Professional Wrestling is Stupid and Beautiful and I Love it
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- I have resisted making a video about Wrestling for a long time. I am sorry.
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A Woman - Persona 5 OST
Sarah - Le Matos
In the Face of Evil - Magic Sword
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Fetus - Tekken 4 OST
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The thing that made me realize wrestling was fake is when Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero had a ladder match for custody of Rey Mysterio’s son.
I thought that's how everybody handles children custody tbh
🤣🤣🤣
I remember as a kid not understanding the stakes at all and thinking "what the fuck is happening"
i actually believed that stuff.... i actually thought randy orton killed undertaker back in 2005 or 2004 i think
GameTechツ, yeahhhhhh! as a kid I believed everything. I also thought triple H actually broke into Randy's home and threw me him out the window lmaooo
Oh god please , just start making videos narrating wrestling arcs
Heliot Cerrot this would be a fantastic idea, I'd love for him to narrate the entire story arc of Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels
yes please do this
Or Rock and Austin
The just finished Gargano and ciampa feud in NXT would be wonderful
Conor Spinks yes please
“Yes, it’s fake. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be honest.” Dang.
So true...while the story may be fake, there's nothing fake about a wrestler pile driving his opponent from the top of the cage 20 ft in the air during a cage match, that's honest and NOT fake!
@@KilledByThatTrain And if the opponent is constantly resisting?
some think its completely fake but imagine throwing yourself around, falling off ladders and getting hit in the back with legit steel chairs some of this stuff is next to impossible to do safely
@@Ticketman99You're the kind of guy that yells at a cinema about how fake the movie is, aren't you.
@@SparkShadow212 And you're the kind of guy that claims a movie is *completely real,* aren't you?
I love wrestling culture. Back in the day when reporters asked if it was fake, wrestlers would generally punch them and ask them if that felt fake lmao
Vader got put in a foreign jail for it once
And we don't speak of David Schultz
@@aiden4163 Jesus, I wonder how the recipient ended up. Even a body shot from Big Van Vader in his prime would probably have killed me but then I'm a scrawny-ass bastard even among scrawny-ass bastards.
I think it's something a lot people miss about the 'fakeness' - that, while most of the _big_ spots are carefully choreographed to do minimal damage assuming everything goes to plan, a lot of the shots are real and even some of the submissions, while modified enough to be tolerable, are still horrendously painful. The cross-face chickenwing is a prime example - that's basically an inverted kimura and, if you've never had a kimura put on you, yeah... go out of your way to avoid it if at all possible.
@@CobaltCruiser From what I saw on his DSOTR episode, David Schultz seems like a pretty humble guy who got screwed over while Hogan did similar things and got pushed to high heaven. He even had a brief stint as a bounty hunter.
Does Schultz still hold a grudge against Stossel? I know Stossel is still pissed.
jim dugan and sabuh had to shoot and fistfight because they got pulled by cops. old territorial wrestling are stuff of legends people do extremes for a living
Asuka: *violent sociopath, kicks people's heads off and laughs about it*
Also Asuka: *does surgery on her Kirby plushie, dances to green greens*
Kayfabe vs Real life, mein Friend.
Asuka: Most swagger of anyone in WWE.
Also Asuka: Big Mom energy.
Heyhey don't forget the fact she owns a hair salon!
Soup Soup Really?
Corey Lineberry Make Kayfabe Normal Again
Cool, guess I'll cry for these two men I just found out existed 10 minutes ago doing a sport I don't watch
Kenny Omega is a masterful story teller. Look up his rivalry with Kazuchika Okada, its the stuff of legends. Or if you prefer western style which involves more talking and building up tension through speech, take a look at Macho man and Miss Elisabeth. Or the tale of the undertaker. Or shawn michaels vs ric flair. Theres so much to be explored
TDSM 99 You sound pretty knowledgeable, do you know where you can watch the Japanese wrestlers’ matches?
Wow
SHAWN ALEXIS Thank you!! 🙏🏾
Roy Rogers Gotcha! I appreciate the tip, thank you!! 🙏🏾
It's just amazing when you're a kid and think it's all real.
Then, after the realisation it gets boring.
And after the NEXT realisation, when you start to see whats all behind the show and what the athletes have to endure... it gets amazing again.
Kinda similar to magicians. Or at least, when you put it like that, it reminds me of them .w.
I'm at the second point right now and I love it.
That's what I'm talking about!!
Cheers.
@sheepysnowtato824
Yeah, it is similar to magic in that way. The entertainment and appreciation stops being about the thing itself and more about the skill of the performers.
@@jossebrodeur6033 But you like the storytelling. Why would be different than the fighting in movies? We do know those are fake after all
"This is so goddamn dumb," I say, wiping a tear from my eye.
😂 i feel.your pain bro! I dont understand it either. I think it is just proof that we are very social creatures and at the end of the day we just want to have that one person to confide end.
Most fans over the age of 10 know it's scripted so it always amuses me when non fans think they're blowing your mind when they tell you it's "fake".
It's like theatre. Theatre where massive dudes smack the shit out of eachother.
The live action anime, that doesn't butcher the source material
Those smartypants "blowing your mind" with the fakeness reveal often miss an obvious fact : it's less tedious and really easyer to smack the gob of your opponent than it is to bluff your fight without hurting your opponent AND selling it. It requires higher technique and finesse to roll each punchs, synchronise movements in order to soften a "hard" fall or not be cruched by a power bomb or a piledriver. The obvious statement to oppose to " it's fake" is : " The performance is real and the entertainment too."
