (E.g. Research). Healthcare Science is specific to, well... Healthcare, which is what the NHS is all about. Therefore, be sure of your preferences before commiting to either of these courses.

    • @jasmine9215
      @jasmine9215 2 роки тому

      I'm a bit confused towards the end, but your info was overall helpful! Thank you. My goal is to go into private research, and steer away from NHS eventually as obviously the pay isn't all too great. Would you suggest an IBMS degree? As it is focused more towards NHS?
      Also, if I was to lean towards Physician Associate (another interest), would IBMS accreditation matter? Thank youuu!

    • @jack7195
      @jack7195 2 роки тому

      @@jasmine9215 what was you confused about? :) If you want to work in the NHS or private research, an IBMS Accredited Biomedical Science degree would be best. If you solely want to work in research for example, then any Biomedical Science degree would be useful. If your sole goal is to work in the NHS, then I think a HCPC approved Healthcare Science degree is the way to go. Any Biomedical Science degree, regardless of IBMS accreditation or not, would be beneficial for Physician Associate applications. I can inform you about the implications on Physician Associate studies as well, if you wish?

    • @samanthabautista1655
      @samanthabautista1655 Рік тому

      Does this entails that even without IBMS portfolio i can still be registered in HCPC if my goal is just to work as a biomedical scientist that does not partake in any research related jobs?

    • @jack7195
      @jack7195 Рік тому

      @@samanthabautista1655 Unfortunately not, sorry. If you want to become a Biomedical Scientist within the NHS, you need to become HCPC registered and the only way to do that is by doing an IBMS accredited Biomedical Science degree and the IBMS Certificate of Competence. The benefit from doing a Biomedical Science degree, particularly one that is IBMS accredited, is that you can partake in more research-based jobs, whereas Healthcare Science is quite limited to the NHS.

    • @suchithramenon232
      @suchithramenon232 Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the clarification. I have a doubt regarding the hcpc registration. I have Bsc and Msc microbiology degree from India. Microbioligy comes under biomedical scientist category. So, do I want to do the IBMS competence, the traing for 1 year or can i register directly the current documents and information with HCPC to become a microbiologist.?

  • @kashfiaa6747
    @kashfiaa6747 3 роки тому +16

    I've watched literally all the videos of your channel by now and they were awfully helpful. Thank you ❤️

    • @atousa5752
      @atousa5752  3 роки тому +2

      aw that makes me very happy to hear! you are more than welcome and I wish you all the best!

  • @EZCrosser20
    @EZCrosser20 Рік тому +2

    you absolutely helped me in the interview stage to secure placement from uni to work on my ibms registration portfolio, thank you so much!!

  • @citykeys3495
    @citykeys3495 3 роки тому +7

    We have more Biomed students working
    As Band 2 in NHS some have Masters but can't find Biomedical Scinetist Job. IBMS and HCPC Accreditation is good but it should be done before Student Graduate. Nursing students Graduate as Nurses , Radiography students Graduate as Radiographers but Biomedical Science students end up doing 2yrs searching for trainee post and another 1 Yr registration. To summarise we need More Funding to trainee Biomedical scientist students

    • @sheshanfernando62
      @sheshanfernando62 2 роки тому +1

      Are you sure? 😭💔

    • @samihakhondoker2456
      @samihakhondoker2456 2 роки тому

      "it should be done before student graduate" and "we need more funding" true but not every student gets a chance for placement in every NHS labs around their region/area thats available due to limited number of students allowed in the lab to complete portfolio to become an actual biomedical scientist. I didn't get the chance so many other students who haven't had the chance in the first year to get in the healthcare science pathway which is basically the ability to get and complete placement for 1st, 2cnd and third year to complete the portfolio as they also study meaning they will have the certificate and the portoloio ready for jobs .Whereas for me I can apply next year but have to take a year out of uni between year 2/3 to complete it. And if I still can't get a chance then I think I should be allowed to have free training in the NHS labs to be a biomedical scientist as i didn't get an opportunity to do this in university due to high student competitiveness. Not everyone wants to do research.

