National News! What could have they Hit? The Michipicoten Dep Duluth May 18. Last time in Duluth

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  • Pictures of the arrival here:
    / duluthshipphotography
    About this incident and the actual video visit:
    Not sure any of the info in the news makes sense! Wait for the Conspiracy theories... they claim the vessel hit "something" under water SW of Isle Royal, if you watch my video, I included their "track" from Two Harbors. They appear to make that turn to Thunder Bay as they are passing Grand Marias. As far as I am aware of there is not much out in that part of the lake to hit. Maybe a Submarine? (kidding). My guess is either the hull cracked or they bumped the dock departing and broke a seam?
    Time will tell, they made it safely, no lives lost!
    About this Visit:
    The Michipicoten arrived Duluth May 18 at 00:58 in the morning, arriving to load iron ore at the CN dock. Ironically, this was their 1st visit to Duluth to load ore! They pulled into the CN dock at 04:07 and began loading the ore. 12.4 hours later they finished loading and departed CN. They pulled out of Duluth at 17:19 after spending 16.4 hours in port. Heading to the Soo to deliver the ore.
    Info on the Michipicoten:
    LENGTH 698’
    BEAM 70’00”
    DEPTH 37’00”
    MIDSUMMER DRAFT 26’06”
    UNLOADING BOOM LENGTH 250’
    UNLOAD RATE 4,800 NT/HR
    CAPACITY 22,000 tons
    CUBIC CAPACITY 544,870
    OPERATING SPEED 13.8 knots
    AVERAGE CREW ON BOARD 17-18
    From MPR News:
    One-half of crew evacuated from Lake Superior freighter for safety reasons
    One-half of the 22-person crew of the Michipicoten, a 689-foot freighter traveling on Lake Superior, have left the boat for safety. The vessel is now headed to a nearby port, U.S. Coast Guard officials say.
    The Michipicoten was filled with taconite when it began to take on water on Saturday after possibly colliding with something underwater.
    “It’s a rapidly evolving situation so for safety concerns they started to remove the crew members from the vessel,” said Omar Faba of the U.S. Coast Guard.
    Another bulk carrier, the Edwin H. Gott, is currently riding alongside the Michipicoten. The U.S. Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and the National Park Service are also involved.

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  • @merryhunt9153
    @merryhunt9153 3 місяці тому +95

    This isn't getting much media coverage because most newcasters are afraid to try and say Michipicoten.

    • @williambarry8015
      @williambarry8015 3 місяці тому +3

      I pronounced it coaten at first.

    • @chrismack5908
      @chrismack5908 3 місяці тому +1

      Read about this in NorCal. Glad it did not sink.

    • @liljrockbunny
      @liljrockbunny 3 місяці тому +2

      I had to watch a video how to pronounce it. But yeah, I tried several times before resorting to it.

    • @leonardcollings7389
      @leonardcollings7389 3 місяці тому +4

      michipi-coten Ojibway for big bluffs.

    • @ffemtx4
      @ffemtx4 3 місяці тому +2

      Local news in the U.P. (TV6) had a "non" local, up & coming, news anchor filling in this weekend (June 8th) and he totally MASSACRED the name! Something like "Michimariacopia", or something like it. LMAO!
      I've seen this boat MANY times at the Upper Harbor in Marquette where they take-on iron ore pellets. One cannot appreciate the size of these things unless you're right next to them!

  • @carolewoolley7017
    @carolewoolley7017 3 місяці тому +23

    As an old person myself, there get to be a number of weak points, especially if not repaired regularly. I love the Michipicoten. The elderly lakers are such a attractive design with their axe bow and forward pilot house. Also her name just rolls off the tongue. Hope whatever happened is fixable. Many of us with decades of service and a life well spent are unfortunately reaching our expiration date. Like they say, getting old is. not for whimps! Bless you Lady Michipoten and hopefully many years to come.❤
    .

    • @ksw8415
      @ksw8415 3 місяці тому +1

      Aint that the truth!

  • @amywright2243
    @amywright2243 3 місяці тому +21

    I'm always nervous for the crews of the ships. Grateful no one was injured. Thanks for plain information, Paul.

  • @user-AZ-phil
    @user-AZ-phil 3 місяці тому +29

    She's such a graceful old laker. I won't try to speculate till she's been inspected, but the good thing about it is with GPS navigation, they know exactly where it happened, and the USCG is already checking to see what might be in the area. It won't be long before the cause is determined.

  • @lynnsenger9950
    @lynnsenger9950 3 місяці тому +59

    Glad they made it to port safely. And, kudos to the Gott for helping a fellow Laker.

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому +11

      Way big indeed! On that!!

    • @blackmoom
      @blackmoom 3 місяці тому +8

      Absolutely! Big Edwin 👍

    • @blackmoom
      @blackmoom 3 місяці тому +7

      Your theory makes perfect sense. In that area of the Lake it would seem there's nothing to hit (?) Just glad she made it to Port safely and nobody was hurt.

  • @daviddunn5264
    @daviddunn5264 3 місяці тому +12

    I'm glad that she made it to port, and the crew is safe! Thanks for the update, and the actual track was great information that you didn't see on the "news".