It still blew my mind when my bf who is a hardcore MMA fan told me they were staged. I always thought wrestling was a real sport but now I’m starting to get into it because of all the fantastic storylines :)
@@madmoonrabbit Exactly. Wrestling used to be easy to sell because the wrestlers were either legit fighters pretending or they were pretenders who knew enough about real fighting to "fake it." And with bigger guys it was easy to mask some of that stuff. Goldberg flattening someone with a spear looked just as real as Kurt Angle trying to break someone's ankle. Nowadays these performers do a bunch of goofy shit and then grab a headlock and "rest" with it.
@@madmoonrabbit Could you point me in the direction where this is not a performance requiring technique, stamina and a huge amount of work. As i said it's a perfomance. Even scripted it's a performance requiring two ( or more) people to work together without hurting themself ( badly enough to quit on medical leave or worse). Also, Wrestling is traditionnally grappling with occasional slap contest. The primary goal is not to KO your oponent the fastest. If you follow that route, i wonder if you watch action movies and enjoy them ...
The golden lovers story line was so fuckin anime that I feel like I need to read the manga to fully grasp it.
Edit: thanks for all the likes.
one thing that I say as a wrestling fan is that it is pretty bloody anime, like it could very easily be a shonen anime and I often view it as if I were an anime (just it's a mix of real and kayfabe like the video describes)
😂😂😂😂
That's why we got Tiger Mask W, which was Kota Ibushi, one half of the Golden Lovers
Isaac Clodfelter Lmao
Kenny Omega is one of the fucking best wrestlers out there. I need to start watching New Japan Pro Wrestling
I know the video came 3 years ago but for those who are interested, The Golden Lovers Saga is still not over in 2021 :
The reunion shown in this video took place early 2018 and shortly after, Omega and Ibushi started a fight with two particular members of Bullet Club : The Young Bucks. Young Bucks are twins who are very close to Omega and they felt that Omega betrayed them for Ibushi, so they had a 2vs2 fight which was incredibly emotional and during the match, Omega was torn between his friendship towards Ibushi and Young Bucks. At the end, Kenny Omega and Kota Ibushi won the match and everyone realised at the end that all the conflict wasn't worth and that everyone could co-exist together.
So after the match Kenny,Ibushi and the Bucks formed "The Golden Elite" a group based on Omega's friends.
But... not everyone liked that, remember that everyone was still part of the Bullet Club, a group of supposed merciless and disrespectful group of outsiders who were sick of this "friendship bullsh*t" and then a civil war started between The O.G Bullet Club and the Golden Elite. The O.G Bullet Club thought that the Golden Elite didn't belong anymore in the Bullet Club.
But then in 2019 something happened in real life :
A billionaire named Tony Khan with the help of Cody Rhodes wanted to start his own wrestling company named AEW, so they recruited top-tier talents like Chris Jericho, Omega, the Bucks and many more... But not Ibushi...
Kenny Omega was IWGP World heavyweight champion at the time so he had to lose his title before coming to AEW. Ibushi stayed in NJPW and Omega left to AEW...
With the two separated, they went back to solo and Ibushi was one of the fan favorite to win the G1 Climax of the year 2019.
But the interesting thing is that every time that Ibushi wins a match and adress the NJPW crowd, he kept saying the same thing over and over : "I won't quit, I won't lose, I won't abandon you."
You can CLEARLY see that this has a subtext, and that this sentence is a message send indirectly to Kenny Omega.
You can feel that Ibushi felt deeply betrayed by Omega who signed in another company and that he cared about him way more that he will ever admit.
At the same time, Omega indirectly showed that he moved on and that the Golden Lovers is over.
Now that they are in different companies, nothing big happened between Omega and Ibushi, they both became World Champions of their own companies (even if Ibushi eventually lost his championship). But sometimes, you can still feel that they care about each other by using each other moves.
We are in 2021, Golden Lovers are separated, Omega is in America, Ibushi is in Japan. COVID makes it difficult to reunite the team, but we, wrestling fans still hope that the two will meet each other in the ring again. Are they still friends ? How is Ibushi feeling about Omega now ? We don't really know. The story is still evolving and I can't wait for the two to be reunited again.
EDIT : July 13th 2023 They just announced, they will reunite next week ! 😭😭😭
I hope they fight each other for one last time and finish this saga.
You're missing one sad and important element. Kota would have come. When Kenny spoke to Kota about AEW before it began Kota told him that he had things he still wanted to accomplish in NJPW. Kenny took that as the end of the conversation and didn't bring it up again. A year later Kota was asked about it by a fan and he told the fan "He never asked me to come, if he had asked I would have come".
The Young Bucks are not twins. Matt is 4 years older.
You're right, I didn't know the time I was writing the comment. It is quite interesting to see it again because right now October 2022, Omega and Ibushi are both suspended by their own companies and they both took the time to see each other again. It was quite wholesome.
oh yes i am sure the golden “lovers” are really good “friends” 🤭🌈
It’s been 3 years since this video was posted, and it’s been three years since I got obsessed with wrestling. Thank you so much for introducing me to one of my passions!!
And it’s been 3 years of crying for me
Undertaker fan aswell i see ahaashahaha
RKbro 420
BASED
As someone who fell in love initially with taker and kanes storyline in 98 its really magical observing someone else experience what i did.
wrestling is anime
Yes, thats why there is such a big crossover between Wrestling fans and Anime fans.
That's kinnkakuman
tiger mask...
Tiger mask W
Sphere Hunter!
I cried listening about the golden lovers storyline wtf
ON GOD LMAOO
Now I want to go back and watch every match in the saga.
