A Visual History of Human Knowledge | Manuel Lima | TED Talks
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- How does knowledge grow? Sometimes it begins with one insight and grows into many branches. Infographics expert Manuel Lima explores the thousand-year history of mapping data - from languages to dynasties - using trees of information. It's a fascinating history of visualizations, and a look into humanity's urge to map what we know.
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I really enjoyed this. The thought I find most fascinating is that while all trees above ground may seem solitary, below there is of course a network of root systems. However at some point we must assume people looked at trees with no knowledge of the roots below, even though obviously the roots had to come first before growing into the tree itself.
So, my question, I guess, is, as our visualization of human knowledge evolves and shifts, are we really moving forward? Or is it that the more information and capability we have allows us to pull back and see the larger picture, essentially working backwards? It’s not so different from as a child recognizing the triangle as a 2-dimensional shape, and as you grow learn that it can also correctly represent a 3-dimensional pyramid, shown in 2 dimensional form. What we knew with absolute certainty as a 5 year old gets added to and becomes entirely different as we experience and gain knowledge.
And of course, it makes you wonder, keeping my real-life metaphor of a tree, if we’ve moved from our understanding as a tree, now down to the roots, what will our understanding of knowledge look like next?
"no matter where you are, everyone is always connected"
Agradeço a Margarida Ferreira pela tradução das legendas para o português-BR. Isso realmente ajuda bastante a todos os brasileiros.
It's not the Tree of Life. But the Web of Life. Great Idea. Thank you.
+Quang Luong
Or a DNA swarm, as I've heard it described.
Rhizome
Finally a good one! I learned more from the first 2 minutes of this talk than from the last ten combined.
Misleading title, was not expecting a history of tree and circular representations of human knowledge. I clicked because i wanted to see history of knowledge represented visually. So disappointing..
Me too.
Aviri Char your comment doesnt make sense... What surfave impressions? I'm not saying video was bad or shallow. I'm just saying it covered topic different than what title claimed to cover... It's like I'm buying carton of milk saying it's milk and get cold tea instead...
Read my comment again...
+Vaidas Šukauskas Ah I see your confusion you were after "a history of knowledge, represented visually" not "a history of knowledge represented visually"
Chris Storm Facepalm?
Aviri Char In recent years TED been cheapened with pseudo intellectual speeches. No need to be misleading in titles too...
And i did not gain any new perspective on the title. Because there was nothing to gain. It was just wrong, simple as that.
Besides, you it's not that hard to device a title that's deep in meaning and correct too...
I just love this video as it is the matter of my interest: knowledge Generation and culture....
This talk is so interesting.
Nice presentation. Makes a change.
Interesting talk. Can't help feel that the desire to encapsulate a network into a diagram is that different from the first example, of putting 'god' at the top. That is to say, you can't actually capture the dynamic or magnificence of the totality, hence why the visualizations remain 'flat', and why those rope art pieces are so powerful.
I am now officially a networkist.
+Axel Wickman Oh yeah? Well, I'm a Post-Millenial Networkist of the 2015 Reformation. Want to have a sectarian war? Be warned...I have a nasty right hook. o__O
+avedic Provide your evidence. I am not against you, I am merely interested.
I love a good network but I was hoping he was going to show us something he'd done with this information
+josh mcgee Same, most of us know that networks are important. He didnt bring much new information. Still a good talk I would not miss.
+josh mcgee
Yeah, me too. To me, this looks like the art he shows at the end, it is someone's creative reaction to looking at the data or ways data is analyzed and then put in a form to be entertaining ... his talk is the artwork, which is a kind of advertisement for art ... there is no real information or knowledge her, certainly not "A Visual History Of Human Knowledge" except in an artistic license kind of way. Most TED talks are like this, big title, little point. ;-)
+nxadmon
you seem like a loser who just likes to annoy people for no reason.
+Aviri Char
That's funny, everyone else tells me I am a very quick study, for example, I can tell you are a person who draws conclusions without thinking, the comment I made as in reaction to a comment that has now been editing to be completely different. I should have posted his initial comment alongside mine.