  • @Cheesyslimefish
    @Cheesyslimefish 3 роки тому +6

    So with the IBMS guys you can go into a variety of career paths and all because the degree is aimed at nhs doesn’t mean you can’t go into research. Basically the nhs degree for biomed opens a lot more doors than the unaccredited. Mainly coz it’s broader with knowledge and even tho Russel group unis do not have IBMs doesn’t mean you should think about it. I know lots of people who have went to a Russel group uni and found it extremely hard getting a job. This is differs in some ways to the IBMS type degree. What I’m trying to say is doing the IBMS degree will still give you all the opportunities a non-accredited degree can. I would also just like to mention that the this women missed out Lancaster uni which is the highest ranking IBMS degree out all the IBMS other unis and Furthermore Lancaster uni is higher than nearly all Russel groups. It’s up to the same levels as York and they are both 6th in the uk. This is proven through the 2021 rankings of top unis in the uk. So just to clarify. The IBMS does offer a good range. Also people who aren’t on an accredited degree have to pay a lot of money for top up modules which are very expensive. Hope this helps

    • @mroosie7488
      @mroosie7488 3 роки тому

      The whole Russell group thing is a fallacy... Research output doesn't equate to good teaching. Believe me. Its a marketing ploy.

    • @Cheesyslimefish
      @Cheesyslimefish 3 роки тому

      @@mroosie7488 I don’t believe I was talking about research at all with linkings to the Russel group unis

    • @chlech2526
      @chlech2526 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for writing this 😊

  • @VeggieBond
    @VeggieBond 3 роки тому +4

    I have a Biochemistry degree from Kingston University. Just got my degree assessment from IBMS.... I have to do 7 top up modules!! Wish I did Biomedical science at Kingston as that was accredited.

    • @durgagurung9600
      @durgagurung9600 3 роки тому

      Hi can you give me some suggestion on section part 2 degree assessment form. Do I have to put all the modules description?

    • @RuS-xg7wt
      @RuS-xg7wt 2 роки тому

      What's the difference between taking biochem and biomed?

    • @VeggieBond
      @VeggieBond 2 роки тому

      @@durgagurung9600 Yes

    • @VeggieBond
      @VeggieBond 2 роки тому

      @@RuS-xg7wt Kingston has ibms accredited Biomed. Biochem is not accredited

  • @Biomeducated
    @Biomeducated 3 роки тому +3

    *Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!* I get the same question so often! And because the UK uses 'biomedical scientist' as synonym for 'medical lab technician or medical lab scientist', it makes it aaaaaaaall the more difficult to generalize! I can explain fairly from my own research on the net, but this video will now be the reference video that I will just link to if I get the question again :D Thanks, Atousa!
    10:11 and importantly, many options BESIDES Research too! Like you mention from 11:30 :D and like I try to explain in my own vids
    Cheers from Belgium!

    • @atousa5752
      @atousa5752  3 роки тому +3

      totally agree with you, it's so true! I hope everything is going well :)

    • @Biomeducated
      @Biomeducated 3 роки тому +2

      @@atousa5752 Hoping the same for you in med school!

  • @celegion9179
    @celegion9179 Рік тому

    This video was actually really helpful thank you !

  • @jobadebayoolaoti8664
    @jobadebayoolaoti8664 2 роки тому

    Thank you Atousa for this useful information.
    Stay blessed.

  • @tanhashafique5067
    @tanhashafique5067 2 роки тому

    Your information is incredibly helpful

  • @edmundyemoh136
    @edmundyemoh136 2 роки тому

    Golden piece of information

  • @mroosie7488
    @mroosie7488 Рік тому

    I know people who have non accredited biomedical science degrees who my lab are supporting through top up modules. Depending on the content of your degree you might only have to do one or two modules.

  • @keziahsoares2867
    @keziahsoares2867 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this video. It was very helpful :)

  • @roshansampang
    @roshansampang Рік тому

    Great video. Thank you .

  • @nishantpatel5085
    @nishantpatel5085 2 роки тому

    Very helpful video, thank you ✌️

  • @fahaldossa6243
    @fahaldossa6243 3 роки тому

    VERY VERY USELFUL VIDEO!!!!!

  • @tufayelmiah7969
    @tufayelmiah7969 3 роки тому

    Very useful! Thank you 😊

  • @mayomikunadesokan5653
    @mayomikunadesokan5653 2 роки тому +2

    thank you so much this video was really informative. If you want to do a degree after studying biomed like Dentistry for example, would you need an accredited degree?

  • @Noob___Noob
    @Noob___Noob 3 роки тому +2

    Is there a pathway to practice in UK for Biomedical Scientists trained in Canada?