Me too lol
Same here
I also didn't expect it to be so deep wtf
I never got into wrestling, but the way you portrayed the tale of the Golden Lovers actually had me tearing up. Bravo.
They aren't Wrestlers they're Pro Wrestlers
@@KingNerdius just stop
@@general2710 nah
@@KingNerdius no one thinks you're clever, touch some grass
Watching this, and it's funny to think there was a time when TRIPLE H was held down by backstage politics.
Oh how the tables turn 😂
@@mananwashere well as his awesome theme would say It his time
@@painvillegaming4119 it's been 15 years and his time hasn't ended
@@counter-ex can’t keep a good legend down
Well now it really is his time love you papa h
The choreography of the Golden Lovers was legitimately talented and beautiful, god. That final fight could be turned into a show in itself, man oh man.
I actually got tears with him using "that move."
Clemps the man the myth 😀
Similar to Obi-Wan vs Maul in Rebels.
I don't even watch wrestling but I cri everitim...
Clemps watches wrestling??? nice
Adrian sandoval My boiiiiii
God, the ending of the Golden Lovers section gets me every time.
Good story, wis we could get one in mortal combat.
@@promisnwekenta9703 you forgot the K in combat
Its truly a shame we can't get a story this good In mortal Kombat
I legit cried
Ikr? I cried everytiem
It's hilarious that this emotional and well acted story involves Kenmy Omega who notably has made an entrance to the ring as SANS FROM UNDERTALE
I remember being a child and being completely captivated by Pro Wrestling whenever my grandpa turned it on. He always got scolded for exposing me to such violence at a young age but I remember I wasn’t captivated because of the violence. Even as a child I felt the emotions portrayed to me but I just couldn’t comprehend why I loved it much less communicate that to my family.
Thank you papa for secretly letting me watch and I’m sorry I didn’t know how to stand up for you when you were scolded
“I’m sorry”. “I love you”. I lose it every time. I see that.
time stamp???
@@trashtrash2169
13:32 Although the "I love you" part gets cut off.
To be fair, it helps that Kenny Omega and Shinsuke Nakamura are basically real life anime characters
Razzrazz90 hehehe
You got a point.
Razzrazz90 Kenny looks like Dio with Brian Pillman's theme
Razzrazz90 still convinced that shinsuke is a joestar
Didn’t expect to come out of this crying for a sport I’ve never watched and two people I’ve never seen, but the Golden Lovers’ story made me shed tears.
As somebody obsessed, borderline addicted to stories being told in unconventional methods, you've just convinced me to become a wrestling fan
Time to find a favorite and watch it all
Curios of what came of this. Who did you pick for your favourite?
i am also curious as well.
Same
I hope it was New Japan!
"I'm sorry, I love you." That moment...I don't even fucking watch wrestling, but that moment still makes me want to cry.
Nice, that's real emotion.
Cecil Palmer this. This was the moment in my life I became a fan.
What match is that?
Shawn Micheals vs. Ric Flair WrestleMania 24
Seriously I had been away from wrestling for years and I still teared up during that match.
Even though I have never watched wrestling, you made me cry with the Golden Lovers story line. Very well done!
TheGamerMaldito There's a more in depth video essay on the Golden Lovers it by Showbuckle if you're interested
it got me too. good music choice / editing / awesome storytelling. it's why I love sew
If you are curious about where the golden lovers and Bullet Club go from here, here is a little summery.
The story is amazing and does not end there, it will continue as wrestling is like one long anime that never ends, currently there is a war going on within the bullet club with two sides, Team Kenny Omega and team Cody Rhodes and now with the reunion of the golden lovers, the bullet club war has become more tragic as Kenny is reunited with Kota Ibushi but the brothers who still care for kenny are being left in the dark and in the middle of this war.
ua-cam.com/video/u_hA03k1AOk/v-deo.html
^^
This is a link to a recent match of the golden lovers having to fight two of Kenny Omegas best friends and brothers he has known for years and it is a great match but can be a sad and hard match to watch at times as its tragic seeing former brothers having to go to war.
Bullet Club also have their own youtube channel of funny skits that have now turned into dark and tense continuations of the continuation of the Bullet Club war. The Bullet Club war seems to be coming to a boiling point on April 7th at ROH Supercard of Honor with Cody facing Kenny Omega in a one on one match, this seems to be where it will all conclude but we will never really know as it is hard to predict.
If you want to catch up quickly on whats been going on to the lead of up to this, watch the episodes of Being the Elite from episode 90 onwards to 99 which should be posted on Monday. This is to get a better understanding on whats going on roughly in a short format. Link is bellow
ua-cam.com/video/q08Ik2tiE2k/v-deo.html
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TheGamerMaldito same I’ve never cared about it. I still don’t think I will get into the sport but this video helped open my eyes to why someone would. It’s essentially the same as me loving anime. Yes, it’s not real but, that doesn’t matter it’s the narrative. Once again eyepatch you out did yourself again. Thank you for another top notch and well researched video.
There's only ever been two things that have made me cry in wrestling, the first was MJF outpouring to CM Punk during their rivalry only to use it as a trap when I so desperately wanted some shred of good to be inside of the former, and your retelling of the Golden Lovers' arc.
Did you catch MJF in this video at 7:18? Security guard for Samoa Joe. :)
Then you never saw the Mark Henry salmon suit retirement promo thinking he was being genuine
When the Golden Lovers hugged I got full body chills, holy hell
I actually teared up during the Golden Lovers Story Line...
Hypno-Thorax Teared up? You’re stronger than me - I fucking cried. Damn SEW edited that music to video just right to wreck me.
D. GMan Same xD wrestling is more anime than it has any right to be
Me too!! I cried
Like tears of fucking joy!!