  • @greathornedowl3644
    @greathornedowl3644 3 місяці тому +16

    Glad to hear the crew and the boat are safe. BRAVO to all those who assisted. Hopefully something minor

  • @bettygilmore611
    @bettygilmore611 3 місяці тому +6

    I have been watching these videos for about 3 years amd I feel personnaly invested in a story like this. 😢 glad it has gotten to port ok. Crew safe a a fellow ship watching out for her and the crew. Hope to see her going under that lift bridge repair done properly and safe crew on board.

  • @bevpearson8268
    @bevpearson8268 3 місяці тому +43

    Wow! A reminder of just how dangerous a job those lads have!!

  • @frankpeck1448
    @frankpeck1448 3 місяці тому +12

    Thank you, Paul...appreciate all you do.⚘️🇺🇸

  • @scottburns2600
    @scottburns2600 3 місяці тому +59

    Deep water with nothing in the vicinity to collide with. I'm wondering if some sort of structural failure occurred

    • @RandomDudeOne
      @RandomDudeOne 3 місяці тому +2

      yip

    • @Bad-Karma
      @Bad-Karma 3 місяці тому +19

      Early reports says Stacy Abrams was last seen basking in the waters of lake Superior.

    • @CynthiaWord-iq7in
      @CynthiaWord-iq7in 3 місяці тому +1

      Like a seam opening ...from some piece of equip that heated it?

    • @propdoctor21564
      @propdoctor21564 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly what I suspect

    • @NormHotty-zv2iw
      @NormHotty-zv2iw 3 місяці тому

      Probably terrorist attack by a foreign Nation or rival corporation

  • @db4239
    @db4239 3 місяці тому +37

    I sailed for Interlake 25 years. Following heavy rains in Minnesota huge trees would slide into Lake Superior and become adrift. We saw them floating all over the Lake. There once was a slide at Taconite Harbor that fouled the Lake for months. I believe Michi hit one of these trees, just right and ruptured one of her ballast tanks.

    • @sturmovik1274
      @sturmovik1274 3 місяці тому +13

      We have gotten a decent amount of rain here in MN recently. At least one good storm a week for the last month down here in Minneapolis/St Paul, and the North Shore has gotten its share. I was up there at Gooseberry Falls State Park, between Duluth and Two Harbors, a few weeks ago and a normally sedate river was screaming like I've never seen it before.

    • @darrengladstone3159
      @darrengladstone3159 3 місяці тому +2

      They certainly had big rains for several weeks in that area. Hopefully it was a tree and not a poor watch hitting a pleasure craft. Pretty deep there.

  • @SteveMikre44
    @SteveMikre44 3 місяці тому +2

    I watched a video yesterday suggesting the Michipicoten might have suffered hull failure. Thank goodness they were able to bring her in and nobody was hurt...🙏⚓

  • @nickelguy88-rt1nx
    @nickelguy88-rt1nx 3 місяці тому +15

    Great video! Thank you for the clip at the end of their travels. I wonder what they hit.

  • @danielmorris3687
    @danielmorris3687 3 місяці тому +12

    I'm happy all crew are safe but I gotta say I get a bit nervous when I hear of any adverse incident involving Lower Lakes Towing, and not only because they are all registered out of my home port. MIssissagi gone for scrap, Cuyahoga on fire twice within a few months and fate currently unknown as far as I can discern and now Michipicoten with structural damage that hopefully is financially feasible to repair. LLT has been keeping a nice group of old school freighters employed and as of this moment they are down to just Saginaw working the Lakes. I'm not jumping to any conclusions and am hoping for the best of outcomes, as I hope we all are. 🤞🍁

    • @gregdavis7204
      @gregdavis7204 3 місяці тому +3

      Just say it, they are cheap!! Profit is what matters! The whole fleet looks rough!

    • @danielmorris3687
      @danielmorris3687 3 місяці тому +2

      @@gregdavis7204 Yes they look rough but Lower Lakes has been extending their working life when other fleets were going to scrap them. And remember most Canadian freighters navigate way more locks more frequently than American fleets. 8 sets to get through the Welland canal and another 7 if they head downbound to Montreal. It takes it's toll.

    • @tuxedotservo
      @tuxedotservo 3 місяці тому

      @@gregdavis7204 large swatch of the Algoma fleet on line 1 😉

    • @gregdavis7204
      @gregdavis7204 3 місяці тому

      @@tuxedotservo no ablaa!

    • @gregdavis7204
      @gregdavis7204 3 місяці тому +1

      @@tuxedotservo I said nothing about algoma. Im exercising my 5th amendment on grounds it may inseminate me!🤣

  • @NoewerrATall
    @NoewerrATall 3 місяці тому +2

    I was so happy to see that they made it to Thunder Bay! Hopefully she is repairable, and will be gracing the Duluth Ship Canal again soon.

  • @XmalD73
    @XmalD73 3 місяці тому

    Thank goodness the incident happened in calm waters with many other boats around. Glad everyone is safe and watching for more news on this great old ship

  • @tomtribby2309
    @tomtribby2309 3 місяці тому +22

    Wow her ribs are really showing on the forward section of her portside.