  • @miracleezuruonye1228
    @miracleezuruonye1228 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video, it was indeed helpful, i have a question please, is there an IBMS t

  • @farnazjaberi7113
    @farnazjaberi7113 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for your information, I have completed my master biomedical course in LeedsBeckett university and I have 9 years work experience,Although I have work experience Should I take up to modules for accreditation IBMS?Or due to having work experience I do not need to take modules?

  • @miracleezuruonye1228
    @miracleezuruonye1228 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for the video, it was indeed helpful. I have a question please, is there an IBMS approved laboratory in Nigeria?

  • @clarkkent4683
    @clarkkent4683 2 роки тому +1

    If you did health sciences through the OU when and how should you get accreditation, assuming Cardiff is the nearest place you’ve mentioned. I have tried looking online but unless i am using the wrong search parameter I can’t see the path currently listed, thanks.

  • @nealc105
    @nealc105 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Atousa! I’m new to your channel, thank you for making this video. I just want to ask if it’s worth going to a University in the UK accredited with IBMS and HCPC before studying postgraduate medicine abroad the UK? (California)
    Many thanks.

  • @madhurbalvir
    @madhurbalvir 2 роки тому +1

    Hi mam. I got offer from Swansea University for biomedical sciences in clinic microbiology but I guess this university is not IBMS accredited. Is I will face difficulty for biomedical scientists job .

  • @mariaatkinson8862
    @mariaatkinson8862 Рік тому

    Northumbria unviersity also does this

  • @farihajawed7266
    @farihajawed7266 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much

  • @Nawyaravindran
    @Nawyaravindran 3 роки тому +1

    Hello I will be starting my biomedical programme next week . The 3rd year of the degree is solely accredited by a university which is ibms accredited... is it acceptable ?

  • @hlomphoprincess3573
    @hlomphoprincess3573 2 роки тому +1

    can you go on to study graduate medicine with a non-accredited Biomed degree?

    • @cbscboys8784
      @cbscboys8784 2 роки тому

      Yes you can. IBMS accreditation is only required if your looking to work in a nhs lab as a biomedical scientist straight after graduation. You don’t need accrediting for graduate entry as long as you got a good classification honours degree

  • @trushnamangukiya8337
    @trushnamangukiya8337 6 місяців тому

    Hello, Can you please guide me on how to contact IBMS for degree accreditation as my degrees are outside of the UK hence, I want to know how many modules I might need to do for HCPC. Thank you,

  • @abrarhussain692
    @abrarhussain692 3 роки тому

    Fine and good

  • @scientist1239
    @scientist1239 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks watched this again. How’s medicine going for you ? Enjoying its ? I work at the Queen Elizabeth hospital as a biomedical scientist

    • @atousa5752
      @atousa5752  3 роки тому

      Aw really? how are you finding working there at the moment? yes we are very close! medicine has been a blast so far this year, a number of changes have been made due to covid, but all in all it's been great :) I hope you are well too

    • @scientist1239
      @scientist1239 3 роки тому

      It’s going ok I guess but really uncomfortable with wearing a mask all the time lol especially when I wear specs too. I’m glad your enjoying it. It’s a very pretty campus and the surrounding area is lovely so I’m sure you will enjoy it. Some of the consultants I work with they also lecture at the medical school. Anyways It was lovely watching your videos. You look amazing. Take care and stay safe .

    • @dunnowhat4910
      @dunnowhat4910 3 роки тому

      @@scientist1239 hi,so sorry to bother you, but may I ask whether you took a PHD to have this kind of job in a hospital? or is a bachelor's enough? because i'm still deciding what degree i want to take- engineering or medical science & i'd love to know whether having that type of job would require an extra 3-4 years of studying >.

    • @scientist1239
      @scientist1239 3 роки тому

      @@dunnowhat4910 a bsc is enough. But you will have to get a training contract to become HCPC registered. Sorry what’s your name ?

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому

      @@scientist1239heyyy what is training contact u meant? Do we get jobs in tier 2 if we pass out from ibms accredited university or is it necessary to have bsc get registered in hcpc? Please explain, would be very helpful😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

  • @h.a.a4009
    @h.a.a4009 3 роки тому

    Great video as always👍
    Would you please make a video about what other options are for further education such as IBMS Specialist Portfolio and whether it’s equivalent to master level? And about Clinical Scientist x

    • @atousa5752
      @atousa5752  3 роки тому

      Sure, I have added this to my list of videos to make! :)