I did too. I'm over here playing with legos with my daughter and I had to take a moment to compose myself. If the cliffnotes version could get to me this bad, I don't even wanna know how deep in the feels I would be watching the whole saga.
When you can trick wrestling fans, who know it's all fake, into thinking that something might be real, or at least, give them that second of doubt, those are the moments I love wrestling.
phoenixsplash135 Then there's the legit heartbreaking things... Like Jerry Lawler having a heart attack live on camera.
The Miz on Talking Smack is a perfect example. So many people couldn’t tell if his promo was a shoot, work, or a work-shoot, cause he sounded and looked so angry and emotional.
But usually it isn't, most of the time it goes on for too long and you have silly kick outs
cm punks pipe bomb
It's not all fake you are an imbecile
At the end, when I heard you were starting the Golden Lovers story I screamed in excitement.
It was my favourite story arc of all wrestling because it’s so beautiful and powerful.
(Huh, where are all of the 110 likes coming from?)
I worked security at the WWE performance center for 6 months. I met all the wrestlers and even chatted with them all together. It’s a show yes…. But the sense of community between them was fascinating and very positive.
The Golden Lovers saga is unironically a better love story than anything Hollywood has made in the past 10 years
So we just gonna forget about Paul Blart:Mall Cop?
@@ramen947 that's a masterpiece beyond compare. It doesn't count nothing else would come close
You’re so right…wow.
To snowflakes it is
@@RickyBobby42069 Aww, someone's feeling insecure about two beautiful men kissing, huh?
I appreciate the fact that you called pro wrestling "Physical Theater". It's really a great way to wrap it up in two words.
I would always say live theatre with an athletic edge bur physical theater is much better lol
I've literally never been into wrestling and yet I've been binging your wrestling videos. man I CRIED when the golden lovers embraced and I will do it again
Wrestling is basically a shakesperian play with epic fight scenes and story arcs happening in real time.
19:53 is the timestamp if you're just here to rewatch the golden lovers breakdown
Thank you magic person
tysm c:
:)
Lol thank you
It's been 3 years and every once in a while I come back here just to relive that saga. It's one of the best stories in wrestling history.
"This is not actually an evil voodoo priest..." okay, I'm listening..lol
What?
That isn´t that weird in wrestling, i mean a 53 year´s old undead satanic priest its going to be in wreseltmania this year
Trevor Cutler I mean Papa Shango also was the Godfather who basically was a pimo
Dude wtf? Papa Shango would later engineer The Ho Train?!?!?!
Jinsoul's Fish yes, he also loved the gimmick
i dont know who you are but i fucking love you legit the best undertaker description ever
Wow I don’t know why but the golden lovers literally deserve a godamn award for the story they put on. I mean just seeing clips and having someone narrate the story has me extremely engrossed in the story. I mean it was like a genius plot of some action movie, amazing work by both of them.
I love how he keeps saying "I know it's weird to like wrestling" meanwhile I'm here with my eyes sparkling listening to him talk about these gripping and engaging stories
I'm not surprised someone into shonen anime is into wrestling.
They're basically the same thing structurally. With more open terminology to describe it.
WWE is shonene, NJPW is seinen
What would Lucha underground be then? Shoujo?
Basically.
Josei, thank you very much.
creamgravy1 dude did you see ultima lucha 3? That shit had more gore and broken bones than a chapter of berserk. Seinen all the way
The more you think about it, the more you slowly realize modern day wrestling is closer to a shōnen anime than a sport. Wolf really hit that point on the head. Good job mate.
Wrestling's been like that since the 80's. And really the 70's.
Wrestling Fanatic Bernkastel I would say mid 80s the 70s were all about blood baths and making fights look as real as possible so main offense was really just stiff punches
Pro wrestling is my favorite anime.
This video perfectly encapsulates pro wrestling and why I love it. At its root it is storytelling and the development of both people and characters.
True
This is, by far, the best explanation of professional wrestling
That last story is a fucking legit love story dude.... I was expecting them to get married at the end
issa osama that’s the great thing about wrestling and rumours are both of them are Bi so there is a genuine love between them even further blurring the lines between fiction and reality
The story is still going. That's one of the magic of wrestling: when done right, it can make great stories last for years.
Brody Read if anything happens and they get together let me know I am shipping this hard.
Kenny Omega commented on it recently
“If LGBT people can identify with our story, if they think ‘the Golden Lovers are my team,’ I’m good with that. It’s the story of two wrestlers who shared dreams on their way up, who became fast friends, who are now reuniting at the top of their game.”
The Golden Lovers story was so beautiful. I'm sad I only heard about it now.
ultimaT There's a more in depth analysis on the Golden Story by the youtuber Showbuckle. It's extremely good
Its still going, thats the beautiful thing about wrestling, it never ends its one long narrative with multiple stories going on at once that change over time.
And there's even more bits to it, like Kenny's friends (who are also fan favorites) in Bullet Club being jealous of Ibushi, leading to an amazingly emotional match (Golden Lovers vs Young Bucks)
Cody - the one who attacked Ibushi and then Kenny before Ibushi made the save - trying to take over Bullet Club and turn everyone against each other.
Jay White, being there as a Young Lion (or a trainee seen on the left at 24:56) at the start of it, to being the person who kicked off the down fall of Kenny's leadership Bullet Club (26:29).
The original members of the bullet club watching the chaos between the newer members likely biding their time before striking themselves.
And that's just parts! This storyline is so entertaining and heartwrenching.
Im sad i didnt see it from when it started to when it ended
They switched hair colors by the end
Fans who have been watching for years: "Hey there! Can I help you?"
