You say that the Unknown Dragonborn nothing is known. However you pointed out that he's either from the Merethic Era or the early first based on Armour. The biggest Hero we know of from that time is Ysgrammor, I believe it's quite likely that Ysgrammor's Deeds simply over shadowed the Unknown Dragonborn own to such a point he was completely forgotten by History. It wouldn't be the first time in Tamerial that knowledge of an earlier time would be lost or forgotten.
You make the funniest puns!! But some of your throw away lines, sometimes risque , which you throw out there and hurry on, make me bust out laughing!!! Here has been my thoughts on the unknown 'other' dragonborn there: I feel it might be an easter egg, put there by the devs, to represent all of the 'players' who have become Dragonborn before you, in your own game. Could it be??
@@BigBangAttack-mt6pz I keep playing in the game after I go to Sovngarde, and in one series, I died and then ended the series there. So I would have went to Sovngarde..wouldn't I?
I've always hated that quest it's so contradictory. Seriously, is olaf in sovngarde, or in skyrim as a dragur? Or is there some missing piece of lore that explains he can somehow be both? It makes no sense whatsoever.
@@DragonGunzDorian I like to believe Draugr are just the body and the last remnants of a Nord's soul after they die, volunteered by the Nord before death to act as a guard to their tombs. And those that do this get a special seat at Shor's table for until the rest of their soul is reunited with the part that was left behind. But of course, this is just what I like to think happens
Sigma while this is cool and could make for some cool lore, It does seem a bit contradictory to how the draugr we see in skyrim were traitors who served the dragons.
I noticed that you didn't mention that if you finish the civil war for the Empire that you find Ulfric there and he literally regrets the entire rebellion and how shortsighted and stupid it was.
“In the end, all valiant Nords can enter Sovngarde. Dismemberment, decapitation or evisceration seems a small price to pay for the chance to spend an eternity in Shor's wondrous hall.”
I remember a post on r/TESlore saying non-nords who live and die as valiant nords can make it to Sovngarde. For example, Hernantier, the first elven member and Harbinger of the Companions, was "born with the heart of a Nord," and could theoretically be in Sovngarde. It should be noted tha the people you can see in the Hall of Valor are not the only residents of Sovngarde, but that's probably obvious considering how few people you see in the Hall.
@@turin5675 I think you two are referring to two different shouts; you are referring to the call of valour, while I guess that the other lad meant the dragon aspect shout that summons a nameless dragonborn?
Delphine says that the blades knew that Dragonborns were the ultimate dragon slayers, but Miraak, for as far as we know, never worked with the blades, but he could’ve had children, or akatosh knew that the majority of dragons were evil so gave more than one after the defeat of Alduin to help with the population, and that early history was lost, like the dragon tend shout, to time
As far as i know, Atmorans didn't record their history until Ysgramor learned to write (conventionally). This mysterious Dragonborn is most likely from Atmora, before dragons and men migrated to Skyrim.
any of the heroes of sovengarde can have that line of dialogue or at least a select number do. it's not just the one, I've experienced more than one say it.
That unknown Dragonborn might actually be Shor in disguise, and the only reason you can sit in that throne isn't because you are the mortal reincarnation of Shor, but because you aren't dead in the REALM of the dead and thus it's rules don't quite apply to you. The dead Nords in the fog can't find their way to the Hall of Valor, whereas you can walk through it without a single care in the world and get to the Hall within minutes. Not because you are Dragonborn, but because you aren't dead yet. Shor's throne was most likely made so that denizens of Sovengarde can't sit on it, but you aren't a denizen. You are merely passing through to eat the soul of an upstart lizard with an inability to shut up. And the reason Shor is in disguise? Because he wants to drink with his patrons without blinding them! Even gods like food and booze!
I personally don't buy the theory of the dovahkiin being an aspect of shor. Nowhere in the game, to my knowledge, does it say only shor can sit in that thrown. Just because I slap my name on a throne doesn't mean it prevents others from sitting on it. Then again I'm not a god, but still. The theory just does not have that much proof.
@@DragonGunzDorian Absolutely, there is no exact proof. But of course that is what a theory is. And most gods are/were pretty petty about mortals using their shit, both in fiction and mythology. That part is mostly just assumed
Why would shor disguise himself. I dont think shor would be afraid of alduin. And Why wouldnt the rules apply to living human? Best bet have right now is dragonborn is shor s avatar
@@greatenheim8460 he would disguise himself because his true form is to much for even the dead to see. It's why he never uses his throne. And as for why the rules wouldn't apply to the living, it's entirely because the living is not supposed to be there. It's unnatural, which is why you get sent back to Mundus almost immediately after you kill Alduin
Arngeir after returning from sovngarde says that you can be a force for good, a force for evil or fade into history and be forgotten as past Dragonborns have
I honestly always assumed that the bridge was just a massive dead dragon, didn’t know it was actually just a regular old whale but I guess it would make sense as even Alduin isn’t as big as the bridge.
the "hero of sovngarde" that says "hail dragonborn that honor is also mine to our shared birthright you'll bring new glory" may be a easter egg from bethesda referring all the other players
It's been over ten years...and just when I think you two are done- you and Nate throw another video out. I love you guys. I often binge your videos while I'm playing
12:51 I had witnessed it in my play-through. I was trying to get them to turn and they wouldn’t turn to face me and when I messed with my third-first person camera it showed them moved. It is a very quick snap of the model, like SCP 173 hoping to break your neck.
You know, i was in Skuldafn and Sovngarde today. And i happened to notice that there is a single burnt human corpse in Skuldafn Temple. According to Odavhiing, if you have no wings, you'll never set foot in Skuldafn. So how did that human get there? Maybe i'm talking nonsense, but could this maybe be related to this unknown dragonborn in Sovngarde?
It's possible that the unnamed Dragonborn may have failed whatever purpose Akatosh had for him, but was still good enough for Sovngarde. The reason you don't see any other Dragonborn in Sovngarde is probably because they're in Akatosh's corner of Etherius, having completed their destiny as Dragonborn. In Skyrim, you don't even know you're Dragonborn in the beginning, and if you ignore the main quest line, there's nothing really telling you what your purpose is. It's likely that after awakening as a Dragonborn, the unnamed hero just went on with his life as usual and never fulfilled the purpose Akatosh had intended for him, but was still a valiant and heroic warrior, earning a place in Sovngarde instead
24:29 but if Shor is the Nordic version if Lorcan wouldn't "Shor's bones" be sort of like saying "What in the world?" as Nirn was created via Creative Sacrifice?