  • @geesolar1282
    @geesolar1282 3 роки тому

    good idea

  • @HrugvediPatil-ds5cm
    @HrugvediPatil-ds5cm 10 місяців тому

    Hello
    Can anyone tell me how to check if my course is ibms accredited?
    I am doing bsc hons. Spec.Biomedical biology at laurentian University in Canada

  • @Somepaws
    @Somepaws Рік тому

    Can i work un nhs with an ibms accredited master degree n my degree is in zoology

  • @amitmyfavouritedalvi5425
    @amitmyfavouritedalvi5425 3 роки тому

    Hello Sir I have competed my CMLT in 2003 and I started working since 2003 as Laboratory Technician and than have started my BMLT in 2014 to 2016 with Arunchal pradesh University and still am working 2015 onwords in Oman as Laboratory Technician is there any problem with my HCPC registration please advice me wht need to do is that valid my education if i need to show like that way.I did my BMLT in regular mode but the same time am working in Oman is that work but i attend exam and passed

  • @AnubisXYZ
    @AnubisXYZ 3 роки тому +1

    So I can apply for a HCPC license if my course is IBMS accredited?

    • @marthaharmon3664
      @marthaharmon3664 3 роки тому +1

      i think if your course is accredited it is automatically HCPC registered

  • @harshpatel8617
    @harshpatel8617 3 роки тому +1

    What about kingston university is it ibms recognized

  • @scientist1239
    @scientist1239 3 роки тому

    Not far from Birmingham uni

  • @kiwif7914
    @kiwif7914 3 роки тому +1

    so is a sandwich course synonymous to an accredited biomedical science course? so does that mean that an accredited course would mean that ur uni automatically registers u with an hcpc license?

    • @chlech2526
      @chlech2526 3 роки тому

      If you check the university website they usually say if the help with the process of getting accredited (e.g help with portfolio). Some universities say on their website that they don’t e.g university of Solent tell you do the registration after graduation. If in doubt you could always message the uni and ask.
      I hope this helps

  • @nabilamashnoon7092
    @nabilamashnoon7092 Рік тому

    Hello Atousa,
    I have done my BSc in Biochemistry and Biotechnology from Bangladesh, done my MSc in Genomic Medicine from University of Birmingham UK, and currently working as a Healthcare Science Associate (Band 3) in NHS. In order to get HCPC registration for a Biomedical Scientist, do I need to take any further degrees? or can I just send my degree transcripts and certificates to IBMS to check whether I am eligible for the registration already?
    Reply

  • @tharashidrock
    @tharashidrock Рік тому

    Hello mam , I’m a graduate in microbiology from India, how can I get IBMS certificate of Achievement Part 1 or 2 . It will be helpful if you can get me some information about this.

  • @aswathimani
    @aswathimani 2 роки тому

    Hello I'm from India. I did my b. Sc microbiology n m. Sc biotechnology. I'm planning to do m. Sc biomedical science(medical micro) from the uk. Can I work as a biomedical scientist in any private hospital in the uk with hcpc n ibms accreditation?

  • @makminzz
    @makminzz 5 місяців тому

    Is it easy to get your course IBMS accredited if you did your course in a Russell university?

    • @xyzuz1
      @xyzuz1 3 місяці тому

      You can’t ‘get’ your degree accredited. Only a few universities in the UK are accredited by the institute of biomedical science. Not all of them are russel group. Russel group means that it is research intensive and thats it - nothing more. If you go to an unaccreddited university just because you want a russel group, you will have to do extra years and extra modules after graduating in order to be accredited by the Institute of biomedical science and actually become a BMS. There are hundreds and thousands of qualified biomedical scientists in the uk and as long as your degree is accreddited it doesnt matter what uni you go to as the degree from the uni is heavily assessed and regulated by the INSTITUTE OF BIOMEDICAL SCIENCE. For example, my friends who went to manchester university studied there which is russel group but it is not accredited by the Institute of biomedical science as it is a research uni only so now they are struggling to find a job because their degree is not accredited nor accepted by many health professions in the UK. If they want to actually become a BMS, they HAVE to do top up modules and extra coursees or else they will not progress. Or, they can just do research. It is a very important topic lots of people dont even know about this.

  • @muhammadubaid2864
    @muhammadubaid2864 Рік тому

    i hope you are doing well, i have completed my graduation in Bachelor of science in medical laboratory technology from pakistan.and i have applied for Biomedical scientist Hcpc registration through a new form.i upload the course content of graduation.verification email has been sent to relative organization .please gauide me for further process.