People who know the great mystery that wrestling is fake: "I know more than you."
17:08 I never knew _this_ was the origin of "The Game". Triple H has the greatest revenge story in and out of kayfabe ever. This is a 30 year story of a guy who was dicked over by his boss and proceeded to knock up the boss's daughter and become a major player in the company.
What do you mean wrestling isn't anime?
KnightCrown New Japan is an anime. It has subs but not dubs though, phew.
You beat me to it.
myanimelist.net/anime/37007/Hinomaruzumou
God Dame it.......I was so close
I kinda wanna see dubs. In german.
Whenever someone says "Wrestling is fake." I reply with "So is porn, but you probably think that's real, don't you?"
What a wise sentence.good job.
smart
Brilliant
Red Flag eh arguable, sometimes wrestling turns into porn
@@wavyiann9788 you might have a point there...
Pro wrestling is an art form. Some people just don’t get it
Dude...it's hard to explain wrestling to people, but you just did it with ease, I'm jealous
This is the first time hearing about Omegas and Ibushis relationship and storyline...I almost busted into tears 😭
Me too, I almost cried
bro i cried like a lil bitch ngl
I did 😭😭😭
duude I'm watching this in the living room hoping as hell nobody would bust out from their rooms and catch my eyes glistening like a bitch watching a video about wrestling
I don't even watch wrestling and that got me teary and sentimental. It's just wonderful.
So you are telling me... Wrestling is serious meta real life anime before all those things were cool?
Andres Arancio exactly.
In a sense, yes. Wrestling fans were weebs before weebs were a thing.
Well not exactly anime, i like to call it man-opera. It's a form of art. It's drama, comedy, action in one. And also there are some pretty good looking female wrestlers. It's unlike anything else. IT'S WRESTLING!
one of my best friends wanted someone he could be close with and talk about wrestling with. i'm a 21 year old woman that knows nothing about wrestling. my friend assigned me this video as "homework" after i told him i'd get into it so he could have someone talk to. phenomenal video. he is a big fan of the golden lovers, and now i understand why. thanks for this! very informative :)
please please please, do more of these. You make these storylines so impactful they're a wonder to watch
The whole "wrestling is fake, so it's bad" line of thinking never made any sense to me. It's like watching the play Hamlet and getting upset when you find out that the actors aren't really dead.
Loser's Club Wrestling is weird, but when it's good it's fucking awesome
I've never been a fan, personally, but that's just me. I hate when people act like it's a dumb thing to be into, just because it's not real. I think it's really dumb and childish to put people down for what people like, especially for such a random and insignificant reason.
It's because it's presented like a real sport
It's moreso the fact wrestling presents itself as real, and people either don't see the point in watching it since it's all show or they find something else to like about it.
It kind of _has_ to pretend that it's real, because it makes it so much easier to suspend disbelief that way. Personally, I feel like it's the same as any other show or film not reminding the audience that what they're watching is fake, but I can see how other people would disagree with that. I mean, I'm totally fine with someone disliking it because it's not their thing (obviously, as it's not actually my thing, either), but I think it's a bit silly to get hung up on that point *exclusively,* you know?
"and these two people don't really hate each other"
Well I mean, sometimes they do.
Brock hates everyone
Iron Shiek famously hated pretty much everyone in the business except "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan (which is hilarious as they were in-ring sworn enemies) and Bruno Sammartino, both of which were close friends of his.
OH LOL, Akira Maeda whole careers
lol michaels and hart
Macho Man and Hulk
I've struggled to understand wrestling when I've tried to watch with friends, but I now realize it's because I'm faceblind - I didn't realize how important it is to be able to not only tell the two wrestlers apart in one match but to remember their names and stories and histories. I could do this with a lot of work, with someone to explain it to me, or if it wasn't live-action. I was wondering why I couldn't get into it like everyone else but now I realize. I guess wrestling is just not for me. I enjoyed this and the Golden☆Lovers segment was very touching. If I could experience that sort of story when watching instead of having it told to me, I would be very into it. Looks like you have a few more vids on the topic so I'll have to listen to those too.
you may like the UA-cam channel Wrestling Bios. he tells summarized versions of different storylines and wrestlers' careers.
Thank you for using our song on 20:04
Legit man tears at the end of the golden lovers story. I didn’t even watch it happen over the years. I watched a guy with a magical voice tell me about it online and i was more invested in it than some shows I’ve been watching since my childhood.
Ze-TopHat-Gamer and another thing about wrestling is that that's not the end. It keeps going in both wrestlers lives
Wrestling at its absolute best can do even more...
Ze-TopHat-Gamer respect
And the best part it is that he didn't even the young bucks' equally tight connection to Kenny and how all of that played out .And also the little detail of the greatest series of matches in wrestling history the tetralogy of Okada and Omega
Golden Lovers made me lose. I'm tearing up here.
Those fucking onion ninjas man....
Showbuckle has a fantastic video on the Golden Lovers stroyline too :)
I need a Golden Lovers movie now. They are so beautiful together, and their storyline/character arcs are Perfect.
God damn! Koda and Omega’s story genuinely brought a tear to my eyes. Beautiful. Simply beautiful!
I love how in a channel, so smart and diverse already, talking from silent hill 2, to what makes a hero good, to samurai jack, you go even further out of your already established fan base. You talk about something you enjoy, and as you said in the opening “it isn’t for everybody.” But you did it because you want too, and I love that, thank you super eyepatch wolf, thank you.