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому +4

      Not sure, or structural failure?

    • @carpetguy69
      @carpetguy69 3 місяці тому

      I understand that it is called oil canning, and is completely normal. That was discussed on the battleship New Jersey page.

    • @geraldlohrisch2656
      @geraldlohrisch2656 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. I wonder if that is related to this event. It would take a lot of force to do that.

    • @CanadianTexaninLiguria
      @CanadianTexaninLiguria 3 місяці тому +10

      This is normal and comes from sliding into the locks - same on all lakers

    • @robertwazniak9495
      @robertwazniak9495 3 місяці тому +2

      @@CanadianTexaninLiguriamore likely from dealing with ice on the Great Lakes

  • @realityjunky
    @realityjunky 3 місяці тому

    I've been offline for a while now but I just read about this on CNN. I immediately closed that out and came here, knowing I'd get better information. Thank you for this vid Paul and keep us posted.

  • @tuxedotservo
    @tuxedotservo 3 місяці тому +7

    Large tree trunk, maybe? I know when I used to cross to Isle Royale from the Keweenaw, that was 1st and foremost the thing we kept an eye out for. Some of those are full sized trees, mostly submerged. Older vessel/steel, might not take all that hard a knock to crack.

  • @markenda1
    @markenda1 3 місяці тому +7

    Is it possible she could have struck a partially waterlogged and submerged tree? I would imagine there are a number of rivers that feed in, so that could be a possibility.

    • @sturmovik1274
      @sturmovik1274 3 місяці тому +2

      Another comment from someone who sailed 25 years for Interlake said that heavy rains in Minnesota (and we've had a decent amount for the last month) would wash big trees into the lake to become submerged logs. He thought she might have hit one of them just right.
      And, yes, I was up at the mouth of one of those rivers a few weeks ago and it was screaming like I've never seen it.

    • @CanadianTexaninLiguria
      @CanadianTexaninLiguria 3 місяці тому +2

      I sailed on the lakes for 15+ years, tree will just bounce off

  • @nerdgarage
    @nerdgarage 3 місяці тому +8

    The location where they turned is hundred of feet deep. However if you look at navigation charts there are 2 weather bouys near that location. One belongs to NOAA, the other im guessing from the labeling is perhaps from University of Minnesota. --- Looking closer at their track on AIS records their track comes very very close to the charted locations of those bouys. Anyone taking bets ?

    • @sturmovik1274
      @sturmovik1274 3 місяці тому +3

      Another comment from someone who sailed 25 years for Interlake said that heavy rains in Minnesota (and we've had a decent amount for the last month) would wash big trees into the lake to become submerged logs. He thought she might have hit one of them just right.

    • @tuxedotservo
      @tuxedotservo 3 місяці тому

      @@sturmovik1274 a submerged tree swept into the lake by the weather is kind of where I'm leaning at the moment.

  • @monkeyboy4746
    @monkeyboy4746 3 місяці тому +17

    1952, older than me, and I'm old.

    • @snakeman48
      @snakeman48 3 місяці тому +2

      I'm older than that ship

  • @noelkelly3223
    @noelkelly3223 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank god they are all safe 🙏

  • @riobird6643
    @riobird6643 3 місяці тому +9

    nice coverage Paul

  • @robertboyd1513
    @robertboyd1513 3 місяці тому +11

    Chinese sub sneaking around? We already had spy balloon.

    • @patriciasutton8655
      @patriciasutton8655 3 місяці тому +4

      Hard not to go there. Nothing surprises me anymore.

    • @richm3528
      @richm3528 3 місяці тому

      Wvhat do you think the balloon was doing in the 1st place.....
      Gathering&transferring data from the spy sub back to china,Russia, north Korea, the Iranians.....who knows nowdays....

    • @LokiOdinson-fz8ps
      @LokiOdinson-fz8ps 3 місяці тому

      Just exactly did your mythical sub get through the St Lawrence seaway, Welland canal and Soo Locks without anyone seeing it Ricky Redneck???????

    • @LokiOdinson-fz8ps
      @LokiOdinson-fz8ps 3 місяці тому

      ​@@patriciasutton8655ok Roberta Redneck

  • @va3xj
    @va3xj 3 місяці тому +5

    She’s 72 years old. I’m thinking metal fatigue

  • @TOTALCAMARO
    @TOTALCAMARO 3 місяці тому

    I’m so grateful that the crew and ship made it to Thunder Bay. I was up in Duluth with my son and his wife touring the William Irvin when we heard about the incident.

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому +1

      Indeed, it was a bit of a nail biter not really knowing what was going on.

    • @TOTALCAMARO
      @TOTALCAMARO 3 місяці тому

      @@PaulScinocca I was shocked

  • @Cmon-Man
    @Cmon-Man 3 місяці тому +3

    I hope they are up to date on their Extended Warranty. Whew!

  • @bobcaygeon975
    @bobcaygeon975 3 місяці тому +3

    the little kids are yelling honk the horn! and the captain responded.

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому

      The vessels and the bridge always acknowledge with a master salute on the horns...1, Long and 2, Short'...

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 3 місяці тому +4

    At 4:59 your video links cover your text. Move them up a bit.