I keep wondering if it's possible to present information using virtual reality, the upcoming revolutionary medium, in a way so that users would be able to manipulate or understand the data in unique ways that wouldn't otherwise be possible. Is there a way, for example, to convert data into a handheld sized object that could be examined intuitively, feeling natural for real 3D-world beings?
+ytubeanon It can be simulated as webs with each node as a point using HoloLens.
Yes, have you ever tried psychosis.
Very enlightening! Wanna watch again ;)
best transition ever on 4:51 - a man yawning on the bottom of the screen
he is Daniel Stern: Marvin (Marv) from "home alone"
You try to give the video more brightness it will be great if you do
Fascinating
I'd like to see a network of networks
+Anton Shorter internet
+Raghav Balaraj I'm thinking more in the lines of a network graphic of graphic network types.
+Anton Shorter internet.yes.internet.
Look at multiplex networks perhaps?
Decentralize everything! THANKS!
Bravo!
Look into systems dynamics and systems thinking. Their archetypes and models of relationships may inform some of his models of networks.
This needs more views!
+Alex Valentine It's only been out for a few minutes.
Didn´t notice!
Yeah, but you know what i like more than materialistic things? KNAWLEDGE
This is wonderful
What would be the leaves of the tree that can heal the nations? Can anyone please help?
The tree visual still the best, could be expanded to 3D tree
Btw great presentation!
Amazing how he covers so many eons of human knowleddge systems in a short presentation
3:09 - the more we know about the brain, the more we think of it as a large music symphony
Fascinating subject, but simplistic and lame analogy. I've read book after book about the brain and neuroscience and I have never heard this metaphor used at all.
Instead of touting the "network" as the new way to visualize things, when you look at the PERL collaboration diagram it may not be that the network is the paradigm, but that this is mapping out data for which we have not yet found an order. A network is like the raw data, the substrate, and the order lives on that substrate. I just say this because I think the human brain cannot really integrate in an intuitive sense a network or data, we form little trees/hierarchy subtrees starting in whatever focus.
Like in other areas, especially internet arguments, we reduce things, all to often to linearities ... but even that is OK if we know the data and know where it is linear and the behavior of other variables around what we are looking at.
I'm just thinking, the network is the data, the tree is the way we visualize it.
Great!
Very interesting talk.. and this guy sounds like a voice actor for some of the characters in Skyrim >_>
Mind Blown..
It should be called a history of humans visualizing their knowledge
Fantástico!
Indeed.
Marvellous
Intro to graph theory
Trees and Networks are both Graphs. Trees are Graphs without loops. Networks are Graphs of any kind.
Did we really need a TED talk for this?
Is this guy brazilian?
+Dayane Oliveira Portuguese :)
Anon FiveThousand thanks :D
mind mapping ?
i love networkism
network - butterfly - in trees
Just about every network diagram that was shown was outright useless. The point of those trees is that they can be followed and referenced by humans, while the point of those network diagrams was almost invariably "We had this dataset so why not generate a pretty graph" or "Look how complicated my field is, guys!" A family tree, for example, can be used as-is. It contains the data, it contains the relationships as part of the graph. Meanwhile, a graph of ten million neurons is absolutely useless; it's only derived off of the data that was already collected, and nobody will ever use that graph for anything substantive.
+Twitch · Please tell us more about the future, oh wise one.
+Brandon Mather At what point was I talking about the future? I'm talking about how all the tree graphs shown are useful, and how all the network graphs shown are useless. Network graphs are better at representing huge amounts of data than trees are, but they're still useless, because they're still not human-referenceable
A tree uses the Arborescent models, which superficially and arbitrarily impose and encourage binaries, dichotomous thinking, statements of ‘yes’ or ‘no’ ‘true’ or ‘false' it forces us to use reductionist thinking and dualism between relations and subjects. See Deleuze and Guattari on Rhizomes in the first plateau of A thousand Plateaus for why this network modal.
Though it takes a lot of thinking to read
NOKIA Connecting People
good
Networks are fine if you take Socialism as the ultimate model of righteousness. I don't. On the other hand, the flaw of the tree metaphor was not that it inadequately met our modern needs, but that it is upside down.