The best part is, he makes such good videos, that his fans are willing to listen to whatever he talks about, even if they're not actually interested in the subject matter, which in turn, might end up actually making them interested by the end of it :P
Honestly the fact that wrestling is fake, makes it 900x more appealing to me
Ivy Ridenhour Same. I just feel more comfortable knowing the people are most likely gonna be all right and not suffer mayor blood and teeth loss
Galador No they do suffer major blood loss, look up what happened to Eddie Guerrero after he bladed to deep and bled to the point he literally went into shock.
Varg Vikernes yeah that was back then, you‘re right. That stuff happens very rarely tho
Galador That's an extreme case, yes but they're still bleeding. And it wasn't rare in ECW, and still isn't in CZW
Varg Vikernes czw aint wrestling for me
The storytelling aspect of wrestling finally explains to me the charm behind Kengan Ashura and Kengan Omega
I've watched this video an ungodly number of times but 27:20 still gets me to tear up. Incredible storytelling
I literally cryed while listening to Golden Lovers's story. I barely knew about wrestling and I wasn't a fan, but I think I'll become one. Also the fact that it's fake actually gives me some relief because all that violence is not as unhealthy and critique as it could be if this was real battle. And this is so beautiful.
Well no most of the moves that won't just straight up kill you are real and actually preformed, but most other things are scripted. That's the key word to gain the respect of so many wrestling fans: "Scripted"
@@peoplelegend8476 ahh
actually some spots are seriously painful and the worst part is when people are trying to hurt opponents on purpose as a form of punishment, which is seriously messed up. i think the best wrestling is from japan which is much different than american. definitely try it out!
@@peoplelegend8476 exactly that's what amazes me! You have to have much more skill to do smth on purpose than by mistake. I mean... I think u got it. 😂
@@vladagherman3255 Yeah, the amount of precision it takes to make sure not to injure your opponent or yourself with just about every single move you use is unbelievable!
Holy shit! When I hear it narrated back to me The Golden Lovers’ story arc sounds like Naruto and Sasuke. Just with Naruto as the one who goes to the dark side instead.
- Innate talent vs hard work
- One feels he’s being left behind by the other because the other is rising in power and fame
- After significant losses, he leaves his friend and joins a dark organisation/faction
- he gains so much power with his faction that he even turns on his master/leader (AJ vs Orochimaru)
- he has to be brought back to the good side (after a time skip) once that faction is dead or has abandoned him
- Once together again, the two revolutionise the world in which they are a part of
Talented pure guy and bitter guy who had to work for everything sounds more like Goku/Vegeta to me. Except the return to the dark side for Vegeta was brief and solo. Not with a team.
Thank you for portraying the Golden Lovers story with the respect and dignity it deserves. Kenny and Ibushi told one of the most beautiful stories I've ever seen and I'm glad so many people who don't even watch wrestling get to experience those same emotions
Every time someone asks me why I still like wrestling even though I'm now in my 40's I sit them down and we watch this video and they understand. Thank you for this. Thank you so so much
I honestly never understood the whole "wrestling is just real life anime" joke until now.
It’s basically JoJo just more undressed.
@@Ballin4Vengeance well person are actually involved fighting each other like other shounen anime. Not like sex dolls fighting for their masters in Jojo.
Wrestling is live action anime.
Ben Harlan especially if the interviews are in japanese and there are subs lol.
Hug me, fellow NJPW fan.
Hehe
Good onec
Pretty much lol
What if anime is 2d animated wrestling?
one of the most hard core kayfabe breaking moments was punk in HHH face "this isnt cm punk vs triple H. Its Phil Brooks vs Paul Levesque" the fact they allowed that was insane and his mic getting cut was part of the story at that point
I don't like all wrestling. I was really close to quitting watching before seeing Tetsuya Naito. I love his story from Statdust Genius to Los Ingobernables to where he is now. That 6+ year journey from winning G1 climax 2013 through beating Okada at Wrestle Kingdom in 2020 was awesome. He is my absolute favorite.
In all honesty (to me at least) hating wrestling "because it's fake" is kinda unfair if your a movie or tv lover.
Basically it the same thing as a movie but with different format of storytelling.
Hating wrestling "because it's fake" is more due to a misunderstanding of what it's meant to be. As this video points out, if you confuse wrestling for a "competition" or "sport" then it would make sense to hate it. It would be angering to find out that the World Cup/Olympics/High school basketball/etc. (competitions) are all scripted with predetermined outcomes. You have to understand it's fake and get into the wrestlers as characters to enjoy it.
@@vlo4829 Then you get people like Lance Storm who keep saying "pro wrestling is a sport".
What now?
Aqua and Lucy Yeah, it's a live shooting of a movie with practical effects only 😂
Graeme Williams a pretend sport, if you paid attention to the video.
why am I crying over a Wrestling documentary?
Lord Warryl because brother... You finally understand what wrestling actually is.. Welcome
Tablón thank you brother
Because it's a really good story, and SuperEyePatchWolf is easily one of the best storytellers on UA-cam. At least, that's why I'm crying over a wrestling documentary.
Becouse you should.
You need more of these videos. Watched all four of them.
28:35 Yeah, I think I will be using this quote for the rest of my life. "Yes, it's fake. But that doesn't mean that it can't be honest. It doesn't mean it's stories can't be about real things that we can all relate to."
I never understood why the fact that wrestling isn't real automatically makes it bad, people say "if you want to watch a fight go watch UFC" those people clearly don't understand people don't watch wrestling for a real fight, everyone knows it's not real, we enjoy it for the performance, the art form. Movies and TV series aren't real and they are considered art, why not wrestling?