@@MrGod-nl7no If i remember correctly, the moons were like representations of two primordial gods. That could be very wrong though, as I remember one of those gods being Sithis.
@@deadlyframe7794 Actually, according to the typical elven and men lore, the two moons are supposedly Lorkhan's floating corpses. After Au'riel tore Lorkhan's heart, shoots and the Red Mountain was made, Au-riel just yeets Lorkhan's body that was torn in half and both became the moons. Strange, I wonder which one is his lower half, maybe when we gaze up on secunda, were actually looking up at Lorkhan's balls.
My only guess is that he’s a super up version of the generic Nord Dragonborn in Skyrim’s promotional material. But that doesn’t make any sense, for many obvious reasons.
any of the heroes of sovengarde can have that line of dialogue or at least a select number do. it's not just the one, I've experienced more than one say it.
Do you ever plan to go back to some of your older ccc's and update them because some of them like eastmarch is only 12 minutes long and there is way more content then that im sure?
If you watch his April Fools video from this year, about the Almighty Torch, he lays out in the last few minutes of it what his plans are for the channel for a while to come, remastering the CCC videos is pretty much top of that list from what I remember...definitely looking forward to that!
The satisfying sensation of his alteration spreads through his videos to every nation and like the mastication of a snail it caresses the ears and draws in his audiance in a way Molag-Bal the lord of domination could never hope of accomplishing from his realm of desecration
I have a potential theory in regards to the "unnamed" dragonborn. Its possible he was a dragonborn from the dragon wars. We know Miraak was around before then, as dragons destryoed his temple. And there is a fairly large gap in history where no dragonborn is known. This unknown dragonborn could have been around during the dragon wars, but was either killed during battle or failed to defest Alduin. This would then force the ancient nords to send Alduin forward in time using the elder scroll (since their only way to defeat Alduin was lost). I dont have much evidence to support this. But Tsun say its been a long time since he faces a dragonborn, and the dragon wars took place fairly early in nord history. His name could have been lost to history as he likely failed in his quest and was forgotten. Its been a while since i played skyrim so i could be missing some things in terms of lore. I definitely plan on going back and doing some research however.
I was scrolling down when I saw this and thought : "hm, never watched this one" Then I looked at the upload date and DAAAMMNN boooi, new gift from father camel
I believe that that one dragonborn hero of sovngarde was born and died before they really started recording the dragonborns, hence him not bring known in history.
A Spoiler for the end of the video and Questions Is the unnamed Dragonborn in Sovngarde the same one you can summon with the Dragon Aspect shout? Is he the Ancient Dragonborn?
I was thinking this, and if Camel is right and there are no references to other dragonborns, this guy might fit the bill. Only issue might be the armour the summonable ancient dragonborn wears. Otherwise I think this unnamed dragonborn is probably the best candidate
There is a fellow dovahkin in the hall of valor. She doesn't have a name, that I can remember, but she makes a point of telling you she's also dragonborn.
24:45 Though indeed Whale bones making the bridge.. It is also told that the enormous bones on the map of Kagren-Zel are whale bones, but these bones even dwarf the Whalebone Brigdes'bones.
Shor: Today i'm going to create a neat afterlife realm for my Atmoran & Nordic bois. Random God-being servant: Are you sure? Shor: Yes? I am Shor? How do you keep forgetting this? God Servant: ¬_¬ Edit: I only noticed the word wall on my recent playthrough and thought it must've been for Alduin's unique fireball meteor storm ability. Either that or the mist shout (Ven Mul Riik) he uses perhaps in Sovngarde as again I believe that to be unique to him.
Sovngarde is so beautiful I remember the first time I played it I was so amazed by the sky and the amazing unique soundtrack Skyrim will always be one of my favorites if not my favorite game
So upon personal investigation, I've had several npc claim dragon born. Particularly the one pointed out in this video and a young blonde woman who wears the same ancient nordic armor. There's also a black bearded hero who I interacted with for several minutes until to my surprise I got a singal dialogue option that asks, "what do you do around here?" To which he responds, "I'm a bard. Trained at the bards collage in solitude. Wanderers like you should think about applying!" And then the optinal quest is added, 'Investigate the Bards College' Then I'm given one more dialogue option "..." And the conversation ends, and he starts saying random things again when trying to interact with him.
The mysterious dragonborn could be a piece of Mirrak. Now here me out. The dragonborn's soul like all dragons are a shard of Akatosh, a piece of a God. Mirrak was both mentally and physically corrupted by Mora. But could a daedric prince really take control of a shard of Akatosh? Most likely not therefore I believe that mysterious dragonborn could be a piece of Mirrak that couldn't be corrupted, hence why you can still see him before defeating Mirrak.
The unknown Ancient Dovakin might be from Atmora. He may have been famous in his time, with many a song and book written about him. But those records were lost, frozen along with the rest of the continent to the north. If true it would be a chilling tale about the ephemeral nature of glory.
You missed something, there's also a female Hero of Sovngarde who has the same "that honor is also mine" line, a second dragonborn. She starts out standing near the roasting oxes and has steel armor with the shoulderpads and an ancient nordic axe on her back.
I believe those statues are a representation of Shor (how he would look like) like the other daedra statues back in Tamriel. So if the theory of the dragonborn being the mortal version of Shor, it would make sense the statues constantly stare at their "master".
There are multiple dragon borne in Sovngard. I found the male dragonborn at the table in game, but also found a female dragonborn that was listed as a hero of sovngarde. Either Bethesda made this a throw away and rare line or there are two unsung dragonborn in Sonvgarde
I thought you'd speak about the fact that you'll be welcomed in the afterlife in Sovngard by Tsun after you defeat Alduin whether you're a Nord or not, I think there's something to investigate there
I've been using these videos to help myself fall asleep lately. Something about your voice and the rhythm of your sleep helps me relax and fall asleep and that is a really tough task, so thank you Camel
For the unknown dovakin... There are always heroes that have feats that history will change or not account for because they do not want to give that one glory... Or this hero did not wish for his fantastic feats to be recorded. I actually like heroes who do not want to stand before others more. He did his deed. That was enough of a reward for him.
I havent checked the like button for as many times as ive checked in this video to press it more, although ive done all i can to support you camel thank you especially in these hard times.