  • @samerbereh2824
    @samerbereh2824 2 роки тому

    Hi
    Just a quick question, Can I work in research if I graduate from IBMS accredited course, I would be grateful if you could help me. Thanks

  • @pruhj3062
    @pruhj3062 3 роки тому

    What's the difference between biomedical scientist and clinical scientist (the NHS STP title)?

    • @mroosie7488
      @mroosie7488 3 роки тому +1

      A clinical scientist is more involved with the interpretation of laboratory results and will have much more of a picture of the patient case. A biomedical scientist will carry out the tests, implement the quality control and report the findings. A clinical scientist is almost a bridge between the lab and the clinician and can give clinical advice. A clinical scientist will typically spend much less time in the lab than a BMS. Both routes require HCPC registration, but the clinical scientist will require an MSc obtained from an STP program. Biomedical Scientists can become clinical scientists through an equivalence route following successful completion of their Specialist diploma using their substantial experience. They can then work towards obtaining The FRCP to become consultant clinical scientists and are trained to the same level as doctors, but they don’t treat patients like medics.

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому +1

      If study master microbiology what job can I get?

  • @amyhawkins6936
    @amyhawkins6936 3 роки тому

    Hi Atousa, thank you for all your videos, they're great and have helped me decide which degree to apply for. The careers you spoke about being able to get with a non accredited degree, are these jobs you can also get with an accredited degree as some accredited degrees don't cover as wide a variety of modules as some of the non accredited degrees? thank you :)

    • @atousa5752
      @atousa5752  3 роки тому +1

      I am so glad to hear that! :) yes you can also get those jobs with accredited courses but as you said, the main differences are the variety of modules - but that won't necessarily stop you being able to apply for the same roles! good luck :)

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому

      Are u in uk, which course u took??????????

    • @amyhawkins6936
      @amyhawkins6936 2 роки тому

      @@nature1164 I took biomedical science at Portsmouth university. The degree so for has been great. And going for an accredited degree was a good choice for me for future prospective jobs I'm looking into.

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому

      @@amyhawkins6936 hi dear, do u have part time jobs there? Will you get placement from university after studies? Is experience must to get jobs in nhs?

    • @amyhawkins6936
      @amyhawkins6936 2 роки тому

      @@nature1164 I have a part time job, just a few hours a week I'm finding is a good balance so I have enough study time. From what I've researched, to get a job as a biomedical scientist in the NHS you need to have completed a lab portfolio in and IBMS approved lab (I have the opportunity to do this through a year work placement during my degree but I'm pretty sure it can be done after a degree). On the IBMS website they explain what experiences/ degree/ qualifications are needed to become HCPC registered (which is the registration you need to work in the NHS as a biomedical scientist). Hope this helps and could point you in the right direction :)

  • @ushamaran3630
    @ushamaran3630 3 роки тому

    Hi I'm going to pursue MS molecular microbiology in the UK,can I also apply or is it only for biomedical sciences? I really want to work in NHS and how to get one and do NHS sponsor international students ? I'm sorry it's lot of questions I d love to get your reply love 💕

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому

      Hi which course you took, are u in uk now?????

  • @ll.online4438
    @ll.online4438 3 роки тому

    Can you complete your registration training portfolio while on a placement year on a non accredited course

    • @atousa5752
      @atousa5752  3 роки тому

      I believe you can yes, but I would contact the IBMS and explain your situation just so you get a 100% correct answer :) good luck!

    • @ll.online4438
      @ll.online4438 3 роки тому

      @@atousa5752 Thank you

  • @UsmanAli-iu6xi
    @UsmanAli-iu6xi 3 роки тому

    So, only accredited Biomedical Science degree either master or bachelor would be enough for HCPC registration without completing training portfolio?

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому +1

      Do we need to have bsc to be hcpc registration as my degree is from India, or studying from ibms accredited uk university do we get job in nhs or chances for tier 2.pls reply😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😔😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞

    • @UsmanAli-iu6xi
      @UsmanAli-iu6xi 2 роки тому

      @@nature1164 yes, you can but start up positions

    • @nature1164
      @nature1164 2 роки тому

      @@UsmanAli-iu6xi sorry sir, I didn't understand.

  • @ienmattroigee1037
    @ienmattroigee1037 3 роки тому

    like

  • @nature1164
    @nature1164 2 роки тому

    Is microbiology is better course to get tier2 after studies or which course is helpful after bsc medical microbiology?pls reply😔😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😞😞😞😒