  • @highrx
    @highrx 3 місяці тому +1

    Imagine trying to write a song with the word “Michipicoten” in it? I’m sure glad there was no loss of life too need to write such a song.

  • @treeandaturd
    @treeandaturd 3 місяці тому +10

    nice work

  • @mcvet57103
    @mcvet57103 3 місяці тому +3

    That's dock damage from either bouncing off the dock while docking, or being pushed into the dock to hard.

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому

      Not uncommon at all. Better to have some give, than none at all and be rigid like the hull of the Titanic. Deck plate is only an inch thick, and those ships take a beating up against the wharf, docks, piers, concrete dolphins. Not all loading docks are articulating. Many of the old stationary chute docks are still in use, in this case the ships are heaved up against and winched back and forth along the dock over and over again using the deck machinery to partially load measurable amounts of the commodity being loaded safely, watchfully and evenly with a constant eye on the hull strain gauges... for and as has happened throughout history, placing too much of a load differential along the ships keel can break her back.
      Then you have the Pilot boat, the Grub boat and Mailboat all banging up alongside the the shipside all season long, over 72 sailing seasons when ships crew board, disembark, or grub, goods, parts and mail and packages being are delivered, all while underway in all kinds of weather, and then making your way through the locks, where sometimes the shipsides rub and scrape along the charred black, sacraficial wood planking that line the lock walls and they get so hot that black smoke actually rolls and then rises up off of them.
      Then its onward to cutting through brash ice, ice floes and pack ice or being stuck in ice for 3 days to a week, with the engines set at 1/3 forward as you slowly try to make headway along while ice compresses against the hull and you await a U.S. or Canadian Ice Cutter or Tug to come and cut you out, and where a day's progress is sometimes measured in inches to feet, and so it goes, from spring fit out, all through the summer sailing season onto and all through the winter season until the end of season lay up.

    • @mikeluly6652
      @mikeluly6652 3 місяці тому

      This is one of the busiest vessels on the lakes as far as dock frequency. It runs a lot from Duluth to the Soo and back, usually in a 72 hour timeframe. It's a 72 year old boat that has inspections every 5 years. I don't know when it had its last but I can tell you the USCG and inspectors would find this and it wouldn't sail until repaired. But again, the frequency of docking along with an old hull that might have been compromised is my take on it. Those officers know exactly where those buoy's are. Only if one of them went AWOL would that be a possibility. Another issue is that she was running 9 knots or so in ok weather. She's a pretty quick boat that generally runs in the 13+ knots up and down the lake. I think as they were going down they realized there was a problem, slowed down and turned.on the pumps. Very glad they made safety and the men are ok.

  • @janiestege4010
    @janiestege4010 3 місяці тому

    From our news reports here in Ontario the ship Michipicoten did not hit anything but her hull has a large ripe in her. She is moored in thunder Bay. Crew are all safe. They heard a loud crack in her hull, which caused her to take on water. Not sure if she will be repaired or not. Shame for all 😢. I think seeing her leave Duluth was the last time I will ever see her on our Great Lakes. 😢

  • @christisgod3354
    @christisgod3354 3 місяці тому +1

    Paul, what are the latest rumors that you are hearing?

  • @jamesnelson6980
    @jamesnelson6980 3 місяці тому +10

    I hope they have a low deductible!

  • @jameskiehm546
    @jameskiehm546 3 місяці тому

    Paul, I would be interested in how the Lakers load and unload Taconite. How are the hatches lifted and replaced and how does the huge boom work.

  • @bdctrans70
    @bdctrans70 3 місяці тому +2

    I figured she had a close encounter with the locks when she was heading to Duluth. Good for the captain was able to to get most of the crew off and get her into safety.

  • @RhGuse
    @RhGuse 3 місяці тому +2

    Corrosion and lack of maintenance. The ribbing can be seen through the hull. It’s amazing it was still afloat this long.

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому

      Not uncommon at all. Better to have some give, than none at all and be rigid like the hull of the Titanic. Deck plate is only an inch thick, and those ships take a beating up against the wharf, docks, piers, concrete dolphins. Not all loading docks are articulating. Many of the old stationary chute docks are still in use, in this case the ships are heaved up against and winched back and forth along the dock over and over again using the deck machinery to partially load measurable amounts of the commodity being loaded safely, watchfully and evenly with a constant eye on the hull strain gauges... for and as has happened throughout history, placing too much of a load differential along the ships keel can break her back.
      Then you have the Pilot boat, the Grub boat and Mailboat all banging up alongside the the shipside all season long, over 72 sailing seasons when ships crew board, disembark, or grub, goods, parts and mail and packages being are delivered, all while underway in all kinds of weather, and then making your way through the locks, where sometimes the shipsides rub and scrape along the charred black, sacraficial wood planking that line the lock walls and they get so hot that black smoke actually rolls and then rises up off of them.
      Then its onward to cutting through brash ice, ice floes and pack ice or being stuck in ice for 3 days to a week, with the engines set at 1/3 forward as you slowly try to make headway along while ice compresses against the hull and you await a U.S. or Canadian Ice Cutter or Tug to come and cut you out, and where a day's progress is sometimes measured in inches to feet, and so it goes, from spring fit out, all through the summer sailing season onto and all through the winter season until the end of season lay up.