Could the unknown bird totem maybe be a raven? I know that ravens are a big part of Norse mythology (Odin has 2 ravens I think and were considered a sign) and since Skyrim's nords are based off Norse mythology. I dont know if ravens are big in Skyrim's lore or Elder Scrolls lore at large but I feel like I have definitely heard of ravens in Skyrim
Since Sovergarde is a parallel to the Norse Valhalla, the birds could be a parallel to Ravens, of which Odin had two and Odin is the head of the Norse Pantheon in mythology.
But Skyrim already has a GODDESS who is represented as a bird. It makes a lot more sense that it's a representation of Kyne, rather than a lame, and honestly lazy IRL reference.
@@Alizudo Notice that I said 'could be' not that it was. It was just a theory I had. And just because one is represented as a bird, doesn't mean it has to be the only one. The Egyptian Pantheon for example, has two that I can recall off the bat. Isis, who is sometimes represented by a sparrow and Thoth, who has the body of a man, but the head of an Ibis, which is a bird. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just a theory
I found 3 Dragonborns in Sovngarde, the one Camel found and two lady Dragonborns I found. I talked to everyone in Sovngarde three times and only the 3 I mention ever said they were Dragonborn.
My personal theory is that the dragonborn we find in Sovngarde is Miraak's soul. Yes, I know Miraak became Hermeus Mora's champion, but my personal theory is that he died as a person, and reached Sovngarde, this means that the Miraak we find in the Dragonborn DLC is actually an undead commanded by Hermeus Mora, this would also explain why it's so easy for us to convert him with our thu'um.
Nice Video and i have one Info for you. If you go to Sovngarde in the Creation Kit and see who the throne belongs to, you will find 1 NPC name. Only this NPC can use this chair and the NPC is called TSUN. So the throne is owned by Tsun.
I find the unknown Dragonborn perplexing mostly for the reason that, to my understanding and interpretation, dov of all ilk return to Akatosh when their soul is finally destroyed, and otherwise will be bound to their remains eternally. Dragonborn emperors notwithstanding, we should otherwise still see Wulfarth at least (assuming his death during the Warp in the West was 'ordinary').
"Long has the *Storm Crown* (Something only a king wears) languished with no worthy brow to sit upon. By our breath we bestow it now to you in the name of Kyne, in the name of Shor, and in the name of Atmora of old. You are Ysmir (another name for Talos a possible embodiment of Shor) now, the Dragon of the North."- greybeard greeting to the dragonborn Those in the Hall also seem to be omnipotent, as Jurgen knows how his the greybeards are doing he is pleased they are still following his ways so well. If that mysterious dragonborn is shor in human form, playing it low and cool, it could also explain why we see no other dragonborn because you are they, the dragonborn gets reincarnated and since you are the latest version of course none of the others would be there. You are also the last, so you can take your final rightful place forever on Shors throne.
Kudos for releasing a video about Nord heaven on Easter. Will you keep doing CCCs for other TES games? I'd love to see them for Morrowind and Oblivion.
I've been following you since forever ago, and I have to say your videos have allways been an absolute pleasure to watch. Every ounce of dedication and passion, every poetic turn of phrase in which the tale is spun, every cheesy wordplay joke... it all comes together in a hell of a time and a lot of smiling when I take a break from my own adventures. Keep up the good work, I'm Shor there is a place for you in Sovngarde for your great deeds ^^
The sheer concept of Sovngarde has always creeped me out. Sure, it would be nice to meet all of old nordic heroes and crack a cold one with them, feast and drink and sing songs. But what happens after? When you get bored from eternal partying in this pocket realm you can't escape. It never changes, it looks much finite to me. You are immortal, trapped in a place that doesn't imply you can do anything else but feast and fight, which becomes repetitive. You can't get any news, you can't have an adventure, you can't go anywhere. You're stuck, infinitely, in this feverish dream. And you can't die, either. Can't make it stop. So, what do you do? Drown in mead? Get lost in the mist? Yeah, sounds horrible to me. Cool video, btw
Guess that's what they want to do, but maybe there's some magical reason why you don't get bored of it. Also im pretty certain they can see/ hear about whats goin on in mundus from sovngarde, because if I'm not mistaken when you arrive in the hall, ysgramor acts as though he knows of you, which implies somehow they have knowledge of the outside world from there
@@gpu213 That makes sense. Maybe also the area is so small because of the engine's restrictions, and in fact Sovngarde is a whole city where you can do bunch of stuff. Orrrr it's not, and it's just a prison where souls go mad eventually. Or maybe they get reincarnated after some time Who knows. But it's still a scary concept, this Sovngarde of theirs.
oh my gosh I freaking love all of these videos so much but yes that drove me nuts. SAW-VIN-GARD :b I am so thankful for this channel really. I'm not trying to criticize something so meaningless in such an awesome video and channel. It's just a silly little thing that kept catching me off guard lol.
So glad you posted a video recently on Skyrim. As I’m in quarantine I’ve spent plenty of time revisiting the game and questing where I haven’t quested before. Thank you for this video!
The Sovngarde Dragonborn could be King Wulfharth. Also, he looks similar to the canon version of the Last Dragonborn seen in all of Skyrim's trailers, marketing, and merchandising.
He would've been labelled as Wulfharth then atleast. He is a well known dude, even Ysgramor was named. And there's no confirmation that wulfy was a dragonborn either just strong theories. And also the fact that he can't speak without causing an earthquake
These videos are so zen to me, I have them playing in the background all day as I'm doing things around the house. Your voice is calming and the puns are amazing!
Perhaps the mysterious un-named Dragonborn is some lost hero of the past, and we just haven’t learned of his story yet. Similar to “the forgotten hero” from Th Elder Scrolls Legends.
"Stuhn, Totem of the Whale" comes from a very sloppy source: A sparkly ESO mount description. Which, considering how busy their loremaster usually is with quests, writing, and mapping content I highly doubt it was properly vetted. It makes far more sense that the slain god of trials guards atop his totemic form's bones.
wow this is so relaxing and something i can actually listen to because i love skyrim, i’m gonna be watching these to fall asleep for a while! thank you
Redfall Xenos If I’m remembering correctly, the way Talos became a god is by mantling Lorkhan. Basically, Tiber Septim became similar to Lorkhan in people’s minds (sacrificing himself in battle for the good of humanity), so he kind of turned into Lorkhan, while still being separate from him. So Talos being at least vaguely present in Sovngarde (afterlife made by Shor, the Nordic name for Lorkhan) would make a lot of sense. (Side note: People also say that by the end of Skyrim the Last Dragonborn also mantles Talos.) Edit: Hadn’t finished watching the video, Talos was a Shezzarine, as Camel says the Last Dragonborn might be.