I have to agree. Not going to lie, I cannot watch wrestling. I AM that MMA/UFC/Pride/WEC/K-1/etc. fan, lol. Thing is, you are correct; its clearly a narrative being played out through the wrasslers, in the ring. Anyone that says they dont recognize that is flat out lying and just not wanting to be honest with themself.
So respect to wrestling. You guys do you!
And what's worse is when some people saw the competitive wrestling, they're quick to dismiss it as boring hugging contest. It's like wrestling can't catch a break just because it's not as beautiful as kung fu
@AGASTHYA I feel ya, my dude. And I 100% agree. People are just too fucking fake in their criticisms and the way they represent themselves when it comes to shit like wrestling. I mean, yeah, there is a rehearsed aspect to it. Just like theres a rehearsed aspect to every single thing that is on network or non-network TV, full stop. I don't understand why folks can't just STFU with their "Wrasslin is fake" shit and let the fans be fans.
Much love from America,
Stay healthy and stay safe :D
@@antokarman2064 yeah and they fail to recognize that wrestlers actually get injured for real. Undertaker has had surgeries on almost every damn bone in his body and Jeff Hardy and Mick Foley are something else as well but non wrestling fans pretend that everything around wrestlers is made of styrofoam and they never actually get injured
It's not that it makes it bad, it's that people are confused by the pointlessness of why you would slow, fake fight between giant men who are terrible actors wearing spirit Halloween masks. These videos are well done, but wrestling itself to people who aren't born into it is like, an assault on dignity and intelligence. It's dudes who look like a bunch of hams in kneepads stomping as a dude in work boots punches his own hand four inches from their head. The fighting being fake isn't the issue, it's that it's so fake that it's not entertaining
The Unreal Story of Professional Wrestling said it best: We're not Romans throwing people to lions. Let's take some solace that we prefer our violent modern day gladiator matches to be make believe.
Then WHY THE FUCK would you EVER believe that your "gladiators" are legitimately better fighters than ACTUAL FIGHTERS?!
@@Ticketman99 No dude that's not the point. We the wrestling fans prefer watching wrestling. We want to escape from pure reality by immersing ourselves in a world of stories called "Wrestling." We want to invest in storylines and characters because they entertain us and they touch our emotions. Coliseum fights back in the days of the Roman Empire are just pure carnage and bloodshed with little to no creative storylines behind those fights. Ancient gladiators just fucking fight and kill each other. And the modern-day combat sports such as MMA, Boxing, Kickboxing, and etc. don't really have the magic that wrestling has because wrestling tends to have more creative storylines than combat sports. Also, wrestling allows us to see crazy spots such as AJ Styles doing a 450 splash to Dean Ambrose through a table, Moxley performing a suplex on Omega through a bed of barbed-wire, Mick Foley being thrown off the steel cage and onto the announce table by The Undertaker, and etc. Meanwhile, combat sports can sometimes get boring especially when you just see actual fighters humping each other on the ground and/or moving around the cage/ring without throwing that much strikes.
The thing is, wrestling fans prefer watching the magic of wrestling as it allows them to immerse themselves in wonderful and multi-layered fantasies that combat sports obviously don't have. They prefer seeing matches that are driven by unique stories and creative characterization. They want to be able to sort of connect to the wrestlers and feel their stories.
@@AMG-ko3gt Wrestling, but there's less actual wrestling than MMA lmao
You people say you want wrestling yet your dumbass cheers for _strikes,_ _gymnastics_ and _jiu-jitsu_ 🤣😔🤦
Is Drew McIntyre a better actual fighter than Brock Lesnar? Is anyone on the NXT roster a better actual fighter than Matt Riddle? If you have answered "yes" to these questions, then stop being a "smark"
By the way, just because someone does flips doesn't make them wrestlers.
Call it what Vince McMahon called it to escape state athletic commissions: sports entertainment.
P.S: the point of my post is because we have people like you who would say that Kenny Omega can defeat Daniel Cormier.
P.P.S: don't EVER request for a storyline to "make sense" ever again.
@@Ticketman99 the problem is we never said yes you dumbfuck
@@firmanchristiansianturi4794 The problem is that you _have_ said yes...you dumbfuck.
You really gonna tell me that entitled assholes like yourself never said that your favorite indy flavor of the month is a better actual wrestler/fighter than *actual wrestlers/fighters?*
Fuck outta here
This is one of the most beautifully put together videos and the title oddly suits it. It is stupid and beautiful and I fucking love it ! Thanks for putting this together 🙏🏿
This video single handedly got me back into wrestling and introduced me to Asuka three years ago.
MFW when a anime channel does a better video on explaining Pro Wrestling then most Pro Wrestling channels.
Spider-Zero he likes pro wrestling multiple times on his twitter
Pro wrestling channels not named Showbuckle or Real Neat Puro, obviously.
There are many wresltign channels, the problem is those channels are for people that know they love wrestling, this video is for people that only see men in underwear fighting for a belt, a honest and clear exposition to those who might doubt.
Those channel are not for noobs
Spider-Zero yeah what cultures pretty bad at it.
*shows clip of Shawn Michaels*
"genuinely heartbreaking"
Ha! I see what you did there.
im sorry i love you
Both Piper and Bret are such amazing storytellers, who would have guessed that they came up with how that match at Wrestlemania was gonna down in one night at a diner?
Also to show how much Bret Hart knew about wrestling psychology and storytelling, he was an instrumental piece in getting Steve Austin in the WWF, he would practically hound Vince in picking him up, and the rivalry and matches they had together were awesome.
I was straight depressed for a month after Eddie passed away! The amount pain I gone through cannot explain through words. WWF/WWE is life♥️. I will be watching forever until I die.