  • @WeatherTrackerTV
    @WeatherTrackerTV 3 місяці тому +2

    Id bet water logged tree. Some of the pics online looked serious - listing more than 15 degrees. Luckily the guys got the pumps to stabilize her. But from the pics. I don’t think was far from being way more serious.

  • @JH-mj4ms
    @JH-mj4ms 3 місяці тому +5

    Whatever they hit could be damaged as well... I'm curious if it is possible for a submarine to travel directly under a boat of this size without being detected...and something went wrong while doing it.

    • @ngcolby
      @ngcolby 3 місяці тому +3

      There's no way to get a sub thru all the locks from the st lawrence seaway to lake superior without being noticed. Can't submerge in a lock. Even one of the small Gato class WWII subs couldn't do it.

    • @JH-mj4ms
      @JH-mj4ms 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ngcolby thanks...just thinking out loud...just seems like with such a big ship something could potentially hide under it...still want to know what damaged the ship.

    • @ngcolby
      @ngcolby 3 місяці тому +1

      @@JH-mj4ms A big tree is my guess, caught it just right...

    • @JH-mj4ms
      @JH-mj4ms 3 місяці тому

      @@ngcolby makes sense...and from the looks of the ship it might not of took much to break the hull. Looks like it's not very well maintained. It's a hunch.

  • @warrengee-f9l
    @warrengee-f9l 3 місяці тому +45

    Damb Russian submarines ! ... glad they made Thunder Bay OK

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому +22

      I was thinking China..😆

    • @scottburns2600
      @scottburns2600 3 місяці тому +2

      😆 🤣

    • @UnintendedConsequences
      @UnintendedConsequences 3 місяці тому +4

      Always with the “Russians”. 🥴

    • @frankpeck1448
      @frankpeck1448 3 місяці тому +5

      Now THAT'S funny...does anyone remember the movie: 'The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming!' A 1966 Comedy. History repeats itself!❤

    • @gumshoe2273
      @gumshoe2273 3 місяці тому +5

      Yes. Good movie. I remember the part where the Russians were trying to pronounce the town name of Gloucestershire off a map.

  • @Raptorman0909
    @Raptorman0909 3 місяці тому +8

    It's quite odd, it looks like it rubbed against something really hard and did so from bow to stern -- it's that last part that has me stumped. The only other thing is it may have been plated over from a previous strike and those ribs are stringers for the new plating. Whatever it is it looks pretty bad!

    • @danielmorris3687
      @danielmorris3687 3 місяці тому +3

      Those ribs have been showing for a few years and a few ships are worse. That's from going through locks and rubbing against piers. From what I've seen it isn't usually that rough where the hull curves down to the keel under the waterline. I'm thinking if they did hit something its probably under the water but of course that is just speculation. We should know what the inspection report determines relatively soon.

    • @just-stuff419
      @just-stuff419 3 місяці тому +1

      That's called oil canning. The battle ship New Jersey UA-cam Page has a good video explaining it. It's not from what a person might think.

    • @sturmovik1274
      @sturmovik1274 3 місяці тому +2

      Another comment from someone who sailed 25 years for Interlake said that heavy rains in Minnesota (and we've had a decent amount for the last month) would wash big trees into the lake to become submerged logs. He thought she might have hit one of them just right.

    • @Raptorman0909
      @Raptorman0909 3 місяці тому

      @@sturmovik1274 I think the odds that a tree, even a really big tree, substantially damaged a 700 foot vessel in deep water is ridiculous! In shallow water maybe but only just maybe, in deep water the bow would have pushed it out of the way causing only minor damage.
      Also, it appears the Coast Guard and other authorities suspect hull failure and given how bad that hull looks I'd have to agree that hull failure is way more likely!

  • @darnice1125
    @darnice1125 3 місяці тому +1

    Her stern looks more kicked up than normal when leaving Port. Maybe the camera angle is though. We'll once inspection is done, we will know what happened and no one tries to cover it up.

    • @darnice1125
      @darnice1125 3 місяці тому

      Ha, exactly what I said, structural failure.

  • @gregmctevia5087
    @gregmctevia5087 3 місяці тому +1

    Strange business.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ Beautiful piece.

  • @ILikeGT_101
    @ILikeGT_101 3 місяці тому +1

    What did you mean last time did you mean before the incident or last time ever

  • @jennyk2022
    @jennyk2022 3 місяці тому +4

    Old ship. Oil canned hull. Metal fatigue.
    All to be expected with time but if it leads to breach of hull = not good.
    Glad crew got to safety & ship still in service for now.