It makes sense the Septims are not in Sovngarde as they were not Nords but Cyrodiilic. Even Tiber Septim was born in High Rock before being raised by Nords.
Man the illusion you create with words is amazing and daunting, I’ll look into it but you should definitely write a book. You give the world a new light and it’s beautiful.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the Curating Curious Curiosities for Sovngarde.
00:04 - Intro
00:52 - Where is Sovngarde?
03:51 - Geography
06:22 - Fauna
07:26 - Flora
10:08 - Whale Rib Stairs
11:42 - Moving Watcher Statues
14:14 - Unique Stone Braziers
15:36 - Bird Motif Stone Designs Of Kyne
17:53 - Alduin's Perch
19:04 - King Tundra Cotton
20:10 - Birth Sign Constellations
21:37 - Tsun / Stuhn / Whale Bone Bridge
22:48 - Whale's Within The Elder Scrolls
24:52 - Snow Whale / Sand Whale
27:15 - Shor's Hall Of Valor
28:19 - Roasted Ox Legs
29:25 - Unique Roasted Ox Head
30:32 - Is The Last Dragonborn The Shezzarine?
33:00 - The Secret Hidden Un-Named Dragonborn
39:16 - Outro
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Do you think the unknown Dovakien is the one from Miriak's shout?
You say that the Unknown Dragonborn nothing is known. However you pointed out that he's either from the Merethic Era or the early first based on Armour. The biggest Hero we know of from that time is Ysgrammor, I believe it's quite likely that Ysgrammor's Deeds simply over shadowed the Unknown Dragonborn own to such a point he was completely forgotten by History. It wouldn't be the first time in Tamerial that knowledge of an earlier time would be lost or forgotten.
I _think_ the bird design at 16:00 is supposed to be a puffin, though I'm not sure.
You make the funniest puns!! But some of your throw away lines, sometimes risque , which you throw out there and hurry on, make me bust out laughing!!! Here has been my thoughts on the unknown 'other' dragonborn there: I feel it might be an easter egg, put there by the devs, to represent all of the 'players' who have become Dragonborn before you, in your own game. Could it be??
Im a fan of your channel keep it up! 👍👍👍👍
A cool thought, but that would probably mean they failed
@@BigBangAttack-mt6pz I keep playing in the game after I go to Sovngarde, and in one series, I died and then ended the series there. So I would have went to Sovngarde..wouldn't I?
@@ShirleyCurryTheOlderGamer Yeah probably it's definitely an interesting theory
This reminds me of the cave in Morrowind with the failed Nerevarines!
You left out Olaf one Eye wanting to have a drink with the Bard that called him a liar in life. And that Bard is wandering around outside the hall.
He also had said bard executed, but they kinda settled the score in the Bards College "questline"
@@BigBangAttack-mt6pz good shit
I've always hated that quest it's so contradictory.
Seriously, is olaf in sovngarde, or in skyrim as a dragur? Or is there some missing piece of lore that explains he can somehow be both? It makes no sense whatsoever.
@@DragonGunzDorian I like to believe Draugr are just the body and the last remnants of a Nord's soul after they die, volunteered by the Nord before death to act as a guard to their tombs. And those that do this get a special seat at Shor's table for until the rest of their soul is reunited with the part that was left behind. But of course, this is just what I like to think happens
Sigma while this is cool and could make for some cool lore, It does seem a bit contradictory to how the draugr we see in skyrim were traitors who served the dragons.
I noticed that you didn't mention that if you finish the civil war for the Empire that you find Ulfric there and he literally regrets the entire rebellion and how shortsighted and stupid it was.
That’s kinda because that isn’t what happens
@@robertcollins6596that does happen. Maybe try playing the game before being wrong lol
They were shortsighted. They didn't realize that the Thalmor wanted them to win. By not winning, we win.
“In the end, all valiant Nords can enter Sovngarde. Dismemberment, decapitation or evisceration seems a small price to pay for the chance to spend an eternity in Shor's wondrous hall.”
Until some prick with the soul of a dragon feels like enchanting
@@BigBangAttack-mt6pz 😂😭😭💀
I remember a post on r/TESlore saying non-nords who live and die as valiant nords can make it to Sovngarde. For example, Hernantier, the first elven member and Harbinger of the Companions, was "born with the heart of a Nord," and could theoretically be in Sovngarde. It should be noted tha the people you can see in the Hall of Valor are not the only residents of Sovngarde, but that's probably obvious considering how few people you see in the Hall.
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Considering Shor hates Elves, I doubt you’d find any.
I do believe the races of man could enter sovngarde at least. There are examples of, for example, redguards doing so.
I always snag the ox head for Meeko before leaving the hall. That previously poor pup deserves only the best.
The best meat for the goodest of boys
I found this in heaven you better not make a mess with it
Aye. He sits comfortably in my house in Markarth next to the warm hearth where Housecarl Argis keeps him company.
I Snag All The Ox Meat I Can Find For Any Of The Dogs That You Can Get Based On What Faction Or What Dog You Buy They Are All Good Pups.
SO HOLD ON... Your meaning to tell me that there was another dragonborn already in sovngarde when alduin was there, and he didnt do $#!7
Dont remember really but you can summon him later using a shout
@@lop90ful1 not that one. You missed him. It is the last easter egg
@@turin5675 thats who i mean
@@lop90ful1 then sorry, mate, you cannot. You can summon the tongues that help you though
@@turin5675 I think you two are referring to two different shouts; you are referring to the call of valour, while I guess that the other lad meant the dragon aspect shout that summons a nameless dragonborn?
I felt so much joy encountering *Kodlak* from the Companions in the Hall. It was a pleasure knowing I had helped him attain his final wish.
I think the unknown dragonborn was either unwritten in the annals of history, or was a hero from somewhere other than Tamriel (for example: Atmora).
Akavir?