April Fools is International Liar Day to me.
EyepatchWolf just dropped a video about one of the most personal truths he has.
You, Sir, get a new Patron.
Sambou Jaiteh yeah??? how much you gonna give
reaper Green their first born child
reaper Green Idk. I’m not rich, so probably $5 a month or something.
Sambou Jaiteh cool dude he deserves it
What if I told you... You can like anime, wrestling, video games, and MMA all at the same time and not shit on people who like one or some of them.
StrangerX9 then you are a prophet
I prefer Glory Kickboxing myself, I feel the grappling in UFC greatly slows the pace of the fight and often they are just stuck in a stalemate on the ground without actually grappling
HERESY !!!
Hi! VSauce here!
StrangerX9 that’s basically me (expect mma to an extent) wrapped up in a shell
Always go back to this whenever I wanna here someone mark out to the Golden Lovers. Those two really are legendary. Also, Kenny in a Princess Jasmine outfit for Halloween is peak bi culture.
I did come to this video expecting to find a new appreciation to wrestling as an art form but I did not expect to be emotional over a story about two gay wrestlers doing an enemies to lovers speedrun then getting pulled apart only to finally face each other and get back together again I'm screaming here. also lowkey having a little crush on Kanako Urai.......
I'm crying with The Golden Lovers thing and I don't even care about wrestling holy shit.
Try the Undertaker story in WWE, that one is nearly 30 years.
That's wrestling. Its beautiful. Most people just choose to discredit it.
The storylines are really powerful, it's a narrative. It's a shame I can't get into the actual matches though - half the time they just stand around and do nothing, and that kinda destroys it for me. Then again, I guess it's the equivalent of whole DBZ episodes just being verbal taunting?
@@umbaupause uh New Japan wrestlers don't just stand around. They fuck each other up!
@@umbaupause Depends on the performer and the company. I can recommend some faster paced matches. Storytelling matches however tend to be slower so you can watch the narrative develop without it feeling overwhelming. Wrestling matches come in all paces though. Think of different wrestling styles as different genres. The variety often gets overlooked.
You wanna talk long-running story arcs? 1 word for you bro: Chikara.
This is a wrestling company that takes its inspiration from superhero comics, and as such it's had story arcs and story elements that can be traced back to the very first season of the show! And I'm not just talking feuds or traumatic backstories or character development. I'm talking magical mind-controlling amulets, secret moves that are only taught to the good-guy wrestlers, genetically-enhanced super soldiers, paramilitary mercenary groups, a wrestler who legit murders other wrestlers in the ring, Lovecraftian demonic possession, mad scientists, shadowy megacorporations, a 'this isn't even my final form!' moment in the ring, and probably one of the most ambitious wrestling storylines ever: The company pretended to shut down for an entire year.
And they committed to this big time. In the last show before this they had security members (who were actually the aforementioned mercenary group) storm the show, destroy the ring and kick out the audience. They shut down the website, cancelled all future announced shows, said they were putting equipment up for sale, and the wrestlers all went to other companies, or started their own mini-shows. Then over time all these mini shows were shut down as various evil-wrestlers from Chikara stormed their shows and attacked the wrestlers. Then at a big charity wrestling event, all the evil wrestlers attacked in one huge group, leading to a massive brawl between pretty much the entire roster, which the good guys won with the help of a time-travelling band-geek, leading to them announcing the triumphant return of Chikara. And did it pay off?
Well, the first show they did after this was the largest show they have ever done (a company that usually draws a couple hundred for their audience, drew over a thousand), so I'm gonna say... yeah.
Eddie Kingston as the realest man in pro wrestling being stuck in this universe is the funniest and also the best thing to ever happen.
Also Chikara featured a 'Loser Leaves The Present' match where the loser had to go back through a time portal to their own time between a time traveling Knight and a later version of the same Knight who were feuding over the friendship of a dragon called Dragon Dragon.
Is there a site to stream past Chikara stuff?
@@berserkerciaran They have a paid streaming and on-demand service on their website with all their old episodes right back to their beginning, and they're on IWTV as well.
@Charming Billy Well yeah, they kinda are now that the promption has been exposed and cancelled for being filled with sexual harrassment and predatory behavious behind the scenes, but before that they were just a promotion that played up the fantastical and goofy nature of wrestling and
This video (and your others about wrestling) accomplished exactly what you wanted it to. I always hated wrestling, probably still won't follow it, but you actually made me care about the story lines and gave me a ton of respect for the performers. It's insanely creative and expressive, and I kinda love it.
Wresting still confuses me but the story of Golden Lovers made me tear up.
No joke, Wrestling is the best anime
Talking Vidya with the potential to be a great Boy's love kind of anime
It's also the worst, haha. But it's also the one that airs the most episodes consistently, so we're hooked.
Just watch tiger mask w it's litterally a wrestling anime
Wrestling is both the best and worst form of storytelling, with the fluctuation of quality going from the Golden Lovers to Triple H having sex with a dummy.
don't forget the old woman giving birth to a hand
I wish there were more half-hour long video essays on Pro Wrestling
AnvilPro100 check out channels Real Neat Puro and Showbuckle. They cover New Japan but they’ll scratch the itch
AnvilPro100 wrestling with wregret maybe?
Max Landis has a hilarious one
Watch Wrestling isn't Wrestling on Max Landis' youtube channel. It's amazing
Try Showbuckle!
Your videos on wrestling are soooo good! Thank you for making these!
I just want to say thank you, because if it weren't for this video, I wouldn't had understood how important it was when Kota Ibushi showed up in AEW for Kenny Omega. Having watched this made my current watching better.