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому +1

      Not uncommon at all. Better to have some give, than none at all and be rigid like the hull of the Titanic. Deck plate is only an inch thick, and those ships take a beating up against the wharf, docks, piers, concrete dolphins. Not all loading docks are articulating. Many of the old stationary chute docks are still in use, in this case the ships are heaved up against and winched back and forth along the dock over and over again using the deck machinery to partially load measurable amounts of the commodity being loaded safely, watchfully and evenly with a constant eye on the hull strain gauges... for and as has happened throughout history, placing too much of a load differential along the ships keel can break her back.
      Then you have the Pilot boat, the Grub boat and Mailboat all banging up alongside the the shipside all season long, over 72 sailing seasons when ships crew board, disembark, or grub, goods, parts and mail and packages being are delivered, all while underway in all kinds of weather, and then making your way through the locks, where sometimes the shipsides rub and scrape along the charred black, sacraficial wood planking that line the lock walls and they get so hot that black smoke actually rolls and then rises up off of them.
      Then its onward to cutting through brash ice, ice floes and pack ice or being stuck in ice for 3 days to a week, with the engines set at 1/3 forward as you slowly try to make headway along while ice compresses against the hull and you await a U.S. or Canadian Ice Cutter or Tug to come and cut you out, and where a day's progress is sometimes measured in inches to feet, and so it goes, from spring fit out, all through the summer sailing season onto and all through the winter season until the end of season lay up.

  • @stakman78
    @stakman78 3 місяці тому +3

    That old girl looks like she's past her use by date!
    The ripples in her sides

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn 3 місяці тому

      1952. One of the last of the old school lakers with the forward pilothouse. Almost seems odd to see one that's not black.

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому

      Not uncommon at all. Better to have some give, than none at all and be rigid like the hull of the Titanic. Deck plate is only an inch thick, and those ships take a beating up against the wharf, docks, piers, concrete dolphins. Not all loading docks are articulating. Many of the old stationary chute docks are still in use, in this case the ships are heaved up against and winched back and forth along the dock over and over again using the deck machinery to partially load measurable amounts of the commodity being loaded safely, watchfully and evenly with a constant eye on the hull strain gauges... for and as has happened throughout history, placing too much of a load differential along the ships keel can break her back.
      Then you have the Pilot boat, the Grub boat and Mailboat all banging up alongside the the shipside all season long, over 72 sailing seasons when ships crew board, disembark, or grub, goods, parts and mail and packages being are delivered, all while underway in all kinds of weather, and then making your way through the locks, where sometimes the shipsides rub and scrape along the charred black, sacraficial wood planking that line the lock walls and they get so hot that black smoke actually rolls and then rises up off of them.
      Then its onward to cutting through brash ice, ice floes and pack ice or being stuck in ice for 3 days to a week, with the engines set at 1/3 forward as you slowly try to make headway along while ice compresses against the hull and you await a U.S. or Canadian Ice Cutter or Tug to come and cut you out, and where a day's progress is sometimes measured in inches to feet, and so it goes, from spring fit out, all through the summer sailing season onto and all through the winter season until the end of season lay up.

  • @briansims4365
    @briansims4365 3 місяці тому +2

    Had there been any earthquake activity in the area recently. Might be lake floor rose due to seizmic activity

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn 3 місяці тому +1

      Not Superior. It's in the middle of a tectonic plate that's been stable for billions of years. There are still small earthquakes in the Great Lakes from the land rebounding after being pushed down by the glaciers, but they don't change the landscape.

    • @patriciasutton8655
      @patriciasutton8655 3 місяці тому +3

      I’d think a quake large enough to do that, if it happened on Superior, would trigger a tsunami.
      Besides, no reports of activity on the USGS Earthquake tracker.

    • @ffemtx4
      @ffemtx4 3 місяці тому

      Ain't NO earthquake ever gonna significantly make Superior's shipping channels lake floor rise THAT high without a giant tsunami happening!!

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn 3 місяці тому

      @@ffemtx4 - You don't get giant landslides in an area with solid granite bedrock, either. All the loose stuff got scraped off by glaciers and what's left is rock that's been there for 3 billion years.

    • @ffemtx4
      @ffemtx4 3 місяці тому

      @@GWNorth-db8vn Exactly. Although there are some minor "slough offs" of limestone & sandstone once in awhile that wouldn't affect freighters.

  • @oliverscratch
    @oliverscratch 3 місяці тому +1

    Perhaps they encountered Mishipeshu.

  • @terin1862
    @terin1862 3 місяці тому +7

    MH-370?

  • @wdhewson
    @wdhewson 3 місяці тому +3

    She looks light in the water??

    • @ffemtx4
      @ffemtx4 3 місяці тому

      At 3:20 looks to be drafting about 22'-23'.

  • @NormanSilver
    @NormanSilver 3 місяці тому +3

    Divers should be deployed into that area ASAP!

    • @tuxedotservo
      @tuxedotservo 3 місяці тому +2

      More feasible for a thorough side-scan sonar sweep of the area, just to rule out any 'pinnacles of doom' - though one would think if there was an up-cropping there (like Superior Shoal is, further to the east) other ships would've found out by now.

    • @johngreenlees
      @johngreenlees 3 місяці тому +1

      It looks like when it turns to try to head for Thunder Bay, it is in what amounts to the recommended shipping lane - at a point where its 500 plus feet in any direction for a long way - they didn't hit bottom or run aground at that point. There are NOAA and another big Univ bouys right in that area but . . .

  • @tol12341
    @tol12341 3 місяці тому +5

    Was waiting for a Gordon light foot remix,…..to soon?