Delphine says that the blades knew that Dragonborns were the ultimate dragon slayers, but Miraak, for as far as we know, never worked with the blades, but he could’ve had children, or akatosh knew that the majority of dragons were evil so gave more than one after the defeat of Alduin to help with the population, and that early history was lost, like the dragon tend shout, to time
Or maybe he was part of a Dragonbreak, which removed all traces of his heroics to all of history, save Sovngarde
As far as i know, Atmorans didn't record their history until Ysgramor learned to write (conventionally). This mysterious Dragonborn is most likely from Atmora, before dragons and men migrated to Skyrim.
any of the heroes of sovengarde can have that line of dialogue or at least a select number do. it's not just the one, I've experienced more than one say it.
That unknown Dragonborn might actually be Shor in disguise, and the only reason you can sit in that throne isn't because you are the mortal reincarnation of Shor, but because you aren't dead in the REALM of the dead and thus it's rules don't quite apply to you. The dead Nords in the fog can't find their way to the Hall of Valor, whereas you can walk through it without a single care in the world and get to the Hall within minutes. Not because you are Dragonborn, but because you aren't dead yet. Shor's throne was most likely made so that denizens of Sovengarde can't sit on it, but you aren't a denizen. You are merely passing through to eat the soul of an upstart lizard with an inability to shut up. And the reason Shor is in disguise? Because he wants to drink with his patrons without blinding them! Even gods like food and booze!
Could be, could well be
I personally don't buy the theory of the dovahkiin being an aspect of shor. Nowhere in the game, to my knowledge, does it say only shor can sit in that thrown. Just because I slap my name on a throne doesn't mean it prevents others from sitting on it. Then again I'm not a god, but still. The theory just does not have that much proof.
@@DragonGunzDorian Absolutely, there is no exact proof. But of course that is what a theory is. And most gods are/were pretty petty about mortals using their shit, both in fiction and mythology. That part is mostly just assumed
Why would shor disguise himself. I dont think shor would be afraid of alduin. And Why wouldnt the rules apply to living human? Best bet have right now is dragonborn is shor s avatar
@@greatenheim8460 he would disguise himself because his true form is to much for even the dead to see. It's why he never uses his throne. And as for why the rules wouldn't apply to the living, it's entirely because the living is not supposed to be there. It's unnatural, which is why you get sent back to Mundus almost immediately after you kill Alduin
The unknown Dragonborn is one that existed in Atmora when they didn’t have a written language. That is why you haven’t heard about him.
Good theory.
Im so early that the dragonborn is still in a carriage with ulfric
Hey, you! You're finally awake.
you were crossing the border right?
You walked into the imperial ambush same with that thief over there
STOP, YOU VIOLATED THE LAW
TiberiusS182 *resist arrest then kill everyone*
Arngeir after returning from sovngarde says that you can be a force for good, a force for evil or fade into history and be forgotten as past Dragonborns have
^
I honestly always assumed that the bridge was just a massive dead dragon, didn’t know it was actually just a regular old whale but I guess it would make sense as even Alduin isn’t as big as the bridge.
the "hero of sovngarde" that says "hail dragonborn that honor is also mine to our shared birthright you'll bring new glory" may be a easter egg from bethesda referring all the other players
I heavily agree
yea im rlly surprised he looked over this booming detail lol
It's been over ten years...and just when I think you two are done- you and Nate throw another video out. I love you guys. I often binge your videos while I'm playing
fym its been over 10 years
what do you mean 10 years?
@@gurglefleur4356 TES Skyrim was first released back in November of 2011. It's been just about ten years
Jade Dragon Gaming November 11th 2020 will be Skyrim’s 9th anniversary so it’s only been 8 years ya moron
@@crawlingchaos1759 nope. Not even 9 yet
12:51 I had witnessed it in my play-through. I was trying to get them to turn and they wouldn’t turn to face me and when I messed with my third-first person camera it showed them moved. It is a very quick snap of the model, like SCP 173 hoping to break your neck.
That warrior, mage and thief constellation thing is such a cool detail.
"We're the children of Skyrim and we fight all our lives, and when Sovngarde becons every one of us dies."
Auron Wintermoon “But this land is ours and we'll see it wiped clean
Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams”
"All hail to ulfric you are the high king..."
We drink to our youth, for days come and gone
For the Age of Aggression is just about done
We'll drive out the Stormcloaks and restore what we own
We drink to our youth today is come and gone for the age of oppression is now nearly done will drive out the empire from this land that we love
DORIAN Robinette disgusting rebel
Im going to be honest... I never noticed the colored clouds behind the skills made a picture of a birthsign...
Well they really don't look it most of the time so I don't blame you
We need you out of the gene pool.
@@recemarkou3223 how does it feel to be that overdramatic
I didn't either
Me neither mostly because when I see you can level up on my screen I go in level up then upgrade a skill
Imagine you're a nord hero, got through Alduin's fog, passed Tsun's test, and while crossing the bone bridge
you slip and fall to oblivion
At least you dinnae trip stepping on a loose bootstrap.
So embarassing....... Cheers
It depends: which of the realms of oblivion do you end up in? 😂
Mehrunes Dagon
I think after Tsun, that bridge is like, the second test the departed must go through
@@believer431 ig that's why even after many eras, there's barely any people in there
You know, i was in Skuldafn and Sovngarde today. And i happened to notice that there is a single burnt human corpse in Skuldafn Temple. According to Odavhiing, if you have no wings, you'll never set foot in Skuldafn. So how did that human get there? Maybe i'm talking nonsense, but could this maybe be related to this unknown dragonborn in Sovngarde?
Didn't the dragons have cults/slaves maybe that could be it?
It's possible that the unnamed Dragonborn may have failed whatever purpose Akatosh had for him, but was still good enough for Sovngarde. The reason you don't see any other Dragonborn in Sovngarde is probably because they're in Akatosh's corner of Etherius, having completed their destiny as Dragonborn. In Skyrim, you don't even know you're Dragonborn in the beginning, and if you ignore the main quest line, there's nothing really telling you what your purpose is. It's likely that after awakening as a Dragonborn, the unnamed hero just went on with his life as usual and never fulfilled the purpose Akatosh had intended for him, but was still a valiant and heroic warrior, earning a place in Sovngarde instead
24:29 but if Shor is the Nordic version if Lorcan wouldn't "Shor's bones" be sort of like saying "What in the world?" as Nirn was created via Creative Sacrifice?
Aren't the moons Lorkhans corpse? I always thought it would reference the moons
@@MrGod-nl7no If i remember correctly, the moons were like representations of two primordial gods. That could be very wrong though, as I remember one of those gods being Sithis.