In our modern world, 'HERE and NOW', is the essence. This means the tree trunk should be current time, current place, and the branches should trace various profundities of causality that occurred to bring us there.
Try that, picture your family tree as YOU-centric, and everything before you as branches disappearing finely into the small details above you, into the ethereal sky, tinier and tinier in consequence... but the mass of your tree, is who YOU are and what YOU'VE become... now the tree metaphor is perfectly modern and relevant.
Deleuze and Guattari anyone?
Idk.. Not a fan of classification especially in this sense..
Aviri Char Great point haha
Quantum Entanglement.......Everything and everyone is connected!
Too much maps with less than enough to describe the concept.
I have watched pictures, but less likely to remember the facts been said in the video.
The quality of the information is not considered, only facts and personal beliefs.
I was interested to see the video, but now I think it was a waste of time.
If I'm about to present such an interesting topic, I would stimulate the appeal to acquire knowledge using facts from real life, break them down, simplify them and offer the audience a challenge they experience in their daily life, then I would think of a way to make them save the information being shared with them so they can use it in their daily life. Afterword, I would describe how human beings organize their ideas, mapping them, and how data are being stored then presented. At the end, I would use the whole video to illustrate the reason behind using those maps and how important they're to describe the topic.
Cheers :D
Everything is spiderman webs now
knowledge
Natwork
OMG Ramon Llull is not ''lul'' is ''yuy'' PLZ jajaja
Lol
+I'm Wiisi it would be 'yul'
Yarblocosifilitico
no :/
I'm Wiisi mmm how do you even pronounce that? I'm spanish and we say 'yul', sorry but your correction needed to be corrected
Yarblocosifilitico sorry but i'm catalán and is yuy so... Get fucking reck LOL
The correction of the correction needed to be corrected. IMBECIL JAJAJA
I think this signifies a growth away from the outdated notion that there needs to be a constant hierarchy in our everyday lives that has been limiting us socially and culturally for centuries, Who knows maybe Anarcho-syndicalists are onto something
networkism is because we "may" be understanding the paradigm of the ancients. implosion energy (matriarchal) vs. explosion energy (patriarchal). Networks are inherently feminine.
Like si estás aquí por tu profe de Filosofía :,cc
Well tree is a network as well.There is no central core,leader.The human mind made it so.Greed.
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Isn't everything you need to know in the bible? I mean, the koran? I mean the torah? Hang on, I mean the book or Mormon?
second comment
Rari 🐕
human knowledge is on the low thanks to smart phones
Lol even though smart phones has spread so much knowledge to so many people. Okeh
it helps but not really.
+kalaigirl 'it helps but not really' lol
+kalaigirl It doesn't help, but really, it does.
+kalaigirl Tell me how will you gather information on Higgs Boson with your smart phone.
BUT WHY?
+xandric sturgill because all the problems we try to figure out in science are no longer like a string of causes instead they are more complex and a way of visualize the interaction of the components that participate in a certain situation is by using networks. He doesn´t explain the ways of using said networks on solving problems but it´s implicit that when you use a different way of visualize the nature you can get to new and more complex information which is what science wants
+Alex Valentine Woah.. I was just commenting for the sake of the comment.. I didn't go into that detailed train of thought.
+xandric sturgill Because it's easier to visualize. Dont comment for the sake of a comment, this isn't 9gag.
His accent is so painful to listen to. He pronounces web "wæb".
Idk.. Not a fan of classification especially in this sense..
+Michael Rosche To be honest I think a lot of what he is trying to say is that it is more for the next generation for them to teach at schools, so maybe we dont even need to worry or deal with it.
+Mark M You wont worry about it, if you are not scientist. Scentists do worry about it :)
Its not the fact you should worry too because it is an evolution in the sense so I worry not
+Michael Rosche I'm sorry, but the sentence _"Its not the fact you should worry too because it is an evolution in the sense so I worry not"_ is something my brain just cannot compute. I can't make heads or tails out of what you meant by any of that. Care to clarify?