  • @leftseat30
    @leftseat30 3 місяці тому +1

    Coast guard station grand marais? Closed!

  • @neverinthemoment
    @neverinthemoment 3 місяці тому

    I don't think there are any submarines in the Great Lakes?!

  • @markbaker3639
    @markbaker3639 3 місяці тому +1

    Is she starting to get too old to sail?

  • @mikegleeson349
    @mikegleeson349 3 місяці тому

    I don't know, what could have they hit?

  • @rosspeterson3711
    @rosspeterson3711 3 місяці тому +7

    Damn orcas

  • @alparker8661
    @alparker8661 3 місяці тому +1

    Any container ships on the lakes yet?

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому +1

      Due to their size, those are handled on the coasts and then ship 'double-stack' intermodal (sea containers) by rail as most are to large to navigate the locks in the St. Lawrence Seaway, and are limited to 740 feet in length, 78 foot beam and drafting no more than 26 feet.

    • @SailorGerry
      @SailorGerry 3 місяці тому

      26' 09" now, mostly dependant on water levels lower Seaway (Montreal area).

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 3 місяці тому

      @@SailorGerry --- Greetings from Sailor Jerry!!!

  • @jameskiehm546
    @jameskiehm546 3 місяці тому +1

    I watched the video of the insert long Native American name I can’t pronounce boat leaving Duluth and thought, wow that is an old relic of the past. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had a hull failure of some kind.

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому

      That is the latest plausible rumor out there on the cause.

    • @jameskiehm546
      @jameskiehm546 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PaulScinoccaHey Paul, love your channel. I got the freighter bug Christmas day 1979. My dad, grandpa, bother and myself went down to the Milwaukee lakefront because of a massive winter storm. While it was still light out we came upon the EM Ford. We noticed crew members huddled outside trying to add dock lines. My dad and I tried to assist but when some cables snapped we backed off. We told them we’d contact the Harbor Master and the Coast Guard of their plight. The Harbor Master was closed and the Coast Guard said unless the crew was in imminent danger there was nothing they could do. Really angry, we returned to the ship and informed them no one was coming to help. We left for Christmas dinner. After dinner I turned on TV and the whole EM Ford story was all over the news with the Coast Guard front and center. That was upsetting because they were warned and failed to respond. However, in 2014 that same Coast Guard station launched a massive search for my bother on Lake Michigan. His boat was found but it took another 3 weeks for his body to float to the surface. So in the end I am very complimentary of their work but it took a long time to forget the lack of response that night in 1979.

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому +1

      @jameskiehm546 very interesting story of the past! Thanks for sharing with me.

  • @chuckhelson3744
    @chuckhelson3744 3 місяці тому

    They didn’t hit anything.
    There was a fracture of the hull , a split.
    This ship was built in 1952.
    It’s called Metal Fatigue.
    It’s possible to repair , but at what expense.
    That’s for the money crunchers to determine.
    The complete hull needs to be fully checked for other weak spots.
    This may take all of the remaining season to get that done.
    Not a small task.

  • @RailFanRob
    @RailFanRob 3 місяці тому

    This ship is very old so a stress crack wouldn't surprise me....

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 3 місяці тому +7

    It hit old age. Falling aport.

  • @oldinuselesshancox5194
    @oldinuselesshancox5194 3 місяці тому +2

    Big foot swimming

  • @rhyoliteaquacade
    @rhyoliteaquacade 3 місяці тому

    Edmund Fitzgerald Launched: June 7, 1958. Coincidence? I think not!

  • @JanetWoolley-ze8qb
    @JanetWoolley-ze8qb 3 місяці тому

    Thunder bay news stated that it has been confirmed thT the damage was caused by the hull failing....13 foot Crack.
    .heavy loads x70 year vessel still in usage = bad ideas and failures...

  • @chrisstart4714
    @chrisstart4714 3 місяці тому +4

    Their still investigating as to what they hit. So don't spread rumors

    • @DanBrando
      @DanBrando 3 місяці тому +5

      Too late I just did. I said it was aliens from Project blue book.

  • @Adamu98
    @Adamu98 3 місяці тому +9

    Superior wanted another boat. 1975 is too long of a wait for her.

  • @chuckhelson3744
    @chuckhelson3744 3 місяці тому

    They didn’t hit anything.
    There was a future of the hull , a split.
    This ship was built in 1952.
    It’s called Metal Fatigue.
    It’s possible to repair , but at what expense.
    That’s for the money crunchers to determine.
    The complete hull needs to be fully checked for other weak spots.
    This may take all of the remaining season to get that done.
    Not a small task.

  • @katherinespencer2633
    @katherinespencer2633 3 місяці тому +2

    Very scary incident, just grateful that the Edwin Gott escorted it into port.

    • @benjamingaines6472
      @benjamingaines6472 3 місяці тому

      Godzila!

    • @maverick214
      @maverick214 3 місяці тому

      The Edwin Gott didn't escort it into port - it travelled onto Duluth harbor where it is currently moored.