@@deadlyframe7794 Actually, according to the typical elven and men lore, the two moons are supposedly Lorkhan's floating corpses. After Au'riel tore Lorkhan's heart, shoots and the Red Mountain was made, Au-riel just yeets Lorkhan's body that was torn in half and both became the moons. Strange, I wonder which one is his lower half, maybe when we gaze up on secunda, were actually looking up at Lorkhan's balls.
Brenden Leblanc it is sithis though
The earthbones are supposed to be those who continued in creating stuff.
It is Wulfharth, Former Atmoran High King of Skyrim, theorized by in-game npc's such as Jarl Balgruf to be Dragonborn.
I'm calling the Dragonborn that was in Sovngarde: "The Dragonborn Hero"
My only guess is that he’s a super up version of the generic Nord Dragonborn in Skyrim’s promotional material. But that doesn’t make any sense, for many obvious reasons.
any of the heroes of sovengarde can have that line of dialogue or at least a select number do. it's not just the one, I've experienced more than one say it.
Do you ever plan to go back to some of your older ccc's and update them because some of them like eastmarch is only 12 minutes long and there is way more content then that im sure?
He asked on twitter if he should and a lot of people said yes. I’m sure he will at some point
If you watch his April Fools video from this year, about the Almighty Torch, he lays out in the last few minutes of it what his plans are for the channel for a while to come, remastering the CCC videos is pretty much top of that list from what I remember...definitely looking forward to that!
This may sound silly, but you always make really strong word choices so I really enjoy listening.
The satisfying sensation of his alteration spreads through his videos to every nation and like the mastication of a snail it caresses the ears and draws in his audiance in a way Molag-Bal the lord of domination could never hope of accomplishing from his realm of desecration
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I have a potential theory in regards to the "unnamed" dragonborn. Its possible he was a dragonborn from the dragon wars. We know Miraak was around before then, as dragons destryoed his temple. And there is a fairly large gap in history where no dragonborn is known. This unknown dragonborn could have been around during the dragon wars, but was either killed during battle or failed to defest Alduin. This would then force the ancient nords to send Alduin forward in time using the elder scroll (since their only way to defeat Alduin was lost). I dont have much evidence to support this. But Tsun say its been a long time since he faces a dragonborn, and the dragon wars took place fairly early in nord history. His name could have been lost to history as he likely failed in his quest and was forgotten. Its been a while since i played skyrim so i could be missing some things in terms of lore. I definitely plan on going back and doing some research however.
As far as the unknown dragonborn, the grey beards said, after defeating Alduin, that it's possible to be forgotten over time. That's something 🤷
What if that Dragonborn fought in akavir or something and was simply forgotten by Tamriel’s history
What if the game developers put that guy in there specifically for theories to be made.
So refreshing to hear Camel's sexy voice.
his voice is quite sexy....
And his puns that make even the best of bards look like 2nd graders writing their first story
You can fall asleep to his voice. Happened too many times.
So sexy to hear Camel's refreshing voice.
Chill your thirst. Though refreshing it may be. Perhaps being cool and minty breath be too fresh for this melting lad.
I was scrolling down when I saw this and thought : "hm, never watched this one"
Then I looked at the upload date and DAAAMMNN boooi, new gift from father camel
No
I believe that that one dragonborn hero of sovngarde was born and died before they really started recording the dragonborns, hence him not bring known in history.
“There are no unaccounted for Dragon-Born.” Uhhh the whole unaccounted for part means we wouldn’t know.
Observant.
He means this is the first one found in game that wasn't accounted for
A Spoiler for the end of the video and Questions
Is the unnamed Dragonborn in Sovngarde the same one you can summon with the Dragon Aspect shout? Is he the Ancient Dragonborn?
I was thinking this, and if Camel is right and there are no references to other dragonborns, this guy might fit the bill. Only issue might be the armour the summonable ancient dragonborn wears. Otherwise I think this unnamed dragonborn is probably the best candidate
Ok I'm going to stop you right there doseint the shout guy use a two handed weapon and I'm prity sher the achint d.b. in the hull use is a sword
Kenny Wilkie Did you have a fucking stroke while writing this?
@@kennywilkie8198 the what now?
@@BIastwave. bad spelling sorry
There is a fellow dovahkin in the hall of valor. She doesn't have a name, that I can remember, but she makes a point of telling you she's also dragonborn.
I missed Skyrim content that made me go “wow”
Freddy no you don’t
onirionez b o i
@@onirione yes i do
@@General12th bruh i said that 7 months ago but I still think you don’t
24:45 Though indeed Whale bones making the bridge.. It is also told that the enormous bones on the map of Kagren-Zel are whale bones, but these bones even dwarf the Whalebone Brigdes'bones.
Shor: Today i'm going to create a neat afterlife realm for my Atmoran & Nordic bois.
Random God-being servant: Are you sure?
Shor: Yes? I am Shor? How do you keep forgetting this?
God Servant: ¬_¬
Edit: I only noticed the word wall on my recent playthrough and thought it must've been for Alduin's unique fireball meteor storm ability. Either that or the mist shout (Ven Mul Riik) he uses perhaps in Sovngarde as again I believe that to be unique to him.
Sovngarde is so beautiful I remember the first time I played it I was so amazed by the sky and the amazing unique soundtrack Skyrim will always be one of my favorites if not my favorite game
So upon personal investigation, I've had several npc claim dragon born. Particularly the one pointed out in this video and a young blonde woman who wears the same ancient nordic armor. There's also a black bearded hero who I interacted with for several minutes until to my surprise I got a singal dialogue option that asks, "what do you do around here?" To which he responds, "I'm a bard. Trained at the bards collage in solitude. Wanderers like you should think about applying!" And then the optinal quest is added, 'Investigate the Bards College'
Then I'm given one more dialogue option "..." And the conversation ends, and he starts saying random things again when trying to interact with him.
The mysterious dragonborn could be a piece of Mirrak. Now here me out.
The dragonborn's soul like all dragons are a shard of Akatosh, a piece of a God. Mirrak was both mentally and physically corrupted by Mora.
But could a daedric prince really take control of a shard of Akatosh? Most likely not therefore I believe that mysterious dragonborn could be a piece of Mirrak that couldn't be corrupted, hence why you can still see him before defeating Mirrak.
No
This is a cool theory. Not something I'd accept as head canon, but it's fun.
@@onirione why not?
But that's all that Deadra do. They corrupt creation
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Akatosh isn't a creation in conversational means. There is no record of daedra corrupting an aidra.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The unknown Ancient Dovakin might be from Atmora. He may have been famous in his time, with many a song and book written about him. But those records were lost, frozen along with the rest of the continent to the north. If true it would be a chilling tale about the ephemeral nature of glory.
Gotta say, Sovngarde looks like a great afterlife.
Not much to do there but fight and feast though, sounds like a peace loving introvert's idea of hell.
You missed something, there's also a female Hero of Sovngarde who has the same "that honor is also mine" line, a second dragonborn. She starts out standing near the roasting oxes and has steel armor with the shoulderpads and an ancient nordic axe on her back.
"This guy has the feet and no shoes to fill"
Great line
I believe those statues are a representation of Shor (how he would look like) like the other daedra statues back in Tamriel. So if the theory of the dragonborn being the mortal version of Shor, it would make sense the statues constantly stare at their "master".
I find it humorous that the unknown DB looks a bit like Camel himself.
There are multiple dragon borne in Sovngard. I found the male dragonborn at the table in game, but also found a female dragonborn that was listed as a hero of sovngarde. Either Bethesda made this a throw away and rare line or there are two unsung dragonborn in Sonvgarde
Dude your content is insane. I'm about to delve into all your videos and audibly appreciate them
I thought you'd speak about the fact that you'll be welcomed in the afterlife in Sovngard by Tsun after you defeat Alduin whether you're a Nord or not, I think there's something to investigate there
The ebony warrior is a redguard that supposedly went to sovngarde after being defeated in combat by the dragonborn so it's not entirely unprecedented.
I've been using these videos to help myself fall asleep lately. Something about your voice and the rhythm of your sleep helps me relax and fall asleep and that is a really tough task, so thank you Camel
For the unknown dovakin... There are always heroes that have feats that history will change or not account for because they do not want to give that one glory... Or this hero did not wish for his fantastic feats to be recorded. I actually like heroes who do not want to stand before others more. He did his deed. That was enough of a reward for him.
I havent checked the like button for as many times as ive checked in this video to press it more, although ive done all i can to support you camel thank you especially in these hard times.
I’m happy to see this but sad it’ll be the last in the series for Skyrim
CCC apocrypha
I'm ready for oblivion and morrowind!
Wasn't the soul carin the "last" one?
Nope, he announced some more on his instagram
Well when TES 6 comes out he'll probably have some more so it's not really over so there's something to look forward to.
Could the unknown bird totem maybe be a raven? I know that ravens are a big part of Norse mythology (Odin has 2 ravens I think and were considered a sign) and since Skyrim's nords are based off Norse mythology. I dont know if ravens are big in Skyrim's lore or Elder Scrolls lore at large but I feel like I have definitely heard of ravens in Skyrim
And Odin used the ravens as his eyes that brought information from midgard to him so maybe the skyrim version of Odin would be the friend.
Camel: No animals is Sovngarde.
Kodlak: Am I a joke to you?
But he is only there if he has been cured of beast blood and thus is no longer a furry.
Khajiit and Argonian players: “YOU WOT M8”
Highground Lover They are not animals though, they are beast folk
37:00
"A dragonborn being born, is like Jesus returning" that line killed me
Since Sovergarde is a parallel to the Norse Valhalla, the birds could be a parallel to Ravens, of which Odin had two and Odin is the head of the Norse Pantheon in mythology.
But Skyrim already has a GODDESS who is represented as a bird.
It makes a lot more sense that it's a representation of Kyne, rather than a lame, and honestly lazy IRL reference.
@@Alizudo Notice that I said 'could be' not that it was. It was just a theory I had. And just because one is represented as a bird, doesn't mean it has to be the only one. The Egyptian Pantheon for example, has two that I can recall off the bat. Isis, who is sometimes represented by a sparrow and Thoth, who has the body of a man, but the head of an Ibis, which is a bird.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just a theory
All of these episodes and the way they're narated it's like you're listening to some amazing magical fairy tale i love it.
It feels like a decade or two since we've seen a curiosity from the curious 🐫
I found 3 Dragonborns in Sovngarde, the one Camel found and two lady Dragonborns I found. I talked to everyone in Sovngarde three times and only the 3 I mention ever said they were Dragonborn.
I dare anyone to run pass Tsun without talking to him first.
I did this...... I got fried
My personal theory is that the dragonborn we find in Sovngarde is Miraak's soul. Yes, I know Miraak became Hermeus Mora's champion, but my personal theory is that he died as a person, and reached Sovngarde, this means that the Miraak we find in the Dragonborn DLC is actually an undead commanded by Hermeus Mora, this would also explain why it's so easy for us to convert him with our thu'um.
Also why he becomes a skeleton when Mora has no use for him, he was just puppeteering a corpse?
Horrible theory
Mitten squad and camelworks uploading within minutes of eachother.
2020 might not be so bad after all
Oh How this ages terribly
Thanks lad, you used more words in this brief clip than I have had the privilege of hearing heard
all last year.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS
Nice Video and i have one Info for you.
If you go to Sovngarde in the Creation Kit and see who the throne belongs to, you will find 1 NPC name. Only this NPC can use this chair and the NPC is called TSUN.
So the throne is owned by Tsun.
Easter eggs on Easter Sunday, very classy.
Alternate theory on bird statues: Shor is based on various real world mythologies, including Zeus. One of Zeus's prominent totem animals is a goose.
I've missed these videos, such great writing, and soo many great puns!!
I find the unknown Dragonborn perplexing mostly for the reason that, to my understanding and interpretation, dov of all ilk return to Akatosh when their soul is finally destroyed, and otherwise will be bound to their remains eternally. Dragonborn emperors notwithstanding, we should otherwise still see Wulfarth at least (assuming his death during the Warp in the West was 'ordinary').
this will be an informing quarantine. thank youuuuuu
"Long has the *Storm Crown* (Something only a king wears) languished with no worthy brow to sit upon. By our breath we bestow it now to you in the name of Kyne, in the name of Shor, and in the name of Atmora of old. You are Ysmir (another name for Talos a possible embodiment of Shor) now, the Dragon of the North."- greybeard greeting to the dragonborn
Those in the Hall also seem to be omnipotent, as Jurgen knows how his the greybeards are doing he is pleased they are still following his ways so well.