  • @beedalton9675
    @beedalton9675 3 місяці тому

    Old gal still looking Good.....the old Elton hoyt the 2nd hope the crew are ok

  • @OscarVaughn
    @OscarVaughn 3 місяці тому

    I hear they are scrapping it now.

    • @PaulScinocca
      @PaulScinocca  3 місяці тому +1

      I'm holding out on her demise, for now, so many rumors flow.

    • @OscarVaughn
      @OscarVaughn 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PaulScinocca I was hoping something could be done to save it hoping for the best and hearing tons of different things your right rumors are a flowing

  • @auntistella
    @auntistella 3 місяці тому

    Submarine?

  • @barrettemonique9070
    @barrettemonique9070 3 місяці тому

    Thats not even english, I’m afraid. Did you mean what could they have hit?

  • @rhyoliteaquacade
    @rhyoliteaquacade 3 місяці тому

    North Korean submarine?

  • @donnhate9081
    @donnhate9081 26 днів тому

    Woot!

  • @pfaffdaddy169
    @pfaffdaddy169 3 місяці тому

    She didn't hit anything ...... She cracked in and around cargo hold four is the word from a worker on board.

  • @benzomanic2972
    @benzomanic2972 3 місяці тому

    Kinda freaks me out.... Was it Nessy? Champ? The Meg?

  • @timtenn7671
    @timtenn7671 3 місяці тому +4

    Structural failure would seem most plausible explanation.

  • @bluntone2273
    @bluntone2273 3 місяці тому

    Rubbing the lock wall?

  • @Sue-zf5uu
    @Sue-zf5uu 3 місяці тому +1

    Submarine or a lochness monster

  • @troytheconsumeroflargequan3254
    @troytheconsumeroflargequan3254 3 місяці тому +2

    North Korean sub for sure.

    • @alparker8661
      @alparker8661 3 місяці тому +2

      It would sink before leaving N Korean waters.

  • @talcoprentice7292
    @talcoprentice7292 3 місяці тому +1

    Crashed UFO????

  • @kevinmoynihan8087
    @kevinmoynihan8087 3 місяці тому

    Is there enough in this story for a modern-day Lightfoot to work something up…maybe a rap version…

  • @Jfk3434
    @Jfk3434 3 місяці тому

    Not good but all Souls safe!

  • @thetigerstripes
    @thetigerstripes 3 місяці тому

    When is the salmon run ?

  • @Twobeers1
    @Twobeers1 3 місяці тому +2

    Chinese or Russian submarine? Just sayin

    • @stevemacgruther4051
      @stevemacgruther4051 3 місяці тому

      Subs can't get to the great lakes,they would have to go through the locks in the st Lawrence

  • @adamlee9461
    @adamlee9461 3 місяці тому +1

    Giant Squid

  • @БориславАсенов-и7э
    @БориславАсенов-и7э 3 місяці тому

    САЩ - Стрелба остави трима убити и двама ранени в Южна Дакота....кафе от каничка и кафе от джезве от което някога съм "гледал" с пускащо допълнително "лакто с криминални познати събития" разликата лактова "ВЕДГА" знаете ли каква е - пита "подводницата A-Michi"?

  • @SergioLuizCardosodeSouzaJunior
    @SergioLuizCardosodeSouzaJunior 3 місяці тому

    Compro 5.000 navios dessa classe para a marinha mercante do Rio de Janeiro Brasil

  • @DavidSquires-iy4uv
    @DavidSquires-iy4uv 3 місяці тому

    She made into Port Safely, and No,lives were Lost. Thanks to the Edwin H Gott, and she's was there at,the right time. 3:11

  • @jimmyfiggs6293
    @jimmyfiggs6293 3 місяці тому

    I think they hit a Russian Sub

  • @JRJ0852
    @JRJ0852 3 місяці тому

    Old age !

  • @delightfulhelper
    @delightfulhelper 3 місяці тому +2

    It did not hit anything.

    • @trevorn9381
      @trevorn9381 3 місяці тому +2

      Yep most likely the 72 year old hull sprung a leak due to metal fatigue. That is most likely what happened to the Fitz as well. They said that after it was lengthened the Fitz would flex so much in heavy seas that paint would pop off bulkheads. This ship was lengthened as well back in 1957 when it was known as the Elton Hoyt II.

  • @by-amrcn
    @by-amrcn 3 місяці тому +7

    Probably a Rebel X-wing Starfighter shot down by the American Integrity.

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 3 місяці тому +2

    An old sunken German U-Boat that sneaked into the lakes via the St. Lawrence River.
    That's my guess

    • @kevinduveneck1504
      @kevinduveneck1504 3 місяці тому +2

      Submarines are no stranger to the Great Lakes, at least to Lake Michigan. Twenty-nine WW2 subs were built at Manitowoc Shipbuilding in Wisconsin. However, they left the lake through Chicago using floating drydocks which took them through Illinois to the Mississippi River and to the Gulf of Mexico.

  • @jameylane1591
    @jameylane1591 3 місяці тому +3

    That thing looks like a serious death trap.

  • @michaelpjeffries1521
    @michaelpjeffries1521 3 місяці тому +1

    Great lakes piracy is nothing new. Even the Edmond Fitzgerald aided sailors in distress while on company time.