If that mysterious dragonborn is shor in human form, playing it low and cool, it could also explain why we see no other dragonborn because you are they, the dragonborn gets reincarnated and since you are the latest version of course none of the others would be there. You are also the last, so you can take your final rightful place forever on Shors throne.
Kudos for releasing a video about Nord heaven on Easter.
Will you keep doing CCCs for other TES games? I'd love to see them for Morrowind and Oblivion.
I've been following you since forever ago, and I have to say your videos have allways been an absolute pleasure to watch. Every ounce of dedication and passion, every poetic turn of phrase in which the tale is spun, every cheesy wordplay joke... it all comes together in a hell of a time and a lot of smiling when I take a break from my own adventures. Keep up the good work, I'm Shor there is a place for you in Sovngarde for your great deeds ^^
The sheer concept of Sovngarde has always creeped me out. Sure, it would be nice to meet all of old nordic heroes and crack a cold one with them, feast and drink and sing songs. But what happens after? When you get bored from eternal partying in this pocket realm you can't escape. It never changes, it looks much finite to me. You are immortal, trapped in a place that doesn't imply you can do anything else but feast and fight, which becomes repetitive. You can't get any news, you can't have an adventure, you can't go anywhere. You're stuck, infinitely, in this feverish dream. And you can't die, either. Can't make it stop. So, what do you do? Drown in mead? Get lost in the mist? Yeah, sounds horrible to me.
Cool video, btw
A nord wants nothing but feasting and fighting, it seems, that you are not my kinsman!
That creeps you out because you ain't a proper Nord ya milk drinker
Guess that's what they want to do, but maybe there's some magical reason why you don't get bored of it.
Also im pretty certain they can see/ hear about whats goin on in mundus from sovngarde, because if I'm not mistaken when you arrive in the hall, ysgramor acts as though he knows of you, which implies somehow they have knowledge of the outside world from there
@@gpu213 That makes sense. Maybe also the area is so small because of the engine's restrictions, and in fact Sovngarde is a whole city where you can do bunch of stuff. Orrrr it's not, and it's just a prison where souls go mad eventually. Or maybe they get reincarnated after some time
Who knows. But it's still a scary concept, this Sovngarde of theirs.
@@cooljimbo12345 yeah, I'm not, lol Glory to the Mer!
Whenever I watch your videos I feel like I'm in 1600 listening to a Shakespeare play
"Sovereigngarde." xD
oh my gosh I freaking love all of these videos so much but yes that drove me nuts. SAW-VIN-GARD :b
I am so thankful for this channel really. I'm not trying to criticize something so meaningless in such an awesome video and channel. It's just a silly little thing that kept catching me off guard lol.
So glad you posted a video recently on Skyrim. As I’m in quarantine I’ve spent plenty of time revisiting the game and questing where I haven’t quested before. Thank you for this video!
The Sovngarde Dragonborn could be King Wulfharth. Also, he looks similar to the canon version of the Last Dragonborn seen in all of Skyrim's trailers, marketing, and merchandising.
No the default character is the default Male nord in the character creation menu
What? I always thought he had long, brown hair and a beard? Watch the trailer and even the live action one and they all look like that.
Wulfharth is also "technically" talos
He would've been labelled as Wulfharth then atleast. He is a well known dude, even Ysgramor was named. And there's no confirmation that wulfy was a dragonborn either just strong theories. And also the fact that he can't speak without causing an earthquake
These videos are so zen to me, I have them playing in the background all day as I'm doing things around the house. Your voice is calming and the puns are amazing!
The amount of puns in this video is staggering. There's still not enough.
Dude. I could listen to you talk about this for hours. So descriptive and with the imagery and diction, like damn.
Ah yes, the dragonborn, hypothesized as the legendary Shezzarine
*Is literally a loincloth masterchef*
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Nah bro
Perhaps the mysterious un-named Dragonborn is some lost hero of the past, and we just haven’t learned of his story yet. Similar to “the forgotten hero” from Th Elder Scrolls Legends.
It's already 11 PM when he uploaded this, but
WHO NEEDS SLEEP ANYWAY????
You say Sovngarde is only for Atmorans and Nords but the Ebony Warrior is Redguard and wants to go to Sovngarde!!!
Just giving my like and comment ❤ will watch when off work
me too! Hope you are done with it soon
Happy Easter !
I feel the blank word wall represents the call of valor shout, much like the one in the soul carin represents soul tear
"Stuhn, Totem of the Whale" comes from a very sloppy source: A sparkly ESO mount description. Which, considering how busy their loremaster usually is with quests, writing, and mapping content I highly doubt it was properly vetted.
It makes far more sense that the slain god of trials guards atop his totemic form's bones.
wow this is so relaxing and something i can actually listen to because i love skyrim, i’m gonna be watching these to fall asleep for a while! thank you
I can´t wait to get Curating Curious Curiosities about TES 6 some time in the future or even about TES 4 Oblivion! :D
I find myself watching and rewatching all these curating videos. Such masterpieces.
It might be possible that the unnamed hero - and Dragonborn - is actually… Talos?
Or Shore
Talos is himself a god, wouldn't he be in his own realm? Unless it is possible for aedra to visit other aedra like it for daedra
@@redfallxenos4585 Ruler in his own realm, visitor in Shor's. He will be recognized as a brave atmoran hero anyway.
Redfall Xenos If I’m remembering correctly, the way Talos became a god is by mantling Lorkhan. Basically, Tiber Septim became similar to Lorkhan in people’s minds (sacrificing himself in battle for the good of humanity), so he kind of turned into Lorkhan, while still being separate from him. So Talos being at least vaguely present in Sovngarde (afterlife made by Shor, the Nordic name for Lorkhan) would make a lot of sense. (Side note: People also say that by the end of Skyrim the Last Dragonborn also mantles Talos.) Edit: Hadn’t finished watching the video, Talos was a Shezzarine, as Camel says the Last Dragonborn might be.
I think you are meant to be a projection or aspect of Shor in the mortal world, much like Talos was himself.
It makes sense the Septims are not in Sovngarde as they were not Nords but Cyrodiilic. Even Tiber Septim was born in High Rock before being raised by Nords.
Camel when are you writing a book man, like damn.
Man the illusion you create with words is amazing and daunting, I’ll look into it but you should definitely write a book. You give the world a new light and it’s beautiful.
i thought this series ended! I'm so happy to have at least been a little wrong!